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Will Kellen Moore's Offense Translate To New Orleans Saints? · AFR Saints

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  Speaker 1: get a couple meds with John Stinchcombe. He jumps aboard
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  Speaker 1: with us. Now, how are you, sir?
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  Speaker 2: Doing great? Hey?
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  Speaker 1: What points did you think? Okay? This is over during
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  Speaker 1: the game on Sunday night.
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  Speaker 2: Oh well, with any time, Patrick mahomes out there. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know if you feel super confident.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Now, once they started racking up and you're heading into
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  Speaker 2: half with that huge lead, and Kansas City didn't have
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  Speaker 2: any answers for the four man rush from Philly. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: by the second quarter you knew they had to do
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  Speaker 2: so thing to turn things around, and they weren't even close.
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  Speaker 2: So it was kind of eye opening, I think for
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  Speaker 2: everybody to see the way the game played out, But
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  Speaker 2: it also emphasizes the importance of the trenches in the
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  Speaker 2: game that has expanded as much as it has and
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  Speaker 2: featured these huge playmakers. If you can't protect him, if
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  Speaker 2: you can't protect your quarterback long enough to create opportunities,
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  Speaker 2: it doesn't make a whole lot of difference.
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  Speaker 1: Eagles d line was absolutely the difference. What was your
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  Speaker 1: impression watching Kellen Moore's offense?
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  Speaker 2: But all year long, I've been impressed with the fact
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  Speaker 2: that he was creating opportunities. One, I think they have
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  Speaker 2: the best offensive line in football. Two, they have the
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  Speaker 2: best running back, if not the best top two running
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  Speaker 2: back in all of National Football League. And he was
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  Speaker 2: able to kind of mix in opportunities to highlight what
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  Speaker 2: Jalen does really well without putting him in difficult situations.
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  Speaker 2: So that played itself out the entire playoffs and obviously
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  Speaker 2: in the Super Bowl yesterday. That highlights the way that
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  Speaker 2: you can scheme up defenses and utilize the talents that
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  Speaker 2: you have on offense, which you know they certainly have
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  Speaker 2: riches across the board there.
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  Speaker 1: So that's kind of a follow up. John say, it's
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  Speaker 1: so impressive to score forty in the Super Bowl and
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  Speaker 1: fifty five in the NFC Championship Game. But I look
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  Speaker 1: at it, go yeah, but they had, as you just said,
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  Speaker 1: the best offensive line in football. You had an incredible
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  Speaker 1: one two punch of receiver Dallas godd At a tight
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  Speaker 1: end got Saquon. So how much of the Eagles success
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  Speaker 1: do we attribute to Kellen Moore? How much is I
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  Speaker 1: mean that talent which is just incredible.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think anytime you have as much talent as
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  Speaker 2: Philly does, it'll make every offensive coordinator look good. But
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  Speaker 2: I do think it's a factor. We've seen talented teams
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  Speaker 2: that are underachieving, and that certainly wasn't the case for Philly.
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  Speaker 2: I think Kellen did a great job of highlighting players
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  Speaker 2: strength and utilizing them to their fullest. Just because you've
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  Speaker 2: got a talented roster, it does not always translate into
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  Speaker 2: a high level performance. You see that in All Star
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  Speaker 2: games all the time. We've seen that locally, where you know,
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  Speaker 2: you look at it on paper and you think, man,
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  Speaker 2: this it should be better than what it is. So yes,
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  Speaker 2: I think Philly's roster is arguably one of the best,
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  Speaker 2: if not the best, in all of the NFL. But
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  Speaker 2: you still have to do something with that, and Kellen
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  Speaker 2: Moore certainly put together a plan all season long to
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  Speaker 2: utilize and highlight the players that he had.
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  Speaker 1: How do you feel we're all assuming at this point,
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  Speaker 1: John He's going to be the Saints coach. I can't
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  Speaker 1: see any snag stopping that adition.
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  Speaker 2: Sure, let's hope that's a foregone PNM at.
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  Speaker 1: This point, right, right, I mean we've all spent two
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  Speaker 1: weeks saying it. I mean, it's got to be reality
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  Speaker 1: at this point. How do you think he'll do? Given
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  Speaker 1: these Every roster is different, right, but we can assume
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  Speaker 1: some pieces will be in place. How do you think
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  Speaker 1: he does coming in year one with the cast that
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  Speaker 1: they have assembled?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you'd have to hit realistic expectations. I
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  Speaker 2: think anytime you're building, which is where I think the
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  Speaker 2: Saints are, that's gonna take some time. I don't think
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  Speaker 2: fans want to hear here on some five or six
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  Speaker 2: year plan. I don't think those exist in the NFL
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  Speaker 2: at law. If you're projecting, it's a three year plan, right,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think that you're looking further out than that realistically.
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  Speaker 2: But roster wise, the Saints aren't where the top four
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  Speaker 2: six teams are in the NFL, so there is work
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  Speaker 2: to be done, but I do think they can be
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  Speaker 2: competitive as they build back into that space where they
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  Speaker 2: are competing for Super Bowls at the end of the year.
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  Speaker 1: I kind of broach the subject earlier, John, and we
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  Speaker 1: don't know what they're gonna do with Derek Carr, but
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  Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is set to be a free agent as well.
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  Speaker 1: If they're committed to saying like, okay, we're still all
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  Speaker 1: in to win. Now, do you make a play for
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  Speaker 1: a free agent Aaron Rodgers on a one year John,
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  Speaker 1: I'm kind of thinking of it in terms of what
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  Speaker 1: Minnesota did with Brett Farb after he went face. He
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  Speaker 1: faced planted with the Jets, went to Minnesota and you
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  Speaker 1: all played him in the NFC Championship game. He sort
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  Speaker 1: of revived himself.
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  Speaker 2: Well, he was also surrounded by that year the Vikings were,
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  Speaker 2: in my opinion, the best team in the NFL. So
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  Speaker 2: you put him with that much talent and sure, that's
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  Speaker 2: a revitalizer for any career. I don't foresee that for
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  Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers. I think, you know, I don't want to
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  Speaker 2: say I think it's fair to say that his best
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  Speaker 2: days are behind them.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, John Stin's going with us here for a couple
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  Speaker 1: more minutes. Former Saint Course Super Bowl champion Uh part
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  Speaker 1: of Super Bowl fifty nine. Also, John was watching guys
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  Speaker 1: like Zach Bond and Johnson Gardner, Johnson's former Saints get
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  Speaker 1: out there and go go get rings with their new team. John,
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  Speaker 1: how do you make peace with this? The two guys
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  Speaker 1: that are such impact guys. And we know Chauncey played
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  Speaker 1: well in New Orleans, I but Zach Bond could barely
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  Speaker 1: get on the field man, and now he's, you know,
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  Speaker 1: a Defensive Player of the Year candidate, Like, how do
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  Speaker 1: we make peace? Make sense of how this all played out?
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  Speaker 1: Where those guys got away and were so impactful elsewhere?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think more than anything, fans struggle with it
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  Speaker 2: because we project what might have been. With that said,
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  Speaker 2: I think Zach appreciate, appreciated the opportunity for a position
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  Speaker 2: change and be a part of a defense that might
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  Speaker 2: have been a better fit for his skill set. And
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  Speaker 2: I think that's important that sometimes gets lost and what
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  Speaker 2: a team's doing and what a player is skilled at
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  Speaker 2: those don't always mash And that's why we see some
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  Speaker 2: I sought after free agents. They end up in different
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  Speaker 2: locations and you're going by he just doesn't seem to
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  Speaker 2: be this same guy or doesn't reach that same level
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  Speaker 2: of production. And Zach is a great example of the
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  Speaker 2: mirror of that, where a player moves into a different
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  Speaker 2: system and it's a better fit for him. And I
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  Speaker 2: think anyone looks at it, you go, wow, that's frustrating
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  Speaker 2: for the Saints. But with that said, I think Pete
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  Speaker 2: Werner and do Mario Davis are are two of the
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  Speaker 2: best linebackers when healthy in the league. So there wasn't
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  Speaker 2: a lot of opportunity for Zach there. The ask was
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  Speaker 2: for him to fill a little bit of a different
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  Speaker 2: role with the Saints, and where the Eagles had opportunities,
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  Speaker 2: it fit obviously get what he can do really well,
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  Speaker 2: much better than his ask was in New Orleans.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a tough question because do you move to
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  Speaker 1: Mario Davis aside to put Zack baonn in. But if
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  Speaker 1: you asked that question today and you look at a
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  Speaker 1: guy in his twenties versus guy in his mid thirties,
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  Speaker 1: the answer might be a little different knowing what you
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  Speaker 1: know now, but again you don't know it at the time.
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  Speaker 2: So that's the beauty of being able to look back
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  Speaker 2: with twenty twenty, and it's certainly not the case in
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  Speaker 2: the moment. I mean you look at let's say you're
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  Speaker 2: Seattle back in the day and Jimmy Graham is putting
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  Speaker 2: up the numbers that he did in New Orleans. The
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  Speaker 2: expectation is that he could go to a new system
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  Speaker 2: and provide the same and did so for every guy
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  Speaker 2: that you see like Zach who moves into a new
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  Speaker 2: situation and a new role and thrives. I think there's
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  Speaker 2: plenty of examples of fits that weren't as friendly as
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  Speaker 2: what Zach found himself in.
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  Speaker 1: John, Before you go, what when do you think realistically,
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  Speaker 1: and you said, like long term, three year plan, But
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  Speaker 1: when do you think realistically the Saints are going to
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  Speaker 1: be able to compete again?
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's a good question. Yeah, They've got they've got
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  Speaker 2: a lot of work to do, and I think there
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  Speaker 2: were some missus in really in the draft and just
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  Speaker 2: development of players, and so there's some recovery that needs
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  Speaker 2: to take place and some replacement. And anytime you have
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  Speaker 2: a new coach come to town, obviously he's going to
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  Speaker 2: want to install and instill his system. So I don't
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  Speaker 2: think the New Orleans was super thrilled about their situation
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  Speaker 2: heading into two thousand and six, and we ended up
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  Speaker 2: playing for a NFC championship. So I think you can
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  Speaker 2: create an atmosphere in a locker room where guys don't
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  Speaker 2: understand where their ceiling should be and their synergy that
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  Speaker 2: they can create where they outperform what they should. So
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  Speaker 2: that would be my hope for New Orleans as they
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  Speaker 2: are in the process of building that character, that identity
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  Speaker 2: in the locker room matched with the skills that it
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  Speaker 2: takes to win Super Bowls. Realistically, I think that's closer
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  Speaker 2: to three years than one or two. He is.
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  Speaker 1: John Stinchcombe, super Bowl champion, former Saint Pro bowler. Always
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  Speaker 1: appreciate the chat. John, Thanks for taking a couple of mints, man.
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  Speaker 2: I appreciate you giving the time.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, it's our pleasure who det