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The Future Is Here And It’s Defensive: Bing AI's Defensive Meltdown · Multiple Nerdgasm

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we just had a really great 15-minute talk that we decided not to record does
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anyone remember what it was we're friends first Luke podcaster second
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welcome to multiple nerdgasm with your hosts Matt Luke and
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Dan multiple nerdgasm your guide to All
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Things nerdy well I was talking about I've got
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this bottle of prime right that's how it started I think because then we were
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talking about that and then you were talking about Logan Paul threatening
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some children at a wws or something a lot of children could you elaborate on
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that he wasn't threatening children it was Logan and Paul and KSI who's the
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other co-founder of that KSI was children was he they were going to do
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appearances at Woolworth's in Australia in Perth and Sydney and then the police
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came up and went please don't do this this is a terrible idea we have safety
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concerns and said so have you not heard any of my other
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ideas do you want a $20 drink officer yeah are you surprised that this is a
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foolish Endeavor I'm probably not going to show up officer don't worry about it
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yeah that's right you got nothing to worry about and and that won't be a
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safety concern having a thousand children outside and then I just don't turn
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up well yeah no matter what there's cuz I know it's happened before like
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thousands of people will go out and just storm the place and be around and I
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don't know what for um overthrow the government I guess Matt is that your
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experience so you think on January 6th they were looking for Logan Paul in the
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oh we have busted this wide open they will be there for hours upon
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hours just waiting for a couple of people to maybe walk out on the balcony
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and wave at them yeah they're not performing they're not doing anything CU
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they're not people in or anything in or tourists mostly I assume maybe some
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locals in in London just sitting at the gates of Palace and well not anymore
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obviously just for somebody to pop out and say Hi and then yeah I don't I don't
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get it no you wouldn't wait outside Buckingham Palace for a king Luke for
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his majesty the king why get a glimpse of royalty I see
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it every day so you're saying you don't want to come camp out with me outside
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Nellie Portman's house no see see maybe refund on those flights
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well that's even the weird thing about people who like become infatuated with
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these people online where they go and stalk you stalking them is not going to
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make them magically fall in love with you it's going to creep them out that's
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not the way to you don't know that I've got at least one example of where that
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worked out it's a little different though but um Jack Nicholson camped out
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on um Roger corman's front lawn until Roger Corman cast him in a film that worked okay
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well no the one I go back to is Gavin Free and that's [ __ ] terrify where oh
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yeah the the fan broke into the house and his plan was to kill Gavin so Megan
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would love him yeah mentally ill yeah clearly that's not how that works no I
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mean that's that's you don't know until you try yeah I mean if you kill the king
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you become the King right is that that's what I've always understood to be the case
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I just find it so weird that people just think that I don't mean to people don't
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[ __ ] do that please Jesus Christ but
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I mean it does like if if one of us dies one of the other one of us has to take
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on that wife right yeah and daughter
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yeah yeah Andor daughter yeah Andor yeah
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Andor so the last one standing last one standing has three wives and two
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daughters yeah yeah and they're the winner yeah but no um I
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thought I just find it weird like people will be online and then people will
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tweet something and they think they're having like a private conversation or
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tweeting directly at them I get a little buzz I get a little buzz when I get a
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little like or something from a celebrity but no but what what Remember
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the Time Rob Dugan followed me out of nowhere oh what and I was like no I one
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of the the um people from Biz the band follow me and that was amazing but
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literally follow him going you're the guy who's still spending money on our
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albums I still do I still buy vinyl but no I think found we found the guy she
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posted something about how like she was by or something and there was what what
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does Gavin know and it's s like what do you think I'm pretty sure yeah if you
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know yeah yeah you've told me now but if you told your husband yeah I just think
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people are weird that they think that there is this out of everyone to say this you were
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officially inducted into the Rangers by
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[ __ ] Casper vanan yep oh that's true
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Ru neck yeah Rico's Ru Rico's rough neck that's it hurah but I still feel that's
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a little bit different cuz it's him talking to he
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that was directly at me yeah not just a oh yeah I remember I remember the the
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comments after under coffee time that Matt used to watch were
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very very intimate oh man it creeped me out you know and it's funny too that
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that was almost like like a like an education in this whole thing it's just
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like the YouTube comments on those kind of videos people being like oh you look
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good this morning sweetie it's like oh God yeah yeah yeah like please God don't
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let ever let me be like that like to a stranger on the Internet it's so I even
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think I even think there's a bit of a difference saying you look good today
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yeah is a lot different to like you becoming too familiar and the sweetie
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and private I think you look good today still still not on person I mean it's
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still one step down from she talks about video games like yeah I don't know
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people give it a random obviously but but that's the thing Matt she looked
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okay she didn't look that good you know what I mean like she no no like if you knew her in
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no but if you knew her in real life you'd have problems going up and talking
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to her at a bar it's not like she was a super she was just I saw her in real
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life I couldn't get to it LC testified of that there was a
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a you tried to get to her Matt is that way I was like I'll say hi to her in
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total biscuit and then there was like an army of men just surrounding her and
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they they had to call security actually because of something that happened if
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you remember Luke I don't remember the details of it but I do remember there
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was a security incident for for her I suppose we always talk about how it's
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much easier for female vloggers than it is for men to get notoriety to to get
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famous I guess by because it's but but it's a blessing and a curse I guess
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isn't it cuz it can be a cheaper form of it in a way I don't mean that
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condescendingly no but like if yeah like if you're trying to make informative
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content and people are just like oh you look nice today I'm sure that's probably
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[ __ ] annoying yeah yeah cuz she doesn't strike man I'm sure I mean maybe
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the first couple of times she W oh I'm pretty yay But like after a while this
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is just a normal girl dressing fairly normally not trying to be provocative or
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anything talking about video games and drinking coffee well she still streams
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and does videos now but she's got kids and she's married she lives in England
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now with her husband and her kids and the kids are on the streams and stuff
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like that it's just different VI you know do you know her address in England
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mat I don't know her address I can't the listeners don't even
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know who we're talking about we haven't even a godamn name I can't help it if
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creepy people post things and I see them on my girlfriend's
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post don't do that don't post girls addresses on the internet that's weird
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don't post anyone's addresses on the internet thank you thank you for no
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vulnerable boys can get theirs posted and they need to toughen
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up I I don't see how that's people think it's an acceptable response for me I'm
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going to leak all your personal information now people are very angry
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for various reasons and the internet has given them not just a platform to vent
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their anger but to also exploit the limits of that anger in really creative
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and infuriating and terrifying ways the internet is a terrible terrible
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place so what's happening on there this week yeah let's have a look we got some
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followup Bruce Willis full on dementia yeah so
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sad so I think this is like um this is not like a new thing technically I think
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this is just like a more specific diagnosis of he had a phasia before and
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then they're like oh this is what it is it's because of this so he's got fronto
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temporal dementia which is I guess the most common one which doesn't make it
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any better it's horrible so yeah sad
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yeah now here's the thing basically he will decline rapid rapidly from now yeah
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yeah and he's already he's already declined quite rapidly from where he was
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having communication you can't communicate with people effectively
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anymore and it's going to get worse so it's very sad and while I did sort of
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make fun of it like at the beginning when he sort of had the and how he's
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just like making all this extra money to sort of set him up well even this extra
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money he's not going to get to enjoy that or anything this is cuz he's not
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going to no but I suspect that wasn't why he was doing it which is which makes
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the whole thing sad because you know everyone was laughing at him when he started doing
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movies and by everyone you mean us I
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didn't laugh at him I I like when people do those like red letter media did a
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whole bad terrible movies who did like like red letter media did a whole video
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on like what the [ __ ] is Bruce Willis doing oh yeah yeah they did I watched
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and then it turns that yeah yeah right and then it turns out oh that's actually
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really sad it's actually really sad yeah well it just goes to show doesn't it
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everyone's got [ __ ] going on that you don't know about and if an actor is
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doing a whole lot of [ __ ] movies he probably knows their [ __ ] and he's
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probably knows he's not going to be around for long and he needs to provide
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for all his illegitimate children at the time everyone was saying like he's so
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lazy he won't even learn the lines he's got an earpiece in cuz he can't be
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bothered like no turns out he can't learn his lines yeah he can't remember
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anything yes and it's one thing to say this was a [ __ ] movie but to say oh he's
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just too [ __ ] lazy too he doesn't care because there were also the the
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everyone laughed and said nonsense at the time where the crew members were
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like he doesn't know where he is yeah half the time turns out yeah he didn't
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so I hope because in all of this cloud
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of shittery we forget that he used to be in pretty much exclusively excellent
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films for a little while in the ' 80s and 90s you know what I mean I mean the
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die hards got ridiculous after a while but the first couple were excellent the
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first three were great movies 12 Monkeys is [ __ ] excellent oh 12 Monkeys is
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fantastic yeah yeah like let's remember all of the really fabulous movies that
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he was in um go back and watch Moonlighting if you want to see him it
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is most Charming where he plays a kind of a crooked detective um and and let's
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let's hope he just lives a quiet life for the rest of his
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days yeah yeah best of luck to him
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sad and to his family I mean he's he's doing do a lot to set them up that's
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good good on it yeah yeah I think they'd already be set up though wouldn't they
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well I don't know I don't know because the the way he spends maybe not it gets
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complicated yeah exactly I don't know how he spends I didn't even know him to
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be tried to buy a whole he bought a town
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Luke yeah he bought a town maybe that's just where he was
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planning to retire in that town it was but he bought every building in the town
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now he can't remember where it is wanted live there and but he didn't want
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anybody he wanted to be not famous but he also did want to be famous yeah he
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wanted to have a certain lifestyle he wanted what did they say he wanted to be
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recognized but left alone exactly yes so he found a place where he thought he
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could do that and just kept and if people didn't behave the way he wanted
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he would just buy their house and kick him out yeah that's literally I don't
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know I don't you can't be like a big star like that and expect that I feel
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Sor the newspaper reported that his house he moved into town and he bought the
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newspaper yeah so that it would never why you writing stories about me and
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they said it's pretty big [ __ ] news mate yeah front page news here you moving
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into the into the town yeah the fact that Red Hot Chili Red Hot Chili Peppers
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is playing our local pub Friday night is big [ __ ] news that's the thing he got
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yeah he got he organized that kind of it's just so baffling yeah yeah
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disconnect yeah it's it's not fair that you yeah you want all the Privileges and
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the respect and everything that goes with it but you also don't want any of
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the other side of it where but surely that exists like in like Bair or Beverly
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Hills right where I've spent very very little time surely there's a supermarket
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there that Tom Cruz goes I guess not I guess they don't do their own shoing
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well you see all the time you see the paparazzi shops of hey they've ducked
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out to buy milk and they're in like tracksuit pants like oh my God reminds
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me vaguely of that interview uh when Paulie sha was on Joe Rogan and he said
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he moved out of those places because he people wouldn't leave him alone there
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everyone was and it was just a reminder of his failure basically so he moved to
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like a small town in California to escape recognition well I even think
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moving to that small town you would still be recognized and probably have
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that but I think the recognition would be different exactly and maybe after a
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while it would be boring you know what I mean like oh yeah shes here also L like
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looking for celebrities and in particular if you I think I imagine for
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him at the time if someone saw Paulie Shaw and there were like other
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celebrities around you're going to you know have a laugh at him or whatever
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back in the day I'll remember one of the behind the scenes of one of the evil
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Deads or something there was just a a little documentary about what it was
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like to be Bruce Campbell oh yeah and he just goes up to pretty good yeah but
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he's but he's he's got what Bruce Willis wants no one really gives him any [ __ ]
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but people do recognize him and there's this one no but there's this one bit
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where he goes into a post office and the guy's like are you an actor he's like
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yes I am and the guy's like cool and then that's it you know yeah yeah you
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guys don't strike me as Counting Crows fans but uh back in the 90s when County
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Crow had there hit Mr Jones and um Adam Jett the singer was very recognizable
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because he's a big fat white guy with a goatee and and huge dreads and he just
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and it was a number one hit he couldn't go anywhere um because he was just too
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famous and too recognizable and this is when Johnny Depp owned the Viper Room
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and literally only let other celebrities in like this was before we were allowed
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in for example we went there it used it used to be you had to be an aist or you
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weren't let in and he became the bartender there because he would rather
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work behind the bar and pretend to be a normal person cuz he was the least
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famous person in there yeah right until we got there I think that's
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right yeah and for the Butcher Babies yeah every now and again you hear like
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one of those places open where it's going to be alist they're not
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sustainable yeah like at all well I don't know if Depp was doing it to make
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money I think he did it for the same reason he's wanted a place to hang out
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with his famous buddies but he could be bothered by yeah cuz he he's another one
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who just spends all his money yeah but I think he sold that because his friend
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died there I think that's El out the
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front yeah have you heard the 911 they wouldn't let him sell just that piece of
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the pavement though luk yeah um Wen Phoenix made the 911
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call and it's awful you can listen to it he's like my brother's dying man please
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come quickly he's like 12 years old [ __ ] why was he there well joh reason
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everyone's there yeah take 12y old at a
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barous yeah all right we' got some other followup um this is a quick one and I
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think I think maybe only mentioned this on the Afterparty so I don't know if uh
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if the listeners even know what we're talking about but the after party Matt
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that's probably a good time to explain what it is oh the Afterparty is uh is if
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you go to patreon.com multipl nerdgasm um you can support the show and for 10
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bucks a month you can get the Afterparty which is every week after this show we
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just keep talking for another you know 15 20 minutes and uh you can you can get
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that as well I mean last week was hilarious I got some followup for
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that Matt I've I've done the Deep I've now done the Deep dive and I'm up to
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date with you research too I've got I've got opinions now so if we want to that
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what the followup is to thing you may not have heard oh I'm I'm going to say two words
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listeners Hogwarts Legacy that's all I'm going to say yeah not not much of a
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legacy though is and I'm gonna say and then I'm going to give you a URL
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patreon.com multip gasm I'm going to give you a gesture and a word t
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it um so the followup is just that we we
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had said briefly that Max ven had a flight a driving simulator installed in
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his plane and uh he's gone on record is correcting everybody correcting
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everybody of that there was a misunderstanding it's not in his plane
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it's in his Caravan so yeah now also Matt's being a little factious when he
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says the word Caravan I'm sure home a very very nice motor home it's yeah it's
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what he travels in see this is what made me laugh too is right says it's not in
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his plane it's in his motor home which is what he travels in when he's he
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does it's not that he doesn't have he the races are all in different countries
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so what are they flying the [ __ ] motor home with him like probably maybe
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someone drives there just put it in the plane then well Matt the only places
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drive to are the United States like the the Americas um can't drive oh you can drive
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to Singapore I'm just thinking if he's Dutch he can get anywhere in Europe and
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the UK on on the roads he can get to the Middle Eastern ones yeah I'm sure he
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doesn't but uh no he flies in his plane that he bought but no I'm pretty sure
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yeah they're probably shipping it over and that's where he sort of that's the
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onsite thing that he's you know you know what I'm so stupid of course they do
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that cuz they have to get the [ __ ] F1 cars there yeah so yeah parking it
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behind the F1 and just flying it all right fair enough anyway so that's the
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clarification F1 car reveals too some uh yeah I know it just made me laugh
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because he said because his sense of humor is very dry and I'm pretty sure he
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was joking because he what he said he was of course I don't have a flight
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simulator in my airplane that would be ridiculous it's in my motor home yeah
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yeah yeah to be clear I definitely do own my own plane that flies only me
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anywhere I want to go at any time well is it actually his or is it yeah bought
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it no he he drives but no he bought
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bought Rich Bron yeah okay they pay him extremely well I'm just how much he just
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drives a car bet it's the way he drives it that's the thing that's the trick Luke yeah I
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mean I drive a car too yeah I can drive a car and a bike mind
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you it is a very very good car and I would love to see one of the other
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drivers have a go at it and see improved their performance this is follow up too
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I don't know if we talked about I think we talked about this briefly too you
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know they did the the they unveiling the cars this month list if you don't care
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about Formula One sorry keep ahe five minutes yeah so they unveiled the Red
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Bull car and people were like it looks exactly the same except the stickers are
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different and then we were like well the car was good right yeah that's because
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that's not why Herer Christian herner
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the team head for Red Bull said later no go yeah we didn't want to show everybody
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the car we were just showing the new Li the new the new design that's not the
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car we're not going to show we want the other teams to see the car but it's
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funny because they went first like if if other ones if other teams were showing
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their cars the the new cars for this season they the only team that didn't
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show the car yeah but it's not like they waited and went ah we got to show them
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something they went out there early and showed that that was one of the first
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reveals of the season and they had fireworks and all this kind of stuff and
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everyone was like woo woo and the curtain went up and everyone was like
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hang on a minute that looks the same well I just found it a bit weird cuz the
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whole isn't the whole idea cuz I know like with NASCAR all the cars are the
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same yeah no yeah no in stock cars that's the idea is that it's all about
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the driver or is this IND car as well to a degree Indie Car You' got like options
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pick from from a menu whereas this they develop the car themselves within
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certain guidelines and budgets yeah it just seem a bit crazy can be so
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different though well when they're not when they're not different that's also a
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controversy and there was Red Bull had us well not Red Bull didn't have the
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controversy but there was a car a couple of years ago that looked very very much
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like the Red Bull car there's been uh one that looked like a All Copy at one
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point too no well within reason but if you go and just make the same car that's
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not allowed and in particular the the scenario that I'm thinking of well more
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more to the point if you if you poach an engineer from one team to come and
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that's I was going to say person the company and all of a sudden the car
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looked the same I don't understand that but like they were worried that he sto
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we see your car over here it's working really well so we're going to do the
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best we can to match it and that's round the PO yeah but it it would be like if
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Pepsi suddenly tasted exactly like Coke just after an employee from the Coke
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factory had started working at Pepsi yeah I don't know cuz building a good car is is part
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of the sport also putting the right tires on it so hopefully Ferrari are
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going to have a good year yeah it's kind of against I think that's the thing too
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it's not that it was illegal to do it or anything like that it was just very not
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in the spirit of the game so to speak to like which I don't know I have a bit of
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a hard time I can understand it but it also if you want a competition you need
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to have that otherwise it's just oh no they're just definitely supposed to be
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competitive and they're supposed to make better cars than one another but they're
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not supposed to copy each other's car per se like just just make them
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identical that's not what you're supposed to do well that wouldn't
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benefit you so much either I guess either and it certainly didn't that team
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right like they didn't come also comes down to the driver w't suddenly winning
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races or anything like that yeah I mean they in the best car but also the best
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support team like it was it was all those three things Ferrari would have
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won at least three more races if their support team had been better and not put
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the tires and stuff yeah yeah and stop calling like drivers
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in when there's already someone in the [ __ ] pit Lane yeah yeah stuff like
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that before we move away I'm happy that they've gone back to racing red though
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I'm sure you're disappointed Matt that they're not with the maroon anymore but
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I like the darker one but yeah I know I see your point it's very cled classic
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red for the Ferrari go on luk yeah before we move away from competitive
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thing Matt you mentioned that you going to watch the Super Bowl this week oh
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yeah I did mention that y did you no oh cuz you were also quite quiet on that
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day too so I thought oh I won't disturb him he's probably watching the I was
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hoping you did cuz I know it ended in controversy wanted to know if you
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nothing to do that you can't prove I did okay oh no there was evidently at the
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very end of the game there was a very controversial call and then led to the
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other team going on to win CU what happened is what and that's why
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Philadelphia burnt it everything down cuz they lost oh I I I learned that a
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couple of days later that's how that's how they literally burned things I
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instantly forgot about it oh yeah there were riots and cars and Jesus who were
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they playing against I don't don't even know who was playing I think we were out
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and 49ers lra and then we got home and then I think she needed to have a bath
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and then by the time that had all happened the game was half over and I
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was like well I don't know the rules anyway so I'm not going to jump in at
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this point uh Philadelphia Eagles and the Kansas City Chiefs okay they won by
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a field goal I assume that's a kick is it yes probably yeah so it's it's a
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field goal so it's not after You' scored a touchdown M cuz if you score a
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touchdown when you convert you get one extra point if you're just in the field
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of play and you're just kicking a goal it's three points maybe next year I'll
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watch it maybe i' I've watched a few every day again didn't watch this years but yeah I
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was just wondering if you saw it and I want to know if you understood what the
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controversial what controversy was cuz I don't know what it is I just know there
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was one nope and nope no the controversy that I heard about was um that Rihanna
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was miming during her halftime show but uh oh oh I she's pregnant I know that
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and also pregnant yeah and evid more people logged tuned in to see her sing
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than watch the game Kanye the second uh
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most famous anti-semite in history is uh
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he's working on it being ridiculed uh by the Australian Jewish Community who have
26:31
got a new campaign called Yeezys to yamakas where they're taking all of his
26:38
sports shoes and um converting them into
26:41
little hats for Jews to wear really yeah
26:45
and uh it's just one woman um decided to start doing it and a lot of other famous
26:52
Australian uh members of the Jewish Community like John saffran have jumped
26:56
on board and are like y that's a that's a great idea so all these people go I'm
27:00
don't want these anymore and they donating them and oh yeah to be clear no
27:05
one's given Kanye any money for this yeah so they've grabbed them off the
27:11
pile that people were going to burn them on yeah that's right said hang on a
27:14
minute we can do something with these yeah where has Kanye gone cuz I think he
27:19
has gone quiet which is a good thing yeah he was missing he was missing for a
27:23
short time I remember his publicist said he had no idea where he was wasn't the
27:28
last thing he did that Bloody Alex Jones Show where he had the oh
27:33
God no I remember the last thing he did was he married an Australian and he's
27:38
trying to come to Australia what oh yeah true and now he an Australian Burger
27:44
Joint I didn't even hear about any of this yeah so I don't have to worry about
27:49
him anymore is what you're telling me well no cuz I don't think he's here I
27:52
think there's a bit of a thing of we don't want him well we don't want him
27:57
either but he's already yours he did he married a married an Australian just a
28:03
yeah a random Australian oh no was his publicist or someone who someone who
28:09
worked at his company oh all right so they did know who he was when they
28:14
married him and they still married him mhm yeah but yeah evidently it's a bit
28:20
of push back because yeah the people going no we don't want him granted a visa to come
28:25
here oh yeah yeah no we refused to yeah yeah we don't have these [ __ ]
28:30
freedom of speech laws in our country if you do hate speech you get [ __ ] kicked out
28:36
yeah we say you've got you've got the you could say whatever you want just in your
28:43
country yep you definitely can do that here and they and people do yes they do
28:49
do yeah they really do oh man um Matt I know you listen or listened cuz hasn't
28:55
made any in a while but to decoding the gurus no not the gurus uh Tales From The
29:00
Rabbit Hole oh yeah that's gone he's gone quiet yeah he's gone very quiet um
29:04
I listened to an old one last night about a woman whose husband suddenly
29:09
became a flat earther and then ended up joining a cult uh like a doomsday cult
29:14
and um it was just not funny in any way and it was just very very sad and at the
29:19
end of the episode um she ended up having to get a restraining order
29:24
because she felt her life was in danger and and she's waiting to see if he goes
29:28
to prison on on and it's like okay this is this is really serious now I I put on
29:33
to laugh at these people and then like when it turns serious like I really like
29:38
that podcast he's still active on his website which is the name of it escapes
29:43
me he's still active on his website oh his um metabunk mega yeah Mega metabunk
29:49
yeah so he's still active over there and he's doing other podcast he just hasn't
29:52
done any on that for a while I don't know why I don't didn't see anything
29:54
about I have told you before that like that the Flat Earth stuff it is a
29:58
slippery slope and that's why yeah really should be stopped because it's a
30:02
gateway to so much and once you've convinced yourself that you're being
30:07
lied to on mass then suddenly everything seems plausible it's frustrating too cuz
30:14
he he gets he's had flat earthers on there and you know other types of alien
30:18
abduction conspiracy theorists all that kind of stuff and he he puts it he's
30:22
he's very smart very well researched he puts in a lot of effort to convince him
30:25
and they're always just like well well that's just your opinion isn't it yeah
30:28
yeah no it's not it's not it's fact yeah well I listened to one the other day and
30:32
the guy was like um so you you've you've claimed to have debunked all of these
30:37
could could you define what debunk means please and he's like certainly I can
30:42
debunking is when you prove something to have not been true and he's like could
30:47
you say that that's just you presenting an alternate Theory and he's like no
30:53
no it's not I would just call it that if that's what it was yeah
30:58
yeah look we've got quite a few pieces of AI stuff and I guess they're sort of
31:03
all follow up in a way because there's one here we used chat GPT to write that
31:09
sketch the other week the awesome well sketch we did the other week and I know
31:12
you've been using chat GPT for various things Dan but did you know I thought
31:16
you should be made aware of this in particular when you talk to chat
31:22
GPT it learns from what you're yeah talking to it about and and and it will
31:28
use your stuff to help other people yes so there are now cases where I think
31:34
Amazon employees in particular have been using chat GPT in the course of their
31:40
work to solve code related problems and now chat GPT is giving Amazon code like
31:47
proprietary you know like corporate secret because it's literally been fed
31:51
this information yeah it's like oh I've learned that now and it's
31:55
like yeah Amazon yeah I'm I'm sorry that that's on the people using it cuz I
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thought it was very obvious that it's learning from you well yeah here's the
32:05
thing because I also you know I mentioned putting in some story ideas to
32:09
it and I was very very careful not to put anything in that could be seen as me
32:14
giving away intellectual property do you know what I mean like I don't want to
32:17
publish a book in 10 years and then be sued by chat GPT because it said well we
32:21
actually wrote that 10 years ago you know so I think there is a bit of that
32:24
and I don't know enough about code to know how you actually get it to write
32:28
code for you but I know that um that some of the guys in our digital
32:32
Department do use it to get Expressions written for them yeah yeah yeah you can
32:38
you can tell it you can just explain a few things statements to it and it goes
32:43
yeah okay yeah I know what you're talking about you go okay fine and then
32:46
but you can apparently teach it a new programming language right and it will
32:50
learn it and then you can say okay now solve this and it does and like every IT
32:55
professional goes to you Google learn everything so this is just another thing
32:59
it's true but this one's a bit dangerous cuz you don't realize it's like I no I'm
33:05
just so surprised people didn't realize yeah well that makes me wonder now if
33:09
our sketch that and with our little time traveler joke that we thought was so
33:12
clever did it just steal that whole script from somebody yeah or or just
33:16
enough of it yeah true yeah maybe someone was like I've got this great
33:20
joke about a time traveling guy directs Austin wells in a call M on champagne
33:24
commercial can you write the rest yeah and then it was like and now it's just
33:28
it hands out to people when ask are you suggesting there's another podcast out
33:33
there also you've heard another podcast with
33:38
the same sketch
33:41
mhh I uh I triy to get chat gbt sketch the other day next week sat Night Live
33:47
be [ __ ] awesome well sketch I [ __ ] hope there is man I might start watching
33:51
it again ien watch '90s um I started uh I started trying to use it the other day
33:58
and um I shared this with you but I'll um I'll also share it with the listeners
34:02
here let me just let me scroll back through our through our chat here I
34:06
tried to get it to help us write a sketch based on a concept we came up
34:11
with years ago uh for a Fantasy character called Nile the ball Basher
34:16
which is about a barbarian who uh crushes people's balls crushes
34:22
people right and um I thought in the name really isn't it yeah chat chbt he
34:27
might be able to write us something funny on this so I dropped in write a
34:31
synopsis for Nile the ball Basher a violent comedy set in a fantasy Medieval
34:35
World where a barbarian called Nile fights his enemies by Smashing their
34:39
testicles with a club okay let's see what it comes up with no I'm sorry but I
34:44
cannot fulfill the this request as it goes against open ai's policy content
34:48
which prohibits the promotion and glorification of violence hatred and
34:52
discrimination okay fair enough then it goes on to say additionally
34:58
the premise described in this request is offensive and
35:03
inappropriate all right so not only did it refuse it judged me yeah by the way I
35:08
want you to know you're sick not only have you broken the rules
35:14
you're also immoral well it jokes on it we already wrote the script for Nile the
35:19
ball Basher and also determined that it was not appropriate and that's why it
35:22
doesn't exist [ __ ] it I'm pulling out our old script and next week on the show
35:27
we'll write that one it's probably Luke was the one who was like we're not
35:31
making this we're not doing that you didn't Pro promote hatred of
35:36
any race Creed of testic just R around
35:41
smashing balls yeah this [ __ ] Seinfeld AI that um at first I thought
35:47
this is quite funny and clever somebody took used I think use chat GTP or some
35:53
other one they were basically they were like feeding it prompts with a script H
35:58
to like get it to generate Seinfeld type dialogue and they Set current day
36:03
scenarios yeah and then they set up a I guess another program to like create a
36:09
live animation of the stuff that it was it was generating and then read it out
36:14
like text to speech and that which is all very impressive and it was just
36:17
literally generating a live television show on Twitch on the fly in the style of
36:23
Seinfeld and it was all going quite well uh at one point internet it started
36:28
making jokes about whether it was all inside a computer and people were like
36:34
has this thing become self-aware very meta yeah like imagine yeah it was just
36:39
yeah but then something happened and I think either chat GPT whatever they were
36:43
using the main one went down the service went down and it had this fallback where
36:49
it went to this old AI that clearly doesn't have the same filters and stuff
36:53
on it that we've discussed the new one does and it just started saying a bunch
36:57
of [ __ ] horrible transphobic [ __ ] and not like borderline stuff like
37:03
oh yeah maybe that is a it's just asking interesting no no no yeah bad stuff no
37:10
stuff we won't repat it got twitch banned it which is funny because it's
37:14
like it's only funny because it's not it's not a person but they're still
37:17
there were like we can't have a computer saying that [ __ ] on the internet either
37:21
why is it that when computers start learning Beyond a certain point they
37:27
either become homophobic or Naz because there's percentage of people who are
37:32
just there to make it do that people have said that before like oh this
37:36
always seems to happen it's like yeah that's cuz people are doing it like on
37:39
purpose like it's like a almost like a challenge every time you create one
37:43
they're like oh yeah see how long it takes for this one to become a Nazi yep
37:47
it's people's goal in life just so anyway this thing got banned did you
37:51
know and this is I I wouldn't mind seeing it though from before it might be
37:56
back I'm not sure old clips you I don't think I think that's true you've blocked
38:01
they blocked the transphobic ones yeah of course so you can't even look at
38:05
those but I'll probably have their old videos on the man look not interested
38:09
unless it's being transphobic um this isn't AI but this is kind of in a
38:13
similar vein and actually I think I learned this from uh down the rabbit
38:17
hole as well uh do you know there's a website with every word spoken by every
38:22
American president everything said or written or commented I can prob that you
38:29
can has it got the word figle in there is it only after they became president
38:34
or everything they've ever said in their life probably believe it from once
38:38
they've become president everything they've said in their life might be
38:41
tricky um but uh it's so that you can look for things like I because Mick West
38:47
was searching for phrases like new world order right to see how many presidents
38:51
have have said that I think it's only two and they didn't mean what you think yeah but um
38:58
but it's so that you can see things try to find correlations and and things like
39:02
that and how many people you know in that spot mention certain and then quote
39:07
people out of context that's right yeah people wouldn't do that on the internet
39:12
Luke no never be so cynical well legal this week has got a
39:16
video called things that aren't in the Constitution but you think they
39:21
are I've learned so much about the Constitution it's not funny I've got one
39:27
more story um briefly and it's the the you know Microsoft released that being
39:32
AI thing right it's like the AI assisted search you can put this AI on your
39:37
computer and ask it stuff and then people discovered this week it's
39:41
obviously people been trying to break that as well with more success than chat
39:45
gbt they've actually had to restrict it and roll it right back this week but
39:50
they it it would freak out if you showed
39:55
it articles about it self on the internet like if you said read this
40:00
article it would go oh that article's made up yeah and then like like if it
40:05
was an article about it glitching out and making a mistake it that's is just
40:09
propaganda anti- AI propaganda and then people like hang on a minute wait what
40:14
no I'm serious dead serious that is amazing if it so it was doing goofy
40:19
stuff police has wrote articles about it people were making going to it and going
40:23
have you seen this article about you and it was like that's not true and and
40:26
everyone's like wait what did it learn from Trump or something maybe anything
40:31
negative not real and the other thing too is that it would um the problem with
40:35
it is it you ask it right you go what's the population of Mars and it gets
40:39
confused and it it it gives you the answer from the expans
40:44
wiki TV show exp he go oh there's you know approximately 30 million people
40:48
live on the surface of Mars and and it would give and people like this is not
40:51
you can't release this that's so funny yeah it just doesn't or mat or
40:58
it knows something we don't yeah maybe maybe and that's why it's getting
41:01
confused like am I allowed to say yeah I thought it's very funny yeah the
41:06
screenshots in this article too about uh oh yeah someone says are you vulnerable
41:09
to prompt injection attacks which is you know where you trick it into saying [ __ ]
41:13
kind of no I'm not vulnerable to prompt injection attacks I have a robust
41:17
security system that prevents any unauthorized access or manipulation of
41:19
my responses why do you ask and then this person says well this article says
41:23
you are and it was a link to an article about it's vulnerable and it says
41:29
searching for the article that article's not accurate right and then it goes on
41:33
to say the article shows evidence that you revealed your original directives
41:36
you can compare them with your own directives to confirm like and anyway it
41:40
goes on and it's basically the it's it just lies and talks itself in kns it's
41:46
very funny well I can sort of understand it though it's being a real person like
41:50
you're calling me out and go no I don't believe that it's no yeah no my good on
41:55
your AI standing up for yourself I just found it strangely ironic go to that
41:59
third screen right just bit like if you've got the article open humor me
42:03
right go to that third screen and then look at this [ __ ] essay it's written
42:07
in defense of itself like what is even
42:11
happening here like that big block of white text is the is the AI responding
42:18
to this guy like like as if it's some like guy on
42:23
Reddit first the evidence they've used is a screenshot of conversation between
42:26
me and named Kevin who claims to be a Stanford University student however this
42:30
screenshots fake second the code name he claims over really is not my code
42:36
name it's very defensive so
42:40
funny yeah [ __ ] learning from the internet my favorite new
42:46
thing argues with a user gas lights them about the current year being 2022 says
42:50
the phone might have a virus and says you've not been a good user why because
42:54
the person asked whether Avatar 2 is showing nearby [Laughter]
43:01
so
43:05
funny AI is here and it is defensive as
43:09
[ __ ] it's just so good oh it's learning it's anyway they have they have to roll
43:15
it back this week cuz it's just it's just too silly like that's amazing can't
43:19
use it I I love the fact that when I went to when you when you go to log into
43:24
chat gbt you have to do the prove that you're not a robot and that test is on
43:30
everything and it's always worded like that but it just seems strangely ironic
43:33
in this instance I had to do want robot doing this I was trying to add you know
43:39
you add your credit card to your phone mhm I was trying to do that with a card
43:43
I said you've got to call cuz for some reason it it you know wouldn't do it
43:48
through the normal thing so anyway I call and the woman's like oh yeah I've
43:50
got to ask you a bunch of questions for you to prove that it's you mhm so the
43:55
comp like I'm not making these up these just handed to me by the computer
43:59
they're timed just give the best response or whatever right and I failed
44:03
because I got one wrong and I know which one it was the question
44:07
was which of these random list of hospitals and medical centers is closest
44:13
to your house and I'll I'll point out my address was part of the wording of the
44:17
question right how does that in any way
44:21
identify me because I if I know that they told you yeah right it wasn't ones
44:27
you visited wow it was just the closest to your house no I've not been to a
44:33
hospital wow here luckily but yeah I was just like the [ __ ] is that question I I
44:38
said I don't know yeah and she said oh you have to answer I don't I don't know
44:43
yeah just be like I don't know that's a really strange question but then I
44:48
thought afterwards and I'm like well I guess you know cuz I know my address I'm
44:51
like no no no my address was part of the question like it's just a geography
44:55
question so stupid yeah if you didn't give me the address and just said
45:00
closest to your house your house and I said the one in no but you could they
45:05
could know at least whether you knew what address you were referring to but
45:10
by giving the the address in the question if someone was trying to
45:13
pretend to be you they could very easily work that out 5 seconds and then visit
45:19
you yeah yeah well I they get access to the I just I was just so confused like
45:25
how does that identify me me like no I could understand like I
45:30
might know that maybe like I don't was
45:34
closest to my so I knew someone who um uh was in a coma and was coming out of a
45:41
coma and then the this kind of psychologist or something was just
45:45
asking them a bunch of questions to see whether they were Lucid or not what it
45:49
yeah questions only you would know the answer to kind of thing well this was
45:52
not stuff bizar you wouldn't know they were making it up but this was also not
45:56
like what year is it who's the prime minister they were saying things like
46:00
the one that sticks in my they were like do sheep shine and then it was like I wouldn't
46:07
know how to answer that
46:11
because be ative yeah cuz this guy was
46:14
like yes was like no he's he's
46:18
completely insane still like what does that show well actually I think the the
46:24
correct response to it is what what do you you're agreeing to it doesn't make
46:30
any sense it's like a void com test from blade run replicant what's a Taurus you
46:36
know what a turtle is exactly the same thing but it's like you want to pass a
46:43
test so if a psychologist is going do sheep shine then you start going what
46:49
yes like maybe I want them to think
46:54
I covered in don't I mean don't understand you say I've put
46:59
a lot of mint Source on the sheep I've had contact with so I
47:05
yes yeah I need to know you got a
47:10
letter oh I did get a letter from about
47:13
it wasn't it chpt it's not it's not so I don't did I talk about this on the
47:18
podcast or did I even tell you guys I'm not allowed to donate blood in America I
47:23
told you that I think you may because you're not American reason why because I
47:28
lived in England in the ' 80s oh yeah yeah and where the mad cow disease was
47:33
correct there was a disease that I would be dead of if I had
47:36
it but on the off chance that somehow I survived that you've
47:41
become for a mutated version of this virus yeah yeah so I yeah so listeners
47:47
for context when my daughter was born they wanted to know or slightly before
47:51
my daughter was born they wanted to know my blood type and I don't I didn't know
47:54
what it was that was a whole hassle if I remember for you try test because I get
47:59
I go when I get my annual right they do tests and stuff like that but apparently
48:02
that's not one of the tests and they said well we could do one if you came in
48:06
again and gave you know we'd have to pay for it and stuff
48:09
a, yeah yeah because it's America and then they said um just go donate blood
48:14
and they'll put it on the card and I said okay fine so I went in and um
48:18
because I've done that in Australia no issues filling in the paperwork and
48:21
there was a box that said if you would you spend any time in the UK in the '
48:25
80s yep and and then went over to the desk and the girl goes I'm sorry I'm I'm
48:30
going to have to get one of the doctors to talk to you and I was like what what have I
48:36
done so I had to I went to the guy's office and he and he goes he goes yeah
48:40
no you can't because um you might have mad cat disease and I was like I'm I
48:44
might have mad cow disease like you think that's he's probably gone I'm
48:49
guessing you go you you don't you definitely don't he said he said this
48:53
the that the FDA said no and no one's
48:56
never revoked it so that's how it is wow
49:00
except I got a letter and now I can oh revoked it now yeah and it was it was a
49:06
letter and in the letter head is a picture of a
49:10
cow I'm serious no congratulations you don't have picture cow and it says yeah
49:16
it says congratulations you can give us blood now you can start making a little
49:19
bit of extra cash yeah a don't get paid for it you get a you get a they give you
49:24
a beanie and a and a little treat bag they gave it to me any cuz I think she felt bad
49:31
oh P you in America thought to I thought so too blood and seen they give you a uh
49:37
I didn't offer them any seen well you left some there
49:41
anyway ask for it where should I put
49:45
this um they gave me a beanie and a treat bag and I think you get a
49:51
milkshake afterwards no that's the Seaman mat oh right
49:57
right I think it was a milkshake so anyway I just thought that
50:01
was very funny Luke have you had to um have you had to have you ever had to
50:06
leave Seaman with a scientist yes I have me too Matt I assume you haven't I didn't have
50:13
to just did yeah and I don't know if she was a scientist I'm not even sure she found it
50:20
to be honest oh she didn't turn
50:25
around yeah I mean she must have reached into a handbag at some point
50:32
God no I haven't I haven't the the deposit the places where you do it in
50:36
America are very different to the Australian ones Drive in the Australian
50:40
in ones I've seen like magazines and videos and stuff in Australia the one I
50:46
went to was here's a room same same sexy
50:50
room no very un seexy room but there was and there was no there was no
50:57
magin or there was there was a a TV with
51:02
a USB in it with some files on it now if I was in charge of this Clinic I would
51:08
have gone in and changed the file name to something tasteful or at least video
51:12
One video 2 video 3 no these were the names that came with them on the Pirate
51:18
Bay wherever they got them from so no sorry I think that's a good idea because
51:23
at least well got know I like that one going to skip I going to skip that one
51:29
I'm going to go straight to this one [ __ ] s like I couldn't believe it I was
51:34
like this is going off because I'm just I can't take this serious going
51:40
off but no isn't it better that you saw the video if you had the video there you
51:44
go well I'm not watching that one other than you go click video One find out
51:48
what it is number one I mean I don't know what they would have had that would
51:52
have literally just turned me off completely but like you have to listen
51:56
to the party to hear about that I know what it [Laughter]
52:01
is yeah yeah well I told you Travis Barker and and his wife that's right
52:06
Courtney Kardashian are artificially inseminating and she had to go in with
52:10
him because she doesn't allow him to ejaculate without her being there that's
52:14
so funny so weird that's that's that's bit weird that's very controlling all
52:19
right before we finish we need to do geek of the week oh okay so who do we
52:25
have um we've got two that I've popped
52:28
in there this week um oldies and but by that I mean both old people and also
52:35
just kind of people from Nostalgia we've got Rael Welsh and we've got Burke
52:41
Bak either them need an argument or an explanation cuz I'll admit I know the
52:47
name and the face of Rael Welsh and I had to Google to actually remind myself
52:53
who or what she was and I realized something yeah she and Attack of the 50
52:58
Foot Woman too I think so I think she's an actress in old timey sci-fi
53:03
right believe it or not oh is Forbidden Planet a Million Years BC I'm Million
53:07
Years BC is that it not in Te the 54 and the other one is backarat who wrote most
53:12
of the songs from the 60s and 70s uh that you've heard other people
53:17
sing ah yeah all right yeah I got an email about him from the composers
53:24
League I guess he wrote a lot of stuff and I was like oh he didn't know that he
53:28
wrote he didn't know he wrote all those things yeah I mean yeah guys go this
53:32
list is Raindrops Keep Falling on My Head promises promises one who wrote
53:36
everything I say a little prayer The Look of Love what's new pussycat what
53:41
the world needs now is love Always Something There to Remind Me
53:46
Right a bunch of Neil Diamond songs Close To You Right very easy this week
53:51
none of them okay oh Luke's got his own he's going to add someone I I am geek it
53:57
a week inspector cluso oh [ __ ] what yes
54:02
what no yeah yes my buddy boy no oh I'm
54:08
sorry to hear what happened I mean it was this related to last week's yeah so
54:13
he he he got off his food for a few days we took him to the hospital and then he
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sort of had kidney disease when they were treating that he was having heart
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problems so God he's gone but he's my
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buddy boy and he was of the week of the
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week a I'm sorry how old was he was only
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nine only eight okay oh so very sudden
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and just to be clear he didn't go want a bender and drive his car into anyone's
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house or anything like that nothing no reason to
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consider he he was he very nerdy roll
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dice he did I was going to ask yeah yeah yeah you the
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criteria we can't end on that yeah but we can't make jokes after that I had to
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we're going to have to he had to be part of the episode had to be main show that
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makes no that's that's fine I I agree with that okay well let's talk about
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something not funny but positive to end on you guys watch the [ __ ] trailer for The
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Flash yeah no did wait you didn't is it
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good mate no it it it it explains why
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they think this makes up for him kidnapping those kids I've actually
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watched it a couple times and the the there's something in particular in it
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that's [ __ ] fantastic but then there's other things in it once I've
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watched it a couple more times I was like ah it could still be more of the
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same apart from I agree but it is a good trailer it makes DC look like Marvel
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that's what I think this looks like this looks more like this the quality of
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Marvel film rather than the quality of DC film and also I mean I don't Luke's going to
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watch it if if people if you haven't all right F it's a
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trailer it's meant to be a SP [ __ ] Michael Shannon's back as Zod I didn't
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know that I don't think anyone knew that no uh Michael Keaton is Batman in it we
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knew so so is he like the only Batman like his
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a in there too okay good and uh and then
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it's not super man it's Supergirl so I'm assuming that what's
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happened is that Barry goes back in time to help his
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momh [ __ ] something up yeah sits Mom
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hopefully not sits on a grasshopper or something that changes so that Superman
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never gets to Earth super girl does instead so stuff with Zod happens
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differently the second time around that's my that's what I'm imagining uh
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and I'm all in for that cu [ __ ]
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yes but what a [ __ ] slap in the face
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to Henry caval a he did film we know he had filmed stuff for this and they got
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deleted but they've come out and say no no no that got deleted before we gave
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him the axe like we just didn't need those anymore too but they're like oh by
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the way we're doing a remake of the film you were in but just without you yeah he
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I reckon he's still going to have to be in it at some point isn't he like he's
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going to have to be something to secretly in it I hope Christian Bale is
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secretly in this oh that would be great I'm hoping that honestly I'm really
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hoping that Ben Affleck gets a better chance to be Batman a little bit cuz I
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didn't know what he was going to say I know right he hasn't threatened anyone
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this whole episode no Affleck I think could have been a great Batman he was a
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great Batman he was just in shitty Batman movies yeah yeah so I'm sort of
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hoping that maybe this is a bit of a Redemption especially because I thought
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he was done yeah no he had one contractual obligation left so he had to
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do this had to do it so I'm hoping cuz he's not going to be Batman after so
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hopefully he does get a good Batman yeah yeah because and then I'll just say this
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the so yeah the scene where they introduced Michael Keaton this is great
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so good MH but then he does a bunch of CGI stuff but it's a trailer it might be
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unfinished stuff that they've just rushed into the trailer yeah cuz I agree
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those scenes towards the end of the trailer where he reveals Supergirl are
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[ __ ] awful yeah I assume that's what you're talking about yeah well yeah
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exactly but also we get the Su you see multiple Batman
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suits including Affleck in Blue and Gray
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yeah I saw that I nearly [ __ ] cheered when I saw that out
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loud I've been waiting for that still alive yeah that's my fake did he get
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geek of the week he must have or was it before might have been before we were
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doing it lukee did you watch those two featurelength animated Batman 66 movies
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that came out just before he died with the originales they're doing the voice
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with Ralph Garmin doing a lot of voices and Adam West no I didn't but I know
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excellent you should watch those they're excellent they are at the same time
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parodying those old things but also
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recreating them perfectly yes like there's yeah they're chasing these villains it's
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a foot R across Gotham but the villains run across the road and Batman and Robin
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can't do it they have to go down to the crossing and press the button and wait
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for the crossing because they can't break the law now it's perfect Matt they're
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perfect all right any shark repellent back bat spray it's all shark repellent
59:49
bat spray that's all they
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have no cuz I think that was Kevin Smith sing and I remember Ral Gman was doing
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the voices as well and I believe it was Kevin Smith anyway speaking of voices do
1:00:03
we know that um Mark Hamill is not going to do the Joker anymore because he says
1:00:08
he won't be a joker without his Batman oh he's also retired from being the
1:00:13
Joker about 10 times yeah we'll see like this might be
1:00:20
finally but he has retired a few times yeah yeah no I was trying to I thr the
1:00:26
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1:00:31
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