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- 0:02Speaker 1: This is the Appetizer Hour with Brett Caine on demand.
- 0:06Speaker 1: Check out Bread weekday mornings at six on Altitude Sports
- 0:10Speaker 1: Radio ninety five and on the Altitude Sports Radio.
- 0:14Speaker 2: App Third down and five from the Denver forty Knicks
- 0:25Speaker 2: out of the gun. See the Packers bring some pressure
- 0:27Speaker 2: and they do.
- 0:28Speaker 3: It's picked up nicely, mixed sex in a costamental in
- 0:31Speaker 3: his cat Shalin Waddle his first catch remember of the
- 0:35Speaker 3: Denver Broncos, and it's good for thirty yards.
- 0:38Speaker 1: In the first down.
- 0:39Speaker 4: Protection was great Nicks.
- 0:41Speaker 5: I'm a money to Waddle and Broncos country hoping to
- 0:45Speaker 5: see that combination for years to call third down and six.
- 0:48Speaker 5: Interesting play here just outside the red zone for the Broncos.
- 0:52Speaker 5: Packers rush four Nicks right sidelines.
- 0:56Speaker 4: Gott a man, It's.
- 0:57Speaker 3: Caught burnt j Harvey of a wheel out of the field,
- 1:01Speaker 3: twenty one yards strike.
- 1:03Speaker 5: Welcome back, bone Knicks the the Broncos.
- 1:06Speaker 1: On the board.
- 1:09Speaker 4: So the Broncos preseason winning streak comes to an end.
- 1:13Speaker 4: But I gotta be honest, that first drive was kind
- 1:15Speaker 4: of all I needed to say. Uh, you get bow
- 1:19Speaker 4: Knicks back out on a football field looking normal. You
- 1:23Speaker 4: have him going six of nine for seventy six yards
- 1:26Speaker 4: and a touchdown using different receivers. The nice thing is
- 1:32Speaker 4: you wanted to see maybe a continuation of the the
- 1:39Speaker 4: tempo and rhythm from game one going into game two
- 1:43Speaker 4: with bow Knicks at the helm. And in the first
- 1:46Speaker 4: game he had a six play drive for a touchdown.
- 1:48Speaker 4: In the second game, you had a six play drive
- 1:50Speaker 4: for a touchdown to open it up. That's what you
- 1:52Speaker 4: want to see. And just on that first with the
- 1:57Speaker 4: starters in the two plays that Nelly just gave for
- 2:03Speaker 4: you there in the intro, the throw over the middle
- 2:08Speaker 4: to Jalen Waddle and you're gonna like this because we
- 2:14Speaker 4: can start bringing this back. When Jalen Waddle catches the
- 2:18Speaker 4: football and has room, he makes guys miss, also known
- 2:27Speaker 4: as one of my favorite drops that Nelly does. He
- 2:32Speaker 4: catches the ball and makes guys miss for more yardage,
- 2:36Speaker 4: which is called yick. That is what the offense has
- 2:44Speaker 4: been missing for a while. For as good as guys
- 2:47Speaker 4: like Courtland Sutton are, they aren't really catch the ball,
- 2:51Speaker 4: make you miss guys and there isn't too many of
- 2:53Speaker 4: those on the team now with Jalen Waddle and just
- 2:56Speaker 4: one catch and you could tell how pumped he was
- 2:58Speaker 4: about it. Do you make the catch, make a couple
- 3:02Speaker 4: of guys miss, and then it's raw speed to get
- 3:05Speaker 4: by everybody. Yeah, that along with another thing that I
- 3:10Speaker 4: kind of filed in the back of my head of RJ.
- 3:12Speaker 4: Harvey is going to be I think a pretty big
- 3:14Speaker 4: part of this offense, just not from a traditional running standpoint.
- 3:18Speaker 4: It's exactly what you saw on the touchdown. Beat somebody
- 3:22Speaker 4: to a sideline on a wheel route, make the catch
- 3:24Speaker 4: and go from there, it's get the ball out of
- 3:28Speaker 4: the backfield and make a guy miss and go. I
- 3:32Speaker 4: think that he is going to be much more in
- 3:34Speaker 4: the vein.
- 3:35Speaker 1: Of a.
- 3:38Speaker 4: God. He could be a sixty catch guy out of
- 3:40Speaker 4: the backfield this year because I think that's him in
- 3:44Speaker 4: open space is where he does most of his damage.
- 3:48Speaker 4: But just right there, two plays on that drive where
- 3:51Speaker 4: it's get the ball to Jalen Model, have him make
- 3:54Speaker 4: a couple of moves and get that yak, and then
- 3:59Speaker 4: you find our J. Harvey on a wheel route because RJ.
- 4:01Speaker 4: Harvey is really athletic and fast. Have him run by
- 4:05Speaker 4: some people. Put the ball on the money. You lost
- 4:08Speaker 4: thirty three to thirteen.
- 4:11Speaker 2: So what.
- 4:13Speaker 4: So what I mean I know in the the first
- 4:22Speaker 4: drive for the Packers, they go down the field twelve plays,
- 4:25Speaker 4: sixty three yards, they score. I'm not concerned about the defense.
- 4:29Speaker 4: I think they're gonna be fine, more than fine, really good.
- 4:34Speaker 4: But it's just a couple of different things. Excuse me,
- 4:39Speaker 4: that the Broncos did in that game that I liked,
- 4:42Speaker 4: and yeah, was it. It wasn't a great watch. We'll
- 4:47Speaker 4: just put it that way. If there is one thing
- 4:50Speaker 4: about that game that I think is quasi interesting is
- 4:53Speaker 4: that Stinham didn't look great, had the interception, but didn't
- 5:00Speaker 4: really play. So I don't know what to do with
- 5:03Speaker 4: that information. I mean, maybe Game three is the really
- 5:08Speaker 4: important thing for those two in their battle for who's
- 5:11Speaker 4: gonna be the backup? Very well could be. It just
- 5:17Speaker 4: feels like Jared Stidham, like it has kind of this
- 5:19Speaker 4: entire time we talked about this being a backup quarterback battle.
- 5:23Speaker 4: I don't I don't really don't think it is. It
- 5:28Speaker 4: just feels to me that it's been his job the
- 5:37Speaker 4: entire time. I don't think that the the coaching staff,
- 5:47Speaker 4: front office, whatever is super concerned about saving an extra
- 5:51Speaker 4: three four and a half million dollars because what are
- 5:55Speaker 4: you gonna do with it this year? Anyway? They want
- 6:00Speaker 4: to have the best backup quarterback there, and I think
- 6:02Speaker 4: they thought the entire time that it's been Jared Stidham.
- 6:08Speaker 4: So I think a success in that second preseason game
- 6:15Speaker 4: despite losing by twenty points, because who cares about the
- 6:18Speaker 4: final score. This is about going out in making sure
- 6:24Speaker 4: that your your starting units, your first team offense looks good.
- 6:29Speaker 4: That's what you want to see, and they had that.
- 6:33Speaker 4: So second half was kind of like a blur of bad.
- 6:39Speaker 4: It felt very preseason football. Ye in the second half,
- 6:43Speaker 4: all you needed was the first couple of drives. BONICKX
- 6:48Speaker 4: going out there getting two scoring drives, Get the hell out,
- 6:50Speaker 4: We're done. That's what you want to see. So three
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- 9:35Speaker 4: So look at windows again, Broncos, go out opening drive
- 9:41Speaker 4: play well outside of that. You know what's interesting is
- 9:46Speaker 4: that that first drive Patzertan had to make like four
- 9:54Speaker 4: tackles in that and then he finally ended up blowing
- 9:56Speaker 4: up Who the hell was it that he blew up?
- 9:58Speaker 4: Somebody on the sideline for Green Bay, And I'm like,
- 10:03Speaker 4: just certain is he like, this is preseason, guys, Stop
- 10:06Speaker 4: making me hit people. I'm done hitting people. But here's
- 10:14Speaker 4: what you want out of a Broncos game for me anyway,
- 10:18Speaker 4: because I feel confident enough in the defense that whatever
- 10:22Speaker 4: happens sort of happens. You want to come away with
- 10:24Speaker 4: nobody getting hurt, and you want to come away with
- 10:26Speaker 4: the offense looking like they're they have a flow to them,
- 10:33Speaker 4: and that's what you got. You got the offense going
- 10:37Speaker 4: out there playing well, the starters anyway, and you got
- 10:43Speaker 4: most guys coming out of there unscathed. Another name that
- 10:47Speaker 4: I was looking for to try. And we still don't
- 10:54Speaker 4: know exactly what's gonna happen with Jonathan Cooper. It's been
- 10:56Speaker 4: so silent that maybe it's just like, you know, disappearing
- 11:00Speaker 4: off in the distance somewhere and we don't have to
- 11:02Speaker 4: worry about some potential X, Y and Z punishment. But
- 11:07Speaker 4: if he does end up getting disciplined by the league
- 11:12Speaker 4: in one way or another, you want guys to be
- 11:15Speaker 4: able to step up in his position and give you
- 11:19Speaker 4: quality snaps. And I always thought one of those guys
- 11:22Speaker 4: could be Ke Robinson. The rush that he had to
- 11:25Speaker 4: beat his man, which was sort of Von millerish of
- 11:29Speaker 4: quick off the snap, dip, keep your speed and leverage
- 11:33Speaker 4: and then find the quarterback. I've always thought that he
- 11:37Speaker 4: has an immense amount of potential. And if you are
- 11:41Speaker 4: missing a guy for X amount of games, like Jonathan
- 11:46Speaker 4: Cooper this year, you're gonna have to have some dude
- 11:48Speaker 4: step up into rotational roles, and he could certainly be
- 11:51Speaker 4: one of them, because I think he has a skill
- 11:53Speaker 4: to do it. Good to see him get on the
- 11:55Speaker 4: board with a sack, if there's one one sort of
- 12:00Speaker 4: negative to it. You did see Riley Moss leave holding
- 12:04Speaker 4: some ribs. Now, I don't know, Nelly. Was there some
- 12:07Speaker 4: sort of update in the post game from Sean Payton on.
- 12:09Speaker 6: This currently sifting through all of his postgame relative to
- 12:17Speaker 6: what he had to say, so I'll let you know
- 12:18Speaker 6: if I find something.
- 12:21Speaker 4: Did exit the game holding ribs Soon after, Moss was
- 12:27Speaker 4: escorted by the trains to the locker room, did not return.
- 12:30Speaker 4: Sean Payton said, good, we'll see. That's what he said
- 12:38Speaker 4: after the game about Riley Moss. I don't think he
- 12:41Speaker 4: would throw in the good unless he had some sort
- 12:44Speaker 4: of decent idea that he's gonna be all right. But
- 12:53Speaker 4: that's the one update that I saw after the game.
- 12:58Speaker 4: So beyond that, who knows. Now. A lot of stuff
- 13:00Speaker 4: happened over the weekend, obviously a lot with the Broncos,
- 13:02Speaker 4: but there's also a lot that we had going on
- 13:06Speaker 4: in the NBA. The Nuggets made a move for Deamar DeRozan.
- 13:10Speaker 4: I want to talk about how that impacts things and
- 13:13Speaker 4: what the current and overall situation is with the Nuggets
- 13:16Speaker 4: as we sort of move forward here. Surprised that he
- 13:21Speaker 4: signed for the VET minimum. Happy that he signed for
- 13:23Speaker 4: the VET minimum. So we'll get to that in just
- 13:25Speaker 4: a couple of minutes. But bottom line is, if you're
- 13:35Speaker 4: a Broncos fan watching that preseason game Friday night, I
- 13:40Speaker 4: think you've got most of what you wanted to see
- 13:42Speaker 4: immediately out of the gates. And that's what's nice about
- 13:44Speaker 4: things like that is if you're playing starters for you
- 13:48Speaker 4: know that fourteen whatever snaps, they go out, do their thing,
- 13:52Speaker 4: have a couple of scoring drive, score a touchdown, then
- 13:55Speaker 4: you can kick your feet up and just kind of
- 13:56Speaker 4: be like, all right, whatever happens happens from here. So
- 13:59Speaker 4: a lot more to discussed with this as we broadcast
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- 14:05Speaker 4: I do want to get to the DeMars Rosen signing
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- 15:12Speaker 4: Jamar Derozen does land with the Denver Nuggets. He does
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- 15:17Speaker 4: Pelicans during free agency. Schams has said he chose Denver
- 15:25Speaker 4: for a more significant role with a chance to compete
- 15:29Speaker 4: in the West. The Nuggets made a strong recruitment effort,
- 15:32Speaker 4: showing Derosen how he would compliment Yokich and Murray as
- 15:35Speaker 4: an additional playmaker. Here's what's funny to me. Nuggets signed
- 15:40Speaker 4: to mar De Rozan and I see all these casuals
- 15:43Speaker 4: on the internet saying the Nuggets news starting five Murray, Derozen,
- 15:48Speaker 4: Cam Johnson, Gordon and Jokic. The Rosen is not going
- 15:52Speaker 4: to start. He's not gonna He is going to come
- 15:59Speaker 4: off the bench. Brown is your starting two. And I
- 16:03Speaker 4: am very very confident that Christian Brown, assuming he's healthy
- 16:11Speaker 4: to start this season, will have a bounce back year.
- 16:16Speaker 4: And I think he's a good player. I think that
- 16:18Speaker 4: too many people took stock last year and because he
- 16:21Speaker 4: just signed the contract and he had a down year
- 16:25Speaker 4: because he wasn't right, he didn't have the same burst
- 16:28Speaker 4: and lift that he used to have. I think that
- 16:31Speaker 4: once he gets that ankle. Heeled up this offseason. He's
- 16:33Speaker 4: going to be much better and we can call off
- 16:37Speaker 4: the dogs a little bit on getting after him. He
- 16:39Speaker 4: is not taking the Mark Rosen is not taking his
- 16:42Speaker 4: starting role on this team. The Mark Rosen needs to
- 16:45Speaker 4: fill a role that you desperately need, which is a
- 16:47Speaker 4: bench player that you trust. I mean, think about this
- 16:52Speaker 4: for a second. You lost last year a guy off
- 16:56Speaker 4: the bench that made over two hundred threes. Now he's
- 16:59Speaker 4: not going to do that. The marj Rozen is not
- 17:05Speaker 4: a three point sniper, but he gets buckets, and you
- 17:10Speaker 4: need somebody who gets buckets. And the thing I like
- 17:12Speaker 4: about him is he is capable of getting inside the paint,
- 17:16Speaker 4: getting inside the three point line, and scoring in the
- 17:19Speaker 4: mid range because no matter what, if your SHOT's falling
- 17:24Speaker 4: or not. One thing that seems to me to be
- 17:32Speaker 4: sort of a shot inconsistency proof. What am I trying
- 17:38Speaker 4: to say here is a mid range game. If you
- 17:42Speaker 4: have a mid range game, that kind of translates no
- 17:44Speaker 4: matter what the flow of the game is, and that's
- 17:46Speaker 4: the kind of stuff that matters. All I wanted to
- 17:53Speaker 4: really bring up the people with this to Marg Rosen
- 17:55Speaker 4: thing is he is someone that feels a desperate role
- 18:00Speaker 4: of trusted veteran player coming off the bench. Think about it,
- 18:08Speaker 4: What does the Nuggets roster look like right now? If
- 18:10Speaker 4: you go through the depth chart, we all kind of
- 18:12Speaker 4: see this starting five, and you say, the starting five
- 18:14Speaker 4: looks good. I like it. I like the starting five
- 18:18Speaker 4: that is competitive with any starting five in the league
- 18:22Speaker 4: when healthy. But when you went to the bench before
- 18:24Speaker 4: this signing, it was Tias Jones, Julian Strather, Spencer Jones,
- 18:30Speaker 4: Marvin Bagley, Alpha Diallo, Lonnie Walker, Zeke Naji, Deron Holmes,
- 18:35Speaker 4: Trevin Brazil. There's a whole bunch of guys you had
- 18:37Speaker 4: no idea. At least you now have one dude in
- 18:45Speaker 4: the martiros In that you're like, I know exactly what
- 18:48Speaker 4: I'm getting and a Texas says he can't shoot in
- 18:50Speaker 4: a shooting league. Yet you're right about that. You know
- 18:53Speaker 4: what he's done though in his career, he's one of
- 18:56Speaker 4: the top scorers in the history of basketball. In fact,
- 19:02Speaker 4: where does DeMar DeRozan rink in all time points? He's eighteenth.
- 19:13Speaker 4: He averaged last year eighteen point four points per game
- 19:17Speaker 4: on thirty one minutes a night. Do not play this
- 19:22Speaker 4: card I have been more upset than I don't maybe
- 19:28Speaker 4: anybody on the airwaves here in Denver about Peyton Watson
- 19:33Speaker 4: being traded. I'm not I was was not in im
- 19:36Speaker 4: not happy about that. I still think you should have
- 19:42Speaker 4: gone whatever route you had to to keep him here.
- 19:47Speaker 4: But signing DeMar DeRozan, there's no bad in this. Signing
- 19:54Speaker 4: DeMar DeRozan is a good thing for this team. It
- 19:59Speaker 4: puts at least a little bit of a salve on
- 20:02Speaker 4: what you lost this offseason. And not just Peyton Watson,
- 20:06Speaker 4: but Tim Hardaway Junior and Bruce Brown and Jonas Valanciunas
- 20:13Speaker 4: and everything else. It puts a salve on it. And
- 20:19Speaker 4: so at the end of the day, you needed a
- 20:21Speaker 4: trusted veteran player somewhere coming off that bench, and a
- 20:25Speaker 4: guy who can and is capable of scoring and scoring
- 20:29Speaker 4: a lot, even at thirty seven years old. He just
- 20:33Speaker 4: turned thirty seven a couple of weeks ago, still putting
- 20:36Speaker 4: up eighteen and a half points per game, still capable.
- 20:39Speaker 4: He had. Here's just some some games he had throughout
- 20:42Speaker 4: the course of the year. Twenty eight points, thirty three points,
- 20:46Speaker 4: forty one, thirty nine, thirty two, thirty four, thirty seven,
- 20:55Speaker 4: thirty three, twenty seven, twenty nine. He had a ton
- 21:02Speaker 4: of those throughout the course of the year. He's not dead.
- 21:10Speaker 4: He's a veteran aging player who's on a minimum contract
- 21:14Speaker 4: that could score off the bench. Good need it? What
- 21:19Speaker 4: you got in? Ellie? Are you just listening or you're looking?
- 21:22Speaker 4: You have that look like you're hovering over the microphone.
- 21:24Speaker 6: You know sometimes I yeah, I know, I have that look.
- 21:26Speaker 6: I could tell I'm just wondering. We're kind of flying
- 21:29Speaker 6: blind here do we How do we want to work
- 21:31Speaker 6: in this?
- 21:32Speaker 4: This sounder? We can't? How about this? Yeah, let's do
- 21:41Speaker 4: it now, go ahead.
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- 23:02Speaker 6: Where does that stack up against? You know how in
- 23:05Speaker 6: forty nine of the US states. When you're a kid
- 23:09Speaker 6: growing up, you played duck duck goose.
- 23:11Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 23:11Speaker 6: Do you know what they play in Minnesota?
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- 23:27Speaker 6: If you ever want to get Katie Winjy going, just
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- 23:55Speaker 4: South Carolina duck, Minnesota gray duck. I really just I
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- 24:06Speaker 4: thousand lakes in Wisconsin has more lakes than you have.
- 24:09Speaker 4: You can't even claim to be the lake place. And
- 24:13Speaker 4: you've built your identity on lakes. You aren't even the
- 24:17Speaker 4: lake one.
- 24:17Speaker 6: And when Minneapolis, excuse me, when the Lakers left Minneapolis,
- 24:21Speaker 6: they kept the name and they took it to La
- 24:23Speaker 6: where there's no.
- 24:24Speaker 4: Lakes anyway, Nellie, do you have the audio of Rich
- 24:30Speaker 4: Paul discussing what look, I don't know if this is
- 24:35Speaker 4: the smoking gun that people want to make this out
- 24:38Speaker 4: to be and I'll explain in a second. I just
- 24:40Speaker 4: want to make sure. I can't remember does this have
- 24:42Speaker 4: cursing in it. I've listened to too much audio over
- 24:45Speaker 4: the weekend with cursing in it. I can't remember if
- 24:47Speaker 4: this has it or not. But give it a quick listen.
- 24:54Speaker 4: I don't think this is the smoking gun that people
- 24:56Speaker 4: are making this out to be. This is always going
- 25:00Speaker 4: to be a discussion for somebody when they're in a
- 25:02Speaker 4: contract year, if you're injured, do you play through the injury?
- 25:06Speaker 4: Do you do this and that? And so in the
- 25:10Speaker 4: case of Peyton Watson, you know, the rumor came out
- 25:14Speaker 4: that while they're negotiating they might have been soured a
- 25:17Speaker 4: little bit on the idea they thought that he was
- 25:19Speaker 4: capable of playing in the postseason and decided not to
- 25:22Speaker 4: because of his contract. And then they pointed to Aaron
- 25:24Speaker 4: Gordon and said, well, Gordon's out there putting his body
- 25:26Speaker 4: on the line. It's a little bit different story if
- 25:31Speaker 4: it's about a contract. Well, Aaron Gordon is locked into
- 25:33Speaker 4: a contract that, to be honest, you wish you could
- 25:36Speaker 4: get out of in some ways. So with that, I
- 25:47Speaker 4: don't what's so dumb about this stuff is that nobody.
- 25:51Speaker 4: It's just like everything in life right now. Nobody wants
- 25:54Speaker 4: to be in the middle of anything. Like the answer
- 25:58Speaker 4: is always in the middle. If you disagree, if you
- 26:01Speaker 4: think one thing on a subject or issue and the
- 26:04Speaker 4: other person thinks another way on a subject or issue,
- 26:06Speaker 4: what you have to do is probably come to a
- 26:09Speaker 4: compromise or the answer somewhere in the middle. And nobody
- 26:11Speaker 4: wants to do that. They want to pick aside and
- 26:13Speaker 4: then just argue that side to the death because we're
- 26:15Speaker 4: all now debaters. I suppose I'm somebody. I'm very willing
- 26:21Speaker 4: just to be like, okay, you win, doesn't matter. But
- 26:25Speaker 4: in the case of Peyton Watson, people heard this and
- 26:30Speaker 4: they dug even more entrenched into their stances and said, aha,
- 26:35Speaker 4: I told you so. Here's Rich Paul.
- 26:37Speaker 7: So he was a restricted free agent. I remember he
- 26:41Speaker 7: did not finish the season. He didn't play in the playoffs.
- 26:44Speaker 7: He was dealing with a hamstring injury, soft tissue injury.
- 26:47Speaker 7: And when you're dealing with those injuries, you have to
- 26:49Speaker 7: be very careful in your return. Guys want to play,
- 26:52Speaker 7: you have to protect them from themselves in that moment
- 26:55Speaker 7: because you up for a contract and it's the playoffs
- 26:59Speaker 7: and I've had a pretty good year. Yeah, so I
- 27:02Speaker 7: need to play and it's important to protect that.
- 27:09Speaker 4: So people are taking this as I told you, and
- 27:14Speaker 4: what Look, I'm not stumping for Rich Paul. I think
- 27:17Speaker 4: that what he's got going on with his you know,
- 27:19Speaker 4: his relationship with Lebron and then owning this agency and
- 27:23Speaker 4: having essentially the best talents in the NBA is part
- 27:26Speaker 4: of that agency. I think all of this is very
- 27:28Speaker 4: insider trading sort of stuff. I don't like it at all,
- 27:32Speaker 4: and I'm not particularly fond of him either. But what
- 27:37Speaker 4: did he say? When your guy is hurt and wants
- 27:40Speaker 4: to play in the playoffs, you need to protect him
- 27:42Speaker 4: from himself a little bit, right, Peyton Watson. This would
- 27:47Speaker 4: be a much different story if Watson was out for
- 27:49Speaker 4: four months before this and then this discussion occurred. You
- 27:53Speaker 4: have to remember Peyton Watson was hurt with the hamstring,
- 27:56Speaker 4: came back, played like a get was it a half
- 28:00Speaker 4: a quarter? A quarter, and then left again with the
- 28:06Speaker 4: hamstring injury which sidelined him for a couple of more months.
- 28:13Speaker 4: You have discussions with guys who are through injuries saying
- 28:16Speaker 4: is this going to be worth it? If anything? That
- 28:24Speaker 4: sounded to me like Peyton Watson was trying to play
- 28:28Speaker 4: and he's being held back. Now the Nuggets, they probably
- 28:31Speaker 4: wanted him out there on the I don't know. Here's
- 28:34Speaker 4: the thing I don't know. I can tell you, says Brett.
- 28:38Speaker 4: Stop defending this kid. He wanted the big money handed
- 28:40Speaker 4: to him, he had the chance of blah blah blah.
- 28:42Speaker 4: I don't think you're hearing me. I have never denied that.
- 28:47Speaker 4: That's pretty much that part of this has been admitted
- 28:51Speaker 4: by Rich Paul. What you wanren't hearing is what was
- 28:56Speaker 4: he going to play on? Was it sixty five percent healthy?
- 29:01Speaker 4: Was it ninety five? Was it seventy percent? That does
- 29:07Speaker 4: matter to me now I always go back to it,
- 29:12Speaker 4: but I think it's important because we've been through this before.
- 29:17Speaker 4: Somebody has been excoriated for being, in Layman's terms, a
- 29:23Speaker 4: wuss for not going out there and playing with a
- 29:26Speaker 4: soft tissue injury. It's a very very good player, very
- 29:29Speaker 4: good Hall of Fame player, in the middle of his prime,
- 29:33Speaker 4: with his team in the postseason, and they said we
- 29:35Speaker 4: need you, gosh, we need you, please get back on
- 29:38Speaker 4: the floor. And after weeks of being criticized, he finally
- 29:43Speaker 4: says fine, and then Kevin Durant's achilles blows up in
- 29:48Speaker 4: like the biggest I told you so for him ever,
- 29:52Speaker 4: and we don't really care. We're like, oh, I guess
- 29:54Speaker 4: he was actually hurt. That was our reaction. All I'm
- 30:01Speaker 4: saying is what Aaron Gordon does in plays through injury
- 30:08Speaker 4: on You know, we did it a couple of years
- 30:10Speaker 4: ago in game seven of that Thunder series. Tried to
- 30:13Speaker 4: do it in the middle of this series. It's much
- 30:17Speaker 4: easier to do when you have a long term contract
- 30:22Speaker 4: to place and that's it. But I saw a lot
- 30:29Speaker 4: of people talking about this like, ah, I told you so,
- 30:32Speaker 4: and I go. There was no mention of how hurt
- 30:34Speaker 4: he was. So three three five oh four oh nine
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- 31:18Speaker 4: Jokichen Wenby were in action. I do want to get
- 31:21Speaker 4: back to the NFL. Something that went down that I
- 31:24Speaker 4: think has a massive implication on a battle that's been
- 31:32Speaker 4: brewing for about a year in training camp. And we'll
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- 32:07Speaker 4: dot com. So I think that this battle that has
- 32:16Speaker 4: taken place and has been like bubbling on the surface
- 32:19Speaker 4: for over a year. I think it was settled over
- 32:22Speaker 4: the weekend, and it wasn't settled by the play of
- 32:25Speaker 4: either quarterback. I gotta tell you watched little bit because
- 32:32Speaker 4: I am a preseason nerd. I watched a little bit
- 32:38Speaker 4: of the Browns preseason game. I watched Shaduor Sanders play
- 32:42Speaker 4: the only touchdown for the Browns in that game. I
- 32:46Speaker 4: finished nine to eleven for seventy four yards touchdown, did
- 32:49Speaker 4: throw a pick. Deshaun Watson was five of twelve for
- 32:52Speaker 4: thirty six yards, also with a pick. Neither looked great.
- 32:56Speaker 4: The Browns didn't look great preseason whatever. But there's a
- 33:00Speaker 4: battle between Shadoor Sanders and Deshaun Watson at this training
- 33:04Speaker 4: camp and it's seemingly been neck and neck. I think
- 33:08Speaker 4: it's over and I think Shador won. And it has
- 33:13Speaker 4: nothing to do with the play on the field. They
- 33:17Speaker 4: played this game in Cleveland against the Buffalo Bills. Their
- 33:23Speaker 4: first preseason game was in Chicago, so there's a chance
- 33:26Speaker 4: to get in front of the home crowd, and the
- 33:28Speaker 4: crowd started booing to Shawn Watson. Here is what Deshaun
- 33:35Speaker 4: Watson said in return.
- 33:37Speaker 8: I mean I didn't have no reaction. I think the
- 33:39Speaker 8: biggest thing is I think you guys know too, and
- 33:45Speaker 8: I think the whole world knows. It has nothing to
- 33:47Speaker 8: do about the performance. It's a little bit personal than that.
- 33:51Speaker 4: So okay, hang on, sorry, Nelly, can you pick it
- 33:53Speaker 4: up from there. It has a little bit to do
- 33:58Speaker 4: with the performance, it's a it's a lot to do
- 34:02Speaker 4: with the performance. It's a lot to do with the
- 34:04Speaker 4: other stuff too. You know, all of the allegations against
- 34:08Speaker 4: you for being a weirdo, but it also has to
- 34:13Speaker 4: do if you seem to not be good at football anymore.
- 34:17Speaker 4: I hate to say it and be the bear of
- 34:21Speaker 4: the obvious news and Nelly, maybe you can back me
- 34:26Speaker 4: up on this. We and I mean we, as a
- 34:30Speaker 4: collective sports fandom, all of us, whether you're an Eagles fan,
- 34:34Speaker 4: a Broncos fan, or a Cowboys fan, we all, I think,
- 34:39Speaker 4: have been guilty of maybe looking past some transgressions in
- 34:45Speaker 4: seeking elite level football.
- 34:48Speaker 6: Back when Clay Travis still talked about sports, when he
- 34:51Speaker 6: had his Fox Sports radio show, he had some quote
- 34:54Speaker 6: to that effector he said something along the lines of
- 34:57Speaker 6: Aaron Rodgers could come out and vocally support isis. Oh,
- 35:01Speaker 6: and we would still have quarterback jobs.
- 35:02Speaker 4: I'll tell you right now. If Nikola Jokis want to
- 35:05Speaker 4: light a box of kittens on fire before every Nuggets
- 35:07Speaker 4: the game, I'd be like, dude, go fifteen, whatever you
- 35:09Speaker 4: gotta do. It's just the way we are as sports fans. Okay,
- 35:13Speaker 4: this is what we do, and it's dumb and we
- 35:16Speaker 4: shouldn't and it's immoral, and I would agree with all
- 35:18Speaker 4: of it. But it's very obvious we've done this in
- 35:21Speaker 4: the past. I'm not gonna go through the names. You
- 35:24Speaker 4: guys know what, big names in sports have had some
- 35:28Speaker 4: awful things overlooked in pursuit of being good at their
- 35:33Speaker 4: respective sport. For Deshaun Watson to say this has nothing
- 35:37Speaker 4: to do with football is blatantly untrue. You signed the richest,
- 35:42Speaker 4: the richest contract in the history of the league, and
- 35:47Speaker 4: you played like ass since then, and you're weird like
- 35:53Speaker 4: it's all of it. So pick it up from there,
- 35:55Speaker 4: go ahead.
- 35:55Speaker 8: And I think the whole world, No, it has nothing
- 35:57Speaker 8: to do about the performance. That's a little bit personal
- 36:01Speaker 8: than that. So I think that's ah, it's a disrespectful thing.
- 36:05Speaker 8: So yeah, I mean, I'm gonna keep whatever I feel
- 36:09Speaker 8: with me and my family internally on how I feel
- 36:11Speaker 8: about that, and yeah, just move on.
- 36:14Speaker 2: But don't you think that, Shawn, that that winning and
- 36:18Speaker 2: playing better would unliminate some of that bullying?
- 36:23Speaker 8: Last time I played on this field, I told my
- 36:24Speaker 8: achilles in that same fan base, they cheered when I
- 36:28Speaker 8: got hurt, So that does that have to do it?
- 36:34Speaker 8: But does that have to do with anything about performance?
- 36:36Speaker 8: When a person get hurt, especially for your own city,
- 36:39Speaker 8: and they cheer.
- 36:43Speaker 4: Yeah, that's done. There's no coming back from that. And
- 36:47Speaker 4: I don't know, Like, here's the problem with Deshaun Watson.
- 36:51Speaker 4: Does he still think he holds enough street cred that
- 36:55Speaker 4: I mean? To me, this sounds like he's basically demanding
- 36:57Speaker 4: a trade without demanding a trade. Well, what is he
- 36:59Speaker 4: all so not saying, Nelly, I ain't giving back that money,
- 37:05Speaker 4: So somebody is gonna have to take on a contract
- 37:08Speaker 4: of that magnitude, not to mention, they aren't gonna eat
- 37:12Speaker 4: the dead cap of trading him. So you've just relegated
- 37:15Speaker 4: yourself to like the bench. There's no coming back from this, none.
- 37:22Speaker 4: And I've never seen somebody that handled themselves in such
- 37:27Speaker 4: a poor way from from a strictly football perspective. He
- 37:31Speaker 4: could have gone out and said, well, I got paid
- 37:37Speaker 4: a lot of money, I was tasked with turning this
- 37:39Speaker 4: franchise around. I didn't play well and I've dealt with
- 37:43Speaker 4: some injuries. It's been a bad sort of ball of
- 37:46Speaker 4: things together. He didn't say that, and then he comes
- 37:51Speaker 4: out and says this regret coming here.
- 37:55Speaker 8: No, I don't regret anything in my life.
- 37:57Speaker 1: You know.
- 37:57Speaker 8: I think the lawyer put me through situations for reasons.
- 38:00Speaker 8: So I don't regret anything at all. But you know,
- 38:05Speaker 8: I had different thoughts on how it was going to be,
- 38:08Speaker 8: but you know, it is what it is.
- 38:11Speaker 4: You know.
- 38:11Speaker 8: Sometimes you know the tables turned, and I'm patiate enough
- 38:15Speaker 8: because I'm a child of God to you know, wait
- 38:17Speaker 8: for that time and change. So I'm not chipping on it.
- 38:21Speaker 8: I'm not chipping on it.
- 38:22Speaker 4: You regret nothing in your life, not one of twenty
- 38:26Speaker 4: seven different things. Put twenty seven, by the way, not
- 38:33Speaker 4: a single one of those. Not one. I don't know
- 38:38Speaker 4: what to do with this guy. Yeah, if you're the Browns,
- 38:42Speaker 4: you put yourself in this position by signing in. Good
- 38:45Speaker 4: good luck to anybody trying to get a contract of
- 38:47Speaker 4: that magnitude. That's fully guaranteed again in that sport, never
- 38:51Speaker 4: gonna happen like ruin that. First of all, for everybody
- 38:55Speaker 4: else in that league. Second of all, EH, PR people exist.
- 39:05Speaker 4: I'm not a PR person, didn't go to school for it.
- 39:08Speaker 4: I talked for a living, do a pretty poor job.
- 39:13Speaker 4: One person. One could have come out and said, if
- 39:17Speaker 4: you just sounded a little contract, if you've repented just
- 39:24Speaker 4: a little bit for things that you've been accused of,
- 39:30Speaker 4: or for the bottom line, if he doesn't want to
- 39:34Speaker 4: admit guilt or anything or sound like he was guilty
- 39:37Speaker 4: of something, he wants to hold on to this thing
- 39:39Speaker 4: and find from a strictly football perspective, be like, I'm sorry,
- 39:44Speaker 4: I've sucked since getting here. I promise I'll do better.
- 39:48Speaker 4: Something like that would help give me two million dollars
- 39:54Speaker 4: a year, and I will whisper to him say you're
- 39:58Speaker 4: sorry once and that's all he needs, like just one time.
- 40:04Speaker 4: But there's no coming back from this and here, So
- 40:05Speaker 4: what's funny Nelly and watching that Browns game, they interviewed
- 40:09Speaker 4: Shador Sanders on the field for seven and a half minutes.
- 40:11Speaker 4: I was gonna send you the audio. There's no way
- 40:13Speaker 4: we can get through it. There's no way in Shadoor.
- 40:24Speaker 4: His interview was really weird too, but it wasn't shrouded
- 40:27Speaker 4: in this Do you regret any assault accusations in your past?
- 40:33Speaker 4: He didn't have that kind of interview, but it was
- 40:37Speaker 4: very Shadore. It was kind of all over the place
- 40:40Speaker 4: and diving deep in all this different stuff. I don't know,
- 40:43Speaker 4: but I think everything about that press conference solidified him
- 40:46Speaker 4: being the starter.
- 40:47Speaker 6: And all you have to do if you're Deshaun is
- 40:49Speaker 6: said any regrets, He goes, No, I don't regret coming here,
- 40:51Speaker 6: but I understand that I was tasked with turnaround this
- 40:54Speaker 6: franchise and I've fallen short and I'm hoping to get
- 40:57Speaker 6: back to that this year.
- 40:58Speaker 4: So all you got to say, yes, it's not hard.
- 41:01Speaker 4: I just want to say to the fans, I'm working
- 41:03Speaker 4: my tail off to try and you know, get this
- 41:06Speaker 4: franchise to where it rightfully needs to be, which is
- 41:08Speaker 4: at the top of the AFC or whatever. I swear
- 41:12Speaker 4: to God, dude, being a quarterback at a press conference
- 41:16Speaker 4: has to be the easiest thing in the world. When
- 41:19Speaker 4: things go good, you praise your teammates and coaches. When
- 41:22Speaker 4: things go bad, you blame yourself. It's the easiest thing
- 41:24Speaker 4: in the world. Nelly. I'm the starting quarterback of the
- 41:28Speaker 4: Denver Broncos, and we just want to ask me a question.
- 41:31Speaker 6: You just won. Yes, Hey Brett, how do you guys
- 41:34Speaker 6: think you looked out there today? Really looked like the
- 41:35Speaker 6: offense was firing an all cylinders.
- 41:37Speaker 4: I got to tell you, full credit to my offensive
- 41:39Speaker 4: line today. They worked their asses off. I was protected,
- 41:42Speaker 4: My jersey was clean all day. And how about the
- 41:44Speaker 4: hands of some of my wide receivers out there? The
- 41:45Speaker 4: catches by Courtland Sutton. We established the running game. I
- 41:48Speaker 4: thought it was a great game plan from Davis Webb
- 41:50Speaker 4: and Sean Payton. That's why we played well. Now ask
- 41:53Speaker 4: me the same thing after a loss, and now Broncos lose.
- 41:55Speaker 4: I throw for three hundred and eighty yards and five touchdowns,
- 41:58Speaker 4: but we lost.
- 42:00Speaker 6: Yeah, Hey, Kaner, you had a heck of a night
- 42:02Speaker 6: out there, But just seems like you guys couldn't get
- 42:05Speaker 6: the job on me.
- 42:06Speaker 4: You know, I just gotta go out there. I gotta
- 42:07Speaker 4: make more plays. That's what I'm tasked with. I'm the
- 42:09Speaker 4: leader of this team. I'm the captain of this team.
- 42:10Speaker 4: I gotta go out there and play better. And when
- 42:12Speaker 4: I don't play up to my standard, our team doesn't
- 42:15Speaker 4: get to where they need to go. It's on me.
- 42:17Speaker 4: I gotta do better, and I promise I will. I'll
- 42:19Speaker 4: work my ass off and practice this week to make
- 42:21Speaker 4: sure we get things right. Boom, how about that A
- 42:24Speaker 4: quarterback press conference. Easiest thing in the world. We win,
- 42:28Speaker 4: everybody else is great. We lose. I suck, very simple.
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