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• JusticeFor: We are just as shocked as all of you are about Letitia Stout's conviction being reversed and heading for a retrial. So we're going to break it all down for you today. What happened and what's going to happen next? Welcome back to Justice Four. We're your host. I'm Jackie. And I'm Sam. I'm not shocked. I'm fucking pissed. I am so mad. Well, I'm so mad. Yeah, I never thought that we would be here. I knew she had appeals and it's how the justice system works, but I never imagined her winning an appeal and getting her conviction overturned. No. Fortunately, though, it had nothing to do with evidence. So the outcome will likely be the same with a new trial. I know you're probably going go over this later, but she's sticking with that insanity plea, ⁓ yeah. Yeah. Well, we're going to talk about that. So Before we get into everything, little shameless plug here first. You know how we are. ⁓ We are two days away from our live show at Voodoo. Yeah, we are. We are so excited to see all of you. ⁓ I think we managed to open up some more tickets last week. We did. And we only have four left of those. Like, we managed to open up seven. I mean, if they're still there. If they're still there by now, go check. Tickets aren't required. We just have some VIP seats that are reserved. Come with some really cool gifts, by the way. I just surprised him with some today that she had no idea about. They're wicked cool. So we are really excited for you guys to come out. You don't have to buy a ticket. It is open to the public. Show starts at six. I would suggest getting there a little bit early to grab your seat and to get your food going. We're hoping it actually starts at six. We're gonna really try to plan on it to actually start about six, six, 15. So make sure you're there and in your seat. Yeah. As always, go follow us at Justiceforpodcast.com. Yeah, go follow us at Justice for podcasts. can also go to justice for podcasts.com. didn't even catch that. Do case submissions, buy tickets for the love event. You can find merch on there. You find all of our episodes, pictures, sources for all of our episodes. with our episodes, you can find every single platform that we're on as well. Spotify, Apple, YouTube. I'm pretty sure we got iHeartRadio back at that. Yeah, we have iHeartRadio. have we're everywhere, man. And then like we have some that pop up that we didn't even know we were on. ⁓ yeah. Yeah. So we're just everywhere. Make sure you're liking following so you never miss anything. Season three is about to start here in a few weeks. It's coming. So yeah. We we're going to tell you guys now we have one more episode for April and then we're taking the last week of April off. So you will not have an episode that week ⁓ for our mental health insanity. We need to chill the fuck out for a minute. So this year we were like, why did we take a month off before before season two last year? I feel like we should have done that. We know. just learned. We learned. We learned, guys. So unfortunately, we're not going to have that episode right for season three, but it is so incredibly worth it to It is. It is. is. And I was thinking about having an episode for my, like, for you guys. I can't. No, she was like nonstop bawling yesterday. Yeah. And so I was like, we're just going to put a pin in this and we've got it. Contrary to what you guys have seen, I'm not a crier. Yeah, I'm not I'm not a crier but for some reason When I'm here on camera, I cry. I don't know we do we just get in our feels we get in all the feels Yeah. Yeah. I'm a bad bitch. Don't tell anyone All right, shall we I'm so mad. I'm so mad Like just hold that ball of rage right here in your hand, dude, it's not a ball Like, it's not gonna fit in my, it's like a fucking yoga-sized ball of rage. I like that. A yoga-sized ball of rage. I am so mad. Like, if you guys have been on Facebook with us, we made a post about it on the day it happened. And you guys are also mad as well. And I love that you're mad. And I did, it took everything in my fucking power to not be like, ⁓ when are we rioting kind of like on certain comments or like respond with how I just I just liked him. And I was like, just leave it alone. Which, by the way, we got a huge response. ⁓ my God. On this, there are so many of you who are so upset by this. Rightfully so. This is shit. For those of you new to the podcast and to this case, January 27th, 2020 in Colorado Springs, Colorado, Leticia Stout reported her 11 year old stepson, Gannon South missing. What followed was an intense search for Gannon while Leticia changed her story every time she told it before eventually going MIA and turning up in South Carolina. Eventually Gannon's body was found in a suitcase under a bridge in Florida. Leticia was extradited back to Colorado, attacked an officer on the way. great video of it. Go watch our first episode, first two episodes if you want to see it. And eventually in May of 2023, she was convicted of murdering Gannon and she was sentenced to life without the possibility of We actually started this podcast because of Gannon. Our logo is a blue heart because that's how the community showed support for Gannon while he was missing because blue was his favorite color. Gannon also loves Sonic and Mario. Both of which he loved playing on a Switch. This was the first trial that we listened to every minute of in real time, and Ganon has an extremely special place in our hearts. Yes, he does. That's why we have always had a Sonic sitting on our set the whole time, because that's his favorite. I don't think there's been a single episode that we don't have Sonic in. Nope. From the fucking get, we've had we made sure we had- now our Sonic has changed. Our original Sonic is sitting right over there, actually. He's- Yes. He is, he's here. Yeah, we had a giant sonic at first, but then because of another case we had to add a little Minnie Mouse That would be Harmony Montgomery Definitely check out hers as well. Absolutely, but Ganon is Genuinely genuinely the heart and soul of this podcast. He is we started this because when his trial was going on and everything everything was focused on Letitia Yeah, everything was focused on the fuck that everything had her face everything had her name and that's that's not what we wanted. No The perpetrators name should never be upfront their picture should never be upfront That's why our episodes are always our victims name only Yep, justice for and then our victims name because it's about them. Yes So we started this to give victims a voice to talk about victims to call our perpetrators like Letitia as we called in her first episode aka dumb bitch. She's a fucking Yes a word that starts with a C that I'm not gonna say out loud. See you next Tuesday Leticia So clearly we're extremely passionate about this as well and I know all of y'all are too Normally, this would be a bonus update episode correct or this would go out in a short on YouTube, but We couldn't do that. We almost did we almost done but we couldn't do that because this is important Yeah, this is big. This is this isn't just any appeal. This is this is a new trial for somebody who does not deserve one. So we're done ranting for now. I make no promises. Leticia filed an appeal in 2023, not long after her conviction, which is pretty normal. Yep. Her appeal stated that the judge should have dismissed a juror who showed bias because his son-in-law worked as a deputy district attorney in the same office as district attorney Michael Allen, who was trying the case. This juror ended up deliberating. Even though the appeal was filed in 2023, wouldn't be until the end of January 2026, so just a few months ago, that oral arguments were finally heard. Up until this point, All the arguments were submitted in writing. Side note, Leticia was not present for this January hearing and the defense and the state got 15 minutes each. Like I said earlier, the ruling on reversing her conviction is not related to any evidence, even though there is mention of the court allowing in certain evidence, like the entire contents of her phone saying the search warrant for it was too broad and shouldn't have been granted. And she even had an issue with some of Al's testimony being allowed in. But in the end, the appellate court denied those parts of the appeal. ⁓ The phone, just to go into a little bit about the phone. basically when you have a search warrant for a phone, has to be a specific time period. So think Corey Richen's phone. We were going back to a certain date until you have more evidence to open up that timeline. So they were arguing that the search warrant was too broad. And so therefore it never should have been used on her phone and that between that and Al's testimony, they made a pattern of her behavior that they shouldn't have been allowed to. Okay. But she still had a pattern of behavior though. The appellate court pointed out that, or not the appellate court, the prosecution pointed out that That search warrant paired with the affidavit equals them being legally within their realm to take everything in the So, we don't have to worry about any evidence issues, which means we will most likely have to sit through the exact same five weeks of trial all over again. I'm excited except for having to listen to all them damn fucking phone calls again. Let Sam rant about Dr. Lewis and the recorded phone calls. I forgot about the fucking doctor too. But, ⁓ my god. But hold on, on the note about the doctor, yeah. Actually, we'll get into that later. I promise. We'll get into that later. Okay. So let's get into the whole juror thing and what exactly happened during jury selection that got us here. Okay. Just a few things before we begin. There were three people making this decision. They ruled in a two to one favor to overturn her conviction. A 54 page document was released that detailed the hearing and the decision. And of course we're going to have it linked below. Honestly, once again, we have learned why Jackie's not a lawyer. Hmm. Uh-huh. ⁓ my god. ⁓ My god, there was so much legal jargon in these 54 pages. I had to google things I had to listen to things from lawyers to understand what we were talking about I was I read I read this 54 page document three times guys. I was so confused But there's also like a good like five to ten pages. That is just like citing court cases. But it took me halfway reading through that to realize that's what was happening. I was like, has nothing to do with the case. Okay, I am going to read straight from that for some parts of this, but I promise the parts I'm reading are digestible. Excited to have her read those as part of jury selection jurors completed a questionnaire that included a question about whether they had friends or relatives in law enforcement perspective juror MB That's the initials that they used for him in the hearing. So juror MB Indicated that his son-in-law worked with the El Paso County District's attorney during follow-up questioning juror MB confirmed that his son-in-law worked as a deputy district attorney in the same office as and for Michael Allen the electric district attorney in opasso county and prosecuting attorney in this case. Defense counsel later identified juror and be among the prospective jurors. wish to challenge for cause when the court asked for more detail. Defense counsel explained his son-in-law works for mr. The prosecutor in the court made the following comments prosecutor. I hate to agree with defense counsel, but follow-up questions were never asked. How's that's going to it? How? ⁓ that's going to impact his ability to be fair in an impartial juror. And what certainly doesn't rise to the level of statutory cause. So we would object to him being released for cause. The judge said, yeah, I'm going to circle back to that one. Probably what I'm going to do is not excuse your envy at this point in time and think about it over the weekend and see where we are. I tend to agree that I don't think that it's a statutory cause, and I didn't hear anything else about the fact creating an issue or conflict or something else. I don't run across these sets of facts very often, so I just need to think about that one. And it may be that I decide it next week. The prosecutor then suggested that the court ask further questions of Jura and B, and the court agreed. Defense counsel objected. I think the record is what it is. And I guess the only thing I think that there is, you know, a difference between somebody saying, have a son or daughter who works at the police, rather than I have a son-in-law who works for the DA, who is actually trying the case. And so I think that's where it becomes different. Even if it was a different district attorney, other than his son-in-law's direct boss who was trying the case, I think it would be different and I'll leave it on that. So, essentially, the judge and the prosecutor are like, yeah, I see the relation here, but I don't really see this as just cause to remove him. Like, he's only biased from this. Not biased because he knows about the case. Yeah. I can see both sides of it. ⁓ we have a law. Hold on. The trial court then brought... The prospective jurors back into the room and asked for juror MB how long his son-in-law worked for the district attorney, whether juror MB had discussed the case with his son-in-law, and whether juror MB might be influenced by a desire to have the case work out better for his son-in-law. Based on his answers, the court instructed juror MB to return the next day, and he was not dismissed. The Attorney General is one of the people determining the appeal. He's one of those three people. So I'm going to be referencing him as the Attorney General. The Attorney General responded with, Jurren B did not deliberate. So none of this actually matters. thought he did deliberate. Defense counsel then brought it to his attention that Jurren B did in fact deliberate. Yeah. Which gave the court no choice but to continue on. Because the Attorney General was like, this isn't even an appeal. Mm-hmm. To which the Attorney General hit them with. Leticia had her opportunity to exercise her right to use a peremptory strike to remove juror and be after the challenge for cause was rejected. hmm. They saw this as this is our chance to appeal and win it though. But you can't do it like that. Mm hmm. So let me explain before we get into more of this argument. Something I've just learned. So during jury selection, the defense can remove potential jurors in two manners. One is by challenging cause, which means they have legal cause to have them removed, which the defense did according to the law. Juror MB was related within the third degree, so he has to automatically be removed no matter what. It doesn't matter if he can present a bias, he automatically is biased by Colorado statute. Got it. And the judge did not do this. Now. They I want to buy now. I want to point out really quick though in Trial they did remove another juror because she recognized a witness. Yes. Here's the thing though If he would have been an alternate juror We wouldn't be talking about this. Mm-hmm He was fine to sit on the jury. Mm-hmm But since he deliberated this is where it's fucked up. Mm-hmm So there is also peremptory strikes. The defense gets 16 of these to use. Now I have heard 12 and I've heard 16, but I'm almost positive it's 16 in this one because it so fuzzy with my Googling. They can use this to remove a juror without denial. Like they cannot be denied that they can just use it and remove the juror. Which the defense used all 16 on other jurors that they did not want to deliberate and be in the trial. Okay. So now that you have those terms down, let's get into this a little bit, a little back and forth. So the attorney general is like, nope, the defense did this on purpose so that they could have an appeal and get the conviction overturned, stating they had 16 chances to remove the juror anyway. Yep. The defense fired back saying that it wasn't on them to use their, their peremptory strikes for a juror that should have been thrown out on cause due to statute law in Colorado. The attorney general is like, You waived your right to do this when you let the challenge go and didn't use your peremptory strike. Adding that no case law was cited and it wasn't clear what specifically the defense was saying the cause was. Because the defense never cited any case law at that moment. Now they're citing a buttload in this. Of course. Then there was lot of citing cases and case law that made me want to smash my head through a wall. And that's where we learned that I would have failed law school completely. Some people just aren't meant to be lawyers. I was also watching Legally Blonde after, like, towards the end of writing this and finishing it, and it was really great. Unfortunately, the attorney general lost his good fight and was overruled two to one and Leticia's conviction was overturned all due to an error by the judge before trial even began. guess the other thing that could have prevented this would the judge could have made him an alternate during jury select like for deliberating if he would have made him an alternate none of this would have happened. That's all I had to do. Yeah. Now, this doesn't mean that Letitia is going to be released and free. Correct. honestly, there hasn't been much released on what will happen next, but there is a chance that she will be transferred to a jail instead of prison until her new trial. In that case, I hope for CJC. I know some of y'all would love to go for a weekend vacation. I'm... ⁓ there was a lot of comments about vigilante justice that I've been seeing on social media, so I think it'd be entertaining for her to go to CJC. Just kidding, just kidding, just kidding guys. Yeah, we're totally kidding. There is always the possibility that her attorneys will ask for bail or bond. I don't know which one that would be called in this case right now. I don't know if we'd be putting up a bond amount or a bail amount. Are those the same things in interchangeable words? I don't know which one applies here. I think at this point it would be bond. Yeah. I'm pretty sure it would be Bond at this point because technically with an overturn, she is not convicted of anything. Yeah, she's just arrested and charged. I know, Sam, we talked about this a little bit and you brought up that she's a hell of a flight risk. Hell yeah, she is. So she literally ran to the other side of the country and attacked an officer. So like, I don't know the chances of that being granted, but I mean, if Barry Morphew and his eight aliases can get out on Bond. I'm sure Letitia and her eight personalities may have a chance. You enjoyed writing that, didn't you? I really did. It was a great time for me. I saw your face as you said it. Yeah, that was a really fun line for me and I really loved writing it. Yeah, that was a good one. I don't know, man. I really don't... Maybe I shouldn't say this all out, but I don't think that they would grant her bail. they already got it? He was never charged and convicted though. Correct. This is a very, he also did an attack on officer and flee to multiple different states. Yes, he's in Arizona. It doesn't count. He did not hide a body across state lines. He did hide a body across county lines. County is different than state. I know. It's literally across the country. I know. So I'm not even going to compare this to Barrymore. ⁓ no, I know. That was just a really funny thing. I know, I know. But I think because... But also like, I mean, you kind of have to because it is still Colorado courts and none of us thought that he would actually be granted a bail amount. That's fair. That's fair. I'm saying though, like I don't personally believe that she will be granted bail. I don't either. However, I also did not personally believe that she was going to win a fucking appeal. So at this point, I don't trust the Colorado justice system and I'm ready to throw hands. And that's why I had to put it in here because Wow, to a logical person, this doesn't make sense. Neither does anything else happening. ⁓ huh. So, I feel like there's too many innocent people in prison and there's guilty people who just are running around We're gonna waste our taxpayers money on this retrial when we have the entire fuck up of Missy Woods. and the CBI to deal with and those retrials that should be happening where our taxpayer money should be going to correct those wrongs. Just saying. Just saying. Just thought. So her attorneys have already come out and said that Letitia does plan on pleading not guilty by reason of insanity again. Further expanding that a lot of research has come out in the past few years about borderline personality disorders and psychosis occurring with it. So they will explore that more this time around. So there's our hope for a different doctor or less of that other one this time. ⁓ If she decides to back, if she comes back, hopefully we won't have so many fucking delays because of her. ⁓ She won't like out the paper from her purse. Be like, mean this? That didn't exist for a year. ⁓ Hello? Ugh, don't even get us started on her. I can't wait to see Maria again though. Oh my god. And Jasper, oh my god, Jasper. It's gonna be good. Dumb bitch. On April 2nd, when this was all released, there were also statements released from the district attorney as well as Gannon St. Al and Gannon's mom Landon. And we are gonna share those with you now. So the district attorney's off. office statement said, today we learned of the appellate court's ruling in the Gannon stock murder case. The court's opinion is a disappointing result for this office, Gannon's family and everyone who loves him. Still, we remain undeterred in our search for the ultimate justice in this case. We will consult with the attorney general's office about seeking review of today's decision in the Colorado Supreme Court. And if necessary, we will be prepared to present the case to a new jury here in El Paso County. ⁓ to add a little bit more to that. The 4th Judicial District has 42 days to file a petition for, I'm going to try to say this, for writ of satirary, C-E-R-T-I-O-R-A-R-I. And this is why Jackie is not a lawyer. With the Colorado Supreme Court asking for the review of this case. What happens in that process will determine if and when a retrial is scheduled. So, yeah, they are now going to take this to the Supreme Court and make sure that the Supreme Court also agrees with the appellate court's ruling on this. Yeah. So, I mean, there's still a slight chance we don't have to go through a retrial. There is. There's a slight chance. You know when you're updating your computer and you're sitting there waiting forever and then it finally hits 100 % and you're like, hell yeah, and then it starts updating the next thing and it starts taking really slow? That's I feel like right fucking now in this case. I'll also release this statement. Yes, he did. And it reads, after hearing the news today about the decision by the court of appeals, I am truly torn by the emotions of potentially having to repeat this process. My resolve, however, has never been greater. My desire for justice has never wavered. And most importantly, my love for Gannon will never fail. I am reminded daily that Gannon is standing next to God in heaven and together looking down on all of us. As Pastor Paul and my mama recommended so many times throughout this process, let's go to the Psalms. I declare Psalms 23 over my family, all of the attorneys on this case, and everyone who has shown love and support for Gannon. The end result will be the same, and although we do not wish to journey this path again, we stand with those who will handle this case and believe wholeheartedly in their ability to finish this once and for all. ⁓ I just feel so bad for Alan Landon having to go through this again and just everything through. ⁓ Yeah. Landon statement. is she told, she has a very brief statement and then I have a statement from a very close friend of Landon's. Landon told... the news that she is very upset with this that this conviction has been reversed. She said right now all she can ask for is prayers and support as she and others continue to work to keep Gannon's memory alive. Brittany Tedder, a close friend of Landon, shared this statement with Landon's permission. My heart is truly heavy. I stand with my sweet friend Gannon's mother, Landon. His grandmother, Loronda, and the rest of his precious family who I love dearly. I hope they know that I will always stand beside them and with them through every moment of this, no matter how difficult it becomes. The decision to overturn the conviction and grant a retrial is deeply painful and incredibly hard to understand. For so many of this, this case was not just about evidence in courtrooms, it was about a little boy whose life was taken in the most heartbreaking and sickening way, by someone who was supposed to protect him. It feels like justice that was already fought for and won is now being pulled back, reopening wounds that never fully healed. While I understand that the legal system must follow its process, it does not make this any less devastating. There is a deep sense of grief, frustration, and sorrow as those who love Ganon are faced with reliving this tragedy all over again. Even in the midst of these emotions, I hold firmly to my faith I believe in a just God who sees all and knows all. He sees every truth, every lie, every act done in darkness. While the legal system may go through its processes, I trust that true justice, God's justice, will ultimately prevail. I continue to pray for strength, peace, and comfort over this family as they walk through this incredibly painful chapter once again. And yes, I even pray for the soul of the one responsible while still believing she should face the fullest extent of justice possible here on Earth. Gannon's life mattered. He will never be forgotten, and his story will continue to be told. We are, and always will be, Gannon Strong. Justice for Gannon. And honestly, I don't think anyone could have said it better. was, it's what we're all feeling without all the expletives that we like to add. And I just... I can't believe we're going through this again. I can't believe this family has to go through this again. There has to be another way. There has to be another way to protect these families and not make them do this. And I understand that this is our justice system. This is how it works. Everybody gets their appeals. Everybody gets their chance. But this shouldn't have happened. This should have never happened. This judge should have taken this juror out. And on that note, Judge Warner is up for reelection this year. You all know what to do. that's all I'll say about that. I take away some gift baskets. Before we discuss and have thoughts, I'm just gonna add that it's currently scheduled for Latisha to be transferred back and forth for hearings. Even though she was not in attendance for this recent hearing in January, she is being held at a prison in Colorado again. If y'all recall, she was moved to a prison in Kansas for a while, but was transferred back to a Colorado prison at some point. Denver, specifically. Yes. I personally don't see them transporting her back to a jail for security reasons, but also at the same time, I feel like there's levels of the law that she cannot be kept in a prison while waiting for a retrial because she's not convicted and she would have to go back to jail. That would be very interesting. Put her in jail. Put her in jail. Put her in jail. Put her in jail. Put her in CJC. Do it. Do it. Put her in CJC. So do you? have any thoughts we haven't already heard and covered. Nothing I can say on it on a live heard so I really really really really hate to say this right now because We were so very very very proud to say this in a second episode But unfortunately Justice is loading for Ganon again And that sucks It really does. So jury, I have some questions for you. Do you think Letitia has a chance to be quote unquote a free person until her new trial? Do you think they would actually put her back in jail instead of prison until then? And for those of you who are new to us and used to our new level of delivery and set up, would you like us to do an updated, more condensed version? of Ganon's story. Because our first one is two episodes and we put every single detail that existed out there. It was also our first two episodes. So please be nice. Yeah, we were also so nervous. were so nervous. We had to start the beginning over like eight times because Jackie was talking like this fast and I couldn't stop talking this fast because I was so scared and so nervous and I needed to get everything out to you. That. Like we ⁓ were babies in this situation. We're so more comfortable talking to a camera now and talking to each other. ⁓ we have really ⁓ personally upped our production game and like that. ⁓ already ⁓ been in the talks ⁓ of doing update for because We think he deserves that. His story deserves that. Yes. So we are also playing with a few different ways to do this. Correct. ⁓ And we've also been in talks with certain people. Close to this case that ⁓ would be able to contribute. And explain things that we... questions about and that we didn't understand in our original episode. Yeah. So please let us know if you would like a condensed version of that. We do have some other guests that we could also do with again an episode. So let us know what you're feeling. If you want more of him, if you want us to do something more condensed and more updated, not in our beanbag chairs in front of the window. With our fuzzy webcam. With our webcam that I bought. Like yeah, so. It's something that's always been in our head, but it's such a big project for us to do and we have so much going on. I'm just gonna level with y'all right now. We're going to do it. We're going to do it. It's just what capacity. Would you guys like a mini series on it that we maybe talk to investigators or maybe talk to people that were close to the family or involved in it? And it's more of like an in-depth like about the family and details and stuff like that. Or do you want one that is... just a condensed episode of everything, or do you want both? What would y'all like? We're gonna do a choose your own adventure story time for this one, because I feel like this isn't just our episode anymore, this is all of our episodes. This is, mean. This had such, Ganon's story had such an impact on this entire community, even now. You still see blue lights. Especially flood them. Flood them, yeah. Flood this fucking city. with blue lights, blue hearts everywhere. The thing was that when Gannon went missing, everybody put blue lights on their front porch. Lorson Ranch was filled with them, the community was filled with them, blue hearts everywhere. We have blue hearts tattooed on our ankles together. I do. And just flood the support for Al and Landon. They need it. yeah, so this is... There's actually a memorial for Gannon downtown. There is. I want everyone to go put fucking sonics, do something. Take a picture in front of it. Send it to us, post it. Please. Something. Please. There just no Alan Landon if you're out there. I doubt you're listening, but we have so much love and support for you guys and we are here for your family and we just want justice for him and that he is an incredible kid who touched so many people. and everybody should know about him. So that is why we're so passionate here. It is this little boy right here and God, he just made us want victims to be seen as much as he was seen in this town because everybody here hated her and everybody was standing up for him. Just we need that again. Don't worry. I still hate her. Mm-hmm So we have cried enough. I've made Sam cry like 18 times during this episode. I've held myself together We will see you guys in a couple days at our live show ⁓ you want to discuss any of this there We are more than willing to discuss this with you after we're done or before we start our show. So if you haven't bought a ticket, go buy a ticket. Don't worry. You don't need a ticket. Just show up and it's going to be a great night. Make sure you're following us everywhere so that you don't miss any updates, especially on what's happening with Leticia's retrial. You don't miss any updates for any new episodes. We have a lot of cool things coming up for season three. We have a lot of stuff planned. So at Justice for podcast everywhere. our website justiceforpodcast.com, submit us a case, get some merch. You can also use it to follow us everywhere. We have resources on there, all of it. I have to carry this into this episode because she ain't gonna make it over here. All right, guys, so have a wonderful day. Lock your doors. Don't make yourself more worth more dead than alive. And we'll catch you Thursday at our live show, Voodoo Brewing Call to Springs. Yeah, I apologize for nothing. does. I'm not well. Okay, love you. Bye.