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- 0:19Speaker 1: Here's Nick Eatman.
- 0:25Speaker 4: Good morning, Welcome to Cowboys Storyline presented by Gillette. I'm
- 0:28Speaker 4: Nick Eatman. Wednesday, March the fourth. Let's get talking about
- 0:32Speaker 4: some Dallas Cowboys news and notes here as we get
- 0:37Speaker 4: ready for about a week before training, I mean, sorry,
- 0:40Speaker 4: week before the start of free agency. A little bit
- 0:43Speaker 4: flustered this morning, of course, electronics failing me once again.
- 0:46Speaker 4: Maybe I'm failing electronics. Then again, maybe I should get
- 0:50Speaker 4: here a little earlier. Eight eight A eighty five two
- 0:52Speaker 4: two nine seven is the number to call. Let's start
- 0:55Speaker 4: with the phone line. Let's start right off. Randy's first, What.
- 0:58Speaker 5: John, Oh, my brother that I'm friends with your mother?
- 1:02Speaker 1: What's up? Good? What's up?
- 1:06Speaker 5: So let's just say scenario Dallas gives Oakland our number
- 1:11Speaker 5: twenty pick and our second for next year, gets Crowsby
- 1:14Speaker 5: on the front line. We use our money, we go
- 1:17Speaker 5: out and we get the baddest linebackers we can find
- 1:20Speaker 5: on the market. Now, the middle of our line is
- 1:22Speaker 5: speech and we use our number twelve on either of
- 1:25Speaker 5: the best safety or the best corner. Now we've got
- 1:28Speaker 5: our back. We are done all that work that we've
- 1:30Speaker 5: been begging them to do to fix this team up,
- 1:33Speaker 5: and then our starting quarterback goes down. Are we really
- 1:38Speaker 5: comfortable with finally hopefully having Jerry do all this work
- 1:42Speaker 5: that we've been begging him to do and that's our back,
- 1:48Speaker 5: our backup quarterback situation? Or should we maybe start thinking
- 1:52Speaker 5: about upgrading that as well, just to protect all the
- 1:55Speaker 5: other stuff they may do. And of course the news
- 1:59Speaker 5: is Tyler he's out there. We're bringing him back to Chrisco.
- 2:02Speaker 5: But they're not talking too too sweet on him right now.
- 2:06Speaker 6: It's like they're having a hard.
- 2:08Speaker 5: Time picking him a team. And maybe we can get
- 2:11Speaker 5: him on a veteran's minimum one to two year try
- 2:14Speaker 5: out something just or whoever else is out there. But
- 2:18Speaker 5: what are you thinking about that? That's that's a lot
- 2:21Speaker 5: of work that did to the team and then they
- 2:23Speaker 5: just all go to waste if we lose a starting quarterback.
- 2:27Speaker 1: Well, that's that's the thing.
- 2:28Speaker 4: I mean, it depends on how much work you do,
- 2:30Speaker 4: because if you do enough work, like you're talking about
- 2:32Speaker 4: then an injury to your started quarterback doesn't derail the team,
- 2:36Speaker 4: and so that's that's that's what the hope is. I mean,
- 2:39Speaker 4: right in that last year, they didn't have a prayer
- 2:43Speaker 4: if if Dak would have gone down. I don't think.
- 2:46Speaker 4: But that's you want to be more balanced. I'm not
- 2:48Speaker 4: saying that it'll be exactly like it was three or
- 2:51Speaker 4: four years ago. But when Dak got hurt for four
- 2:53Speaker 4: games and Cooper Rush had to play, they didn't lose
- 2:56Speaker 4: a game until I think maybe the fifth game against
- 2:59Speaker 4: Philly and so. But but Cooper Russian and he and
- 3:03Speaker 4: he wasn't the guy that that was really leading the charge.
- 3:06Speaker 4: It was just making smart decisions and letting the defense
- 3:10Speaker 4: kind of take over. So I don't think we're at
- 3:12Speaker 4: that point where you know the defense is gonna be
- 3:14Speaker 4: good enough to take over. But I think the point
- 3:16Speaker 4: I'm trying to make is don't be so you know, uh,
- 3:20Speaker 4: top heavy here at quarterback, or just be a little
- 3:22Speaker 4: bit more balanced where you can kind of handle that.
- 3:25Speaker 4: But I hear what you're saying. I mean, the question
- 3:28Speaker 4: is is Joe Milton ready to be that guy for
- 3:31Speaker 4: three or four games? And I don't know that, I
- 3:34Speaker 4: really I don't. I think he got a chance to
- 3:36Speaker 4: play some last year. He played some in the preseason,
- 3:39Speaker 4: But I I think there are better options. Obviously, How
- 3:44Speaker 4: how expensive are those options? You know, we'll we'll see,
- 3:47Speaker 4: but there's no doubt there's there's other options there. But
- 3:52Speaker 4: I think I think you're you make some some good points. Now,
- 3:54Speaker 4: all the all the scenarios you're talking about, Uh, you know,
- 3:57Speaker 4: they they they moved to Vegas and case you didn't
- 4:00Speaker 4: know that, Randy, they did move to Vegas. But then again,
- 4:04Speaker 4: I don't blame anyone for that. Where the Raiders? Where
- 4:06Speaker 4: are the Chargers? You know they're they're over there somewhere,
- 4:09Speaker 4: all right. Next, uh caller is Dylan in Northport, Florida. Dylan,
- 4:14Speaker 4: what's that man?
- 4:15Speaker 7: Hey, how are you good?
- 4:16Speaker 1: You?
- 4:18Speaker 7: I'm good man, I'm good. I got a little Would
- 4:20Speaker 7: you rather this morning?
- 4:23Speaker 8: Two of them for you? This?
- 4:23Speaker 7: So the first one, yeah, of course it's clean man.
- 4:27Speaker 9: This is PG.
- 4:28Speaker 10: Okay, this is g or PG.
- 4:30Speaker 7: Right. The first one is the kicker. Would you rather
- 4:38Speaker 7: pay him a four year deal worth eight million per
- 4:42Speaker 7: year roughly? Or or three three or I know you know,
- 4:47Speaker 7: and I want to talk about that too in the
- 4:49Speaker 7: second year a year or from last week that you had.
- 4:52Speaker 7: But the other option is the the tags. You can
- 4:55Speaker 7: tender him for about six mil this year, tagging for
- 4:57Speaker 7: about seven mil next year, and then eight and a
- 5:00Speaker 7: half the next year, So you get basically three years
- 5:02Speaker 7: of control over him without a long term deal. What
- 5:07Speaker 7: do you like the tag and then maybe get rid
- 5:10Speaker 7: of him or something.
- 5:11Speaker 8: No.
- 5:11Speaker 4: No, I like again, I'm not I've never been in
- 5:15Speaker 4: those negotiations, so I don't really know how that works.
- 5:18Speaker 4: But I think the tag is helping the Cowboys to
- 5:23Speaker 4: like to kind of like tell you know, Aubrey's camp
- 5:27Speaker 4: or whatever. All right, guys, let's let's let's calm down
- 5:31Speaker 4: a little bit on if it's ten million or nine
- 5:36Speaker 4: let's let's calm down.
- 5:37Speaker 1: I mean, because this is what we can do.
- 5:39Speaker 4: We can put it here at five and a half
- 5:42Speaker 4: or sit, you know, and and the restricted second round
- 5:45Speaker 4: tenders five and a half what five point six, and
- 5:48Speaker 4: so we can just play this And then now you've
- 5:50Speaker 4: got to go out there and play one of the
- 5:52Speaker 4: most mentally demanding positions there is and play with that
- 5:58Speaker 4: with every extra point, every kick is going to be
- 6:01Speaker 4: calculated that way, and it's probably gonna.
- 6:03Speaker 1: Be that way anyways.
- 6:04Speaker 4: Or you can say to use that tag in next
- 6:07Speaker 4: year's for franchise tag to say you want to come
- 6:10Speaker 4: down off of that a little bit, Well, we'll meet
- 6:12Speaker 4: you at maybe six and a half or seven, but
- 6:14Speaker 4: we're not going to play this game because this is
- 6:15Speaker 4: what we have in our back pocket. And I think
- 6:17Speaker 4: that could probably help. That's the way I would at
- 6:20Speaker 4: least approach it.
- 6:20Speaker 7: What about you, Well, yeah, so if he was just
- 6:25Speaker 7: a straight up unrestricted free agent, right and there was
- 6:27Speaker 7: no tags available to do anything with, I think there
- 6:30Speaker 7: is a team that would pay ten million a year
- 6:31Speaker 7: to Brandon Aubrey, and I think it's I think you
- 6:34Speaker 7: could justify it for I got a whole list of
- 6:35Speaker 7: reasons here. I've been working on it for a couple
- 6:37Speaker 7: of weeks, but I won't go through.
- 6:39Speaker 2: All the reasons.
- 6:39Speaker 7: We all know, we know all the reasons why he's
- 6:41Speaker 7: still good.
- 6:41Speaker 1: Top. I mean, what's the.
- 6:43Speaker 7: Well, I mean, these are just these are some stats
- 6:45Speaker 7: I have, right, just yeah, I mean yeah, so so
- 6:48Speaker 7: one of them, there was twelve field goals from last
- 6:50Speaker 7: year from sixty plus yards. A quarter of them came
- 6:52Speaker 7: from Brandon Aubrey, cam Little may two of them. Other
- 6:54Speaker 7: than that, nobody had kicked more than two since Aubrey's
- 6:56Speaker 7: been in the NFL. Twenty one kick from sixty plus
- 6:59Speaker 7: yards with me, I'll be a six of them. No
- 7:01Speaker 7: other kicker has more than two. You know, against the Lions,
- 7:05Speaker 7: is the first picker ever to hit fifty five plus
- 7:07Speaker 7: yard field goals three times in one game. He got
- 7:10Speaker 7: the highest the second highest make rate in the NFL
- 7:13Speaker 7: less than fifty five yards in NFL history.
- 7:15Speaker 11: So like he's a.
- 7:16Speaker 7: Weapon, and you know, last week you said that, and
- 7:18Speaker 7: I disagree with you, and we agree, we see it
- 7:20Speaker 7: on a lot of things. But I did disagree with
- 7:21Speaker 7: you last week that he makes your offense worse sometimes
- 7:25Speaker 7: because they get stagnant. And it's not that it's not true,
- 7:28Speaker 7: but I'm not gonna sacrifice my weapon, my kicker because
- 7:31Speaker 7: of that reason. In particular, if anything, it would be
- 7:33Speaker 7: maybe a money thing, But I'm not going to be like, Okay,
- 7:37Speaker 7: play caller Schottenheimer and and quarterback Dack. You guys got
- 7:40Speaker 7: a straighten up. I'm not going to sacrific I'm not
- 7:42Speaker 7: going to cut off my nose to hopefully make my
- 7:44Speaker 7: elbow work better, you know what I mean, Like.
- 7:46Speaker 4: I'm gonna have to cut you off there, I don't.
- 7:48Speaker 4: I don't think I say makes the offense worse. I
- 7:51Speaker 4: think that that. I do believe the play calling sometimes
- 7:54Speaker 4: leans on him when it probably shouldn't. I don't know
- 7:59Speaker 4: if it makes the offense worse. I mean they score
- 8:02Speaker 4: points in in scenarios when most teams are punting, So
- 8:07Speaker 4: I don't know if it.
- 8:08Speaker 1: Makes it worse.
- 8:09Speaker 7: Something about they get to midfield and they slow down,
- 8:12Speaker 7: which is it's not that it's not true. I mean,
- 8:14Speaker 7: we saw it happen. It is true. But if I'm
- 8:17Speaker 7: the GM and I have an issue with that, or
- 8:19Speaker 7: you know, the coach or whatever, it might be, like
- 8:21Speaker 7: I've got to look at myself and say, we've got
- 8:23Speaker 7: to do some work better offensively. And it's not necessarily
- 8:26Speaker 7: the special team's fault that the offense slows down around
- 8:29Speaker 7: midfield because they're leaning on the kicker so much. Let's
- 8:31Speaker 7: maybe not to do that while knowing, you know, it's
- 8:34Speaker 7: in our back pocket if we need it.
- 8:37Speaker 8: So.
- 8:37Speaker 7: But I think there is a team that would overpay.
- 8:39Speaker 7: I think ten million is an overpay. But I think
- 8:41Speaker 7: there is a team out there that would overpay that,
- 8:43Speaker 7: knowing the weapon that he is. But if you take
- 8:45Speaker 7: Bucker's deal, add the twenty percent for the inflation rate,
- 8:48Speaker 7: add five percent. Because he is better than any other
- 8:50Speaker 7: kicker in the NFL, that's where you get, you know,
- 8:52Speaker 7: the eight mil per year, which I think that rate
- 8:54Speaker 7: is much more justifiable than anything else.
- 8:57Speaker 6: But I'm with you.
- 8:57Speaker 7: I'm doing the tender this year, and you can just
- 8:59Speaker 7: plan that she want to take a team from the
- 9:01Speaker 7: deal because I've got you, you know, I've got the control.
- 9:03Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, and like you said, somebody could pay
- 9:06Speaker 4: ten don't give him the chance.
- 9:07Speaker 1: I mean, that's the thing.
- 9:08Speaker 4: The Cowboys really don't have to allow that opportunity.
- 9:12Speaker 1: To happen now. And I don't.
- 9:14Speaker 4: I don't like to, like, you know, pick holes into
- 9:18Speaker 4: Aubrey's game. He's been He's been absolutely amazing. What I
- 9:23Speaker 4: wonder and I don't know the stat on this, I
- 9:26Speaker 4: just wonder about kickers kicking mostly outdoors versus kickers kick
- 9:32Speaker 4: kicking predominantly indoors. You know, is there a big difference there?
- 9:36Speaker 4: Because I mean, what Butcker's doing in Kansas City, and
- 9:38Speaker 4: that's not always the easiest place to kick relative to
- 9:41Speaker 4: what Aubrey's been able to do and kick some games,
- 9:44Speaker 4: you know, kick a lot of games indoors.
- 9:46Speaker 1: I just wonder about that.
- 9:48Speaker 7: But if there's another kicker that could come in for
- 9:50Speaker 7: a lessons that similar to Aubrey and not obviously it's good,
- 9:53Speaker 7: but maybe close enough type than.
- 9:56Speaker 1: He's got issues in Washington, there's no doubt about that.
- 9:59Speaker 7: I think a lot of people do.
- 10:00Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's again I'm kind of saying all this
- 10:03Speaker 4: like I'm not. I don't have all the research of
- 10:05Speaker 4: the kickers and whoever's paying them, you know, should should
- 10:09Speaker 4: have that. You know, does everyone struggle up there at
- 10:12Speaker 4: FedEx Field and what is his you know, he's not
- 10:15Speaker 4: missing a lot of kicks, let's be honest about that.
- 10:17Speaker 4: Then they play in Philly, they play the Giants, they
- 10:20Speaker 4: play Washington. They you know, he's not missing all the
- 10:23Speaker 4: time outdoors. It's not just an This isn't Amari Cooper
- 10:26Speaker 4: road versus home type of thing.
- 10:28Speaker 7: I mean, the only only two kickers made every field
- 10:31Speaker 7: goal less than fifty yards, Aubrey was one of them.
- 10:33Speaker 7: And the only misses he had less than fifty seven
- 10:35Speaker 7: were from fifty two. And that's across all the stadiums,
- 10:38Speaker 7: obviously half of them are played indoors, at least at
- 10:40Speaker 7: a Cowboys State Eritt Stadium.
- 10:42Speaker 4: But he's awesome, There's no doubt about it. I'm not
- 10:44Speaker 4: saying the otherwise. The Cowboys hold the cards there, and
- 10:48Speaker 4: I think those cards that they have could probably say,
- 10:51Speaker 4: you know, do you really want to do this and
- 10:53Speaker 4: play this one year tender and this next year tender?
- 10:55Speaker 4: Or will this come to our level here and let's
- 10:57Speaker 4: be in the sixth you know, six point seven, six
- 11:00Speaker 4: point eight type range? Maybe seven. I think they you
- 11:03Speaker 4: could probably go to seven and then just call it today.
- 11:06Speaker 10: You think, okay, can.
- 11:07Speaker 7: I hit you with one more really fast before I
- 11:09Speaker 7: get off?
- 11:09Speaker 12: Okay?
- 11:10Speaker 7: I don't know if we can we say names yet
- 11:12Speaker 7: or no? For free agents that are projected to be free.
- 11:15Speaker 1: Agents, you say what you want this? Yeh?
- 11:19Speaker 8: Alright?
- 11:20Speaker 1: What's on you?
- 11:22Speaker 7: The guy out in Cincinnati? So Trey Hendrickson going to
- 11:24Speaker 7: be a free agent, okay? And we hear, we hear
- 11:26Speaker 7: the talk about Max Crosby right in the trade in
- 11:28Speaker 7: the Capital. You're going to give up with him. I
- 11:29Speaker 7: don't think it's gonna be twenty. It's gonna be a
- 11:31Speaker 7: twelve and probably something else right for Max. So Max
- 11:35Speaker 7: also comes with a huge price tag, right, So Hendrickson's
- 11:37Speaker 7: projected to be about thirty percent less expensive than t
- 11:41Speaker 7: been Max Crosby, and you get to keep all of
- 11:43Speaker 7: your your draft capital. So for me, and I want
- 11:46Speaker 7: to get your thoughts. Would you rather have a guy
- 11:48Speaker 7: like Max Crosby and lose your twelve pick and lose
- 11:53Speaker 7: the ability to go hunt other players in free agency
- 11:55Speaker 7: as effectively as you could versus a Trey hendricks Cent
- 12:00Speaker 7: plus maybe the top linebacker Devin Lloyd and the pre
- 12:03Speaker 7: agency period plus pick twelve plus pick twenty, what would
- 12:07Speaker 7: you rather go with?
- 12:10Speaker 1: I like, I want to keep twelve.
- 12:13Speaker 4: I'd like to keep twelve regardless, And then with Crosby,
- 12:17Speaker 4: I would probably, you know, I mean I'm saying it whatever,
- 12:19Speaker 4: I mean, it's out there. I mean, everyone knows, you know,
- 12:22Speaker 4: if this is going to happen, I would say twenty
- 12:25Speaker 4: would probably you know, I'd go to twenty. And if
- 12:28Speaker 4: you if that's not rich enough, then yeah, then I
- 12:31Speaker 4: would probably look at other options. But I think keeping twelve.
- 12:34Speaker 4: If I'm answering your question, I'm thinking keeping twelve is
- 12:38Speaker 4: the top of the priority.
- 12:40Speaker 1: But I wouldn't.
- 12:41Speaker 4: I wouldn't hate your your scenario either, you know, keeping
- 12:44Speaker 4: your picks and going with you know, you're not getting
- 12:46Speaker 4: this dynamic of a player a little bit older but
- 12:49Speaker 4: also very very productive too.
- 12:52Speaker 7: Do you think that trading for in Max Crosby, with
- 12:55Speaker 7: his contract the way it is, you owe him thirty
- 12:57Speaker 7: You hit for your cat for thirty five million right now.
- 13:00Speaker 7: You might be able to do something with it when
- 13:01Speaker 7: he gets here, But it's a thirty five million dollars
- 13:03Speaker 7: cap charge. Do you think that restricts you from going
- 13:05Speaker 7: a hunting down linebackers and safeties and corners and free
- 13:08Speaker 7: agency at that point.
- 13:09Speaker 4: Possibly also depending on what happens with Pickens if he
- 13:12Speaker 4: stays at.
- 13:12Speaker 1: That number too, you know, because I mean you can get.
- 13:15Speaker 4: You can get that number down if you can, if
- 13:17Speaker 4: you could really make that work. So a lot of
- 13:19Speaker 4: a lot of balls in the air there.
- 13:22Speaker 1: But I I have.
- 13:24Speaker 4: This feeling that we're we're not barking up the wrong
- 13:28Speaker 4: tree here. I don't I think, you know, I think
- 13:32Speaker 4: things are happening. I think they're going to happen, And
- 13:34Speaker 4: I don't think the Cowboys are gonna sit back and
- 13:36Speaker 4: not you know, not do anything. I think they're gonna
- 13:39Speaker 4: they're gonna do some some big time stuff. I really
- 13:42Speaker 4: believe that.
- 13:43Speaker 8: Fine.
- 13:44Speaker 7: Cool, Well, thanks man, I appreciate it.
- 13:45Speaker 1: Appreciate it.
- 13:46Speaker 4: Good stuff with you, all right, Brian in Kansas City,
- 13:52Speaker 4: what's up?
- 13:54Speaker 13: Good morning, sir?
- 13:55Speaker 1: How are you?
- 13:57Speaker 13: And you know, at a at the hell of a scenario,
- 14:00Speaker 13: you know that doing throughout there?
- 14:01Speaker 8: I don't know.
- 14:02Speaker 13: I'd have to think that one through. I don't think
- 14:04Speaker 13: I'm ready to avoide an opinion on that one yet.
- 14:06Speaker 13: It's two good players, but one significantly better than the other.
- 14:12Speaker 13: And and like you said, younger, right, so you know,
- 14:16Speaker 13: watching the combine, I'm just amazed at whatever they're putting
- 14:22Speaker 13: in the water. And Akron, what's going on up there
- 14:27Speaker 13: in Ohio that there's a linebacker that six what is
- 14:30Speaker 13: he sixty five to forty five and he ran the
- 14:34Speaker 13: time of a corner at four four six? I mean,
- 14:39Speaker 13: you know so, but just based on what we saw
- 14:42Speaker 13: in the combine, it sounds like like Styles and Reese
- 14:46Speaker 13: are not They're gonna they're gonna go top eleven, you know.
- 14:50Speaker 13: And the big surprise coming out is that Downs may
- 14:53Speaker 13: not because now there's some health issues and Apparently Jerry
- 14:59Speaker 13: said something I'm the bus about he doesn't want anybody
- 15:02Speaker 13: that can't contribute this year, And he wasn't talking about
- 15:05Speaker 13: a specific player. He was just asked the question about
- 15:09Speaker 13: what about you know, guys that we've taken chances on
- 15:12Speaker 13: the past. I guess the way it was asked. So
- 15:16Speaker 13: based on everything we learned in the.
- 15:19Speaker 8: Combine the good, the bad, you know, the people that tested,
- 15:22Speaker 8: the people that didn't test.
- 15:23Speaker 13: And why so Downs was a big one to come out.
- 15:27Speaker 13: Why as he's got I guess a degenerative tendon or
- 15:32Speaker 13: something like that, And it's one of those things that
- 15:35Speaker 13: some players play through and some don't. Some just don't laugh.
- 15:39Speaker 13: All the things that we learned up there, did it
- 15:43Speaker 13: impact what you're hoping for or what you view as
- 15:47Speaker 13: who's going to be there at twelve and what you're
- 15:50Speaker 13: hoping for being that top pick? So, in my opinion,
- 15:53Speaker 13: it sounds like we wouldn't take Downs or McCoy due
- 15:58Speaker 13: to injury concerns. Styles and rees are not going to
- 16:01Speaker 13: be there, is what everybody's saying. You know, what do
- 16:05Speaker 13: you think? How do you think that shapes that out?
- 16:07Speaker 13: And I'll hang up and.
- 16:08Speaker 1: Look the man good to talk about right, appreciate it,
- 16:11Speaker 1: you know.
- 16:12Speaker 4: Again, I this is this is part of that process
- 16:16Speaker 4: where you know, the things come out from the from
- 16:19Speaker 4: the combine. Uh, That's why you have different you know,
- 16:23Speaker 4: That's why that everyone's medical team goes up there so
- 16:26Speaker 4: they can kind of evaluate everyone themselves. Then they come back,
- 16:30Speaker 4: they go to their own pro day, they'll have their
- 16:33Speaker 4: own workouts, visits. A lot of things will kind of
- 16:36Speaker 4: materialize between now and then. Some not so, you know,
- 16:40Speaker 4: not so serious, some of.
- 16:41Speaker 1: Them will be.
- 16:44Speaker 4: I kind of I kind of wonder if if some
- 16:47Speaker 4: of the things that we see and hear aren't aren't
- 16:51Speaker 4: kind of overblown maybe a little bit. There might be
- 16:54Speaker 4: a team sitting at twelve or fifteen or twenty that
- 16:57Speaker 4: were like, oh, here but his knee, you know. And
- 17:00Speaker 4: again I'm not saying that that that's happening, but I'm
- 17:02Speaker 4: sure it has happened. And so again, not too serious
- 17:07Speaker 4: about all that stuff. I do like what Jerry said
- 17:09Speaker 4: about I like the fact that he's like, we're not
- 17:14Speaker 4: going to red shirt our second round pick. They don't
- 17:16Speaker 4: have a second round, they might end up with one,
- 17:18Speaker 4: but we're not red shirting these these players that they
- 17:21Speaker 4: need to play, and you know, it sounded like he
- 17:25Speaker 4: was maybe a little disappointed with the Rebels stuff. I'm
- 17:27Speaker 4: not disappointed by that it was a third round pick.
- 17:30Speaker 4: If he plays this year and he's starting for you,
- 17:33Speaker 4: I think that would be a really really good, good
- 17:36Speaker 4: pick in a good situation, second round and maybe a
- 17:39Speaker 4: little too high for those risky situations that they've done
- 17:42Speaker 4: so many times when you get after that third, fourth round.
- 17:45Speaker 4: I don't have a real big problem with them. All right,
- 17:48Speaker 4: Josh in Chicago is next, Nick?
- 17:52Speaker 1: I'm good. How are you good?
- 17:54Speaker 11: So with free agency looming, there's a couple of things
- 17:57Speaker 11: I want to bring up. The first thing is I
- 17:59Speaker 11: think people like fans need to remember that this is
- 18:01Speaker 11: a two way street. So we can make plays for
- 18:04Speaker 11: players out there and they just it might not work out.
- 18:07Speaker 11: So we can't just like pay everyone and expect them
- 18:09Speaker 11: to be here because there's other teams and other things
- 18:11Speaker 11: that are being done. I know we tend to get
- 18:14Speaker 11: lost in that sometimes, so I just want to remind
- 18:16Speaker 11: people like, this is a two way street and a
- 18:17Speaker 11: two way negotiation.
- 18:19Speaker 14: Right.
- 18:19Speaker 11: The other thing, I know, we keep signing sign sign Jeep,
- 18:22Speaker 11: sign GP, but it's gonna cost a lot of money,
- 18:25Speaker 11: and I do think like in the past, we've looked
- 18:27Speaker 11: at it and been like, well, we didn't really go
- 18:28Speaker 11: sign any big whales or do any big things in
- 18:30Speaker 11: free agency, like we signed g like GP to a
- 18:33Speaker 11: long term deal. You know, he was a top one
- 18:35Speaker 11: hundred player entering free agency before the franchise tag, So
- 18:39Speaker 11: don't forget, like like people don't forget that he's right, Yeah,
- 18:44Speaker 11: I think he was the top I don't see him
- 18:46Speaker 11: on the list anymore because I think not franchise.
- 18:48Speaker 4: Tag, yeah, not just just you know, the top one
- 18:53Speaker 4: hundred and the top player.
- 18:55Speaker 10: Yeah.
- 18:55Speaker 11: I saw a couple of lists where he was like
- 18:57Speaker 11: number one or like always the top five, right, top three.
- 19:00Speaker 12: I think.
- 19:00Speaker 11: I think what's the lowest I saw was the list
- 19:02Speaker 11: I had them at like the number three guys. So
- 19:04Speaker 11: that's a big deal. And I just wanted to kind
- 19:07Speaker 11: of talk with you a little bit. I know you've
- 19:08Speaker 11: talked in the past about like inflation and like how
- 19:11Speaker 11: free agency inflates everything, especially when the cap goes up.
- 19:14Speaker 11: But isn't that just kind of the nature of the game,
- 19:17Speaker 11: Like I know, we're gonna pay a little bit more
- 19:19Speaker 11: for somebody than a couple of years ago. But with
- 19:21Speaker 11: the cap going up, that's kind of just how all
- 19:23Speaker 11: inflation works. I guess I'm not an economist.
- 19:26Speaker 15: But I'm not either.
- 19:28Speaker 4: Yeah, but I always think it's funny when people say, oh,
- 19:31Speaker 4: the cap went up, you know, that's good for teams,
- 19:33Speaker 4: you know, like like the Cowboys or any anybody that
- 19:36Speaker 4: that's like right there at the at the line.
- 19:38Speaker 1: It's like, well, it's it's good for everybody, you know
- 19:42Speaker 1: what I mean.
- 19:42Speaker 4: It's I don't think I don't think the cap going
- 19:44Speaker 4: up really helps one team or another, because it just
- 19:47Speaker 4: gives the team that does have much money even more
- 19:50Speaker 4: and it makes the market even even higher for them.
- 19:53Speaker 4: You know, I think it's funny. I sat here a
- 19:54Speaker 4: few years ago and saw some of these players the
- 19:57Speaker 4: Cowboys were losing in free agency, and could they have
- 20:00Speaker 4: paid him or him? And some of those guys are
- 20:02Speaker 4: getting cut now.
- 20:03Speaker 8: You know.
- 20:04Speaker 4: I mean, so that's one thing to remember, is is
- 20:07Speaker 4: the Cowboys, And you know it's it's buyer beware all
- 20:11Speaker 4: the time with free agency. There's something there's not wrong,
- 20:16Speaker 4: but there there's there's a reason why you wouldn't give
- 20:19Speaker 4: this guy so much money. Anyone George pickints included. There's
- 20:22Speaker 4: a reason.
- 20:22Speaker 1: Why you wouldn't.
- 20:24Speaker 4: You're you're a little you're a little scared about it,
- 20:26Speaker 4: but he's just too dynamic. The Cowboys are going to
- 20:29Speaker 4: try to make it work, obviously and resign him. But anybody, yeah,
- 20:33Speaker 4: the the Hendrick Center, whoever's out there, those guys, there's
- 20:38Speaker 4: a reason why. There's a reason why these guys aren't
- 20:42Speaker 4: getting signed by their own team. And and you have
- 20:44Speaker 4: to factor all that in. It's got to be a
- 20:45Speaker 4: good fit for what the Cowboys are doing or any
- 20:47Speaker 4: anybody's trying to do. So you're you're right about everything
- 20:50Speaker 4: that that you're saying there.
- 20:52Speaker 11: I also think, you know, we talked about extending contracts
- 20:55Speaker 11: and extending money. I was looking at the stuff on
- 20:57Speaker 11: the cap, I think yesterday or the day before or
- 21:00Speaker 11: and I think we're still like they're still like sixteen
- 21:03Speaker 11: or seventeen million or something like that for Zach Martin
- 21:05Speaker 11: and dead money. So don't forget too when we have
- 21:07Speaker 11: these void years and we push money down the road.
- 21:09Speaker 11: It's good, and I agree with doing this, especially like
- 21:11Speaker 11: with Back or CD, but sometimes letting Terrence Steel play
- 21:15Speaker 11: out helps us long term too, because we don't have
- 21:17Speaker 11: any dead money next year or something like that, when
- 21:19Speaker 11: he's not even.
- 21:20Speaker 4: Here playing at all, and you kind of answered your
- 21:23Speaker 4: own comment or your you know, your own comment. There
- 21:26Speaker 4: is look what they just did, Like like when I say,
- 21:29Speaker 4: just get like what an hour ago ago, thirty minutes ago.
- 21:32Speaker 4: I mean the Cowboys, this is woods, they morning. They
- 21:35Speaker 4: they extended the deals. They're you know, restructured contracts to
- 21:41Speaker 4: Dak and Tyler Smith CD I think is going to happen. Yeah,
- 21:46Speaker 4: and Terrence Steel wasn't on that list, you know, so
- 21:49Speaker 4: you're right. I mean, there's some contracts that you're like,
- 21:52Speaker 4: let's let's play this out. Some of these guys are
- 21:55Speaker 4: getting cut. Some of these guys, like you said, are
- 21:57Speaker 4: just getting you know, you're just playing it out because
- 22:00Speaker 4: you could, Yeah, you could save money by Terrence Steel.
- 22:02Speaker 4: But then what then who are you sign who are
- 22:04Speaker 4: you playing? Who's going to be better than Terrence Steel?
- 22:07Speaker 4: And you can laugh at that if you want to,
- 22:09Speaker 4: but just be careful what you wish for when you
- 22:11Speaker 4: try to put in their right tackle. I'm not saying you, Josh,
- 22:14Speaker 4: I'm just saying.
- 22:14Speaker 11: Yeah, no, I know, well, I've been critical of Terence
- 22:16Speaker 11: Steel in the past. And Guyton, And I'll stand by
- 22:19Speaker 11: Steel is not the best pass blocker, right, like, he
- 22:21Speaker 11: just isn't. He's a He's a darn good run blocker.
- 22:26Speaker 11: He's very good at that, and he grades out very
- 22:28Speaker 11: well at that. And I think even if you if
- 22:31Speaker 11: they cut him, yeah, you're saving some money because you're
- 22:33Speaker 11: not paying him the full contract. But I do think
- 22:35Speaker 11: in twenty seventeen there's still be some dead money sitting
- 22:38Speaker 11: around for him, right, So like, what are you really
- 22:41Speaker 11: what are you really saving?
- 22:42Speaker 12: You know?
- 22:43Speaker 11: Yeah, it just depends, right, So it's complicated issues contract talk,
- 22:48Speaker 11: right and signing free agents. But I mean I'm really
- 22:50Speaker 11: hoping that we get at least, you know, three defensive
- 22:53Speaker 11: leoship free agents. But you know, I also have the
- 22:56Speaker 11: realistic approach that they may not want to play here.
- 22:59Speaker 11: They may not want to play a Christian Parker, they
- 23:01Speaker 11: may not want to play under Jerry Jones, right like
- 23:03Speaker 11: that that's a reality too.
- 23:04Speaker 4: So it's a reality I mean for some you know,
- 23:07Speaker 4: I mean some people, some people, do you know what,
- 23:10Speaker 4: would want to play here? I mean it sounds like
- 23:11Speaker 4: thanks for the call, Josh, good stuff as always. I mean,
- 23:14Speaker 4: you know, from what we're seeing out of hearing about
- 23:18Speaker 4: Christian Parker is that these guys love him. I mean
- 23:20Speaker 4: they love to play for him, and so, you know,
- 23:24Speaker 4: I it usually usually comes down to the money, though,
- 23:30Speaker 4: you know. I mean it's it's not just well, I'm
- 23:33Speaker 4: going to go and play for the Dallas Cowboys because
- 23:35Speaker 4: my family loved the Cowboys or my dad was a
- 23:37Speaker 4: big fan.
- 23:39Speaker 1: You hear some of that.
- 23:40Speaker 4: It happens, but the money's got to be right too,
- 23:44Speaker 4: uh And and that's that's usually what you know. If
- 23:47Speaker 4: you're not in the in the same ballpark, then then
- 23:50Speaker 4: it really doesn't matter. For the Cowboys are gonna have
- 23:52Speaker 4: to be at that point. And if they are, you know,
- 23:54Speaker 4: then I then I like you my chances. If I'm
- 23:57Speaker 4: the Cowboys, I like Jerry's chances of selling the player.
- 23:59Speaker 4: It's got to be, like I said, the contracts got
- 24:01Speaker 4: to be there. But I like Gary's chances of selling.
- 24:04Speaker 4: I like Christian Parker's chance. Brian shottheimer. You know, playing
- 24:09Speaker 4: on it on a defense with with an offense, it's
- 24:11Speaker 4: gonna score a lot of points. I mean, I've thought
- 24:12Speaker 4: about that this morning. I mean, like there were games
- 24:15Speaker 4: where you know, the Cowboys were you can tell we're
- 24:19Speaker 4: gonna get gonna get beat here. They just can't keep
- 24:21Speaker 4: up because their defense just couldn't stop them. Detroit, Denver, Chicago.
- 24:26Speaker 4: You know, those weren't blowouts really, but they were definitely
- 24:30Speaker 4: one sided. But I might be missing some games too,
- 24:33Speaker 4: but it's just like the offense is always gonna kind
- 24:35Speaker 4: of keep you in these games and sometimes win them.
- 24:38Speaker 4: So I think that would be kind of exciting for
- 24:41Speaker 4: the defense. I've got to go, you know what, bars Low,
- 24:44Speaker 4: Let's go in here and you know, let's get better.
- 24:47Speaker 4: Let's get off the let's get out of the thirties
- 24:49Speaker 4: in the ranking, you know, try to get middle of
- 24:52Speaker 4: the pack, if not better, and then let the offense
- 24:54Speaker 4: kind of do what it what it's gonna do.
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- 26:48Speaker 4: Let's go to Michael and Bowling Green. He's been holding
- 26:51Speaker 4: a little bit, Michael.
- 26:52Speaker 10: Top's go along, Matt, how are you doing pretty good?
- 26:57Speaker 10: I get a couple things real quick. I asked about
- 27:01Speaker 10: and uh, what you think I've heard after the combine down.
- 27:07Speaker 10: He's got some some physical problems that could keep him out,
- 27:12Speaker 10: depending on the severity, anywhere from two to twelve months.
- 27:18Speaker 10: And he's also got a degenerative ACL. If all that's
- 27:23Speaker 10: true and he drops up, would you take me knowing.
- 27:26Speaker 4: That, Uh, that's not my That wouldn't be my call.
- 27:34Speaker 4: I mean, obviously that would be what I mean. You
- 27:37Speaker 4: have to listen to what your head trainer of Jim
- 27:40Speaker 4: Mauer and his evaluation of the guy. You would have
- 27:44Speaker 4: to just listen to it and and see what what
- 27:46Speaker 4: he thinks. I mean, again, I can't sit here and say, well,
- 27:48Speaker 4: I mean, how bad is it. I mean, there's been
- 27:51Speaker 4: stories on these guys, some of them. I mean, what's
- 27:54Speaker 4: been twenty something years. I remember the same thing was
- 27:57Speaker 4: said about a guy named Steven Jackson running back, and
- 27:59Speaker 4: he was pretty good for a long time. So you know,
- 28:04Speaker 4: and I'm sure there are stories of guys that that, hey,
- 28:07Speaker 4: be careful, he's got a knee issue, and you know,
- 28:10Speaker 4: two or three years later he's out of the league,
- 28:12Speaker 4: and so that they were right. I don't have the
- 28:14Speaker 4: studies on all that he's he's gonna fall. I wouldn't
- 28:21Speaker 4: be surprised if this is maybe blown out of proportion
- 28:24Speaker 4: a little bit, But again, I don't know all that.
- 28:27Speaker 4: If they feel come, i'd say, this is he gonna
- 28:32Speaker 4: be able to play for you for three or four
- 28:34Speaker 4: five seasons? If so, then I'm I probably would do it.
- 28:38Speaker 10: Probably draft them also, her Tall, trading down to sixteen,
- 28:47Speaker 10: picking up either a third rounder or picking up a
- 28:51Speaker 10: four and of seven, drafting theism and then maybe a
- 28:55Speaker 10: twenty a h usher.
- 29:04Speaker 1: I'm I'm fine with trading down.
- 29:06Speaker 4: And if you're in a scenario of you know, the
- 29:10Speaker 4: top guys that you really want are kind of wiped out,
- 29:14Speaker 4: and now you're looking at all, right, we could take
- 29:17Speaker 4: these guys. Now, these four guys up here are all
- 29:20Speaker 4: sort of in the same boat. We like them about
- 29:22Speaker 4: the same. So then so then I'm okay, you know,
- 29:26Speaker 4: moving to sixteen or so, like you said, and getting
- 29:29Speaker 4: one of those guys still and then picking up another
- 29:32Speaker 4: pick in that scenario, but not of well, you know,
- 29:37Speaker 4: there's one guy we really like and and hope he falls,
- 29:42Speaker 4: but let's also pick.
- 29:42Speaker 1: Up a third.
- 29:43Speaker 4: Now that it wouldn't work that way, So it would
- 29:46Speaker 4: have to just see how the how the board falls.
- 29:48Speaker 4: There's gonna be a few guys that they hope really
- 29:51Speaker 4: fall right to them, and if that happens, then that's
- 29:53Speaker 4: why you stay, you know, you stand past.
- 29:56Speaker 1: So one more.
- 29:58Speaker 10: Yeah, I was talking to Brian in Kansas City last night.
- 30:03Speaker 10: I was out of town driving back to work.
- 30:05Speaker 6: Left.
- 30:06Speaker 10: We ended up talking for a little while. We were
- 30:09Speaker 10: talking about Cowboys quarterbacks and I told him, I said,
- 30:13Speaker 10: I'll never forget this. I was like Troy eight when
- 30:16Speaker 10: near the end of his career through was it was
- 30:20Speaker 10: near the end of the game they were losing and
- 30:24Speaker 10: he's running around a little bit and all of a sudden,
- 30:26Speaker 10: the announcer goes on a Rockets wide open and Troy
- 30:31Speaker 10: just launched it, and I called the instride scored a touchdown.
- 30:38Speaker 10: And Brian said, that was your first game.
- 30:42Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, Washington, Yes, yeah, yeah.
- 30:48Speaker 10: That play because he made it look so easy.
- 30:50Speaker 4: Yeah, well, MTT made the play. I mean, if you
- 30:54Speaker 4: really want to be candid about it, it was third
- 30:57Speaker 4: and two or something like that around the twenty five
- 31:00Speaker 4: yard line and over time, and and you know, it
- 31:05Speaker 4: was a play action and the defense sucked, you know,
- 31:07Speaker 4: it goes sucked into it, and it said all right,
- 31:10Speaker 4: well it's gonna be em it for you know, like
- 31:12Speaker 4: it always is.
- 31:13Speaker 1: And it was a.
- 31:14Speaker 4: Play action and and and they had thrown that pass
- 31:17Speaker 4: earlier in the game and Rocket it was Rocket's first
- 31:20Speaker 4: game for the Cowboys too, and Rocket it went right
- 31:23Speaker 4: through his hands. It was early in the game, went
- 31:26Speaker 4: right through his hands. And and they and Rocket tells
- 31:28Speaker 4: a great story. It might take about twelve minutes, but
- 31:30Speaker 4: he tells, he tells a great story about that play
- 31:32Speaker 4: in the huddle and then talking about it. But yeah,
- 31:35Speaker 4: it it's it's great. It's it's it's one of the
- 31:39Speaker 4: I mean, it's the top game for me of of
- 31:42Speaker 4: all time, of just you know, most memorable because it
- 31:46Speaker 4: was so meaningful and to be there and and and
- 31:49Speaker 4: to see, you know, because it wasn't just Eric Bjornsen
- 31:54Speaker 4: or Johnathan or Jeff Ogden or Chris Warren making plays.
- 31:59Speaker 1: It was EMITTT.
- 32:01Speaker 4: Smith, Michael Irvin, Troy Aikman and then Rocket at the end.
- 32:06Speaker 4: It's those guys making the plays. At the end of
- 32:08Speaker 4: the nineties, the start of the decade, I was in
- 32:11Speaker 4: junior high in high school, you know, and loving these
- 32:13Speaker 4: guys and loving the cowboys and all that, and then
- 32:15Speaker 4: the end of the decade, here they are, those guys
- 32:18Speaker 4: are the ones making the plays. And so yeah, without
- 32:21Speaker 4: a doubt, that will always be my favorite game.
- 32:24Speaker 10: Oh I'll never forget that play, Yeah, never forget it.
- 32:28Speaker 10: The way they announced was like.
- 32:29Speaker 13: Oh Rocket, yeah, yeah.
- 32:32Speaker 10: He just launched it. I mean put it right in
- 32:34Speaker 10: he ownstride. And I'm like, I just don't. I just
- 32:38Speaker 10: don't see that like that a lot anymore. But yeah,
- 32:43Speaker 10: all right, hey, I appreciate that sounds good.
- 32:47Speaker 4: Appreciate you. All right, let's keep it rolling here, We've
- 32:51Speaker 4: got Steve in New York.
- 32:57Speaker 1: How you been you know what been been great?
- 33:01Speaker 15: I mean I'm glad. I was just telling Chris, I
- 33:04Speaker 15: got like two feet of snow up here and now
- 33:06Speaker 15: it's going to be like sixty degrees, so.
- 33:09Speaker 9: I love it.
- 33:10Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 33:10Speaker 4: Yeah, the rain here and it's like freaking everybody out.
- 33:15Speaker 10: So yeah, we'll see.
- 33:16Speaker 15: Yeah.
- 33:17Speaker 10: Yeah.
- 33:18Speaker 15: You know when you're talking about the whole picking thing,
- 33:20Speaker 15: and I'm glad they resigned them. You know, they put it,
- 33:23Speaker 15: they franchise them. You know, I wish when I went
- 33:26Speaker 15: to college that there was a course that you could
- 33:29Speaker 15: take for the salary cap because think about it, was
- 33:32Speaker 15: it ninety four, it came here, that's when, that's when
- 33:34Speaker 15: the NFL had it. What are we looking at? Like
- 33:37Speaker 15: there's still so many like intricacies and angles that I
- 33:42Speaker 15: think half the people I don't even understand it. Like
- 33:44Speaker 15: how many times do you see another team like the
- 33:47Speaker 15: Eagles they signed Someoney're like, how do they have money
- 33:50Speaker 15: right to get this guy? And I just wish there
- 33:53Speaker 15: was like you know, it's every time you think you
- 33:55Speaker 15: know the cap and like you said, oh what up
- 33:57Speaker 15: to three hundred million that's already So basically it went
- 34:02Speaker 15: up to something that we were over already, so I
- 34:04Speaker 15: don't you know.
- 34:05Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know, I always think of it like this.
- 34:09Speaker 4: Think about your own money, you like, like like your
- 34:11Speaker 4: own accounts, and you might have more than one and
- 34:14Speaker 4: different things, and you know, and.
- 34:16Speaker 1: How you justify doing this here.
- 34:18Speaker 4: I'll pay for this here, but you know, I don't
- 34:20Speaker 4: have to worry about that because I know this is
- 34:21Speaker 4: coming in here, like you can do You can do
- 34:24Speaker 4: that for yourself, you know, because you kind of know
- 34:27Speaker 4: all that stuff going on. And so I always think
- 34:30Speaker 4: it's weird when people try to write, like how much
- 34:33Speaker 4: money do the Cowboys have in the cap? It's so
- 34:36Speaker 4: fluid that like even this morning and like right now,
- 34:41Speaker 4: think about how different it is, just like that, just
- 34:44Speaker 4: like that the Cowboys decided to trigger this and change
- 34:47Speaker 4: it up here, and so you know, they can do
- 34:50Speaker 4: so many different things. And they're also they know these
- 34:54Speaker 4: things are coming in So every time you see you know,
- 34:56Speaker 4: the Cowboys have fifty million caps, well twenty five of
- 35:02Speaker 4: it they've put over here on the shelf because they
- 35:05Speaker 4: know that they need it during the season. They know
- 35:07Speaker 4: you have to pay for these things here and there.
- 35:09Speaker 4: So that's why it's I always think it's weird. I
- 35:13Speaker 4: wouldn't want anyone to come in and tell me about
- 35:15Speaker 4: what's going on with my finances. I think it's weird
- 35:17Speaker 4: when people try to do it others because it is
- 35:19Speaker 4: not black and white there.
- 35:21Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean they have.
- 35:22Speaker 15: They have all these websites where you can go to
- 35:24Speaker 15: and it's all I think, it's all you know.
- 35:26Speaker 4: Yeah, well, yes, some of those websites are good to
- 35:29Speaker 4: learn about the contract and understand how the contract works
- 35:33Speaker 4: the fourth year, the fifth year, if you cut him here,
- 35:37Speaker 4: some of those. Some of those websites are pretty good
- 35:39Speaker 4: from a from a contract standpoint, right, But.
- 35:42Speaker 15: As far as like when they say, well this team
- 35:45Speaker 15: has you know, X amount of dollars available, that gets
- 35:47Speaker 15: really that's kind of not what the situation is, Which
- 35:51Speaker 15: leads me to this question. This is just you know,
- 35:52Speaker 15: your personal opinions, you know, based on this league and
- 35:55Speaker 15: what you've seen over the years. Do you think, and again,
- 35:58Speaker 15: I want to keep the guy, but do you think
- 36:00Speaker 15: it's financially possible with the cap to keep two number
- 36:05Speaker 15: one receivers like we would have to long term deals?
- 36:11Speaker 1: Yeah, I do.
- 36:14Speaker 4: I think I think it's I think you can I
- 36:17Speaker 4: think you, you know, just how you want to be structured.
- 36:20Speaker 1: But they but they have to take it up a notch.
- 36:27Speaker 4: And I you know, I'm not just gonna say, well
- 36:29Speaker 4: the offense offense is fine, you know, just fixed the defense.
- 36:33Speaker 4: None of the offense has to be even better than that,
- 36:35Speaker 4: especially if you're gonna pay pickings now, like it has
- 36:38Speaker 4: to be that dynamic and that borderline unstoppable, you know.
- 36:44Speaker 4: And so because if that's how you're structuring what you're paying.
- 36:47Speaker 4: You paid your quarterback, you're paying your two receivers. You've
- 36:50Speaker 4: got the highest guard in the game, and it sounds
- 36:53Speaker 4: like you're gonna have the highest kicker as well. You're
- 36:55Speaker 4: having having all these contracts. You better go in running
- 36:59Speaker 4: backs getting pretty good money too. Now you better go
- 37:02Speaker 4: and be a team that's going to get thirty to
- 37:04Speaker 4: thirty five points a game and outscore people. You have
- 37:06Speaker 4: to do that. That's how you're structure it. Then you
- 37:09Speaker 4: then that's the standard, and off nights aren't aren't really
- 37:14Speaker 4: gonna be accepted.
- 37:16Speaker 6: No fair enough.
- 37:17Speaker 15: I totally get that. Yeah, it's gonna be interesting real
- 37:22Speaker 15: real quick. On the trivia, segueing right into wide receivers,
- 37:25Speaker 15: our number eighty eight, so we know the history. Who's
- 37:29Speaker 15: a do you know who the eighty eight between the
- 37:33Speaker 15: tight end for the Cowboys early two thousands prior to
- 37:39Speaker 15: not Antonio Antonio O'Bryant was what was that two thousands
- 37:43Speaker 15: of Yeah, that was part in between there there was
- 37:46Speaker 15: an eighty eight who caught one pass as a cowboy,
- 37:50Speaker 15: maybe maybe two passes as a cowboy and his in
- 37:52Speaker 15: his NFL career. You know who it was. You probably
- 37:55Speaker 15: know who it wasn't have.
- 37:56Speaker 1: A story, but well is Jackie Harris?
- 38:00Speaker 15: No, no, Jackie Harris. Well he did wear idio, but
- 38:02Speaker 15: he actually did a lot. He had a y pretty
- 38:04Speaker 15: good numbers.
- 38:05Speaker 4: So there's another eighty eight. Yeah, in between Jackie Harris
- 38:09Speaker 4: and Antonio Bryant.
- 38:11Speaker 15: Listen, it's obscure, but you're you're good with the obscure.
- 38:14Speaker 15: So that's why.
- 38:16Speaker 1: Did Brett Pierce wear eighty eight?
- 38:18Speaker 10: Wow?
- 38:18Speaker 15: Yeah, Brett Pierce?
- 38:20Speaker 10: That you got it.
- 38:22Speaker 15: What's amazing too, because I think the only pass he
- 38:25Speaker 15: caught as a cowboy after check this but and I
- 38:28Speaker 15: don't even have to tell you what year, what week,
- 38:30Speaker 15: and because you'll know the game I just called the
- 38:33Speaker 15: Santana Moss Game because it was one of the worst
- 38:35Speaker 15: football mes.
- 38:37Speaker 4: Best half of the time, best halftime of all time
- 38:40Speaker 4: because because the triple went into the Ring of Honor.
- 38:43Speaker 4: And then after that, Yeah, I remember being at the
- 38:47Speaker 4: stadium looking at my media guide to see when's the
- 38:52Speaker 4: last time the Cowboys had a shutout because it was
- 38:54Speaker 4: like thirteen to nothing, and then the next thing, you know,
- 38:58Speaker 4: Moss Santana, Moss, they've those fourteen thirteen.
- 39:01Speaker 1: Yeah, that was that was about with Brett Pierce. I
- 39:04Speaker 1: didn't I guess I didn't realize he wore eighty eight.
- 39:07Speaker 15: He did, he actually did for a year. Yeah, forty
- 39:11Speaker 15: nine guy, good guy. Yeah, you know, Nick, thank you
- 39:14Speaker 15: always for thanking man.
- 39:15Speaker 1: Appreciate it.
- 39:16Speaker 4: I don't have a big story about Brett Pierce, but
- 39:19Speaker 4: I'll say this, especially with the way things are at
- 39:21Speaker 4: the combine and and how these guys can can drop
- 39:25Speaker 4: just based off of you know, dimensions and all that,
- 39:29Speaker 4: he didn't have the longest arms in the four tight end.
- 39:32Speaker 4: I mean, in fact, he was one of the shortest
- 39:34Speaker 4: arms for for tight ends. Very noticeable too, so he
- 39:37Speaker 4: would have been if he did go to the combine,
- 39:39Speaker 4: he would have that would have been a story if
- 39:42Speaker 4: that I think it's kind of kind of crazy. And
- 39:44Speaker 4: I remember asking a scout we were we were on
- 39:47Speaker 4: a bus two years ago going to to you know,
- 39:51Speaker 4: the bus ride from from Lax to Oxnard is is longer,
- 39:55Speaker 4: always longer than expected. You know, you think you're there,
- 39:57Speaker 4: you know, and you're still about an hour and a
- 39:59Speaker 4: half hour or though, depending on traffic. And I'm on
- 40:01Speaker 4: the bus and I'm talking to a scout and I'm like, so,
- 40:03Speaker 4: if Cooper Babe was so good and everyone's so excited
- 40:07Speaker 4: about him, why did he go to the third round?
- 40:09Speaker 4: And i mean without hesitation. The scout was like thirty
- 40:12Speaker 4: one and a half its charms. I'm like, oh, okay, yeah,
- 40:16Speaker 4: that's the thing. Yeah, thirty one in charms. That's why
- 40:19Speaker 4: you know that, that's why he's not playing guard, that's
- 40:20Speaker 4: why he's playing center. And I'm just like, okay, you know,
- 40:23Speaker 4: it's just it's it's funny to me how just a
- 40:27Speaker 4: couple of you know, a couple of inches here and
- 40:29Speaker 4: there are gonna are gonna change a guy going to
- 40:31Speaker 4: the you know what round, you know, second, third, fourth round.
- 40:34Speaker 4: But you know you're hearing about it with Miami, with Bain,
- 40:37Speaker 4: another situation like that, you know, to me, if he
- 40:41Speaker 4: can play, he can play. And I said this before,
- 40:44Speaker 4: I want these guys that that love football, absolutely love
- 40:47Speaker 4: football one thousand percent, because those are the guys that
- 40:50Speaker 4: are gonna be in the in the weight room. Those
- 40:52Speaker 4: are the guys are gonna be in the film room.
- 40:54Speaker 4: And and I think that you know, four to three
- 40:57Speaker 4: three sounds great, and and maybe forty three in vertical.
- 41:02Speaker 4: All that stuff is awesome. But the guys that absolutely
- 41:06Speaker 4: are going to put their heart and soul in their
- 41:08Speaker 4: profession to play football, I think that makes up the
- 41:12Speaker 4: difference for a forty time or however long your arms
- 41:16Speaker 4: are and things like that.
- 41:18Speaker 1: All right, let's go to Rob in Vegas.
- 41:19Speaker 8: What's up?
- 41:20Speaker 1: Rob?
- 41:20Speaker 6: Hey?
- 41:20Speaker 9: Nick?
- 41:21Speaker 1: You doing good?
- 41:22Speaker 14: You?
- 41:23Speaker 9: I'm good. You know, talking about the draft, I heard
- 41:26Speaker 9: something yesterday. You know, everybody wants to keep the pigs,
- 41:31Speaker 9: and everybody has this great trust for whatever reason, for
- 41:36Speaker 9: the Cowboys drafting on defense. But they said, in the
- 41:40Speaker 9: last twelve years, twelve drafts, all the defensive ends, they've
- 41:45Speaker 9: drafted only one. And I was twelve years ago that
- 41:51Speaker 9: actually panned out with Tank Lawrence. If you look at it,
- 41:55Speaker 9: everybody else was pretty much averaged to a bus now.
- 41:59Speaker 1: Just defensive ends defensive end.
- 42:03Speaker 9: As Iraku let's say said, it's still we don't know,
- 42:07Speaker 9: but if you look at it, and it's crazy. When
- 42:09Speaker 9: they started naming the names, I'm like, who the hell
- 42:13Speaker 9: is that guy? I don't remember? I didn't remember eighty
- 42:17Speaker 9: percent of the guys. And I'm like, that's why when
- 42:23Speaker 9: you have an opportunity to get a you know, a
- 42:27Speaker 9: Max Max Crosby and hearing being here in Vegas, it's
- 42:33Speaker 9: it's going to happen, you know it. It is, he's going.
- 42:37Speaker 9: My fear is he's going to Philadelphia because they will
- 42:40Speaker 9: do whatever it takes. But people talking about the money.
- 42:46Speaker 9: Everybody was willing to give Micah and I definitely wanted
- 42:50Speaker 9: to forty million dollars. This guy's ten million dollars cheaper
- 42:55Speaker 9: and probably a better all around player at the position.
- 43:01Speaker 9: And I think he's only two years old these twenty eight,
- 43:05Speaker 9: So anybody talking about the money is ridiculous because you
- 43:09Speaker 9: would have dropped forty forty one, forty two on Mike
- 43:12Speaker 9: and a heartbeat, and you're getting this guy at thirty.
- 43:16Speaker 9: And I know there's other players out there, like a Hendrickson,
- 43:21Speaker 9: but he's older and he ain't going to be free.
- 43:24Speaker 9: He's going to be close to thirty, you know, twenty five,
- 43:28Speaker 9: you know, And I keep hearing about it. I keep
- 43:33Speaker 9: hear by talking about the Dak window, a three year window. Well,
- 43:37Speaker 9: then it to me, it's a no brainer. It's a
- 43:41Speaker 9: no brainer. If if Dak was gone and we were
- 43:45Speaker 9: starting with a rookie, then I don't expect much. Go
- 43:50Speaker 9: go do what you gotta do. But you got a
- 43:52Speaker 9: three year window now to Pickens thing. I love Pickens,
- 43:57Speaker 9: but I'd rather have a great defense, or I'm not
- 44:00Speaker 9: even going to say a great defense, but I think
- 44:03Speaker 9: this team would be more successful with a very good offense,
- 44:08Speaker 9: which they've always had with Deck, a healthy Deck at quarterback,
- 44:13Speaker 9: regardless who the wide receivers were, the offenses were, especially
- 44:17Speaker 9: once they got CD, they've always had top I think
- 44:20Speaker 9: he's had top five offense like three four times. I mean,
- 44:24Speaker 9: I'd rather have a very good offense, which I think
- 44:27Speaker 9: i'd get without Pickings, and a very good defense. I
- 44:31Speaker 9: could win more with that combination than what I had
- 44:34Speaker 9: last year. The number one offense, a number two offense,
- 44:38Speaker 9: but a terrible defense. And if we're expecting a Christian
- 44:44Speaker 9: Parker who's never been a DC to flip it from
- 44:48Speaker 9: a thirty second ranked defense to fifteen four. I mean,
- 44:53Speaker 9: let's asking a lot with just draft picks and a
- 44:57Speaker 9: couple of free agents. So to me, you got to
- 45:01Speaker 9: get stars at certain positions, and defensive end is the most.
- 45:07Speaker 9: A pass rusher is the most important person on defense.
- 45:10Speaker 9: That's why they get paid the most. It's not quarterback.
- 45:14Speaker 9: It's not linebacker, and today maybe in nineteen ninety four
- 45:19Speaker 9: it was, but now if you cannot get to the quarterback,
- 45:23Speaker 9: you cannot win.
- 45:25Speaker 1: All right.
- 45:26Speaker 4: I don't think the Cowboys disagree with you anything that
- 45:29Speaker 4: you're saying. I think this is one of those cases.
- 45:32Speaker 1: Rob. I think Jerry sounds like he's on the same page.
- 45:36Speaker 15: There.
- 45:37Speaker 1: We'll see what happens.
- 45:38Speaker 9: I mean, I know, but I don't have to. I
- 45:41Speaker 9: don't trust Jerry Jerry Law.
- 45:43Speaker 1: You know, yeah, show me.
- 45:45Speaker 9: Show me you robbed.
- 45:46Speaker 4: The free agency starts next week, so we can't do
- 45:48Speaker 4: it right now. I mean we can't.
- 45:49Speaker 1: You can't.
- 45:50Speaker 9: Apt The only thing I don't like is what I've
- 45:52Speaker 9: heard is they're going to try to piecemeal this this
- 45:56Speaker 9: defensive end position again, and it doesn't I don't want
- 46:01Speaker 9: bodies I want one guy you could pencil in to
- 46:06Speaker 9: be able to be the starter to play most of
- 46:09Speaker 9: the snaps. Give me that guy who's really good. I
- 46:12Speaker 9: don't want free good guys. Give me one great player
- 46:17Speaker 9: at that position, and then you could have a couple
- 46:19Speaker 9: of good guys on the other side.
- 46:21Speaker 1: All Right, I think thanks for the call.
- 46:22Speaker 6: Now.
- 46:23Speaker 4: I usually I would I would sit and argue with
- 46:27Speaker 4: you and kind of went off for a little bit.
- 46:29Speaker 4: We can argue about this next week. Let's let's do
- 46:31Speaker 4: the research on that. Because the one guy, the one
- 46:35Speaker 4: guy that you're talking about this here recently, those teams
- 46:40Speaker 4: aren't winning. You know, you just saw a Super Bowl team,
- 46:45Speaker 4: both of them with with a bunch of guys not
- 46:48Speaker 4: not really like a bona fide you know, stud pass rusher.
- 46:54Speaker 4: There was a stat two years ago where the top
- 46:56Speaker 4: five pass rushers in the league, none of them they're
- 46:59Speaker 4: teams in make the playoffs. Michah was one of them
- 47:02Speaker 4: with with the Cowboys, Miles Garrett was Was it happened
- 47:06Speaker 4: again this this past year?
- 47:07Speaker 1: TJ. Watt?
- 47:08Speaker 4: This was this is like two years ago. Hendrickson, Crosby, Watt, Garrett, Micah,
- 47:14Speaker 4: none of them made none of them made the playoffs
- 47:17Speaker 4: this year. Micah's team did obviously make the playoffs. I
- 47:20Speaker 4: think t J.
- 47:21Speaker 1: Watt they snuck in there. I mean, I don't. They
- 47:24Speaker 1: weren't world beaters, but they got in there.
- 47:27Speaker 8: You know.
- 47:28Speaker 4: Obviously Crosby didn't. Then Miles Garrett didn't, you know, And
- 47:31Speaker 4: I don't have those stats in front of me, but
- 47:32Speaker 4: but you can make that case that these top pass rushers,
- 47:37Speaker 4: it doesn't necessarily mean that they make the playoffs. I
- 47:41Speaker 4: like to do a little bit more of study on
- 47:43Speaker 4: that because I know what it's been the last couple
- 47:46Speaker 4: of years. I don't know long term, uh what it was.
- 47:50Speaker 4: I mean, you know saw DeMarcus where every year was
- 47:53Speaker 4: up there. Didn't mean the Cowboys always were, but it's
- 48:00Speaker 4: still good to have though, you know, he still want
- 48:02Speaker 4: that guy. I'll take my chances. I think I'm with you.
- 48:05Speaker 4: I'm not trying to argue with you on that. I'm
- 48:07Speaker 4: thinking I'm with you. I'd rather have that one guy
- 48:09Speaker 4: because what I've seen is that one guy makes the
- 48:13Speaker 4: other guys pretty good too, as opposed to if you
- 48:17Speaker 4: just got a bunch of other guys. I mean, you
- 48:19Speaker 4: can't have a bunch of solid guys you got to have.
- 48:22Speaker 4: If you're not going to have an elite pass rusher,
- 48:25Speaker 4: then you need about three or four that are really good,
- 48:27Speaker 4: and that might even be more expensive to do that.
- 48:30Speaker 1: All right, j R. And Avondale's next.
- 48:33Speaker 8: He Nick, how you doing hanging in there? Hey? One
- 48:38Speaker 8: hundred and ninety two days to the first Sunday of football. Hey,
- 48:44Speaker 8: I got to tell you, I've been a fan since
- 48:47Speaker 8: Don Meredith and Bob Hayes were playing while I was
- 48:49Speaker 8: a little kid. You're pulling Brett Pierce out. It's just
- 48:54Speaker 8: I almost sell off the couch. I would have ever
- 48:57Speaker 8: gotten that, and so I am definitely in awe of
- 49:00Speaker 8: your knowledge. So excellent, Josh.
- 49:03Speaker 1: You know, we thank you. We all have our strengths
- 49:06Speaker 1: and we all have our weaknesses. I just, yeah, we don't.
- 49:10Speaker 4: I don't want Chris being getting on the mic telling
- 49:12Speaker 4: you things that I that I don't do so well.
- 49:14Speaker 4: So you know what, we all do our things. We
- 49:16Speaker 4: all have her we all have our things, we all
- 49:17Speaker 4: have our quirks.
- 49:18Speaker 1: All good.
- 49:19Speaker 8: Yeah. Friends called me to ask me things about Dallas Cowboys,
- 49:22Speaker 8: and I'm supposed to know all this stuff, and I
- 49:25Speaker 8: would have never in a million years gotten that. But anyway,
- 49:28Speaker 8: so about Caleb Downs, I've heard a NFC scout leaked
- 49:34Speaker 8: this information. Well, what if it was our scout leaked
- 49:38Speaker 8: that information to get him to drop to number twelve
- 49:42Speaker 8: so we can draft him or I don't know about
- 49:45Speaker 8: that information or how accurate it is, but if Caleb's down,
- 49:49Speaker 8: Caleb Downs is there at twelve, I'm drafting him. Yeah,
- 49:53Speaker 8: I'm taking him. Remember the guy out of Memphis years ago,
- 49:57Speaker 8: he had something wrong with his need degenitive knee condition
- 50:00Speaker 8: and then he wasn't going to play and he went undrafted.
- 50:02Speaker 8: His name was Ron Leary and he had a He
- 50:05Speaker 8: had a pretty good career with the Cowboys. And I
- 50:07Speaker 8: think the Bronco right another guy. I don't know about
- 50:15Speaker 8: a possible degenitive knee or any of that. But I'm
- 50:18Speaker 8: drafting Caleb Downs if he comes out at twelve. But anyway,
- 50:23Speaker 8: my question be special teams. We've talked so much about
- 50:26Speaker 8: defense and that I'm gonna go a different direction special teams.
- 50:30Speaker 8: I fully expected there to be a change at the
- 50:32Speaker 8: special teams coaching level, and I guess Nick Sorenson is
- 50:36Speaker 8: still there. So my question to you is good and
- 50:41Speaker 8: bad on special teams?
- 50:43Speaker 12: Last year.
- 50:43Speaker 8: Of course, I think we got spoiled with when Bones
- 50:46Speaker 8: Fossil was there. But do you think the issue with
- 50:50Speaker 8: special teams going the wrong direction? Is it coaching scheme
- 50:55Speaker 8: or I know there's a certain core of players that
- 50:58Speaker 8: play special teams and that's a group of players that
- 51:02Speaker 8: turn that they churn a lot. Do we need to
- 51:05Speaker 8: look at those players? Maybe? I know we're talking a
- 51:08Speaker 8: lot about all these important positions, so that's important too.
- 51:12Speaker 8: So do we need to look at getting some better
- 51:14Speaker 8: players in that group or do you think it was coaching? Anyway,
- 51:16Speaker 8: That's all I got and have a great day, go Cowboy.
- 51:19Speaker 4: All right, Thanks appreciated, j R. That's a good question
- 51:22Speaker 4: about special teams, and I think it's both. I mean,
- 51:25Speaker 4: I really believe it was a combination of both. I mean,
- 51:29Speaker 4: you know, Cavante Turpin set the record for most combined
- 51:36Speaker 4: return yards in Cowboys history.
- 51:40Speaker 1: Was he special?
- 51:41Speaker 14: Like?
- 51:42Speaker 1: Was it really that? I mean, he had one long run.
- 51:46Speaker 4: I think I forgot what game it was, you know,
- 51:49Speaker 4: eighty eighty nine yards eighty or ninety Later in the
- 51:52Speaker 4: season maybe Washington the Giants game at the last game
- 51:56Speaker 4: of the season, didn't score but had a long return
- 52:00Speaker 4: of the that he really didn't have a lot of
- 52:01Speaker 4: big returns. He only had fifty five pump return yards,
- 52:06Speaker 4: so it wasn't blocked that well for him. Now the
- 52:09Speaker 4: numbers came in and the fact that he just had
- 52:11Speaker 4: so many returns because the defense was so bad and
- 52:14Speaker 4: they kept giving up points and people kept kicking off
- 52:17Speaker 4: and and give Cavante in his one hundred and sixty
- 52:21Speaker 4: five seventy pounds, you know, give him credit for playing
- 52:25Speaker 4: all season and you know, taking a lot of hits
- 52:27Speaker 4: and getting back up and all that kind of stuff.
- 52:30Speaker 4: So I think it's a it's a noteworthy record, but
- 52:32Speaker 4: I think we know why he had so many yards.
- 52:36Speaker 4: It wasn't because it was getting blocked so perfectly all
- 52:39Speaker 4: the time. Fifty five pound return yards for a season.
- 52:42Speaker 4: That show. That shows me a couple of things. Number One,
- 52:44Speaker 4: you're not stopping anyone and they're not punting. And number two,
- 52:47Speaker 4: when they are, you know they're they're you know, they're
- 52:49Speaker 4: not really given to an opportunity to do a whole lot.
- 52:51Speaker 4: And when he when there, you know, is that chance
- 52:54Speaker 4: it wasn't blocked that well personnel wise. Again, I hate
- 52:59Speaker 4: to keep blaming the defense, but it kind of starts there, right,
- 53:02Speaker 4: They couldn't figure out the defense at all. They couldn't
- 53:04Speaker 4: figure out who needs to be playing on defense, and
- 53:07Speaker 4: so you're getting guys brought up from the practice squad
- 53:10Speaker 4: all the time, elevated in the middle, you know, of
- 53:13Speaker 4: the of the week, elevated right before the game, and
- 53:16Speaker 4: and they have to play defense, and that some of
- 53:18Speaker 4: them are starting, and you know so so the whole
- 53:21Speaker 4: special teams part, I think you have a really good
- 53:24Speaker 4: special teams when you have core players, When you have
- 53:26Speaker 4: a core defensive guys and not doing a lot of
- 53:30Speaker 4: rotating there, your special teams guys get to kind of
- 53:33Speaker 4: be there. Not this game they're starting and now they're
- 53:36Speaker 4: back to special ms.
- 53:38Speaker 1: It was.
- 53:38Speaker 4: It was kind of a mess, and it starts because
- 53:40Speaker 4: of the defense. I think if they get more consistency
- 53:44Speaker 4: on defense, I think you'd get more consistency on special teams.
- 53:47Speaker 4: But let's let's be honest. I mean, the scheme blocking
- 53:51Speaker 4: part that all could be better as well. All right,
- 53:55Speaker 4: Ali and Florida's next.
- 54:00Speaker 6: You pretty good, buddy? How about you?
- 54:02Speaker 17: Good couple of things. First of all, happy belated birthday.
- 54:09Speaker 6: I hope you.
- 54:10Speaker 17: Had a wonderful day.
- 54:12Speaker 12: I did.
- 54:13Speaker 1: Thank you good.
- 54:14Speaker 17: You know, every birthday we get it's a birthday we
- 54:20Speaker 17: didn't have, so I'm.
- 54:21Speaker 1: So happy for you.
- 54:23Speaker 17: Second, I want to put the vote for Irene to
- 54:27Speaker 17: be a president because she does a lot of stuff.
- 54:32Speaker 17: So she's just like she always notified us what to do.
- 54:37Speaker 6: Well not to do stuff. That's great.
- 54:39Speaker 17: That's my two cents.
- 54:41Speaker 13: Then thirteing.
- 54:44Speaker 8: This is a personal level.
- 54:45Speaker 17: I don't like Michael Parsons agent because I thought he
- 54:50Speaker 17: had a couple of things. You went on ESPN didn't
- 54:53Speaker 17: say the right thing. But I'm so glad Jerry put
- 54:57Speaker 17: the French franchise tagle on ticking, so at least we've
- 55:03Speaker 17: got the little control versus he.
- 55:08Speaker 6: Gets another last laugh.
- 55:10Speaker 17: The last thing my question to you is this, I'm
- 55:14Speaker 17: so happy about these coaching staff, defensive coaching staff.
- 55:21Speaker 10: On the.
- 55:23Speaker 17: On the press conference, one of the reporter asked the
- 55:33Speaker 17: I had defensive coordinated that are you going to bring
- 55:37Speaker 17: anybody from Eagles and then it says we don't want
- 55:41Speaker 17: to talk about that. Now I have a feeling he's
- 55:45Speaker 17: going to bring. I mean every coach that brings somebody
- 55:48Speaker 17: they know the system. He brings somebody from an Eagles
- 55:51Speaker 17: and I'm particularly some of these young coaches. What I'm
- 55:56Speaker 17: hoping they know a player under the radar, like a
- 56:01Speaker 17: Georgia linebacker coach. Then because they have a lot of
- 56:06Speaker 17: great lonebackers, they give us a little bit of benefit
- 56:09Speaker 17: that when we want to sign those lords here free
- 56:13Speaker 17: ah the daft pick. So because a little bit of
- 56:16Speaker 17: benefit of little knowledge from any.
- 56:19Speaker 6: Of these guys.
- 56:20Speaker 17: So but that's my take. And I just called say
- 56:24Speaker 17: hello and Bryer from Kansas City. It shuld be the
- 56:28Speaker 17: most politiest top the color of the storyliner.
- 56:33Speaker 1: I love your brother, Thank you so much.
- 56:38Speaker 4: You know, I think that that you're right about, you know,
- 56:41Speaker 4: the familiarity of coaches and the players that they've seen,
- 56:46Speaker 4: they've coached against some of them. It's not just the
- 56:48Speaker 4: guys that coach that that they've coached against and had
- 56:50Speaker 4: to prepare for. Man like man sure wouldn't mind having
- 56:54Speaker 4: that guy. When does he become a free agent? You know,
- 56:57Speaker 4: and that that that happens too. So you know, you
- 57:00Speaker 4: have a wide range of coaches that are they're younger
- 57:05Speaker 4: then you haven't been around the league too long. But
- 57:10Speaker 4: then again, I mean the guys that you're trying to
- 57:13Speaker 4: get in free agency here that you're drafting. Obviously they're
- 57:17Speaker 4: in college. Last year, the guys in free agency were
- 57:19Speaker 4: you know, been in the league for or five years
- 57:22Speaker 4: for the most part. So it's not like I'm not
- 57:25Speaker 4: saying that experience isn't good, because it's good in other ways.
- 57:27Speaker 4: But also, you know, if you've you've got some NFL experience,
- 57:30Speaker 4: you've been around for a few years. I mean, especially
- 57:32Speaker 4: when you're talking about personnel schemes, it's always evolving all
- 57:36Speaker 4: the time. So I don't think the Cowboys are going
- 57:38Speaker 4: to be uh short on experience. I think they're gonna
- 57:41Speaker 4: have a lot of energy. But you know, it's it's
- 57:45Speaker 4: all got to got to work out too. I Mean,
- 57:47Speaker 4: we saw it at training camp, saught a practice. I mean,
- 57:49Speaker 4: they do a lot of you know, crazy stuff at
- 57:53Speaker 4: practice and and the drills and and some of the
- 57:56Speaker 4: things that you see out there, and you know, it's
- 57:58Speaker 4: all it all sounds good, you know, but go win
- 58:02Speaker 4: some games, you know, and then then you won seven
- 58:04Speaker 4: last year, just like you won seven the year before.
- 58:06Speaker 1: So I'm not.
- 58:07Speaker 4: Saying energy won't be the same, but you know, maybe
- 58:10Speaker 4: let's you know, focus more on on the middle of
- 58:13Speaker 4: the week and other things as opposed to going out
- 58:16Speaker 4: there and running around again. That's not why they didn't
- 58:20Speaker 4: win games, It's just that there's different approaches. You'll see
- 58:23Speaker 4: a different approach this year with with what they're what
- 58:25Speaker 4: they're doing. All right, let's go to break real quick
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- 59:47Speaker 4: We've got Lester, been on the line holding for a
- 59:50Speaker 4: little bit, Lester, what's up about?
- 59:53Speaker 19: Hey?
- 59:54Speaker 6: Good morning neck?
- 59:55Speaker 1: Are you?
- 59:57Speaker 6: I'm doing good?
- 59:58Speaker 5: Man?
- 1:00:00Speaker 6: I didn't get a chance to get in last week,
- 1:00:02Speaker 6: but uh, you know, of the callers sounded good. Hey,
- 1:00:07Speaker 6: But on the which you would you rather think? I
- 1:00:10Speaker 6: would rather have we got a lot of holes of seal,
- 1:00:13Speaker 6: so I would rather have the two linebackers and the
- 1:00:18Speaker 6: guy from Cincinnati I think Hendrix is his name, if
- 1:00:21Speaker 6: that's the scenario, because we got a lot of holes
- 1:00:24Speaker 6: the feal and I feel like we need to go
- 1:00:27Speaker 6: ahead and pay pickings man, because.
- 1:00:30Speaker 5: The things that we're not talking about.
- 1:00:32Speaker 6: And I'm not there, I don't I don't know for sure,
- 1:00:34Speaker 6: but it seems like from afar this is the thing
- 1:00:37Speaker 6: we don't talk about it seems like Pickens is like
- 1:00:40Speaker 6: an inspiration to the at least the offense. And sometimes
- 1:00:44Speaker 6: that even though you know people have baggage or whatever,
- 1:00:48Speaker 6: sometimes that that that that that holds a lot of
- 1:00:51Speaker 6: water man, and we're not talking about that part. It
- 1:00:54Speaker 6: seems like, I mean, dak is saying, hey sign a guy,
- 1:01:00Speaker 6: guy say hey sign, we got to sign and the
- 1:01:01Speaker 6: running back when he said pay Pickings, and so it
- 1:01:04Speaker 6: just seems like he's an inspiration, and that's something we
- 1:01:08Speaker 6: don't talk about. Man. So that's why I say, you know,
- 1:01:11Speaker 6: go ahead and pay him a course if you want
- 1:01:13Speaker 6: one hundred million dollars, you know, don't do that. I mean,
- 1:01:16Speaker 6: you know that's obvious, but well he does.
- 1:01:18Speaker 1: I mean over over three years maybe or or even
- 1:01:24Speaker 1: probably two and a half.
- 1:01:25Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, illion a year.
- 1:01:28Speaker 4: I know what you mean. I know what you mean.
- 1:01:31Speaker 4: And you know, you know lesser. There's there's two sides
- 1:01:35Speaker 4: to that, because when you get paid the contract like that,
- 1:01:40Speaker 4: you know, and whatever whatever the base salary is. Let's
- 1:01:42Speaker 4: say the base salary is thirty four million a year.
- 1:01:45Speaker 4: Let's say that was his base salary. Well, it's you know,
- 1:01:49Speaker 4: every I think it's usually they get divided by seventeen
- 1:01:53Speaker 4: you know, paychecks. Maybe it's eighteen now, but about seventeen paychecks,
- 1:01:56Speaker 4: it's that's two million a year, consistently, two million every Tuesday.
- 1:02:00Speaker 4: That's what you get paid consistently. So you're talking about
- 1:02:04Speaker 4: the what what he brings to the table, which is,
- 1:02:07Speaker 4: you know, the the emotional part of it. Okay, that's fine,
- 1:02:11Speaker 4: as long as it's the same as that paycheck and
- 1:02:13Speaker 4: it's consistent, and that that's what we all struggle with,
- 1:02:16Speaker 4: right some days, we have good days, we have bad days. Whatever,
- 1:02:20Speaker 4: what was going on in Detroit? Where was it that day?
- 1:02:23Speaker 4: CD was hurt and he had to be out of
- 1:02:26Speaker 4: the game. Where was he that day? Now, the first
- 1:02:30Speaker 4: three or four games that Seed got hurt, he stepped
- 1:02:32Speaker 4: it up. There's no doubt about it, Carolina. They were
- 1:02:35Speaker 4: walking through the motions.
- 1:02:36Speaker 1: He wasn't.
- 1:02:36Speaker 4: He was jumping over people and scoring touchdowns. So Detroit
- 1:02:40Speaker 4: was kind of a weird game for the most part.
- 1:02:42Speaker 1: He brought it.
- 1:02:43Speaker 4: But if you're gonna ask for that kind of money
- 1:02:45Speaker 4: and you're gonna get it consistently, then he needs to
- 1:02:48Speaker 4: be that way as well. And that whole offense does.
- 1:02:50Speaker 4: And I'm not saying they won't be This isn't picking
- 1:02:53Speaker 4: on him. I mean, I'm just saying, you know, he's
- 1:02:56Speaker 4: done everything he's done in his rookie contract, and he
- 1:02:59Speaker 4: made about three million last year and all that. You know,
- 1:03:02Speaker 4: he got fined a lot, He gave a lot of
- 1:03:04Speaker 4: money back because he was late for this, late for that,
- 1:03:07Speaker 4: missed this, missed that. But he kept making those plays
- 1:03:10Speaker 4: and then you kind of just deal with it. You
- 1:03:13Speaker 4: wonder about what happens when you're making thirty million a
- 1:03:15Speaker 4: year or more than that. What is going to be
- 1:03:19Speaker 4: the driving force for him? But he's got a maturity
- 1:03:22Speaker 4: is an issue with all these young players. He's one
- 1:03:24Speaker 4: of them. But again, is he worth it? Is he
- 1:03:28Speaker 4: worth it with the what he does on the field?
- 1:03:31Speaker 1: And I think he is. I think the Cowboys think
- 1:03:32Speaker 1: he is too.
- 1:03:35Speaker 6: Yeah, well, hey man, I'm sure Jerry and the brain
- 1:03:42Speaker 6: trust they're going to make the good decisions this year.
- 1:03:46Speaker 6: I just feel like this is a little different and
- 1:03:48Speaker 6: I'm a little apprehensive myself, like a lot of people
- 1:03:51Speaker 6: are saying, but I'm on the more of the positive
- 1:03:54Speaker 6: side of it. Looks like there's a difference. Looks like
- 1:03:57Speaker 6: Jerry got in that Dolory in again and went back
- 1:04:00Speaker 6: to the early nineties, and I got some advice from
- 1:04:06Speaker 6: younger Jerry, So I think it'll be all right, man,
- 1:04:09Speaker 6: go Cowboys.
- 1:04:10Speaker 4: All right, see you appreciate the call, Lester. Let's go
- 1:04:14Speaker 4: to Nick in Austin.
- 1:04:18Speaker 19: Hey, Nick, how you doing good?
- 1:04:20Speaker 1: How are you good?
- 1:04:22Speaker 5: Thank you?
- 1:04:23Speaker 19: A couple of things real quick, Happy bladd birthday.
- 1:04:27Speaker 1: Thank you appreciate that.
- 1:04:28Speaker 19: And I also wanted to say thanks to the Cowboys
- 1:04:31Speaker 19: organization that you and Derek Eagleton at Chris and you know,
- 1:04:34Speaker 19: for allowing the fans to be able to call it,
- 1:04:36Speaker 19: because this is something truly special.
- 1:04:38Speaker 4: Yeah, so we'll thank you that.
- 1:04:41Speaker 19: And then yeah, and a couple of things. I'm just
- 1:04:45Speaker 19: trying to be fast that somebody else can get on.
- 1:04:47Speaker 19: Christian Parker is going to change a lot of things.
- 1:04:52Speaker 19: My question to you real quick, because they always talk
- 1:04:55Speaker 19: about size, that we have speed, that we're too small,
- 1:04:57Speaker 19: and I think there's something to that. I think our
- 1:05:00Speaker 19: linebackers have been too small. I think the last piece
- 1:05:03Speaker 19: acize the linebacker we have was late Vandersch and when
- 1:05:07Speaker 19: he was healthy, you saw the success he had. I
- 1:05:10Speaker 19: mean he you know, tight ends weren't a problem. You
- 1:05:13Speaker 19: got these big running backs for the problem. I believe
- 1:05:18Speaker 19: that Overshown is too small. He's he's tall or too skinny.
- 1:05:22Speaker 19: I think he's very athletic. If it was me, I
- 1:05:25Speaker 19: would move him to box safety. I don't know what
- 1:05:29Speaker 19: you think about that. And then one other person that
- 1:05:32Speaker 19: I would move Sam Williams. He's not a great defensive end.
- 1:05:37Speaker 19: I don't know if it's the pass rush skills that
- 1:05:40Speaker 19: he's lacking. He's great on special teams, but I think
- 1:05:43Speaker 19: if you could put him in some kind of a
- 1:05:45Speaker 19: linebacker role where he could just run and hit, I
- 1:05:48Speaker 19: think he'd be great. So thank you very much, and I'll.
- 1:05:51Speaker 4: Listen appreciate that, you know, as a playing multiple schemes.
- 1:05:56Speaker 4: I mean, that's one of the things that they that
- 1:05:59Speaker 4: we've heard a lot of here in the last few
- 1:06:01Speaker 4: weeks since they they brought on Christian Parker. You know,
- 1:06:04Speaker 4: three four is going to be like the base defense.
- 1:06:08Speaker 4: So you wonder where certain guys, especially the guys that
- 1:06:12Speaker 4: you would call a tweener. Sam Williams would be one
- 1:06:16Speaker 4: of those. You know, he's not really a defensive end body.
- 1:06:19Speaker 1: He's not.
- 1:06:20Speaker 4: He's a little bit bigger for an outside linebacker, and
- 1:06:23Speaker 4: that's kind of what a three four outside linebacker rusher is.
- 1:06:28Speaker 4: Overshown looks like you said, he's kind of light for
- 1:06:32Speaker 4: a linebacker. He'd be a little bulky for safety. He's
- 1:06:34Speaker 4: a tweener. Marquise Bell is another one like that. So
- 1:06:38Speaker 4: you wonder about this defense is it going to have
- 1:06:41Speaker 4: some of those type of guys. Now you mentioned Sam Williams.
- 1:06:45Speaker 4: I think we have to point out he's an unrestricted
- 1:06:47Speaker 4: free agent, so he's gonna probably hit free agency here.
- 1:06:50Speaker 4: I don't know the plans for him. Maybe you never know,
- 1:06:54Speaker 4: you know, I've told the flows l Adams Stroy, you
- 1:06:56Speaker 4: never know. With Christian Parker and these guys come in
- 1:07:00Speaker 4: and be like, we're gonna sign this guy.
- 1:07:01Speaker 1: I mean, he'd be.
- 1:07:02Speaker 4: Perfect for you don't know, or it could be hey,
- 1:07:05Speaker 4: let's let's you know, it's time to kind of move
- 1:07:07Speaker 4: on and and uh, you know, go go a different
- 1:07:10Speaker 4: direction here. So uh, you know, he needs to he'll
- 1:07:12Speaker 4: get a chance to test test the market and there'll
- 1:07:14Speaker 4: be some of some of those. But I your shot.
- 1:07:19Speaker 4: He was was asked about linebacker. He's first guy you
- 1:07:21Speaker 4: mentioned was was Overshown. He's excited about the fact that
- 1:07:25Speaker 4: over Shown is going to be healthy in this offseason.
- 1:07:28Speaker 4: I mean that that's he that hasn't happened. You know,
- 1:07:31Speaker 4: he hasn't had knowledge, he hasn't had game experience and
- 1:07:35Speaker 4: off season health ever in his career because when he
- 1:07:39Speaker 4: he was here his rookie year and then he got
- 1:07:42Speaker 4: hurt in the preseason, but he had never played in
- 1:07:45Speaker 4: the game, and so he, you know, you didn't really
- 1:07:47Speaker 4: know what to expect. Every other year that he's been here,
- 1:07:50Speaker 4: he's been having the rehabit injury in the offseason. So
- 1:07:55Speaker 4: the combination of health and experience is not anything that
- 1:07:59Speaker 4: he's had before. Now another thing, and this is no
- 1:08:02Speaker 4: different over Shown. This is his fourth year and this
- 1:08:05Speaker 4: is his fourth defensive coordinator. So that's that's what the
- 1:08:09Speaker 4: issue has been for defense and the inconsistencies there. But good,
- 1:08:13Speaker 4: good call. Appreciate that. Let's see if we have any
- 1:08:16Speaker 4: other callers, are we Chris? We got another caller?
- 1:08:19Speaker 1: Yeah, Jeremy and salt Lake. There we go. Jeremy salt Lake.
- 1:08:22Speaker 1: What's up, Bud?
- 1:08:23Speaker 12: Hey, what's going on?
- 1:08:24Speaker 16: Nick?
- 1:08:25Speaker 1: How are you?
- 1:08:26Speaker 19: I'm good?
- 1:08:27Speaker 12: I'm good.
- 1:08:28Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 1:08:28Speaker 12: I just kind of wanted to touch base, I knowing
- 1:08:30Speaker 12: in a lot of time here, so I'll try to
- 1:08:31Speaker 12: be quick. But as far as like I'd love how
- 1:08:36Speaker 12: after every year, you know, well free agency is going on.
- 1:08:41Speaker 12: We can be critical as we want, as far as
- 1:08:44Speaker 12: the front office is spending money not spending money. But
- 1:08:47Speaker 12: how about we look back at last year now and
- 1:08:50Speaker 12: look at all these signings that you know a lot
- 1:08:53Speaker 12: of Cowboys fans got upset about, you know, especially like
- 1:08:56Speaker 12: with the Commanders. You know, half the guys they signed
- 1:09:01Speaker 12: last year they're not bringing back, right, So this thing
- 1:09:05Speaker 12: can work two ways for you. You can go out and
- 1:09:07Speaker 12: spend all this money and then miss the playoffs like
- 1:09:10Speaker 12: Washington did and have a horrible season and then have no.
- 1:09:15Speaker 13: You know what I mean.
- 1:09:16Speaker 12: Now you're going to be paying all this dead money
- 1:09:17Speaker 12: from cutting all these players, So be careful what you
- 1:09:20Speaker 12: wish for. I guess is what you're saying. Is what
- 1:09:22Speaker 12: I'm saying, because there's there's two ends to every every
- 1:09:26Speaker 12: decision that you make. And it's easy for us to
- 1:09:28Speaker 12: sit back and second guess to the front office and
- 1:09:31Speaker 12: Jerry Cenile and over the hill all this kind of crap, right,
- 1:09:34Speaker 12: But at the end of the day, dude, go back
- 1:09:36Speaker 12: and look at the last three three four years, these
- 1:09:39Speaker 12: teams that really went out and made splash in free agency,
- 1:09:42Speaker 12: and did they really go anywhere? Did they really do
- 1:09:45Speaker 12: anything with it? So I just want us to make
- 1:09:47Speaker 12: the right signings, right, That's that's for me. So you know,
- 1:09:51Speaker 12: maybe not just get caught up in the numbers so much.
- 1:09:54Speaker 12: But like I said, I'll be brief, right, take it offline, take.
- 1:09:58Speaker 4: Reasbreak good call and uh, and you're exactly right. And
- 1:10:02Speaker 4: you don't even have to look at other teams. Just
- 1:10:05Speaker 4: look at the Cowboys. Just look at look at last year.
- 1:10:08Speaker 4: I wrote down some of the additions. I'm I think
- 1:10:10Speaker 4: I'm missing some here. But I have enough to work
- 1:10:15Speaker 4: with for sure. I have, you know, eight eight guys
- 1:10:18Speaker 4: that they they added, and and when you think about it, everything,
- 1:10:23Speaker 4: you know, there's good, there's bad, there's good, there's bad.
- 1:10:25Speaker 4: I mean that's it's about fifty percent just just last year.
- 1:10:29Speaker 4: You know who did they bring in? Well, they traded
- 1:10:32Speaker 4: for Pickens. Wow, Okay, we'll see, we'll see what he does.
- 1:10:36Speaker 4: He's been he's been kind of dynamic at times for Pittsburgh,
- 1:10:40Speaker 4: you know, a little different. Hopefully he fits with the
- 1:10:43Speaker 4: Cowboys well. And then fast forward. And then now they
- 1:10:46Speaker 4: franchise tag so that worked. Great move, Okay, well who
- 1:10:50Speaker 4: else they trade for? Kenneth Murray didn't work, didn't work
- 1:10:54Speaker 4: the same. He was out there, he was the best
- 1:10:56Speaker 4: that they had, but it wasn't It wasn't good enough.
- 1:10:59Speaker 4: They added you Ante what, Okay, Wow, great great pickup.
- 1:11:03Speaker 4: They added Jack Sanborn, Nah, not not so good. They
- 1:11:08Speaker 4: added Kayerrie Elam. He didn't even make it to the
- 1:11:12Speaker 4: end of the season. They added Joe Milton. Kind of
- 1:11:15Speaker 4: neutral on that. I think it worked. He was your
- 1:11:17Speaker 4: backup quarterback, so I think you would you would say
- 1:11:19Speaker 4: that that that worked. It helped that Dak played every
- 1:11:22Speaker 4: snap or every game. But but you know, I think
- 1:11:25Speaker 4: you could say that that that was pretty good move
- 1:11:27Speaker 4: there for him being the backup. Then in the middle
- 1:11:30Speaker 4: of the season, they traded for Logan Wilson. That didn't
- 1:11:32Speaker 4: really work. They traded for Quinn Williams. That did work,
- 1:11:35Speaker 4: and that's gonna be good. So my point is I
- 1:11:37Speaker 4: just named eight guys that but four of them you
- 1:11:39Speaker 4: would put over here is good decisions. Four of them
- 1:11:42Speaker 4: you said no, not so much. So going into free
- 1:11:44Speaker 4: agency this year, just remember that's probably what's gonna happen here.
- 1:11:49Speaker 4: I mean, you're you're gonna hit, You're gonna get some misses,
- 1:11:51Speaker 4: you're gonna get some wins, and I would expect that,
- 1:11:54Speaker 4: you know, I mean, you you want, you want to
- 1:11:56Speaker 4: do better than, you know than most, and you'd certainly
- 1:11:59Speaker 4: want to win more than and then you lose. But
- 1:12:01Speaker 4: just remember, even last year when they added Yavante, they
- 1:12:04Speaker 4: added Pickings, you could still say there were some moves
- 1:12:07Speaker 4: that are that were didn't work out, you know, so
- 1:12:10Speaker 4: well so, and I know there were some other guys.
- 1:12:12Speaker 4: Dante Fowler was also in there and you know, kind
- 1:12:15Speaker 4: of neutral there as well.
- 1:12:16Speaker 1: He didn't have he have a great season.
- 1:12:19Speaker 4: Then you can add Clowney later on and that that
- 1:12:21Speaker 4: did turn out to be good. So I really think
- 1:12:24Speaker 4: if you just keep playing this game, it's it's probably
- 1:12:26Speaker 4: it's gonna be fifty to fifty there. So hopefully the
- 1:12:29Speaker 4: Cowboys can improve on that. But but that's even in
- 1:12:31Speaker 4: a good year, it was still there were some misses
- 1:12:33Speaker 4: there too. Anyways, great great call was all day long.
- 1:12:37Speaker 1: Guys.
- 1:12:37Speaker 4: You guys did a great job. We had twelve calls.
- 1:12:40Speaker 4: Appreciate that. We'll be back to do it next week now,
- 1:12:43Speaker 4: next week it'll be the first day of free agencies,
- 1:12:46Speaker 4: so that that should be a lot of fun. And
- 1:12:48Speaker 4: there'll be a lot of things already kind of happening
- 1:12:50Speaker 4: that week, so that should be a fun show. Look
- 1:12:53Speaker 4: forward to that, all right, guys. For Chris Beam, I'm
- 1:12:56Speaker 4: Nick Keepan. We'll see next time. On Cowboys storyline has
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