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Ohio State Football Insider: 3 Things We Learned From Offensive Coordinator Arthur Smith · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: Insiders dot com. Just got a chance to talk to
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  Speaker 1: OHI State offensive coordinator Arthur Smith, wide receiver Brandon Innis,
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  Speaker 1: and offensive lineman Carson Hinsman. The show we're gonna be
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  Speaker 1: focusing on Arthur Smith. I know that as the person
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  Speaker 1: that is going to kind of get the most attention
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  Speaker 1: from everyone. And also, as Carson Hinsman said, we asked
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  Speaker 1: him about, you know, hey, when are you gonna have
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  Speaker 1: the offensive line decided? And he's like, well, that's not
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  Speaker 1: my decision, and it is kind of Arthur Smith's decision.
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  Speaker 2: So Arthur Smith was asked about who's.
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  Speaker 3: Going to me the five and what did he have
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  Speaker 3: to say, Well, he kind of spoke around it, but
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  Speaker 3: you know, he's like he's happy with the progress that
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  Speaker 3: their making, and you sort of kind of sussed it
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  Speaker 3: out that maybe it sort of sounded like, you know,
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  Speaker 3: he praised Austin Seyerveeld for being able to play four positions,
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  Speaker 3: which he said is unusual and that you see a
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  Speaker 3: lot of those guys, especially because he can not only
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  Speaker 3: play inside and out, but both sides of the line.
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  Speaker 3: But it made it sound like that he will be
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  Speaker 3: at guard and Ian Moore will be at tackle because
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  Speaker 3: he talked about some of the other guys who are
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  Speaker 3: interior guys, you know, kind of being extra guys almost
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  Speaker 3: just sort of what he made it sound like. So
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  Speaker 3: I think, I think they're happy with what they've seen
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  Speaker 3: from Gabe Van Sickle and Josh Padilla, and but it
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  Speaker 3: sounds more like those guys would be the next option,
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  Speaker 3: just to you want to kind of maybe he was
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  Speaker 3: implying that or if you want to infer that from him,
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  Speaker 3: whether or not he meant for you to infer it
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  Speaker 3: or not.
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  Speaker 4: That was sort of how we took out.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't want to put any words in his mouth,
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  Speaker 1: but I think all camp we've sort of been assuming
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  Speaker 1: the most likely outcome is Ian Moore at left tackle,
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  Speaker 1: Luke Montgomery at left guard, Carson Hintsman at center, Austin
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  Speaker 1: Serraveeld at right guard, and Philip Daniels at right tackle.
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  Speaker 1: And the reading between the lines that we did there
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  Speaker 1: felt like that was also sort of pointing in that direction.
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  Speaker 1: And so again, nothing final, nothing firm, should be a
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  Speaker 1: scrimmage on Saturday, and sometimes that's you get through the
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  Speaker 1: first scrimmage and then you know, next Tuesday or so
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  Speaker 1: is when they sort of start making some.
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  Speaker 2: Of these decisions and announcing some of that.
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  Speaker 1: And the another thing I wanted to ask you about was.
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  Speaker 4: Pace.
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  Speaker 1: That is, we get asked a lot on our board
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  Speaker 1: about offensive line and what's going to happen there. We
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  Speaker 1: get asked a lot on the board about pace on
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  Speaker 1: the offense last year, and you know, so not just hey,
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  Speaker 1: playing faster, but also some of the other sort of
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  Speaker 1: related pieces that were that sort of come into the
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  Speaker 1: chess match with the defense.
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  Speaker 5: What did Arthur Smith have to say about that?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, tempo was not so much part of the discussion,
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  Speaker 3: but Tony actually asked him about Julian saying that he
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  Speaker 3: likes to be able to go up to the line
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  Speaker 3: of scrim now with two plays and and kind of
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  Speaker 3: pick one and as as whatever fits what they're doing,
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  Speaker 3: which I think is a pretty common NFL thing, and
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  Speaker 3: you'll you'll have that in college from time to time,
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  Speaker 3: or you know, you can there's a little nuance to it,
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  Speaker 3: or how many if you've got some automatic checks and
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  Speaker 3: things like that, and so, but the upshot of that
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  Speaker 3: was Tony asked, if you know, trying to get the
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  Speaker 3: play in faster, you know, is part of that. You
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  Speaker 3: need to make sure you do that to give him
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  Speaker 3: a chance to look at it, and that led it
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  Speaker 3: to a pretty good, probably the most interesting answer that
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  Speaker 3: Smith gave that he said, well, yeah, you want to
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  Speaker 3: get him up to the line of scrimmage, and you know,
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  Speaker 3: because you've got to be able to adjust to what
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  Speaker 3: the defense is doing and you don't want to And
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  Speaker 3: this was maybe a little bit of a slip because
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  Speaker 3: Smith did a pretty good job of not saying too much,
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  Speaker 3: but he did say, you know, if you're just going
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  Speaker 3: on one every time, you know, then or actually, I
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  Speaker 3: don't think he said the count. The count came up
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  Speaker 3: a little bit, but he was more about, you'd want
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  Speaker 3: to make sure you're not snapping the ball at the
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  Speaker 3: end of the play clock every time, because then they're
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  Speaker 3: pinning their ears back, which I think is an obvious,
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  Speaker 3: pretty obvious thing. And so yes, they're working on kind
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  Speaker 3: of having more things going on, more options for the quarterback,
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  Speaker 3: more options for the line so that they're not they're
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  Speaker 3: winning that chess match at the line of scrimmage given
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  Speaker 3: them more, like I say, more options that they're not
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  Speaker 3: kind of drawn dead and working from a working from
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  Speaker 3: a disadvantage in that standpoint, which you know, I think
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  Speaker 3: a lot of people feel like there were times that
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  Speaker 3: they were in that situation last year, especially later in
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  Speaker 3: the season. Now Tony asked to follow up to Art
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  Speaker 3: about that, and he said, well, this is not my
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  Speaker 3: first interview, uh, and you know, I thought you were
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  Speaker 3: if you were trying to set that question up. I'm
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  Speaker 3: gonna respectfully not answer that question. Respectfully not answer that question.
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  Speaker 3: I wasn't here as it were, anyway, But that was
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  Speaker 3: all the confirmation that you need that, you know, I
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  Speaker 3: think that changing up the snap count you know, kind
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  Speaker 3: of getting maybe he did say, and I noticed he said,
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  Speaker 3: you know, the son of the FedEx founder. He said,
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  Speaker 3: it's all about logistics, and it's about, you know, making
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  Speaker 3: sure the process is all right, that you're in there
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  Speaker 3: and doing everything that you can as efficiently impossible, and
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  Speaker 3: that in of it self can be a way that
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  Speaker 3: you can and develop, you know, try to gain an
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  Speaker 3: advantage both here in the NFL. I asked if that
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  Speaker 3: was a bigger issue in the NFL, and his response was, well,
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to disrespect college coaches. There's plenty of
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  Speaker 3: good college coaches, which was not really what I was
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  Speaker 3: going for. It was more like in the NFL, where
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  Speaker 3: there's every game is like the Indiana game and the
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  Speaker 3: Miami game.
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  Speaker 4: You really have got to win on the margins.
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  Speaker 3: And I think Ohio State has not necessarily done that
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  Speaker 3: at times over the years. And so is that something
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  Speaker 3: that it's really more vital in the NFL, which, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I think the answer is probably yes. But that's another
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  Speaker 3: benefit of hiring an NFL coach.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, him, Matt Patricia.
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  Speaker 1: These are guys who are used to working with minute
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  Speaker 1: advantages or trying to overcome small disadvantages and in a
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  Speaker 1: spot now or half the season, you're gonna have a
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  Speaker 1: big talent advantage. That's obviously, you know, you're kind of
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  Speaker 1: playing on easy mode and then you're a little bit
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  Speaker 1: used to the other pieces of having to deal with that.
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  Speaker 1: One thing that I know that a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: have talked about with Arthur Smith is probably bringing more
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  Speaker 1: under center the Ohio State offense this year. It's certainly
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  Speaker 1: something we have seen in the practices we've been in.
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  Speaker 1: You've seen more of Julian Sand under center as opposed
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  Speaker 1: to being in the shotgun. That's another where area where yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that could probably help with a snap count a little
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  Speaker 1: bit where you're not.
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  Speaker 5: Doing a silent count or any of that.
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  Speaker 1: So what did he have to say about how much
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  Speaker 1: are they going to be on the under center this year?
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  Speaker 5: Is this exclusive thing? Like, what did he have to
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  Speaker 5: say about that?
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  Speaker 3: Well, he was quick to deny the fact that maybe
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  Speaker 3: they'll be under center a lot, but in a certain
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  Speaker 3: way that meant they probably will be And he said, well,
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  Speaker 3: you never know what we might be doing. We don't
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  Speaker 3: want to give it away to our opponents and things
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  Speaker 3: like that, which, you know, I think that there's little
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  Speaker 3: doubt that from what we've seen and what he's done
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  Speaker 3: in the past, you know, I think you'll see a
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  Speaker 3: lot of that. Well, I think that maybe the most,
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  Speaker 3: and I haven't gone back and lessened to it a
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  Speaker 3: second time, but I think the most interesting thing that
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  Speaker 3: he said was sometimes that's a way to calm everything
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  Speaker 3: down and to make sure your fundamentals are in the
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  Speaker 3: right place. And he said that's another thing that he's
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  Speaker 3: kind of learned with some back and forth with the
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  Speaker 3: veteran quarterbacks he's worked with the last few years. And
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  Speaker 3: I was kind of thinking in my head, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I think Matt Ryan was probably normally an under center guy,
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  Speaker 3: but Russell Wilson played in the shotgun a lot, and
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  Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure I think Aaron Rodgers is a guy
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  Speaker 3: who is a veteran old school guy who became more
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  Speaker 3: of a shotgun guy, but he's still got that that
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  Speaker 3: under center base, which I kind of think the same thing.
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  Speaker 3: And if listening to Bengals coverage here in the spring,
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  Speaker 3: Joe Flacco had a long kind of diatribe about how
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  Speaker 3: how many good things can happen when you get under center,
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  Speaker 3: and he'd be another guy like Aaron Rodgers kind of
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  Speaker 3: he's been.
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  Speaker 4: There for the whole the whole era.
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  Speaker 3: Of everybody was under center, to everybody was in the shotgun,
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  Speaker 3: to now it's kind of coming back the other way.
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  Speaker 3: And so I thought that was the most interesting thing
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  Speaker 3: when he talked about calming things down sort of, you know,
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  Speaker 3: making sure the fundamentals are right, because to me, I
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  Speaker 3: think that's what a lot of the you know, in
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  Speaker 3: the shotgun, a lot of guys you snap on the ball,
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  Speaker 3: they look around, and it's easy for the fundamentals to
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  Speaker 3: kind of fade. Footwork and stuff like that. And if
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  Speaker 3: you're old enough to you know, have kind of gone
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  Speaker 3: through and watched how some of these under center stuff is.
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  Speaker 3: You know, there's certain movements that it has to be
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  Speaker 3: a certain way, and your steps have to be a
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  Speaker 3: certain way, and that gives you to a certain base
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  Speaker 3: and it just makes you more consistent. And I think
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  Speaker 3: that that's what he was kind of referring to. And
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  Speaker 3: and I think Julian was fine under center last year,
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  Speaker 3: but like any other young quarterback, he probably hadn't done
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  Speaker 3: it very much before. And so you know, I think
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  Speaker 3: you can only you can imagine that that's something that
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  Speaker 3: will that will improve. I mean I also think, you know,
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  Speaker 3: you make it harder for the defense.
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  Speaker 4: When you're kind of changing what you're doing. It just
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  Speaker 4: kind of changes the tempo of the play.
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  Speaker 5: So there you go.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Julian Satin does feel like, you know, second year
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  Speaker 1: not only more comfortable and to start a more comfortable
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  Speaker 1: and everything. This is this is the first time they've
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  Speaker 1: had a returning starting quarterback in a little while, so
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  Speaker 1: this is a little bit of a luxury for Ohio States.
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  Speaker 4: So there you go.
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  Speaker 1: A couple of things we learned talking to Ohio State
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  Speaker 1: offensive coordinator Arthur Smith.
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  Speaker 5: He's he's an interesting interview.
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  Speaker 2: He has been around the block.
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  Speaker 1: He is not someone you can trick into saying stuff
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  Speaker 1: by any means, but someone who has some a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of a different view on things than.
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  Speaker 5: Heartline, for example, last year is out. That's a coordinator.
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  Speaker 3: So I mean, I think Heartline was kind of honestly,
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  Speaker 3: I feel like he was kind of swimming.
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  Speaker 4: Even in the interviews. You could kind of see there.
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  Speaker 3: Was a lot of things going because Heartline is a
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  Speaker 3: guy who is interested in a lot of different things.
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  Speaker 4: But he I don't know, he wasn't he wasn't an
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  Speaker 4: offensive greur. He wasn't an expert.
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  Speaker 3: He was like learning some of these things and how
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  Speaker 3: to implement them at the same time as everybody else.
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  Speaker 3: I think that was a little bit of a you
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  Speaker 3: could see. I don't know if he necessarily was on
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  Speaker 3: top of what the plans were at all times. When
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  Speaker 3: Arthur Smith is a guy who has an accomplished offensive
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  Speaker 3: coordinator and has been a head coach and went back
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  Speaker 3: to being a coordinator, so he's even kind of seen
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  Speaker 3: the different things that go on with when you're the
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  Speaker 3: guy to make the plan, you're the guy who signs
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  Speaker 3: off on the plan and all of those things. So
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  Speaker 3: I think that having the having all that that authority,
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  Speaker 3: I think will be a really good thing for him.
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  Speaker 1: All Right, Well, if you want to hear more from
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