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The Pacers Report with Michelle Garmon (Kevin Pritchard's Press Conference, Podcast No. 318.1) · The Central Indiana Sports Report

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[SPEAKER_01]: what you are listening to now is the Pacers report this week with Michelle Garmin filling in with our Pacers guide Mike Rich our MBA guide John Robertson and our national sports guide will rutherford all unavailable and of course she was amazing here it is our Pacers report reacting to Kevin Prytrich press conference on monday today is today's monday
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[SPEAKER_01]: Summer break is so hard to remember.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So much to talk about in the press conference, Tyreys Hall of Burton, Miles Turner, the new starting center rotation and the new additions to the roster.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're listening to the central Indiana Sports Report with your host, Greg Mangal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome, Pacer's fans to the central Indiana Sports Report.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm your host, Greg Mangal joined on this Pacer's report by Michelle Garmin.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Michelle, you know, we're in the middle of summer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We had a couple of people out on vacation and a couple of people too busy because others were on vacation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So Michelle Garmin is fairly in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: on the Pacers report because it was a big day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the day that I like to call the, this is my team press conference, essentially the off season, the early off season period is over.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the Pacers are throwing out their team and saying, this is it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is what we're doing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The big news, of course, and we can start in one of three places, I think Michelle, a couple of new additions to the team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: One, of course, a former player who is back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: one a new player.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We could also start with the news on Tyre's Haliburton, which we all expected.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Or we can start with the news on Miles Turner.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Where do you want to start, Michelle?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, let's go ahead because most of the press conference talked about
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[SPEAKER_02]: miles, but let's start with tyries, go to miles, and then go to the new, to the signings, because they kind of tie in with miles.
2:31
[SPEAKER_02]: So let's just start with tie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what we all expected.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Kind of what we are hoped.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just let him recover eighteen months.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think Kevin Pritchard, we've talked about this that he's a wonderful deal maker, the moves and stuff he's done for the pastures.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But what I really like about Kevin, no Greg, is how much he really cares for his players, above and beyond, above and beyond winning.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, and there was, he left no doubt about that today in that press conference.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The winning is secondary to the health and of his players and their future.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He did say that if someone asked him the hypothetical, you'd known, this was going to happen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Would you still have tried the tyries?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he said no way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, if you know the outcome, you don't do that, of course.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And you know, and I love the way, too, don't you love the way that he talked about they're really going to do a lot of, they're already started researching external internal ways to kind of
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[SPEAKER_02]: may be prevent some of that try to prevent as much as they can.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Some of these freak injuries in the in the future.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And again, I like the fact that he said tyries will not play next year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, people were holding out hope with the patient made the play.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll see it returned.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was not.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was one that said he should eat the city entire year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It'll give him four over four hundred days between is, you know, like a surgery.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And when he would play again, that will be more days than anybody that's ever come off on a key.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think that would be very beneficial to him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Especially he's a young guy, so that will help too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and it'll give him time to get back work back into even basketball shape.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You'll even have some time over the summer, probably to play some light pick up basketball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you're right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He won't have to be rushed back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I like it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It gives a year to Nim hard to say, hey, are you an NBA point guard?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've said this a few times on the podcast, Michelle, when he's filled in for how a Burton
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[SPEAKER_01]: for short spans, he's not been very good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But the few times, the Haliburton's been out for a long time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Nymphhard started to look like a little bit of a mini Haliburton with the exception of, he's a little better in the half court.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Haliburton's a little better in the full court.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Pickin' Role Lobb is gonna be fun with Nymphhard feeding, niece Smith, Jackson, Siakum, Obie Toppin,
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, Isaiah Jackson, it's going to be fun to watch this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Don't forget, Jay Hoff, one of Jay Hoff shot, forty percent from three point range with that was more than two hundred attempts this last season, but they said the one thing that he does that miles didn't do is he's a lob man can go up and catch the lob and dunk it and finish it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't know if you saw, I saw a couple clips of him, some of those lobs and one of them was impressive.
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[SPEAKER_02]: went up with his left hand and everything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, yes, I'm still a big man who doesn't rebound the show.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A big man who doesn't rebound.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, you know, who knows, maybe he will be maybe he will get better at that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, maybe it'll be a situation where he has a plate enough minutes to really.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope he doesn't need to play Michelle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope I hope he doesn't need to play.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope that James Wiseman and they're not a good game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: James, I hope.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope those guys are as good as they look to start last season before the injuries and we J. J. Half was there.
6:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah, that was cute.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you look at the history, I don't expect either one of those guys to play more than sixty to sixty five games and I'm going to guess it's going to be more like fifty is somewhere in the fifty to sixty range.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's regular season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's not including postseason because
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[SPEAKER_02]: History shows when they come off, they just, that's just it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You just play fewer games.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And part of that, I'm sure, is anytime that there's tightness in the Achilles and stuff like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Or, you know, you're just not, they're not going to gamble with it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Michelle, we'll get to this point too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think this will be at the end of the podcast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think they're done.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll go, we'll get that to that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We need to talk about Miles Turner and
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if I truly believe Kevin Pritchard when he says that they pursued Miles Turner as hard as they possibly could and then Miles Turner just went out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I'm just going to Milwaukee.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they probably gave a signal to the Miles Turner camp that they weren't very serious about the negotiation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Otherwise Kevin Pritchard's right, why not do a side and trade and make it better for Miles Turner too?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, they had to have
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[SPEAKER_01]: They had to have given off the signal that they just were going in a different direction.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but here's what I think to I really think part of it was, I think Miles, and they said it was for family.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think he wanted the deal done.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but to be honest, Milwaukee doesn't really have a lot to sign in trade with pictures.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're not going to give up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They were not giving up Gianna's for Miles' turn on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're not doing that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Can't believe Milwaukee went and signed Miles because they think they've handicapped that organization for three years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Michelle, my initial reaction was he's Milwaukee's problem now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Here's the thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I said this earlier in our group, texts, and I really do believe this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think the pastors were going to pay him close to, I think they were in the ballpark, what of Milwaukee, but here's where I don't think.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't think they were going to budge on that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I hope people can say sign and trade, but there's a lot more negotiating in that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think Miles wanted it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He wanted his deal, but the Pacers did not, I don't believe they wanted to give a fourth year player option.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't believe they wanted to do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They didn't want to know trade clause, or they didn't want the fifteen percent trade bonus to where they would be, you know, that it would come out of the Pacers pocket if he was traded, he'd get extra money.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I just, I don't think that's what they wanted.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Michelle, I have no idea what Milwaukee was watching to think that they thought.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This guy's way better than Brooke Lopez because this is ridiculous.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're about the same level of lawyer.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but they really kind of watch miles out played Brooke Lopez for two in two straight play.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a little young.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's a little better for sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But to me, I don't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I certainly didn't expect to be a little walkie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We thought it was going to be Dallas.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We thought it was going to be Houston.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We thought it was going to be teams with some cap space and some agility.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We did not think it was going to be Milwaukee in a panic move.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was a panic move, Michelle.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I also read this from like a reporter, I just might have covered some Milwaukee bucks.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he thinks that Milwaukee's getting kind of desperate because, you know, if the city's going to stay, but they don't think if Yana doesn't, if Milwaukee's not better, and they can't compete for a championship, he's going to want out, and then he could actually want out before next season's completed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to tell you something about seven years ago, Miles Turner lied to my face.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just want to tell you this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Did he?
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[SPEAKER_01]: He told me in a conversation once that he would never go to a team voluntarily that was north of Indianapolis.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess he's gotten used to the cold.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because he told me that he said, no way I'm going anywhere colder than this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and Milwaukee is markedly colder than Indianapolis, Michelle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He hasn't seen nothing yet.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you know anything about Miles' family or anything?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Cause I mean, I'm pretty sure I'm in that press conference.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He talked.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He mentioned his family for a while.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So maybe there's family ties to move for some reason up there gets them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was just a guaranteed money.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The the pretty big number.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that was more why he was talking about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want people to think I don't think Miles Turner is a good basketball player because he is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But what I think he is is a backup big who comes in spot minutes and makes three pointers because he certainly doesn't rebound.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's an average defender.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a pretty good web protector, but he's an average on ball defender at best.
11:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I just don't know what will Milwaukee was looking at because I don't see Isaiah Jackson and
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jay Huff is that big of a down the downgrade.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're not as good as he is, but it's not that big of a downgrade.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, and a lot of people really high on Isaiah Jackson.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They think, and they think, they think, give him this next year, improve his, is shooting and everything.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They think you will be, he very well, could be better.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, no.
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[SPEAKER_02]: However, it comes back in two years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I never want to see the Pacers Center take a shot past two feet ever again, Michelle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the rule.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I don't care.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's nice if sinners could step out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That was a joke.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't like it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, but I don't want him hanging out or behind the three.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was exaggerating.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He is not great in the pick and roll either because he does not work hard.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And you, you can't, I mean, the pick and roll are those lobs inside were better when the pacers play small and was it would be top and because it would be top and can win.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When Thomas is right, it was out there too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thomas Bryant was better at it as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what we liked about him in the starting lineup.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It didn't always work out that way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There was a couple of times Thomas Bryant did not fit well with the starting lineup.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But our theory was because he was a guy who didn't need the ball, who was a pick and roll set picks, get rebounds, you know, kind of like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But apparently Michelle will get back on track here, but apparently Thomas Bryant is not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They part of the future.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was hoping that he would be like TJ McConnell and just always be there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I was too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought maybe that they might, because you get that veteran's exemption, which is pretty healing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I hope that they might use that to keep Thomas Bryant and who's to say, I mean, I don't think has, has anybody signed Thomas?
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[SPEAKER_01]: How do I imagine a fifth center of Michelle?
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, I was just thinking that if he's not signed and say one of the, one of the guys get hurt or that would be wonderful.
13:09
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what you should have as you bring it up.
13:13
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's why you should have measure fourth big at all times because he's just that kind of guy.
13:18
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't see Tony Tony.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What's his last name?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Tony Bradley being that guy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just don't understand good at all, Michelle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He did something to win over Carl while they're building me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know I can't believe that they kept Tony Bradley either unless it's just that they wanted.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They wanted him because he is a little bit taller than Thomas Bryant and a little bit cheaper.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, and a little bit cheaper.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think that that said I think he's just I think Tony Bradley.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If there's no major moves by the Pacers he's he's going to this will be it for him because they will have.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They will do something different in the middle.
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[SPEAKER_02]: When Halibut comes back, they're gone on one and maybe it maybe it's Jackson that steps up and is that but I think Tony Bradley beyond one beyond this next year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I certainly don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No offense, Tony, it's not your fault.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And on those people, wise men and Jackson weren't coming off major injuries, that he would figure very much into this anyway.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope you're right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope those two are fantastic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's no proof that they're going to be.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There has been, have been signs that there's hopes that they will be.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So both of them, James, the wise men at times, looked really good early, especially in the preseason last year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What about?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Richard learning about the deal that Turner made with Milwaukee through the same tweet that everybody else found out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was a little.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I will be honest with you in some ways, I think that's the sign of the times and because of this shows you how big social media has gotten.
15:07
[SPEAKER_02]: Shams must have somebody in that agency group that represents Miles Turner.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's talk about the center position now a little bit more.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We talked a little bit about each one of them, but it looks like the rotation is going to be somewhere, Isaiah Jackson, James Wiseman, Jay Hoth.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's hope it's that order.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If the things go well, it would be that order.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure it will be though.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But Jay Hoth made very well in that being the guy at center through circumstance.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But if everything went perfectly, it would be Jackson Wiseman Hoth.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I see why I see why you're bringing a guy like Huff that could probably take that role if he needs to.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And here's what I'm not so sure that the Pacers, at least at the first part of the season, aren't looking at Wiseman and Jackson as one player, meaning because if they're going to ret as they get them into shape and make sure their bodies are all.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Looks that way for sure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So where one place, one night, one's not with Huff then is the backup.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that looks that way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When you have four big signs,
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[SPEAKER_01]: When they signed half it was like, yeah, what they're doing is saying, we'll take two of these three because we're not going to count on all three of them all the time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we're thinking of wise men and Jackson is one player because they're coming up major entries.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's hope it's a problem that they both play a hundred games next year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So Richard didn't say these words, Michelle, but he essentially said, we like the center position right now better than where it was at the end of last season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I agree.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Where you were counting on Thomas Bryant and Tony Bradley, even without Miles Turner.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And once again, nice player is going to be an all-time passer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No doubt about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Muddy can get his name up there in that ring of honor.
17:01
[SPEAKER_01]: But he wasn't the right fit with the Pacers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I believe that I believe that a lob guy like Isaiah Jackson, a guy who gets rebound to fights for rebounds.
17:12
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the key.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Miles Turner would average five and a half rebounds with two of them being contested rebounds.
17:17
[SPEAKER_01]: That was my issue.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Isaiah Jackson fights for rebounds.
17:21
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think what we like Thomas Price, because he was a scrapper, he'd go, he could dive into the floor to grab a rebound.
17:27
[SPEAKER_02]: And we can never even see Miles Turner bend over to get a rebound off the court.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't say never, but it was or go to the floor.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He wouldn't go to the floor.
17:36
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's put it that way.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He wasn't going down on his knees.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There were some times in the postseason where what was he doing there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But all you had to do is bend over and pick up the ball and somebody beat him to it.
17:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I was tired of seeing that Michelle.
17:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, and he plays defense, he's kind of hands down in his sides too often.
17:56
[SPEAKER_02]: It's one of the reasons he's not a good rebounder because he does not, he plays with his hands down at the sides.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Soft.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just the soft center.
18:05
[SPEAKER_01]: And again, if your power forward is Dennis Rodman, then it's no problem with him playing that role.
18:13
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what Bill and Beard did shoot three pointers.
18:15
[SPEAKER_01]: And it worked out well because Dennis Rodman was doing the dirty work.
18:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Pascal Siacam is not that player.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Miles and Pascal's games are too similar.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that is not, that is not going to work.
18:27
[SPEAKER_02]: No.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And if similar games of the tube, Pascal or Miles, what do you want?
18:34
[SPEAKER_02]: You want Pascal.
18:35
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that's, that's not right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Literally, not even close.
18:39
[SPEAKER_01]: So let's hope it works out for the better.
18:40
[SPEAKER_01]: I think the Pacers are a top foreseed.
18:43
[SPEAKER_01]: The talk around the NBA experts is that they're a borderline playoff to you.
18:50
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think so either.
18:50
[SPEAKER_02]: The only thing that would make them a borderline playoff team is if possibly if Nim hard or nasum is suffered a big major injury or they would.
19:00
[SPEAKER_01]: If they just wanted to get it.
19:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Or if none of them take the step that we expect them to, they would have to be it because between mother and Walker, niece, myth, and Nim hard, you expect at least two of them to make it hugely right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And there are others as well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Don't you think this is Walker's prove it or I sure hope so or move it year if he doesn't prove himself they will be moved.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I just don't I don't think you can I don't think you can I don't want you don't want a guy still project in year four.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He still be a senior college Michelle.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, not two years he won't be I'm talking about this year this year if you're still looking in him to be developed
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[SPEAKER_02]: Next year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If he's still in college, Michelle, he would still be a senior right now as my point.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a little time to allow for some growth, but you're right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is a perfect year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it really is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he's got at least he shows potential.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's at least got a show consistency and I think that's what he has it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not shown consistency and Michelle, he is the key to the future of this franchise.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think one of the reasons.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And when you look at the future, I think one of the reasons that they really like and brought in Cam Jones is because your guy, TJ McConnell is thirty five.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm not sure they see him wanting to pay his salary in two years.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that if this Jones was going to have a chance in the next couple of years to show that he can be that backup combo guard.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, Michelle, we're going to have five minutes left.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's talk about the two newcomers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What we've learned about them and what we expect from the summer league team and our guy, Johnny Furthy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Of course, those second round picks were Cam Jones and Taylor and Peters.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Kevin, preacher, did mention both of them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He did say he's excited about both of them, but understands that they're both second round draft picks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the future of the franchise is not hinging on either one of them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But both of them have, when he saw them playing in the summer league, he said, when he saw them, they were paces.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He saw both of them, those guys are paces.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And both of them have some measurables that would lead you to believe that they could be future players.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it'll be an interesting summer league.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It will be an interesting summer league.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I know there are second runners, but there's nothing that says that
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[SPEAKER_02]: One or two of them might not see some action this year, and I know Jones is a little bit of a hamstring, but what they like about this Peter's, he's a phenomenal shooter, both the way the Pacers like to stretch out and do things and you put a guy at it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so great athlete, decent size phenomenal shooter.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You can always have guys that you're not down three.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's that's the nice thing and be interesting to see how they do I'll probably try to watch a summer league game or two.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know kind of sometimes it's hard to catch us because one I forget I forget it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: replays on YouTube are easy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You'll be reminded, Michelle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It starts July, Tim.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know who they play or what.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I never matters to me who they're playing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All I want to do is see three or four guys who I think could have an impact on the future.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Those are two of them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Of course, Johnny Fofi being the other.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to call this summer Johnny Fofi watch.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's an intriguing player.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I hope this summer he really works hard on on his defense because that is where he really, he's an exciting hustler and he brings energy and fans love him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think a lot like they do TJ because he brings that energy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's just his defense is just not super impressive.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's I'm hoping that he really goes to work on that this summer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Interesting to see how much of an impact Quentin Jackson has because
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[SPEAKER_01]: He may have to step up a role with how I'm burdened down.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And there were times last year even with the big club where it was like, Hey, this guy's six five point guard might just have it.
23:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Isn't he's he's a free agent though, too, right now, just like Isaiah Jackson once I thought.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought I read that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's on the summer league.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's on the summer league on the show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That is a possibility and in the summer league that they still move even though when they're on the summer league team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I believe they expect him to be back and in the UK for even two is another guy who you're probably not going to expect much from but could add some depth if he continues to improve.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll be interested.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The great thing is, Rick Karla and his staff have shown that they can develop these players.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you get the, yeah, the right players with the culture, and I think that's, I think that's what I really took out of Kevin Pritchard's press conference today is, superstars don't matter to him if they're not going to fit in the locker room and not along the bench.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's fine.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll, instead, I'll take two or three
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[SPEAKER_02]: Air neespis, you know, guys like that, I'm not sure if you're charging, I'll bring them in and we'll, we'll go, we'll go win and compete for an NBA title, which is what they did this year.
24:31
[SPEAKER_02]: And I like that, because like, too many people will get hung up on superstars and thinking that that's what you need to get your team to the finals.
24:43
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's not, it's team chemistry is so important.
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[SPEAKER_01]: that always has been superstars in the past.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This year kind of showed that the team concept has become, especially with the depth of talent, I think, is the reason that this is changing.
24:57
[SPEAKER_01]: There's so much talent in the NBA, the more you can compile on your roster, the better, which brings this again to a couple more summer league people that I want to mention because they're interesting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We will have a summer league preview with Mike Rich coming up later this week, but Ray J. Dennis got some time with the Pacers last year, like what he brought.
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[SPEAKER_01]: uh he and Enrique Freeman were teammates in college uh and then uh of course.
25:23
[SPEAKER_01]: You know those guys that you always hate in college because they play for the other team.
25:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Of course, because to say it to a managa from Nebraska was that guy for Nebraska always hated when he was playing against Purdue because.
25:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I hated that guy, but I'm glad he's on our team now, so.
25:42
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I did.
25:43
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he was always a killer because when he played out YouTube when he was a killer.
25:49
[SPEAKER_01]: He was a killer man and Buddy Bayheim is on the Pacers roster this year moving over from Oklahoma City's G lead team.
25:57
[SPEAKER_01]: So hey, a win for the Pacers over Oklahoma City, we got Buddy Bayheim.
26:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Of course, the son of legend, Jim Bayheim.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So Jim Bayheim right now is a Pacers fan, Michelle.
26:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's remind people that if they want to go, if they haven't seen the entirety of Kevin Richards press conference, all they have to do is go to YouTube under the innovators and they can do it.
26:23
[SPEAKER_02]: And they can hit YouTube for our podcast and they need to do whatever it's, it's fantastic.
26:31
[SPEAKER_01]: That's right, as everyone's watching on YouTube right now, the fancy new stuff going on.
26:35
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm learning every day Michelle about YouTube and it's just going to get better and better.
26:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Eventually, when I learn all the legal stuff will have highlights, I know how to do it now.
26:45
[SPEAKER_01]: But the WNBA said, hey, wait a second, you're using our, and I was like, well, I don't know the rules.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why don't I do something different for now?
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[SPEAKER_01]: But eventually we will have highlights.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You've learned a more and more every single day about that.
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