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Congressman Warren Davidson joins Brian Thomas this morning · Brian Thomas

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Speaker 1: Seven oh six fifty five kros Detalk Station by Thomas
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Speaker 1: Wishing your wren a very happy Friday Eve and welcoming
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Speaker 1: as I always do, with a big smile on my
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Speaker 1: face and with great thanks. Congressman Warren Davidson. It's great
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Speaker 1: to have you back on the morning show, Sir, welcome back.
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Speaker 2: Definitely, my honors. I always great to talk with you, Brian.
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Speaker 1: Let us pivot over to the primary. I'm sad to
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Speaker 1: point out that hardly anybody shows up to vote in
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Speaker 1: that and that's I mean, obviously the primaries are not
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Speaker 1: as big of a draw as a general election. But
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Speaker 1: I think as we look toward November, which emerged for me,
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Speaker 1: and I think this sort of goes with that, saying
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Speaker 1: we have to have massive voter turnout on the Republican
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Speaker 1: side of the ledger. You know, if you look at
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Speaker 1: the Democrats, a lot of them don't vote, and a
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Speaker 1: lot of Republicans don't vote. What do you get a
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Speaker 1: fifty percent turnout and a big in a big election.
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Speaker 1: You're maybe that means fifty percent of the registered voters
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Speaker 1: don't show up, So it becomes a voting numbers game
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Speaker 1: question for you. Congressman Davidson. If these high gas prices
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Speaker 1: and the inflationary reality that this war has caused people
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Speaker 1: are going to blame Donald Trump for that? Is that
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Speaker 1: going to cause people to vote against their best interests
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Speaker 1: Folks who are traditionally Republican. Are they going to turn
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Speaker 1: their backs on everything that they believe in and vote
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Speaker 1: for the other party merely because they're angry about five
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Speaker 1: dollars gas? Or might they not show up? Because I
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Speaker 1: suppose both sides of the political ledger are struggling with
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Speaker 1: that idea. How do you see this playing out in November,
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Speaker 1: Congressman Davidson.
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Speaker 2: Well, the scary thing is that people might just withdraw
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Speaker 2: and not show up. So you think, like, you know,
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Speaker 2: the people that don't vote in general. You know a
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Speaker 2: lot of times the political scientists people say, well, that's
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Speaker 2: because things are good and people are relatively happy. Well
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Speaker 2: that might be the case for some folks, but I
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Speaker 2: think what you're seeing from a lot of people is
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Speaker 2: they just don't trust the system is going to fix
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Speaker 2: it at all, or they don't like what's on the menu.
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Speaker 2: They're like, no, why would I eat? There's nothing on
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Speaker 2: the menu I want? And they're frustrated with both parties
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Speaker 2: because the results haven't been produced that Frankly, even when
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Speaker 2: you go out and elect the majority that you say, oh,
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Speaker 2: these guys are going to go do the thing that
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Speaker 2: we said we believed in the campaign. Rhetoric was so good,
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Speaker 2: You're like, but the doing part. Why are these elected
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Speaker 2: people that we elected to do things sometimes not just
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Speaker 2: not getting those things done, but occasionally doing things that
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Speaker 2: are completely contrary to what was promised in the election.
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Speaker 2: I think people are pretty disgusted by that on some fronts,
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Speaker 2: and at some level, I think even though it's the
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Speaker 2: primary instead of the general, there's some warning signs out there.
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Speaker 2: I mean, there were like twenty two thousand more people
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Speaker 2: Democrats voted in this primary than Republicans, and you know,
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Speaker 2: Republicans outnumber Democrats right now, so that's not a great
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Speaker 2: sign for Republican morale.
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Speaker 1: I agree with you completely on that it isn't. And
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Speaker 1: of course, I mean Republicans and Democrats suffer equally under
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Speaker 1: five dollars plus a gown gasoline pivoting over to Iran.
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Speaker 1: Is that situation going to be resolved in time for
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Speaker 1: the election. I mean, assuming that this is that's a
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Speaker 1: get people up off their butt to go vote issue
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Speaker 1: high prices. I worry about that because it's certainly going
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Speaker 1: to generate Democrat enthusiasm in November.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no question that's that's that's one of the challenges.
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Speaker 2: A lot of people are demoralized as Republicans because they
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Speaker 2: didn't want this, and broadly the country doesn't really like it.
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Speaker 2: It's not a popular war. And then the results are
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Speaker 2: there's no free wars, right, I mean there's a trade
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Speaker 2: off there. I mean you can look to it and say, well,
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Speaker 2: it's great that Iran doesn't have a nuclear weapon. I
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Speaker 2: guess I'm happy about that. But you know, I got
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Speaker 2: an F one fifty. It costs like one hundred and
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Speaker 2: thirty bucks to fill that sucker up. Man. That's that's
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Speaker 2: that hits the bank account for people, and that's a
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Speaker 2: that's a legit drag on the economy. You see six
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Speaker 2: dollars diesel before long, that's going to show up on
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Speaker 2: shelves and stores. You know. Right now, it's it's squeezing
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Speaker 2: lots of things. They're still high demand, and you're seeing
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Speaker 2: some of the stock market hold strong because the demand
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Speaker 2: is staying high and people look at it as something
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Speaker 2: that isn't going to necessarily be enduring, but you know,
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Speaker 2: I'm afraid that it may be enduring enough to ripple
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Speaker 2: even if it was resolved, you know by this weekend,
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Speaker 2: that there could be some implications even between now and
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Speaker 2: the election.
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Speaker 1: Indeed, you know, and then the longer term forecast. The
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Speaker 1: thing that I'm worried about is the fertilizer being held
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Speaker 1: up because you know, it's crop season. You need the
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Speaker 1: fertilizer out there to keep crop production up. And we're
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Speaker 1: going to feel an inflationary effect of that if we
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Speaker 1: don't get that straight open back up and that fertilizer
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Speaker 1: out into the world.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, so there are a lot of concerns.
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Speaker 2: I mean, this goes back to a lot of things. Though,
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Speaker 2: you know, people, I'm a free trade guy. I would
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Speaker 2: love that we don't have tariffs. But I do think
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Speaker 2: the right leverage was applied to set things in shape
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Speaker 2: for a negotiation with China, because China is really, you know,
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Speaker 2: the inner pound gorilla in the room, and people want
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Speaker 2: to pretend like, oh, everything's fine, We're just trading with them.
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Speaker 2: We're trading with them under framework that Bill Clinton spent
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Speaker 2: the nineties putting together the treated as a developing economy,
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Speaker 2: and in the nineties essentially they were. But today they're
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Speaker 2: the second largest economy in the world. They've got phenomenal
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Speaker 2: capabilities with their technology, the resources, they growing and strong
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Speaker 2: middle class, and they're abusing the rules of the trade
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Speaker 2: game to steal intellectual property with their government like a
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Speaker 2: whole government. Their intelligence agencies are targeting and stealing intellectual
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Speaker 2: property from companies like Cleveland Cliffs, Like how are they
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Speaker 2: making this greatest steal? They'll block it and shape market
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Speaker 2: access to even get into their country. Then they'll subsidize
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Speaker 2: and dump and steal market share around the world, and
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Speaker 2: they've done that very strategically. Well steal for one, but
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Speaker 2: if you look on pharmaceuticals, we can't even make our
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Speaker 2: own drugs at scale without China. You look at fertilizer
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Speaker 2: is a dependency that we have from a lot of places.
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Speaker 2: But if you want feed for animals, the vitamins that
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Speaker 2: are enriched, the rare earth minerals and critical minerals. It's
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Speaker 2: not just the mining rights. We've got a lot of
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Speaker 2: things that we mind. The processing of it is done
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Speaker 2: in China, So we are very dependent upon China's supply
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Speaker 2: chain right now. That's with no shocks. Chips are getting
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Speaker 2: a lot of attention over the past few years, and
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Speaker 2: question is what are we going to do about it?
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Speaker 2: And there may be some temporary suffering to produce a
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Speaker 2: better outcome, but that doesn't mean that everyone's going to
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Speaker 2: take that into account when they go vote.
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Speaker 1: Well, and it's going to take a long time to
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Speaker 1: unravel that. To the extent we try to unravel that
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Speaker 1: relationship with China, I just find it odd and want
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Speaker 1: to start contrast to how we treated the Soviet Union
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Speaker 1: back during the Cold War and how we treated China.
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Speaker 1: We developed this relationship with China, and you look at China.
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Speaker 1: You pointed out, it's the second largest economy in the world.
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Speaker 1: We built that. How is it that American taxpayer dollars
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Speaker 1: and the billions and billions of dollars, if not ultimately
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Speaker 1: trillions of dollars we spent in China building China's infrastructure
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Speaker 1: and offshoring our manufacturing to the communists in China. I mean,
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Speaker 1: how do we ever view that as being in our
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Speaker 1: best interest?
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Speaker 2: Concressent day, Well, look, this was the debate and both
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Speaker 2: the Republicans and Democrats in the nineteen ninety two elections
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Speaker 2: said oh yeah, we're going to make this work. And
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Speaker 2: Ross Perot was the third party candidate who said, there's
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Speaker 2: going to be a giant sucking sound of your jobs
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Speaker 2: leaving the country, and people, you know, discounted Ross Perot,
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Speaker 2: you know, said he's kind of a nutty guy. He's
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Speaker 2: an a centric billionaire or whatever. And maybe that was
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Speaker 2: a debatable thing in the nineties. You know, I was
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Speaker 2: in the army house, focused on army stuff, but I
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Speaker 2: paid attention to the debate and we look back at
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Speaker 2: the pass. He's been right, right, he's been vindicated. And
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Speaker 2: it took really until President Trump in twenty sixteen to
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Speaker 2: have a presidential level candidate say we're going the wrong way.
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Speaker 2: We have to change course. And now people are broadly
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Speaker 2: he's supporting the direction, but they don't want to take
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Speaker 2: the steps necessary to fix it. They're like, oh, yeah,
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Speaker 2: we are two dependent on China, so what are you
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Speaker 2: going to do with it? Well, I'm just going to
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Speaker 2: drop this order right now because I can get it
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Speaker 2: tomorrow and it's going to come whereas it well, it
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Speaker 2: was ship to a warehouse. It's sitting here close to
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Speaker 2: me and they'll deliver it. The convenience is great, and
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Speaker 2: people don't want to deal with the changes in the
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Speaker 2: trade regimes. I mean, I even talked with law enforcement
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Speaker 2: who are buying drones to use, and drone technology is
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Speaker 2: shaping lots of things in the world, and they use
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Speaker 2: it for you know, let's just say you're missing a
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Speaker 2: missing person. They want to go up and find that person.
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Speaker 2: Drones can do it. They can do it more safely
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Speaker 2: than a police chase, for example. But you're getting these
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Speaker 2: things for a third of the cost from China and
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Speaker 2: they're like, well, there's no American that's equivalent. I'm like, well,
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Speaker 2: the Chinese are subsidizing this, and they're just amazed that
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Speaker 2: American law enforcement is putting their tech all throughout the country,
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Speaker 2: I think. And at the end of the day, that's
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Speaker 2: what we're up against. It's hard to go against the
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Speaker 2: subsidized price. And you're like, well, howle in the long
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Speaker 2: run does this work out for China? And when you
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Speaker 2: look at the results, it seems to be working out
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Speaker 2: pretty well.
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Speaker 1: Damn well.
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Speaker 2: They're growing pretty strong.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it is an interesting Trump's first term, he
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Speaker 1: was warning about this and wanting to write the ship
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Speaker 1: of our relationship with China for all the reasons you're
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Speaker 1: talking about that and all the reasons we woke up
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Speaker 1: to because of COVID nineteen, right, I mean COVID nineteen
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Speaker 1: showed up many years after Trump was elected, and lo
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Speaker 1: and behold, what he was saying is true. We don't
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Speaker 1: make our own stuff. We find ourselves in a world
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Speaker 1: of hurt right now. So I think it got more
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Speaker 1: people on the break the relationship or whittle it down
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Speaker 1: relationship with China bandwagon Congressman Davidson.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. And you know he's headed to China here
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Speaker 2: later this month. I think this is going to be
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Speaker 2: a really high stakes situation. I do think China's in
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Speaker 2: a position to give leverage with Iran. They need the oil,
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Speaker 2: they want trade to resume. That's why I think that
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Speaker 2: the navy blockade is smart and strategic and a better
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Speaker 2: use of resources than getting into a ground war in Iran,
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Speaker 2: more likely to succeed. And China can be useful in
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Speaker 2: that because they want the oil, they want the trade,
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Speaker 2: and frankly, their economy depends on the trade at this point.
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Speaker 2: So I think it's a really high stakes negotiation for
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Speaker 2: President Trump in may it is, and it shapes the
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Speaker 2: real superpowers of today, you know landscape going forward, the
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Speaker 2: United States and China.
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Speaker 1: Well, I suppose you one has to balance. China wants
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Speaker 1: the straight of Horror moves open for its own economy. Basically,
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Speaker 1: they need the resources that are coming from from the
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Speaker 1: strait of hormones? Do they need that more than they
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Speaker 1: need the Iranian thorn in America's side that they have
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Speaker 1: been enjoying and supporting for so long? What's more important
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Speaker 1: to the Chinese government?
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Speaker 2: Congressman Davidson, Well, there's no question having the United States
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Speaker 2: bogged down in the Middle East has been good for China. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: I mean, we've squandered our wealth, We've made Central Command
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Speaker 2: the focus. All of our effort is heavily focused in
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Speaker 2: the Middle East. That China is definitely the big beneficiary
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Speaker 2: of the Ukraine War. You know, great, Well, we can't
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Speaker 2: keep you bogged down and then the least stay focused
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Speaker 2: over here in Ukraine depleting your treasury doing all this stuff.
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Speaker 2: And you know, at some level, China's worst nightmare is
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Speaker 2: getting you know, Donald Trump elected president and somebody like
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Speaker 2: peg Seth leaving the Department of War. Because now the
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Speaker 2: military is focused on you know, fighting and winning wars
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Speaker 2: and extreme confidence rather than you know, pronouns and you know,
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Speaker 2: purple hair pronoun people and all this nonsense that was
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Speaker 2: going on under the Biden administration. Isn't that? So you know,
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Speaker 2: the direction is the right way for our country. But yeah,
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Speaker 2: to your point, China would be happy to see us
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Speaker 2: continue bogged down because we're not paying attention to the Pacific. No,
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Speaker 2: we're not.
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Speaker 1: And as you pointed out a moment ago, we're going
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Speaker 1: through all of our munitions at a very very rapid pace.
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Speaker 1: Those are costly and they take a long time to replenish.
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Speaker 2: Pause.
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Speaker 1: We'll bring Congressman Davidson back, maybe talk a moment about reconciliation,
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Speaker 1: which is on the plate right now, what that might
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Speaker 1: bring about seventeen right now. If you have KCD talk
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Speaker 1: station Fashioned pro I'm sorry, yeah, seven twenty two, if
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Speaker 1: you have KRCD talks station Ryan Thomas with Congressman Warren
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Speaker 1: Davidson pivoting over to the reconciliation process. I guess my
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Speaker 1: understanding is the House and Senate both officially pass budget
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Speaker 1: resolution that initiated the reconciliation process, which means that we
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Speaker 1: don't need sixty votes in the Senate to get something done.
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Speaker 1: Enter reconciliation, which right now, the current bill is seventy
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Speaker 1: two billion dollars and it's primarily to fund ice and
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Speaker 1: homeland security. So I've already seen rumblings that people want
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Speaker 1: a third reconciliation bill. Does this one not take on enough?
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Speaker 1: Congressman Davidson, are you behind this reconciliation process? Where are
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Speaker 1: we on this one? Congressman?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is known as a skinny budget and reconciliations
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Speaker 2: like think of the Senate as say, running a blockade
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Speaker 2: on the straight at Hormuz, and this the reconciliation is
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Speaker 2: a complicated process. To break the Senate's blockade. You see
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Speaker 2: the magic word reconciliation. They go, oh, we don't have
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Speaker 2: to have sixty votes. We can actually go to the
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Speaker 2: floor and book and then a simple majority passes the Senate.
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Speaker 2: There's some strings attached. You can't really do policy. You
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Speaker 2: can just do spending or more or less spending, more
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Speaker 2: or less revenue, tax policy, and spending policy. So this
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Speaker 2: is different because most of the money has strings attached.
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Speaker 2: A lot of times you can't really put very many
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Speaker 2: strings attached to this This is why it's sort of
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Speaker 2: gaslighting to say, well, we can attach Save America Act
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Speaker 2: to that, Well, it would be stripped out because it's
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Speaker 2: purely a policy thing. You could put some spending on
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Speaker 2: election integrity or something and try to get a small
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Speaker 2: string attached, but you're not going to get a major
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Speaker 2: policy through with this magic word reconciliation. The reason it's
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Speaker 2: inadequate is it accepts the Democrats' terms. You know, they said,
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Speaker 2: we can fund homeland security, but we're not going to
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Speaker 2: vote to fund ice and border patrol, so we're not
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Speaker 2: going to allow you to have the federal government. This
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Speaker 2: is basically the Democrats sanctuary city policy is really open
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Speaker 2: rebellion to the United States authority. They're basically saying each
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Speaker 2: city and state around the country is going to decide
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Speaker 2: the lawful presence or process of removal for foreign nationals
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Speaker 2: in the United States. I was like, no, that's clearly
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Speaker 2: a federal role. The federal government decides, you know this path,
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Speaker 2: and Democrats have locked that in by literally defunding ICE
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Speaker 2: in border patrol. Unfortunately, Senate Republicans accepted that term and
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Speaker 2: they strung out the shutdown all year. So recently we
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Speaker 2: voted to fund homeland security. We only funded homeland security
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Speaker 2: without funding ICE in border patrol. So this seventy two
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Speaker 2: billion dollars skinny budget. Started to think of seventy two
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Speaker 2: billion as skinny, but in a one point seven trillion
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Speaker 2: dollars spending level, that seventy two is a small, small number.
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Speaker 2: So you get one thousand, seven hundred billion that we
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Speaker 2: spend it in a normal year through the regular appropriations process.
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Speaker 2: So this just funds three years worth of ICE in
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Speaker 2: border patrol. It gets this twenty twenty nine, so we
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Speaker 2: don't have to keep dealing with this and funds ICE
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Speaker 2: on board for what it except the terms of their debate.
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Speaker 2: And that's why Republicans are talking about doing a third
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Speaker 2: reconciliation path, because we want to disarm the Democrats up
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Speaker 2: front as we go into appropriations. And remember the government's
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Speaker 2: only supposed to be funded until September thirtieth, that's the
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Speaker 2: start of the fiscal year, so we know Democrats want
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Speaker 2: all kinds of concessions in order to vote for that,
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Speaker 2: and we don't want another shutdown right before the election.
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Speaker 2: So the way that you have leverage on that, I
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Speaker 2: mean to me, the maximum way is you just appropriate
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Speaker 2: the top line number, all one point seven trillion to
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Speaker 2: the executive branch and no strings attached, no departments, nothing,
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Speaker 2: just put it all to President Trump and the team there.
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Speaker 2: And Democrats would lose their minds, right because, like what,
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Speaker 2: you're going to let them go do whatever? Yep. And
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Speaker 2: now I don't think we get the votes in the
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Speaker 2: House to do that, but you would get Democrats ready
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Speaker 2: to negotiate because that would give complete control and leverage
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Speaker 2: to the president in terms of deciding which department gets what,
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Speaker 2: how they spend it. Everything would be sent over as
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Speaker 2: a single line item in appropriations. So they would lose
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Speaker 2: their mind and of course don't want that, and broadly
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Speaker 2: Republicans don't either. We do want a negotiation. And Democrats said, oh,
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Speaker 2: it is a negotiation. Now you're literally shutting down our
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Speaker 2: border patrol and our immigration enforcement in exchange for all
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Speaker 2: kinds of other concessions. And so they say, oh, but
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Speaker 2: you're not negotiating, which means you're not surrendering to our demands.
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Speaker 2: And so the only way you change that is you
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Speaker 2: set the terms of the fight instead of the Democrats
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Speaker 2: setting the terms of the fight. And that's why we
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Speaker 2: want reconciliation.
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Speaker 1: Three understood now, question mark, because me being the fiscal
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Speaker 1: hawk that I am, deafsitt hawk I am. Can you
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Speaker 1: defund partners of the government in a reconciliation bill that's
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Speaker 1: dollars and cents? Why don't throw some sections in there?
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Speaker 1: Just pull the plug on a lot of the money.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly what we should be doing. I mean,
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Speaker 2: those just highlighted a lot of these things, right, and
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Speaker 2: you know we can we can spend less money on
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Speaker 2: certain things. We can, you know, have offsets to pay
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Speaker 2: for spending on say three years worth of ice. We
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Speaker 2: could cut any number of things. I mean I've proposed
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Speaker 2: I think I proposed like one point two trillion dollars
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Speaker 2: worth of cuts last last year when we were doing
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Speaker 2: the big beautiful bill that was reconciliation one point zero
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Speaker 2: for this Congress. Not the first time it's been done.
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Speaker 2: I mean Democrats did it twice under Joe Biden. That
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Speaker 2: was their Build Back Better Initiative and their Inflation Reduction
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Speaker 2: Act or Green New Deal is they called it. But
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Speaker 2: they did reconciliation as well. We were doing one. We
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Speaker 2: want to catch up to them and do at least two.
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Speaker 1: Well, I guess ill like can say, is with popcorns out,
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Speaker 1: Congressman Davidson, and I like your idea, Well, my idea,
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Speaker 1: your idea stick some dfunding in that reconciliation bill, although
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Speaker 1: I don't see that happening. That's already locked in stone,
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Speaker 1: that it's seventy two billion. There's no more room for
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Speaker 1: leverage or negotiation at this point. I sort of am concluding, yeah.
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Speaker 2: Once we pass the budget that mocks in this two
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Speaker 2: point zero, but there's so much appetite to do more
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Speaker 2: that that's why they had to start promising, well, we're
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Speaker 2: going to do another one, and honestly, that would be
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Speaker 2: surprising if we get it done before the election. Honestly,
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Speaker 2: the hope is that we at least get it teed
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Speaker 2: up so that we can you know, finish the job
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Speaker 2: in the lame duck period between the election and January third,
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Speaker 2: so they'll be like the wrap up phase of this Congress,
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Speaker 2: and then you'll set the next Congress will be one
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Speaker 2: hundred nineteen. We're one hundred nineteenth Congress now will be
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Speaker 2: in one hundred and twentieth January third, twenty twenty seven.
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Speaker 2: That's when the new maps take effect and all that,
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Speaker 2: but in this one here, even though the number is
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Speaker 2: seventy two billion, we could cut spending in certain other
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Speaker 2: areas in order to do it. The hard thing is
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Speaker 2: that we just appropriated money for a lot of other things.
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Speaker 2: So we're fighting against colleagues to say, well, you can't
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Speaker 2: cut that well idea. Yeah, that's going to be the
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Speaker 2: challenge over the next few weeks.
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Speaker 1: Indeed, and you know, I saw this article from the
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Speaker 1: Hill about the Republican infighting over the possibility of a
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Speaker 1: third Reconciliation Bill, which sounds like a pretty good idea,
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Speaker 1: especially among opposition, especially among members of the Senate Appropriations Panel,
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Speaker 1: who believe it's our job, in the words of one lawmaker,
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Speaker 1: to pass funding for Pentagon under regular order. So even
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Speaker 1: Republicans have an opposition this because it sounds like they're
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Speaker 1: trying to protect their own turf, which means they're trying
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Speaker 1: to protect vested interest groups and things like that, so
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Speaker 1: they can pack their their well advanced, their particular personal
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Speaker 1: goals in a big broad bill, which means we'll have
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Speaker 1: to make concessions to the Democrats in a regular order.
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Speaker 1: That's a problem, Congressman Davidson.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's that is. Unfortunately, when people say you
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Speaker 2: want more bipartisanship, you'll be careful what you ask for
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Speaker 2: because the most bipartisan thing in Congress is appropriation. Thank you.
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Speaker 2: The appropriators have been the roadblock. I mean, we didn't
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Speaker 2: get thirty nine trillion in debt because it's a one
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Speaker 2: party problem, both parties, and they dominate the appropriations committees
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Speaker 2: in the House and Senate, and that has been the
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Speaker 2: barrier to getting this magic path through the blockade across
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Speaker 2: the finish line. Reconciliation undermines the power of the appropriators.
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Speaker 1: See, we are our own worst enemies sometimes. Congressman Davison,
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Speaker 1: thank you so much for your time here on the
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Speaker 1: fifty five KOC Morning. Shaw'll look forward to having you
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Speaker 1: on again real soon. And I keep fighting to fight,
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Speaker 1: my friend, please