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Set 1: The Giannis Sweepstakes (w/ Shams Charania) · Stugotz and Company

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that uh, Chuck Norris was chasing the Tyrannosaurus Rex.
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Speaker 2: The rex was not chasing the jeep. Murray, Murray, you there.
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Speaker 2: You love sandwiches. Huh, Let's go to uh eighty. He
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Speaker 2: was bo Wow, that's prime time baby. I had a
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Speaker 2: crush on Betty Rubble.
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Speaker 1: I honestly, until after the segment ended and we went
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Speaker 1: to commercial break, had no idea that Jonathan Coachman was black.
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Speaker 2: He caught them the game last night, although they won
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Speaker 2: the game.
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Speaker 1: You're listening just to Gotzon Company. Sean Sharania is joining
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Speaker 1: us from the NBA Finals. He's in San Antonio. As
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Speaker 1: he was telling us a funny story about a guy
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Speaker 1: who walked into his house.
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Speaker 3: A worker.
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Speaker 4: I believe we walked into your house on Wednesday night
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Speaker 4: for Game one. We had just a friend over, doesn't
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Speaker 4: know anything about basketball, really, just kind of hanging out,
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Speaker 4: having some dinner. And he looked at what At one
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Speaker 4: point when Sham's on the screen, I forget for what? Yeah,
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Speaker 4: and He's like that man's got a very nice face,
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Speaker 4: very handsome, and I'm like, okay, yeah, yeah, let's just
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Speaker 4: move on. We were talking about the symmetry of Sam's
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Speaker 4: face you will.
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Speaker 3: I appreciate the loaves.
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Speaker 1: I got to tell you, you do look jacked in
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Speaker 1: a way that I haven't seen you before.
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Speaker 5: You've been hitting the weight room, right, you do.
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Speaker 3: I'll take I'll take that. I mean, Stuve Gotts.
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Speaker 6: So I'm on my phone pretty pretty constantly, so I
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Speaker 6: need to find some time to do other things that like, but.
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Speaker 3: Still be on my phone.
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Speaker 6: And the one hour a day at least when I'm
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Speaker 6: at home I can spend at at the gym to
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Speaker 6: weightlift or do treadmill or whatever, bike or whatever like
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Speaker 6: that's usually my time where I can still be on
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Speaker 6: my phone. But I'm at least not like living this
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Speaker 6: sedentary lifestyle. I'm not doing any physical activity.
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Speaker 4: You've got that magnet on the back, so you can
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Speaker 4: just put it up on a machine while you're doing.
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Speaker 6: It and just that way, you know what, you know,
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Speaker 6: it's crazy and it's probably not good for my neck
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Speaker 6: and everything. I don't even use any of that, just
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Speaker 6: straight phone in my hand at all times.
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Speaker 3: Probably bad posture and all that.
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Speaker 4: So what is this time like for you? Obviously you're
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Speaker 4: at the finals, but you're obviously the newsgas or the
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Speaker 4: reporter guy, and so just wondering, you know, with the
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Speaker 4: draft coming up, free agency coming up, is that what
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Speaker 4: you essentially do there is just collect as much information
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Speaker 4: as possible.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean these are always great networking things, like
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Speaker 6: is he like even back in the day when Ice
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Speaker 6: to see you at finals in Miami, Like those finals,
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Speaker 6: these five like it's just a showcase of all kinds
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Speaker 6: of people, whether it's agents, it's team execs, it's industry people,
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Speaker 6: and so that's always great. But this time of year,
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Speaker 6: we're about, you know, twenty days now from the NBA Draft.
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Speaker 6: I have one eye on the NBA Draft, one eye
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Speaker 6: on on trades, and one eye on you know, on
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Speaker 6: on the on the finals. And so it's kind of
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Speaker 6: like you're you're you're balancing, you know, two different seasons.
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Speaker 6: One is my season being draft and free agency and trades,
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Speaker 6: and then the other being the actual NBA season. So
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Speaker 6: it's fun, it's uncovering the different angles that go on
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Speaker 6: at the NBA Finals and watching these these high level
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Speaker 6: of competitive games.
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Speaker 3: You hope, so, uh, it's exactely a balance.
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Speaker 1: Uh, Sean's when you reported because I'm certain it was
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Speaker 1: you when you reported that Jalen Brunson was going to
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Speaker 1: the next Did you ever, in your wildest imagination wild
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Speaker 1: because Kicks fans did not, did you ever think it
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Speaker 1: would turn into this?
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Speaker 3: No, I don't think anyone could have expected this.
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Speaker 6: I do think everyone expected the Knicks to give Jileen
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Speaker 6: Brunson the keys to the kingdom and basically make it
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Speaker 6: his picture. And you know, that was an opportunity that
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Speaker 6: at that point, I don't know how many organizations were
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Speaker 6: letting Jalen Brusson just be the guy and just give
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Speaker 6: him the ball. And I think that was a big
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Speaker 6: vocal point besides the money, you know, the four years,
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Speaker 6: one hundred and four million that he signed for. Beyond
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Speaker 6: just that, it was the fact that they were going
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Speaker 6: to make him the guy and the featured guy, the
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Speaker 6: leader of the captain, and his relationships ran deep with
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Speaker 6: the organization, from Leon Rose, who was his agent at
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Speaker 6: the time, to William Westley, who was a high level
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Speaker 6: executive here, and then right before his regency, the Knicks
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Speaker 6: ended up hiring his dad, Rick as a high level
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Speaker 6: lead assistant. And so the stars aligned, and I remember
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Speaker 6: I broke that, I believe a day, you know, the
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Speaker 6: morning of free agency, and at that point it violated
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Speaker 6: a bunch of rules the Knicks ended up getting I
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Speaker 6: think they got doctor second round pick for an early
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Speaker 6: agreement with a player because there were so many levels
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Speaker 6: of connections and connectivity with this organization in Brunson, and
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Speaker 6: it was a match made in heaven and no one
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Speaker 6: could have expected this.
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Speaker 3: But you have to give Jillen Brunts all the credit.
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Speaker 6: He's taken the mantle and he's made a championship contending situation.
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Speaker 5: Out of it.
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Speaker 4: I feel like they got to make a Brunts and
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Speaker 4: rule where if one of your parents is on the
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Speaker 4: staff of any team, you can talk early. Sound curious,
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Speaker 4: then I want to ask a couple of like potential
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Speaker 4: free agent stuff. But I want to ask you this
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Speaker 4: first so I can know which one which order to
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Speaker 4: do this.
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Speaker 5: When you're looking.
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Speaker 4: At this offseason, you're sort of triaging the main stories
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Speaker 4: that are going to come out. Is it Lebron top
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Speaker 4: of your radar? Is it Yanni's top of your radar?
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Speaker 4: Is it somebody that we don't know about top of
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Speaker 4: your radar?
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Speaker 6: Yeah, Yannis has been on the top of my radar
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Speaker 6: and everyone else in the NBA landscape's radar for now
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Speaker 6: thirteen months. I mean, this whole situation started May twenty
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Speaker 6: twenty five, when Giannis for the first time told the
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Speaker 6: Bucks he's ready to go to another team. He's ready
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Speaker 6: to look at his options which team he wants to
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Speaker 6: go to, and by the end of the summer in August,
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Speaker 6: he had made the decision that he wanted to play
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Speaker 6: for the New York Knicks, and so that's why that's
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Speaker 6: what led to the Bucks and Knicks engaging in conversation,
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Speaker 6: and that's what led to all this drama and all
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Speaker 6: this stuff that we saw play out of the course
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Speaker 6: of the season. And now I think everyone is at
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Speaker 6: the custover resolution. Not only did Jimmy has to make
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Speaker 6: it clear that there's gonna be a resolution before the
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Speaker 6: NBA Draft finally for the Bucks as an organization, but
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Speaker 6: you look at everything that's transpired.
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Speaker 3: The Bucks wanted to give this another go.
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Speaker 6: They gave this another chance, and Giannis has told them
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Speaker 6: for months now that he's ready to move on. That stance,
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Speaker 6: according to my sources, has not changed the slightest bit,
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Speaker 6: and so in the inevitability of a trade, it obviously
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Speaker 6: looms now on the horizon. So I think that's top
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Speaker 6: of mind. But Lebron James anytime he's on the board
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Speaker 6: as a free agent free agent. This isn't a situation
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Speaker 6: where he's got an option. He's an outright free agent
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Speaker 6: coming up in the next couple of weeks, and so
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Speaker 6: his future, you know, all indications are he's gonna play
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Speaker 6: another season in the NBA. All indications are that the
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Speaker 6: Lakers want him back, and I think there's an expectation
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Speaker 6: that he will have an interesting potentially being back. But
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Speaker 6: what does that look like from a contractual perspective? What
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Speaker 6: does that look like from their conversations. They're gonna have
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Speaker 6: to have conversations after the NBA Finals and to figure
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Speaker 6: out what that partnership will look like again.
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Speaker 3: And if not, then where does he go? So I
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Speaker 3: think those are.
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Speaker 6: Two definitely top of mind, and there's gonna be a
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Speaker 6: bunch of other situations. Houston loses in the first round,
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Speaker 6: what do they do this offseason? Boston loses in the
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Speaker 6: first round after a three to one lead. What do
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Speaker 6: they do with guy that Jalen Brown, Derek White, other
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Speaker 6: players that are up for big money extensions either this
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Speaker 6: summer summers to come, you know, New Orleans, what do
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Speaker 6: they do with several players on their roster, whether it's
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Speaker 6: the Zion Winson or Trey Murphy of Herb Jones. You know,
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Speaker 6: then there's a bunch of teams like Miami, Olden State, Minnesota, uh,
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Speaker 6: that have to make moves, that want to make moves
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Speaker 6: to better their team.
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Speaker 3: So I tried to rattle off just a few of
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Speaker 3: the Yeah, my.
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Speaker 1: Brain, everyone trying to keep up with the next It
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Speaker 1: just feels like you're you're so good at this that
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Speaker 1: it's just like I'm not putting any order of things,
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Speaker 1: like if it happens, it happens, and I'm going to
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Speaker 1: report that thing.
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Speaker 4: But uh, all right, So in that case, Yannis reports
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Speaker 4: not coming from you, just rumored reports. You hear the Celtics,
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Speaker 4: you hear the Miami Heat, you hear even the Portland
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Speaker 4: Trailblazers recently for those three No where is he.
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Speaker 5: Wants them to go? But what do you hear.
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Speaker 3: These people?
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Speaker 6: Yeah, these people have been on me right for just
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Speaker 6: doing the job for thirteen months, and now I'm not
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Speaker 6: saying anything.
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Speaker 5: Right.
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Speaker 3: You see how that works? Right?
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Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, I see how it works.
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Speaker 1: How'd you deal with the blowback about reporting SGA won
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Speaker 1: the MVP?
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Speaker 3: I mean, I mean for me.
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Speaker 5: I don't.
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Speaker 3: I don't really view it as as that. I just
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Speaker 3: people can say whatever they want.
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Speaker 6: I just just what I have to do is I
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Speaker 6: need to just do the job. I need to be
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Speaker 6: able to go to sleep at night knowing that I
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Speaker 6: do the job of the best of my ability.
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Speaker 3: I was respons while I was fair.
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Speaker 6: So as long as I'm doing that, people, you know,
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Speaker 6: I find it funny. Like you, you laugh at some
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Speaker 6: of the commentary. You have fun with it.
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Speaker 5: I don't.
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Speaker 3: I try not to take anything really that serious, right.
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Speaker 6: But I think your question being around gi honest, right,
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Speaker 6: and like what what the dynamics are on that are right?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, just like the teams and what they're thinking are
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Speaker 4: going into it.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 6: So I reported at the NBA trade deadline it was Miami, Minnesota,
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Speaker 6: Golden State, Miami, Minnesota, Golden State. Who am I leaving out?
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Speaker 6: I know I'm leaving one now. No, Boston definitely had interest,
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Speaker 6: Cleveland had interest. But at the deadline, I remember, now.
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Speaker 3: We can we can play the game.
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Speaker 5: Yea deadline question. Let's see, he's looking it up right now,
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Speaker 5: just so people, Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I'm looking it up. Yeah, So I said, yeah, he
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Speaker 3: wolves Nicks, Warriors.
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Speaker 6: Those were the y honest teams at the deadline, and
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Speaker 6: then there were a few other teams at the periphery, Lakers, Cleveland,
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Speaker 6: Boston that had interest. They discussed concepts, but nothing really
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Speaker 6: rose to the level as those other teams.
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Speaker 3: Knicks kind of trailed off.
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Speaker 6: It was really at the end, it was Miami, it
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Speaker 6: was Minnesota, and it was Golden State. Golden State obviously
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Speaker 6: offering four first round picks, Miami offering a slew of
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Speaker 6: I reported Tyler Heroklill where other rotation.
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Speaker 3: Players, multiple draft picks, multiple swaps.
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Speaker 6: And then Minnesota made an offer as well, including draft picks,
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Speaker 6: and they had players as well.
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Speaker 3: You think a guy like.
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Speaker 6: Jaden mcgaanal is how valuable he could be in a
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Speaker 6: potential trade. So and I reported it near the end
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Speaker 6: of the season, I did my Bucks piece. All those
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Speaker 6: same teams you expect to be back in the mix,
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Speaker 6: and I think that's what the Bucks are shifting through,
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Speaker 6: is the level of interest from these teams. But the
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Speaker 6: big question, of course that's going to come into play
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Speaker 6: is which teams does Yiannis want to give that long
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Speaker 6: term commitm too right, because he's got one year left
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Speaker 6: on his deal. And if a team is going to
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Speaker 6: give up in the second apron this collective bargain me
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Speaker 6: airing era, the team is going to give up three
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Speaker 6: four five first round draft picks, two three rotation high
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Speaker 6: level players swaps as well in the trade for Giannis.
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Speaker 6: You better believe and hope that he's going to be invested,
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Speaker 6: He's going to be motivated, he's going to be committed,
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Speaker 6: and he's going to want to be their long term.
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Speaker 6: Otherwise it just completely shrinks your window and really really
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Speaker 6: depletes your ability to build a sustainable winner. And so
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Speaker 6: I think that's what Milwaukee's trying to figure out, is
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Speaker 6: which teams is Giannis you know on the back channel,
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Speaker 6: which team is he willing to go to? And you know,
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Speaker 6: this has not been a process that's been I think
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Speaker 6: played out in the public because that's just not how
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Speaker 6: Yiannis has been throughout the course of his career. I
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Speaker 6: don't expect it it'll get to that point, Like I
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Speaker 6: haven't heard it get to that point. Yeah, but I
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Speaker 6: know that's these are all the things that are playing
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Speaker 6: out behind the scenes.
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Speaker 4: So do you know I think that a team or
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Speaker 4: might try to pull a MASSI U Juri and get
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Speaker 4: like a Kawhi for one year try to win the
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Speaker 4: championship because of how much? Because like if you go
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Speaker 4: back and look at that trade for Kawhi, it was Demarko,
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Speaker 4: Jacob Pearle.
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Speaker 6: And a first strong pick, right, Like I think, like
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Speaker 6: let's say let's say Portland for.
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Speaker 3: Example, Right, I'm.
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Speaker 6: Pretty sure that Portland would do a couple of players,
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Speaker 6: you know, starters and a first sung pick for Yiannis
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Speaker 6: no matter the risk reward, right, you just you just
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Speaker 6: go get y honest. Yeah, but the price is not
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Speaker 6: going to be that this goal around, Like, it's not
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Speaker 6: gonna be a couple of rotation players in a first
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Speaker 6: strong pick. And so knowing that, I think the market
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Speaker 6: has changed itself, right, Like I think Ad is a
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Speaker 6: great example. When Ad was up up for trade in
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Speaker 6: twenty nineteen that summer, he hands up with the Lakers.
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Speaker 3: They got a haul.
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Speaker 6: The Pelicans did get all Lonzo Ball, brandon Ingram Josh Hart.
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Speaker 3: Think they got a few first few swaps.
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Speaker 6: Like that's really what you're looking at if you're trading
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Speaker 6: for a guy.
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Speaker 4: Like so you mentioned a couple of these teams earlier,
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Speaker 4: but I was curious of from what you've learned these teams, Houston, Denver, OKC,
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Speaker 4: and Cleveland. Of those four, which one do you think
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Speaker 4: we're going to significantly look different next year potentially or
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Speaker 4: make a significant move.
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Speaker 6: Denver jumps off just from the beginning, the way they
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Speaker 6: lost in that first round, the way they you know,
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Speaker 6: I think their roster and their salaries are set up,
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Speaker 6: and the fact that their owner, Josh Conkor is very adamant.
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Speaker 6: It's Nikola Jokic and everything else is on the table.
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Speaker 3: So like, realistically, do I think they trade Jamal Murray?
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Speaker 6: I would lean no, But then you think about God
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Speaker 6: that Cam Johnson, You think about Aaron Gordon. I think
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Speaker 6: that's who everyone around the league is keeping an eye on.
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Speaker 6: But I think Cleveland's gonna be opportunistic. We don't know
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Speaker 6: still what Oklahoma City is going to do. Sam Presty,
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Speaker 6: that organization is going to be very methodical, very diligent
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Speaker 6: about the process.
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Speaker 3: I think you might have mentioned one other team in that.
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Speaker 4: I mentioned Cleveland and Houston.
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Speaker 6: Houston, I think, you know, when you look at that roster,
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Speaker 6: you think about Men Thompson.
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Speaker 3: You know, that's really the untouchable that they have had
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Speaker 3: over the course of the last year or two.
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Speaker 6: So from there, like what can you go get what
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Speaker 6: other star player is sensible for you?
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Speaker 3: And I don't think they have the answer quite yet.
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Speaker 6: And they could just run that team back because they
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Speaker 6: were down Fred VanVleet, they were down Steven Adams most.
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Speaker 3: Of the season pretty much the whole season injury.
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Speaker 6: And so not having those two key veterans, I think also,
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Speaker 6: you know, it gives you some reason to if you
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Speaker 6: want to roll it back, you feel like you have
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Speaker 6: a couple of big time bets that you can side
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Speaker 6: right in.
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Speaker 1: I'm going to ask this in a very delicate way
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Speaker 1: because your news is to get the news and then
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Speaker 1: report the news. But I am wondering because you are
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Speaker 1: a fan. I'm just wondering if you've ever received news
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Speaker 1: and you had to do like a double take because
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Speaker 1: you didn't believe it was true. And if so, was
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Speaker 1: Michale Bridges an example of that five Verst Lucas probably
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Speaker 1: up there.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think Luca definitely takes that for me. But
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Speaker 6: I mean, there was one that happened at the deadline
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Speaker 6: this year, ad getting traded to the Wizards.
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Speaker 3: I remember when I heard that, I was like, what like,
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Speaker 3: I was stunned.
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Speaker 6: Because and and and and and I think like people
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Speaker 6: in people in some of those circles around a d
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Speaker 6: I think they were stunned too, the fact that the
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Speaker 6: Wizards would make a.
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Speaker 3: Play like that at the time they did it.
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Speaker 6: The price they got him for obviously they got you know, uh,
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Speaker 6: Dallas did end up with a few couple first shound
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Speaker 6: picks and and and other assets, but that was really
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Speaker 6: just to wash the money away, right and give it
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Speaker 6: to Washington and be able to clean your books, and
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Speaker 6: so the way it happened definitely that that was probably
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Speaker 6: the last time I was like wow, like that's that's insane.
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Speaker 3: But Luca, that's that's another strategy for sure.
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Speaker 1: I was like wow when someone sent me, sham just
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Speaker 1: report the McHale Bridges going to the next for five
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Speaker 1: first round picks.
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Speaker 4: It's like, there's got to be a type of that
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Speaker 4: was like two right, and I hope it is go ahead.
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Speaker 4: Just the thing for me from some of these teams
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Speaker 4: that you know, didn't make the playoffs but still have
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Speaker 4: potential to make moves. I think of teams like Dallas.
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Speaker 4: I think it's teams like New Orleans or you know,
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Speaker 4: obviously you got the Grizzlies and even the Bulls out there.
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Speaker 4: When you're thinking about the potential of hey, maybe we're
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Speaker 4: working away from tanking. Do you see you hear any
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Speaker 4: of these teams that you know, people haven't really expected
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Speaker 4: much from trying to make some big moves this offseason.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I mean, I think I think the
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Speaker 6: new three to two one lottery has made it to
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Speaker 6: where there's two things. Now there's two things the NBA
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Speaker 6: has completely eliminated. One, you can't just outright want to
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Speaker 6: lose games. You just literally can't. You can't go into
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Speaker 6: a seat and say we are tanking because you don't
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Speaker 6: want to be at the bottom three because then you're
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Speaker 6: in the relegation zone. And you literally can't afford to
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Speaker 6: have your fan base and your franchise go through complete
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Speaker 6: losing on purpose to.
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Speaker 3: Be able to get any top pick because you're not guaranteed.
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Speaker 6: That top pick at all. So that's eliminated. And the
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Speaker 6: other thing that's eliminated is this jocking for positioning. So
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Speaker 6: like what we've seen the last couple of years, Utah
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Speaker 6: has had top whatever six for eight protected pick. Washington's
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Speaker 6: had top eight six protected picks over the last couple
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Speaker 6: of years, and you jockey to get to like top four,
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Speaker 6: top bottom four, bottom five, so you make sure you
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Speaker 6: keep that pick. Well, you can't do that anymore, at
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Speaker 6: least guarantee that for yourself, because it's flat and dods.
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Speaker 6: So even if you finish with the fifth sixth worst record,
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Speaker 6: you could still end up back in the lottery and
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Speaker 6: then lose that pick.
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Speaker 3: So I do think that going into it. So you
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Speaker 3: think about a team.
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Speaker 6: Like Sacramento or a Memphis, You're gonna want to be competitive,
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Speaker 6: and that's where I look at a guy like John Moran.
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Speaker 6: So if you're Memphis, you're still trying to win. You
16:41
Speaker 6: still have John Moran for multiple years left on his deal.
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Speaker 6: Do you keep him or do you trade him to
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Speaker 6: a team like Sacramento or another team that might also
16:48
Speaker 6: be in that rebuilding type threshold.
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Speaker 3: So this three two one.
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Speaker 6: Lottery, I think is gonna have a lot of unintended
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Speaker 6: consequences moving forward, and I think a lot of randomness
16:56
Speaker 6: with the lottery as well.
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Speaker 1: All Right, a couple of quick ones. We'll get you
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Speaker 1: out of here, because we know you're busy. We appreciate
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Speaker 1: the time. I don't need to be in New York
17:03
Speaker 1: to know what's going on there. I know they're excited,
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Speaker 1: you're in San Antonio. What's the feeling in San Antonio
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Speaker 1: right now? Are they're desperate?
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Speaker 6: They said, yeah, I mean I think, first of all,
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Speaker 6: it's very hot here, Steve Gott, Yes, it's burning. You know,
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Speaker 6: maybe that's you know, that's it's all out of Texas
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Speaker 6: thing comes June in July.
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Speaker 3: But it's hot as hell. And no, I mean even
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Speaker 3: the off day, like I got.
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Speaker 6: Here Tuesday and fans were in the streets honking, you know,
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Speaker 6: all over all over San Antonio downtown and I haven't
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Speaker 6: heard much honking today.
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Speaker 3: So maybe you know, they gotta they gotta.
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Speaker 6: Get to the But you know, I'll be I'll be
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Speaker 6: somewhere for dinner tonight, and I'm sure i'll hear it
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Speaker 6: in the streets.
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Speaker 3: But I think I think tomorrow will be It'll be
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Speaker 3: very lively.
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Speaker 5: All right.
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Speaker 1: Steven A, who I know you love and respect, but
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Speaker 1: I'm wondering, and I do too. I love that man,
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Speaker 1: But how impossible is steven A to be with right now?
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Speaker 3: You know?
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Speaker 6: I think I take I take great pride in being
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Speaker 6: able to handle and Navi gains the conversation with Steven
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Speaker 6: no matter if he's in his Knicks fandom or not
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Speaker 6: in his Knicks fandom. We did a TikTok live yesterday
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Speaker 6: meet him and Shnegomackay and we had a lot of
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Speaker 6: fun with him. He just posted a video of him
18:10
Speaker 6: shirtless today on First Take.
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Speaker 5: So, no.
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Speaker 3: Guy, this guy is just breaking all barriers. So do
18:17
Speaker 3: you agree that here for it?
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Speaker 1: Do you agree that Steven A deserves some degree of
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Speaker 1: credit for the next being in the NBA Finals?
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Speaker 3: I saw he said that. I'm not I don't know
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Speaker 3: if I would give him credit, but I do think, Like, listen,
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Speaker 3: his voice is so loud.
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Speaker 6: I'm sure everyone in New York listens to what Stephen
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Speaker 6: A Is saying.
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Speaker 4: Johns are just so say this out the door. Thank
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Speaker 4: you for providing actual like information and stuff, even though
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Speaker 4: you're not giving opinions, you know what I mean. Like
18:44
Speaker 4: this job, they can't really say anything, so they just
18:46
Speaker 4: don't say anything. But you actually say stuff without compromising.
18:49
Speaker 4: And I've tried to teach him. Just going back to
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Speaker 4: the SGA stuff in the MVP, just laugh at it.
18:54
Speaker 4: Who cares about the comments? You did your job, and
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Speaker 4: you did it well, like that.
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Speaker 5: Is the job. The job is to get the news
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Speaker 5: before anyone else does.
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Speaker 1: And he did it, and he got yelled at, we'll
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Speaker 1: stay away from that last thing. On the way out.
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Speaker 1: Your fantasy baseball team, How are we doing? Or are
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Speaker 1: you too busy for it? What's going on?
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Speaker 6: No, I told you to go. I haven't played fantasy
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Speaker 6: baseball since like maybe sophomore.
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Speaker 3: Junior or of high school. I had to quit.
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Speaker 6: I had a great team, you know, we started out
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Speaker 6: in seventh grade with my friends. Yeah, had to had
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Speaker 6: to had to hang it up, man, you know, but
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Speaker 6: I took a lot. I still remember my roster, you know,
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Speaker 6: like Brian McCann was my catcher. Evan Longoria was my
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Speaker 6: third basement.
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Speaker 1: Wow, this is your last fantasy baseball roster right now
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Speaker 1: that you're going.
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Speaker 3: Roy was my pitcher the TP. No.
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Speaker 6: I mean I took great pride in that. Curtis Branderson
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Speaker 6: I used to have it, used to be great thirty
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Speaker 6: thirty machine.
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Speaker 3: I used to take it sit.
19:52
Speaker 6: I used to love Evan Longoria's swing, like I don't
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Speaker 6: know how much you guys watch it, like you just
19:57
Speaker 6: do this and then.
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Speaker 3: He just like chick.
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Speaker 6: He was very relationships there, yeah, rock and then he
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Speaker 6: would just smoke it. So yes, yeah, I used to
20:04
Speaker 6: be a big Evan Longoria Fani.
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Speaker 3: We used to play woffle ball.
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Speaker 6: Used to just like imitate his swing, the most chill, calm,
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Speaker 6: powerful swing I've seen.
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Speaker 5: So it may now listen. I know this goes back
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Speaker 5: to but it makes me sad that you.
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Speaker 1: Have no time for fantasy sports anymore or baseball, because
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Speaker 1: you love sports.
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Speaker 6: I know you do, yes, in another world, you know,
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Speaker 6: I always say, stutt, I need to clone myself. I
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Speaker 6: need to clone myself for fantasy baseball, for relationships, for
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Speaker 6: friendships like I just need clones.
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Speaker 3: I need like five of me.
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Speaker 1: Yes, but I'm concerned. I've been telling you for a while.
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Speaker 1: Now dial it back so you can have some sort
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Speaker 1: of life. Man, don't let this be your life.
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Speaker 3: Don't no, I'm in it.
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Speaker 4: You've never talked to the original version of shots here
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Speaker 4: before you start multiplaying yourself, all right, then enjoy your
20:44
Speaker 4: time the rest of your time.
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Speaker 3: Appreciate you, guys.
20:47
Speaker 5: It's San Antonio and the rest of the NBA Finals.
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Speaker 1: He's all over esp heads coverage and if any news breaks,
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Speaker 1: it's coming from him. Uh, Sham's. We appreciate the time
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Speaker 1: as always. Man, we'll talk to you soon.
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Speaker 3: Steve Gott did appreciate you guys, Thank you Day one ers.
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Speaker 3: Appreciate y'all got.
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Speaker 5: Me, you got it. But thank you.
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Speaker 3: But