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The 27 Club, forgotten bands and more · Doug and Scott's Rockcast

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  SPEAKER_00: Hi, I'm Doug.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I'm Scott.
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  SPEAKER_00: And this is Doug and Scott's Rocketcast.
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  SPEAKER_00: Woohoo! Here we are again, sir.
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  SPEAKER_00: Another show.
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  SPEAKER_01: Another week of the live.
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  SPEAKER_01: Another week of life.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_01: And they're going fast.
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  SPEAKER_01: Did you have a good week?
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  SPEAKER_01: I did, sort of.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_01: You?
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  SPEAKER_01: Mine just seemed long.
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  SPEAKER_01: Just seemed long.
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  SPEAKER_01: Mine flew by, man.
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  SPEAKER_01: It was just it was Monday and then Friday, and I'm like, wow.
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  SPEAKER_01: Wow, it's over.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's over.
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  SPEAKER_01: But for the weekend.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yay! Yay! All right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Today on the the Rock cast, we're gonna go over a couple things.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're gonna kind of go over forgotten bands that might have released you know one album or so and then kind of dropped out of sight.
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  SPEAKER_00: Or maybe we haven't even really heard of them, but they did get a chart topping, not chart topping, but got on the billboard charts.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
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  SPEAKER_00: Then we're gonna go for rock stars that died in their 20.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's a lot of long lists there.
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  SPEAKER_00: It is a long list.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: The first I wanted to talk about first.
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  SPEAKER_00: Did you know Art Garfunkel has been out on tour this year?
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  SPEAKER_00: Um I'm doing Simon and Garfunkel song, too.
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  SPEAKER_01: I don't think I did.
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  SPEAKER_00: He's like 80 years old.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I did listen to a couple of uh him live, The Boxer.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: And um Bridge Over Trouble Water.
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  SPEAKER_00: I listened to him.
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  SPEAKER_00: No, he's not hitting it like he used to, but it's not bad.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, for a guy in his 80s, it's he probably had uh go down an octave, I imagine.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm sure it's he's not getting up there as high as he used to.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: If you if you got a scale of like from one to ten and um um from the worst to the you know more than the worst of the yeah, and ten being the best, yeah, I would say he's probably around a six or a seven.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's not bad.
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  SPEAKER_00: No, not bad.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, you can I could see you sitting through a concert with him singing.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: As long as it's not like painful that you're feeling sorry for the guy.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, there's just a couple times here.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like we all do, quite frankly.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: He did have a guy kind of help him onto the on and off the stage.
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  SPEAKER_00: So well, I mean you know, and he sat the whole time, but it's acoustic guitar and piano and that.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's about it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's not a lot of fanfare kind of yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Is he wearing in leather or anything?
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  SPEAKER_00: Or no, he is not.
• 2:48
  SPEAKER_00: No, you just dressed up like because you remember how he always had those skinny ties and like a vest, and yep, same thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, good for him, man.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh, that reminds me.
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  SPEAKER_01: I did um come across a um another thing, and I was gonna bring that up.
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  SPEAKER_01: Speaking of Garfunkel, um half uh uh the partnership of uh Garfunkel, Simon Garfunkel, Mr.
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  SPEAKER_01: Paul Simon, put out a new album that dropped this month.
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  SPEAKER_00: Wow, I did not know that.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um it listened to it?
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  SPEAKER_01: I listened to part of it, uh, just dropped uh on the eighth.
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  SPEAKER_01: So Friday, I think it was whenever the eighth was.
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  SPEAKER_01: But I did yeah, I did listen to it.
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  SPEAKER_01: It is uh not a studio album, it is actually a live album.
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  SPEAKER_01: Live album.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh it was recorded in 25.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um you could tell he's getting up there too with his voice.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, but you know, it's got all the got all the hit songs on it that he played live.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, Grace.
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  SPEAKER_01: No, nothing new.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, the the first side of the album, if you want to call it a side anymore.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, well, I guess if it's vinyl, you still have a side, but um, it was it was different.
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  SPEAKER_01: I I don't know if that was new songs or from a previous album because I haven't really been keeping up with him that much uh on studio albums lately.
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  SPEAKER_01: But uh yeah, I mean it was you know the live uh it wasn't bad really.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I think I was thinking too while I was listening to him that he's probably one of the most uh underrated acoustic guitar players.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you don't hear him in that realm of acoustic players.
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  SPEAKER_01: But yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: He's not gonna break out a huge lead, but he does uh yeah, it's uh it's uh the fingering and all that.
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  SPEAKER_01: Fingering, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, is very distinctive.
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  SPEAKER_01: But uh yeah, there you go, man.
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  SPEAKER_01: Cool.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yep, but related topics.
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  SPEAKER_01: Are we done?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, I think I'm called so uh uh do you want to start out with your list of forgotten bands that put out put out albums that made the billboard and kind of dropped off?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I figure we'll start with the 60s, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: 60s.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um that's what we're in.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes, I know we're in our sixties.
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  SPEAKER_01: We are in our sixties, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: And uh so the criteria I had, just to let you know, uh because some of these bands you still you still hear on the radio today, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: But the criteria I had was that the album or a song on the album had to uh appear on the Billboard 250, had had to chart somewhere.
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  SPEAKER_01: And after that album, which is their first album that they put out, they broke up or whatever within a year or two.
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  SPEAKER_01: So that was the criteria.
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  SPEAKER_01: So some of these bands on the list you've heard of, you might have forgotten, but once you hear the name, you're like, oh yeah, yeah, I remember them because they were only around for a year or two.
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  SPEAKER_01: The first one you remember called a band called Blind Faith.
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  SPEAKER_01: Blind Melon, yes, Blind Faith.
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  SPEAKER_00: It sounds kind of familiar.
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  SPEAKER_00: Who's in it?
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  SPEAKER_01: It was a super group and 69.
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  SPEAKER_01: Had Eric Clapton, Steve Winward, Ginger Baker.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they put out uh an album and it uh it uh got up to I don't know what it was.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was uh at least in the 200.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: I would imagine it charted pretty well at first.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh let me get my notes here.
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  SPEAKER_02: Uh well number one in the album.
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  SPEAKER_00: It did.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, charted.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, with those with those guys in it, I'm sure people wanted to get it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Wanted to see what it like, and then they and I think it had probably died off real quick.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like I listened to it uh this week and I I I remembered one of the songs.
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  SPEAKER_01: But uh the second one in the 60s, which I never this is one of those bands that hit that criteria where you never heard of ever.
• 7:56
  SPEAKER_01: And then once you heard of them, you can't get it out of your head because you're like, why did they even put that out?
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and this is probably well, and if this is one of your favorite bands, I do apologize.
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  SPEAKER_01: They're very distinctive and different.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh, the band was uh titled uh the United States of America.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, you know, I was kind of I was watched I uh I was researching, I came up with those two, and I don't think I I've never heard of them.
• 8:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh go listen, they have one album out, and uh you know, when the United States of America they charted on the billboard two excuse me, two fifty.
• 8:44
  SPEAKER_01: And when they describe it as uncompromising vision and then uh that was kind of they used uh ring modulators, primitive synthesizers, electric violins.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh they rejected a traditional guitars.
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  SPEAKER_01: It uh it I got through three songs, and I'm pretty liberal on stuff that I can listen to.
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  SPEAKER_01: That was um and like I said, if this is anybody's favorite band, I apologize, but it was pretty much unlistenable.
• 9:26
  SPEAKER_01: Oh it was it was that I mean it hurt, it hurt to listen to.
• 9:31
  SPEAKER_01: They were trying to get too too out there, yeah, too much off the beaten path.
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_01: It's like I don't know if you ever seen a band before, and there was like 10 people in the band, and nobody got the memo of what song they were playing.
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  SPEAKER_01: So everybody was playing something different in a different key, different style, and it was just all recorded together as one song.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's what it sounded like to me.
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_00: I remember going to uh we went to um it was like a rock con rock uh rock uh battle of bands kind of thing, and this group came out and they had horns and they had keyboards, they had everybody out there.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's yeah, it's probably like eight to ten people out there, and I think, oh man, these guys are gonna be pretty good.
• 10:14
  SPEAKER_00: Look at all this stuff, and it was just terrible.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was like everybody was doing something different.
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  SPEAKER_01: It was like progressive jazz, man.
• 10:23
  SPEAKER_01: It was yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm not I'm not big on that, but yeah, each his own.
• 10:29
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, that's what I said.
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  SPEAKER_01: If that's uh anybody's favorite band, they won album and they lasted one year, and that was that.
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  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, I imagine back in the day the uh record company was probably scared of that.
• 10:43
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I'm sure of it.
• 10:44
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and the only people I'm sure got the album was family.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I'm sorry.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so uh that would be well anyway, that would be great.
• 10:57
  SPEAKER_01: So the 70s had some bands in it that uh I'm sure everybody's heard of.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um one was Derek and a Domino's.
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  SPEAKER_01: CS.
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  SPEAKER_01: I've heard of them.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they came in number 10.
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  SPEAKER_01: Layla 10, yeah, Layla.
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  SPEAKER_01: And uh that band lasted one year.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, and then of course, you know, everybody disbanded and history's history.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh, the other one was a band called Beck Bogart and a Peace, and that was uh supposedly.
• 11:31
  SPEAKER_00: Well, let's go back to Derek and the Domino first off.
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  SPEAKER_00: Just go back because I me personally, I wouldn't think that's like a group that I forgot about.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think it's people you brought him up, people would still remember Derek and the Dominoes.
• 11:45
  SPEAKER_00: Well, see, that that's the thing, right?
• 11:48
  SPEAKER_01: And it's like you come up because I went down a rabbit hole.
• 11:52
  SPEAKER_01: I admittedly just went down a rabbit hole, and I'm like, how would I come up with bands that people forgot?
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  SPEAKER_01: Because if somebody still remembers them, it's like I'm thinking, who forgot them?
• 12:05
  SPEAKER_01: Is it that I forgot them or that a majority of people forgot them?
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  SPEAKER_01: So that's a tough, that's a tough thing.
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  SPEAKER_01: But yeah, so my criteria was um that after they came out with an album that charted, they were only they had to disband within a year or two.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'll give you that that they didn't get a lot of things.
• 12:27
  SPEAKER_01: But I mean, yeah.
• 12:30
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, the music's.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, you still have people doing Layla.
• 12:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 12:37
  SPEAKER_00: But uh I don't know how many people, but a lot of people remade that.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so would I put that actually on the list?
• 12:43
  SPEAKER_01: Probably not.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh forgotten bands, right?
• 12:47
  SPEAKER_01: Um, this one I would have because I never knew the band existed in the first place, was Beck Bogart A Peace, which was a supergroup with Jeff Beck, uh Carmen A Peace, and Tim Bogart.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, they charted at number 12 in the bidboard 273.
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  SPEAKER_01: They were a year, you know, around a year and a half, not even two years.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: See, I've never I don't chart it to twelve.
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  SPEAKER_01: I don't think I've ever heard the songs or anything from.
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  SPEAKER_01: No, and it was it was it was the more I research stuff, the sixties and especially the seventies and early eighties was this decade of super groups, Asia, yeah, all these bands that were created from other famous bands, and they got together for like one album, and then they went back to their normal bands.
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it was it's really weird, man.
• 13:46
  SPEAKER_01: There's a lot of that, and I didn't uh yeah, I didn't um expect there to be that many.
• 13:54
  SPEAKER_00: Ted Nugent and uh Tommy Shaw were in a band, right?
• 13:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, the damn Yankees, yeah.
• 14:00
  SPEAKER_01: Damn Yankees, that's it.
• 14:01
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think they only did one, right?
• 14:03
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I had uh Jack Blades from uh Night Ranger, the bass player, in there too.
• 14:08
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, that's right, yeah.
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so I guess you could probably say that was a semi-super group, if you would.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, and but that one though, other than um most of those songs I think either sounded like Night Ranger, and of course, depending on who wrote it, it's gonna sound like Styx or Night Ranger.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I think Nugit, you could tell the ones that he wrote was more of a harder.
• 14:36
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: But they were around for a few years.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, were they?
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they had two, three albums.
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, really?
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_01: That many.
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 14:48
  SPEAKER_01: Uh that was a great band.
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  SPEAKER_00: Almost a lost interest after the first one.
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, and I think after they started going their separate ways too, because the you know, sticks started torn again, if you remember.
• 15:01
  SPEAKER_01: Jack Blade.
• 15:02
  SPEAKER_01: Um well, him and Tommy Shaw did an album or two together.
• 15:07
  SPEAKER_01: That was they were really good.
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_01: It's called Blade Sha Shaw Blades or Blade Shawls.
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_01: I can't remember what how they went by, but that was a good uh good duel too that came out with a um cover album of uh 60s and 70s songs.
• 15:22
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, cool.
• 15:23
  SPEAKER_01: That was really good.
• 15:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'll check that one out.
• 15:25
  SPEAKER_01: That was good.
• 15:25
  SPEAKER_00: I'll check that out too.
• 15:26
  SPEAKER_00: I'll put that with my Simon Live album.
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 15:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_00: I want to listen to that too.
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 15:32
  SPEAKER_01: And it's funny on that back to this uh Paul Simon album, because he talked at the beginning of the concert, and you could tell he was in his eighties.
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_01: You know how you kind of get that old, yeah.
• 15:45
  SPEAKER_01: I'm starting to get that sound in your voice where you just start sounding older.
• 15:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and he just can't sound.
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_01: It was like uh, you know, you it was uh hard to get the breath and stuff like that.
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_01: But when he started singing, you couldn't tell it was really weird, man.
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_01: It was like Tillus.
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_01: Remember the singers Tell us Mel Tillis?
• 16:05
  SPEAKER_01: He stuttered when he talked, but when he stuck Oh, he stuttered, yeah, that's right.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but he sang no stutter, no stutter, nothing.
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_01: He had great voice.
• 16:12
  SPEAKER_01: It was you know, just stuff like that freaks me out.
• 16:15
  SPEAKER_00: It's amazing.
• 16:16
  SPEAKER_00: It was also like uh remember Glenn Campbell, he had uh a lot of issues with dementia before he passed away.
• 16:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, they said he'd go out there and play his guitar like he'd no problem whatsoever, and he'd sing just memory, but then he couldn't remember his kids' names.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know, it's it's just weird.
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_01: Well, you know, a lot of a lot of that is you remember the past, you know, depending on what and I and I don't make fun of that because my mom went through that, and it's very Yeah, my grandpa had it for the people that um don't have it and deal with it, it's it's very emotional because you know my mom wouldn't know who my kids were because at that particular day she was living in the 1960s.
• 17:05
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know what I mean?
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_01: It's very absolutely heartbreaking.
• 17:09
  SPEAKER_01: But uh, especially when the body's good and the brain goes, just it's tough.
• 17:13
  SPEAKER_01: It's very tough.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_01: But so that's depressing.
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_01: So okay.
• 17:19
  SPEAKER_00: Thanks for bringing it down.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_00: Or was that me that brought it down?
• 17:22
  SPEAKER_00: I think I brought it down.
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_01: We do that every once in a while.
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_01: Just uh it's called life, ladies and gentlemen.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_01: It's uh you know, you start getting older and like a moment, yeah.
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_00: You start uh, as most of you guys know, you just start uh remembering the past and you know well, kind of speaking on that note, I saw a uh a blurb where they said we're talking like um 50, 60s, 70s time frame around in there.
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_00: The average rock star died at 40.
• 17:53
  SPEAKER_00: And now the average rock star is dying at 70.
• 17:57
  SPEAKER_00: Better drugs.
• 17:59
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_01: I shouldn't say that.
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe they're maybe just different.
• 18:07
  SPEAKER_01: Uh or maybe they're just people are smarter, and you know, yeah.
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_00: I think they're just smarter and they're taking care of themselves.
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_01: Well, they're a lot, they have a lot more money than they did back then, too.
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_01: So they can't uh yeah.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_00: So they can afford the chefs and the dietitians and stuff now.
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_00: McCartney and like uh Mick Jagger, that they are really rigid on what they eat and exercising.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_00: That's how come they're still out there.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, still out there going, man.
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yep, yep, yep, yep.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_00: Sitting on the couch will kill you, man.
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_00: It is me, I'll tell you that.
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_01: Uh so well, back to the list.
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_01: Um one song I never heard of, or song, one group I never heard of in my entire life.
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_01: I don't even have to say it.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_01: It's uh I think it's pronounced Ramatam.
• 18:55
  SPEAKER_01: R-A-M-A-T-A-M.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_01: Ramatam.
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_01: Ramatam came out of it.
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_01: Disbanded by 74.
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_01: Um came out with a uh self-titled album called Ramatam, and that charted at 182 out of the Billboard 200.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and just shortly thereafter, they disbanded.
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_00: Was that a do you think it was a hard rock band or kind of a pop band?
• 19:24
  SPEAKER_01: No, it was a it was a rock band.
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_01: Uh rock band, it was um Mike Pinera from Iron Butterfly and Mitch Mitchell from uh Jimmy Hemic Hemic Hendricks experience.
• 19:37
  SPEAKER_01: And it's fine.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_01: I listened to that because I'm like, I never heard of that band, or have I?
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_01: And that would be on the list of forgotten bands.
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and I went back and listened, and I might have recognized the song, but you know, that was early 70s.
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but it was like uh it had rock and kind of a jazz feel, sort of.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_01: It's not bad though, yeah.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_00: So what do you you think uh the Dixie um Midnight Runners would fall in that category?
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_00: Because they had that one huge song, you know, come on, Eileen, and then that was it.
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I think they just banned that for years ago.
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_01: I could still tell you who wrote that song.
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_01: So in my mind, I didn't forget about them.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_01: So that's what makes this so hard.
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's it's all debatable, it's all debatable, and it's all who's it's all different opinion because Ramatam could have been your favorite band.
• 20:36
  SPEAKER_01: And you went to all the Ramatam comic cons and all that stuff.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_01: Yep, and you never forgot about them, and it's just man, you know, it's tough.
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_01: They might be out there somewhere still.
• 20:49
  SPEAKER_00: Still Ramataman, yeah.
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_00: Tammon at some local bar.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_01: But uh I can say when I yeah, I actually did listen to all these albums I could find online and all all built that one uh band.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_01: They that's actually very listenable, and I can see why I don't see why they split up unless it was a super group and you had too many egos and they wanted to get back to their own.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_00: I'm sure that did.
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_00: Once you got taste of you're on your own and you can do it on your own, yeah, you're gonna you're gonna go back.
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_00: You don't want to share the spotlight anymore.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_01: And then um, groups from the 80s um actually shocked me, and I did forget about some of these.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but some of them I'm like, no, but they're still playing that on the radio.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_01: So I think maybe, maybe that's the thing.
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_01: If they still play the song on the radio, they're not forgotten.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_00: That's true.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_00: Right?
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_00: That can be put into your criteria.
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_00: If it's still being Spotified, then they're not forgotten.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_01: Over the air, you know, like a radio station.
• 22:03
  SPEAKER_01: You have to have those I think so.
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_01: Um, yeah, I went to try to find a uh transistor radio the other day.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm being serious on this one.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_01: Because I love or I used to love listening to AM radio.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_01: Um they used to have, I don't think they're around anymore.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_01: Uh the guy did uh came on like at 11:30.
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_01: He did all the um like the UFO stuff and the ghost stuff.
• 22:35
  SPEAKER_01: You ever listen to him?
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_01: Um was it back in the like 70s, 80s or when was that?
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_01: And he was out of Arizona and he his uh radio station was out of his house.
• 22:49
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_01: Um and it was it was uh it was on uh 610 TVN here.
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_01: It was nationally radio televised radio televised, there you go.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_01: But yeah, it was uh have to look him up.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_01: Any who's in uh yeah, it's hard to find a transistor radio anymore.
• 23:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it has you remember Dr.
• 23:11
  SPEAKER_00: Demento?
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_00: I did.
• 23:13
  SPEAKER_00: I listened to I know here it used to be on it Sunday nights, I think it was.
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think it was wasn't it uh classic the QFM?
• 23:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, yes, it was yeah, local.
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_00: I used to listen to him every week.
• 23:25
  SPEAKER_00: I'd tune in.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and I think it was like nine or ten o'clock at night, too.
• 23:29
  SPEAKER_00: It wasn't like during the day, wasn't during the day, no.
• 23:31
  SPEAKER_00: It was uh yeah, it was a kid was yeah, that that was fun.
• 23:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_00: I know he uh Weird Al got his start on Dr.
• 23:41
  SPEAKER_00: Demento.
• 23:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 23:43
  SPEAKER_00: And um, I think Weird Al says that he submitted a cassette one time and uh he said um only uh a C performer would put out a cassette or something like that.
• 23:55
  SPEAKER_00: He he wasn't impressed too much with his cassette, but then it I mean we're off.
• 24:03
  SPEAKER_00: He still is, he's still out there.
• 24:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he's not forgotten, is he?
• 24:06
  SPEAKER_00: We're now uh didn't he just put out another album?
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_00: I think he did.
• 24:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 24:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that most people when he does his parody, they like it, but there's there's some that don't.
• 24:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I know uh offended by it.
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_00: Uh Betty Davis Thighs, I think he put out in uh was it is that Kim Carnes, right?
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it was Kim Carnes.
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_00: Uh yeah.
• 24:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, she did not like it.
• 24:31
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, she was not happy with that performance.
• 24:35
  SPEAKER_01: But you know, a lot of it puts that uh, especially if the song was disappearing off the charts, it puts it back in there.
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_01: People go, Oh, I remember I like that song.
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_01: You know, not the words, but I mean the you know.
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_01: So, yeah.
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_00: Well, they put it in a movie, put it on TV show, and all of a sudden it starts going up the charts again.
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 24:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_01: So some of the 80s bands, my friend.
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_01: Um go through, I'm gonna go through a list.
• 25:05
  SPEAKER_01: You tell me if you ever heard of them and if they've forgotten the Power Station.
• 25:11
  SPEAKER_00: We're out in 84, 85.
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_00: No, I don't think so.
• 25:17
  SPEAKER_00: I don't remember.
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I don't remember Power Station.
• 25:21
  SPEAKER_00: Uh the only group I can come up, they were like a dance power something dance group singing.
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_01: Kind of.
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_01: They uh it was uh another super group for you.
• 25:33
  SPEAKER_01: Uh Robert Palmer.
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_01: The members of Duran Duran.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_00: Duran Duran?
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_01: Sheik.
• 25:43
  SPEAKER_01: So it kind of had that, yeah, the very, very big pop feel.
• 25:48
  SPEAKER_01: Um, dance kind of thing.
• 25:50
  SPEAKER_01: Um they came out with the album and it peaked at number six in the Billboard 200.
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_01: Number six.
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_01: Number six.
• 25:57
  SPEAKER_01: And I don't remember in '85, so they were round one year enough to get the record and get the album out, and it topped at six, and uh, they wanted to go out on tour, and Robert Palmer said nope, and they were done.
• 26:17
  SPEAKER_00: Isn't that when Robert Palmer started peaking?
• 26:19
  SPEAKER_00: Like his big peak popularity is around that time.
• 26:23
  SPEAKER_01: Um he yeah, he had that what was that song with the dancing oh yeah.
• 26:29
  SPEAKER_01: Um you just made me look at it.
• 26:34
  SPEAKER_01: I could see it, I could see the video.
• 26:36
  SPEAKER_01: I'm addicted to love.
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_01: Addicted to love.
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_01: There you go.
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_01: I'm addicted to love.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_01: So I don't know if that was before or after this.
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_01: I can't remember when that song came out.
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I'll look what you speak.
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_01: If we only had a way to find that stuff out.
• 26:50
  SPEAKER_01: The other band um was out in 85, 87.
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I I have heard of this band, and I couldn't tell you one thing that they had.
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_01: 85.
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_01: Back to Robert Palmer.
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_01: That was released in '85.
• 27:05
  SPEAKER_01: So that was right after the power station left.
• 27:08
  SPEAKER_01: So he must have knew something, I'd take it.
• 27:10
  SPEAKER_01: Um I can't be with you guys, man.
• 27:16
  SPEAKER_01: Sorry.
• 27:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_01: Um, yeah, and the next one's GTR.
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_01: GTR.
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_01: Another uh song.
• 27:25
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, another big band with Steve Hackett from Genesis.
• 27:28
  SPEAKER_01: Steve Howe from Yes formed this band.
• 27:31
  SPEAKER_01: It peaked at 11, number 11 on the Billboard 200.
• 27:35
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 27:36
  SPEAKER_01: Um it had uh disbanded in 87.
• 27:40
  SPEAKER_01: Uh Steve Hackett left the group.
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_01: Putting it into the project shortly after the successful W.
• 27:49
  SPEAKER_01: I did hear of them when I started looking at and went to listen to that album, and I do remember that album.
• 27:57
  SPEAKER_00: But it was the big song.
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_01: I that I can't remember.
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_01: But I can I remember hearing one or two of those on the radio, but I couldn't tell you what it was, and I bet you if if I wasn't researching and I heard that song, I would tell you I had no idea who that was.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_01: So but you remembered the song.
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_00: I remembered the song.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no idea who they were.
• 28:22
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 28:23
  SPEAKER_00: If I didn't know, I wouldn't that is yeah, right.
• 28:26
  SPEAKER_00: I would definitely say that's a lost.
• 28:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 28:29
  SPEAKER_01: And then the next one, which I didn't even think of, did not think of at all.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_01: It crawl falls under that criteria.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_01: They're not forgotten because you know who it is as soon as one of their songs comes on.
• 28:45
  SPEAKER_01: The firm.
• 28:47
  SPEAKER_01: With Jimmy, Paul Rogers, and Bad Company.
• 28:51
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I believe I still have their album.
• 28:53
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, well, that's uh that's a keeper, because that's the only album that ever had, I think.
• 28:58
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, they were uh formed in 85 and uh broke up in 86.
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_00: Um I couldn't tell you the song that made it popular, but I can remember the album cover because it had the firm kind of like written in big bold letters across the album.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, they came out with a second album.
• 29:15
  SPEAKER_01: I apologize.
• 29:17
  SPEAKER_01: Oh uh the firm peaked at uh the album peaked at 17, and then that was followed up by Mean Business in 86.
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_01: Did that chart?
• 29:28
  SPEAKER_01: No, I don't think so.
• 29:30
  SPEAKER_00: That's they say that's it.
• 29:32
  SPEAKER_01: That's it.
• 29:32
  SPEAKER_01: The band disappeared or disabanded later in '86.
• 29:36
  SPEAKER_01: Paige and Rogers felt the group had run its course.
• 29:41
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 29:41
  SPEAKER_01: So no more songs.
• 29:43
  SPEAKER_01: No more songs.
• 29:44
  SPEAKER_01: No more songs.
• 29:45
  SPEAKER_01: Not nothing else for you people.
• 29:48
  SPEAKER_01: And uh yeah.
• 29:51
  SPEAKER_01: And then um, excuse me.
• 29:54
  SPEAKER_01: This next next group, I'm like, you got to be kidding me.
• 30:02
  SPEAKER_01: Everybody remembers this group that ever lived.
• 30:06
  SPEAKER_01: Well, you know, not ever lived, but lived uh if you're in your 60s, 50s, 60s, 70s, you remember this band, no doubt about it.
• 30:18
  SPEAKER_01: And then I looked at it, I'm like, I don't remember this band.
• 30:22
  SPEAKER_01: And it was Emerson Lake.
• 30:23
  SPEAKER_01: You just told me I did.
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it was Emerson, and I misread it.
• 30:28
  SPEAKER_01: This band was called Emerson Lake and Pow.
• 30:32
  SPEAKER_01: Pow, not Palmer.
• 30:35
  SPEAKER_01: Pow?
• 30:36
  SPEAKER_01: It was Cozy Pow on the drums instead of uh Palmer.
• 30:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they recruited him because his name started with P.
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_01: I think so.
• 30:45
  SPEAKER_01: So they can keep the trio ELP.
• 30:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 30:49
  SPEAKER_01: Because that was their, you know, right?
• 30:50
  SPEAKER_01: Um so that album uh reached number 23 on a Billboard 200.
• 30:57
  SPEAKER_01: That version of Emerson Lake and Question Mark, who I didn't put in there, uh only lasted one year.
• 31:05
  SPEAKER_01: This banned quickly in '86 after a short tour to suppose uh support the record.
• 31:11
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 31:12
  SPEAKER_01: That I didn't even, I just I didn't know.
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_01: I I looked at that and I thought it was Emerson Lake and Palmer.
• 31:19
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, what are they talking about?
• 31:21
  SPEAKER_01: That you know, still play everybody, you know.
• 31:24
  SPEAKER_01: And then I'm like, who the hell's pal?
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 31:27
  SPEAKER_01: So that's why I put that on the list for that rendition of the band.
• 31:32
  SPEAKER_01: That's right.
• 31:34
  SPEAKER_01: I think probably you would be right on that one.
• 31:36
  SPEAKER_01: That was yeah, yeah.
• 31:37
  SPEAKER_01: I've never never heard of the pal.
• 31:39
  SPEAKER_01: Never heard of the pal part.
• 31:40
  SPEAKER_01: I have the palmer, not the pal.
• 31:43
  SPEAKER_01: So that's why I thought that'd be a good one to put in there.
• 31:46
  SPEAKER_01: And then, and then my last selection, which I think I after I after I think about this, everybody's heard of this band, and I think they're in the uh Rugner Hall of Fame.
• 31:59
  SPEAKER_01: And this is a band that came out in 85, 86 timeframe.
• 32:04
  SPEAKER_01: Um have an album uh it's called So Red and Rose, peaked at 23 on the Billboard 200.
• 32:15
  SPEAKER_01: Uh disbanded in 86 as the members reconvened to continue with the band they came from.
• 32:23
  SPEAKER_01: That's a hint.
• 32:25
  SPEAKER_01: So the band took a hiatus that they were in.
• 32:31
  SPEAKER_01: They created a new group, did a new project, and then when the band said hiatus is over, they dropped that band and went back to the original band.
• 32:43
  SPEAKER_01: The original band was Duran Duran.
• 32:47
  SPEAKER_01: Three members of Duran Dran.
• 32:49
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, three members, okay.
• 32:51
  SPEAKER_01: Three members of them spinned off while they were on hiatus to form a band called Arcadia.
• 32:59
  SPEAKER_00: Arcadia.
• 33:00
  SPEAKER_00: I've been to the Arcades, yes, but I don't know the Arcadia.
• 33:03
  SPEAKER_01: Arcadia.
• 33:05
  SPEAKER_01: I had no idea when I saw that name.
• 33:09
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, who are they?
• 33:11
  SPEAKER_01: And then I started reading into it, and uh, you know, I'm like, oh no.
• 33:15
  SPEAKER_01: And then I listened to the album.
• 33:16
  SPEAKER_01: You know what it sounded like?
• 33:18
  SPEAKER_01: Durant uh Duran Duran.
• 33:20
  unknown: Yes.
• 33:22
  SPEAKER_01: And uh just for uh you know a thing, uh I looked at a couple songs I was listening to.
• 33:28
  SPEAKER_01: You know how you can go in and find out who played on them.
• 33:31
  SPEAKER_01: Um uh David Gilmore played on one.
• 33:35
  SPEAKER_01: David Gilmore, we had a ton of people on there.
• 33:39
  SPEAKER_01: He's one of my favorites, yeah.
• 33:40
  SPEAKER_01: He was the most recognizable that played on uh one of their songs.
• 33:44
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, wow.
• 33:45
  SPEAKER_01: And uh, but I couldn't hear his uh kind of distinct sound on uh that song at all, so uh I don't know what he played on or what he played.
• 33:55
  SPEAKER_01: But uh well that's a quite a list you got there, Douglas.
• 34:00
  SPEAKER_01: Well, you know, I aimed to please and uh like I said, the criteria was hard to come up with, my friend.
• 34:06
  SPEAKER_01: It was it was uh it was a rabbit hole that um I don't want to go down much uh because that was actually I as much as I enjoy it to go through that and it's like man, you know, and that that every song starts sounding the same.
• 34:25
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I go back to uh yeah uh arcadia, the spinoff from Duran Duran, who the three members of that band that's that formed that band were the probably the major songwriters of Duran Duran.
• 34:39
  SPEAKER_01: So you could definitely say this sounds exactly like Duran Duran because that's how they write.
• 34:45
  SPEAKER_01: Of course, right, right.
• 34:47
  SPEAKER_00: Not as an R W-R-R-I-T, but R-I-G-T, right.
• 34:52
  SPEAKER_00: You would think uh if you you're gonna spawn a new band, you're like, man, I just want to do something different on a different sound, different.
• 34:59
  SPEAKER_00: I don't want to do the same thing.
• 35:00
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but it sounded, you know, it sounded just like you know, the the uh keyboard player, uh the LeBanc, uh the singer, and then uh the drummer.
• 35:12
  SPEAKER_01: So the rhythm sounded the same, the keyboard style, and of course his voice didn't change.
• 35:18
  SPEAKER_01: You know, he didn't change his voice for this band, so it was it was it was a lot.
• 35:23
  SPEAKER_01: Um I listened to the album or three-fourths of it.
• 35:27
  SPEAKER_01: I I just couldn't do it anymore because I'm not into that kind of stuff, but it just sounded like anything else that was around that period.
• 35:35
  SPEAKER_00: It was, you know, that it's definitely, I mean, people get hit big, then and then it's everybody copies them.
• 35:42
  SPEAKER_00: Hey, they hit it big.
• 35:43
  SPEAKER_00: Let's just do the same sound.
• 35:45
  SPEAKER_00: But I I did love Hungry Like the Wolves.
• 35:48
  SPEAKER_00: No, I did like Durand Duran.
• 35:51
  SPEAKER_01: But this was uh Arcadia was more of a it went full-on pop dance uh kind of stuff, but still sounded like Durand Duran.
• 36:04
  SPEAKER_01: It was just more for the younger crowd, so it wasn't uh didn't have melodies like the Durand Duran, you know, Rio, that kind of stuff.
• 36:14
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, like you know, um Hungry Like the Wolf.
• 36:19
  SPEAKER_01: You know, those were good songs.
• 36:20
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I will have to admit, I wasn't really in this is really weird.
• 36:24
  SPEAKER_01: I'm getting off on into the weeds here, but in the 80s, a lot of the 80s bands I was I would not listen to.
• 36:35
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't really dig them.
• 36:37
  SPEAKER_01: I was more into still more into the I guess probably the hair bands.
• 36:43
  SPEAKER_01: You know, you wanted the hard rock harder rock kind of stuff, and then when this all the 80s synth stuff came out, and you know, although I will have to say there's a couple like yeah uh Irene and uh Men Without Hats, the safety dance, very catchy tunes.
• 37:04
  SPEAKER_01: Still love those today.
• 37:05
  SPEAKER_01: They come on.
• 37:06
  SPEAKER_01: I still do the dance.
• 37:07
  SPEAKER_01: Uh yeah, I still I still sing completely on come on Alina did uh even in the bars, man.
• 37:13
  SPEAKER_01: You ever been in a bar that song comes on?
• 37:17
  SPEAKER_01: Everybody sings hang on or the safety dance you see everybody doing that that dance, whatever the heck that was.
• 37:24
  SPEAKER_01: What about the human leg?
• 37:26
  SPEAKER_01: Were you into them?
• 37:26
  SPEAKER_01: Remember that?
• 37:27
  SPEAKER_01: I remember the human leg, I wasn't really into them much.
• 37:30
  SPEAKER_01: Now, what I was going back to what I was saying is um you start listening to those again, and now I'm starting to like them.
• 37:45
  SPEAKER_01: You like the Duran Duran, like uh you know, uh who else?
• 37:51
  SPEAKER_01: Um Tears of Fears.
• 37:55
  SPEAKER_01: You know, that that you know you go back and revisit these bands that you wouldn't give the time of day, and all of a sudden you're like, man, those were actually pretty good.
• 38:06
  SPEAKER_01: But you know, your ego, I think, of what music you were in at the time would not allow.
• 38:11
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, you didn't want it, yeah.
• 38:12
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, those are like those look cool.
• 38:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, those look cool.
• 38:16
  SPEAKER_00: I wouldn't get caught dead wearing that shirt.
• 38:18
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 38:20
  SPEAKER_00: So anyway, it's like uh I was um I was coming home the other day, and uh you remember Boy George?
• 38:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 38:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 38:36
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, man, there's no way back in the day I would tend like I yeah, and it's I think if they were on MTV, that was uh yeah, if you were into the hair band and the heart of rock, yeah, you see all these guys on MTV, you know, more pop pop stars, um, you're like, oh I yeah.
• 38:58
  SPEAKER_01: Too cool for that too cool for that, man.
• 39:00
  SPEAKER_01: What was that for too cool for school, man?
• 39:04
  SPEAKER_01: That would show your age.
• 39:06
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, yeah, yes.
• 39:09
  SPEAKER_00: But uh stupid, I'm just too cool for school, man.
• 39:14
  SPEAKER_01: Uh so all right.
• 39:16
  SPEAKER_01: Uh so anyway, that's what I got on the forgotten bands of uh 60s, 70s, and 80s uh in the rock uh genre.
• 39:28
  SPEAKER_01: Um I suppose I can come up if you just open it up to any of them, but you know, a lot of them you wouldn't know because you never listen to them anyway.
• 39:36
  SPEAKER_01: But anyway, no.
• 39:38
  SPEAKER_01: That's what I got, sir.
• 39:39
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm gonna hand this off to you because I know you have a list, and uh there's a portion.
• 39:45
  SPEAKER_01: I did want to ask you, you brought up uh uh and if you can kind of explain this to me, because I never heard this, I'd honestly never heard this phrase before was the 27 Club.
• 39:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 39:58
  SPEAKER_00: So if you can 27 club, get it yeah, if you can go into that, it'd be great.
• 40:03
  SPEAKER_00: All right.
• 40:04
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I mean the 27 Club was actually just a kind of an a list where people just started noticing, hey man, all these people that have passed away, the rock stars, are 27 years old.
• 40:15
  SPEAKER_00: And you got Janice Joplin, Jimi Hendrix, Jim Morrison, Kirk Cobain, Amy Winehouse, Brian Jones, and um I I know there's some other ones, but those are the kind of the big names that all 27 years old, they all passed away.
• 40:34
  SPEAKER_00: Which is odd.
• 40:35
  SPEAKER_00: Now I wonder why.
• 40:36
  SPEAKER_01: Is it um and then is it is it called like 27?
• 40:43
  SPEAKER_01: Is there like a conspiracy behind that?
• 40:45
  SPEAKER_01: Is there like no aliens, and that's when they you know the they called a home.
• 40:51
  SPEAKER_00: What you know they figured, oh, that's it.
• 40:53
  SPEAKER_00: They were all aliens, and their lifespan was only 27 years old.
• 40:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 40:58
  SPEAKER_00: No, it's all just happened to be just people that were popular that happened to just die at that age.
• 41:05
  SPEAKER_00: You know?
• 41:06
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, yeah, Jimi Hendrix, obviously, you know, it was barbitur's and intoxication.
• 41:12
  SPEAKER_00: Uh if I'm not mistaken, didn't he kind of like die in his own vomit?
• 41:17
  SPEAKER_00: Is that kind of kind of how he died?
• 41:19
  SPEAKER_01: Like I think he kind of like passed out in France, right?
• 41:24
  SPEAKER_01: In Paris or something.
• 41:27
  SPEAKER_01: And uh, I think it he uh passed out in the bathtub, and that was part of the big thing because they got oh that's right.
• 41:34
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and they were trying to get his girlfriend, so that's why it became kind of a big conspiracy kind of thing.
• 41:40
  SPEAKER_01: Wasn't that it?
• 41:41
  SPEAKER_00: I think so.
• 41:42
  SPEAKER_00: Was that it?
• 41:45
  SPEAKER_00: Well, you got I mean, he then you got Janice Joplin, heroin overdose.
• 41:49
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 41:50
  SPEAKER_00: And what you kind of Janice was trying to get off of the heroin, yeah.
• 41:56
  SPEAKER_00: But she went back to her hotel room after she uh recorded.
• 42:00
  SPEAKER_00: Remember um this the last song she did that became popular, me and um Bobby McGee.
• 42:05
  SPEAKER_01: Bobby McGee, yeah.
• 42:07
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that was during those uh recording sessions, she just went back, and I guess she decided just I'm gonna do it again.
• 42:13
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, I she took a big hit and died.
• 42:17
  SPEAKER_01: That back then, yeah, that was uh lot of stuff going around, and I bet you a lot of them pushed her to do it.
• 42:26
  SPEAKER_01: So, like if you were trying to come back, she said she was by herself.
• 42:29
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, well, and then that wouldn't uh she was by herself.
• 42:32
  SPEAKER_00: Well, that's terrible.
• 42:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well, they she said she had a lot of issues being alone, I'm guess.
• 42:41
  SPEAKER_00: She just you know, I mean a lot of these rock stars, you know, get in front of these uh crowds of you know, thousands and thousands of people, then you go back to your whole hotel room and there's nobody there.
• 42:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 42:53
  SPEAKER_00: And it's it's I think it's just depressing.
• 42:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 42:57
  SPEAKER_00: Not that I've ever you know been able to um, you know, know it because well, you know, never played in front of thousands of people.
• 43:04
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I can kind of see that where you're you know, night after night you're in front of you know thousands and thousands of people cheering for you or for you, just and then you go home to a side or home or hotel or whatever to a silent room.
• 43:19
  SPEAKER_01: You're by yourself, cheering, you gotta get your own ice, you know.
• 43:24
  SPEAKER_01: That kind of you know what I mean.
• 43:25
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's just not yeah.
• 43:28
  SPEAKER_00: And then uh I could see where sometimes that probably It'd be interesting, you know what I'd to look up and just see how many people 60s, 70s died early versus you know, like let's say two thousands.
• 43:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah. 'Cause I bet there's not as many.
• 43:47
  SPEAKER_00: Um nowadays as there was back then.
• 43:51
  SPEAKER_01: Um probably not, but I'm thinking if they're the one well, I don't even want to make that statement because I don't wanna I don't wanna do that, but I think you're right.
• 44:03
  SPEAKER_01: And I think the ones that do die are more well known, it seems like.
• 44:12
  SPEAKER_01: Like Kurt Cobain or Amy Weinehouse.
• 44:16
  SPEAKER_01: I don't want to kill your thunder there, but if they are on your list.
• 44:20
  SPEAKER_01: They're on the list.
• 44:21
  SPEAKER_01: I just those are all the 27 clubs there, Douglas.
• 44:24
  SPEAKER_01: Are you serious?
• 44:25
  SPEAKER_01: Really?
• 44:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 44:27
  SPEAKER_00: Kurt Cobain was 27.
• 44:30
  SPEAKER_01: I um.
• 44:32
  SPEAKER_01: Hmm.
• 44:34
  SPEAKER_00: You remember do you remember Brian Jones from the Rolling Stones?
• 44:39
  SPEAKER_01: I do.
• 44:40
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I don't remember him.
• 44:42
  SPEAKER_00: Well, yeah, you never met him.
• 44:44
  SPEAKER_00: I never met him.
• 44:45
  SPEAKER_00: We were good friends.
• 44:45
  SPEAKER_00: We hung out.
• 44:46
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 44:47
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I was uh six.
• 44:50
  SPEAKER_00: Well, you know, I could see that really.
• 44:52
  SPEAKER_00: Bob said no, don't hang around with that guy.
• 44:53
  SPEAKER_00: He's crazy.
• 44:54
  SPEAKER_00: He's dropped.
• 44:55
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but he drowned in his own swimming pool.
• 44:59
  SPEAKER_00: But there's a lot of uh speculation that he was he was OD'd and drowned, kind of thing.
• 45:07
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because he probably could have just stood up.
• 45:11
  SPEAKER_01: If he was somewhere, you know.
• 45:14
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 45:14
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 45:15
  SPEAKER_00: But when you're in the swimming pool and you pass out, yeah, that's trouble.
• 45:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, especially if you're face down.
• 45:23
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 45:24
  SPEAKER_00: Anyway.
• 45:25
  SPEAKER_01: Not to make a joke at it.
• 45:26
  SPEAKER_01: But it's terrible.
• 45:28
  SPEAKER_00: It is.
• 45:28
  SPEAKER_00: It is, and it's just you kind of wonder what they would have done, you know, if they would have lived past 27.
• 45:35
  SPEAKER_00: What you know that's the that's the question.
• 45:37
  SPEAKER_00: I would think how much music.
• 45:39
  SPEAKER_00: I think Hendrix, yeah, I think Hendrix would have kept going.
• 45:43
  SPEAKER_01: I would have loved to see what he came out with after that.
• 45:47
  SPEAKER_01: Just you know.
• 45:49
  SPEAKER_01: Um I can did you mention Jim Morris Morrison?
• 45:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 45:56
  SPEAKER_01: He was in the club.
• 46:01
  SPEAKER_01: You might have buried over in your in uh yes.
• 46:05
  SPEAKER_01: I might have got those two confused.
• 46:07
  SPEAKER_00: You know what?
• 46:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think you're right.
• 46:08
  SPEAKER_00: I think Jim Horrison was the one who died in the bathtub, wasn't he?
• 46:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 46:14
  SPEAKER_00: And they were trying to get his girlfriend saying she did something and gave him drugs or something.
• 46:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 46:20
  SPEAKER_00: I think, yeah, that's I think we got it mixed up.
• 46:23
  SPEAKER_00: Or I did anyway.
• 46:24
  SPEAKER_00: Anyway.
• 46:26
  SPEAKER_00: But anyway, I mean they were Jimi Hendricks, Janice Joplin.
• 46:31
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I don't know about Morrison.
• 46:34
  SPEAKER_00: What do you think?
• 46:34
  SPEAKER_00: Would he have kept going on, been popular, or he would have kind of faded out?
• 46:39
  SPEAKER_00: Um Wow.
• 46:41
  SPEAKER_00: I that's a tough one.
• 46:44
  SPEAKER_00: Um, you gotta kind of think of them as they're they're getting themselves cleaned up at this point.
• 46:51
  SPEAKER_00: You know, they got themselves cleaned up, yeah, they got their acts together, and they're still out there performing.
• 46:58
  SPEAKER_00: Um I don't know.
• 47:03
  SPEAKER_01: They would have had to change with the style.
• 47:06
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, with I think a lot of a lot of these uh people would have had to change their music, you know, with the times.
• 47:15
  SPEAKER_01: Um another thing, you know, uh Morrison wrote most of the song, he was a poet.
• 47:21
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, a lot of poets burn out the older they get, you know, creativity.
• 47:26
  SPEAKER_01: So I don't I don't know.
• 47:28
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe that's why he was burning out at that point.
• 47:30
  SPEAKER_01: Who knows?
• 47:31
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it was um it would it would have been cool to find out, put it that way, you know, how much more all these people had in them and what what music they would have put out, what we missed out on is the thing.
• 47:45
  SPEAKER_00: And speaking of that, one of my all-time favorites of all time, Buddy Holly, was only 22 when he died in the plane crash.
• 47:52
  unknown: Man.
• 47:54
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, Buddy, Richie Vollins, and the big bopper all died that night.
• 47:58
  SPEAKER_00: They were all in their well, Buddy was 22.
• 48:02
  SPEAKER_00: I think the B Bopper, he was still in his 20s.
• 48:05
  SPEAKER_00: He was 28.
• 48:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 48:06
  SPEAKER_00: He was 28.
• 48:07
  SPEAKER_00: He seemed older just because he he looked older.
• 48:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but he was 28, and then Richie Vallon was only 17.
• 48:14
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 48:15
  SPEAKER_00: When he passed away.
• 48:17
  SPEAKER_00: But anyway, back to Buddy Holly.
• 48:18
  SPEAKER_00: I think Buddy Holly would have just been in the next 20 years, he would have still been making music, still putting stuff out.
• 48:24
  SPEAKER_00: But he was so always experimenting.
• 48:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he was yeah, he was a guy that just loved to do different stuff and do different music, and I think he would have been real very relevant.
• 48:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think so.
• 48:35
  SPEAKER_01: He still is today.
• 48:36
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, you listen to some of his music that was ahead of its time.
• 48:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 48:41
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, using strings and stuff like that, and yeah, just the whole arrangement stuff, yeah.
• 48:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he was yeah, and that was sad.
• 48:50
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, you could do a whole show on that that crash and everything that happened.
• 48:53
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they did the movie, didn't they?
• 48:55
  SPEAKER_01: Wasn't there a movie on that one?
• 48:56
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, several movies on it.
• 48:57
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, oh yeah.
• 48:59
  SPEAKER_00: Several movies on it.
• 48:59
  SPEAKER_00: Was it Whalen Jennings?
• 49:01
  SPEAKER_00: Was it Whalen?
• 49:02
  SPEAKER_00: Whalen Jennings was the guy that gave up his seat to uh Richie.
• 49:06
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, there you go.
• 49:08
  SPEAKER_00: Because uh Buddy had rented the plane for him and his band members, and Whalen was in the band at the time that he was doing you know guitar because he Buddy had kind of broken away from the crickets.
• 49:20
  SPEAKER_00: And Whalen was supposed to be on the plane, and then Richie, you know, said, Hey man, uh, can I have your seat?
• 49:26
  SPEAKER_00: And uh he gave up his seat to Richie.
• 49:30
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm sure he had a lot of guilt after that.
• 49:33
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, I bet he did.
• 49:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 49:35
  SPEAKER_00: Because they they all crashed.
• 49:37
  SPEAKER_00: It was a small plane.
• 49:38
  SPEAKER_00: I guess the uh very inexperienced pilot took off in a snowstorm at night and just didn't know uh how close they were to the ground and where they were at.
• 49:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, nope, yeah, should not have been flying, period.
• 49:52
  SPEAKER_00: And crashed.
• 49:53
  SPEAKER_00: They didn't find them until the next day.
• 49:56
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, not like today, where you go down, they know immediately where you're at.
• 50:00
  SPEAKER_00: They had no idea.
• 50:01
  SPEAKER_00: No idea, yeah.
• 50:02
  SPEAKER_00: No idea.
• 50:03
  SPEAKER_00: They just know that oh my gosh, they they never showed up.
• 50:06
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 50:08
  SPEAKER_00: All right.
• 50:09
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I mean, you also got um remember Sid Vicious?
• 50:13
  SPEAKER_00: I do.
• 50:14
  SPEAKER_00: Sex Pistols.
• 50:15
  SPEAKER_00: Sex Pistols, he was only 21.
• 50:17
  SPEAKER_00: 21.
• 50:18
  SPEAKER_00: Obviously, the drugs got him too.
• 50:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I remember him.
• 50:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 50:23
  SPEAKER_00: The crazy band.
• 50:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, crazy band.
• 50:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 50:27
  SPEAKER_00: Uh Eddie Cochran, remember him?
• 50:30
  unknown: Eddie Cochran.
• 50:31
  SPEAKER_00: Cochran, Rockabilly.
• 50:33
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 50:34
  SPEAKER_00: He was 21.
• 50:35
  SPEAKER_00: Automobile accident.
• 50:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, automobile accident.
• 50:38
  SPEAKER_00: 60, 1960.
• 50:40
  SPEAKER_00: Man.
• 50:41
  SPEAKER_00: And we talked about Dwayne Allman in the motorcycle accident.
• 50:44
  SPEAKER_00: He was only 24.
• 50:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 50:47
  SPEAKER_00: Died relatively uh relatively young.
• 50:50
  SPEAKER_00: He probably would have been a lot more in that guy.
• 50:52
  SPEAKER_00: There had to be a lot more music in him.
• 50:54
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, I'm sure there was.
• 50:55
  SPEAKER_00: He was uh he was a heck of a musician there.
• 50:58
  SPEAKER_00: Mm-hmm.
• 50:59
  SPEAKER_00: And you remember Otis Redding?
• 51:01
  SPEAKER_00: I do.
• 51:02
  SPEAKER_00: 26.
• 51:03
  SPEAKER_00: Only 26.
• 51:04
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't know that.
• 51:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 51:06
  SPEAKER_00: Remember his song uh Sitting on the Dock of the Bay came out after he passed away.
• 51:12
  SPEAKER_00: And he was uh airplane crash.
• 51:15
  SPEAKER_00: I did not know that.
• 51:17
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so you want to stay away from airplanes and drugs if you're famous.
• 51:20
  SPEAKER_00: Apparently so.
• 51:22
  SPEAKER_00: Apparently, yeah, you don't you die early.
• 51:24
  SPEAKER_00: Anything with an engine yeah, and you got um, let's see, um blind melons.
• 51:34
  SPEAKER_00: That's kind of like out of the rock uh classic rock, that was 95.
• 51:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we passed away.
• 51:44
  SPEAKER_00: Um who else we got on the list?
• 51:47
  SPEAKER_00: Graham Parsons, Graham Parsons?
• 51:53
  SPEAKER_00: Remember him at all?
• 51:54
  SPEAKER_01: The birds oh yeah, yeah, I was thinking of Parsons.
• 51:59
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, that's a different person.
• 52:02
  SPEAKER_00: Different person.
• 52:02
  SPEAKER_00: 26.
• 52:04
  SPEAKER_00: That was drugs too.
• 52:06
  SPEAKER_00: And then yeah, obviously, you know, I didn't have a list.
• 52:09
  SPEAKER_00: Um, how old we know what's his name?
• 52:11
  SPEAKER_00: Um, from ACDC Bon Scott.
• 52:14
  SPEAKER_00: I think he was older than 26, wasn't he?
• 52:17
  SPEAKER_00: Um seems like it.
• 52:22
  SPEAKER_00: Because he was a lot older than the rest of the band.
• 52:25
  SPEAKER_00: Um well, I can look.
• 52:28
  SPEAKER_00: I'll tell you what.
• 52:28
  SPEAKER_00: You keep going, I'll look it up.
• 52:31
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 52:33
  SPEAKER_00: No, he was uh Yeah, he died.
• 52:36
  SPEAKER_00: Same reason he could basically the same thing that got Jimi Hendrix he passed away on.
• 52:41
  SPEAKER_00: Getting too drunk and and he uh threw up.
• 52:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and he was just too intoxicated to uh to lean over and he beam and he died in his own vomit, kind of thing.
• 52:50
  SPEAKER_00: Terrible.
• 52:53
  SPEAKER_00: Well, those are kind of all I've got right really in the 20s right now.
• 52:57
  SPEAKER_00: Can anybody think of anybody else that died really early?
• 53:03
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you remember Mark Bolan?
• 53:12
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 53:13
  SPEAKER_00: T-Rex.
• 53:15
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, I remember T-Rex, yes.
• 53:19
  SPEAKER_01: He died in uh 29 in a car crash.
• 53:22
  SPEAKER_00: 29, so he was he was young.
• 53:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 53:24
  SPEAKER_00: Say Bon Scott, he was uh 33.
• 53:28
  SPEAKER_00: So he's an older member.
• 53:29
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he was older, yeah.
• 53:30
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, don't forget about uh Ronnie Vane's aunt.
• 53:34
  SPEAKER_00: Ron's aunt and the we got Gaines and Gaines' sister.
• 53:46
  SPEAKER_00: That was a plane crash.
• 53:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 53:50
  SPEAKER_00: It was kind of a common thing going on there.
• 53:53
  SPEAKER_00: It kind of seemed like it, yeah.
• 53:55
  SPEAKER_01: I never heard of uh I had a list myself.
• 53:59
  SPEAKER_01: Uh Ron Pigpin McCarnin from The Grateful Dead.
• 54:03
  SPEAKER_01: You're a Grateful Dead fan, aren't you?
• 54:07
  SPEAKER_00: No, no, sorry.
• 54:09
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he died uh when he was 27, but he died of uh um gastritis, gastinal um so it was uh hemorrhage or something.
• 54:22
  SPEAKER_00: There's an old one, Robert Johnson.
• 54:27
  SPEAKER_00: He's old Delta Blues man died at 27 in 1938, so he he probably uh led to uh a lot of the rock and roll back in the day.
• 54:39
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, as to say what he died of.
• 54:42
  SPEAKER_00: Um no, it doesn't.
• 54:47
  SPEAKER_00: I don't really know.
• 54:50
  SPEAKER_00: Oh uh Cliff Burton.
• 54:53
  SPEAKER_01: Cliff Burton Metallica.
• 54:57
  SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah, that's right.
• 54:58
  SPEAKER_01: He died when he was 24 in a bus crash.
• 55:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 55:02
  SPEAKER_00: Um that anything to do with his torn, I wonder.
• 55:07
  SPEAKER_00: Uh well, he torn and he passed away.
• 55:11
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I would assume if he was in a bus crash.
• 55:15
  SPEAKER_01: But was uh I don't remember him.
• 55:18
  SPEAKER_01: He didn't eat well.
• 55:22
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think they were torn at the time.
• 55:26
  SPEAKER_01: I think it was a tour bus.
• 55:30
  SPEAKER_00: That'll get you.
• 55:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 55:34
  SPEAKER_00: All right.
• 55:35
  SPEAKER_00: Well, that's all I got on that subject, unless you got anything else.
• 55:39
  SPEAKER_01: Um I don't so I don't want to leave the crowd in this depressing state either.
• 55:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's got to be down or dead people, yeah.
• 55:53
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, cut her down.
• 55:54
  SPEAKER_00: I was reading the list and they're going, why I'm getting more and more depressed.
• 55:57
  SPEAKER_00: I know.
• 55:58
  SPEAKER_01: It's like it well, it's depressing, and I think it's depressing because well, one, they died early, because you hate to see that.
• 56:04
  SPEAKER_01: And two, is like how much more songs and and stuff could they have put out.
• 56:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, put out potential, and you know, just kind of um guided the whole landscape of music through the years.
• 56:21
  SPEAKER_01: You know, we might have never had disco.
• 56:23
  SPEAKER_01: You never know.
• 56:25
  SPEAKER_00: Never know.
• 56:26
  SPEAKER_00: Never know, and I'm sure there's more out there, more lists out there that people know that say they forgot this person, this person.
• 56:32
  SPEAKER_00: But it's it's cad.
• 56:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 56:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 56:35
  SPEAKER_00: How'd you forget about it?
• 56:37
  SPEAKER_00: Unbelievable.
• 56:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 56:39
  SPEAKER_00: Unbelievable people.
• 56:40
  SPEAKER_00: I don't understand it.
• 56:42
  SPEAKER_00: But that's kind of the list I have.
• 56:44
  SPEAKER_00: And uh anything else you want to talk about?
• 56:47
  SPEAKER_00: Um anything else you got in your mind?
• 56:49
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, there's not much in my mind.
• 56:52
  SPEAKER_01: Um I try to go blank on the weekends.
• 56:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I know.
• 56:55
  SPEAKER_01: It's a purge.
• 56:56
  SPEAKER_01: It's just um um no, I I don't um no, I don't think so.
• 57:07
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 57:08
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 57:10
  SPEAKER_01: We could probably wrap it up.
• 57:11
  SPEAKER_01: Um wrapped up here.
• 57:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 57:15
  SPEAKER_01: I can't think of anything.
• 57:17
  SPEAKER_01: There was something there that I wanted to say, but I can't remember now.
• 57:23
  SPEAKER_01: No, I I I mentioned the Paul Simon, right?
• 57:28
  SPEAKER_01: His new album.
• 57:29
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 57:29
  SPEAKER_01: But it's a live album.
• 57:30
  SPEAKER_01: It's a live album recorded 25.
• 57:34
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm gonna I'm gonna take a listen to that when we get off here.
• 57:38
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's not bad.
• 57:41
  SPEAKER_01: You know, it's uh it's like I said, it's got uh pretty much the hits, right?
• 57:46
  SPEAKER_00: Um and then um you know the thing I got uh brought up is I watched a documentary on Russia's drummer, Neil.
• 57:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Neil Purt.
• 57:58
  SPEAKER_00: And I did not know this, but Neil never graduated from high school.
• 58:04
  SPEAKER_00: He dropped out when he was 17 to pursue music.
• 58:08
  SPEAKER_00: Well, so didn't never graduated.
• 58:10
  SPEAKER_00: So did I like man, the guy he's just known for his intellect and that.
• 58:14
  SPEAKER_00: He's like, man, yeah, Alex dropped out of high school too.
• 58:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 58:20
  SPEAKER_00: Neil went over, he went over to uh Europe to um pursue his music because he he was in bands here and he just couldn't make it.
• 58:28
  SPEAKER_00: You know, the record companies saying, Yeah, we don't we don't see anything, there's there's nothing there.
• 58:33
  SPEAKER_00: Went over to England for I think a year or two and tried to make it there and couldn't make it there, came back and then got a call from Rush.
• 58:42
  SPEAKER_00: That was uh all the lifetime right there, wasn't it?
• 58:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 58:46
  SPEAKER_00: Um yeah, Getty and Getty and Alex always say the first time they saw him, they're like, Who's this geeky guy?
• 58:53
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he doesn't look like he could do anything.
• 58:56
  SPEAKER_00: He reads, yeah, yeah.
• 59:00
  SPEAKER_00: Um she're reading a lot of books.
• 59:02
  SPEAKER_01: You want to write somewhere with you?
• 59:04
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's gonna be a problem.
• 59:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 59:07
  SPEAKER_01: So uh anyway, that's all I got.
• 59:10
  SPEAKER_01: I do have uh I I did pull up some more of albums, uh, people that were bringing out albums this month that were gonna drop Peter Gabriel.
• 59:18
  SPEAKER_01: Um actually that already dropped on the ninth.
• 59:22
  SPEAKER_01: Um who else?
• 59:29
  SPEAKER_01: Richard Thompson, The Hippies, Thugs and Heroes released uh this coming week.
• 59:37
  SPEAKER_01: Um ministry.
• 59:40
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know a lot of these people.
• 59:42
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know these people.
• 59:43
  SPEAKER_01: Uh the only one I really heard of in this list was it's uh Amy Bell and the Mascals, Richard Thomas, Peter Hamill, Palace, and Ministry um are coming out with a new album.
• 59:57
  SPEAKER_01: Can't say I've really heard of any of those, though.
• 59:59
  SPEAKER_00: Just Peter Gabriel, that's it.
• 1:00:01
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:00:02
  SPEAKER_00: So Peter Gabriel.
• 1:00:05
  SPEAKER_00: He had some good albums there.
• 1:00:07
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:00:08
  SPEAKER_00: After he left Genesis, he had a couple good albums there.
• 1:00:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 1:00:12
  SPEAKER_01: So I think I think he um the Genesis doing a return uh reunion with uh Peter Gabriel.
• 1:00:23
  SPEAKER_01: Uh Phil Collins?
• 1:00:25
  SPEAKER_01: No, Peter Gabriel, is it Roth Ruff Rutherford, the guitar player?
• 1:00:30
  SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm that was in Mike and Mechanics or was Mike and the Mechanics.
• 1:00:35
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:00:35
  SPEAKER_01: And then the keyboard player.
• 1:00:37
  unknown: Oh.
• 1:00:38
  SPEAKER_01: Are uh getting back together for the uh reunion.
• 1:00:42
  SPEAKER_00: But wouldn't it basically though Phil Collins took over for Peter Graham when they they probably never really did music together?
• 1:00:50
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, they did.
• 1:00:51
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Peter They did, yeah.
• 1:00:53
  SPEAKER_01: Phil was the drummer and Peter was the lead singer, and then when Peter left, um Phil took the Phil took over the lead uh vocals and still played drums at the same time.
• 1:01:06
  SPEAKER_00: And then he you know Yeah, I would think being a drummer would have its tool in your body.
• 1:01:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, which you know he's he's hurting.
• 1:01:15
  SPEAKER_01: Uh you know, he's not in great health today, so yeah.
• 1:01:18
  SPEAKER_01: Uh that would take a toll.
• 1:01:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I would think so.
• 1:01:22
  SPEAKER_00: But uh like playing guitar, you just your fingers.
• 1:01:26
  SPEAKER_00: Well, your body's not really yeah, yeah, your fingers, but like a drumming, your your feet, your arms, your everything's well, that's why a lot of people I think when they get older can't do it anymore.
• 1:01:37
  SPEAKER_00: Can't do it.
• 1:01:37
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it was like Neil.
• 1:01:38
  SPEAKER_01: I saw a uh that's why, yeah, he wanted to quit because he said I just can't do it anymore.
• 1:01:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:01:45
  SPEAKER_00: And um he always made the comment.
• 1:01:47
  SPEAKER_00: He said he you people say, Well, Charlie Watts is still out there, and he says, Yeah, Charlie doesn't do what I do.
• 1:01:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, he he doesn't, definitely doesn't.
• 1:01:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:01:57
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:01:58
  SPEAKER_01: So anyways, well, that's uh anyway, that's all I got.
• 1:02:01
  SPEAKER_01: And uh okay.
• 1:02:03
  SPEAKER_01: You uh sir, have a great uh great week, and uh we'll we'll see everybody next week.
• 1:02:10
  SPEAKER_01: Sounds good if you remember, if it sounds good, it must be classic rock.
• 1:02:16
  SPEAKER_01: All right, ladies and gentlemen, and kids.
• 1:02:18
  SPEAKER_01: See you later, and aliens, and anybody in the conspiracy room.
• 1:02:23
  SPEAKER_01: Have a great week, and we'll talk to you later.