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- 0:03Speaker 1: From The Australian. Here's what's on the front. I'm Claire Harvey.
- 0:06Speaker 1: It's Monday, June twenty two to twenty twenty six. Auction
- 0:12Speaker 1: clearance rates are at pandemic level lows, prompting fresh calls
- 0:16Speaker 1: for the government to rethink its tax overhaul yet again.
- 0:20Speaker 1: Just forty seven percent of homes at auction are selling
- 0:24Speaker 1: in the Capital Cities and in Brisbane it's down to
- 0:27Speaker 1: thirty three percent.
- 0:30Speaker 2: Monday is Media.
- 0:32Speaker 1: Day at The Australian and that means all the biggest
- 0:34Speaker 1: yarns in entertainment, showbiz and journalism are live right now
- 0:38Speaker 1: at the Australian dot com dot au. This week there's
- 0:42Speaker 1: a fresh drama about the chair of the Walkley Judging Board,
- 0:45Speaker 1: and in Steve Jackson's media diary, a pretty confronting moment
- 0:49Speaker 1: for some household names who are about to take a
- 0:52Speaker 1: big pay cut. The big money days are gone in media,
- 0:55Speaker 1: but someone still has to tell the big money stars.
- 1:00Speaker 1: Our TV newsrooms is in danger of disappearing all together,
- 1:04Speaker 1: with huge implications for the way Australians consume news. Steve
- 1:08Speaker 1: Jackson is here in just a moment. Steve Jackson is
- 1:16Speaker 1: the Australian's Media Diary columnist and JACKO. It's rare to
- 1:20Speaker 1: feel grateful that you don't earn more than a million dollars,
- 1:22Speaker 1: But I feel like the days of big money in
- 1:24Speaker 1: media might be over.
- 1:25Speaker 2: You're breaking a yarn about this today. What's happening?
- 1:27Speaker 3: Well, very interesting you ask, as you say, very rare
- 1:30Speaker 3: that you feel happy not to have a million dollars,
- 1:32Speaker 3: But then you also don't have a target on your back.
- 1:34Speaker 3: What we're about to see is the biggest names in
- 1:36Speaker 3: radio in the firing line. The more you're on, the
- 1:39Speaker 3: more you're going to feel it. And Claire, I'm going
- 1:40Speaker 3: to be honest with you, it's going to be painful.
- 1:43Speaker 3: What we're seeing is, and we've talked about this before,
- 1:46Speaker 3: Tapped Media has these new billionaire pub barons. I've taken
- 1:49Speaker 3: over and they've gone out and told everyone not it
- 1:52Speaker 3: going to be any changes. We're happy with everyone. There's
- 1:54Speaker 3: photos of them cheering in the pub and hey, which
- 1:57Speaker 3: were their pubs?
- 1:58Speaker 2: Hey come down vertical integration, Yeah.
- 2:01Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's great and everyone's going to be the
- 2:04Speaker 3: land of milk and honey and a couple of skiwies
- 2:06Speaker 3: and just even a month on all that's changed already
- 2:09Speaker 3: we're hearing behind the scenes there are cuts. They've cut
- 2:12Speaker 3: a weekend show in Sydney. And now what I'm hearing
- 2:15Speaker 3: is as talent is being resigned and we're talking their
- 2:17Speaker 3: top tier talent, Russell Helcroft, he's just resigned his contract now.
- 2:22Speaker 3: As we've discussed previously on the show, those contracts have
- 2:25Speaker 3: been funded in part by nine Radio and topped up
- 2:29Speaker 3: by nine to Television arm because it's all the one company.
- 2:32Speaker 3: It will take some money from TV now that they're
- 2:35Speaker 3: looking at resigning people. They go, hey, Russell, great, we
- 2:38Speaker 3: love to have you back. Here's the part that was
- 2:40Speaker 3: paid by nine Radio now tapped and he said, well,
- 2:42Speaker 3: where's the TV part. We're not part of nine TV anymore,
- 2:45Speaker 3: so you'll take assuming the whole contract. No, no, we're
- 2:49Speaker 3: just going to pay the radio part.
- 2:51Speaker 2: Fair enough.
- 2:51Speaker 3: So well, yeah, fair enough unless you're one of the
- 2:55Speaker 3: people with you know, the million dollar paycheck and as
- 2:57Speaker 3: I say, mo money, more problems.
- 3:00Speaker 1: People got mortgages to pay.
- 3:02Speaker 2: They got mortgages.
- 3:04Speaker 3: So you know, the more you earn, the more you
- 3:06Speaker 3: somehow fine that you need to survive.
- 3:09Speaker 1: And as the golden handcuffs you get yourself into a
- 3:12Speaker 1: very nice house in a very expensive sub off, your
- 3:14Speaker 1: kids are in a very expensive school. Maybe your wife
- 3:16Speaker 1: has stopped working. Well, you know, I'm sorry, guys. We
- 3:19Speaker 1: welcome back to the real world.
- 3:20Speaker 3: Look look I do cry for them with such problems,
- 3:24Speaker 3: you know, but we're going to see this happening with
- 3:27Speaker 3: more and see. Russell's a great case and point. He's
- 3:29Speaker 3: just resigned his contract. He's not a nobody. He is
- 3:32Speaker 3: part of the top rating breakfast team at three a
- 3:35Speaker 3: w probably it's best performing show.
- 3:39Speaker 2: Minutes before six on a Monday morning. Good morning to
- 3:41Speaker 2: you as here we go. I went down to the
- 3:43Speaker 2: Bush on the weekend, which.
- 3:45Speaker 3: It gets you know, one in five listeners in Melbourne.
- 3:48Speaker 3: It is a powerhouse, probably their most profitable show. And
- 3:52Speaker 3: even he can't keep his paycheck. So this is in
- 3:54Speaker 3: real terms, he's taken a massive paker.
- 3:56Speaker 1: We know.
- 3:57Speaker 3: Ben Fordham's contract is up for Red Neal.
- 4:00Speaker 2: Happy Friday, June nineteenth. Thank you very much for tuning in.
- 4:03Speaker 3: Coming up, he's going to get the same thing. He's
- 4:05Speaker 3: going to cop what I'm told. He's a half million
- 4:08Speaker 3: dollar pay cut and that's you know again, he's got
- 4:11Speaker 3: his expenses or whatever. That is hard to swallow. It's
- 4:14Speaker 3: a bit of pill to swallow. The problem is you
- 4:16Speaker 3: look around and go, where's the competing offers, where's the
- 4:20Speaker 3: and so it really is a market value system now
- 4:24Speaker 3: and this is what the lawndies very much from the school, right. Well,
- 4:28Speaker 3: if you want this X amount of money, show us
- 4:30Speaker 3: where the rival offer is, you go get usap rather
- 4:32Speaker 3: offer in writing please, then we can talk. But if
- 4:35Speaker 3: it's just you know, I'd really like that extra half
- 4:38Speaker 3: a million, because it's very nice to have an extra
- 4:40Speaker 3: half a million, come down the pub and cry into
- 4:43Speaker 3: a beer over it.
- 4:43Speaker 1: Okay, Well, your bonus for a continuing to appear on
- 4:46Speaker 1: the front is I'll buy you a cappuccino once a
- 4:47Speaker 1: week and that's it.
- 4:48Speaker 3: Ohez. Yeah, can we stretch it.
- 4:56Speaker 1: One of the most stunningly talented I think women in
- 4:59Speaker 1: Australian Sonya Krueger. She's sixty years old, which is hard
- 5:03Speaker 1: to believe, and she started out as Tina Sparkle, the
- 5:06Speaker 1: character in the beloved Basloman movie Streetly Ballroom.
- 5:10Speaker 3: Oh who would have thought today Alice Scott dancing with
- 5:14Speaker 3: someone like Tina Sparkle. Yes, the very Princess of the
- 5:18Speaker 3: Dance Woman.
- 5:20Speaker 2: What's happening to Sonya Krueger now.
- 5:22Speaker 3: Jacko, Well, Sonia's going global. So what I found out
- 5:26Speaker 3: is she's recently cut a show reel of everything she's
- 5:30Speaker 3: done in the industry so that she can entice well
- 5:33Speaker 3: her agents can entice global offers for us. So she's
- 5:37Speaker 3: had years of hosting pretty much everything that has been
- 5:40Speaker 3: on seven, whether it be from Dancing with the Stars,
- 5:44Speaker 3: the Voice that Mini put Putt game show Holy Molly
- 5:47Speaker 3: that somehow made its way onto television. After years of that,
- 5:50Speaker 3: she's now branching out and saying, hey, I've done Australia,
- 5:54Speaker 3: not much else I can do here. I'm going to
- 5:56Speaker 3: go international. So I hear she's cut a show reel,
- 5:59Speaker 3: a real shows how good she is and with a
- 6:02Speaker 3: view of, you know, maybe looking at gigs in UK
- 6:05Speaker 3: emulating the success of Kylie and Danny Minogue there. Obviously,
- 6:09Speaker 3: Danny has been a long time host on game shows
- 6:12Speaker 3: over there, similar to The Voice or potentially the US.
- 6:16Speaker 3: So while some people might think that maybe she's in
- 6:19Speaker 3: the latter stages of her career, age is just a number, Claire,
- 6:23Speaker 3: And as you say, she doesn't look like she's aged
- 6:26Speaker 3: today and we might see her moving further afield. Of course,
- 6:30Speaker 3: it comes as there's belt tightening at seven. Her latest
- 6:34Speaker 3: incarnation of the Voice at seven doesn't go to wear
- 6:36Speaker 3: until later this year after the Commonwealth Games. I hear
- 6:39Speaker 3: it's very good, as of revealed previously special sort of
- 6:42Speaker 3: cameo role by Tones and Eye, and then that's supposed
- 6:45Speaker 3: to be absolutely amazing, so it is going to be
- 6:48Speaker 3: a great season of that show. I hear hasn't been
- 6:51Speaker 3: renewed yet for next year, and I hear that they're
- 6:54Speaker 3: going to wait to see how the financial year budgets go,
- 6:57Speaker 3: so that might be shelved. We know that Dancing with
- 7:00Speaker 3: the Stars has already been put on ice rested. The
- 7:03Speaker 3: thing about when you rest shows, they rarely wake up again.
- 7:07Speaker 3: And holy moly, obviously that one's already been hit for
- 7:10Speaker 3: you know four and sailed over the fairways, so we
- 7:13Speaker 3: won't see that one again. So it comes as there's
- 7:16Speaker 3: less for her to do it at seven. She's famously
- 7:19Speaker 3: reputed to be on a very lucrative seven figure contract
- 7:23Speaker 3: somewhere in the early millions, so whether there will be
- 7:26Speaker 3: anything for her to do at seven that will warrant
- 7:29Speaker 3: her contract which is about just over three years in,
- 7:32Speaker 3: so I imagine it's still got a year to run
- 7:36Speaker 3: on it. Whether there's going to be enough for her
- 7:37Speaker 3: to do is going to be the question mark.
- 7:39Speaker 1: We've talked before on the front about how the networks
- 7:42Speaker 1: kind of pay stars these huge salaries as a way
- 7:45Speaker 1: of stopping the competition from coming and getting them. But
- 7:48Speaker 1: in these straightened economic times and everyone's struggling with advertising revenue,
- 7:53Speaker 1: is there any risk that a nine or ten is
- 7:55Speaker 1: going to come and gets on your Kruger? You know,
- 7:57Speaker 1: how can they justify paying her a million dollars plus?
- 8:00Speaker 3: It's interesting you say that because Sonya is one of
- 8:02Speaker 3: those people who is so well like that she has
- 8:05Speaker 3: played the ping pong between the networks, so she is
- 8:07Speaker 3: someone who is in demand. Whether or not that still
- 8:10Speaker 3: exists now, I wouldn't have thought so. At nine. We
- 8:14Speaker 3: know from you know, hopefully reading the Diary this year, Claire,
- 8:17Speaker 3: that they're still struggling to find out what can we
- 8:20Speaker 3: do with Sam Armitage, what can we do with Tracy Grimshaw?
- 8:23Speaker 3: You know, what can we do with all the people
- 8:25Speaker 3: we've currently got on the books to justify their salary?
- 8:28Speaker 3: So yeah, that era of stealing her for a special
- 8:32Speaker 3: projects that is probably gone and we're seeing fewer and fewer,
- 8:36Speaker 3: and I think into the future will continue to see
- 8:39Speaker 3: fewer of these big budget reality shows as all the
- 8:42Speaker 3: networks tighten their belts or as all the networks try
- 8:45Speaker 3: to cut costs. The other question Market seven is going
- 8:47Speaker 3: to be doctor Chris Brown, who again is in that
- 8:50Speaker 3: remit of oh, we've paid this guy a lot of money,
- 8:52Speaker 3: what are we getting to do now? Our lo and
- 8:54Speaker 3: behold he's popping up occasionally on the Morning show because
- 8:57Speaker 3: that's them trying to justify we're paying this cash. What
- 9:01Speaker 3: can we get them to do? And unfortunately there's just
- 9:03Speaker 3: fewer opportunities. Now.
- 9:04Speaker 2: It's the end of the star, isn't it.
- 9:06Speaker 1: I mean, once upon a time there were probably ten
- 9:08Speaker 1: stars on Australian television who were the show.
- 9:11Speaker 2: Ray Martin was a current Affair.
- 9:14Speaker 3: From Government House in Brisbane, A very special edition of
- 9:17Speaker 3: a Current Affair relaxed and candidates you've never seen before,
- 9:21Speaker 3: A conversation with Prince Charles.
- 9:23Speaker 1: George Nigus was the face of Channel ten Goday, Welcome
- 9:27Speaker 1: to the very first six PM. Well, I've seen the
- 9:30Speaker 1: billboards and whatever else there certainly be. But the real
- 9:33Speaker 1: point is I'm thrilled to be part of what is
- 9:35Speaker 1: it those kinds of formats. That's the Carl Sandalans Show,
- 9:38Speaker 1: That's the Carl Stefanovic Show. It's like, I think, if
- 9:41Speaker 1: you want to be that kind of person, you're now
- 9:43Speaker 1: doing a podcast. You know, you're not necessarily anchoring a
- 9:46Speaker 1: primetime show. The thing about primetime news is that it's very,
- 9:50Speaker 1: very expensive. And that's what Channel ten is discovering right now,
- 9:53Speaker 1: isn't it.
- 9:53Speaker 3: Ah Yes, super expensive. And look, they've been making sly
- 9:56Speaker 3: cuts basically since the start of COVID. There their news
- 10:00Speaker 3: and current affair budget ten years ago one hundred and
- 10:03Speaker 3: ten million nationally. Today I'm here and it's already down
- 10:06Speaker 3: to thirty five to forty million, and hopefully they're thinking
- 10:09Speaker 3: we can get it down even further. How do you
- 10:11Speaker 3: do that? One way of making news and current affair
- 10:14Speaker 3: a chief but get rid of all the journals, right
- 10:16Speaker 3: and so, very very worryingly, this is something that they're
- 10:20Speaker 3: actively looking at at the moment, which is going to
- 10:22Speaker 3: have massive rabmnifications for our entire industry. But they're talking
- 10:26Speaker 3: as they have been. These have been intimate conversations for
- 10:29Speaker 3: five six years. They're talking to the other commercial networks
- 10:33Speaker 3: and some other players about, hey, can we get you
- 10:35Speaker 3: to basically give us our news for us and just
- 10:38Speaker 3: outsource that entirely.
- 10:40Speaker 1: That would be the first disappearance of a major commercial
- 10:43Speaker 1: news broadcast news outlet. I mean, for Channel ten to
- 10:46Speaker 1: stop doing news the place where George Nigas you know,
- 10:49Speaker 1: our own Paul Kelly, various other kind of luminaries of television.
- 10:53Speaker 3: And Carl Stefanobe have made their home.
- 10:55Speaker 2: I think it would be really really sad.
- 10:57Speaker 3: News is expensive, though, yeah it is, And it's one
- 11:02Speaker 3: of these things where when we stall the demise of
- 11:06Speaker 3: regional newsrooms and everyone like to talk about where they
- 11:10Speaker 3: started out. And for many years ten has also been
- 11:15Speaker 3: as much as they play as hard as they can
- 11:17Speaker 3: in the news field, they've also been a great training
- 11:20Speaker 3: ground for journals that have then gone on to bigger things.
- 11:24Speaker 3: Quite honestly, if nine sees someone on ten, they snap
- 11:27Speaker 3: them up. So there's great tradition of them people who've
- 11:30Speaker 3: carved out their careers there, but also people who've worked
- 11:33Speaker 3: there and then gone on to be part of the
- 11:36Speaker 3: star factory that nine's had.
- 11:38Speaker 1: Ten seems to have set itself up as the bridesmaid, though, Like,
- 11:40Speaker 1: why is there bulletin still on at five pm? I
- 11:43Speaker 1: mean nine and seven have made their six pm bulletins
- 11:46Speaker 1: the battleground. ABC's persisted with seven pm, Ten's persisted with
- 11:50Speaker 1: five pm. I mean, is it just that it's too
- 11:52Speaker 1: hard to break into six pm?
- 11:53Speaker 2: Now?
- 11:54Speaker 3: Well, it is extremely hard, and I have tried that
- 11:56Speaker 3: with ten News Plus, which has been diabolically bad for
- 11:59Speaker 3: a number of ree since, one of which you've been
- 12:01Speaker 3: very unkind to, one of which it's not their fault, right.
- 12:05Speaker 3: One of the problems they've had on ten News Plus
- 12:07Speaker 3: is that it was budgeted for half an hour, but
- 12:10Speaker 3: from the outset they stretched it out to an hour.
- 12:13Speaker 3: So it was never budgeted to be an hour long show.
- 12:16Speaker 3: And they were trying to fill an hour long show
- 12:19Speaker 3: with budget for half an hour. What chance did they have?
- 12:22Speaker 3: So we've seen that disaster. Initially, Ten had a great model.
- 12:26Speaker 3: They'd go to all the advertisers, Hey, we're not playing
- 12:29Speaker 3: in that space because we're not trying to hit the
- 12:31Speaker 3: over forties, et cetera. We want the young people. We're
- 12:34Speaker 3: getting in at five they've come home. You know you
- 12:37Speaker 3: can have it with all the families that have dinner
- 12:39Speaker 3: at about five you and watch the news, and then
- 12:41Speaker 3: we're into the Simpsons and through to you know, initially
- 12:45Speaker 3: Big Brother when it first started, and they had all
- 12:46Speaker 3: these youth orientated shows, and then the programs they were
- 12:50Speaker 3: getting from the US, and then they had you know,
- 12:52Speaker 3: Master Chef and that was great, and they had a
- 12:54Speaker 3: market that young market does not watch free to air
- 12:57Speaker 3: television anymore.
- 12:58Speaker 1: They had the project, which you've memorably described in almost
- 13:02Speaker 1: every column as a work nightly gibifest one of my
- 13:04Speaker 1: favorite phrases.
- 13:05Speaker 3: I've got that as a hot key.
- 13:06Speaker 1: Did the project kind of mask the decline of news
- 13:09Speaker 1: at ten because they were investing in this kind of
- 13:12Speaker 1: flagship and trying to keep making that work.
- 13:14Speaker 3: It's quite interesting because what the project did really well
- 13:18Speaker 3: was loved or hate it. The fact is a lot
- 13:21Speaker 3: of us didn't even ever watch it, but we had
- 13:23Speaker 3: feelings about it and felt we were reading about it
- 13:25Speaker 3: every day and what has Wali Dahali said or what
- 13:28Speaker 3: has Sarah Harris said it? So it felt even if
- 13:31Speaker 3: you weren't watching it, you were aware of it, and
- 13:33Speaker 3: you knew about it, and you knew who the hosts were,
- 13:35Speaker 3: and if you're working in sales, you can sell that.
- 13:37Speaker 3: You go, hey, everyone's talking about this, you know this
- 13:39Speaker 3: show where you go out now and the sales team
- 13:42Speaker 3: are trying to go, hey, you know this show with
- 13:44Speaker 3: Denim Hitchcock and Amelia Brace that no one's talking about
- 13:47Speaker 3: and no one watches. How are you going to sell that?
- 13:49Speaker 3: And you go, oh, what is it?
- 13:50Speaker 1: Oh?
- 13:50Speaker 3: It's like the project, but not very good. The problem
- 13:53Speaker 3: with the project was it was good as done by
- 13:55Speaker 3: Roth mcmanister's production company. The problem was it was too expensive.
- 13:58Speaker 3: But again that showed ten already outsourcing. They've brought ten
- 14:03Speaker 3: years plus back in house, presumably because they couldn't get
- 14:06Speaker 3: anyone to do it for the price they wanted it
- 14:08Speaker 3: to be done for. But now they're going to let's
- 14:10Speaker 3: get rid of all of that. Will pay a production
- 14:12Speaker 3: company or will pay another channel. Basically, they'll go out
- 14:16Speaker 3: a reporter, you know, here, I am live on the scene.
- 14:19Speaker 3: Behind me, blah blah blah, there's you know, it's going
- 14:21Speaker 3: to flood in six weeks or whatever. They're going to
- 14:23Speaker 3: change the baffle.
- 14:24Speaker 2: Is that what it's called the flag?
- 14:26Speaker 3: The flag they'll just change put a ten one on,
- 14:28Speaker 3: maybe do a different eyeline and yeah, here behind me
- 14:30Speaker 3: and just do it again. And because ten dozen national
- 14:34Speaker 3: news bulletin, what they're going to do is they'll take
- 14:36Speaker 3: the non exclusive stories from around the country I imagine.
- 14:41Speaker 3: So it's just going to be like, hear the stories.
- 14:43Speaker 3: No one's really excited about filling out it now.
- 14:46Speaker 2: Yeah, aggregated news. Basically, it's the.
- 14:48Speaker 3: Death of the channel clear And then what's your sales
- 14:50Speaker 3: pitch on that? He's he's just some stuff.
- 14:56Speaker 2: Thanks Jacket, Thanks Claire.
- 14:57Speaker 3: Thanks having met.
- 15:03Speaker 1: Steve Jackson edits The Australian's media diary. You can read
- 15:06Speaker 1: it right now at the Australian dot com dot au
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