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- 0:01Speaker 1: Piece of the planet. I go by the name of Charlot,
- 0:03Speaker 1: men to God and Uncle Sharlot Lenard, whatever you want
- 0:05Speaker 1: to call me. Santa Claus isn't real, but I am
- 0:08Speaker 1: and I gotta get for you. It's a brand new
- 0:10Speaker 1: podcast from the Black Effect Podcast Network. With the holidays here,
- 0:13Speaker 1: the Breakfast Club is gonna take a little break, but
- 0:15Speaker 1: we've got something for you. Okay. Check out this new
- 0:18Speaker 1: podcast from my loved ones, my leader activists, Tamica Mallory
- 0:23Speaker 1: and the good brother King my son the general host
- 0:26Speaker 1: the Street Politicians podcast, a show that takes an uninhibited
- 0:30Speaker 1: look at social and civil rights issues, pop culture, and politics.
- 0:34Speaker 1: Make sure you check out Street Politicians podcast on the
- 0:36Speaker 1: Black Effect wherever you get your podcasts. That's what's going on.
- 0:45Speaker 1: And I'm Tamika Danalory. Welcome to Street Politicians, to the
- 0:49Speaker 1: place where the streets and politics there is so much happening.
- 0:54Speaker 1: It's so good to always get back here every single week.
- 0:58Speaker 1: When to thank you all for following us and being
- 1:01Speaker 1: with us every week to hear about what's happening in
- 1:05Speaker 1: the streets, in politics, in our world, in society. I've
- 1:08Speaker 1: been saying over and over again that if Black people
- 1:11Speaker 1: don't tell our stories for us by us. Other people
- 1:14Speaker 1: will determine the narratives that our children here, and we
- 1:19Speaker 1: can't allow that to happen. You know, as a black woman,
- 1:22Speaker 1: I tell you this election cycle, as we have been
- 1:25Speaker 1: talking about every week, really it's like a decompressing people
- 1:29Speaker 1: actually need, That's what I'm saying. Well, you know, some
- 1:36Speaker 1: days I feel good. In other days I don't because
- 1:38Speaker 1: I'm telling you, but I just want you to know
- 1:40Speaker 1: that we acknowledge the work that you black queens have
- 1:43Speaker 1: been put in yeah, and you know, and you all
- 1:46Speaker 1: we want to just celebrate you. You know, I noticed
- 1:48Speaker 1: because I know that black women don't under attack, you
- 1:51Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So I want to be the
- 1:52Speaker 1: one to say as I sit next to black queens
- 1:56Speaker 1: that I know fights for our people wholeheardly every day.
- 1:59Speaker 1: I just want you to know that I see you
- 2:01Speaker 1: and I'm here for you. Do you do mice you?
- 2:04Speaker 1: You really do pour into the Black women around you.
- 2:07Speaker 1: When I think about the work that we did, everything
- 2:10Speaker 1: from Brianna Taylor her family, to all of our comrades
- 2:16Speaker 1: that have been with us on the road, the Leslie
- 2:19Speaker 1: Redman's of NAACP Wisconsin to Tiffany Lofting, nab ACP Youth
- 2:24Speaker 1: in College Director. I mean, I don't even want to
- 2:28Speaker 1: get myself in trouble. Lnita Baker, the amazing attorney for
- 2:32Speaker 1: Brianna Taylor's family, and the list goes on and on
- 2:36Speaker 1: of black women who are around us that you support
- 2:40Speaker 1: and you do a lot of great things. But I'm
- 2:41Speaker 1: just gonna tell you that, not just black women, but
- 2:44Speaker 1: I think black people in general need a detox and
- 2:48Speaker 1: some therapy, like some real counseling after this election, because
- 2:54Speaker 1: not only do we go through the stress and strain
- 2:58Speaker 1: of that if the administration at the time continues to
- 3:02Speaker 1: be in office, we already know what that means, but
- 3:06Speaker 1: it doesn't mean that a new administration was going to
- 3:10Speaker 1: change anything either. So it's like the stress of what
- 3:13Speaker 1: do we choose? Which way do we go? So we
- 3:15Speaker 1: had to deal with all of that, and then we
- 3:17Speaker 1: had to deal with knowing that whatever happens is on
- 3:20Speaker 1: our backs as black women. Of course black men second place,
- 3:25Speaker 1: we have to continue to say that, but you know,
- 3:28Speaker 1: with eighty percent of black men also well more than
- 3:32Speaker 1: that showing up at the polls, and so it's just
- 3:35Speaker 1: a lot, and I feel like I've been called out
- 3:38Speaker 1: my name, I've been accused, I've been threatened and all
- 3:42Speaker 1: of that, and it feels really heavy to be a
- 3:45Speaker 1: black woman who is carrying the load was so much,
- 3:50Speaker 1: you know, for our community. And the thing that I
- 3:52Speaker 1: think I struggle with, which is my thought of the
- 3:55Speaker 1: day today, is whether or not we should be going
- 4:01Speaker 1: to social media or any other form that is public
- 4:05Speaker 1: right around people, where people can see and hear it,
- 4:08Speaker 1: to talk to black men about how we feel. It's
- 4:12Speaker 1: almost like perhaps we should be keeping our pain just
- 4:18Speaker 1: in our homes or keeping it quiet. So I guess
- 4:20Speaker 1: a simple way of asking the question and the thought
- 4:23Speaker 1: of the day, it should we be airing out our
- 4:26Speaker 1: dirty laundry in terms of the relationship between black men
- 4:30Speaker 1: and black women. If you don't discuss it, it continues.
- 4:36Speaker 1: But if we do discuss it, it gives other people
- 4:40Speaker 1: an opportunity to use our vulnerabilities and our weaknesses against us.
- 4:45Speaker 1: And we know that that happened in this election cycle.
- 4:48Speaker 1: We know that marketing campaigns are created based upon people
- 4:54Speaker 1: watching the division in our communities and they use it
- 4:58Speaker 1: and they and they they what's the word? They expand
- 5:01Speaker 1: upon it or they that's not the word I'm looking for.
- 5:04Speaker 1: They exploit it, They exploit it for their interests. So
- 5:08Speaker 1: it's like, do we talk about it or do we
- 5:10Speaker 1: keep it to ourselves? Well, I think I think it's
- 5:13Speaker 1: like you said, it's a very slippery slope. You know,
- 5:15Speaker 1: I think as a black man, for me, when I'm
- 5:19Speaker 1: talking about my own issues, you know, I want I
- 5:22Speaker 1: want to be held accountable. You know, I'm not calling
- 5:25Speaker 1: out black women and say your black woman, you're not
- 5:27Speaker 1: doing this, and that I think that's dangerous. I think
- 5:30Speaker 1: that showed a division between black women and black man.
- 5:33Speaker 1: I think if like you've always said, y'all need to
- 5:36Speaker 1: go with and deal with, y'all don't tell black women
- 5:38Speaker 1: who we need to do, or white people don't tell
- 5:40Speaker 1: us who we need to do. You need to go
- 5:41Speaker 1: talk to your cousins and uncles. And I think I
- 5:43Speaker 1: started it started to resonate with me, like the thing,
- 5:46Speaker 1: the toxicity that we're dealing with in our communities. It
- 5:49Speaker 1: is black men things that we're dealing with and that
- 5:51Speaker 1: we're not addressing, that we continue to play out and
- 5:55Speaker 1: that's not changing within our communities, within the way we
- 5:58Speaker 1: deal with our women and the way we did with
- 5:59Speaker 1: each other. It's something that we gotta be held accountable
- 6:02Speaker 1: and we gotta we gotta utilize all forums that have
- 6:06Speaker 1: this conversation. It's easy to do it behind doors, but
- 6:10Speaker 1: when you publicly take responsibility for something that's going wrong
- 6:14Speaker 1: and saying you're as black men, you know, I don't
- 6:17Speaker 1: think we're doing all we can, and the brothers get mad, like,
- 6:20Speaker 1: don't say that you give an enemy. No, I'm older myself.
- 6:23Speaker 1: I'm not saying you, I'm saying we. I'm telling you
- 6:27Speaker 1: that even though I feel that I'm doing good, but
- 6:30Speaker 1: I feel like I'm not the majority. I don't represent
- 6:33Speaker 1: the majority. Was going on. I'm hearing black women talk
- 6:35Speaker 1: about how they feel around most black men. They're not
- 6:39Speaker 1: They don't feel safety, they don't feel like they always protected.
- 6:42Speaker 1: That's a problem for me, you know what I'm saying.
- 6:44Speaker 1: Even if every black woman around me is like, now,
- 6:46Speaker 1: you make us feel safe, but it's other people. I'm
- 6:49Speaker 1: not gonna say, well, I'm good. Don't put that on me. No,
- 6:51Speaker 1: because I'm a reflection. I don't see people want to
- 6:54Speaker 1: win with the team, but they don't want to lose
- 6:56Speaker 1: with the team. You know, people want to say, well,
- 6:58Speaker 1: don't tell me I had thirty five. And again, you
- 7:00Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, even though we lost thirty five,
- 7:02Speaker 1: and when you win the championship and you only had
- 7:04Speaker 1: two points, you'd be like, I don't care. We won
- 7:06Speaker 1: a championship, so they gotta be we when we went
- 7:08Speaker 1: in and we're losing. So that's what I say as
- 7:10Speaker 1: me For me, as black men, my duty is when
- 7:14Speaker 1: I see that we're lacking in something or I feel
- 7:16Speaker 1: like we can be doing better in something, to call
- 7:19Speaker 1: it out, to being held accountable, to say, hey, we
- 7:21Speaker 1: can be doing better, not saying that we all. We're
- 7:24Speaker 1: not all. There's no mono if we're not all doing anything,
- 7:27Speaker 1: but if we if we want to say black men,
- 7:30Speaker 1: this is black men are strong or black men are
- 7:32Speaker 1: strong and put ourselves in that category. Didn't say what
- 7:34Speaker 1: black men are doing something wrong too? Yeah, I think
- 7:36Speaker 1: that there is this this is challenge that we deal
- 7:40Speaker 1: with where a lot of black men and maybe black
- 7:45Speaker 1: women as well, when we talk about protecting black women,
- 7:50Speaker 1: we think about it from the perspective of I'm good
- 7:53Speaker 1: to my wife or my husband, or my brother or sister,
- 7:57Speaker 1: or people that are in my immediate circle, or people
- 8:00Speaker 1: may say you're not good to your white husband or
- 8:03Speaker 1: you know, people again in your immediate circle. But I
- 8:06Speaker 1: don't think that that's what we mean when we say
- 8:09Speaker 1: protect black women. That's this episode of Street Politicians is
- 8:14Speaker 1: called Protect Black Women, and we're kind of unpacking what
- 8:17Speaker 1: that means. Yes, we should be good to all of us,
- 8:20Speaker 1: should be good to everyone, but we're human, and in
- 8:23Speaker 1: relationships and other situations families, you have challenges, you have debate,
- 8:29Speaker 1: you have circumstances. But what we're talking about is as
- 8:33Speaker 1: a community, as a whole, how do we really make
- 8:38Speaker 1: ensure that we are not inflicting more damage and harm
- 8:43Speaker 1: systemically on our people too? Yeah? Individually absolutely, But for
- 8:51Speaker 1: me it's like if I see young boys sitting by
- 8:55Speaker 1: watching while a girl is being beat up and either
- 9:00Speaker 1: by their friend or by someone else, and they're not
- 9:03Speaker 1: intervening enough to say, hey, you know this is not right,
- 9:07Speaker 1: because this is what I hear, This is what I hear,
- 9:09Speaker 1: especially when I'm watching these videos on social media and
- 9:12Speaker 1: you see a girl and she's being attacked by you know,
- 9:15Speaker 1: by a black man or by any man, Well, what
- 9:18Speaker 1: does she do to cause that? On herself. That's what
- 9:21Speaker 1: I mean. That's like, it's a it's a it's a
- 9:24Speaker 1: twisted systemic mindset that if the black woman is being harmed,
- 9:30Speaker 1: she caused it somehow. That's very different from me saying, well,
- 9:35Speaker 1: you know, my mother and I don't get along, you know,
- 9:39Speaker 1: like my son and I have our challenges at time. Yes,
- 9:43Speaker 1: those are relationship things that have to be solved, but
- 9:46Speaker 1: we're talking about how we as a community really wrap
- 9:50Speaker 1: our arms around black women. And perhaps both things go
- 9:53Speaker 1: hand in hand. That you can't treat your community well
- 9:56Speaker 1: if you don't have good relationships with your own family members.
- 9:59Speaker 1: But it feels like we're in a place where people
- 10:03Speaker 1: people remove themselves from being a part of the weed
- 10:07Speaker 1: because their personal life is together. So and then it's
- 10:10Speaker 1: like when you're saying it, they're like, oh, I protect
- 10:13Speaker 1: black women. You know, I fight for mine. It's not
- 10:16Speaker 1: you fighting for yours, it's us fighting for one another.
- 10:19Speaker 1: And black women have continuously shown up for black men,
- 10:23Speaker 1: and I think I think for me. You know, this
- 10:25Speaker 1: whole Megda Stallion and Tory Lanes thing right really put
- 10:28Speaker 1: it in a different perspective. You know. I was always like,
- 10:32Speaker 1: we need to protect black women and we need to
- 10:33Speaker 1: stand up, you know. Yeah, but you and I had
- 10:36Speaker 1: a number because I was one of the people that
- 10:39Speaker 1: felt like, don't say me because it's not me. And
- 10:42Speaker 1: then I started to realize it's a collective. We all.
- 10:45Speaker 1: We can't say black people. This is black people that
- 10:47Speaker 1: didn't want to separate ourselves when it's not conducive every time,
- 10:51Speaker 1: you know, So I started to acknowledge it. I give
- 10:54Speaker 1: you a little props for just a little bit, but
- 10:57Speaker 1: not too much, not too much corner. I got a
- 11:00Speaker 1: little crazy crazy, like she really did. But the reality
- 11:03Speaker 1: is when I watch the situation, will make the stallion
- 11:07Speaker 1: and seeing how many people would just come out of
- 11:09Speaker 1: nowhere saying that be is lying, she's a liar, He
- 11:13Speaker 1: didn't do this to her. And it just was like why,
- 11:17Speaker 1: like why, why would you just assume that a woman
- 11:20Speaker 1: who got bullet fragments in her foot and done that
- 11:26Speaker 1: he didn't shoot. Why would you think that she would
- 11:28Speaker 1: just create a whole story? What what about your reality
- 11:31Speaker 1: or your upbringing or your understanding of a black woman.
- 11:34Speaker 1: What has she done prior to this to make you
- 11:37Speaker 1: just instantly call her liar? Well, it's because so much
- 11:41Speaker 1: of how we are viewed as black women is based
- 11:45Speaker 1: upon and I think it's on both sides. The few
- 11:49Speaker 1: who are liars who lie on black man who you know,
- 11:54Speaker 1: say that he beat me when he didn't. You know,
- 11:56Speaker 1: she's a she's a tramp, she's a this, you know whatever,
- 11:59Speaker 1: all of those things, the negativity. I think that there
- 12:02Speaker 1: are some that have had those interactions and and even
- 12:06Speaker 1: have had mothers that were not really good to them,
- 12:09Speaker 1: or mothers that they just hate for whatever reason, and
- 12:11Speaker 1: therefore they translate that onto the whole. But what we
- 12:15Speaker 1: know is that nine times out of ten, no I
- 12:20Speaker 1: don't even know of a man, period, but I'm just
- 12:23Speaker 1: gonna say nine times out of ten, Black women or
- 12:26Speaker 1: women in general, are not gonna just say somebody shot them,
- 12:29Speaker 1: that did shoot. You might say he hit me and
- 12:32Speaker 1: he didn't, or he choked me, or he you know whatever,
- 12:35Speaker 1: those things. We can go back and forth. But he
- 12:38Speaker 1: shot me and he didn't shoot me, like it doesn't
- 12:41Speaker 1: even you shot and you shot well no, no, no,
- 12:45Speaker 1: they said she wasn't really even shot. Got a doctor,
- 12:52Speaker 1: She paid the doctor. You don't know, why why would
- 12:55Speaker 1: she paid the doctor? Why would she pay the doctor?
- 12:58Speaker 1: Put the bullet frames in her foot, all that stuff,
- 13:01Speaker 1: so she can lie on that and then people Then
- 13:03Speaker 1: there was a guy who had no face, know nothing,
- 13:10Speaker 1: and he said he was the security and he was there.
- 13:12Speaker 1: He told a whole story about it, and people actually
- 13:15Speaker 1: believe what he said. They don't know who it was.
- 13:19Speaker 1: They made up a whole story, said her best friend
- 13:21Speaker 1: says she was there. That never happened. It's just it's
- 13:24Speaker 1: just so much stuff. Man, I don't think it really.
- 13:26Speaker 1: It disheartened me. It just it really shows us. It
- 13:29Speaker 1: is disheart to name it is. It was disheartening. It
- 13:33Speaker 1: is disheartening for me. So it's really, you know, protecting
- 13:38Speaker 1: black women is the order of the day, and we
- 13:41Speaker 1: have to keep talking about it. And I know people
- 13:42Speaker 1: probably tired it, but they feel like we always but
- 13:44Speaker 1: if we continue to exactly if we don't, if nothing changes,
- 13:48Speaker 1: nothing changes, and talk about it. But somehow or another,
- 13:52Speaker 1: we still got to figure out when it's the right moment.
- 13:55Speaker 1: You know, that's a fact. And speaking of Mega Stallion,
- 13:58Speaker 1: first of all, she had me in that incredible, incredible
- 14:01Speaker 1: performance on Saturday Night Live, which I didn't even know
- 14:05Speaker 1: when someone text me and told me about it. Attorney
- 14:08Speaker 1: Linita Baker. I was like, oh, that's big, as if
- 14:11Speaker 1: it was about someone else, because I just couldn't even
- 14:14Speaker 1: wrap my head around you know how powerful that moment
- 14:17Speaker 1: was for her to include my voice in her performance
- 14:20Speaker 1: and shout out to Kevin Laws who is our board
- 14:22Speaker 1: member until freedom and making that happen, and you know,
- 14:28Speaker 1: mag like anytime right like coming up, listen. You know,
- 14:33Speaker 1: I don't I believe that. You know, you have a
- 14:35Speaker 1: lot going on. We just want you to know that
- 14:37Speaker 1: anything you need from us, you know, you can utilize
- 14:40Speaker 1: our platform if you need us individually as unique whatever man,
- 14:44Speaker 1: we want to protect black women. I believe you. I
- 14:47Speaker 1: don't believe you made up no story about somebody shooting you.
- 14:50Speaker 1: So I don't want to. I know, I see the
- 14:51Speaker 1: trolls and I just wondered to myself, what is this
- 14:54Speaker 1: woman dealing with? How does she feel after she was
- 14:56Speaker 1: shot and she has to explain and have to defend
- 15:00Speaker 1: herself about somebody hurting hers. So, you know, I just
- 15:02Speaker 1: want you to know that we are with you and
- 15:04Speaker 1: you politicians, and you know I've had dinner with meg Um.
- 15:10Speaker 1: You know, unless she's completely like a psychopath who was
- 15:15Speaker 1: able to change personalities right before your eyes. I personally
- 15:20Speaker 1: do not believe that the young woman that I sat
- 15:22Speaker 1: and talked to and spent time with just made up
- 15:25Speaker 1: a story about who shot. That's just me. But that's
- 15:28Speaker 1: not what we're here for to deliberate a legal matter.
- 15:33Speaker 1: It ain't even legal. It's ethical for me. Like the
- 15:35Speaker 1: legal part is whether he go to jail or whether
- 15:37Speaker 1: they say he did it. The ethic part is me
- 15:40Speaker 1: knowing that a man harmed a woman and trying to
- 15:42Speaker 1: lie in act like he did. That's just ethics for me,
- 15:44Speaker 1: and every other man should hold that man accountable. Like,
- 15:47Speaker 1: don't let no nigga around you sit around doing no
- 15:49Speaker 1: sucker shit and you ain't checking. Okay, well, don't letting
- 15:56Speaker 1: no black man, no brother, green anything sit around you.
- 16:03Speaker 1: You're still say no colored people, no colored people sit
- 16:07Speaker 1: around you and doing supper ship to women and getting
- 16:10Speaker 1: away with it. Man, if you condone suching ship that
- 16:13Speaker 1: you are suffer to, yeah, for real. That brings us
- 16:16Speaker 1: to one of my brothers brother that I think is
- 16:18Speaker 1: a dope comedian slash actor. You know, he put out
- 16:22Speaker 1: this dope video about black women. He didn't talking about
- 16:26Speaker 1: how he loves black women. And it touched our souls.
- 16:29Speaker 1: So we was like, we gotta bring him up here,
- 16:30Speaker 1: especially when we're talking about this topic. And that is
- 16:33Speaker 1: none other than my brother Afion Crockett. So he's going
- 16:36Speaker 1: to be with us in a minute to join us
- 16:38Speaker 1: and expound on this topic about protecting black women and
- 16:41Speaker 1: loving black women and what it means to him. Yeah,
- 16:44Speaker 1: And in our activist segments today, speaking of protecting black women,
- 16:48Speaker 1: we're gonna be hearing from a young lady who we
- 16:50Speaker 1: affectionately called kJ. You all saw her in the viral
- 16:55Speaker 1: video where she is standing before the Board of Police
- 16:58Speaker 1: Commissioners in Kansas City. Uh, and she's really speaking truth
- 17:04Speaker 1: to power in the raw it's way. She said she
- 17:07Speaker 1: ain't nice, which we get into ain't nice. She says
- 17:11Speaker 1: that she's she ain't nice, which we will get into
- 17:13Speaker 1: and talk to her about because that was that's a
- 17:17Speaker 1: ball though. She's like, I didn't come here to be
- 17:19Speaker 1: politically direct. That's not what I came to do, and
- 17:21Speaker 1: that's just what it has to be at this time.
- 17:23Speaker 1: A young black woman, Caasia Brooks, who was an activist
- 17:28Speaker 1: in Kansas City, So we're gonna be talking to her
- 17:30Speaker 1: as well. So before we go to the next segment
- 17:33Speaker 1: and have our special guests joint. We're gonna take a
- 17:35Speaker 1: quick break for our sponsors. But before you ask this question,
- 17:42Speaker 1: don't let my presence affect you, all right, What question is,
- 17:46Speaker 1: what'd you date a black girl? I like black girls
- 17:48Speaker 1: to an extent. The next time, let's say that the
- 17:51Speaker 1: skin tone. Yeah, okay, we're kind of black guys, either
- 17:54Speaker 1: my complexion or lighter. I'm doca. So you want to
- 17:58Speaker 1: talk to me? No, wow? I remember when you thought
- 18:04Speaker 1: I was crazy when I used to tell you that,
- 18:07Speaker 1: you know, darker skinned girls, even at my complexion, are
- 18:12Speaker 1: just not as desirable, if you will, to some men.
- 18:17Speaker 1: And and and what's painful is that sometimes it's black men.
- 18:22Speaker 1: A lot of times it's black men who sort of
- 18:24Speaker 1: look at us and say that the darker we are,
- 18:27Speaker 1: as you saw in the video, We're mean we are,
- 18:31Speaker 1: you know, just not as cute and attractive to our
- 18:35Speaker 1: own men. So it's really the sentiment is really painful
- 18:40Speaker 1: to hear. And I think that the young woman in
- 18:43Speaker 1: this video knew the answers already. That's why she went
- 18:46Speaker 1: out to do this experiment, because she could probably feel herself. Yeah,
- 18:51Speaker 1: I mean I get it, and I've learned a lot lately.
- 18:54Speaker 1: I think growing up for me, I don't think I
- 18:56Speaker 1: think there was a stigma like, oh you wanted to
- 18:59Speaker 1: get the poor Rikan girl or light skin girl used
- 19:01Speaker 1: to say it, But I don't think people was like
- 19:03Speaker 1: they just didn't like dark skin girls. Like now I'm
- 19:05Speaker 1: hearing that I'm just not attracted to dark skin girls.
- 19:08Speaker 1: You hadn't actually dark skinned dudes this Midnight Black talking
- 19:12Speaker 1: about they don't want no dark skinned girls. So it's like,
- 19:14Speaker 1: I think, you know, it's a it's a product of slavery,
- 19:17Speaker 1: you know, it's it's it's trauma. It's a thing that
- 19:20Speaker 1: we've been taught that darker we are, that the less
- 19:24Speaker 1: we are that, you know. So I think, yeah, we're
- 19:26Speaker 1: actually feeding into it. You don't remember it, but and
- 19:29Speaker 1: maybe you know, maybe our next guests can talk about
- 19:31Speaker 1: it a little a little bit. But even in school days, right,
- 19:36Speaker 1: there was clearly in that movie that we love, right,
- 19:40Speaker 1: everybody's on school days. But if you think about the
- 19:42Speaker 1: colorism issues in that movie and the split between the
- 19:47Speaker 1: lighter skinned girls who would look at as being cool,
- 19:49Speaker 1: and that was t Sha Campbell and Jasmine Guy and
- 19:52Speaker 1: then you had the darker skinned girls who were so
- 19:54Speaker 1: who they called You're just a jiggaboo and no, the jiggaboos,
- 19:59Speaker 1: I think the lighting girls. You know, the jiggaboos was
- 20:03Speaker 1: the dark skin and the one of these was the
- 20:04Speaker 1: light skin. Oh oh, okay, right, you just don't want
- 20:07Speaker 1: to be you want to be white, okay, exactly. So
- 20:09Speaker 1: see you remember that. Remember that was Spike Lee's whole thing.
- 20:13Speaker 1: I grew up around in a multi culture in front
- 20:16Speaker 1: of Bronx. It was so multi cultural, and a lot
- 20:19Speaker 1: of my family members with dark skin, you know, or
- 20:21Speaker 1: a light skin or brown skin. The first girl that
- 20:24Speaker 1: I ever was attracted to in elementary school was really
- 20:28Speaker 1: dark skinned. So you know, for me, I don't I
- 20:30Speaker 1: don't think I really paid that much attention. A lot
- 20:32Speaker 1: of my dudes actually liked the same girl that I
- 20:34Speaker 1: was attracted too. She was like the prettiest dark skin
- 20:37Speaker 1: chick that you ever see in the same So I
- 20:39Speaker 1: understand now, I see that it's happening now, So we're
- 20:42Speaker 1: gonna bring my brother, you know, comedian actor extraordinaire, you know,
- 20:47Speaker 1: one of the funniest guys that I know. You know,
- 20:51Speaker 1: every time I see him play a role or do
- 20:54Speaker 1: some type of characters like this hilarious man. He put
- 20:58Speaker 1: out this video just talking about how much he loves
- 21:01Speaker 1: black women. So we're gonna bring if on Crockett on
- 21:04Speaker 1: here to have this conversation with us. What's up, King,
- 21:06Speaker 1: How are you doing today? Fuck? King and Queen? How
- 21:08Speaker 1: y'all going on? Thanks for joining. Look, I'm honored when
- 21:13Speaker 1: when your names came across my email and my publicists,
- 21:17Speaker 1: you know, feel feel different requests or whatever. I was like, immediately,
- 21:22Speaker 1: those my people right there, let's go. I can't imagine
- 21:31Speaker 1: what this country would be like without black women. I
- 21:33Speaker 1: mean they've been on the front line. They set the stage,
- 21:36Speaker 1: they cried to tears, they fought the fights of everything
- 21:40Speaker 1: that was right. You're our mothers, our sisters, our wives
- 21:43Speaker 1: and daughters. Black woman. I loved Black Room. I loved
- 21:49Speaker 1: so much. So what made you do the video? I
- 21:52Speaker 1: mean we needed it. Let me just tell you it
- 21:55Speaker 1: was really appreciated. I know I needed to hear, um,
- 21:58Speaker 1: black men's actually the little black boy who I saw
- 22:02Speaker 1: in the video. I needed to hear that you all
- 22:05Speaker 1: love black women and we know it. Of course we
- 22:08Speaker 1: know black men love us, but if you let the
- 22:10Speaker 1: media tell it. There's such a stigma and there's so
- 22:13Speaker 1: much division between us, and so it's great that you
- 22:16Speaker 1: use media to dispel the myth. Yeah. I mean, look,
- 22:19Speaker 1: that's a long conversation, but I mean, let's start it
- 22:23Speaker 1: for me. I just it's just so blatant how we
- 22:27Speaker 1: are depicted in the news, the media and movies and TV.
- 22:31Speaker 1: And you know, it's always slaved this and oppressed version
- 22:36Speaker 1: of that. And I'm as an artist, I'm tired of it. Right,
- 22:40Speaker 1: but in our society. Right, there was a video by
- 22:43Speaker 1: my Black is Beautiful years ago of all these beautiful
- 22:48Speaker 1: black women saying I love you black man, and it
- 22:52Speaker 1: was amazing. I was watching that Journe I felt love.
- 22:55Speaker 1: I was like, wow, that's that's amazing to hear. And
- 22:57Speaker 1: in the back of my mind, I was like, oh,
- 22:59Speaker 1: they gotta have a male version of this too, right,
- 23:02Speaker 1: And about a year when by and I never saw
- 23:04Speaker 1: the video, So I was like, yo, I just felt compelled.
- 23:08Speaker 1: I have a lot of black friends. They got sisters,
- 23:11Speaker 1: you know, and I know how these sisters feel that
- 23:17Speaker 1: black men overlooked them. So I was like, let me
- 23:19Speaker 1: get all the black men together that I know. So
- 23:22Speaker 1: that we can actually voice it. Because it's one thing
- 23:25Speaker 1: to think it and to be in your own bubble
- 23:28Speaker 1: and to just know what you know, but to verbalize
- 23:31Speaker 1: something as powerful as saying I love you black woman,
- 23:33Speaker 1: you just never know how far that can go. Yeah,
- 23:37Speaker 1: we appreciate it. Man. I was having an argument, but
- 23:40Speaker 1: a guy like you said that there are stigmas, and
- 23:43Speaker 1: there is a lot of people who don't even understand
- 23:47Speaker 1: the reality we're dealing with. You know, there's a lot
- 23:49Speaker 1: of black men who are blind to the fact that
- 23:52Speaker 1: what they believe is loving a black women, or the
- 23:54Speaker 1: way that they loving a black woman is not sometimes
- 23:57Speaker 1: not the way that they want to be loved, you know,
- 23:59Speaker 1: And we gotta so having those conversations too. So while
- 24:02Speaker 1: seeing you put out this video just empowered me. It
- 24:05Speaker 1: made me feel like, you know, they're all other brothers
- 24:07Speaker 1: who understand the need to make our sisters and you know,
- 24:11Speaker 1: our mothers and our women, just black women in general
- 24:13Speaker 1: just feel loved. Man. So I think it was really timely.
- 24:16Speaker 1: I remember one day my song was arguing with the
- 24:20Speaker 1: guy they were debating, and the guy started to say
- 24:24Speaker 1: what And the whole point was Mice was saying, we
- 24:27Speaker 1: need to protect black women. We've got to do better.
- 24:30Speaker 1: And you know, there were so many men who came
- 24:33Speaker 1: at him like, you know, we do protect our women.
- 24:36Speaker 1: But the conversation with this one particular person boiled down
- 24:40Speaker 1: to him believing that if he beats his woman, right,
- 24:44Speaker 1: but then he fights someone else who made disrespect her,
- 24:47Speaker 1: he is protecting her. And it was so difficult to
- 24:51Speaker 1: get him to understand. And of course for us, it's
- 24:54Speaker 1: like he just must be some idiot. We don't got
- 24:56Speaker 1: to deal with it. But again, his page was full
- 25:00Speaker 1: of men who actually supported that stuff. You know, it
- 25:04Speaker 1: was like it was it was almost like trendy at
- 25:07Speaker 1: the moment. Yeah, we got a lot of work to do. Yeah,
- 25:11Speaker 1: as as a community, like it's really it's really a
- 25:13Speaker 1: lost mindset to love black women and for black people
- 25:18Speaker 1: to love ourselves. And again, I can point to all
- 25:21Speaker 1: the reasons why we are conditioned to not love ourselves
- 25:25Speaker 1: and how I mean even down to the George Floyd
- 25:28Speaker 1: tape and every other tape that we've seen black people
- 25:30Speaker 1: getting murdered. Right, that is a clear message, that is
- 25:33Speaker 1: a clear statement that they want to send to us.
- 25:37Speaker 1: This is how we view you, this is how you
- 25:39Speaker 1: should view yourself and so you shouldn't care when y'all
- 25:42Speaker 1: killing each other, and when you know a young black
- 25:45Speaker 1: dude that is hitting a young black woman in a
- 25:47Speaker 1: face with a skateboard, like you shouldn't care, and that
- 25:51Speaker 1: that's the stuff that bothers me is knowing how long
- 25:54Speaker 1: of a conversation that is to try to get the
- 25:58Speaker 1: hope is to get our men, first of all, to
- 26:00Speaker 1: understand that concept. We had to love and protect all
- 26:04Speaker 1: black women in a real way, not in just you know,
- 26:07Speaker 1: four weeks and hashtag about it. Right. And when you
- 26:10Speaker 1: when you said George Floyd, what it brought up for
- 26:14Speaker 1: me immediately is hearing him call for his black mother, right,
- 26:18Speaker 1: Like everybody knows that the black woman gives life, not
- 26:22Speaker 1: that all women don't, but we're talking about black people
- 26:25Speaker 1: right now. So the black woman gives life, and that
- 26:27Speaker 1: we carry everybody struggles on our back. We carry everybody struggles. Right.
- 26:32Speaker 1: We're just thinking about this election. We were talking about
- 26:35Speaker 1: that earlier, that ninety plus percent of black women continue
- 26:40Speaker 1: to show up and save the country and also be
- 26:45Speaker 1: major supporters of the Democratic Party. Whether we are being
- 26:48Speaker 1: treated fairly and given the resources and attention that we
- 26:52Speaker 1: deserve or not, but we keep doing it over and
- 26:54Speaker 1: over again. And you were saying, well, black men also, Yeah,
- 26:59Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. You know, we want to we
- 27:01Speaker 1: want to give credit. You know, black women definitely saved
- 27:04Speaker 1: the day everything, but we came in second place this time.
- 27:06Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. We definitely came in second place.
- 27:08Speaker 1: But for me, it's like, how do how do we
- 27:11Speaker 1: find this balance I felt and where we hold ourselves
- 27:15Speaker 1: accountable right for what we understand is wrong because I
- 27:18Speaker 1: put myself in it, even though I feel like I'm
- 27:20Speaker 1: one of the biggest protectors and lovers of black women ever,
- 27:24Speaker 1: I say we need to do better, and then there's
- 27:26Speaker 1: this pushback from black men that I'm feeding into a
- 27:30Speaker 1: narrative that we're not already doing it. And then I'm
- 27:33Speaker 1: trying to explain to them that I'm having conversations with
- 27:36Speaker 1: black women who don't feel loved, who don't feel like
- 27:39Speaker 1: we're protecting them. So how do how do we How
- 27:41Speaker 1: do you think it is that we balance between not
- 27:44Speaker 1: feeding into a narrative but still holding ourselves accountable. Man,
- 27:48Speaker 1: It's about ownership, you know what I mean. It's not
- 27:51Speaker 1: enough for me and mice to love our black women
- 27:55Speaker 1: and protect and have this mindset. We have to say
- 27:59Speaker 1: we we as black men, as the whole, we're all
- 28:02Speaker 1: responsible because we haven't been perfect, you know what I mean,
- 28:05Speaker 1: Like I've never beat on a woman, but that doesn't
- 28:07Speaker 1: mean that I haven't gotten into an argument and caught
- 28:09Speaker 1: crazy or you know, gotten mad and whatever. That thing is, right,
- 28:13Speaker 1: So we have to first own that we all got
- 28:16Speaker 1: to do it, and we got to start having real conversations,
- 28:19Speaker 1: if it's forums, if it's if it's meetings of post COVID.
- 28:23Speaker 1: Black men got to stop being sold in the ah man,
- 28:26Speaker 1: don't tell me what to do. We already doing that,
- 28:28Speaker 1: like nah, but you might be doing it, but we
- 28:32Speaker 1: collectively are not doing it. So we gotta take our
- 28:36Speaker 1: ego aside and be like no, no, no, yeah, I
- 28:38Speaker 1: take care of my lady. But you know, the community
- 28:41Speaker 1: of black men have failed the black woman. Well we
- 28:45Speaker 1: have to. And and by the way, they are young
- 28:48Speaker 1: black boys who are coming up behind you. Or I
- 28:50Speaker 1: have a young son who's twenty one years old, and
- 28:53Speaker 1: sometimes the challenges that we go through, you can see
- 28:57Speaker 1: that he has gotten too comfortable. You know, learn from
- 29:00Speaker 1: society that it's okay to like go off when you
- 29:03Speaker 1: want to on your black mother. And he and I
- 29:06Speaker 1: have had many conversations about respecting your mother. But he
- 29:10Speaker 1: is not alone. This is a sort of a trend
- 29:13Speaker 1: among many of my black women friends where they're talking
- 29:17Speaker 1: about the relationships with their son. And of course, my
- 29:20Speaker 1: son loves me to death or to life, but it
- 29:23Speaker 1: is something that needs to be dealt with now. The
- 29:25Speaker 1: next time we talk, we got to deal with how
- 29:28Speaker 1: Kamala Harris being on the presidential ticket impacted the amount
- 29:34Speaker 1: of black men who voted for Trump and against the
- 29:38Speaker 1: Democratic Party. That's another conversation, but we may not have
- 29:42Speaker 1: time to talk about that today. Yeah. I mean, look,
- 29:46Speaker 1: Joe was a wild boy, but he's smart enough to
- 29:51Speaker 1: know when to pick the right running mate, and Kamala
- 29:55Speaker 1: was perfect, and that positions her to potentially be the
- 29:58Speaker 1: first president. We already had our first black president, of course,
- 30:03Speaker 1: and Barack and it also helped that Barrock was on
- 30:06Speaker 1: the running trail with them, on the promotional trail, the
- 30:10Speaker 1: campaign trail. But yeah, Kamala is gonna be She was
- 30:14Speaker 1: the perfect person to increase that support of black voters
- 30:18Speaker 1: and black women. Again, we love you black women, you
- 30:22Speaker 1: got we ain't got no choice with the love black women.
- 30:24Speaker 1: I just want to know, you know, when we talk
- 30:26Speaker 1: about this subject and I get so much back and forth,
- 30:30Speaker 1: like I've done probably I did um Nick Cannon show
- 30:34Speaker 1: when we was talking about black women and how we
- 30:36Speaker 1: need to protect black women, and I was just owning
- 30:38Speaker 1: up for things that I might have done wrong. And
- 30:41Speaker 1: it was so many people just beating me up, like
- 30:43Speaker 1: black man a y'all nobody want to hear this, and
- 30:45Speaker 1: black women done this and black women ain't perfect. You know.
- 30:48Speaker 1: We talked about Meg the Stallion and Tory and he
- 30:51Speaker 1: like she gotta be lying and Tory didn't do nothing
- 30:54Speaker 1: a hug that beast TC And it's like, are we
- 30:58Speaker 1: dealing with a trauma? Is there is? Where do you
- 31:00Speaker 1: think this anger is coming from? That that you see
- 31:04Speaker 1: this especially shows up in this generation, Like where do
- 31:08Speaker 1: you think this anger is coming from? From black man?
- 31:10Speaker 1: You know, victim shaming comes from, first of all, lack
- 31:14Speaker 1: of ownership. And you're right, as trauma, you know, no
- 31:18Speaker 1: man who's hurt, who's been hurt, wants to admit that
- 31:24Speaker 1: there's you know, there's some healing to be done. So
- 31:26Speaker 1: that's Another thing is black man, we don't know that
- 31:30Speaker 1: we need to heal, nor do we have the confidence
- 31:34Speaker 1: and the security to go heal and go sit with
- 31:37Speaker 1: a therapist and really correct your traumas and heal your traumas,
- 31:42Speaker 1: because there's always gonna be that conversation. There's always gonna
- 31:46Speaker 1: be that backlash every time one of us says we
- 31:49Speaker 1: love black women. All they're gonna be able to do
- 31:51Speaker 1: is point the finger and be like, yeah, but all
- 31:52Speaker 1: the black women I knew did this to me, and
- 31:55Speaker 1: and they they aggressive, and they this, and they that.
- 31:58Speaker 1: You know what I mean, But that all comes from
- 32:01Speaker 1: a pain place. So of all you remember and all
- 32:04Speaker 1: you know is the times that a black woman did
- 32:07Speaker 1: something to hurt you, as opposed to being a man
- 32:09Speaker 1: and manning up and healing yourself and seeking that that forgiveness. Also,
- 32:15Speaker 1: all you're gonna do is keep pointing fingers, and when
- 32:18Speaker 1: your finger point it's gonna make you not look at
- 32:20Speaker 1: all the crazy stuff you did to the black woman.
- 32:23Speaker 1: So I think that's where that feedback come from. It's
- 32:25Speaker 1: trauma and it's lack of ownership. Ownership is a is
- 32:29Speaker 1: a very important concept that a lot of us don't practice.
- 32:34Speaker 1: I definitely agree with that. Well, you know, we can
- 32:37Speaker 1: have this conversation old day. We probably need to do
- 32:39Speaker 1: like a roundtable with just black men and black women
- 32:42Speaker 1: and just talk talk through these subjects and just get
- 32:45Speaker 1: everybody's perspective and understands. But once again, man, thank you
- 32:49Speaker 1: for being here. Thank you for you know, grace and
- 32:51Speaker 1: our presidents and street politicians with your knowledge. When we
- 32:55Speaker 1: see that video, we like, we definitely got to bring
- 32:57Speaker 1: a fian on here, man, And I want to thank
- 32:59Speaker 1: you personally for always supporting me, you know, for always
- 33:02Speaker 1: being there, always give a showing me love on my
- 33:04Speaker 1: page and everything. So continue to do the work, brother man.
- 33:08Speaker 1: It's only a few of us out here that really,
- 33:09Speaker 1: you know, that aren't afraid to take accountability, aren't afraid
- 33:13Speaker 1: to speak truth to power and you know, and deal
- 33:16Speaker 1: with whatever comes with that. So once again we want
- 33:18Speaker 1: to say thank you for being here. Thanks so much
- 33:21Speaker 1: for joining us on street politicians. You know, this is
- 33:23Speaker 1: an endeavor for us that we really want to see
- 33:27Speaker 1: grow and provide voice for what's happening in the streets
- 33:30Speaker 1: and in politics within our communities. So it was so
- 33:33Speaker 1: great to have you as one of our first guests. Well,
- 33:36Speaker 1: let me say this to both of y'all. I appreciate
- 33:40Speaker 1: y'all being front lines. Hands down, y'all are both front lines.
- 33:45Speaker 1: Y'all are putting yourselves not you know, you're not pulling
- 33:50Speaker 1: other people and putting them in the front. You too,
- 33:53Speaker 1: are putting yourselves on the front line. You're getting arrested
- 33:56Speaker 1: and saluting my brother trade the truth, that's my brother.
- 33:59Speaker 1: I appreciate y'all putting yourselves on the front line for
- 34:03Speaker 1: the cause, for the people, and God bless y'all. May
- 34:06Speaker 1: y'all stay protected because I know y'all are going back
- 34:09Speaker 1: out there whenever something else happens, um, because we all
- 34:12Speaker 1: have a position to fight in this in this battle.
- 34:14Speaker 1: But you guys are have determined that you guys are
- 34:16Speaker 1: gonna be frontline and put your hands to the plow.
- 34:19Speaker 1: So I salute y'all. We need y'all and my song
- 34:23Speaker 1: you wanted the greatest mcs man. I just want to
- 34:25Speaker 1: shout your your bar came up your pocket, your rhythm. Subscribe,
- 34:30Speaker 1: he's a scribe, he's ascribed. You know, she looked the
- 34:34Speaker 1: black woman. Look, this is what they're talking about. Y'all
- 34:39Speaker 1: can't give a black man she knows. She knows what
- 34:42Speaker 1: I do, but I appreciate you. If you're on for
- 34:44Speaker 1: the Love Man, thank you continue to do the work.
- 34:46Speaker 1: We appreciate your love and we look forward to seeing you.
- 34:52Speaker 1: So before we go to the next segment and have
- 34:54Speaker 1: our special guests joint, we're gonna take a quick break
- 34:57Speaker 1: for our sponsors, so a street politicians, activists have a
- 35:06Speaker 1: home with us. We want to make sure that on
- 35:09Speaker 1: every episode we catch up with activists and organizers around
- 35:14Speaker 1: the country who are doing great work on the ground
- 35:17Speaker 1: and make sure that we give them an opportunity to
- 35:20Speaker 1: tell their stories and to ensure that the narratives around
- 35:24Speaker 1: what is happening comes directly from people who are engaged
- 35:28Speaker 1: and who are actively working to make change. And so
- 35:32Speaker 1: this young sister who we affectionately call kJ you all
- 35:37Speaker 1: know her as key Asia Brooks. We saw her at
- 35:40Speaker 1: a police council meeting or a police commissioner meeting where
- 35:46Speaker 1: the board members who actually control the Kansas City Police
- 35:51Speaker 1: Department where they were meeting and the public was able
- 35:55Speaker 1: to make statements. And she went before this council of
- 35:58Speaker 1: individuals and really spoke truth to power. But he was
- 36:03Speaker 1: on a point she was she said, I'm not nice, right,
- 36:06Speaker 1: She started out like that, I'm not nice, and I
- 36:11Speaker 1: don't seek to be respectable. So I'm not here begging
- 36:14Speaker 1: anything of soulless white folks and self preserving black folks.
- 36:19Speaker 1: You get one life, and you all in this room
- 36:22Speaker 1: have chosen profits over people and not pathetic. So let's
- 36:25Speaker 1: have kJ to come and let's talk to her and
- 36:28Speaker 1: learn a little bit about why she made that riveting speech.
- 36:33Speaker 1: I wouldn't even call it a speech. She just basically
- 36:35Speaker 1: told it like it was like it is directly right,
- 36:39Speaker 1: directly to the to the people who needed to hear it. Well, Hi, kJ,
- 36:44Speaker 1: ting me on here, how are you? I'm nice today?
- 36:49Speaker 1: Y'all you're nice today? That's good. Who was your motivation
- 36:54Speaker 1: behind what you said? Um? I woke up that morning
- 36:57Speaker 1: just feeling really motivated, feeling really angry. I heard the
- 37:01Speaker 1: gospel song don't Forget to Remember, so that just kind
- 37:06Speaker 1: of got me excited. I'm like, they forgot to remember
- 37:09Speaker 1: where they paychecks came from. So I wrote that speech
- 37:14Speaker 1: as I was sitting in the crowd, partially directed at
- 37:16Speaker 1: a lot of the people who came who weren't really
- 37:18Speaker 1: speaking their truth. They were seeing what they thought would
- 37:21Speaker 1: sound the best. So I wrote that partially and direct
- 37:24Speaker 1: to the people who came with us, and partially indirect
- 37:26Speaker 1: to the police board who we barely get a chance
- 37:29Speaker 1: to see here in Kansas City. My main motivation was
- 37:33Speaker 1: just and I won't say anger, but you know, just
- 37:37Speaker 1: y'all gonna get had you been engaged in your local
- 37:42Speaker 1: community and fighting against police brutality prior to this day,
- 37:46Speaker 1: like I've been in every facet of activism. I've been
- 37:50Speaker 1: with the young protesters, I've been with the like kind
- 37:53Speaker 1: of middle aged concerned parent activists, and then I've been
- 37:56Speaker 1: with the older civil rights leaders. Tell us about what's
- 38:00Speaker 1: been happening to you since the day when you spoke
- 38:04Speaker 1: at the council meeting or the commissioners meeting. I left
- 38:07Speaker 1: the friends Halloween party and I was just sitting in
- 38:09Speaker 1: my apartment complex parking lot at like eleven o'clock at night,
- 38:12Speaker 1: like I normally do to like decompress, and I saw
- 38:16Speaker 1: their cards just coming through, and how my apartment complex
- 38:19Speaker 1: is that up You really wouldn't need to come back
- 38:21Speaker 1: there unless you were living there. They've been kind of
- 38:25Speaker 1: just trailing around, and my security sees them all the time,
- 38:29Speaker 1: but now that I draw national attention to them, they're
- 38:31Speaker 1: definitely angry, and I could see that manifesting itself in
- 38:37Speaker 1: various ways. You're not you're not alone. So we've experienced
- 38:41Speaker 1: the same type of intimidation. It's a playbook that they use.
- 38:44Speaker 1: But you also have to protect yourself. I'm glad to
- 38:47Speaker 1: hear you have security. You need to be safe, and
- 38:50Speaker 1: I guess the question would be what can people do
- 38:52Speaker 1: to help. I do have a cash op for security.
- 38:56Speaker 1: I'm paying security, which I'm paying taxes on at KCPD.
- 39:00Speaker 1: You with great power comes great responsibility. So I want
- 39:03Speaker 1: to be able to dive into this work without having
- 39:05Speaker 1: to worry about whether or not you know, someone on
- 39:07Speaker 1: the street could get me or someone in an organization. Right,
- 39:12Speaker 1: what is the organization and what is it that you
- 39:14Speaker 1: specialize in? What is you know? What is it that
- 39:16Speaker 1: you're you're expertiseing. Yeah, I have an organization that's co
- 39:21Speaker 1: founded by my comrade um Maria. Now it's called the
- 39:25Speaker 1: Chingana Collective. Chinona is a Spanish word for badass women,
- 39:29Speaker 1: so it could apply to anyone in any race. But
- 39:32Speaker 1: we're made up of black Latins and indigenous women. UM,
- 39:36Speaker 1: so we just work together. But you know, I'm black.
- 39:38Speaker 1: I want to work on black issues, but you know
- 39:40Speaker 1: I want to be there to support my sisters. Okay,
- 39:43Speaker 1: so what is your cash? You want to definitely make
- 39:45Speaker 1: sure that people are supporting you and make sure that
- 39:48Speaker 1: you are secure, and make sure that your grassroots organizations
- 39:52Speaker 1: even you drive and you continue to do your work.
- 39:54Speaker 1: Ka Gabriel, it's my first name and my little name.
- 39:57Speaker 1: It is on my Instagram at kgj k jg dot
- 40:03Speaker 1: b r ks UM. It's a link in there. There's
- 40:05Speaker 1: been a few fake pages popping up, but if you
- 40:07Speaker 1: just go to my instagram, like, yeah, well thanks for
- 40:11Speaker 1: being nice to us today. Yes, we appreciate you, even
- 40:15Speaker 1: though we love the stipiary but it's good to see
- 40:17Speaker 1: that smile. And we're glad that you have security and
- 40:20Speaker 1: people protected you. So whatever we can do, you know
- 40:22Speaker 1: you got us on your side. Yeah, you call us
- 40:25Speaker 1: anytime and be safe. Okay, take care of yourself so
- 40:29Speaker 1: much good, be good to you. Take care. kJ is funny,
- 40:34Speaker 1: like I mean, and I know she's not trying to
- 40:36Speaker 1: be funny, but she's funny and I like her. UM,
- 40:39Speaker 1: and I think we need to do all we can
- 40:41Speaker 1: to support her and make sure you know, yes, I
- 40:43Speaker 1: go to her cash app for support her. I went
- 40:47Speaker 1: to her I DM tell the other day and sold
- 40:49Speaker 1: her that I wanted to It was just a cold DM.
- 40:52Speaker 1: I didn't know her, but I said, you know, I
- 40:54Speaker 1: want to give you some cash App. I want to
- 40:57Speaker 1: deposits in your cash app. You know how we all
- 41:00Speaker 1: ways try to pay forward whatever has been donated to us.
- 41:03Speaker 1: We always try to give others that we know are
- 41:06Speaker 1: out here that don't have the same access and platform
- 41:09Speaker 1: um some of the resources that we're able to pull together.
- 41:13Speaker 1: And so I sent her that message and she responded,
- 41:16Speaker 1: of course she gave me that cash act because that's
- 41:18Speaker 1: what I asked for, and you know, she's about her business.
- 41:20Speaker 1: But she also said she wanted to have more conversations
- 41:23Speaker 1: about the national work, and I think her voice is needed.
- 41:26Speaker 1: There's so many out here who are not speaking truth
- 41:30Speaker 1: to power. I don't know what the hell they are doing,
- 41:31Speaker 1: and I just want to continue to help and support
- 41:35Speaker 1: the young sister. And that brings me like this is
- 41:42Speaker 1: this really bothers? Why do people think that people who
- 41:47Speaker 1: do work on the front lines, who are activists supposed
- 41:50Speaker 1: to be poor, oh man, But well, what do you
- 41:55Speaker 1: think that we're supposed to run around here fight risk
- 41:58Speaker 1: our freedom and we're not supposed to have will pay
- 42:00Speaker 1: a nice shoes who are not supposed to be able
- 42:02Speaker 1: to pay our rent. Why do y'all want the people
- 42:04Speaker 1: that's willing to risk their lives on these front lines
- 42:07Speaker 1: to have nothing. People tell me you're you're selling a
- 42:09Speaker 1: book online, You're trying to capitalize on the movement. You're
- 42:12Speaker 1: a poverty pimp because you're selling a book, Well, I
- 42:16Speaker 1: think or you're selling a hat, so you're a poverty pimp. Well.
- 42:19Speaker 1: I believe that people should have as much as they
- 42:22Speaker 1: can get. Of course, I'm you know, I believe in
- 42:25Speaker 1: Bernie saying this theory that people only need but so
- 42:28Speaker 1: much money. But I do think that whether you're an
- 42:31Speaker 1: activist or whatever, you are, a school teacher, you know,
- 42:37Speaker 1: a dancer, whatever you are, I think people should live
- 42:41Speaker 1: comfortably and that not only should we be able to
- 42:45Speaker 1: be supported by the community and people who we entertain,
- 42:48Speaker 1: people who we fight for, people who we work with.
- 42:51Speaker 1: That's one part of it. But I also think that
- 42:53Speaker 1: this country should ensure that people are not living in
- 42:58Speaker 1: poverty just because of this code or the color of
- 43:01Speaker 1: the skin. So I totally don't support that theory. I'm
- 43:04Speaker 1: aware of me a cute boot. I'm gonna have me
- 43:06Speaker 1: a nice bag, and I'm gonna make sure that I
- 43:10Speaker 1: have a home and that my family is stable. That's
- 43:14Speaker 1: something that I'm going to do, and I will work
- 43:16Speaker 1: for mine. It's not like I'm sitting at home expecting
- 43:19Speaker 1: people to give. But I also I also understand that
- 43:23Speaker 1: the media has created this narrative and it's been used
- 43:27Speaker 1: to to try to to try to, you know, pretty
- 43:34Speaker 1: much challenge the leadership of black people in this movement.
- 43:40Speaker 1: You know, it's been used as an opportunity to deflect
- 43:44Speaker 1: from the real issues and to try to destroy the
- 43:48Speaker 1: character of an individual who is trying to do work
- 43:53Speaker 1: so that we don't have to talk about the issues
- 43:55Speaker 1: of social justice. And I think that what happens is
- 43:59Speaker 1: because the mere as Malcolm X says, it's a powerful
- 44:02Speaker 1: tool and it's dangerous, right. It is so ingrained in
- 44:07Speaker 1: your mind that you start to question the black leader
- 44:11Speaker 1: who's doing whatever work locally, and but then you are
- 44:14Speaker 1: willing to give your money to something like the Red Cross,
- 44:17Speaker 1: who really also takes people's money, and most of the
- 44:21Speaker 1: money that goes into the Red Cross is going towards
- 44:24Speaker 1: the salaries of those people who work for the company,
- 44:28Speaker 1: the leadership, or the organization, and not nearly as much
- 44:33Speaker 1: of the individual dollars are going to the ground to
- 44:36Speaker 1: deal with relief. I mean, we know in New Orleans
- 44:39Speaker 1: still to this day, the city, the town has not
- 44:44Speaker 1: been properly rebuilt. Yet the Red Cross received probably you know,
- 44:48Speaker 1: I know it was millions, but it could have been
- 44:51Speaker 1: even more than millions of dollars during Hurricane Katrina. But
- 44:55Speaker 1: yet somebody like Traded Truth, who is our family, He's
- 44:59Speaker 1: out there doing the work every single day on the ground,
- 45:02Speaker 1: doing real relief work, going into the hood, buying trucks
- 45:06Speaker 1: and other things, Hurricane Tornado, doing it all. And they'll
- 45:12Speaker 1: ask why we just I just think, you know, we
- 45:17Speaker 1: gotta do better. Man, Like, why are we questioning people
- 45:20Speaker 1: that's willing to risk the lives for us people? Why
- 45:23Speaker 1: why do you want to see people that you know
- 45:25Speaker 1: come for when you come from that doing work, real work.
- 45:29Speaker 1: Why do you have a problem with seeing them having
- 45:32Speaker 1: some level of success, being able to survive, being able
- 45:34Speaker 1: to have something nice, or just not being broken, not
- 45:37Speaker 1: living day to day like that mentality to me is
- 45:40Speaker 1: so warm, But it's an enslaved mentality. It's a war,
- 45:44Speaker 1: and it was it was done to us on purpose
- 45:47Speaker 1: because the entire theory um or at least one that
- 45:51Speaker 1: I think has been extremely beneficial to our oppressors, has
- 45:57Speaker 1: been to use chaos and also to divide us based
- 46:02Speaker 1: upon jealousy, based upon some having and others not having.
- 46:07Speaker 1: So it's like, what do you call a deprivation? Like
- 46:10Speaker 1: all of these things have been used against us, and
- 46:14Speaker 1: it worked because it's ingrained in our psyche that we
- 46:18Speaker 1: start to want to know why or what kind of
- 46:21Speaker 1: car do you drive, rather than having a conversation about
- 46:24Speaker 1: the issue that I'm bringing to your attention. But you know,
- 46:28Speaker 1: I think you have to and I've learned from some
- 46:31Speaker 1: of my mentors and leaders that you just have to
- 46:33Speaker 1: keep going and not really stop to focus too much
- 46:38Speaker 1: of your attention on that sometimes, like I was questioned
- 46:42Speaker 1: a few weeks ago about how much money we make
- 46:45Speaker 1: and you know, do how is all of this happening?
- 46:48Speaker 1: And of course then they started asking me it was
- 46:50Speaker 1: supposed to be about me, and the next thing I know,
- 46:52Speaker 1: it became well, how come my son doesn't tell us
- 46:55Speaker 1: where he's making Listen, the president of the United States
- 46:58Speaker 1: wouldn't show his taxes. And when they finally found in
- 47:01Speaker 1: which they had to crack the code over four years,
- 47:04Speaker 1: and when they finally was able to find some information
- 47:08Speaker 1: seven So did you fight him? Yeah? Did you, Kim?
- 47:15Speaker 1: Was you on that five million more people were not
- 47:17Speaker 1: out of voted for him? Actually, five million more people
- 47:19Speaker 1: did go out and voting. The numbers went up in many,
- 47:23Speaker 1: many situations that you know tells us a lot about
- 47:27Speaker 1: this country a lot. Yeah. Well, listen, once again, we
- 47:32Speaker 1: don't always agree. We're not gonna always be wrong, We're
- 47:37Speaker 1: not always gonna be wrong, and we're not always be right,
- 47:39Speaker 1: but we can guarantee you that we will always be
- 47:43Speaker 1: authentic street politicians. P