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Not every child thrives in a classroom, what made you choose a different kind of schooling for you kid? · Anele and the Club on 947

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  Speaker 1: Wake up with a bang.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, wake up!
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  Speaker 3: Anele and the club on 947.
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  Speaker 4: And I figured it out. The easiest way to get
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  Speaker 4: into a conversation with anyone is for A, talk about
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  Speaker 4: the weather. B, talk about the.
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  Speaker 1: Price of fuel. Absolutely.
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  Speaker 4: And then C, talk about schools. Good schools, bad schools,
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  Speaker 4: good teachers, school fees. I mean, I'm not even like
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  Speaker 4: looking for my child's high school. And I saw Hilton
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  Speaker 4: came out that if you want your child to be
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  Speaker 4: there for five years, there's 2.2 million. I was like,
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  Speaker 4: why are people still having kids?
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 4: I promise you, it's just a great conversation that I
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  Speaker 4: could be anywhere. People are like, oh, how old is
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  Speaker 4: your son? You're like, oh, he's 11. Have you decided
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  Speaker 4: on a high school? Have you decided on a high school?
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  Speaker 4: And then we're all there for the next three hours.
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  Speaker 4: you know discussing high schools which one which one little
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  Speaker 4: johnny went to oh have you already applied well if
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  Speaker 4: you need any help i know somebody in the you
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  Speaker 4: know in the admin department it's just a huge conversation
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  Speaker 4: is it that serious schools and varsity and like placement
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  Speaker 4: in varsity school placement.
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  Speaker 2: Grade one you know what you you read about it
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  Speaker 2: all the time I mean, school like grade one and
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  Speaker 2: eight years, because we talk about that a lot. I
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  Speaker 2: didn't realize, though, until someone was talking about how some
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  Speaker 2: of the really, really high-end schools... You could be on
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  Speaker 2: a waiting list for years.
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  Speaker 4: Most schools, they say the best time to apply is
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  Speaker 4: when home affairs.
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  Speaker 1: Is at the hospital.
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  Speaker 4: And then they issue you with the birth certificate. Whilst
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  Speaker 4: mom is breastfeeding, dad better drive off to the school
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  Speaker 4: immediately and hand in the birth certificate. And that's when
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  Speaker 4: you apply for grade eight.
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  Speaker 2: So if you're going to give birth today, by the way,
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  Speaker 2: apply now for grade one placement.
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  Speaker 4: But this is because we are all looking for the
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  Speaker 4: same type of school. We're not looking for the alternatives,
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  Speaker 4: other things that are happening, be it homeschooling.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, that UCT homeschooling program is doing very well.
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  Speaker 2: That's when they launched, I think, what, two, three years ago, right?
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  Speaker 1: With prof. Yeah, because the.
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  Speaker 2: Whole idea was about, I'm not sure if reimagining education
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  Speaker 2: is the right word, but catering education ultimately to match education.
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  Speaker 1: A child's ability, strengths.
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  Speaker 4: You know. So when I came across this TikTok, I
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  Speaker 4: was like, OK, this is interesting. You've got my attention, man.
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  Speaker 4: This school in South Africa is insane.
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  Speaker 5: There are no traditional classrooms and kids learn coding, video editing,
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  Speaker 5: entrepreneurship and even blockchain fundamentals. They have entire spaces designed
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  Speaker 5: for creativity, collaboration and even just taking a moment to reset.
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  Speaker 5: Their motto is literally reimagining today's schools. This is Centennial
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  Speaker 5: Schools in Johannesburg, South Africa, created in 2022 by lifelong
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  Speaker 5: educator and school leader, Sean Fuchs, who wanted to rethink
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  Speaker 5: what education could look like in the 21st century. He
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  Speaker 5: started with a simple question. If we design school today
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  Speaker 5: instead of 100 years ago, what would it look like?
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  Speaker 5: I'm curious, would you send your kids to a school
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  Speaker 5: like this?
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  Speaker 4: That's a great question to ask. If we design a
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  Speaker 4: school to suit children from today and not have to
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  Speaker 4: stick to the formats that's been around for 300 years,
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  Speaker 4: what would that school look like? And this is why
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  Speaker 4: the Schoenfeller then created Centennial Schools. I mean, I know
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  Speaker 4: three of Alaka's friends who've left their schools to go
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  Speaker 4: over there and they're absolutely happy.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's one of the conversations, like you say, if
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  Speaker 1: you start talking about school, it's like, why is your
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  Speaker 1: kid in that school? Because every school is so different, right?
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  Speaker 5: So.
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  Speaker 1: It does make sense that 100 years later, the world
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  Speaker 1: has changed dramatically from what it was.
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  Speaker 4: So my conversation that I want to have then this
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  Speaker 4: morning is, if your child, if you've gone the different
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  Speaker 4: type of school route, be it homeschooling, or maybe you went,
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  Speaker 4: you're going to a school like this, like a coding school,
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  Speaker 4: or you went like on a full-on art school, or,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I want to know what different types of
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  Speaker 4: schooling methods are there, and why did you go that route,
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  Speaker 4: and how are you guys, you know, faring?
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  Speaker 1: Like a non-traditional school. Non-traditional school.
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  Speaker 3: Because the reality is some kids don't thrive in a
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  Speaker 3: traditional setting, right? And I've recently come across three or
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  Speaker 3: four parents who said, I pulled my child out and
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  Speaker 3: I put them online. And in my mind as a parent,
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  Speaker 3: I'm going, okay, but hang on. Don't you have to
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  Speaker 3: sit on top of them? Don't you have to then
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  Speaker 3: make sure they're doing their homework? Or is going online
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  Speaker 3: easier for them?
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  Speaker 4: Is online the same as homeschooling?
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  Speaker 2: No, it's not.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: And that's what I'd love to find out because I
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  Speaker 3: think it's completely different. I think homeschooling, I know, has
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  Speaker 3: a set program, et cetera.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: They've got outings and stuff, but I'd love to, the
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  Speaker 3: online thing is more for high school kids, what I've heard,
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  Speaker 3: like grades from about grade 10, 11, 12. It's probably
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  Speaker 3: younger as well, but it's just interesting because some kids
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  Speaker 3: don't thrive in a traditional school with a big class
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  Speaker 3: and lots of expectation.
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  Speaker 4: You see, I would have to be convinced about online.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, me too.
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  Speaker 4: And I'll tell you why. It's not online schooling's fault.
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  Speaker 4: It's because of COVID. I just watched how our kids
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  Speaker 4: struggled with online. But also, you must remember, we were
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  Speaker 4: thrown into that. It's not something that we got like
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  Speaker 4: the tutorial to do it.
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  Speaker 1: There was no prep time.
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  Speaker 4: There was no prep time. And, you know, we didn't
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  Speaker 4: all go in it together. It was kind of like
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  Speaker 4: a survival thing. So every time I think online, I
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  Speaker 4: go back to those dark ages with COVID. And that's
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  Speaker 4: why I've got some sort of, you know, attitude towards it.
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  Speaker 4: But I don't think I should.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think it's exactly the same conversation because everyone
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  Speaker 1: had to go online. But even that doesn't suit everyone.
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  Speaker 1: You know, that's the conversation is your kid is in
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  Speaker 1: an alternative school for a certain reason and it works
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  Speaker 1: for them. What is that reason?
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  Speaker 4: What are the different types of schoolings out there? I
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  Speaker 4: think that's the first one. And which one do you
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  Speaker 4: vouch for? Which one do you see that you put
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  Speaker 4: your child into it and they thrived, right? You know
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  Speaker 4: that your cousin does it or your cousin's child or
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  Speaker 4: your brother's child or whatever it is. You know, is
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  Speaker 4: it the homeschooling? Is it the online? Is it a
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  Speaker 4: school like Centennial Schools where the entire setup is different?
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  Speaker 4: Because if you remember... 20 years, Crawford was deemed to
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  Speaker 4: be alternative.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a different school.
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  Speaker 4: They don't wear school uniform.
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  Speaker 1: We're like, whoa. You know, they don't have a tack shop. Whoa.
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  Speaker 4: Crawford has a lot. And right now, Crawford is normal.
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  Speaker 1: No, it's a normal school.
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  Speaker 7: 011-8838-947.
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  Speaker 4: What different types of schooling methods are there? And which
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  Speaker 4: one do you vouch for entirely? And you'd like for
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  Speaker 4: more of us to know about it.
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  Speaker 1: Wayne, you're in Alberton. Good morning.
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  Speaker 7: Good morning, guys.
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  Speaker 4: How are you, Wayne?
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  Speaker 7: I'm good, and you?
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  Speaker 1: We're great.
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  Speaker 4: You say your daughter's actually online schooling?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's through Impact.
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  Speaker 8: It's actually an internationally recognized school done by a guy
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  Speaker 8: from the UK. And they have centrums that they go to.
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  Speaker 8: They're not at home, but they get one-on-one attention. They're
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  Speaker 8: never more than six kids in a class.
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  Speaker 7: It's brilliant.
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  Speaker 4: Also, I suppose then that's the difference between online schooling
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  Speaker 4: and homeschooling.
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  Speaker 1: Home, you're at home.
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  Speaker 4: And let's say your mom or your dad have, you know,
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  Speaker 4: just taken the decision that they are going to educate
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  Speaker 4: you themselves. But then with online schooling, you go to
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  Speaker 4: a center.
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  Speaker 7: Yes, and it still works brilliantly.
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  Speaker 4: And what's the.
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  Speaker 4: Is there like a system that clogs if they came in?
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  Speaker 4: Because obviously you have to still be accountable to the
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  Speaker 4: education department. So attendance is still a big thing that
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  Speaker 4: must be monitored, right?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, they still do everything online. So the kids' projects
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  Speaker 7: and everything that they do have to be logged in online.
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  Speaker 7: They have to be logged in in the mornings every time.
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  Speaker 7: So it all gets monitored, 100%.
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  Speaker 1: And your kids enjoy this?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, very much, very, very much.
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  Speaker 4: I like it. What was the decision to change your
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  Speaker 4: children from traditional to online?
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  Speaker 7: Well, it was actually through a friend of ours whose
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  Speaker 7: son was already in the school because they stay in
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  Speaker 7: the same school from grade R right through to matric.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: And do they wear school uniform?
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  Speaker 7: Nope, not at all.
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  Speaker 1: Not at all.
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  Speaker 4: And what time do they start and what time.
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  Speaker 8: Do they wrap?
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  Speaker 7: They start at 8 o'clock in the morning and then
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  Speaker 7: they finish at about 2 o'clock in the afternoon.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so more like a normal school.
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  Speaker 4: Normal school day.
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  Speaker 7: Even their terms are the same.
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  Speaker 4: And academically, you find that your kids are thriving?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely. My daughter gets marks between 80
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  Speaker 7: to 90 every term.
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  Speaker 9: Wow.
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  Speaker 7: Why did you say it's called? Well, the school itself
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  Speaker 7: is TIT tutors, but it's done through the impact syllabus.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, thank you, Wayne. From Albertson, very interesting. Let's go
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  Speaker 4: to Midrand. What a beautiful name. Anele, good morning.
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  Speaker 9: Good morning, Anele.
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  Speaker 3: How are you guys?
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  Speaker 4: We are fantastic.
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  Speaker 3: How are you, doll?
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  Speaker 9: Well, thank you. So I am a school marketer at
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  Speaker 9: Curio Halfway Gardens. I just wanted to notify people about
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  Speaker 9: the Curio brand and the offerings that we've got. So
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  Speaker 9: first things first, we cater for different profiles in terms
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  Speaker 9: of lower income, middle class and upper class. So lower
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  Speaker 9: income schools are schools that are situated within the townships.
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  Speaker 9: So if I may mention one like Cosmos City. So
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  Speaker 9: the offering there is quite low in terms of school fees. However,
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  Speaker 9: you still get a private education fee. The difference is
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  Speaker 9: the number of learners in the classroom, which is maximum
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  Speaker 9: usually is 35 per class.
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  Speaker 4: So the syllabus is the same and everything else, the
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  Speaker 4: education is the same. It's just that there'll be more
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  Speaker 4: people in class than what you're saying, the high end one.
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  Speaker 4: The high end one, how many people are in class?
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  Speaker 9: Maximum usually is at 25. And sometimes we do not
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  Speaker 9: even reach the 25.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was going to say, 25 is still a
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  Speaker 4: lot though for a private school.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, but remember, there's always assistants as well in the classroom.
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  Speaker 9: So it's a teacher and an assistant.
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  Speaker 4: And the ones that are, say, in Cosmo don't have
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  Speaker 4: an assistant.
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  Speaker 9: No, they do not because it's lower class and we're
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  Speaker 9: trying to keep it at an affordable price in order
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  Speaker 9: for everyone to gain access to private education. But parents
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  Speaker 9: may ask themselves, what sets us apart from a public
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  Speaker 9: school if we are offering at a higher rate?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: You know, so what sets us apart is the offering.
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  Speaker 9: You get robotics, computers... which in other schools you don't get.
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  Speaker 9: You've got resources.
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  Speaker 4: Other public schools?
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  Speaker 9: Yes, other public schools. And you also have limited extramurals,
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  Speaker 9: the sports. I mean, you have bursaries as well. So
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  Speaker 9: there's got a lot offering at Kuro. We also have
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  Speaker 9: Kuro online.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so you do online schooling as well. That's what
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  Speaker 1: we're talking about, right? So there's an online, is it
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  Speaker 1: the same Kuro education, but it's all just done online?
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  Speaker 9: And we also have the DigiEd, which you have an
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  Speaker 9: option to either go to a classroom, however, the class
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  Speaker 9: will be then launched on a computer, or you'll be
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  Speaker 9: taught at home, homeschooling, just like Curo Online, but it's
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  Speaker 9: the same thing.
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  Speaker 4: So when you're homeschooled, the person who's at home, do
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  Speaker 4: they go through a course like a Curo course to
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  Speaker 4: be able to homeschool you at home?
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  Speaker 9: Yes, so there is an induction.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 4: And how long is the induction?
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  Speaker 9: Probably a week, if not two.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: And also what I like is you get prompted SMSs
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  Speaker 9: if your child did not attend. You always have access
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  Speaker 9: to speaking to the teacher if you have any concerns.
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  Speaker 9: So everything is just streamlined.
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  Speaker 4: I would absolutely suck at homeschooling my children because I'm
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  Speaker 4: so soft. Like I'm strict, strict, but like, no, I've
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  Speaker 4: got a tummy ache. Oh, stay in bed.
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  Speaker 1: We'll look after that tomorrow.
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  Speaker 4: Do you know what I'm saying? Whereas if you are
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  Speaker 4: a parent who's homeschooling your child, you literally have to
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  Speaker 4: remove all the emotion from it and just purely teach them.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think just technology has changed how we homeschool
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  Speaker 1: so much, right? Because now your kids can catch up
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  Speaker 1: with video if they've missed a class, for example. So
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  Speaker 1: you really never have a reason to fall behind.
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  Speaker 4: Can I tell you what I think when someone says homeschooling?
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  Speaker 4: I think Amish in this, Amish in this.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know what you're saying.
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  Speaker 4: You're on a farm.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: We grow the carrots first in the morning.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, in the morning and then you milk the cow
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  Speaker 4: and then you go into class. Let's chat to Bunga
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  Speaker 4: who has been doing UCT online now. Bunga, how long
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  Speaker 4: have you been doing UCT online?
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  Speaker 6: Since grade eight.
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  Speaker 1: So you're a whole high school.
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  Speaker 7: Three years now.
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  Speaker 1: Three years, okay.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, and how's it going? Why did you go from
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  Speaker 4: traditional school to online school?
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  Speaker 6: To be honest, the reason wasn't because I wanted to.
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  Speaker 6: It was because one of my friends mentioned going to
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  Speaker 6: UCT for their high school. So I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 6: that sounds cool. Let me tell my mom about it.
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  Speaker 6: And they ended up not going. So I'm by myself.
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  Speaker 1: This is why you should never follow your friends anyway.
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  Speaker 1: They'll drop you. They'll drop you, Bonga. They'll drop you.
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  Speaker 4: And Bonga, have your marks improved from when you were
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  Speaker 4: in traditional school to UCT online?
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  Speaker 6: It's been sort of a weird balance. Because I get
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  Speaker 6: more freedom to focus on the subjects I want to
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  Speaker 6: focus on rather than following like a specific script that
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  Speaker 6: the teacher said. I get higher marks on specific subjects
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  Speaker 6: and other ones have kind of dropped a bit.
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  Speaker 7: But, you know, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And when do you log on? When do you go online?
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  Speaker 6: Basically, there's certain lessons throughout the day where it's sort
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  Speaker 6: of a Google Meet with all the students and the
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  Speaker 6: teachers so we can ask questions.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 6: And those are from eight in the morning until around three.
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  Speaker 4: And then are there some classes where there'll be two
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  Speaker 4: versions of that class so you can catch one or
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  Speaker 4: the other as long as you catch one of them?
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  Speaker 1: No, no, no.
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  Speaker 6: It's one lesson.
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  Speaker 4: And that's it.
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  Speaker 7: Every week, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That's it.
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  Speaker 1: I have to ask, sorry, this is a sort of
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  Speaker 1: on topic, off topic, but the one thing that people
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  Speaker 1: always worry about is that you, like, do you do
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  Speaker 1: any sport? Do you interact with kids at school? Because
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  Speaker 1: that's always the part of the conversation for parents that
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  Speaker 1: don't do this. Are there kids involved with other kids? Oh, yeah, absolutely.
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  Speaker 6: We make group chats and obviously we have to organize
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  Speaker 6: our own meetups, but it does happen.
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  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. And.
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  Speaker 4: No, finish your answer, please.
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  Speaker 6: I also do things like music. So I still get
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  Speaker 6: to interact with my bandmates when I go to band
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  Speaker 6: practice every week.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, cool. Okay.
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  Speaker 4: And then does this mean you get automatic entrance into
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  Speaker 4: UCT diversity?
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  Speaker 1: Not really. Oh, you still got to qualify.
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  Speaker 4: But I'm sure there's a preference. I mean, if you
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  Speaker 4: were doing UCT high school online, it means automatically you
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  Speaker 4: are in UCT.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think it's automatic, but they must surely shape
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  Speaker 1: it so that you get, they give you the right
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  Speaker 1: subjects to get.
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  Speaker 3: In, right?
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  Speaker 8: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you, Bunga, then. He does the UCT online and
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  Speaker 4: he's been doing it for three years now since he
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  Speaker 4: was in grade eight. Loving it.
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  Speaker 1: Sounds like he's thriving. Sounds very good.
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  Speaker 8: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: Any other voice notes you have of different schooling methods,
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: different outside of traditional? I'm really interested in this one.
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  Speaker 1: Send it to us.
• 15:11
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• 15:11
  Speaker 4: Take it back now.
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: Back to making your morning.
• 15:16
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• 15:17
  Speaker 1: In LA and the club.
• 15:18
  Speaker 8: I love this show.
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  Speaker 3: On 947.