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The Hidden Dangers in Pet Products – What Every Dog Parent Needs to Know with Michelle Cummins from Natural Pet Farmacy · The Natural Dog Mum

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  Hi dog mums and dads, we're back with another episode of The
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  Natural Dog Mum and thank you for spending the time with us.
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  Today we're going to be having a chat with the lovely Michelle
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  Cummins. Now she is a little bit of a
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  Unicorn in the Australian pet industry.
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  She has and currently has several different pet brands,
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  including her online store, The Natural Pet Pharmacy.
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  She is somewhat of an expert in all things natural when it comes
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  to pet health and pet products. So we're going to be talking
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  about that. We're also going to be talking
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  about a really exciting event that she's organising that's
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  coming up in Melbourne in November called Canine Masters.
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  I will let her spill the tea on that.
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  So stick around to find out all the Goss.
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  Can you tell us a little bit about your journey in the pet
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  industry? How you came to be where you are
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  now I. Can, if we go back, probably
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  2010, I had been in corporate around that time and then we had
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  the global financial meltdown. I think around 2009, 2010, I had
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  a little cat called Henry who was very unwell.
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  He had a reaction to a cortisone injection that he was given by
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  an allopathic or conventional vet in my area without my
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  permission, to be honest. So I wouldn't back then, I
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  probably wouldn't have even known.
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  I could have said no or to ask, you know, what the side effects
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  were. Henry was only, oh, he was still
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  very young at that point and he was just, he deteriorated before
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  my eyes. 1% of cats have a, a very harsh reaction to cortisone
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  and he was in that 1%. So Henry was kind of the
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  catalyst for this massive career change.
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  Like I've always been an animal lover, you know, I've got a
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  photo of when I was 3 and I've got a duck on my lap and a
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  rosella on my shoulder. And my dad was like Doctor
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  Dolittle growing up. He had some industrial sheds
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  outside of Lismore and he, he used to own a business that he
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  operated from these big industrial sheds and people
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  would dump cats there. And at one point we had 33
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  dumped cats and then they had kittens and dad would fine homes
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  for them. He was, he loved animals.
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  Dad did so. And I'm also on my mum's side.
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  I've got a long, you know, line there of, of farming uncles who
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  were farmers, but who had an amazing knowledge of, of animals
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  as well, particularly my, my dear uncle Morris, who's well
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  and truly go on now it'd be 101. But he and I had a real affinity
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  when it came to animals. And he just had a greater
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  understanding of the thinking behind their behaviours.
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  And, and he used to observe, observe them all the time and
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  say to me now see how they stretch like that.
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  We need to stretch every morning when we get up and, you know,
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  just all sorts of things. So, so coming back to Henry I,
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  he wasn't sleeping at all. So I made a a bed for him and
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  tried lots of different materials and things like that.
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  And I came across one particular combination that he hopped on
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  and he slept for like 23 hours straight.
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  I actually thought he had died. And that then lead me into a pet
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  bed company at the time called Henry Hottie.
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  And I had that for many, many years.
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  And I don't know, I think sometimes I'm a bit scared of
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  success and I'm my own worst enemy as some of us can be.
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  But I just probably never believed that the product was as
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  good as it was. And even though I ended up being
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  granted a patent for it in 2019, the the bed itself was just
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  incredible in so far as you know, customers would ring and
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  say that their dog or cat, you know would sleep on it without
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  getting up and moving and dogs that had joint issues would show
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  greater mobility after sleeping on the bed.
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  So put a little bit more research into it and all the
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  components of the bed were non toxic as well.
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  So there was no releasing of VOC's and and toxic dyes and the
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  fabrics that arrive in the pet bed industry again unregulated.
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  So I, yeah, really kind of honed in on that.
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  And then in 2022, the name changed to Stan, which was my
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  soul dog who I lost and he passed away that year, 12 1/2.
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  And a friend of mine said that Stan's name was also an acronym
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  for Safe, Therapeutic Australian Non Toxic.
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  So I did the name chain, having a bit of a break and stand still
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  exists today, but it's a very, very labour intensive, hard
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  business. Again, something I do on my own
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  now. I used to have a factory but
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  I've kind of outsourced bits and pieces at the moment.
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  But it is a very hard business, especially post COVID when all
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  the shipping prices went up. So I've had a little bit of a
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  break, but that's about to relaunch this weekend.
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  But what I found was that the people that were coming to me
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  for pet beds for all those years, that was kind of like the
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  what they were hoping would be the silver bullet.
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  So, you know, their dog had all sorts of issues, but they just
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  thought, well, nothing else is fixing this dog.
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  Maybe if it gets a good bed to sleep on.
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  And I found that some of the really critical cases, I would
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  say to them, the pet beds, the last of your concerns, like
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  you've got to address diet, you've got to address, you know,
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  over vaccination, over medication.
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  You know, I've got several who were operated on completely
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  unnecessarily. And, you know, it's just like, I
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  don't know, I just felt there. I have to get to them before we
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  get to that stage. So that's kind of how the
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  natural Pet Pharmacy came about. And I've only been doing that
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  for, I've been researching products for about four years,
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  but I've, I only launched the natural Pet pharmacy just over a
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  year ago. And actually might even be that
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  it might. No, it's not.
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  It's a year in October. Oh my goodness.
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  So, and the natural Pet Pharmacy is really a collection, a small
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  collection at the moment, but a collection of, of products that
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  I've really researched. I've researched with the help of
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  a good friend of mine who is a pharmacist.
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  But he now his whole world is in organic and, and natural
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  medicine. So he's got, you know, the
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  benefit of seeing both sides. And we've really gone through a
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  lot of products and the ones that I stock are the real deal.
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  They are beneficial, they're safe, You know, there's no
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  synthetics, there's there's no binders, there's no all the
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  horrible stuff that can be in what I found about 90% of pet
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  pet food supplements on the market I.
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  Mean the customers really knew what was.
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  In them that you wouldn't touch them, you sure as hell wouldn't
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  be feeling into your pet. So.
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  Oh, look, some of the names are, are quite hard to actually
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  pronounce, but in, in a more general term, I'd be, I be
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  looking at things that have, you know, the flavourings, I'd be
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  looking at the carrier oils or the carrier liquids.
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  There's preservatives, there's coating agents, tablets, you
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  know, just tablets in general. They're so heat treated that
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  what's left in them of any benefit is, is really, you know,
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  of no benefit at all. There's, you know, surfactants,
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  there's bulking agents, there's all sorts of things that they
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  put into these products. And the problem is that a lot of
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  people don't realise that in Australia they only have to
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  declare the active ingredients, not the non active ingredients.
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  So which are a lot of the time, you know, the bulking agents,
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  fillers of all descriptions and they cause so many problems
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  because often they're synthetic for a start, and they, the
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  burden they create on the liver is, you know, can be long term.
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  And then of course, we know that if the liver's not functioning
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  problem properly, that's, you know, that creates the perfect
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  storm for a whole lot of other illnesses to to present.
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  So there's a lot that people need to look into and I know
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  we've discussed it that we will create a list of what, you know,
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  specifics of what we need to look for for customers to have a
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  reference point. Because.
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  And it's not just in supplements either, it's in grooming
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  products, it's in toys. It's, you know, there's a range
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  of different things that we need to seriously look at and create
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  a standard because the industry is not creating that standard.
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  It is. It's a free for all out there at
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  the moment and there's a lot of people making a lot of money.
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  Absolutely. And particularly when you're
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  talking about and we. Really need to stop that.
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  We really need to. Diet, toys, shoes, all of those
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  things. There is no central source of
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  information for people to go to to find out if something's safe.
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  I mean, not a lot of people in Australia are aware.
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  There is actually a thing on the Internet.
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  There is a website called the Shampoo Ingredients Database
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  that exists in America where you can simply go to and you can pop
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  in the ingredient you've seen and it will tell you whether
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  it's safe or not. But that's only grooming
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  products. That doesn't cover all of the
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  other types of products and the things that you either wouldn't
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  know were there or if you did read them on the ingredients
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  list, it's like reading Klingon. You wouldn't know what it means
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  or whether it's safe or whether it's not.
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  So yeah, something we definitely need to look at.
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  We do and the natural Pet Pharmacy, we're in the process
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  of developing, you know, a lot of resource material for for
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  customers to look at and you know, it doesn't necessarily
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  mean that what they buy is something that we stock.
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  You know, there's a lot of products out there.
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  I don't necessarily stock products that, you know, someone
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  else imports and then, you know, it's just it's not viable for me
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  to do that. There's alien products that, you
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  know, we like to see the those companies benefit from the
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  customer going straight to them to keep them afloat.
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  But when it comes to international products, there
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  are so many incredible brands out there.
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  There are so many incredible people that are, you know,
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  making strides in natural medicine for animals.
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  But the problem is we've been so indoctrinated and by
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  pharmaceutical companies that we believe that we couldn't
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  possibly manage our pets health when they're sick.
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  We can do our best, do what we can do to keep them healthy, but
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  as soon as they get diarrhoea or as soon as they vomit, it's like
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  all bets are off. We know nothing and we've got to
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  take them to the vet. They're given an antibiotic or
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  an anti nausea and then the whole cycle starts all over
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  again. For me, my role in the industry
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  is, you know, to provide safe and effective products, but to
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  also help customers, you know, become more confident in how
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  they manage these little things. Vomiting and diarrhoea, you
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  know, or a little cut or a graze or something like that.
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  What what is a vet visit? Because it's not necessarily
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  those small things that we can address ourselves, you know,
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  selves. I'm a big fan of colloidal
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  silver for cuts and abrasions and absences and things like
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  that. Once I knew what it was and how
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  to use it. My previous cat, Tommy, he
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  didn't go to the vet for years. He never needed to because I'd
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  always applied the colloidal silver and 24 hours later he'd
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  be as good as gold and, and off you'd go again.
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  So, and it's not because I don't want to spend the money.
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  I'd, I'd give every cent I have to my animals if it could save
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  them. It's more that that's not a
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  necessary spend because it's not a big deal.
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  You know, allopathic medicine is there for emergencies.
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  Absolutely. I, you know, my own girl Alice
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  had a grand Mal seizure when she was 18 months old.
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  She's 11 now and had it not been for the work of the animal
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  emergency that she was taken to, she wouldn't be with us today.
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  Having said that though, the vets at the animal emergency the
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  following day said to me we don't know what caused it, it
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  was idiopathic. However, she needs to be on anti
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  seizure medication for the rest of her life and that wasn't
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  going to happen because they couldn't tell me what caused it.
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  So why would I medicate her for something that, you know, and
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  she's never had another seizure since.
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  So, you know, I just took it all into my own hands.
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  I, I cannabis all for her. She was already eating a high
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  quality raw diet. I just upped it a bit in quality
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  to all organic. She had homoeopathic remedies
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  from Lindell, from Canine Vitality.
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  And Alice is as good as gold. She's an incredible 11 year old.
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  You know, she still runs on our walks.
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  She's extremely healthy. And yeah, so I don't think that
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  would be the. Case had she been I agree
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  completely and decision. Medication.
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  The same way that I managed all of my animals as well.
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  I mean, traditional vets absolutely have an important
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  role, they're there for a reason.
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  But my dogs will only go to a vet if I need imaging or I need
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  some some sort of help in finding out what the problem is,
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  if I need blood analysed or if there's some some sort of
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  accident and the and the injury is high risk of infection.
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  That for example, we've had a couple of nasty run insurance
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  with Kangaroos who've sliced and diced and they were big, big
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  wounds. So I at least I at least wanted
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  them looked at. Unfortunately, in some cases
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  like that, they may not be an option but to do the
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  antibiotics. But if I do, if I do do them,
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  and I only use them when it's strictly when it's necessary.
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  I'm also back at home, you know, I'm making sure that they got
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  it, getting the pre and the probiotics that they need, that
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  I'm supporting their guts and they're not going to have
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  further problems. I will also make sure I'm doing
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  things to support their liver as well so that they're I would
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  hope not building up long term toxicity, all of those sorts of
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  things that you can do in conjunction with that.
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  But as you said, if it's everyday knots and scrapes, if
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  it's an upset tummy, things like that, if it's non emergency,
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  I'll deal with that at home. And even the same with
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  vaccinations. If I think that their immunity
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  is in question, I will tie the test to see where they're at.
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  But I don't automatically vaccinate every 12 months
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  because it's overkill. And you're just adding to, you
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  know, the toxic sludge that's sitting in their bodies that
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  mounts up over time and. We're at a stage now where it's
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  not even the toxic sludge. It is the addition to, you know,
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  to the vaccines. They, they aren't today what
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  they once were. There we have the RMR, I'm
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  coming to think now the RNMRNA. There we go.
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  That's been added to animal vaccines just in the last little
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  while. I think Doctor Judy Morgan was
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  talking about this the other day.
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  And our animals are literally Guinea pigs for the
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  Pharmaceutical industry in this respect.
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  And they do it all the time. Like we've, we can discuss even
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  Librella, which is Borenza I think it is in Australia, nasty
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  stuff. That's a failed human drug.
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  So you know, when you know that this is how the world's
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  operating where they can just kind of chop and change and put
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  a new label on something and Oh well, your dog would die.
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  But that's the price we're willing to pay.
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  They don't care about your animal.
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  They don't care. So we have to be, we have to be
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  the the voice, the protector, the decision maker for our pets
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  because for many of them, there's no second chance.
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  You don't get to do it over again because you're losing the
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  first time. And like, energetically, our
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  animals are so much more valuable to this planet and to
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  us than we've ever realised. You know, they transmute energy.
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  They, they take our negative, our hurt emotions and they
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  change that and give it back to us in a happier, you know, more
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  positive form. And they're just incredible at
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  what they do. And I believe there is a huge
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  agenda to eradicate companions, companion animals.
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  It's not even a secret. It was discussed at the World
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  Economic Forum, I think in 2023 that that was the intention
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  because of their contribution to climate change.
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  So, you know, that's a that'll be a death sentence for humans
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  if that ever happened. I don't see it happening in my
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  lifetime. But, you know, we, we really do
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  have to arm ourselves with as much knowledge as possible when
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  it comes to what we're putting into our pets bodies because
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  once they're they're in there, particularly things that are
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  injected, you can't get them out.
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  That's it. So that to me is incredibly
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  scary and also incredibly sad because, you know, it's all well
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  and good to say, oh, my dog was given an in, you know, a vaccine
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  and didn't have any reaction. It was fine.
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  We don't know what's going on in the inside.
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  We don't know the terror that they might be feeling, you know,
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  from this horrible toxic sludge, as you call it, that's just been
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  injected into their body, into their system.
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  That's going to cross the blood brain barrier.
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  It could be giving them crazy thoughts.
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  It could be giving them, you know, I don't know, you know,
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  elevating fear. I certainly know that even with
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  the foods today, today the dry food.
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  The sugar content, the preservatives and everything
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  else, the mental clarity is lost without our dogs.
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  You know, they don't have the benefit of being able to make a
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  clear decision in the moment. So a lot of them are throwing,
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  you know, reactions to whatever the event is because this
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  perceived threat is. It's just too overwhelming for
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  them to process. And that's incredibly sad.
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  You don't see that as often with the dogs that are raw fed, you
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  know, that have minimal vaccines to none at all.
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  They're not given chemical flea and tick treatments.
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  You know the grooming products like anything you put on their
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  skin is absorbed. So you know all it's layer upon
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  layer. You take them for a walk around
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  suburbia and they're through their paws.
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  They're absorbing the glyphosate lead from car fumes like just
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  everything. So the toxic load is massive and
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  then you're adding yeah, these unnecessary vaccines that are
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  given under what I believe is false pretence.
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  You know, we're told that them for their health and it's not.
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  It is not. There are so many other ways to
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  protect our pets without injecting them with this foreign
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  substance that is full of things that we don't even know half of
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  what they are. Since the COVID, you know,
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  pandemic, it's opened a lot of people's eyes to what's truly
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  going on in that industry. And, you know, it's, Yeah, I
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  think we all should be very alert to what's going on and be
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  armed with a lot of information to make that decision for our
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  animals because we're not injecting it into our body.
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  They're we're injecting it into theirs.
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  So our responsibility. With that in mind.
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  To get it right. We've created this event coming
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  to Melbourne in October called Canine Masters.
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  Tell us a little bit more. So I'm Co host of that event.
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  Some of your viewers, if they're familiar with PHEVO from
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  Augustine, approved. PHEVO was the original creator
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  of this type of thing. Back in 2015, he hosted Master
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  Chops, which was a a fantastic event.
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  He brought out Karen, Dr Karen Becker and Rodney Habib and it
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  was really an amazing time. He probably made it look a bit
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  too easy because when we had a chat one day and, and said that
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  we should be doing another, oh, he should be doing another.
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  And he's like, I'll do it if you come on board.
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  And I was like, no problem. It's an enormous thing to
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  organise. It is, it's huge.
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  The amount of, of organisation that's required is quite
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  extraordinary. But it's done, it's happening.
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  And I feel that we've got some of the best speakers, you know,
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  at the at this time coming from the US and from the UK.
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  We have Rita Hogan, who I think everyone loves Rita.
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  And if they don't yet, just because I don't know her or know
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  of her, she's written a fantastic book called The Herbal
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  Dog. And it's also just been released
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  on audio books as well. And you're driving around and
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  you're wanting to listen to something that just is so
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  informative. 100% download that book.
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  So we have Rita coming. We've got Amy Rez.
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  Amy is the owner of Goodness Gracious, which is a raw feeding
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  company and she's really bringing some, you know, up to
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  date information and probably a few biology lesson lessons on on
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  canines and how you know, raw really is best or, or lightly
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  cooked if you have to, but you know, do away with the kibble.
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  There's no place for that in a healthy pet.
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  And then we have Doctor Michael Dim Doctor Michael is an
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  extraordinary homoeopathic vet. He, he's been around for years.
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  He's like, I think 30 years he's been in the veterinary industry.
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  And he's got a great story, you know, of how he transitioned to
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  homoeopathy. And he's quite a vocal, you
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  know, speaker when it comes to like vaccinosis as well and
• 24:37
  helping pet owners identify what is a vax, what is vaccine damage
• 24:42
  in their pets. Because a lot of the time, you
• 24:46
  know, these illnesses and diseases are relabeled or
• 24:50
  labelled as something new, when in actual fact, they are a
• 24:54
  vaccine reaction. And they can occur within days
• 24:59
  of the vaccine given, but they can occur within years.
• 25:02
  So when there's a distance between the actual vaccine date
• 25:06
  being administered and the symptoms of whatever the
• 25:10
  supposed illness or disease is, we don't make the connection.
• 25:13
  But that is exactly what it could be.
• 25:16
  So he's going to talk at length about that.
• 25:18
  He's a very interesting man and very generous with his time.
• 25:23
  There's a few, sure quite a few people who have benefited from a
• 25:27
  lot of information he shares freely on different platforms on
• 25:32
  Facebook. So he's one to, to listen to.
• 25:36
  And then we have Caroline Ingram from the UK.
• 25:40
  Caroline is the founder of Applied Zoo Pharmacognacy.
• 25:45
  And I met Caroline or before she was actually going to come out
• 25:50
  as a guest of Henry Hottie back in I think 2019.
• 25:53
  It might have been and then COVID when everything happened.
• 25:58
  But she's extraordinary and I could listen to her for days.
• 26:02
  Her information is just, you know, it's just not discussed in
• 26:07
  mainstream, you know, conversations on pet health.
• 26:11
  It brings in a whole new perspective.
• 26:13
  And and then of course, we've got Doctor Matthew Muir, who
• 26:17
  he's the founder of the formulator of Leica.
• 26:22
  So he's certainly, you know, wanting to get the message out
• 26:27
  there on, you know, moving away from cable feeding to lightly
• 26:32
  cooked if you need. And then, yeah, Amy will be
• 26:36
  talking about the raw journey. And then of course, we've got
• 26:40
  Phevo who'll be talking about, you know, the time he's having
• 26:44
  recently with his business and what's been going on there,
• 26:50
  which will be of interest to a lot of people.
• 26:53
  I won't be speaking because public speaking is probably my
• 26:56
  biggest fear. I'm just telling myself that you
• 27:00
  and I are just having this friendly chat today.
• 27:02
  There's no recording, nothing. But yeah, the event itself is
• 27:07
  going to be, yeah, a bit of a game changer I think for
• 27:10
  Australian pet owners. And the response has been
• 27:15
  fantastic with there's a few couple of tickets left in each
• 27:18
  category, but yeah, we're very surprised how quickly they were
• 27:24
  jumped on. And I knew they would be.
• 27:26
  I knew they would be. But yeah, it just goes to show
• 27:28
  how thirsty pet parents are for information.
• 27:34
  And they, you know, they want to hear from people who aren't
• 27:37
  afraid to discuss the truth and who aren't afraid to, you know,
• 27:41
  introduce different perspectives to pet care, natural pet care.
• 27:47
  So on the day we've got like a product Expo market, so
• 27:54
  attendees can purchase some of there'll be some new releases
• 27:57
  there, which will be really exciting.
• 27:59
  We'll have demos, I'll be able to meet and greet with the
• 28:02
  speakers and have a chat. And then for the VIP ticket
• 28:06
  holders, we have a, a cocktail event that night, which will be
• 28:12
  fun to get all dressed up and, and have a lovely dinner and,
• 28:17
  and a drink if they choose and, and just mingle with the
• 28:20
  speakers again and see them in their natural habitat.
• 28:24
  It'll be, yeah, it'll be really great.
• 28:27
  I'm really looking forward to Canine Masters.
• 28:29
  I think it will be the catalyst for, you know, for change for
• 28:36
  pet parents demanding a lot of change in the industry and then
• 28:40
  we'll look at hopefully being able to repeat this in 2027.
• 28:47
  Maybe we've got some other wonderful speakers that we'd
• 28:50
  like to have out here. We did hope to have Doctor Steve
• 28:53
  Marston and his wife Karen, but the schedule was just, we
• 28:57
  couldn't align them unfortunately.
• 28:59
  But they're very keen to get out to to be able to meet the pet
• 29:03
  owners of Australia. So but no canine masters is
• 29:07
  something that I really encourage as many to attend as
• 29:12
  possible because there'll be a lot of things discussed there
• 29:16
  that we probably wouldn't be discussing outside of that
• 29:19
  closed event. Just because you can't you
• 29:23
  you've got to be, you're going to toe the line.
• 29:25
  You've got to be so careful. But you know, we want to be able
• 29:30
  to have a really honest conversation and I don't see why
• 29:34
  that's a threat to any particular agency or
• 29:37
  organisation because, you know, knowledge is power.
• 29:41
  So and if we can do the right thing by our animals, we're all
• 29:45
  happy for it. We all that's what we all want
• 29:47
  is our pets to be healthy and and happy and live long, you
• 29:52
  know, comfortable, happy. Talk about the goodie bags.
• 29:55
  There's some really great, really fantastic products down
• 29:59
  in the goodie bag, It's true. The goodie bags, Oh my gosh,
• 30:06
  there's there are some amazing products going into into our
• 30:11
  goodie bags. They're actually worth more than
• 30:12
  the tickets themselves for those who are attending in their
• 30:15
  category and the generosity that, you know, we've
• 30:20
  experienced from the people. One particular brand bearing
• 30:24
  kind apothecary. There's some there's yes.
• 30:31
  So which I absolutely love that I keep going on too about the
• 30:35
  settle petal. I have a jar of it here and I
• 30:37
  just the tin and I open it when I need to calm down.
• 30:40
  It's it's great for the nerves and the skin.
• 30:44
  So, yeah, we we've really made a point of the goody bags being,
• 30:51
  you know, something so worthwhile that every attendee
• 30:53
  will walk away thinking, you know, what I just listened to
• 30:57
  was worth every cent. But then you're taking that away
• 31:01
  again to, you know, and these are full products.
• 31:03
  They're not like little, little sachets, you know, these are.
• 31:07
  Yeah. So it's gosh, there's I don't
• 31:11
  want to give too much away because, yeah, I want it to be a
• 31:14
  surprise. We, we both do.
• 31:16
  We want it to be a surprise for those who are attending.
• 31:20
  But it really will be an event not to miss.
• 31:23
  And I, I'm so honoured to be part of it.
• 31:28
  But you know, Phoevo is, he just knows his stuff and he's going
• 31:35
  to put on a magnificent show, you know, and it's, it's a big
• 31:39
  thing to do that as well as run our own businesses.
• 31:42
  But it will be so worth it. It will be so worth it.
• 31:45
  And yeah, I look forward to after hearing the feedback from
• 31:49
  people because I, I can't imagine there won't be anyone
• 31:53
  attending that won't walk away just thinking it was.
• 31:55
  Definitely I'm I'm counting down.
• 31:58
  I'm I'm looking, I'm I'm so looking forward to just the the
• 32:03
  networking and catching up with everybody Catered lunch as well.
• 32:08
  They feed you too, everyone and the speakers as well,
• 32:13
  particularly Rita Hogan. I actually trained under her for
• 32:19
  my canine herbalism certification.
• 32:23
  And yeah, I'm, I'm a huge, huge fan of hers.
• 32:28
  Just just love her work. The amount of knowledge that she
• 32:31
  manages to fit in her brain. And the book is amazing too.
• 32:37
  So yeah, particularly looking forward to to that one.
• 32:40
  It'll be lost. Really.
• 32:41
  Well, the book will be available there too.
• 32:43
  You can either bring you, if you've got a copy of the book,
• 32:45
  you can take it and have it signed by reader or if you want,
• 32:50
  you can purchase one. We'll be having them discounted
• 32:53
  for attendees and they'll be signed copies as well.
• 32:57
  And you mentioned there about, you know, the networking.
• 33:01
  There are some attendees who celebrities in their own right
• 33:06
  that are coming along just as part of the audience.
• 33:10
  And yeah, that in itself is amazing.
• 33:12
  They're not there, you know, as to contribute as speaker or
• 33:17
  anything like that. They're there to learn, you
• 33:20
  know, what's what will be shared, the information that
• 33:23
  will be shared by our speakers. And that was really humbling
• 33:27
  actually, seeing, you know, who is coming.
• 33:30
  There was no fanfare. So you could find yourself
• 33:33
  sitting next to a couple of celebrity, you know, vets and so
• 33:38
  forth, just because they've purchased a ticket and just want
• 33:42
  to be part of the day. So yeah, it's really going to be
• 33:46
  an exciting event and there's so much we've got planned.
• 33:51
  We've got great things planned for the speakers because they're
• 33:54
  coming a long way for this. But, and I think for all of
• 33:58
  them, it's their first, except for Caroline and and Matthew, of
• 34:01
  course, as Matthew's Australian doctor.
• 34:02
  Matthew and Caroline Ingram, she comes out to Australia every so
• 34:07
  many years. But for Rita and her partner,
• 34:10
  Amy and her, her sister and Michael, this is their first
• 34:15
  time down under and we really want to make it something
• 34:19
  special for them. So as you know, much as it will
• 34:23
  be an unforgettable, unforgettable event for the
• 34:25
  attendees, it will be equally as unforgettable for our speakers.
• 34:29
  So it'll, it will be a great event and hopefully it opens up
• 34:35
  discussion in the industry, not just in the veterinary industry,
• 34:39
  but just in, you know, in the pet food industry because our
• 34:43
  fabulous, you know, sponsor is the pet food shop who you know,
• 34:52
  are bringing. They've really helped us to be
• 34:55
  able to achieve, you know, certain things for the event.
• 34:59
  And so, you know, there'll be lots and lots of things to to
• 35:04
  learn and to take away from it, you know, for the speakers and
• 35:09
  for those who are attending. So it's because the pet feed
• 35:14
  industry really needs a shake up.
• 35:16
  The pet supplement industry needs a massive shake up.
• 35:21
  Yeah. So there'll be some things
• 35:24
  happening. We've got a few plans just to, I
• 35:28
  don't know, just to bring greater transparency to the
• 35:30
  industry. It's got to happen because we've
• 35:33
  got pets dying so unnecessarily. And then we've got, you know,
• 35:40
  broken spirited humans who whose lives won't be the same without
• 35:47
  that animal. And, and I certainly know that
• 35:50
  I've lost many animals over the years, but none impacted me as
• 35:55
  great as losing Stanley. He was probably the naughtiest
• 35:59
  dog God ever put breath into. And I just would never have
• 36:03
  changed him for all the tea in China.
• 36:05
  He had so much spunk. He had just, yeah, he was a
• 36:09
  thinker. He was a comedian.
• 36:11
  And that it was, it was a death in the family.
• 36:15
  It was losing a family member. And it 100% is.
• 36:20
  So that took me a long time and still even now I have days where
• 36:26
  it just feels really hard. You know, his absence is just
• 36:31
  the weight of that is massive and it's been just over three
• 36:35
  years. So yeah, he was something else.
• 36:40
  And then I adopted a 13 year old cat from she was on death row a
• 36:47
  few months after Stan past. And I had no intention of doing
• 36:50
  that at all. And then I don't know, next
• 36:53
  thing I filled out this foster care form and she arrived and
• 36:56
  I'm like, you're our family. Like that's it.
• 37:00
  You're not going anywhere. And I have to say she has got so
• 37:04
  many mannerisms of stands. It's quite.
• 37:09
  Yeah. It's has me thinking a lot
• 37:13
  because it just wasn't by chance, by accident that this
• 37:16
  little dictator arrived in the home like she did.
• 37:19
  She's she. Yeah.
• 37:21
  She's something else. And Alice and I were grieving so
• 37:24
  much, and she just changed that. She just brought this energy
• 37:29
  into the home that was very healing.
• 37:32
  But, you know, I'd give anything to have stand back.
• 37:37
  But I think for those of us who, you know, people who lose an
• 37:40
  animal before their time, that's this.
• 37:45
  The grief is just, yeah, it goes on and on.
• 37:49
  So that's what I want to avoid for people.
• 37:52
  I want to help them, you know, by supplying products that
• 37:57
  aren't going to contribute to illness.
• 38:01
  It's going to make their pet healthier and happier and more
• 38:05
  at peace and, you know, calmer. So, yeah, which is the direction
• 38:11
  that industry needs to move to because it's not there at all at
• 38:14
  the moment. So for pet parents who are
• 38:17
  interested in finding out more about Canine Masters, where,
• 38:21
  where can they go? They can go to the website,
• 38:25
  Canine Masters website to purchase tickets.
• 38:28
  There's also a link on the Natural Pet Pharmacy homepage
• 38:33
  that will direct them to the link as well.
• 38:35
  And very simple process. But yeah, I wouldn't wait too
• 38:40
  long because I'd say within the next probably the next 4 weeks,
• 38:43
  we'll see. The tickets are all all sold for
• 38:46
  VIP attendees. It's a yeah, it'll be a big day
• 38:53
  but there is time to go home, back to the accommodation change
• 38:57
  and then come back to everything's organised, quite
• 39:00
  central and then we can also assist with the accommodation
• 39:06
  recommendations. Fevo's got a few there that will
• 39:10
  be nice and close to the venue. And then the venue itself.
• 39:14
  It's worth a visit to Melbourne just to see the Capitol Theatre.
• 39:17
  It's just an exquisite venue and we deliberately chose that one.
• 39:23
  This time around. We wanted a smaller number of
• 39:28
  seats. So I think there's like 560
• 39:32
  seats and everything's very central, but it all adds to that
• 39:37
  over overall experience. And if anyone has any issues
• 39:42
  with tickets or group purchases, give Fevo a call and yeah, and
• 39:48
  we can assist with with ticket purchases that.
• 39:51
  Way so that website caninemasters.com dot AUI
• 39:56
  wouldn't wait too long. I would definitely get in there
• 40:00
  sooner rather than later. It's going to be a fantastic
• 40:04
  event, well worth attending. So.
• 40:08
  So yeah, something's worth checking out.
• 40:10
  It is. It'll be great and it's, yeah,
• 40:13
  it'd be great to meet people. Looking forward to meeting a lot
• 40:18
  of customers from the natural Pet Pharmacy.
• 40:21
  There's a lot from Victoria. So we've been on journeys
• 40:24
  together with their pets and trying the different supplements
• 40:28
  and seeing great improvement. And yeah.
• 40:32
  And we've got many more products that will be I'll be bringing
• 40:35
  into the country just waiting for permits to be approved.
• 40:41
  Yeah. And doing my best is a bit of a
• 40:43
  battle with some of the products because they won't let them in.
• 40:45
  But they're game changing. So trying to find a way of, of
• 40:50
  bringing them into the country because we don't offer them here
• 40:53
  and they are, you know, they're changing lives.
• 40:55
  So if any of your, your viewers or listeners are, you know, have
• 41:01
  a product that they're trying to get in and they can't have, they
• 41:04
  don't have access to it, they can always drop me a line and,
• 41:07
  and I can have a look into it and see if I can bring that into
• 41:11
  the country. And Speaking of products, you've
• 41:13
  just launched a brand new line of medicinal mushroom
• 41:16
  supplements. Oh God, they're lovely.
• 41:20
  They're the line's main goes into my my espresso coffee every
• 41:26
  morning. These are beautiful mushroom
• 41:29
  powders. I'm working on some blends.
• 41:31
  I've got a couple of little things that are happening behind
• 41:33
  the scenes. They're the supplier of these
• 41:38
  mushroom powders I've been a big fan of for many years and used
• 41:43
  them myself for many years. And they're sourced from the
• 41:48
  higher region of China, So up near the, the top of China, the
• 41:54
  close to Mongolia. So everything's different up
• 41:57
  there. I think when people hear, oh,
• 41:58
  it's from China, they think it's down where the clothes are made
• 42:02
  in the southern area. And it's not, it's, it's even,
• 42:06
  you'd think it was a different country.
• 42:08
  It's just pristine up there. And there are, there are farms
• 42:12
  that are contracted and they, they all grow the mushrooms and
• 42:18
  it's the way they harvest them. That was that sealed the deal
• 42:22
  for me because they're harvested off the logs, off the trees so
• 42:28
  gently that they retain the integrity of the mushroom.
• 42:32
  They're not just kind of, you know, roughly removed.
• 42:35
  It's done with such intention and care.
• 42:38
  And that to me because everything is vibration.
• 42:41
  And that to me is really integral in in assuring the
• 42:47
  quality of the product. And I absolutely love it.
• 42:52
  Just the other day I had some organic gelatin powder and I
• 42:58
  mixed in some of the mushroom powders with that and into a
• 43:01
  mould and made these gorgeous jellos for for Allie that go in
• 43:07
  her dinner and she loves it. She'll take the mushroom powder
• 43:10
  anyway, I'll give it to her. She loves that, but it was just
• 43:13
  making it look a little bit more appealing and they're beautiful.
• 43:17
  I stand by the quality of these. I absolutely love them.
• 43:21
  And then following on from that, we'll soon be launching Northern
• 43:24
  Rivers Buffalo Dog Treats, which I have a friend of mine who has
• 43:30
  a Buffalo farm in the beautiful area of the Northern Rivers.
• 43:34
  And so, yeah, a source, source some of the products from her
• 43:41
  and the liver and kidney and heart and meat.
• 43:44
  And yeah, we're in the process of setting all that up at the
• 43:46
  moment. So they'll be sold through the
• 43:49
  natural Pet Pharmacy to begin with.
• 43:52
  And as we discussed before we started this today that my I had
• 43:57
  the bags all ready to go and to box and Alice, my dog got
• 44:03
  through the door and got through the box and helped herself to
• 44:08
  several $100 worth of products. So anyway, that's, that's how
• 44:13
  good they are. She was willing to risk me
• 44:18
  losing my brain. It's yeah, they were that good.
• 44:21
  So. And guys, a diary that.
• 44:23
  Was, oh gosh, it's probably going to be a long night.
• 44:28
  But anyway, she'll learn a very valuable lesson.
• 44:32
  Well, for today, she'll probably forget it and be back there
• 44:34
  tomorrow. Well, and I learned a lesson
• 44:38
  too. So those boxes will be kept much
• 44:42
  higher than than where they were.
• 44:45
  But anyway. But yeah, so there's lots of
• 44:47
  things coming through the natural pet pharmacy and, and at
• 44:51
  the end of the day, it's really just about, you know, providing
• 44:55
  products that are what they say they are.
• 44:58
  They're everything I would take myself and feed my own animals.
• 45:02
  They're from people like, you know, Doctor Steve Marsden, who
• 45:05
  is, you know, I have his range of gold standard herbs and which
• 45:10
  is Chinese medicine based. He's extraordinary, that man.
• 45:14
  I, every time I listen to him, I, I learn something new.
• 45:19
  So I've got those and oh gosh, trying to think now all the
• 45:24
  other products that we've got. But there's a lot and there's a
• 45:26
  lot to come, and we've got a very big surprise coming for the
• 45:31
  cat lovers of Australia. So I can't say too much about
• 45:36
  that yet. But yeah, just subscribe to the
• 45:38
  website because you'll hear hear about it first.
• 45:41
  But it's something that's long overdue in Australia for cats
• 45:45
  and it's very exciting. So what's the URL for people
• 45:49
  wanting to find you? So
• 45:51
  www.naturalpetpharmacy.com.au. And it's farm with an F, not
• 45:58
  aph. Thank you very much for saying
• 46:01
  that. Yes, it's FARMACY, so.
• 46:06
  Beautiful. Thank you so much for coming on
• 46:09
  and for your time today. It's been great chatting with
• 46:12
  you and we're definitely going to need to get you back in the
• 46:15
  new year. Lots more to talk about.
• 46:18
  Well, I just think there's so much that needs to be discussed.
• 46:21
  It's a, it's a topic that is my heart.
• 46:24
  Like I just, I'll do anything for animals.
• 46:26
  I will absolutely do anything. And yeah, so there's just so
• 46:30
  much to to discuss and I really look forward to sharing, you
• 46:34
  know, everything new to come, you know, with the pet owners of
• 46:38
  Australia and, and yeah, being on the journey with them and
• 46:42
  their pet to, to perfect natural health because that's what we
• 46:46
  want for all of them. Absolutely.
• 46:49
  Thank you so much again. Thanks for the invite, it's been
• 46:53
  a pleasure.