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Dawn of the DEI Execution and Why the Jobs Data is Better Than You Think · The Alex Marlow Show

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  Speaker 1: It's the Alex Marlowe Show. It's the Alex Marlowe Show.
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  Speaker 1: put the pieces back together on that one. Plus, Trump
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  Speaker 1: is pretty amusing. And I've got a treat for you
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  Speaker 1: at the end of the show. We're going to talk
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  Speaker 1: to Todd Nettleton, who is with a group called Voice
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  Speaker 1: of the Martyrs. He has a radio show. He's also
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  Speaker 1: got a book. And this is an individual who literally
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  Speaker 1: goes around the world and speaks in interviews to persecuted Christians.
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  Speaker 1: And he's learned so much. He speaks to such interesting people.
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  Speaker 1: And this is uplifting. It's also kind of shocking in
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  Speaker 1: a lot of ways. But we'll have a longer form
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  Speaker 1: interview with him on the Marlowe Show podcast, which I
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  Speaker 1: highly recommend. I have laid out about, I would say,
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  Speaker 1: eight or nine interviews exclusive that are going to be
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  Speaker 1: airing over the next few days. A lot of them
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  Speaker 1: with faith leaders, as it turns out. That's sort of
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  Speaker 1: the theme that I'm on right now. But so many
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  Speaker 1: top voices come through the podcast feed that I just
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  Speaker 1: can't incorporate in the live show. But I try to
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  Speaker 1: share some of them as part of the live show,
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  Speaker 1: particularly towards the end. We do that today a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: It will give you a taste of that interview. But
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  Speaker 1: let's start with jobs numbers because it is Jobs Day
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  Speaker 1: in America for those who celebrate. And we saw a
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  Speaker 1: gain of 29,000, which is fine because, remember, the break-even
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  Speaker 1: rate in the jobs market is supposed to be pretty
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  Speaker 1: low because, again, we reset the economy. So those numbers
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  Speaker 1: that you're used to seeing, $ 100, 000, $ 200, 000, a lot of
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  Speaker 1: those numbers were very low-wage things. A lot of them
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  Speaker 1: are migrant work. A lot of it was seasonal work.
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  Speaker 1: And we've kind of reset the economy. So most of
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  Speaker 1: the jobs that are starting and stopping are actually higher-paid jobs.
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  Speaker 1: They're a little classier, if you want to use a
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  Speaker 1: Trump expression. And with immigration enforcement slowing down, labor force growth,
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  Speaker 1: so the growth of the whole labor force is not
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  Speaker 1: growing nearly as much. The number of jobs needed each
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  Speaker 1: month to keep unemployment basically steady is close to zero.
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  Speaker 1: So this month we saw unemployment kick up. I think
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  Speaker 1: it was a touch to 4.2%. Payrolls, yeah. So the
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  Speaker 1: payrolls fell from 4.4% to 4.2%. And this is something
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  Speaker 1: that is just fine. It's just about average, a little
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  Speaker 1: bit below average, but it's not a bad thing. And
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  Speaker 1: in fact, the stock market kind of loved it, which
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  Speaker 1: is a noteworthy thing. I'll get to that in a moment.
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  Speaker 1: But if the economy needed 150,000 jobs to keep up,
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  Speaker 1: unemployment would have risen sharply. So you see that? So
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  Speaker 1: unemployment basically flat. So it's between 4.1% and 4.3% since March.
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  Speaker 1: That is stability. So even if it takes up a
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  Speaker 1: tenth of a percent or not, notice the stability. This
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  Speaker 1: is the most stable jobs market of the century. And
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  Speaker 1: it is something that you will probably not hear even
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  Speaker 1: any Republicans tout in this election month that we're in
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  Speaker 1: right now. So private payrolls were up 46%. 6,000, which
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  Speaker 1: is good, which means that the government firing another 17,000 people.
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  Speaker 1: So a net drop in government employment, 70,000, that is
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  Speaker 1: a good thing. We want that to happen. We don't
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  Speaker 1: want all these permanent jobs on monorails that go nowhere
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  Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. We don't want all that stuff happening.
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  Speaker 1: We want government people fired. And this is an interesting
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  Speaker 1: thing because we had a great event for our Breitbart
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  Speaker 1: Fight Club members. I don't tout this enough, guys. Every
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  Speaker 1: day I work on exclusive content for our Breitbart subscribers.
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  Speaker 1: We have a program called the Fight Club. You get
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  Speaker 1: not only ad-free Breitbart content, but you get additional things,
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  Speaker 1: and some of the things are some of the best
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  Speaker 1: stuff we do. Yesterday, we had a roundtable where our
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  Speaker 1: audience got to interact with Senator Bernie Marino. He was
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  Speaker 1: with us for about an hour, and he's fielding audience questions.
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  Speaker 1: I got to share with him, because he's an Ohioan,
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  Speaker 1: that my children are actually descendants of the Wright brothers,
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  Speaker 1: which is super cool. For me, as my wife's side
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  Speaker 1: of the family, I have nothing to do with it,
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  Speaker 1: but my mother's my i'm sorry my mother-in-law's mothers made
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  Speaker 1: a name was right they're part of the right family
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  Speaker 1: the right brother family so my boys have that heritage
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  Speaker 1: and that lineage so we're into the right brothers in
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  Speaker 1: the marlo household and from their concept to we're going
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  Speaker 1: to they were bicycle guys they were they were bike
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  Speaker 1: guys they're like jack smith they love their huffies they
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  Speaker 1: love their schwinn's this is pre-huffing schwinn making a joke
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  Speaker 1: but the point is these guys were bicycle engineers And
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  Speaker 1: they had this idea, we're actually going to fly a plane.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to build and fly an airplane. We're going
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  Speaker 1: to have manned aviation. And of course, everyone thought this
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  Speaker 1: is absurd. That'll never happen. You'll never be able to
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  Speaker 1: do it. But from that initial concept to when the
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  Speaker 1: plane was in the air was four and a half years.
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  Speaker 1: So them embarrassing themselves and we're doing this. We bike
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  Speaker 1: guys are going to put a plane in the sky
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  Speaker 1: four and a half years. We are now going to
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  Speaker 1: move into eight years of a monorail around an airport
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  Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. Why is that, ladies and gentlemen? It
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  Speaker 1: is because it's a government jobs program. That's why. So
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  Speaker 1: when you see the Trump administration blowing out 17,000 government
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  Speaker 1: employees in a given month, that is a positive. So
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  Speaker 1: the labor force grew. Labor force participation rose a little bit,
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  Speaker 1: which is good. So household survey showed that employment was
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  Speaker 1: up from 61.6% to 61.8%. So the unemployed number rose.
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  Speaker 1: People coming back into the labor force for the first time,
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  Speaker 1: job seekers. So people who are applying for jobs and
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  Speaker 1: didn't get them. So that rose a little bit. But
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  Speaker 1: all of this, the job losers fell by 45,000, 3.2 million.
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  Speaker 1: And permanent job losers also declined. The rise of unemployment
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  Speaker 1: does not reflect a wave of layoffs. So that's important.
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  Speaker 1: So there's no signs of inflationary pressure. So the Fed
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  Speaker 1: does not have to raise rates right now. And maybe
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  Speaker 1: even the stock market, reacting the way it did. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: this is a sign that we could see rates even
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  Speaker 1: go down soon. Probably not this year, to be honest,
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  Speaker 1: but who knows? That's what we want. So average hourly
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  Speaker 1: earnings up 0.1%. So they're now up 3.0% from a
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  Speaker 1: year ago. So remember this, another thing Republicans are not
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  Speaker 1: pointing out that average hourly earnings are up big league 3%
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  Speaker 1: from a year ago. And that is consistent with 2.2% inflation.
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  Speaker 1: that was factored into those calculations. So, all right. So
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  Speaker 1: I can give you more on that, but we'll have
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  Speaker 1: all that Breitbart.com plus for the Fight Club members. I'll
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  Speaker 1: do a deep dive with John Carney on this. But
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  Speaker 1: it reminds you of how the Republicans have opportunities to
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  Speaker 1: message on what they're doing for Americans. And the Democrats can't.
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  Speaker 1: They really can't. And a lot of this does have
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  Speaker 1: to do with migration. The vice president spoke with Jack Posobiec,
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  Speaker 1: who I'm friendly with, who works at Real America's Voice
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  Speaker 1: in his podcast and is very prominent online, comes on
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  Speaker 1: the podcast, my podcast from time to time. He sat
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  Speaker 1: down in Air Force Two with Jack, and he talked
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  Speaker 1: about one of the most important things in the America
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  Speaker 1: First economic agenda, and that is H-1B reform. Play cut eight, please, guys. $ 45, 000.
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  Speaker 2: A year to replace an accountant who's an American making
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  Speaker 2: $ 60, 000 a year. That's not you using the program to
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  Speaker 2: bring in a genius. That's you destroying American jobs and defrauding.
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  Speaker 1: The American people.
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  Speaker 2: My view is the H-1B program is completely broken, and
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  Speaker 2: I'd be very supportive of.
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  Speaker 1: Just eliminating it.
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  Speaker 2: But while we have it, what we have to do
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  Speaker 2: is protect American workers.
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  Speaker 1: So that's so relevant and so right on, and this
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  Speaker 1: explains a lot of the numbers, is that we are
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  Speaker 1: shifting the H-1B program to a way for employers to
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  Speaker 1: import cheap labor to a way to get maybe excellent
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  Speaker 1: people who are really committed to the American system and
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  Speaker 1: are going to pay well into the tax base and
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  Speaker 1: are going to assimilate and acculturate to American culture and
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  Speaker 1: really truly want to be here and are willing to
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  Speaker 1: pay for it. That's the sort of thing that the
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  Speaker 1: program should be used for. It should not be used
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  Speaker 1: for stockholders and shareholders to increase their shareholder value by
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  Speaker 1: diminishing the wages of Americans. And that's how it was
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  Speaker 1: used by Democrats and Republicans for decades. And it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: until Trump came down that escalator that we really started
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  Speaker 1: having national discussion about this. This is something that's been
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  Speaker 1: important to us for a long time. And so when
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  Speaker 1: you see this stuff and when you see these great numbers,
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  Speaker 1: these are great numbers. Maybe the total jobs gains was
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  Speaker 1: not as high as we've been accustomed to seeing. But
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  Speaker 1: when you see the government employees getting blown out, when
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  Speaker 1: you see wages going up, You also see something that's
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  Speaker 1: interesting in some of these numbers is that with the
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  Speaker 1: given quits rate, it shares with you that there is
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  Speaker 1: not upwardly inflational pressure on wages. Wages are stable because
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  Speaker 1: when unemployment is stable and wages are not rising at
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  Speaker 1: a very quick rate, none of this is going to
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  Speaker 1: be inflationary. And that all shows that we've gotten a
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  Speaker 1: lot of this stuff reasonably under control. Again, a story
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  Speaker 1: that it's on Republicans to tell this. The bottom line
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  Speaker 1: is things are up about a third. Prices are up
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  Speaker 1: about a third over the last six years. So the
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  Speaker 1: analogy would be you get a pound of ground beef
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  Speaker 1: at the store. It's probably about up a third over
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  Speaker 1: six years. And the problem is that 80% of this
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  Speaker 1: was done under Joe Biden. And right now, Donald Trump
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  Speaker 1: and the Republicans are getting all the blame for it.
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  Speaker 1: And it's not true. And some of it does have
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  Speaker 1: to do with the Iran war. And it's on them
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  Speaker 1: to convince people that Iran was going to get a
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  Speaker 1: nuke and would have used it. And if they can't
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  Speaker 1: make that case, then it's going to be a problem
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  Speaker 1: for them. But overall– The Bidenflation is still what dogs us.
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  Speaker 1: It's not the Trump economy. The Trump economy is pretty
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  Speaker 1: dang solid. And another day, we're in more good news
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  Speaker 1: than bad. We're going to take a break. We're going
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  Speaker 1: to get into some of the crazy stuff the left
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  Speaker 1: All right, back of business here. I keep hearing all
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  Speaker 1: of these media reports saying that the jobs report was weak.
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  Speaker 1: They're not getting it. They're not getting it. The unemployment
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  Speaker 1: kicked up because more people are reentering the workforce. We
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  Speaker 1: post decent job growth. We have a very stable job market.
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  Speaker 1: Markets are reacting very positively to this news. We've got
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  Speaker 1: oil coming down again as we are now at apparently 98%
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  Speaker 1: capacity flowing through the Strait of Hormuz with oil And
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  Speaker 1: we're not telling the story well. And this will be
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  Speaker 1: the story of the election. And some of it's on
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  Speaker 1: the president, but he can't just be a one-man wrecking
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  Speaker 1: crew on this. It's that the conservative media and the
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  Speaker 1: politicians need to explain truly what's going on in this country.
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  Speaker 1: And things are just not nearly as bad as people
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  Speaker 1: are feeling. And I think a lot of people are
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  Speaker 1: changing their mind substantially on a fair number of stories.
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  Speaker 1: And I'll share some of those with you. But you've
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  Speaker 1: got to look at some of these root causes. There's
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  Speaker 1: crazy stuff happening out here in LA where all of
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  Speaker 1: a sudden we've normalized the all these often unsanitary street
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  Speaker 1: vendors that are allowed to just pitch their tent on
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  Speaker 1: the side of the road and just start serving food
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  Speaker 1: and is putting normal businesses, taxpaying businesses, businesses that have
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  Speaker 1: been established brick-and-mortar companies for years, putting them out of business.
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  Speaker 1: There's a Fox 11 report on a backlash that's taking
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  Speaker 1: place in the Hispanic community where Hispanic business owners are
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  Speaker 1: very upset about illegal street taco vendors that might be
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  Speaker 1: legal now under the new rules. Play Cut 17, guys.
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  Speaker 3: Stinky old woman, I'm going to call ICE. That's the
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  Speaker 3: insult and threat made by Francesca Ortega to a street
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  Speaker 3: vendor in Santa Clarita earlier this week. There were other
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  Speaker 3: insults as well. Francesca told us on the phone she
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  Speaker 3: doesn't want Santa Clarita to turn into Mexico.
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  Speaker 4: The valley didn't used to look like this 30, 40
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  Speaker 4: years ago.
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  Speaker 1: Look at how LA looks. Look at how Santa Monica looks.
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  Speaker 4: It's been getting worse and worse because nobody does anything.
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  Speaker 3: The video of Francesca confronting the taco vendors went viral.
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  Speaker 3: And suddenly, she was flooded with angry messages from people
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  Speaker 3: across the country.
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  Speaker 1: So if you're watching, that's my FedEx, that sign right there.
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  Speaker 1: So that's my neck of the woods. That's my neighborhood.
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  Speaker 1: That's just a mile or two from me. And it's weird.
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  Speaker 1: It's just weird. It wasn't here. I've been here for
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  Speaker 1: five years where I live just north of LA. And coincidentally,
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  Speaker 1: I was going to show that video. I would have
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  Speaker 1: showed that video if I lived in Florida. But that
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  Speaker 1: video is exactly my neighborhood. And these street vendors are
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  Speaker 1: popping up. And it's very odd. And there's all these
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  Speaker 1: other businesses that that are trying to survive in a
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  Speaker 1: very competitive environment. And they got all of a sudden overnight,
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  Speaker 1: all these people who have much lower overhead, much lower
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  Speaker 1: sanitation requirements, and who knows what the quality of the
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  Speaker 1: food is like. It was popping up and they're not
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  Speaker 1: the same contribution to the economy in general. So I'm
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  Speaker 1: not saying they don't have some sort of a place
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  Speaker 1: in society, maybe, but we just ran headlong into this.
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  Speaker 1: We are going to embrace these things that are probably illegal,
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  Speaker 1: probably run by illegals. And why is that? It is
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  Speaker 1: because our city government and our county government, this is
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  Speaker 1: not LA County, LA city, but it is LA County
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  Speaker 1: are really bad with understanding basic economics. You may have
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  Speaker 1: noticed that yesterday, LA taxes had gone up. I mentioned
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  Speaker 1: this on yesterday's show because the taxpayers voted for it,
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  Speaker 1: voting for higher taxes, wild. And then we've got our
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  Speaker 1: governor of the state who is in Alabama and Why
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  Speaker 1: is he in Alabama? He should be working at Montreal
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  Speaker 1: at LAX. No, he's in Alabama doing this. Cut 11.
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  Speaker 5: The biggest blowback, and I'm curious your response to this,
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  Speaker 5: why am I as a taxpayer responsible for the sins
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  Speaker 5: of not my father, but maybe my grandfather? Why am
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  Speaker 5: I now?
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  Speaker 6: Well, to me, you're also the beneficiary of many of
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  Speaker 6: those sins. It's very hard for anybody in this country
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  Speaker 6: to to disconnect themselves from the history, right? Everybody was
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  Speaker 6: born someplace, and if it's someplace where you had the
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  Speaker 6: benefit of that GI Bill that I did not, then
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  Speaker 6: you got something that other people didn't get, and that
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  Speaker 6: was wrong. That's unfair.
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  Speaker 1: So, basically, this is all a case using this podcast
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  Speaker 1: platform to make a case for reparations for slavery, saying
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  Speaker 1: it should be the same as the GI Bill, where
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  Speaker 1: you get benefits for serving in combat. Let's play Cut 12, guys.
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  Speaker 1: I have a bill in front of me.
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  Speaker 5: Privileged to have this opportunity. A bill in front of
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  Speaker 5: me that I'm signing quite literally right now.
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  Speaker 4: This is a bill.
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  Speaker 5: That requires large companies that operated before 1965 to search
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  Speaker 5: their records for ties to slavery going back to 1849.
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  Speaker 1: And then we make it public.
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  Speaker 5: These are insurance policies on enslaved people, human beings used
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  Speaker 5: as collateral, quite literally as collateral for loans. Accountability, as
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  Speaker 5: Brian said, starts with the truth.
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  Speaker 1: Well, what it starts with is that we have $ 40
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  Speaker 1: trillion in debt. We're obsessed with race already as is.
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  Speaker 1: We can't afford anything. And we're obsessed with being victims.
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  Speaker 1: And everyone, instead of trying to search for the next
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  Speaker 1: great invention, trying to find a way to make their
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  Speaker 1: way in America, we are encouraging people to just claim
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  Speaker 1: the victim narrative and the victim mindset and to use
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  Speaker 1: that to form their whole identity. And it's going horribly.
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  Speaker 1: It's going horribly for people, particularly in your state. It's
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  Speaker 1: all a pander. It's all horrible. It doesn't solve a
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  Speaker 1: single problem that people need solved. We'll be right back.
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  Speaker 7: Thank you.
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  Speaker 5: modern prophets and divine messages influencing us.
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  Speaker 7: Today some people absolutely have the gift of prophecy if
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  Speaker 7: god exists how would he inject his information into our
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  Speaker 7: world more than likely he would use humans satan would
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  Speaker 7: love christians so just be a spectator not engage not
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  Speaker 7: participate is there something he's trying.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: To The Democrats blocked a bill to limit lawmakers' stock
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: trades unanimously. So they tried to block insider trading. This
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: is something that's been a project of Peter Schweitzer at
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: Breitbart News for as long as he's been with us.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: It's trying to block congressional people, members, their staff from
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: being able to trade insiders. based off of insider knowledge
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: that they get, and every single Democrat in the Senate
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: blocked this legislation. Another story we've got to tell, it's
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: incumbent on us to share with the American people who
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: these people are. These people are completely nuts, and we
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: cannot give them more power, and the stakes are way, way,
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: way too high. They also blocked, as I noted, the
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: ratepayer protection plan, which would compel companies to not raise
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: rates of the people in an area, should they get
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: a data center, that they're energy costs will not go
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: up because of these data centers. Or as Jensen Wong
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: is now calling it, superintelligence centers. What are they calling it?
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: He's calling it superintelligence something or other. Yeah, he's calling
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: it superintelligence factories. I don't know about that, Jensen. I
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: don't know. He's fun to track because I sometimes agree
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: with him, sometimes doubt. I'm not sure he's going to
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: pull that one off. We're going to call them superintelligence factors.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: So it's an amazing story that we're still doing this.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: We're trying to block– protection for the citizens why to
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: sabotage republicans because chuck schumer knows that most people who
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: are voting are not informed enough and they're going to
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: think that republicans can't get the job done things are
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: getting worse under this republican administration they've got the polling
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: they've got the data and they think that's what's going
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: on and that's when you see stuff like this jobs
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: report is pretty good they don't note that part of
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: the reason why it is not even better is because
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: we're firing government employees who aren't necessary so things like
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: that we have to keep getting the word out keep
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: spreading the news Some kind of fun economic stuff. Disney
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: has announced that they're going to have some extremely painful layoffs.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: So look, these are woke people, and they just got
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: more woke over time. And they're very weak people because
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: they know their primary audience are normal Americans. And those
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: normal Americans are just normal families. We're getting abused by
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: them inserting all sorts of woke plot lines into their content.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: And this does cost them lots and lots of money,
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: and it made people not trust the entire brand. Bob Chepik,
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: who was for a time the CEO of Disney, he's
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: out with a book, and he's been on the interview circuit.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: I got this cut of him. Cut five, guys.
• 19:01
  Speaker 8: Where was I on the announcement of what our position
• 19:06
  Speaker 8: was going to be on Don't Say Gay? My announcement
• 19:09
  Speaker 8: was that we were going to stay neutral because nothing comes,
• 19:12
  Speaker 8: nothing positive comes.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: Until Bob pushed you, and Bob Iger pushed you with
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: that tweet.
• 19:15
  Speaker 8: Where we landed in that first particular example with we
• 19:19
  Speaker 8: should stay neutral was was something everybody thought was the
• 19:21
  Speaker 8: appropriate landing spot.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: I agree. Yep.
• 19:24
  Speaker 8: And let's just say it wasn't just throngs of employees
• 19:30
  Speaker 8: who didn't agree with that. It was the synthesis of
• 19:34
  Speaker 8: a lot of people's opinion that the company's statement needed
• 19:38
  Speaker 8: to be amended.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: Well, partially it's because Dana Walden, who runs Disney, is
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: best friends with Conley Harris. And they know politically that
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: the Don't Say Gay bill, which was a Florida thing,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: which has nothing to do with whether or not you're
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: allowed to say gay. You can say gay all you want.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: The issue was trying to make it so that people
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: had to enforce DEI within all sorts of different areas
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: of life, businesses, etc. And it was just enforced DEI,
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: which is not working. Disney's Dana Walden, by the way,
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: has given some lukewarm support to Jimmy Kimmel. I want
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: to play Cut 19 for you guys. Play this one.
• 20:12
  Speaker 9: So we had your friend Jimmy Kimmel on the stage
• 20:15
  Speaker 9: last year. Is he going to be hosting his show
• 20:18
  Speaker 9: a year from now?
• 20:19
  Speaker 10: Well, I'm certainly not going to make that announcement with
• 20:23
  Speaker 10: you here today. Because again, I'm letting Casey make the news.
• 20:30
  Speaker 9: Okay, give me one follow-up. Why isn't it a no-brainer?
• 20:34
  Speaker 9: His ratings are up, he's become this free speech hero.
• 20:36
  Speaker 9: Why isn't it just, of course, we'll have him back.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: Okay, that's a good question.
• 20:41
  Speaker 10: And the truth is it's a very challenging day part
• 20:45
  Speaker 10: late night. That's not to say that Jimmy is not
• 20:48
  Speaker 10: doing a phenomenal job and his ratings are up, but
• 20:53
  Speaker 10: they're up relative to a smaller audience that's watching late
• 20:59
  Speaker 10: night on broadcast television.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's delish. That's really fun to watch. He is
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: just squirming. And just know that it's all about Kamala
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: Harris in 2028. That's what she's going to try to
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: do with that company. And so that's why people lose
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: trust in it. And look, unfortunately, it's a better brand
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: than Netflix and so many of the other competitors, which
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: is just sad to say it. But we've got to
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: keep tracking the woke economy. Nike stock, by the way,
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: crashed another 6%. So it's its lowest level in 13 years.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: It's down 82% from its record high. And it's erased
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: $ 230 billion in market cap.
• 21:35
  Speaker 8: Why?
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: Because its wokeness sent a signal to other entrepreneurial people
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: that it's game on to enter the athletic wear space.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: And all the athleisure, they don't compete in the athleisure
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: market with the Allos and the Lululemons and things like that.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: And then now they're getting completely lapped in all of
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: the running shoes. It's from the Asics to the On
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: Clouds to the Hokas. Adidas is up their game in
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: that regard. So they don't have the market share that
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: they used to. And it's great to see. It's great
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: to see. We need to have the economy. We need
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: to have people fighting for the consumers. Another thing that's
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: been suffering, which I think is going to be– I
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: think we're in the precipice of something big is universities.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: I'll segue back to the Cornell thing in a minute.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: But I caught this story in the New York Post,
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: which is pretty unbelievable, about how tech companies are now
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: launching their own training programs for graduates. They're getting 18-year-olds,
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: talking them out of joining the Ivy Leagues. This is
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: something Peter Thiel has been on for a long time.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: He has this grant that he would give out to people.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: to encourage them not to go to college and instead
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: go just start working for him. And it makes a
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: lot of sense because if you throw the kids a
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: couple of grand a month, then they'll live like kings
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: for 18-year-olds, and they'll also not accrue massive amounts of debt,
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: and they'll get a better training from working in these companies,
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: which would be cutthroat environments. There's not a lot of
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: gang rape parties going on in the evenings, probably at
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: Palantir or wherever. Probably not. There's probably not a lot
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: of gang bangs from Palantir folks on the weekends. Guys,
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: are we in agreement on that? Unlikely. That's probably going
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: to happen. And so now they're just going to train
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: the grads themselves, and then it's going to be better,
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: the Ivy Leagues. It's going to be a lot less
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: well because it's going to cost a lot less money.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: Even if these are left-of-center companies, they ultimately have to
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: compete for shareholder value, and that's a better position than
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: what the left-wing universities are all about, which are just
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: indoctrination centers where they teach you how to unlearn your
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: traditional American Judeo-Christian values, and you accumulate hundreds of thousands
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: in debt to do so. And then what goes on
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: at these places? It's the Cornell stuff. It's the Cornell
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: rape hoax, which by the day, that story continues to unravel.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: So the left has brought in the big guns. And
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about the big guns, big Tish James. Tish
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: James is now going to be the one who's going
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: to be presiding over this prosecution. So it's just startling
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: because James, when there's anything political that goes on, is
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: always not trustworthy. She's a total killer when it comes
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: to being an attorney. But if there's anything political and
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: this is being framed as a political thing, then you
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: never want her involved at all. But they're going to
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: push her to try to get some sort of a
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: conviction for these guys. But these guys are all repulsive anyway,
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: so I don't really care. I'm not trying to defend
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: the boys who participated in this thing. But what I
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: am trying to defend is the boys in general, young
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: men in general for getting falsely accused of stuff because
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: women regret the activities that they have engaged in. When
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: you start acting like a hoe and then you regret
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: it later, you can't say the guys who you invited
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: in your bedroom were rapists. You can't do that. It's
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: not a positive thing. The ladies on a generationally bad
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: run on the bad generationally bad run. I got a
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: new story that this is just so shocking. I should
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: have sent the guys this because there's a photo component
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: that But a Texas mom shot her four-year-old daughter in
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: a murder-suicide hours after losing a custody battle. 35-year-old white woman,
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: someone named Cybele Cybele in Texas, and lost a custody
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: battle with her ex-husband and then killed herself and her baby.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: Sick stuff. But it'll be interesting to hear if anyone
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: rise to her defense. And I'll tell you why they
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: might not, because she's incredibly hot. Incredibly hot person, which
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: is really, really weird. But it's the Lindsay Clancy thing
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: that Emma Jo Morris, who I podcast with just about
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: every week that we're not doing this week, just about
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: every week we podcast together. Her theory on Lindsay Clancy,
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: part of the reason she got so popular is because
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: she's mid, meaning she's not particularly attractive. And so the
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: women get jealous of super attractive women. So let's see
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: if people ride to this woman's defense that she was
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: allowed to kill her kid. And remember, she used a gun.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: And so you're supposed to kill your kid with an
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: exercise band. We learned that. We learned that from what's
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: going on with the botched lethal injection that which is
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: truly stunning because there was a headline in the Washington Post.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: I had to do this squinty eye thing where I
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: rub my eyes, but this is real from yesterday. Breaking news,
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: Krista Pike is alive in critical condition and receiving life-saving
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: medical care. Life-saving medical care. Life-saving medical care. She was
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: on death row and they were trying to execute her.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: And then she got life-saving care because the All-female execution
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: team botched the execution. Unbelievably hard to believe that this
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: is real life. Emma Jo texted me after listening to
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: the show yesterday, and she said she was dying over
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: this specific thing that she had requested her all-female execution team.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, suggesting that just because you're strapped to a
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: bed and being killed by a woman, that's cool. Because
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: if a man was doing it, then it would be triggering.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: Do you know how insane we've all gotten? That it's
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: cool for women to kill me because of my murder
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: that I committed 32 years ago. But if men do it,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: then I'm triggered by that because of some abuse I
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: suffered decades prior. We're DEI in the executions, guys. We're
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: DEI in the executions now. Diversity, equity, inclusion when we
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: put down dogs who murder people in cold blood. And
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: is anyone going to put a stop to it? I
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: don't know. It's certainly not going to be the Democrats.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: Abdul El-Sayed was absolutely cooking in a recent interview trying
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: to pander to get black votes. Play cut 14, please, guys.
• 27:23
  Speaker 11: I've been having great conversations with a lot of folks
• 27:26
  Speaker 11: who've been fighting this fight for a very long time
• 27:28
  Speaker 11: for the black community.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: Representative Clyburn is one of them.
• 27:31
  Speaker 11: I had a great meeting with him in his office
• 27:33
  Speaker 11: a couple weeks back, and he's endorsing our campaign.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: He supported us.
• 27:37
  Speaker 11: The Congressional Black Caucus PAC has endorsed our race. Vice
• 27:41
  Speaker 11: President Harris came out to Michigan. Too often, when folks
• 27:45
  Speaker 11: meet somebody who looks like me, it's not a good experience.
• 27:49
  Speaker 11: Too often, they're seeing them from behind bulletproof glass in
• 27:53
  Speaker 11: a liquor store or in a gas station. They're being catcalled.
• 27:56
  Speaker 11: If they're a woman, their kid is being sold to
• 27:58
  Speaker 11: Lucy out the back if they buy food, it's beyond
• 28:03
  Speaker 11: its expiration date.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: It's just amazing how he's willing to act like the
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: Arab experience and the black experience is the same. Doesn't
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: it just cheapen the black experience? Isn't that the sort
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: of thing that we were told over and over again
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: that you're not supposed to do that sort of thing?
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: Too often when folks meet somebody who looks like me,
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: it's not a good experience. Too often they're seeing them
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: from behind bulletproof glass in a liquor store in a
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: gas station. They're being catcalled if they're a woman I
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know if this is a good look.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: He actually goes on to explain how blacks never had
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: access to capitalism, just more of the victim narrative, more
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: of the woke stuff. Woke 2 is going to be bad, guys.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: Woke 2 is going to be bad. I want to
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: play this cut of Michelle Obama and Sharon Stone. This
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: is important because this is how they're talking about abortion
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: these days. Cut 7.
• 28:50
  Speaker 12: And now we don't want to give women– Care, OBGYN care,
• 28:55
  Speaker 12: and we want to prosecute women for having a miscarriage?
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 28:59
  Speaker 12: What kind of arcane is this?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 29:03
  Speaker 12: If men got pregnant, you could get an abortion from
• 29:07
  Speaker 12: a vending machine.
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: There would be the birth Olympics.
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  Speaker 10: Men would film themselves going into labor and honoring their pain.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: There would be trophies given. That's unbelievably idiotic commentary. I
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: don't know what birth Olympics means. Isn't this a whole
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: trend in TikTok where women set up their lights and
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: camera and then they cry on the camera and then
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: they post it to social media and TikTok and stuff?
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: Like isn't that what they do? They have a meltdown
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: after they've set up the camera? But news to Sharon Stone,
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: men can give birth. Men can give birth. Did we
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  Speaker 1: great guest, Todd Nettleton from The Voice of the Martyrs.
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  Speaker 1: He's got a new book, When Faith is Forbidden. You
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  Speaker 1: will want to hear this interview, the full interview and
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  Speaker 1: the podcast. Here's a big chunk of it right now.
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  Speaker 1: There's an incredibly important group that might be familiar with
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: some of you, which is called the Voice of the Martyrs.
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  Speaker 1: And what they do is they speak to persecuted peoples,
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: particularly Christians throughout the world, focusing on regions that are
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: just not covered. They are not given the attention that
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: is due. And we do spend so much time on
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: this show and other shows talking about grievances, talking about
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: oppressed people, who is the latest victim. Well, these are
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: the victims. And there are some people, including my guest now,
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: Todd Nettleton, who have devoted much of his life to
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: trying to tell these victims stories and persecuted people's stories.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: These are real. These are happening now. And he's documented
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: a lot of them over a career that spanned a
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: very long time. Looking at North Korea, Iran, China, Nigeria,
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: other places where people have been tortured and killed simply
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: because they follow our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. Now,
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: Voice of the Martyrs is... a radio network, and it
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: also has Voice of the Martyrs Radio. It's an incredible
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: place to compile some of these incredible stories. But one
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: thing that we have now, and some of you who
• 32:54
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  Speaker 1: Front Lines with Persecuted Christians. Todd is my guest now.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: I want to talk all about the book and the
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: work that he does. But Todd, this is quite a
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: life that you've laid out where you're dedicated telling these
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: horrific stories. It's interesting because I'm in the news business,
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: so I'm reading the worst stories of the day every day.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: I'm married to a cancer doctor, so she's constantly talking
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: to people on the worst day of their life. And still,
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: it feels like you've somehow one-upped all of us in
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: terms of immersing yourself and some of the most challenging
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: topics known to man. But credit you for doing this.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: We need people like you. Tell me about your journey
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: to this point.
• 33:32
  Speaker 13: You know, when I was a boy, my dad read
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  Speaker 13: books to my brother and I of famous missionary biographies.
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  Speaker 13: And so I saw someone who goes to a difficult place,
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  Speaker 13: somebody who carries the gospel, maybe in a place where
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  Speaker 13: it's never been before.
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  Speaker 4: I saw those people as heroes.
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  Speaker 13: And I think that that really is the root of
• 33:51
  Speaker 13: my coming to work at The Voice of the Martyrs
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  Speaker 13: was really just seeing Someone who stands up under torture,
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  Speaker 13: under persecution, but refuses to renounce their faith.
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  Speaker 4: I see that person as a hero.
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  Speaker 13: And I've had so many opportunities to meet them, to
• 34:06
  Speaker 13: hear their stories. And I consider it a sacred privilege
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  Speaker 13: to be able to tell their stories to American Christians.
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  Speaker 1: It truly is, and it is one thing where even
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: on your worst day, your head has to hit the
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  Speaker 1: pillow knowing that you've done a lot of good. And
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  Speaker 1: we've got an incredible offer. If you go to vom,
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• 34:28
  Speaker 1: Believe it or not, we are talking about an offer
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  Speaker 1: is Forbidden, completely free. It's amazing. I tell you, one
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: of my children grabbed it, immediately started reading it. He
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: was horrified, of course, but it's important to know these stories.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: We need to know these things that are happening, and
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: I want to get to some of the highlights for
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: you or some of the most important stories throughout the
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: course of the conversation. today. But tell me a little
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: bit about some of the regions where you've traveled that
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: have been so dangerous. I mean, you're really going to
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: places that are just incredibly uncomfortable for, you know, first
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  Speaker 1: world Americans. Tell me about some of them.
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  Speaker 13: Well, yeah, I've been to some very interesting places. I
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  Speaker 13: only think of two times where I was legitimately frightened.
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  Speaker 13: And one of those was in northern Iraq. And we
• 35:15
  Speaker 13: pulled up to a checkpoint, The guy with the gun said, OK, everyone,
• 35:19
  Speaker 13: I need to see your IDs. And as soon as
• 35:21
  Speaker 13: he saw two American passports, mine and my co-workers. His
• 35:25
  Speaker 13: eyes got really big. And then he said, OK, you
• 35:27
  Speaker 13: two Americans, you come with me. And I was like, oh,
• 35:31
  Speaker 13: we are being kidnapped. This is this is not good
• 35:33
  Speaker 13: at all. And he marched us out of the van.
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  Speaker 13: We walked up kind of there was like an embankment
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  Speaker 13: by the road. We walked up over the embankment where
• 35:40
  Speaker 13: we couldn't see the van anymore with our Iraqi Christian friends.
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  Speaker 13: And I just was 100 percent sure that we were
• 35:47
  Speaker 13: being kidnapped. And he marches us into this little kind
• 35:51
  Speaker 13: of hut that's there. And his colonel is there who
• 35:55
  Speaker 13: wants to welcome us and tell us how much he
• 35:57
  Speaker 13: loves Americans. He is so happy that we have come
• 35:59
  Speaker 13: to his country. And this turned out it was a
• 36:02
  Speaker 13: Kurdish checkpoint. The Kurdish people who often love Americans, they
• 36:06
  Speaker 13: are very thankful for us. And I was standing there
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  Speaker 13: thinking about I might need to change my pants soon.
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  Speaker 13: I wish, sir, you would have come out to the
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  Speaker 13: van to tell us that you love us. But it
• 36:19
  Speaker 13: turned out we weren't in any danger at all. The
• 36:22
  Speaker 13: other thing that I think about much more than I
• 36:24
  Speaker 13: think about where I am or my situation is I
• 36:28
  Speaker 13: have a blue passport and I have a ticket to
• 36:31
  Speaker 13: go home. the brothers and sisters that I'm meeting with,
• 36:35
  Speaker 13: they don't have that privilege. They don't have that protection.
• 36:37
  Speaker 13: And so the danger for them to sit down with
• 36:40
  Speaker 13: me and share their stories. And, you know, most of
• 36:43
  Speaker 13: the time their government doesn't want them to share those stories.
• 36:46
  Speaker 13: They certainly don't want it to get out that they
• 36:48
  Speaker 13: are persecuting Christian, Christian minority in their country. And so,
• 36:53
  Speaker 13: The brother or sister that I'm talking to is taking
• 36:56
  Speaker 13: much greater risk than I am to be there and
• 36:59
  Speaker 13: to have that conversation. Because like I say, I've got
• 37:01
  Speaker 13: an American passport and I've got to take it home.
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  Speaker 1: And just such an important reminder, we need to pray
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: daily for persecuted Christians around the world. And it is
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: something that gets lost in the shuffle in this Judeo-Christian
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: nation that we live in. And I think it's always
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: important to have that call to action. VOM.com slash Alex
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  Speaker 1: for your free book, When Faith is Forbidden. You should
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: all get it. But Todd, I want to ask about
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: just life on the road. You had over 20 years
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: of travel, maybe even approaching 30 at this point. And
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: you're doing broadcast, you're compiling notes, you're talking to people.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: What excites you about this lifestyle?
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 13: I do like going to new places and I like
• 37:42
  Speaker 13: being in a place I've never been before. But what
• 37:45
  Speaker 13: excites me more than anything else is understanding that because
• 37:49
  Speaker 13: I have a microphone, because I have the voice of
• 37:52
  Speaker 13: the martyrs behind me, this person's story is going to
• 37:56
  Speaker 13: get to be heard by thousands and thousands of people.
• 38:00
  Speaker 13: And like I say, I consider these people heroes, but
• 38:04
  Speaker 13: their stories would never be told if we didn't go
• 38:06
  Speaker 13: and sit down with them and have the wherewithal to
• 38:09
  Speaker 13: be able to share the stories just like this in
• 38:12
  Speaker 13: a conversation on our podcast via radio or in our magazine,
• 38:16
  Speaker 13: which is free. We want to tell these stories. And
• 38:19
  Speaker 13: so when I get to sit down with somebody and think,
• 38:21
  Speaker 13: you know, this is an amazing story. This is a
• 38:23
  Speaker 13: hero of the faith. And I get to be the
• 38:26
  Speaker 13: one to sit down with them. And then we get
• 38:28
  Speaker 13: to share their story. We get to tell it to
• 38:29
  Speaker 13: more people and encourage them and challenge them. That's the
• 38:33
  Speaker 13: part that excites me is just being able to tell
• 38:35
  Speaker 13: these stories. And the thing that I want people to understand,
• 38:38
  Speaker 13: I think when we hear persecuted Christian, the picture we
• 38:42
  Speaker 13: have in our mind is somebody who's really depressed and like, oh, wow,
• 38:45
  Speaker 13: they've just come out of prison and they're so discouraged.
• 38:48
  Speaker 13: And we have to go and kind of pick them
• 38:50
  Speaker 13: up off the floor and dust them off and cheer
• 38:52
  Speaker 13: them up. By and large, that is not the case.
• 38:55
  Speaker 13: By and large, the people that I meet are filled
• 38:57
  Speaker 13: with joy. They have, you know, the joy of the
• 39:00
  Speaker 13: Lord is their strength and they have joy. They have
• 39:04
  Speaker 13: a smile on their face and they're not talking about,
• 39:06
  Speaker 13: woe is me, it was terrible. They're talking about, wow,
• 39:09
  Speaker 13: while I was in prison, I got to share Jesus
• 39:11
  Speaker 13: with six other people and now they're walking with Jesus too.
• 39:14
  Speaker 13: And so it is not a depressing job and I'm
• 39:18
  Speaker 13: not meeting with depressed people all day long. It is
• 39:21
  Speaker 13: actually a joyful job because the people we serve are
• 39:24
  Speaker 13: so joyful.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: That's beautiful. Exactly where I wanted to go next. But
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: I want to talk about the book, which is a
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: 40-day devotion. And so it's drawn from so many of
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: these stories that you tell, but it includes daily readings
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: where you can have a map or a photo or
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: a Bible verse. So it's really well put together. It
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: gives you prompts to reflect on. It gives you a
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: suggested prayer. So it really does hold your hand and
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: walk you through the process, which I really like. But
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: to your point, What I really enjoy is you tell
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: these stories, and some of them are kind of uplifting.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: There's a Chinese Christian woman who's profiled in it who
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: was in prison for six months and described it as
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: a wonderful time. That's a good example. Talk to me
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: about this person. Yes.
• 40:02
  Speaker 13: I will never forget sitting down with Sister Tong. And
• 40:05
  Speaker 13: like you said, she had just been in prison for
• 40:07
  Speaker 13: six months, and she was hosting a house church in
• 40:10
  Speaker 13: her home. And so at that time, the authorities were
• 40:14
  Speaker 13: raiding house churches. They would take everybody's photograph. They would
• 40:16
  Speaker 13: take everybody's ID. But the owner of the home, the
• 40:20
  Speaker 13: host of the meeting, would go to jail. And so
• 40:22
  Speaker 13: she went to jail for six months. And we were
• 40:24
  Speaker 13: there just a few weeks after she was released. So
• 40:27
  Speaker 13: this was a very fresh experience for her. And I
• 40:30
  Speaker 13: know I'm going to come back to America. I'm going
• 40:32
  Speaker 13: to tell her story. And maybe I'm going to write
• 40:34
  Speaker 13: it for our magazine. And so, you know, if you're
• 40:36
  Speaker 13: writing a story, you need the setting. And so I say,
• 40:38
  Speaker 13: Sister Tong, tell me about the prison. And what I'm
• 40:41
  Speaker 13: thinking in my mind is, you know, tell me how
• 40:43
  Speaker 13: big the rats were. Tell me how terrible the food was.
• 40:45
  Speaker 13: Tell me how hard the bed was.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: Let's paint a picture of how miserable your time has been.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, how devastating is this?
• 40:51
  Speaker 12: Yes.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 40:52
  Speaker 13: And so my translator translates the question and she gets
• 40:55
  Speaker 13: this smile on her face and she says something in
• 40:58
  Speaker 13: Chinese and the translator says, oh, yes, that was a
• 41:00
  Speaker 13: wonderful time. And I honestly, I looked at the translator.
• 41:04
  Speaker 13: I'm like, are you sure you understood my question? Like,
• 41:06
  Speaker 13: are you sure that you translated that correctly? Because nobody
• 41:09
  Speaker 13: would ever describe a Chinese prison as a wonderful time.
• 41:11
  Speaker 13: That's ridiculous. And he's like, no, no, I understood your question.
• 41:14
  Speaker 13: And she understood the question. And that's what she said.
• 41:16
  Speaker 13: And I said, okay, Sister Tong, you're going to have
• 41:18
  Speaker 13: to tell me, you know, how can you say that
• 41:20
  Speaker 13: six months in a Chinese prison was a wonderful time?
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: And she said two things I'll never forget. She said,
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: Jesus was with me.
• 41:27
  Speaker 13: In that prison cell in a way that I've never
• 41:30
  Speaker 13: experienced him outside of prison. He was so close and
• 41:32
  Speaker 13: so real and so personal to me. And she said,
• 41:36
  Speaker 13: there were ladies in my cell. And when I got there,
• 41:38
  Speaker 13: they didn't know Jesus. And I got to be the
• 41:41
  Speaker 13: one to introduce them. So Jesus was with me. Jesus
• 41:44
  Speaker 13: gave me a ministry to do. That's the definition of
• 41:47
  Speaker 13: a wonderful time. And the question I ask in the book,
• 41:50
  Speaker 13: because one of the things I try to do in
• 41:52
  Speaker 13: the book is bring this home for American readers. Hey,
• 41:55
  Speaker 13: I'm not persecuted. Nobody's putting a gun to my head.
• 41:58
  Speaker 13: What do I need to learn from this person? Well,
• 42:01
  Speaker 13: if Jesus is with you and he says he will be,
• 42:04
  Speaker 13: and if he's given you a ministry to do, and
• 42:06
  Speaker 13: now sometimes we have to really open our eyes to
• 42:08
  Speaker 13: try to find what that ministry is. But if he's
• 42:10
  Speaker 13: given you a ministry to do and he's with you,
• 42:11
  Speaker 13: that's a wonderful time, even if you're in a hospital room.
• 42:15
  Speaker 13: even if you're in an emergency room, even if you're
• 42:17
  Speaker 13: at the mechanic's shop because your car broke down, that
• 42:21
  Speaker 13: could be a wonderful time if you have those two things.
• 42:24
  Speaker 13: And we know that Jesus is with us. So we
• 42:26
  Speaker 13: just have to see if he's giving us a ministry
• 42:27
  Speaker 13: to do.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: Gosh, if you're stuck in LA traffic, I mean, that's the,
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: I need this on a personal level. This is just,
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: it's such a fantastic, uplifting message. Todd Nettleton is with me,
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: vom.org slash Alex for the free book. And I want
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: to dig into that. the book now, and I want
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: to hear about when faith is forbidden, what compelled you
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: to write it, to put it together, and most importantly,
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: what do Christians, what do you want them to take
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: away from it?
• 42:55
  Speaker 12: You know, the.
• 42:56
  Speaker 13: Idea or the genesis of the book came because I
• 42:59
  Speaker 13: will come home from a trip and I've met with
• 43:01
  Speaker 13: persecuted Christians and I'll go to my church or I'll
• 43:04
  Speaker 13: go to my Bible study group and I'll share one
• 43:06
  Speaker 13: of the stories, just like we just talked about Sister Tong.
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: I'll share the story of Sister.
• 43:10
  Speaker 13: Tong and And inevitably, someone would say, man, I wish
• 43:13
  Speaker 13: I could go on a trip with you. And, you know,
• 43:16
  Speaker 13: sometimes they mean that if I'm going someplace fairly decent,
• 43:19
  Speaker 13: and sometimes they don't really know what they're asking. But generally,
• 43:22
  Speaker 13: that's not possible. And so the book is my invitation. Okay,
• 43:26
  Speaker 13: let's go on a trip together. Let's go for 40 days.
• 43:29
  Speaker 13: Every single day on our trip, we're going to meet
• 43:31
  Speaker 13: a persecuted Christian. We're going to hear their story. And
• 43:35
  Speaker 13: the promise is your faith will look different on day
• 43:38
  Speaker 13: 41 because you can't hang out with people who have
• 43:41
  Speaker 13: been in prison for their faith or have been beaten
• 43:44
  Speaker 13: for their faith and still smile about it and say, oh,
• 43:47
  Speaker 13: God has blessed me so much. You can't spend 40
• 43:50
  Speaker 13: days with those kind of people and then just walk
• 43:52
  Speaker 13: away and go back to what you were before. Your
• 43:54
  Speaker 13: faith is going to be challenged. You are going to
• 43:56
  Speaker 13: look different in the way you follow Jesus. And I've
• 44:00
  Speaker 13: had so much great response from readers of the book.
• 44:03
  Speaker 13: I just got an email just in the last couple
• 44:05
  Speaker 13: of weeks from somebody who called it breathtaking. I was like, man,
• 44:07
  Speaker 13: I need that promo on the front.
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: Cover, breathtaking.
• 44:10
  Speaker 13: These stories um and it has impacted a lot of
• 44:14
  Speaker 13: people's faith and i'm so pleased by that.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: So one story that i also was going to bring
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: up which is kind of surreal is that you spoke
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: to a pastor an iraqi pastor and his wife and
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: this is eight days after he was shot by assassins
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: and i was thinking about how there is physical bravery
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: involved being a christian in certain parts of the world
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: and now increasingly in the united states as we get
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: more secular.
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that was an amazing.
• 44:36
  Speaker 13: And it was one of those things where I had
• 44:38
  Speaker 13: had the trip planned for weeks ahead of time. And
• 44:41
  Speaker 13: we just happened to be there eight days after he
• 44:44
  Speaker 13: was shot in the city of Mosul, which is now famous.
• 44:47
  Speaker 13: At that time, it hadn't been taken over by ISIS yet.
• 44:50
  Speaker 13: But he was shot in literally he still had the
• 44:53
  Speaker 13: coat on with the hole. And there was a hole
• 44:56
  Speaker 13: like right here in his coat. And I was like,
• 44:58
  Speaker 13: how do you have a bullet hole in your coat
• 45:00
  Speaker 13: right there? And you're still walking around. I don't even
• 45:03
  Speaker 13: like it's hard to even fathom. how he survived this attack.
• 45:07
  Speaker 13: But the amazing thing about this couple, this pastor and
• 45:10
  Speaker 13: his wife, is they had been challenged to leave Iraq.
• 45:13
  Speaker 13: In fact, he said, we have family in Europe. We
• 45:15
  Speaker 13: have a phone call every week with them. And every
• 45:18
  Speaker 13: single week they say, hey, it's not safe for you there.
• 45:21
  Speaker 13: You need to come and we can care for you.
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: Come to Europe.
• 45:23
  Speaker 13: It's safe here. And every week they say, nope, God
• 45:26
  Speaker 13: has called us to be here. And we're going to
• 45:28
  Speaker 13: stay here until God tells us it's time to leave.
• 45:31
  Speaker 13: And they did that even to the point where he
• 45:34
  Speaker 13: was shot. And he was at a church where there
• 45:38
  Speaker 13: were once three pastors. One of them had already been martyred.
• 45:42
  Speaker 13: The other one had left. So he was the last
• 45:43
  Speaker 13: guy standing as the pastor of this church. And they
• 45:46
  Speaker 13: just said, God's called us here. We're going to stay
• 45:48
  Speaker 13: here until God calls us someplace else. And they were
• 45:51
  Speaker 13: willing to do that even in the face of assassins.
• 45:54
  Speaker 13: The other thing I'll always remember about that story is
• 45:56
  Speaker 13: his wife, talked about how God comforted her and prepared
• 46:01
  Speaker 13: her even before the attack. He was kind of preparing
• 46:04
  Speaker 13: and strengthening her faith to get her ready for that attack.
• 46:08
  Speaker 13: It's a supernatural thing. It doesn't make sense, but she
• 46:12
  Speaker 13: was just like, the Lord was preparing me, even though
• 46:15
  Speaker 13: I didn't know what he was preparing me for, he
• 46:17
  Speaker 13: was getting me ready to go through this time.
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: The book, When Faith is Forbidden, is yours completely free.
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: When you go to vom.org slash Alex, Todd Nettleton is
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: my guest and he's with me. And Todd, if people
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: read the book, they will be changed in 40 days.
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: It's 40 day process you go through with people, which
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: I think is really, I think handy and I think
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: it's efficient, but it's gotta be beyond us communing with
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: other people and thinking about the things that people have
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: endured in the name of Jesus Christ, which is worthwhile.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: But I want people to come away from this knowing
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: that you all can take a stand for persecuted believers.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: And what do we do? How does your book help
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: with that? And how do people in the audience take
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: something like that away from it?
• 47:00
  Speaker 13: So the thing I encourage people to do, if maybe
• 47:02
  Speaker 13: this is the first time you've ever heard that there
• 47:04
  Speaker 13: are still Christians being persecuted around the world. You know,
• 47:08
  Speaker 13: you read the book of Acts and you thought, okay, well,
• 47:10
  Speaker 13: that was the end of persecution.
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: No, it wasn't.
• 47:13
  Speaker 13: It's still going on. But if this is new information,
• 47:16
  Speaker 13: this is the thing I encourage people to do. Number
• 47:18
  Speaker 13: one is pray. And that's not my idea. That's the
• 47:21
  Speaker 13: idea of our persecuted brothers and sisters. When we go
• 47:23
  Speaker 13: and see them and say, okay, hey, we're going back
• 47:25
  Speaker 13: to America. We're going to talk to Christians there. How
• 47:27
  Speaker 13: can they help you? The first thing they ask every
• 47:30
  Speaker 13: time we ask that question is pray for us. So
• 47:33
  Speaker 13: number one is pray. Commit to pray. Make it a
• 47:35
  Speaker 13: regular part of your prayers. Even in your church, make
• 47:38
  Speaker 13: it a regular part of your church's prayers. Then number
• 47:40
  Speaker 13: two is learn more so that you can pray better.
• 47:43
  Speaker 13: Because it's easy to say, God bless persecuted Christians, but
• 47:47
  Speaker 13: it's also easy to forget to say that.
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: It's not very personal. It's not very direct.
• 47:51
  Speaker 13: So educate yourself so that you can pray more specific prayers.
• 47:56
  Speaker 13: There's a pastor named Wang Yi who is serving a
• 47:58
  Speaker 13: nine-year prison sentence in China right now. He has just
• 48:01
  Speaker 13: been diagnosed with liver cancer. So once you know that,
• 48:05
  Speaker 13: maybe you have his picture on your refrigerator or inside
• 48:07
  Speaker 13: your Bible, then it becomes, Lord, it's not just God
• 48:10
  Speaker 13: bless persecuted Christians. It's God bless Pastor Wang Yi, who
• 48:13
  Speaker 13: is serving nine years in prison in China, and heal
• 48:15
  Speaker 13: him from this cancer. So commit to pray, number one.
• 48:19
  Speaker 13: Number two, educate yourself so that you can pray more
• 48:22
  Speaker 13: specifically and more effectively. And then I always tell people
• 48:25
  Speaker 13: number three is whatever God lays on your heart to do.
• 48:27
  Speaker 13: Because when you're praying and when you're learning, I believe
• 48:31
  Speaker 13: God's going to put his thumb on something and say, okay,
• 48:33
  Speaker 13: now I want you to... And maybe that'll be sponsor
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  Speaker 13: Bibles to be delivered into some of these countries. Maybe
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  Speaker 13: it'll be write letters to Christians like Pastor Wong Yi
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  Speaker 13: who are in prison. We actually have a website at
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  Speaker 13: Voice of the Martyrs to help you write those letters.
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  Speaker 13: We have the address.
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  Speaker 4: We have the postage information. Maybe it'll be get on
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  Speaker 4: an airplane and go.
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  Speaker 13: To one of these countries. But that will come as
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  Speaker 13: you're praying and as you're learning more.
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  Speaker 4: And then the.
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  Speaker 13: Question is when God does say, okay, the next step
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  Speaker 13: for you is this, then we have to choose to
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  Speaker 13: be obedient to what he's calling us to do.
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  Speaker 1: Talk to me a little bit about the various regions
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  Speaker 1: of the world that you feel like are the most
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  Speaker 1: fraught right now. On this show, we talk about persecuted
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  Speaker 1: Christians in Africa quite a bit, in China a little
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  Speaker 1: bit as well. What are the regions where you feel
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  Speaker 1: like it is really tough going these days and maybe
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  Speaker 1: things are trending in the wrong direction?
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  Speaker 13: Well, you know, there are are places in a lot
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  Speaker 13: of areas of the world. You mentioned China, North Korea
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  Speaker 13: also next door, one of the most closed countries. I
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  Speaker 13: think the region that is underreported is the continent of Africa.
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  Speaker 13: And across Africa, we see radical Islam rising. And everywhere
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  Speaker 13: that radical Islam and Christianity sort of border each other,
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  Speaker 13: there is conflict and there are attacks everywhere. We see
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  Speaker 13: that in Burkina Faso. We see it in northern Mozambique.
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  Speaker 13: We certainly see it in northern Nigeria. So across that
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  Speaker 13: African continent, there is so much violence against Christians.
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  Speaker 4: And like I say, it's underreported.
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  Speaker 13: I think American media, unless Angelina Jolie is in Africa,
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  Speaker 13: they really don't care about anything that's happening in Africa.
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  Speaker 13: So we kind of have to remind people, hey, we
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  Speaker 13: have family. We have Christian brothers and sisters in Africa,
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  Speaker 13: and they are under attack.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely right. Okay, so again, I want to give
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  Speaker 1: people the call to action here. VOM.org slash Alex. The book,
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  Speaker 1: When Faith is Forbidden, it is a devotional. It will
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  Speaker 1: broaden your horizons. It will give you a lot of purpose.
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  Speaker 1: I'll tell you guys that. VOM.org slash Alex. And the
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  Speaker 1: book is free when you go there, so you really should.
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  Speaker 1: Everything that The Voice of the Martyrs does is fantastic
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  Speaker 1: from the radio broadcast. What else do we need to
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  Speaker 1: fill the audience in on today, Todd?
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  Speaker 13: You know, I just, again, I would encourage people like
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  Speaker 13: you to get the book, read these stories, be connected.
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  Speaker 13: Hebrews 13, three says, remember those in prison as if
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  Speaker 13: you were in prison with them. So kind of put
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  Speaker 13: yourself in their shoes and then think about how would
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  Speaker 13: you want people to respond? You'd want to know people
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  Speaker 13: were praying for you. You'd want to know that people
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  Speaker 13: were looking out for your family. You'd want to know
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  Speaker 13: people were banging the drum to get you out of jail.
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  Speaker 13: Those are all things that we can do to help
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  Speaker 13: persecuted Christians.
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  Speaker 1: The Voice of the Martyrs stands with our persecuted brothers
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  Speaker 1: and sisters. And this is a call to action for
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  Speaker 1: all of you and my audience to stand with them
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  Speaker 1: as well. It is not enough just to think about it.
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  Speaker 1: At a minimum, we got to pray about it. But
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  Speaker 1: I do think if you read the book, it'll open
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  Speaker 1: your eyes and your horizons. So people should check it out.
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  Speaker 1: VOM.org slash Alex, again, for your free copy of When
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  Speaker 1: Faith is Forbidden. Todd Nelton, thank you so much for
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  Speaker 1: doing this. And thanks for all that you and The
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: Voice of the Martyrs do.
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  Speaker 4: Well, thank you so much for having me.
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  Speaker 1: My pleasure.