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Raising Kids Who Include Others: Lessons From Best Buddies Ambassador Miller Peoples · Campfire Guide to Parenting

• speaker-0: Third grade and the whole school in the cafeteria. A microphone waiting, and he says no. Now most kids forget the things they turned down. My guest didn't. The regret sat there long enough that it turned into something else, a conscious decision. From that day forward, if a school or an event would have him, he was gonna show up and say yes. Twelve years later, numerous campuses and event speaking appearances. Good Samaritan Award because he kept coming back, a leadership role in friendship program that's had him speaking on its behalf ever since. Here's what makes it stranger and more amazing to me. Talking out loud in front of people is one of the harder things his own body asks of him. He picked it anyway, over and over. This is Campfire Guide to Parenting. I'm Mike McDonald. Let's gather round. Welcome back. If you're new here, this is where I sit down with fascinating people who've actually lived the hard parts of raising kids, or in today's case, of growing up, not just people who've studied them. Today's guest is somebody I've known for years, and I consider him one of my best friends and a real inspiration in my life. Now we've been side by side at events for causes we both care about long before either of us thought about even doing a podcast together. So, this is really special for me as well as real personal. So, without further ado, I would like to introduce Mr. Miller Peoples. He's been a part of Best Buddies organization since his freshman year of high school, advocating for people with intellectual and developmental disabilities. He's currently an ambassador for the Best Buddies program in Central Texas and is also part of the Westlake High School ATS program. Somewhere along the way, he started a tradition nobody assigned to him, showing up at schools to talk about kids and inclusion. One of those schools, Barton Creek Elementary, even gave him their Good Samaritan Award for returning and continuing his tradition of speaking to kids. He is joined by his amazing mother, Stephanie, who will be supporting him today when needed. Miller, welcome to the show, dude. And thanks, Stephanie, for being here too. speaker-1: Hi my carriage. speaker-0: What is going on, Miller? speaker-1: I excited to be on the podcast and you know quite a lot a lot about me. That was awesome. speaker-0: That you know what, Miller? I well, I I it was hard. When I put a g my bio together for you, dude, it takes a little bit of thinking because there's so much I could have included in that. I could probably could have gone on for for a long time. But dude, it's just so great to have you here with me, man, today. Thank you so much for doing this. And and and Stephanie, thank you too for for helping out with this and and being a part of this. speaker-1: Thanks for having us. I don't know that you can see me, but thanks for having me. speaker-0: No worries, no worries. We're glad you're here. All right. So, Miller, this is a conversation, man. Just like you and I hanging out and we're gonna talk because I think your story is fascinating. I think people wanna know about it. And this is also another opportunity for you to talk about inclusion and talk about what you do. But I want to start easy right now. First of all, just tell people who you are and what you're up to these days. speaker-1: Okay, I'm Millow Peoples. I am an inclusivity advocate and Best Parties Advocate and I go to the ATS program in the district and I've continued to go to campuses more often. So if you're any family, watch out. You might see me and I speaker-0: You're a busy man. You're a busy man. speaker-1: Yes, and I'm also an alum about Crico and then Trico Blue Jace! speaker-0: Miller, I I think it's important. and I want to kind of go back a little bit, okay? I want to go back further because I think people should hear where your unique journey sort of began, right? and and I and I and I and I guess what I want to know is is what do you know and understand about your own story? Like being born early, what happened after that? because I think that's important to set the stage for your advocacy. speaker-1: Well, I was born early and I had a brain hemorrhage and I didn't know that this would happen to me, but w looking back on it now, I kind of remember it and I sort of w like to look back on things like that because I think they're important to know and I also think now that I've been going to Ean's ISD campuses I am getting the word out there like, hey, disabled people can do this. And in my case, I was born early, but I I think and not a lot of people know this, or not a lot of people know that people in wheelchairs or with disabilities tend to lean programs. Like That's unheard of. And I think families like you guys and other family they've met kind of set the stage for me on that. So you guys and other families kind of helped me to realize that. And now I've gotten an award for knowing that from Burton Creek, so yep. speaker-0: Well, I I I my my comment to that would be, and first of all, thank you very much for for for talking about that. I think you made me realize that somebody with a disability like yours can do so many things. And in fact, I think that you had this incredible opportunity to make a difference in the lives of so many people because of that disability. And I think that's one of the things that I was drawn to you about. so I think it was more maybe you making a difference in me than maybe me making a difference in you. But I mean, I don't know. is there a word that you use for your diagnosis and how it affects you that's different from how other people might put it or see you? Like how do you understand what I mean by that? speaker-1: well I think it's the word I use for my diagnosis is difficult because not a lot of people have this discipline. Yeah. Not a lot of people have a brain inward and I did. And I th and I think most people out there who knew me didn't even know that that happened. Probably just know that I'm an inclusivity advocate and now speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: and now they're learning back to me that they may not know so yeah. speaker-0: Was there a day, Miller, when you can remember what changed everything for you? How you went from being somebody who had a disability to somebody who felt like they could advocate for other people? Was there a time, was there a change, was there a point in time that made you realize, you know, that that you have an opportunity to make a difference by changing the way people think about those with with with disabilities? speaker-1: I can't remember a specific day, but it has happened. Because like I remember a time when I was asked to go to one of the campuses and I said no and I think this was actually Peggy who asked me. So so I think because I said no to that one I kind of I kind of helped people know that that happened, but now I have started reaching out to campuses and going out and I think people appreciate that. speaker-0: for sure. And I wanna, and I know the story that you're talking about, Miller. And I wanna I wanna go back there a little bit because I think that that's real important to your journey, right? And it was, Peggy, I think. I think you were in third grade at the time, maybe, right? And you were invited to the elementary school, Barton Creek, to speak on inclusivity and maybe tell a little bit of your story. And I think You know, I think you said no, and I don't blame you. I mean, most third graders wouldn't get up in front of an entire student body and talk about most anything, much less something about something so personal to you. and I think you remember that, right? I mean, third grade's a long time ago for you. and you just mentioned to me that you said no. so so take me after that. Did you regret not saying no? Because I feel like something happened in saying no that maybe fueled you or made you think twice about the next time you got invited. Talk to me a little bit about that. speaker-1: Well, I remember that day and like they had come over to my house one day and Peggy was like come to a campus with me and I turned it down w which she wasn't expecting but now that I look back on it I think since then I've gone to many other campuses and spread of the word and since then I think I've had maybe one or two campus principals give me a hug. So yeah. speaker-0: Something changed in you though, man. Like you could have said no to every other one that was asked of you, though. You know what I'm saying? and but something changed in you. Something made, something pulled the courage out of you to go up on top of that stage and talk about inclusivity, right? because you could have said no. I mean, you know, you could have, and that would have been fine. But something inside of you made you want to do it again and again and again. And what was that? speaker-1: Well, that's what I'm saying. I've done that several times now. speaker-0: Yeah. Did you just all of a sudden decide to do it because you felt like it was the right thing to do or you wanted to speak in front of crowds? Or how did that happen for you? speaker-1: Well, I sort of remembered that year because I remember that year. I think I was maybe sick with an illness or something, and I remember them coming to me and offering that and I just couldn't were this thing no speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: and and they couldn't understand why 'cause it was Barton Creek and I love the blue jays and I know you know them because you guys were there at the time th that I was but I think maybe Since then I've kind of decided that I should be the one doing it and maybe spreading the word and I I am I am and actually I remember a memory with you well 'Cause we were at some event and you were telling the audience you were speaking to to do something and it was trivia and you said to me, You can't give the answer and I did anyway. speaker-0: I would imagine now that you have spoken so much to so many audiences, that's gotten easier. Has it gotten easier for you? speaker-1: It has, 'cause looking back to that year that you mentioned, I think I was scared at that time and I didn't know what to expect. No, I do. speaker-0: Yeah. And what do you think that impact has had on people, your audience, when you're speaking to a group of kids or adults, what do you think your words mean to them? speaker-1: I think they appreciate that. And I think they appreciate that. And you said in the intro that they gave me the Good Snowden Award. That's that's that's because I did that. speaker-0: Yeah. Yeah. How did it feel to get that award for you, by the way? That must have felt really good, huh? speaker-1: It was good, and I even got my award personally handed to me from the superintendent. speaker-0: Must have been a pretty proud day for you, huh? speaker-1: Yes, it was and it wasn't the superintendent that you guys knew. It wasn't Arnette because he had left at that time, but I had seen that superintendent a couple of times before getting that message and I had seen him a couple of times. Yeah, and let me just tell you when I got that email that I was gonna receive that award? I thought it was spam. speaker-0: You thought was spam, huh? You didn't think it was real, right? speaker-1: Yes. speaker-0: What did you have to did you have to call the district to to find out if this was a real deal or what? speaker-1: I did read it and it turns out they were actually gonna honor me. speaker-0: my gosh, that's hilarious. It was a real deal though, for sure. my gosh. I I I have to share this with people. And I before we go further in our discussion, I I I want to read the email that you sent me several weeks ago, right? Giving me your pitch on why you should be on the show, right? Do you mind if I read a little bit of that? Is that okay? speaker-1: For the audience? speaker-0: Yeah, for everybody right now. I want I wanna because I think it's great, okay? speaker-1: okay. Close right there. speaker-0: So, so so just just for context, Miller emails me out of the blue one day and goes, Hey, I've been watching your podcast and I think I I should be a guest on your show, and here's why. And he like sold me on it. It didn't take more than like a second, right, to to for me to be sold. But I want to read you a little bit of what he said. He said, quote, I am very much interested in being a guest on your podcast. I would like to talk about some ideas I have for parents of disabled children and how young adults can raise their children in a world that includes leadership programs. It will help them build better friendships and get to know the world beyond summer camp. I would be honored to come on. I am passionate about spreading the word of best buddies and inclusivity. That's what you wrote. Do you remember writing that to me? speaker-1: Yeah yes I do. speaker-0: I think I probably called you like the the moment I read that and said, You're you're your book, dude. This is happening. and I'm so glad that you're here. Now, you've spoken at a ton of different schools, including, you know, you mentioned Barton Creek and Westridge, Doss, Hill Country, Eans, Cedar Creek. What keeps coming you back to speak to to audiences and to crowds? What makes you wanna return and talk to people, Miller? speaker-1: They're interested in it. And I don't know if you know this. Eines was the very first district to have best buddies on all of their campuses. speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: So knowing that I've been able to do that and I remember that year that they announced that. I think it was A couple years before you guys relocated to Houston and since then I've gone and done that a few times and I've been noticed on Facebook. speaker-0: Right. And now you're on a podcast. You are, you are, you're, you're a mover and a shaker, dude, when it comes to the speaking scene. But I also know that speaking takes more effort for you, right, than it does for a lot of people. Why choose the hardest possible way to make this point about inclusivity over and over when when that's a hard thing for you to do? speaker-1: in well well I just like c coming and doing it and it's amazing but I just like coming and doing it and I think It's amazing and I just like coming in and doing it and it's amazing and speaker-0: I love that answer. That's good. speaker-1: I am and you know something, Mike? I don't do you know something, Mike? I do that you don't do that very often. You do that for conventure but not very often. And most people don't like public speaking. So have someone Who can do that and no that's me. It just makes me so so happy. You remember stories like that? I think I've been to some of your events that that that that you guys and I have done. Yeah. speaker-0: Well, I want to flip this around for a second, okay? And I want to talk a little bit more about Best Buddies, right? and Bust Buddies was never sort of organized and set up to be a one-way street, right? and before I sort of talk about that, I don't know if everybody in the audience you know knows about Best Buddies International, but I I want to enlighten our viewers about this, right? So Best Buddies International is an American nonprofit organization, and it consists of Volunteers that create opportunities for people with intellectual and developmental disabilities. The program's main purpose is to pair volunteers with a buddy who has an intellectual and a developmental disability and then provide them with a friend or a mentor. And Best Buddies is the world's largest organization dedicated to ending the social, physical, and economic isolation of the 200 million or so people with IDD. And it's an international movement that has spread to over fifty four countries worldwide, Miller. talk to me about your your involvement in Best Buddies and what and what sort of Best Buddies has meant to you. speaker-1: Well, it's been amazing. And as I mentioned before, we were the first district to have it on all of our campuses. So in twenty twenty, right right before COVID. They started it, but it was only at the high school. And now it's at All campuses and and now it's all campuses. Are there many districts that have it spread out or do you think we're one of the most unique ones? speaker-0: I think Eanes originally was one of the most unique school districts, at least in Texas. A lot of high schools, I think, had best buddies programs. But you're right about that. I think they were one of the first to extend that all the way through their elementary school level, which, if you think about it, makes a lot of sense, right? Because if kids, when they're young, kindergarten, first grade, second grade, learn about inclusivity, learn about disabilities, intellectual and and and otherwise, you then I would I would think that they would have a better opportunity learning about that, understanding about that, being acceptive of that long before they even got to high school. So I was glad, right, to see that best buddies reach down into those younger grades. And I think we're going to see that that decision to do that is a powerful one. And more people will become more aware and inclusivity will be I think a greater thing for more people because of it. What do you think about that? speaker-1: Yeah, I agree with you on that one because not many districts have that. We were the one. And also not many districts have an eighteen plus program that as an ambassador, that can that but our district does. speaker-0: Right. I'm I'm curious, Miller. So let I want to talk about your personal experience with Best Buddies a little bit more outside of sort of like talking about Best Buddies or or presenting to a to a group of people. so what has Best Buddies given you, not what you've given it. So tell me about, let's do this. Tell me about a friend who's meant something to you. speaker-1: Well, actually I have a couple friends that something to make my I met through those connections. You raised on one of them. And I was gonna say I've met so many representative from Central Texas like over the years like Morgan Elka, Window Milton, Taylor Sweevey. I was just talking to Linda Milton yesterday actually. So yeah, I've made some good friends. speaker-0: So those friendships through best buddies have been real important for you, I'm assuming then, right? That's what I'm hearing from you? speaker-1: I yes. and your daughter had the also there too. speaker-0: For sure, right? She's been a good friend of yours, huh, over the years, maybe, huh? speaker-1: Yeah. speaker-0: what do you what do you tell somebody? No, go ahead, finish finish finish your thought, Miller. speaker-1: Huh? Miller's asking me, you have a ton of friends that you've met, who are best buddies, I think were a little nervous today. no no no. Go ahead and continue. speaker-0: Okay. I guess what I'm I I'm I want to ask you about is what do you wish more people understood about friendship with someone who has a disability? I would imagine there's a lot of people who don't have any friends that have a disability. And for those people maybe in particular, what do you wish more people understood about that particular friendship with someone who does have a disability? speaker-1: I wish more people understood that people with disabilities could do that and I also think that there should be more people with d disabilities. who could do that and I know some people I won't name any of them here because it's be because I don't want to, but there but there are so many people I know who've gone through that. And I wish there was more friends. speaker-0: You wish d you wish more people were friends with someone who had a disability, right? Is that what you're telling me? speaker-1: Ye Yeah, that's kinda cool. Do you know anyone, Mike? Can you remember a story similar to that? What speaker-0: Well, I I don't know if I have a particular story, but I do know that when we've been at events or we've asked people to go to Gala's for Best Buddies who were not associated, right, with with Best Buddies, who maybe saw for the first time in their life, so many people with disabilities who were doing amazing things and speaking on a stage. I have no doubt in my mind that that their impression of people with disabilities opened up. To a different place that wasn't there before. Right. And I think that's the power of maybe what you do, right? Is you give people an opportunity to think about somebody who has a challenge or a disability like you do. because in their mind, they've not associated with people like that. Maybe they don't have friends with someone who has a disability. and I think opportunities like that, whether that's the friendship walk, which I don't know if you saw, I'm wearing the shirt today, by the way, representing. Or it's a or it's a Best Buddies Gala, gives people that opportunity. I mean, one of my favorite things to do when I would MC those events was, and I would get a table, right, was to invite people, specifically who were not part of Best Buddies, who had no association with it. And to watch their face when they were in that room, when someone like you would be speaking, or somebody like William was up on the stage, or or whoever it might have been, just to see their face light up and to feel that. Distance, right? Between someone with a disability and somebody who doesn't have a disability, come closer. To me, that was one of the most, I mean, that was one of the most inspiring things that that I witnessed, right? And I think, you know, a lot of what you do is you're shortening that distance between people who don't know because they're just not associated with people with with disabilities. And you're giving them an opportunity to say, hey, man, people with disabilities. They're amazing. They can do all these things, right? and I think that's the power in part in what you do, right? If you're talking to a kid, Miller, maybe who's scared to say yes to something hard, like you had that opportunity, right? What would you tell him or her to do? speaker-1: I would tell them to try it because you don't know how it's like until you try. Like that first event at the distributional including C Limits that you guys did, I didn't know the gala existed until I got invited. to that one and I've gone to many events since then. You really have to try it. And I've also been invited to be a champion for this year's event, which I am really excited about. speaker-0: Miller, I'm excited for you. I I you know, here's what I what I love about your story, right? You took like this regret in third grade, right? This opportunity that you said no to, and you turned it into like an opportunity to advocate and speak on behalf of anyone with intellectual or developmental disabilities. And and you You know that speaking is one of the most challenging things for you yet. It's that tool that you wield, that you weld so courageously and effectively. And that is one of the reasons that I'm so completely inspired by you. So what does the future hold for Miller Peoples, by the way? if you could look into a glass ball and you could figure out what you want to do, With with with yourself. What does that look like for you, Miller? speaker-1: Well, I've actually got something like that that I'm working on now! speaker-0: Okay. Tell speaker-1: so you wanna hear what I'm working on? speaker-0: Yeah. That's what I'm I'm trying to dig in a little bit here, Miller. speaker-1: Well, you might find this interesting. So you know how I'm at the ATS right now? speaker-0: Yeah, you wanna explain to people what ATS is so they have a better understanding of that? speaker-1: ATS is Adult Transition Services. It's where we go out in the community and volunteer with nonprofit organizations that might need help. And my teaching assistant Farmer had the idea to take something he does, which is So, I know you know this is gonna sound crazy to you speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: sell or offer Colombian coffee out of a Willie's Jeep imported from Columbia. speaker-0: Okay. speaker-1: So he so he doesn't have a Jeep right now, but What you were thinking is getting a coffee maker imported from Chicago, Illinois and using that to go out into the community and offer that. and I've talked to some people about that like Today we went to Mobile Robes and Fetches and some of the guys there about that and this is interesting. Yesterday I was at the Central Texas food bench and I met a guy named Claude who uses cookies to tell a story. speaker-0: Really? speaker-1: Yeah, and it's similar to Kate's Cookie Company. The one that you like, it's similar speaker-0: Okay. speaker-1: to Kate's because it's online and you have to get a QR code to buy it, but they're really good. speaker-0: I'm hearing a little entrepreneurial spirit here is what I is what's intriguing you, right? Is this something that you do you see yourself starting a business in the future, Miller? speaker-1: I do, and you know that story, we couldn't have done that, but we were there to get a tour for General Dex Food Bank. Right. And my assistant told that there was a cookie company and he knew that I loved cookies. So what we did so what we did was See that there was that. Go up to that guy and ask and ask if he was interested and he for sure was. speaker-0: Alright. speaker-1: So we're getting that I don't know what it's gonna be called yet, cause he's got names for his cookies, and the one that I tried was called the Good neighbor and and and and this guy does something so cool. When that cookie is ordered, he gets the location of the people that wanted it and delivers it personally to them. speaker-0: Nice. Maybe you could combine the coffee and the cookies together in some kind of business deal. What do you think about that? speaker-1: Maybe I speaker-0: I mean cookies and coffee. I'm I'm down with that. Do you think Miller, do you think you'll continue to speak as well? Do you think you're gonna wanna continue to talk to audiences about inclusion? speaker-1: Of course I'll continue to speak as well as offering that and I was just thinking about this. If the kid venture team in our local office warns some of that, I can deliver it. speaker-0: Sounds like a deal for sure. Miller, it's amazing for you to join me today. And we're not done yet, okay? Because I got this little surprise for you here in a second. But I do want to tell people that if you're raising a kid with disability, I hope what you heard today is that the story isn't finished being written, right? For Miller or for your kid or for any parent, I hope you heard something about what real inclusion looks like when a kid decides to build it himself. With nobody assigning it to him. So before we let Miller and Stephanie go, we've got one more thing we do every single episode, right? And it's this little rapid fire thing. Are you ready for this, Miller? speaker-1: Yeah. speaker-0: Okay. So I got here's the deal, Miller. I'm gonna put you on the spot a little bit. and we call it the campfire round. I ask you 10 questions, all right? And each one you got to give me like a short one-word answer, two-word answer, something like that. Okay. And it's gonna be kind of stuff we talked about today. All right, are you ready? speaker-1: Is that the surprise or is that speaker-0: that's the surprise. Are you ready? Number one. I'm gonna go easy on you in the first one, okay? What is one food miller that you don't wanna ever go without? speaker-1: So speaker-0: Any particular pizza miller is your favorite? speaker-1: yeah. speaker-0: All right. All right. Sounds good. Hey you know what I just heard the other day, we're getting a home slice here in in Houston. So a little bit of the ATX is coming to to Houston. We're excited about that. All right, number two, one word for how you felt walking up to speak that very first time. speaker-1: And so what gave me the courage to reach out? speaker-0: What is what did you feel that first time you stepped out on that stage? What's one word that would describe it to everybody? speaker-1: One word that would describe it to everybody was that it was daunting but speaker-0: Are you? I bet. All right. Daunting. We'll go with that. I love it. Number three. the regret from saying no that day, is it still there or is it gone? speaker-1: like from that year? speaker-0: Yeah, that third grade. Do you is it gone or do you still regret it? speaker-1: It's gone because since that year I've done a lot. You know, that year I was asked and I did not know what to expect. speaker-0: I know. Look, I I totally agree with that and I'd totally be expected. All right, number four. You ready for this one? What is your mom's superpower? speaker-1: I I can get her to come to the camera and answer. speaker-0: I don't want I don't want your mom to tell me your superpower. I want you I want to know from you what you think your mom's superpower is. What is your sir your mom's superpower? speaker-1: Getting me to say yes to things because I speaker-0: Is this happen lot to her trying to get you to say yes to stuff? speaker-1: It it it does. Have you had that I have you personally had that experience? speaker-0: yeah. yeah. Yeah. Moms are moms are moms are really good at at at at getting their sons to to do what they want to do. For sure. There's no doubt about that. They're that that is a superpower I think just mo about most moms have, right? speaker-1: I am y yeah, I think it does and and kind of going with this, I remember a story where I was visiting you guys and I was in the water. You guys arranged for a specialty ramp to get installed in the earth for me to get up there. speaker-0: I did, yeah. I b w what do you mean I arranged I built that thing I think if I remember correctly. I built that ramp for you to get up there. speaker-1: I want you to speaker-0: what you weren't gonna stay in the front yard, dude. No way. speaker-1: Mm Mm mmm mmm Yes you did and going back to the mom thing, I think that was Peggy. I think she urged you and she was speaker-0: I see. I see how this goes around, right? Yeah. hey, let me tell you something right now. I would have built you the ramp if if Peggy didn't say anything to me, okay? So don't lay that on Peggy, okay? All right. Another question. Are you ready? Clear your mind. Here we go. What is one thing that we you would say to a kid who is struggling with his or her disability? What's one thing you would say to them, Miller? speaker-1: just don't worry about it and try to do your best to ignore it because I know some disabilities might cause you some problems but but and mine did cause me some problems. But but but other disabilities shouldn't and I think that they just shouldn't. You may have to do something special when you're when you're going out because of your disability, but don't don't let that stop you. That's what I would say. speaker-0: Okay. I love that by the way. when you're speaking this is your next question, all right. When you're speaking to an audience and you're talking about all the things you like to talk about, what is the feeling that you have? Describe that feeling for me. speaker-1: I have an excited feeling and I love reaching out to campuses. You probably don't have a g a campus story where you've gone to campuses and talked about that. But I have several. And I every time I email a campus just for that, it prompts me To do it again. speaker-0: Yeah. I see that. All right. Next question. The Good Samaritan Award. How proud were you for receiving that award? speaker-1: Well that year speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: Wow Well, that was this year and I wasn't expecting it. And and as I mentioned on the podcast, when I got that email, I thought it was spam. I decided to to read it and it really was. speaker-0: Read. Number eight. Are you ready? I love this one. If you and I, just me and you, could go on a vacation anywhere, where would we go? speaker-1: Probably to England because we would meet a lot of people in England and maybe I am probably Mo Ranch in Hunt, Texas. I speaker-0: That's a cool place. Yeah. speaker-1: am I am because I've actually been there and I know that you guys host something there, but they also do choir re choir retreats there for Westlake. and I went one year and I didn't want to stay the whole time. But shout out to our choir director. He he encouraged me to stay the whole time and did. speaker-0: There you go. Good job. All right, number nine, one word for what you'd tell a kid who just said no to something scary. speaker-1: Try try it. speaker-0: All right. And then last question is ten. If your whole story were one word on a plaque, if your whole life, your whole story was one word on a plaque, what would it say? speaker-1: Advocacy r there's two actually. speaker-0: Do it. Go ahead. Give give me two. speaker-1: advocacy and news because I think that not a lot of people know about my story and who knows maybe in the future I might be on the news and like coming on this show was very different for me 'cause I've never done it before, but I did it. So yeah, one word would probably be publicity or maybe news. speaker-0: Miller, that was amazing. Nice job. You totally crushed the ten rapid fire questions. Thanks for being on the podcast, man. How how'd you feel about that? speaker-1: I am it was amazing and all for future guests. Like, how many episodes have you bought coming up? I know you bought one with this entrepreneur and one with the children's book author. speaker-0: We have we have several podcasts coming up, but I don't think any will compare to the Miller Peoples podcast, dude. Thank you so much for being on this thing with me. and Stephanie, thank you too for being a part of this and and being here with us. We I really appreciate you helping put this together too as well. speaker-1: Yeah, thanks for having us. And also one more thing before we say goodbye, we've done the episode. Right. But when will it be available? speaker-0: Somewhere around October fifteenth, but I'll be sure and I'll let you know when when when it's gonna air, okay? speaker-1: I am yeah, and send the episode to me and I'll look out for future ones. speaker-0: Okay. That's a deal. That's a deal. I appreciate it. Thank you very much, Miller. Thank you very much, Stephanie. I'm Mike McDonald. This is Campfire Guide to Parenting. I appreciate you being with us around the campfire and I'll see you next time.