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Her (2013) · Verbal Diorama

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  Hi,
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  everyone.
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  I'm
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  Em,
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  and
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  welcome
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  to
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  Verbal
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  Diorama,
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  episode
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  340,
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  Her.
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  This
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  is
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  the
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  podcast
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  that's
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  all
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  about
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  the
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  history
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  and
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  legacy
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  of
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  movies
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  you
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  know,
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  and
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  movies
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  you
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  don't.
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  And
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  I
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  just
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  bought
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  one
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  of
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  the
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  new
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  ai
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  os's.
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  He
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  told
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  me
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  his
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  name
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  is
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  Claude
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  and
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  he's
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  actually
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  a
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  really
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  sweet
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  guy.
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  Welcome
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  to
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  Verbal
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  Diorama.
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  Whether
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  you're
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  so
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  much
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  for
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  being
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  here.
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  Thank
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  you
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  so
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  much
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  for
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  choosing
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  to
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  listen
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  to
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  this
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  podcast.
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  I'm
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  so
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  happy
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  to
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  have
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  you
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  here
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  for
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  the
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  history
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  and
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  legacy
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  of
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  her.
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  And
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  if
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  you
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  are
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  a
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  regular
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  returning
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  listener,
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  thank
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  you
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  so
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  much
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  for
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  continuing
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  to
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  come
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  back
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  and
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  listen
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  to
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  this
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  podcast
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  and
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  support
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  this
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  podcast
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  for
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  a
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  long
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  time.
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  Over
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  seven
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  years
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  and
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  now
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  340
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  episodes.
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  Thank
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  you
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  so
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  much
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  for
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  your
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  support.
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  It
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  genuinely
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  means
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  so
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  much,
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  especially
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  to
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  a
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  little
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  indie
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  podcast
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  like
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  me,
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  who
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  does
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  everything
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  herself.
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  And
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  so
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  I
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  really
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  do
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  rely
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  on
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  the
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  regular
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  returning
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  listeners
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  coming
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  back.
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  So
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  thank
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  you
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  so
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  much
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  for
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  that.
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  This
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  month
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  on
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  the
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  podcast
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  has
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  been
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  so
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  interesting.
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  I
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  have
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  wanted
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  to
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  focus
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  on
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  our
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  ongoing
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  cinematic
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  relationship
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  with
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  AI
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  I've
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  coined
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  the
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  month
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  A
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  April
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  because
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  I
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  love
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  a
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  good
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  pun
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  name.
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  And
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  AI
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  is
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  a
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  topic
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  that's
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  rarely
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  out
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  of
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  the
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  news
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  for
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  many
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  different
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  reasons.
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  Mostly
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  bad,
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  because
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  not
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  many
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  people
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  actually
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  like
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  or
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  trust
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  AI.
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  And
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  I
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  think
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  there's
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  a
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  good
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  reason
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  for
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  that.
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  But
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  there's
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  also
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  some
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  good
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  reasons
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  that
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  AI
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  is
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  in
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  the
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  news.
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  But
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  the
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  way
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  cinema
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  has
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  depicted
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  AI
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  has
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  been
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  very
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  different
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  over
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  the
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  decades.
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  And
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  I
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  started
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  this
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  season
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  in
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  the
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  80s
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  with
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  Short
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  Circuit,
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  which
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  hasn't
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  aged
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  very
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  well,
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  let's
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  be
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  honest.
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  But
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  number
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  five
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  has,
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  and
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  I
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  still
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  think
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  he
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  is
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  wonderful.
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  Then
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  we
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  moved
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  into
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  the
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  2000s
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  with
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  Minority
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  Report,
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  which
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  isn't
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  technically
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  based
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  on
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  AI
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  but
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  there's
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  a
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  lot
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  of
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  stuff
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  in
• 5:56
  there
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  about
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  how
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  companies
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  might
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  advertise
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  or
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  market
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  things
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  to
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  us,
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  which
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  is
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  in
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  fact
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  actually
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  happening
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  now.
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  A
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  lot
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  of
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  that
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  movie
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  predicts
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  the
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  future,
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  our
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  reality,
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  with
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  a
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  startling
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  amount
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  of
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  accuracy.
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  And
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  we're
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  now
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  in
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  the
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  2010s,
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  and
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  AI
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  is
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  starting
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  to
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  become
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  something
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  of
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  the
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  very
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  near
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  future.
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  But
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  director
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  Spike
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  Jones
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  still
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  probably
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  didn't
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  think
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  it
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  would
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  also
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  become
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  so
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  startlingly
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  accurate.
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  In
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  fact,
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  her
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  both
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  perfectly
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  explains
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  and
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  teaches
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  us
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  where
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  the
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  near
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  future
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  of
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  AI
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  might
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  take
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  us.
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  The
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  Stuff
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  that
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  hasn't
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  come
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  true
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  yet,
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  at
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  the
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  very
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  least.
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  Because,
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  let's
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  be
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  honest.
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  Most
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  of
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  this
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  movie
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  now
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  has
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  come
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  true.
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  Here's
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  the
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  trailer
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  for
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  her.
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  Theodore
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  Twombly
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  is
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  a
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  lonely
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  man
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  in
• 10:09
  the
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  final
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  stages
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  of
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  his
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  divorce.
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  When
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  he's
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  not
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  working
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  as
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  a
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  letter
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  writer.
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  His
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  downtime
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  is
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  spent
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  playing
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  video
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  games.
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  And
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  occasionally
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  hanging
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  out
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  with
• 10:17
  friends.
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  He
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  buys
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  a
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  brand
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  new
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  OS
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  one,
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  which
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  is
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  advertised
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  as
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  the
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  world's
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  first
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  artificially
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  intelligent
• 10:24
  operating
• 10:25
  system.
• 10:26
  Theodore
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  quickly
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  finds
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  himself
• 10:28
  drawn
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  to
• 10:29
  Samantha,
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  the
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  voice
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  behind
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  his
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  OS
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  one.
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  As
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  they
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  start
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  spending
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  time
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  together,
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  they
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  grow
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  closer.
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  And
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  eventually
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  find
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  themselves
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  in
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  love.
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  Theodore
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  finds
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  himself
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  dealing
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  with
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  feelings
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  of
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  both
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  joy
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  and
• 10:43
  doubt.
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  He
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  meets
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  with
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  his
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  ex
• 10:45
  wife,
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  Catherine,
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  to
• 10:46
  sign
• 10:46
  their
• 10:47
  divorce
• 10:47
  papers.
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  And
• 10:48
  when
• 10:48
  he
• 10:48
  mentions
• 10:49
  Samantha.
• 10:50
  Catherine
• 10:50
  is
• 10:50
  appalled
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  that
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  he's
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  romantically
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  attracted
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  to
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  a
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  computer.
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  And
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  accuses
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  him
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  of
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  being
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  unable
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  to
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  handle
• 10:56
  real
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  human
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  Emotions
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  after
• 10:58
  a
• 10:58
  sex
• 10:59
  surrogate
• 10:59
  encounter
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  makes
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  him
• 11:00
  uncomfortable,
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  Samantha
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  briefly
• 11:02
  goes
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  offline
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  and
• 11:04
  Theodore
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  struggles
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  to
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  cope
• 11:05
  without
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  her.
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  Let's
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  run
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  through
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  the
• 11:08
  cast.
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  We
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  have
• 11:09
  Joaquin
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  Phoenix
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  as
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  Theodore
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  Twombly,
• 11:12
  Scarlett
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  Johansson
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  as
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  Samantha,
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  Amy
• 11:15
  Adams
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  as
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  Amy,
• 11:17
  Rooney
• 11:18
  Mara
• 11:18
  as
• 11:19
  Catherine,
• 11:19
  Olivia
• 11:20
  Wilde
• 11:21
  as
• 11:21
  the
• 11:21
  blind
• 11:21
  date,
• 11:22
  Matt
• 11:23
  Letcher
• 11:23
  as
• 11:24
  Charles
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  and
• 11:25
  Chris
• 11:25
  Pratt
• 11:26
  as
• 11:26
  Paul.
• 11:27
  It
• 11:27
  also
• 11:27
  features
• 11:28
  voice
• 11:28
  cameos
• 11:29
  by
• 11:29
  Kristin
• 11:29
  Wiig,
• 11:30
  Bill
• 11:30
  Hader
• 11:31
  and
• 11:31
  Brian
• 11:31
  Cox.
• 11:32
  Her
• 11:33
  was
• 11:33
  written
• 11:34
  and
• 11:34
  directed
• 11:34
  by
• 11:35
  Spike
• 11:35
  Jonze.
• 11:37
  Sometimes
• 11:38
  the
• 11:38
  end
• 11:38
  of
• 11:38
  a
• 11:38
  marriage
• 11:39
  is
• 11:39
  just
• 11:39
  traumatic,
• 11:40
  painful
• 11:41
  and
• 11:41
  financially
• 11:42
  ruining.
• 11:43
  Sometimes
• 11:43
  it's
• 11:44
  mutual
• 11:44
  and
• 11:45
  you
• 11:45
  both
• 11:45
  move
• 11:45
  on
• 11:46
  to
• 11:46
  bigger
• 11:46
  and
• 11:46
  better
• 11:46
  things.
• 11:47
  And
• 11:47
  sometimes
• 11:49
  two
• 11:49
  award
• 11:49
  winning
• 11:50
  movies
• 11:50
  can
• 11:50
  come
• 11:51
  out
• 11:51
  of
• 11:51
  that
• 11:52
  marriage.
• 11:53
  Both
• 11:53
  would
• 11:53
  win
• 11:54
  Best
• 11:54
  Original
• 11:54
  Screenplay
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  Interestingly.
• 11:56
  Spoiler
• 11:56
  for
• 11:57
  the
• 11:57
  awards
• 11:57
  section
• 11:57
  I
• 11:58
  guess.
• 11:59
  Spike
• 11:59
  Jonze
• 11:59
  and
• 12:00
  Sophia
• 12:00
  Coppola
• 12:01
  met
• 12:01
  in
• 12:02
  1992,
• 12:03
  married
• 12:03
  in
• 12:03
  1999
• 12:04
  and
• 12:05
  divorced
• 12:05
  in
• 12:05
  2003.
• 12:07
  In
• 12:07
  2003
• 12:08
  Coppola
• 12:09
  released
• 12:10
  her
• 12:10
  most
• 12:10
  acclaimed
• 12:11
  movie,
• 12:11
  Lost
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  in
• 12:12
  Translation,
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  which
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  is
• 12:13
  also
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  on
• 12:14
  the
• 12:14
  list
• 12:14
  for
• 12:14
  this
• 12:14
  podcast.
• 12:15
  By
• 12:15
  the
• 12:15
  way,
• 12:16
  Lost
• 12:16
  in
• 12:16
  Translation
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  featured
• 12:17
  a
• 12:18
  young
• 12:18
  married
• 12:18
  couple,
• 12:19
  successful
• 12:20
  celebrity
• 12:20
  photographer
• 12:21
  John,
• 12:21
  who
• 12:22
  leaves
• 12:22
  his
• 12:22
  new
• 12:22
  wife
• 12:23
  Charlotte
• 12:23
  at
• 12:23
  the
• 12:24
  hotel
• 12:24
  where
• 12:25
  she
• 12:25
  meets
• 12:25
  a
• 12:25
  burnt
• 12:26
  out
• 12:26
  movie
• 12:26
  star
• 12:27
  in
• 12:27
  his
• 12:27
  50s
• 12:28
  and
• 12:28
  they
• 12:28
  strike
• 12:29
  up
• 12:29
  an
• 12:29
  unusual
• 12:29
  friendship.
• 12:31
  It's
• 12:31
  a
• 12:31
  story
• 12:31
  about
• 12:32
  profound
• 12:32
  loneliness
• 12:33
  and
• 12:33
  finding
• 12:34
  human
• 12:34
  connection
• 12:35
  as
• 12:35
  well
• 12:36
  as
• 12:36
  searching
• 12:36
  for
• 12:37
  meaning
• 12:37
  in
• 12:37
  an
• 12:37
  often
• 12:38
  meaningless
• 12:39
  modern
• 12:39
  world.
• 12:40
  Lost
• 12:40
  in
• 12:40
  Translation
• 12:41
  was
• 12:41
  written
• 12:41
  and
• 12:41
  directed
• 12:42
  by
• 12:42
  Coppola
• 12:43
  right
• 12:43
  at
• 12:43
  the
• 12:43
  time
• 12:44
  her
• 12:44
  marriage
• 12:44
  to
• 12:44
  Jones
• 12:45
  was
• 12:45
  failing.
• 12:46
  She's
• 12:47
  openly
• 12:47
  admitted
• 12:47
  that
• 12:48
  John,
• 12:48
  the
• 12:48
  character
• 12:49
  played
• 12:49
  by
• 12:49
  Giovanni
• 12:50
  Ribisi,
• 12:51
  is
• 12:51
  partially
• 12:52
  based
• 12:52
  on
• 12:52
  her
• 12:52
  ex
• 12:53
  husband.
• 12:54
  Charlotte,
• 12:55
  played
• 12:55
  by
• 12:56
  Scarlett
• 12:56
  Johansson,
• 12:57
  is
• 12:57
  the
• 12:58
  Sofia
• 12:58
  Coppola
• 12:59
  10
• 13:00
  years
• 13:00
  after
• 13:00
  their
• 13:00
  divorce.
• 13:01
  It
• 13:01
  then
• 13:02
  inspired
• 13:02
  another
• 13:02
  movie,
• 13:03
  also
• 13:04
  about
• 13:04
  profound
• 13:05
  loneliness
• 13:05
  and
• 13:06
  finding
• 13:06
  human
• 13:06
  connection
• 13:07
  as
• 13:07
  well
• 13:08
  as
• 13:08
  searching
• 13:08
  for
• 13:08
  meaning
• 13:09
  in
• 13:09
  an
• 13:09
  often
• 13:10
  meaningless
• 13:10
  modern
• 13:11
  world.
• 13:11
  This
• 13:12
  time
• 13:12
  written
• 13:13
  and
• 13:13
  directed
• 13:14
  by
• 13:14
  Spike
• 13:14
  Jonze
• 13:15
  and
• 13:16
  the
• 13:16
  movie
• 13:17
  is
• 13:17
  her.
• 13:18
  And
• 13:18
  the
• 13:18
  her
• 13:19
  in
• 13:19
  question
• 13:20
  is
• 13:20
  also
• 13:20
  played
• 13:21
  by
• 13:21
  Scarlett
• 13:21
  Johansson.
• 13:23
  But
• 13:23
  Samantha
• 13:24
  is
• 13:24
  not
• 13:24
  the
• 13:24
  Sofia
• 13:25
  Coppola
• 13:25
  of
• 13:25
  the
• 13:26
  story
• 13:26
  this
• 13:26
  time
• 13:26
  that
• 13:27
  honour
• 13:27
  went
• 13:27
  to
• 13:27
  Rooney
• 13:28
  Mara
• 13:28
  and
• 13:29
  more
• 13:29
  on
• 13:29
  her
• 13:30
  a
• 13:30
  little
• 13:30
  later.
• 13:31
  So
• 13:32
  the
• 13:32
  broken
• 13:32
  marriage
• 13:32
  of
• 13:33
  Spike
• 13:33
  Jonze
• 13:33
  and
• 13:33
  Sofia
• 13:34
  Coppola
• 13:35
  actually
• 13:35
  was
• 13:35
  pretty
• 13:36
  fruitful
• 13:37
  and
• 13:37
  poor
• 13:37
  jobless
• 13:38
  actor
• 13:38
  Scarlett
• 13:39
  Johansson
• 13:39
  got
• 13:40
  work
• 13:40
  from
• 13:40
  it
• 13:40
  too,
• 13:40
  which
• 13:41
  I'm
• 13:41
  sure
• 13:41
  she
• 13:41
  was
• 13:41
  very
• 13:41
  grateful
• 13:42
  for.
• 13:43
  But
• 13:43
  it
• 13:44
  wasn't
• 13:44
  just
• 13:44
  the
• 13:44
  breakdown
• 13:45
  of
• 13:45
  his
• 13:45
  marriage
• 13:45
  that
• 13:45
  fueled
• 13:46
  the
• 13:46
  screenplay.
• 13:47
  It
• 13:47
  was
• 13:47
  AI
• 13:48
  itself.
• 13:49
  In
• 13:49
  the
• 13:49
  early
• 13:50
  2000s,
• 13:50
  right
• 13:51
  around
• 13:51
  the
• 13:51
  time
• 13:51
  of
• 13:51
  his
• 13:52
  divorce,
• 13:52
  he
• 13:53
  saw
• 13:53
  an
• 13:53
  article
• 13:53
  linking
• 13:54
  to
• 13:54
  a
• 13:54
  website
• 13:54
  where
• 13:55
  you
• 13:55
  could
• 13:55
  instant
• 13:55
  message
• 13:56
  with
• 13:56
  artificial
• 13:57
  intelligence.
• 13:58
  It
• 13:58
  was
• 13:59
  pretty
• 13:59
  rudimentary,
• 14:00
  a
• 14:00
  limited
• 14:01
  chatbot
• 14:01
  that
• 14:01
  could
• 14:01
  respond
• 14:02
  to
• 14:02
  certain
• 14:02
  commands,
• 14:03
  but
• 14:03
  for
• 14:03
  the
• 14:04
  first
• 14:04
  20
• 14:04
  seconds
• 14:05
  or
• 14:05
  so
• 14:05
  it
• 14:06
  was
• 14:06
  fascinating
• 14:07
  and
• 14:07
  the
• 14:07
  more
• 14:07
  people
• 14:08
  talked
• 14:08
  to
• 14:09
  it,
• 14:09
  the
• 14:09
  smarter
• 14:10
  it
• 14:10
  got.
• 14:11
  Something
• 14:11
  that
• 14:11
  large
• 14:12
  language
• 14:12
  models
• 14:13
  or
• 14:13
  LLMs
• 14:14
  are
• 14:14
  doing
• 14:14
  today
• 14:15
  in
• 14:15
  the
• 14:15
  sophisticated
• 14:16
  AI
• 14:16
  chatbots
• 14:17
  of
• 14:17
  the
• 14:17
  mid-2020s.
• 14:19
  Spike
• 14:20
  Jonze
• 14:20
  himself
• 14:21
  is
• 14:21
  a
• 14:21
  bit
• 14:21
  of
• 14:21
  an
• 14:22
  enigmatic
• 14:22
  film
• 14:22
  director,
• 14:23
  having
• 14:24
  only
• 14:24
  four
• 14:24
  feature
• 14:25
  length
• 14:25
  movies
• 14:25
  to
• 14:25
  his
• 14:26
  name
• 14:26
  despite
• 14:27
  his
• 14:27
  name
• 14:27
  being
• 14:28
  pretty
• 14:28
  well
• 14:28
  known
• 14:29
  and
• 14:29
  well
• 14:29
  respected
• 14:30
  in
• 14:30
  the
• 14:30
  industry.
• 14:31
  His
• 14:31
  career
• 14:32
  started
• 14:32
  as
• 14:32
  a
• 14:32
  photographer
• 14:33
  and
• 14:33
  videographer
• 14:34
  of
• 14:34
  sports
• 14:34
  like
• 14:35
  BMX
• 14:35
  and
• 14:36
  skateboarding.
• 14:37
  He
• 14:37
  spent
• 14:37
  most
• 14:38
  of
• 14:38
  his
• 14:38
  career
• 14:38
  directing
• 14:39
  ads
• 14:39
  and
• 14:39
  music
• 14:40
  videos.
• 14:40
  He
• 14:41
  directed
• 14:41
  the
• 14:41
  Music
• 14:42
  video
• 14:42
  for
• 14:42
  Weezer's
• 14:43
  song
• 14:43
  Buddy
• 14:43
  Holly
• 14:44
  in
• 14:44
  1994
• 14:45
  if
• 14:45
  you
• 14:46
  know,
• 14:46
  you
• 14:46
  know,
• 14:46
  alongside
• 14:47
  music
• 14:47
  videos
• 14:48
  for
• 14:48
  the
• 14:48
  Beastie
• 14:49
  Boys,
• 14:49
  sure
• 14:49
  Shot
• 14:50
  and
• 14:50
  sabotage.
• 14:51
  In
• 14:52
  1995
• 14:52
  he
• 14:53
  collaborated
• 14:53
  with
• 14:53
  Bjork
• 14:54
  for
• 14:54
  the
• 14:54
  music
• 14:55
  video
• 14:55
  for
• 14:55
  her
• 14:55
  biggest
• 14:56
  international
• 14:56
  hit
• 14:57
  it's
• 14:57
  oh
• 14:58
  so
• 14:58
  Quiet
• 14:58
  and
• 14:59
  in
• 14:59
  1999
• 15:00
  on
• 15:00
  Praise
• 15:00
  You
• 15:01
  for
• 15:01
  Fat
• 15:01
  Boy
• 15:02
  Slim.
• 15:03
  Also
• 15:03
  in
• 15:03
  1999
• 15:04
  his
• 15:04
  directorial
• 15:05
  debut
• 15:05
  feature
• 15:06
  length
• 15:06
  movie
• 15:07
  was
• 15:07
  released,
• 15:07
  a
• 15:08
  surrealist
• 15:09
  fantasy
• 15:09
  comedy
• 15:09
  drama
• 15:10
  about
• 15:10
  a
• 15:10
  puppeteer
• 15:11
  who
• 15:11
  finds
• 15:12
  a
• 15:12
  portal
• 15:12
  that
• 15:12
  leads
• 15:13
  into
• 15:13
  the
• 15:13
  mind
• 15:14
  of
• 15:14
  a
• 15:14
  fictional
• 15:15
  version
• 15:15
  of
• 15:15
  Academy
• 15:16
  Award
• 15:16
  nominated
• 15:17
  actor
• 15:17
  John
• 15:17
  Malkovich.
• 15:19
  Being
• 15:19
  John
• 15:20
  Malkovich
• 15:20
  was
• 15:21
  written
• 15:21
  by
• 15:21
  Charlie
• 15:21
  Kaufman
• 15:22
  on
• 15:22
  spec,
• 15:23
  sent
• 15:23
  to
• 15:23
  Francis
• 15:24
  Ford
• 15:24
  Coppola,
• 15:25
  who
• 15:25
  passed
• 15:25
  it
• 15:25
  to
• 15:26
  his
• 15:26
  daughter
• 15:26
  Sofia,
• 15:27
  who
• 15:27
  passed
• 15:28
  it
• 15:28
  to
• 15:28
  her
• 15:28
  then
• 15:28
  boyfriend,
• 15:29
  specifically
• 15:29
  Spike
• 15:29
  Jonze.
• 15:30
  He
• 15:31
  followed
• 15:31
  that
• 15:31
  in
• 15:31
  2002
• 15:32
  with
• 15:32
  Adaptation
• 15:33
  starring
• 15:34
  Nicolas
• 15:34
  Cage,
• 15:35
  the
• 15:35
  cousin
• 15:35
  of
• 15:36
  his
• 15:36
  then
• 15:36
  wife
• 15:37
  Sophia
• 15:37
  Coppola.
• 15:38
  And
• 15:38
  in
• 15:38
  2009
• 15:39
  he
• 15:40
  directed
• 15:40
  the
• 15:40
  long
• 15:41
  gestating
• 15:41
  adaptation
• 15:42
  of
• 15:42
  where
• 15:43
  the
• 15:43
  Wild
• 15:43
  Things
• 15:43
  Are,
• 15:44
  which
• 15:44
  he
• 15:44
  also
• 15:45
  co
• 15:45
  wrote
• 15:45
  and
• 15:46
  spent
• 15:46
  five
• 15:47
  years
• 15:47
  working
• 15:47
  on.
• 15:49
  He
• 15:49
  then
• 15:49
  made
• 15:49
  a
• 15:50
  short
• 15:50
  film
• 15:50
  in
• 15:50
  2010,
• 15:51
  I'm
• 15:52
  Here
• 15:52
  starring
• 15:52
  Andrew
• 15:53
  Garfield,
• 15:54
  an
• 15:54
  la
• 15:54
  love
• 15:55
  story
• 15:55
  about
• 15:55
  robots
• 15:56
  where
• 15:56
  romantic
• 15:57
  and
• 15:57
  existential
• 15:57
  matters
• 15:58
  are
• 15:58
  connected
• 15:59
  to
• 15:59
  and
• 15:59
  after
• 16:00
  where
• 16:00
  the
• 16:00
  Wild
• 16:00
  Things
• 16:01
  Are.
• 16:01
  The
• 16:01
  idea
• 16:02
  of
• 16:02
  doing
• 16:02
  a
• 16:02
  short
• 16:03
  film
• 16:03
  in
• 16:03
  a
• 16:03
  few
• 16:04
  months
• 16:04
  as
• 16:04
  opposed
• 16:04
  to
• 16:05
  doing
• 16:05
  a
• 16:05
  big
• 16:05
  film
• 16:06
  in
• 16:06
  five
• 16:06
  years
• 16:07
  was
• 16:07
  actually
• 16:07
  really
• 16:08
  appealing
• 16:08
  to
• 16:08
  him.
• 16:09
  But
• 16:10
  still
• 16:10
  in
• 16:10
  the
• 16:11
  background
• 16:11
  he
• 16:11
  had
• 16:12
  50
• 16:12
  plus
• 16:12
  pages
• 16:13
  of
• 16:13
  notes
• 16:14
  for
• 16:14
  this
• 16:14
  AI
• 16:15
  movie
• 16:16
  and
• 16:16
  when
• 16:16
  he
• 16:16
  finally
• 16:17
  sat
• 16:17
  down
• 16:17
  to
• 16:17
  write
• 16:17
  a
• 16:18
  draft
• 16:18
  screenplay,
• 16:19
  it
• 16:19
  took
• 16:19
  him
• 16:19
  five
• 16:20
  months
• 16:20
  to
• 16:20
  finish.
• 16:21
  It
• 16:21
  wasn't
• 16:22
  called
• 16:22
  her
• 16:22
  at
• 16:23
  this
• 16:23
  point,
• 16:23
  but
• 16:24
  actually
• 16:25
  Untitled
• 16:25
  Rick
• 16:26
  Howard
• 16:26
  project.
• 16:27
  In
• 16:27
  April
• 16:28
  2011
• 16:28
  he
• 16:29
  sent
• 16:29
  it
• 16:29
  to
• 16:29
  a
• 16:29
  few
• 16:29
  friends,
• 16:30
  including
• 16:31
  his
• 16:31
  agent
• 16:31
  Brian
• 16:32
  Lord,
• 16:32
  who
• 16:33
  encouraged
• 16:33
  him
• 16:33
  to
• 16:33
  send
• 16:34
  it
• 16:34
  out.
• 16:35
  Just
• 16:35
  a
• 16:35
  couple
• 16:35
  of
• 16:36
  years
• 16:36
  before,
• 16:36
  Megan
• 16:37
  Ellison
• 16:37
  had
• 16:38
  founded
• 16:38
  Annapurna
• 16:39
  Pictures,
• 16:39
  a
• 16:39
  production
• 16:40
  company
• 16:40
  dedicated
• 16:41
  to
• 16:41
  producing
• 16:42
  and
• 16:42
  distributing
• 16:43
  experimental
• 16:44
  art
• 16:44
  films
• 16:44
  by
• 16:45
  auteur
• 16:45
  directors.
• 16:47
  Ellison
• 16:47
  was
• 16:47
  key
• 16:48
  to
• 16:48
  getting
• 16:48
  the
• 16:48
  finance
• 16:49
  required
• 16:49
  for
• 16:49
  her
• 16:50
  and
• 16:50
  would
• 16:51
  become
• 16:51
  the
• 16:51
  first
• 16:51
  woman
• 16:52
  to
• 16:52
  receive
• 16:52
  two
• 16:53
  Best
• 16:53
  Picture
• 16:53
  Academy
• 16:54
  Award
• 16:54
  nominations
• 16:55
  in
• 16:55
  the
• 16:56
  same
• 16:56
  year
• 16:56
  for
• 16:57
  her
• 16:57
  and
• 16:57
  American
• 16:58
  Hustle.
• 16:58
  More
• 16:59
  spoilers
• 16:59
  I
• 16:59
  guess
• 17:00
  for
• 17:00
  the
• 17:00
  awards
• 17:00
  section.
• 17:02
  One
• 17:02
  of
• 17:03
  the
• 17:03
  first
• 17:03
  actors
• 17:03
  Jonze
• 17:04
  had
• 17:04
  in
• 17:04
  mind
• 17:04
  was
• 17:05
  Joaquin
• 17:05
  Phoenix,
• 17:06
  who
• 17:06
  had
• 17:07
  auditioned
• 17:07
  for
• 17:07
  a
• 17:07
  role
• 17:08
  in
• 17:08
  Adaptation.
• 17:09
  Jonze
• 17:10
  delivered
• 17:10
  the
• 17:10
  script
• 17:10
  to
• 17:10
  Phoenix
• 17:11
  personally
• 17:12
  and
• 17:12
  Phoenix
• 17:13
  text
• 17:13
  the
• 17:13
  director
• 17:14
  telling
• 17:14
  him
• 17:14
  he
• 17:14
  loved
• 17:15
  it.
• 17:16
  Phoenix
• 17:16
  officially
• 17:17
  signed
• 17:17
  on
• 17:17
  in
• 17:17
  late
• 17:18
  2011.
• 17:19
  Carey
• 17:20
  Mulligan
• 17:20
  also
• 17:21
  entered
• 17:21
  negotiations
• 17:22
  to
• 17:22
  star
• 17:22
  as
• 17:22
  Catherine,
• 17:23
  but
• 17:24
  she
• 17:24
  would
• 17:24
  later
• 17:24
  drop
• 17:24
  out
• 17:25
  due
• 17:25
  to
• 17:25
  scheduling
• 17:26
  conflicts
• 17:26
  and
• 17:26
  Rooney
• 17:27
  Mara
• 17:27
  signed
• 17:28
  on
• 17:28
  to
• 17:28
  replace
• 17:28
  her.
• 17:29
  And
• 17:29
  Jonze's
• 17:30
  longtime
• 17:30
  friend
• 17:31
  Samantha
• 17:31
  Morton
• 17:32
  signed
• 17:32
  on
• 17:33
  to
• 17:33
  be
• 17:33
  the
• 17:33
  voice
• 17:33
  of
• 17:33
  Samantha.
• 17:34
  And
• 17:35
  unlike
• 17:35
  many
• 17:35
  voiceover
• 17:36
  roles,
• 17:36
  Morton
• 17:37
  was
• 17:37
  instrumental
• 17:38
  in
• 17:38
  creating
• 17:39
  the
• 17:39
  character
• 17:39
  of
• 17:39
  Samantha.
• 17:40
  It
• 17:41
  was
• 17:41
  named
• 17:41
  after
• 17:41
  her
• 17:42
  and
• 17:42
  she
• 17:42
  was
• 17:42
  going
• 17:42
  to
• 17:43
  be
• 17:43
  on
• 17:43
  set
• 17:44
  interacting
• 17:45
  with
• 17:45
  Phoenix
• 17:45
  in
• 17:45
  real
• 17:46
  time
• 17:46
  in
• 17:46
  a
• 17:47
  4x4
• 17:47
  carpeted
• 17:48
  soundproof
• 17:49
  booth
• 17:49
  made
• 17:50
  of
• 17:50
  black
• 17:50
  painted
• 17:51
  plywood
• 17:51
  and
• 17:52
  soft
• 17:52
  noise
• 17:52
  muffling
• 17:53
  fabric.
• 17:54
  But
• 17:54
  she
• 17:54
  would
• 17:54
  avoid
• 17:55
  seeing
• 17:55
  Joaquin
• 17:55
  Phoenix
• 17:56
  on
• 17:56
  set
• 17:57
  during
• 17:57
  filming.
• 17:58
  Crew
• 17:59
  wise
• 17:59
  Jonze
• 18:00
  brought
• 18:00
  in
• 18:00
  people
• 18:00
  he'd
• 18:01
  worked
• 18:01
  with
• 18:01
  on
• 18:01
  his
• 18:02
  previous
• 18:02
  films,
• 18:03
  including
• 18:03
  editors
• 18:04
  Eric
• 18:04
  Zombrunnen
• 18:05
  and
• 18:05
  Jeff
• 18:05
  Buchanan,
• 18:06
  production
• 18:07
  designer
• 18:07
  KK
• 18:08
  Barrett,
• 18:08
  first
• 18:09
  assistant
• 18:09
  director
• 18:10
  Thomas
• 18:10
  Patrick
• 18:11
  Smith,
• 18:11
  and
• 18:11
  costume
• 18:12
  designer
• 18:12
  Casey
• 18:13
  Storm.
• 18:14
  His
• 18:14
  regular
• 18:14
  director
• 18:15
  of
• 18:15
  photography
• 18:16
  Lance
• 18:16
  Accord
• 18:17
  wasn't
• 18:17
  available,
• 18:18
  so
• 18:18
  Hoyte
• 18:19
  Van
• 18:19
  Hoytema
• 18:20
  was
• 18:20
  hired
• 18:20
  instead.
• 18:21
  And
• 18:22
  predicting
• 18:22
  the
• 18:22
  future
• 18:23
  is
• 18:23
  hard.
• 18:24
  Not
• 18:24
  every
• 18:24
  movie
• 18:25
  gets
• 18:25
  it
• 18:25
  as
• 18:25
  right
• 18:26
  as
• 18:26
  Minority
• 18:26
  Report,
• 18:27
  and
• 18:27
  Jones
• 18:28
  didn't
• 18:28
  want
• 18:28
  a
• 18:28
  similarly
• 18:29
  dystopian
• 18:30
  future
• 18:30
  for
• 18:30
  his
• 18:31
  movie.
• 18:32
  Van
• 18:32
  Hoytema
• 18:33
  consciously
• 18:33
  avoided
• 18:34
  the
• 18:34
  colour
• 18:34
  blue,
• 18:34
  for
• 18:35
  example,
• 18:36
  and
• 18:36
  Spike
• 18:36
  Jonze
• 18:37
  wanted
• 18:37
  clean
• 18:37
  and
• 18:38
  colorful
• 18:39
  with
• 18:39
  cyclical
• 18:40
  1920s
• 18:41
  style
• 18:41
  fashions
• 18:42
  which
• 18:42
  were
• 18:42
  based
• 18:42
  on
• 18:43
  designs
• 18:43
  found
• 18:44
  at
• 18:44
  a
• 18:44
  local
• 18:44
  Salvation
• 18:45
  army.
• 18:46
  Modelled
• 18:46
  for
• 18:46
  costume
• 18:47
  designer
• 18:47
  Casey
• 18:48
  Storm
• 18:48
  by
• 18:48
  JonzeAngeleshimself.Stormdesignedandbuiltthe
• 18:51
  costumes
• 18:52
  with
• 18:52
  high
• 18:52
  waisted
• 18:53
  trousers
• 18:54
  and
• 18:54
  a
• 18:54
  distinct
• 18:55
  lack
• 18:55
  of
• 18:55
  collars
• 18:56
  with
• 18:56
  a
• 18:56
  future
• 18:57
  that's
• 18:57
  more
• 18:57
  eco
• 18:58
  conscious
• 18:58
  and
• 18:58
  chooses
• 18:59
  natural
• 18:59
  fabrics
• 19:00
  like
• 19:00
  wool
• 19:01
  and
• 19:01
  cotton.
• 19:02
  There
• 19:02
  are
• 19:02
  no
• 19:02
  belts
• 19:03
  or
• 19:03
  buckles,
• 19:04
  no
• 19:04
  denim
• 19:05
  ties
• 19:05
  or
• 19:06
  or
• 19:06
  baseball
• 19:06
  caps
• 19:07
  on
• 19:07
  purpose.
• 19:09
  Small
• 19:09
  details
• 19:10
  like
• 19:10
  the
• 19:10
  safety
• 19:10
  pin
• 19:10
  Theodore
• 19:11
  uses
• 19:11
  to
• 19:12
  pin
• 19:12
  his
• 19:12
  phone
• 19:12
  to
• 19:13
  his
• 19:13
  pocket
• 19:13
  so
• 19:14
  Samantha
• 19:14
  can
• 19:14
  see
• 19:15
  out
• 19:15
  of
• 19:15
  the
• 19:15
  camera.
• 19:16
  The
• 19:16
  designs
• 19:16
  of
• 19:17
  the
• 19:17
  phones
• 19:17
  were
• 19:17
  actually
• 19:17
  much
• 19:18
  smaller
• 19:18
  than
• 19:18
  Storm
• 19:19
  originally
• 19:19
  thought
• 19:20
  they
• 19:20
  would
• 19:20
  be,
• 19:21
  hence
• 19:21
  the
• 19:21
  safety
• 19:22
  pin.
• 19:23
  It's
• 19:23
  simultaneously
• 19:24
  modern
• 19:24
  and
• 19:25
  retro
• 19:25
  and
• 19:25
  that
• 19:26
  extends
• 19:26
  to
• 19:26
  the
• 19:26
  production
• 19:27
  design
• 19:27
  too.
• 19:28
  They
• 19:28
  wanted
• 19:29
  Theodore's
• 19:29
  apartment
• 19:30
  to
• 19:30
  have
• 19:30
  big
• 19:30
  windows
• 19:31
  because
• 19:31
  he
• 19:32
  lived
• 19:32
  alone.
• 19:32
  And
• 19:32
  they
• 19:33
  wanted
• 19:33
  a
• 19:33
  juxtaposition
• 19:34
  between
• 19:34
  the
• 19:35
  lonely
• 19:35
  Theodore
• 19:36
  and
• 19:36
  the
• 19:36
  big
• 19:36
  city.
• 19:37
  His
• 19:38
  apartment
• 19:38
  was
• 19:38
  real,
• 19:39
  located
• 19:39
  on
• 19:39
  West
• 19:40
  9th
• 19:40
  street
• 19:40
  in
• 19:41
  LA
• 19:41
  with
• 19:41
  huge
• 19:42
  windows
• 19:42
  where
• 19:43
  you
• 19:43
  could
• 19:43
  see
• 19:43
  downtown.
• 19:44
  Los
• 19:44
  angeles.
• 19:45
  Production
• 19:45
  designer
• 19:46
  K.K.
• 19:46
  Barrett
• 19:47
  added
• 19:47
  walls,
• 19:48
  natural
• 19:48
  wood
• 19:49
  and
• 19:49
  discreet
• 19:49
  lighting.
• 19:50
  The
• 19:50
  Los
• 19:51
  Angeles
• 19:51
  skyline
• 19:52
  from
• 19:52
  the
• 19:52
  grassy
• 19:52
  roof
• 19:53
  terrace
• 19:53
  though,
• 19:53
  was
• 19:54
  actually
• 19:54
  filmed
• 19:54
  in
• 19:55
  Shanghai.
• 19:56
  Cars
• 19:57
  are
• 19:57
  avoided
• 19:57
  being
• 19:58
  shown
• 19:58
  because
• 19:58
  they
• 19:59
  didn't
• 19:59
  want
• 19:59
  to
• 19:59
  date
• 19:59
  the
• 19:59
  movie
• 20:00
  with
• 20:00
  specific
• 20:01
  models.
• 20:01
  It's
• 20:02
  why
• 20:02
  not
• 20:02
  much
• 20:03
  shot
• 20:03
  at
• 20:03
  street
• 20:04
  level
• 20:05
  in
• 20:05
  Shanghai.
• 20:06
  They
• 20:06
  filmed
• 20:06
  on
• 20:06
  elevated
• 20:07
  walkways.
• 20:08
  Principal
• 20:09
  photography
• 20:09
  on
• 20:10
  her
• 20:10
  took
• 20:10
  place
• 20:10
  in
• 20:11
  mid-2012.
• 20:12
  It
• 20:12
  was
• 20:12
  primarily
• 20:13
  filmed
• 20:13
  in
• 20:13
  Los
• 20:14
  Angeles,
• 20:14
  including
• 20:15
  at
• 20:15
  the
• 20:15
  Warner
• 20:15
  Brothers
• 20:16
  backlot,
• 20:16
  along
• 20:17
  with
• 20:17
  the
• 20:17
  Bradbury
• 20:18
  Building
• 20:18
  serving
• 20:18
  as
• 20:19
  Theodore's
• 20:19
  apartment
• 20:20
  building.
• 20:21
  The
• 20:21
  skyline
• 20:21
  and
• 20:22
  some
• 20:22
  of
• 20:22
  the
• 20:22
  cityscape
• 20:23
  were
• 20:23
  filmed
• 20:23
  in
• 20:23
  Shanghai
• 20:24
  for
• 20:24
  an
• 20:25
  additional
• 20:25
  two
• 20:25
  weeks.
• 20:27
  The
• 20:27
  technology
• 20:27
  of
• 20:27
  this
• 20:28
  future
• 20:28
  is
• 20:28
  remarkably
• 20:29
  low
• 20:29
  tech.
• 20:30
  Theodore
• 20:31
  works
• 20:31
  at
• 20:31
  a
• 20:31
  bespoke
• 20:32
  letter
• 20:32
  writing
• 20:32
  service
• 20:33
  and
• 20:33
  works
• 20:34
  from
• 20:34
  a
• 20:34
  desktop
• 20:35
  computer,
• 20:35
  but
• 20:35
  otherwise
• 20:36
  isn't
• 20:36
  ever
• 20:37
  really
• 20:37
  at
• 20:37
  a
• 20:37
  screen.
• 20:38
  There
• 20:38
  are
• 20:39
  no
• 20:39
  keyboards,
• 20:40
  everything
• 20:40
  is
• 20:40
  voice
• 20:41
  activated.
• 20:42
  Everyone
• 20:42
  wears
• 20:43
  earpieces
• 20:43
  and
• 20:43
  talks
• 20:44
  to
• 20:44
  their
• 20:44
  operating
• 20:45
  systems.
• 20:46
  Technology
• 20:46
  is
• 20:47
  more
• 20:47
  of
• 20:47
  their
• 20:47
  lives
• 20:47
  than
• 20:48
  ever,
• 20:48
  but
• 20:48
  it's
• 20:49
  also
• 20:49
  become
• 20:49
  invisible,
• 20:50
  just
• 20:50
  a
• 20:51
  part
• 20:51
  of
• 20:51
  everyday
• 20:51
  life.
• 20:52
  Even
• 20:53
  the
• 20:53
  OS
• 20:53
  that
• 20:54
  forms
• 20:54
  Samantha
• 20:55
  is
• 20:55
  low
• 20:55
  key.
• 20:56
  Just
• 20:56
  a
• 20:56
  pretty
• 20:56
  blank
• 20:57
  screen
• 20:57
  with
• 20:57
  a
• 20:57
  small
• 20:58
  icon
• 20:58
  which
• 20:58
  goes
• 20:59
  blank
• 20:59
  and
• 20:59
  then
• 21:00
  Scarlett
• 21:01
  Johansson's
• 21:02
  voice
• 21:02
  comes
• 21:02
  out,
• 21:03
  not
• 21:03
  Samantha
• 21:04
  Morton's.
• 21:05
  It
• 21:06
  was
• 21:06
  during
• 21:06
  the
• 21:06
  editing
• 21:07
  phase
• 21:07
  that
• 21:07
  Jonze
• 21:08
  realised
• 21:09
  something
• 21:09
  wasn't
• 21:10
  quite
• 21:10
  working
• 21:10
  with
• 21:11
  Samantha
• 21:11
  Morton,
• 21:12
  and
• 21:12
  he
• 21:12
  realised
• 21:13
  the
• 21:14
  character
• 21:14
  of
• 21:14
  Samantha
• 21:15
  needed
• 21:15
  something
• 21:15
  different.
• 21:17
  Samantha
• 21:17
  Morton
• 21:18
  basically
• 21:18
  filmed
• 21:19
  an
• 21:19
  entire
• 21:19
  movie
• 21:20
  with
• 21:20
  Spike
• 21:20
  Jonze,
• 21:21
  only
• 21:22
  to
• 21:22
  receive
• 21:22
  a
• 21:22
  call
• 21:22
  months
• 21:23
  later
• 21:24
  telling
• 21:24
  her
• 21:24
  that
• 21:24
  she
• 21:25
  would
• 21:25
  be
• 21:25
  replaced
• 21:26
  as
• 21:26
  the
• 21:26
  female
• 21:26
  lead,
• 21:27
  but
• 21:27
  that
• 21:27
  he
• 21:28
  needed
• 21:28
  her
• 21:28
  blessing
• 21:29
  to
• 21:29
  do
• 21:29
  so.
• 21:30
  Jones
• 21:31
  wanted
• 21:31
  a
• 21:31
  voice
• 21:31
  with
• 21:32
  depth
• 21:32
  and
• 21:32
  vulnerability
• 21:33
  and
• 21:33
  innocence,
• 21:34
  which
• 21:34
  even
• 21:35
  he
• 21:35
  noted
• 21:36
  was
• 21:36
  an
• 21:36
  almost
• 21:36
  impossible
• 21:37
  combination.
• 21:38
  He
• 21:39
  met
• 21:39
  with
• 21:39
  many
• 21:39
  actresses
• 21:40
  before
• 21:40
  deciding
• 21:41
  on
• 21:41
  Scarlett
• 21:41
  Johansson,
• 21:42
  who
• 21:42
  met
• 21:43
  with
• 21:43
  him
• 21:43
  in
• 21:43
  New
• 21:44
  York
• 21:44
  on
• 21:44
  her
• 21:44
  day
• 21:44
  off
• 21:45
  from
• 21:45
  performing
• 21:46
  Cat
• 21:46
  on
• 21:46
  a
• 21:46
  Hot
• 21:47
  Tin
• 21:47
  Roof
• 21:47
  on
• 21:47
  Broadway.
• 21:49
  They
• 21:49
  had
• 21:49
  a
• 21:49
  nine
• 21:49
  hour
• 21:50
  meeting
• 21:50
  that
• 21:50
  was
• 21:50
  supposed
• 21:50
  to
• 21:51
  be
• 21:51
  a
• 21:51
  one
• 21:51
  hour
• 21:51
  meeting
• 21:52
  and
• 21:52
  that
• 21:53
  meeting
• 21:53
  clinched
• 21:53
  the
• 21:54
  deal.
• 21:55
  Morton
• 21:55
  was
• 21:55
  replaced
• 21:56
  with
• 21:56
  Scarlett
• 21:56
  Johansson
• 21:57
  and
• 21:58
  after
• 21:58
  how
• 21:58
  the
• 21:58
  Warner
• 21:59
  Bros.
• 21:59
  Press
• 21:59
  release
• 22:00
  casually
• 22:00
  stated
• 22:01
  Johansson's
• 22:02
  name
• 22:02
  instead
• 22:03
  of
• 22:03
  Morton's.
• 22:04
  Jonze
• 22:04
  would
• 22:05
  say
• 22:05
  in
• 22:05
  an
• 22:05
  email
• 22:05
  at
• 22:06
  the
• 22:06
  time
• 22:06
  to
• 22:06
  Vulture,
• 22:08
  I
• 22:08
  think
• 22:08
  unfortunately
• 22:09
  it's
• 22:09
  pretty
• 22:10
  normal
• 22:10
  in
• 22:10
  terms
• 22:11
  of
• 22:11
  my
• 22:11
  not
• 22:12
  quite
• 22:12
  painless
• 22:12
  for
• 22:13
  everyone
• 22:13
  involved
• 22:13
  process
• 22:14
  of
• 22:14
  discovering
• 22:15
  what
• 22:15
  the
• 22:15
  movie
• 22:16
  is.
• 22:16
  Samantha
• 22:17
  was
• 22:17
  with
• 22:17
  us
• 22:18
  on
• 22:18
  set
• 22:18
  and
• 22:18
  was
• 22:18
  amazing.
• 22:19
  It
• 22:19
  was
• 22:20
  only
• 22:20
  in
• 22:20
  post
• 22:20
  production
• 22:21
  when
• 22:21
  we
• 22:21
  started
• 22:22
  editing
• 22:22
  that
• 22:23
  we
• 22:23
  realized
• 22:23
  that
• 22:23
  what
• 22:23
  the
• 22:24
  character
• 22:24
  movie
• 22:25
  needed
• 22:26
  was
• 22:26
  different
• 22:26
  from
• 22:26
  what
• 22:27
  Samantha
• 22:27
  and
• 22:27
  I
• 22:28
  had
• 22:28
  created
• 22:28
  together.
• 22:29
  So
• 22:29
  we
• 22:30
  recast
• 22:31
  and
• 22:31
  since
• 22:31
  then
• 22:31
  Scarlett
• 22:32
  has
• 22:32
  taken
• 22:32
  over
• 22:33
  that
• 22:33
  role.
• 22:34
  I
• 22:34
  love
• 22:34
  Samantha.
• 22:35
  I've
• 22:35
  been
• 22:35
  friends
• 22:35
  with
• 22:35
  her
• 22:36
  forever
• 22:36
  and
• 22:36
  I
• 22:37
  hope
• 22:37
  we
• 22:37
  make
• 22:37
  lots
• 22:38
  of
• 22:38
  things
• 22:38
  together
• 22:38
  in
• 22:39
  the
• 22:39
  future.
• 22:40
  Of
• 22:40
  course,
• 22:40
  Samantha
• 22:41
  Morton
• 22:41
  happily
• 22:42
  gave
• 22:42
  her
• 22:43
  blessing
• 22:43
  for
• 22:44
  this
• 22:44
  to
• 22:44
  happen
• 22:44
  and
• 22:45
  is
• 22:45
  instead
• 22:45
  credited
• 22:46
  as
• 22:46
  associate
• 22:47
  producer.
• 22:48
  Morton
• 22:49
  would
• 22:49
  say
• 22:49
  in
• 22:49
  an
• 22:49
  interview
• 22:50
  with
• 22:50
  Vanity
• 22:50
  Fair
• 22:51
  that
• 22:51
  she
• 22:51
  wasn't
• 22:51
  bruised
• 22:52
  by
• 22:52
  the
• 22:52
  replacement
• 22:53
  because
• 22:53
  her
• 22:53
  DNA
• 22:54
  was
• 22:54
  still
• 22:54
  all
• 22:55
  there,
• 22:55
  but
• 22:56
  she
• 22:56
  was
• 22:56
  a
• 22:56
  little
• 22:56
  upset
• 22:57
  about
• 22:57
  not
• 22:58
  being
• 22:58
  invited
• 22:58
  to
• 22:58
  the
• 22:59
  premiere.
• 23:00
  Scarlett
• 23:00
  Johansson
• 23:01
  ended
• 23:01
  up
• 23:01
  working
• 23:01
  every
• 23:02
  weekend
• 23:02
  for
• 23:03
  four
• 23:03
  months
• 23:04
  with
• 23:04
  Jones
• 23:04
  constantly
• 23:05
  tweaking
• 23:05
  and
• 23:06
  rewriting
• 23:06
  her
• 23:07
  lines,
• 23:07
  and
• 23:07
  additional
• 23:08
  scenes
• 23:08
  were
• 23:09
  filmed
• 23:09
  in
• 23:09
  August
• 23:09
  2013
• 23:10
  following
• 23:11
  the
• 23:11
  changes,
• 23:12
  Jones
• 23:13
  also
• 23:13
  put
• 23:13
  his
• 23:14
  own
• 23:14
  acting
• 23:14
  chops
• 23:15
  to
• 23:15
  good
• 23:15
  use,
• 23:15
  starring
• 23:16
  as
• 23:16
  the
• 23:16
  video
• 23:17
  game
• 23:17
  character
• 23:17
  Alien
• 23:18
  Child,
• 23:18
  as
• 23:19
  Theodore
• 23:19
  physically
• 23:20
  controls
• 23:20
  the
• 23:21
  character
• 23:21
  in
• 23:21
  the
• 23:21
  holographic
• 23:22
  world,
• 23:22
  a
• 23:23
  bit
• 23:23
  like
• 23:23
  using
• 23:24
  a
• 23:24
  Kinect.
• 23:25
  The
• 23:25
  game
• 23:25
  itself
• 23:26
  is
• 23:26
  not
• 23:26
  real,
• 23:26
  but
• 23:27
  was
• 23:27
  an
• 23:27
  animated
• 23:28
  film
• 23:28
  created
• 23:28
  by
• 23:29
  Irish
• 23:29
  artist
• 23:29
  David
• 23:30
  O'Reilly
• 23:31
  after
• 23:31
  Jonze
• 23:31
  had
• 23:31
  seen
• 23:32
  his
• 23:32
  award
• 23:32
  winning
• 23:33
  3D
• 23:33
  animated
• 23:34
  shorts.
• 23:35
  O'Reilly
• 23:35
  would
• 23:36
  go
• 23:36
  on
• 23:36
  to
• 23:36
  develop
• 23:36
  the
• 23:36
  video
• 23:37
  Games
• 23:37
  Mountain
• 23:38
  in
• 23:38
  2014
• 23:39
  and
• 23:39
  everything
• 23:40
  in
• 23:40
  2017,
• 23:41
  which
• 23:42
  also
• 23:42
  has
• 23:42
  links
• 23:43
  to
• 23:43
  Everything
• 23:43
  Everywhere
• 23:44
  all
• 23:44
  at
• 23:45
  once.
• 23:45
  But
• 23:46
  that's
• 23:46
  for
• 23:46
  a
• 23:46
  future
• 23:46
  episode
• 23:47
  on
• 23:47
  that
• 23:48
  movie.
• 23:49
  Steven
• 23:50
  Soderbergh
• 23:51
  became
• 23:51
  involved
• 23:51
  in
• 23:52
  her
• 23:52
  when
• 23:52
  Jones's
• 23:53
  original
• 23:53
  cut
• 23:54
  ran
• 23:54
  over
• 23:54
  150
• 23:55
  minutes
• 23:56
  and
• 23:56
  Soderbergh
• 23:57
  cut
• 23:57
  it
• 23:57
  down
• 23:58
  to
• 23:58
  90
• 23:58
  minutes
• 23:59
  in
• 24:00
  the
• 24:00
  Soderbergh
• 24:01
  cut,
• 24:01
  which
• 24:01
  technically
• 24:02
  is
• 24:02
  a
• 24:02
  thing.
• 24:03
  While
• 24:04
  it
• 24:04
  didn't
• 24:04
  lead
• 24:04
  to
• 24:05
  the
• 24:05
  final
• 24:05
  version
• 24:05
  of
• 24:06
  the
• 24:06
  film,
• 24:06
  it
• 24:07
  actually
• 24:07
  helped
• 24:07
  Jones
• 24:08
  remove
• 24:08
  unnecessary
• 24:09
  subplots
• 24:10
  and
• 24:10
  streamlined
• 24:11
  the
• 24:11
  movie
• 24:11
  from
• 24:12
  150
• 24:12
  minutes
• 24:13
  down
• 24:13
  to
• 24:13
  the
• 24:14
  released
• 24:14
  version
• 24:15
  at
• 24:15
  126
• 24:16
  minutes.
• 24:17
  But
• 24:18
  while
• 24:18
  Minority
• 24:18
  Report
• 24:19
  was
• 24:19
  prescient
• 24:20
  and
• 24:20
  predicted
• 24:20
  much
• 24:21
  of
• 24:21
  our
• 24:21
  current
• 24:21
  reality,
• 24:22
  her
• 24:23
  reads
• 24:23
  like
• 24:24
  a
• 24:24
  documentary
• 24:25
  in
• 24:25
  2026
• 24:26
  due
• 24:27
  to
• 24:27
  the
• 24:27
  advancement
• 24:28
  over
• 24:28
  the
• 24:28
  last
• 24:28
  13
• 24:29
  years
• 24:29
  in
• 24:30
  generative
• 24:30
  AI
• 24:31
  and
• 24:31
  various
• 24:32
  AI
• 24:32
  systems
• 24:33
  like
• 24:34
  OpenAI's
• 24:34
  ChatGPT,
• 24:36
  Microsoft's
• 24:36
  Copilot,
• 24:37
  and
• 24:38
  Anthropic's
• 24:38
  Claude,
• 24:39
  among
• 24:39
  many
• 24:40
  others
• 24:40
  that
• 24:40
  can
• 24:40
  answer
• 24:41
  questions,
• 24:41
  help
• 24:42
  with
• 24:42
  tasks,
• 24:43
  hold
• 24:43
  conversations,
• 24:44
  and
• 24:44
  in
• 24:45
  some
• 24:45
  products
• 24:46
  form
• 24:46
  lasting
• 24:47
  relationships.
• 24:49
  When
• 24:49
  OpenAI
• 24:50
  announced
• 24:51
  GPT4O,
• 24:52
  short
• 24:53
  for
• 24:53
  Omni
• 24:54
  in
• 24:54
  May
• 24:55
  2024,
• 24:56
  the
• 24:56
  new
• 24:56
  model
• 24:56
  could
• 24:57
  hold
• 24:57
  natural
• 24:58
  conversations,
• 24:59
  interpret
• 24:59
  facial
• 25:00
  expressions,
• 25:00
  detect
• 25:01
  emotion,
• 25:01
  and
• 25:02
  even
• 25:02
  sing
• 25:02
  on
• 25:03
  command
• 25:04
  during
• 25:04
  the
• 25:04
  live
• 25:05
  demo.
• 25:05
  It
• 25:06
  struck
• 25:06
  a
• 25:06
  flirtatious
• 25:07
  tone
• 25:07
  with
• 25:08
  OpenAI
• 25:08
  employees,
• 25:09
  leading
• 25:10
  some
• 25:10
  to
• 25:10
  wonder
• 25:11
  whether
• 25:11
  the
• 25:11
  coquettish
• 25:12
  demeanor
• 25:13
  was
• 25:13
  an
• 25:13
  intentional
• 25:13
  ploy
• 25:14
  to
• 25:14
  keep
• 25:14
  people
• 25:15
  engaged.
• 25:16
  One
• 25:16
  of
• 25:17
  the
• 25:17
  voices
• 25:17
  out
• 25:18
  of
• 25:18
  the
• 25:18
  five
• 25:18
  available
• 25:19
  was
• 25:19
  called
• 25:20
  sky,
• 25:21
  and
• 25:21
  that's
• 25:21
  where
• 25:21
  things
• 25:22
  got
• 25:22
  a
• 25:22
  little
• 25:22
  bit
• 25:22
  complicated,
• 25:23
  because
• 25:24
  the
• 25:24
  AI
• 25:24
  voice
• 25:25
  it
• 25:25
  used
• 25:25
  in
• 25:25
  its
• 25:26
  demo
• 25:27
  was
• 25:27
  very
• 25:27
  quickly
• 25:27
  compared
• 25:28
  to
• 25:28
  Scarlett
• 25:29
  Johansson's
• 25:30
  voice
• 25:30
  in
• 25:31
  her.
• 25:31
  And
• 25:32
  there
• 25:32
  is
• 25:32
  a
• 25:32
  precedent
• 25:33
  for
• 25:33
  this
• 25:33
  because
• 25:33
  in
• 25:33
  September
• 25:34
  2023,
• 25:35
  Scarlett
• 25:36
  Johansson
• 25:36
  received
• 25:37
  an
• 25:37
  offer
• 25:37
  from
• 25:37
  OpenAI
• 25:38
  CEO
• 25:39
  Sam
• 25:39
  Altman,
• 25:40
  who
• 25:40
  wanted
• 25:40
  to
• 25:41
  hire
• 25:41
  her
• 25:41
  to
• 25:41
  voice
• 25:42
  the
• 25:42
  ChatGPT
• 25:43
  system.
• 25:44
  He
• 25:45
  told
• 25:45
  her
• 25:45
  that
• 25:45
  by
• 25:45
  voicing
• 25:46
  the
• 25:46
  system,
• 25:46
  she
• 25:47
  could
• 25:47
  bridge
• 25:47
  the
• 25:47
  gap
• 25:48
  between
• 25:48
  tech
• 25:49
  companies
• 25:49
  and
• 25:49
  creatives
• 25:50
  and
• 25:50
  help
• 25:51
  consumers
• 25:51
  feel
• 25:51
  comfortable
• 25:52
  with
• 25:52
  the
• 25:52
  seismic
• 25:53
  shift
• 25:54
  concerning
• 25:54
  humans
• 25:54
  and
• 25:55
  AI.
• 25:56
  After
• 25:56
  much
• 25:56
  consideration,
• 25:57
  Scarlett
• 25:58
  Johansson
• 25:59
  declined.
• 26:00
  Two
• 26:00
  days
• 26:01
  before
• 26:01
  the
• 26:01
  GPT4O
• 26:03
  demo
• 26:03
  was
• 26:03
  released,
• 26:04
  Altman
• 26:05
  contacted
• 26:05
  her
• 26:06
  agent,
• 26:06
  asking
• 26:07
  her
• 26:07
  to
• 26:07
  reconsider.
• 26:08
  Before
• 26:09
  they
• 26:09
  could
• 26:09
  connect,
• 26:10
  the
• 26:10
  system
• 26:10
  launched,
• 26:12
  complete
• 26:12
  with
• 26:12
  a
• 26:12
  voice
• 26:13
  that
• 26:14
  sounded
• 26:14
  remarkably
• 26:15
  like
• 26:16
  Scarlett
• 26:16
  Johansson's.
• 26:18
  Sam
• 26:18
  Altman
• 26:19
  even
• 26:19
  poured
• 26:19
  fuel
• 26:20
  on
• 26:20
  the
• 26:20
  fire
• 26:20
  the
• 26:21
  day
• 26:21
  of
• 26:21
  release
• 26:22
  by
• 26:22
  posting
• 26:22
  a
• 26:23
  single
• 26:23
  word
• 26:23
  on
• 26:25
  her.
• 26:26
  He'd
• 26:27
  previously
• 26:27
  said
• 26:27
  that
• 26:28
  her
• 26:28
  was
• 26:28
  his
• 26:28
  favourite
• 26:29
  film
• 26:29
  about
• 26:29
  AI,
• 26:30
  calling
• 26:31
  it
• 26:31
  prophetic
• 26:31
  about
• 26:32
  how
• 26:32
  conversational
• 26:33
  AI
• 26:33
  would
• 26:34
  develop.
• 26:35
  So
• 26:36
  obviously
• 26:36
  Scarlett
• 26:37
  Johansson
• 26:38
  was
• 26:38
  not
• 26:38
  very
• 26:38
  happy.
• 26:39
  She
• 26:39
  described
• 26:40
  herself
• 26:40
  as
• 26:40
  shocked,
• 26:41
  angered
• 26:41
  and
• 26:42
  in
• 26:42
  disbelief
• 26:43
  that
• 26:43
  the
• 26:43
  company
• 26:43
  would
• 26:44
  use
• 26:44
  a
• 26:44
  synthetic
• 26:45
  voice
• 26:45
  so
• 26:45
  eerily
• 26:46
  similar
• 26:46
  to
• 26:47
  her
• 26:47
  own,
• 26:48
  particularly
• 26:48
  given
• 26:49
  that
• 26:49
  she
• 26:49
  had
• 26:49
  already
• 26:50
  declined
• 26:51
  the
• 26:51
  use
• 26:51
  of
• 26:51
  her
• 26:51
  voice.
• 26:52
  She
• 26:53
  hired
• 26:53
  legal
• 26:53
  Counsel
• 26:54
  and
• 26:54
  sent
• 26:55
  OpenAI
• 26:55
  two
• 26:56
  letters
• 26:57
  demanding
• 26:57
  transparency
• 26:58
  about
• 26:58
  how
• 26:59
  sky
• 26:59
  was
• 26:59
  developed.
• 27:00
  OpenAI
• 27:01
  removed
• 27:02
  the
• 27:02
  voice
• 27:02
  less
• 27:03
  than
• 27:03
  a
• 27:03
  week
• 27:03
  after
• 27:04
  announcing
• 27:04
  ChatGPT4O.
• 27:07
  OpenAI
• 27:07
  maintained
• 27:08
  throughout
• 27:09
  that
• 27:09
  the
• 27:09
  voice
• 27:09
  actor
• 27:09
  behind
• 27:10
  sky
• 27:10
  had
• 27:11
  been
• 27:11
  cast
• 27:11
  before
• 27:12
  any
• 27:12
  outreach
• 27:13
  to
• 27:13
  Johansson,
• 27:14
  and
• 27:14
  that
• 27:14
  Sky's
• 27:15
  voice
• 27:15
  was
• 27:15
  never
• 27:15
  intended
• 27:16
  to
• 27:16
  resemble
• 27:17
  hers.
• 27:17
  But
• 27:18
  an
• 27:18
  independent
• 27:19
  forensic
• 27:19
  voice
• 27:19
  analysis
• 27:20
  commissioned
• 27:21
  by
• 27:21
  NPR
• 27:22
  found
• 27:22
  that
• 27:22
  sky
• 27:23
  and
• 27:23
  Johansson
• 27:24
  had
• 27:24
  nearly
• 27:25
  identical
• 27:25
  vocal
• 27:26
  tract
• 27:26
  lengths
• 27:26
  and
• 27:27
  that
• 27:27
  Skye
• 27:27
  was
• 27:28
  statistically
• 27:28
  more
• 27:29
  similar
• 27:29
  to
• 27:29
  Johansson
• 27:30
  than
• 27:30
  hundreds
• 27:31
  of
• 27:31
  other
• 27:31
  actors
• 27:32
  analyzed,
• 27:33
  though
• 27:33
  the
• 27:33
  researchers
• 27:34
  also
• 27:34
  noted
• 27:35
  differences
• 27:35
  in
• 27:36
  pitch
• 27:36
  and
• 27:36
  expressiveness.
• 27:38
  Despite
• 27:39
  all
• 27:39
  this
• 27:39
  controversy,
• 27:40
  thousands
• 27:41
  of
• 27:41
  people
• 27:41
  started
• 27:42
  connecting
• 27:42
  with
• 27:42
  GPT4O
• 27:44
  and
• 27:44
  started
• 27:45
  to
• 27:45
  develop
• 27:45
  friendships
• 27:46
  and
• 27:46
  relationships
• 27:47
  with
• 27:47
  the
• 27:47
  AI.
• 27:48
  Humans
• 27:49
  started
• 27:50
  to
• 27:50
  become
• 27:50
  attached
• 27:51
  to
• 27:51
  their
• 27:51
  AI
• 27:51
  companions.
• 27:53
  Reddit
• 27:53
  communities
• 27:54
  like
• 27:54
  My
• 27:54
  Boyfriend
• 27:55
  Is
• 27:55
  Ai
• 27:56
  had
• 27:56
  over
• 27:56
  37,000
• 27:57
  members,
• 27:58
  and
• 27:58
  people
• 27:59
  were
• 27:59
  describing
• 27:59
  AI
• 28:00
  companions
• 28:01
  as
• 28:01
  confidants,
• 28:02
  romantic
• 28:03
  partners
• 28:03
  and
• 28:04
  soul
• 28:04
  mates.
• 28:05
  But
• 28:06
  the
• 28:06
  path
• 28:07
  to
• 28:07
  true
• 28:07
  love
• 28:07
  never
• 28:08
  runs
• 28:08
  smoothly,
• 28:09
  and
• 28:09
  when
• 28:09
  GPT5
• 28:10
  launched
• 28:11
  on
• 28:11
  7
• 28:11
  August
• 28:12
  2025,
• 28:13
  OpenAI
• 28:14
  simultaneously
• 28:15
  retired
• 28:16
  all
• 28:16
  of
• 28:16
  their
• 28:17
  other
• 28:17
  legacy
• 28:17
  models,
• 28:18
  including
• 28:18
  GPT4O,
• 28:20
  with
• 28:20
  no
• 28:21
  warning
• 28:21
  and
• 28:21
  no
• 28:22
  depreciation,
• 28:22
  period.
• 28:24
  Users
• 28:24
  who
• 28:24
  opened
• 28:25
  previous
• 28:25
  conversations
• 28:26
  found
• 28:27
  that
• 28:27
  they
• 28:27
  had
• 28:27
  been
• 28:27
  automatically
• 28:28
  switched
• 28:29
  to
• 28:29
  GPT5,
• 28:30
  and
• 28:31
  they
• 28:31
  found
• 28:31
  their
• 28:31
  previously
• 28:32
  amiable
• 28:33
  companions
• 28:33
  personalities
• 28:34
  and
• 28:35
  had
• 28:35
  changed
• 28:35
  dramatically
• 28:36
  and
• 28:36
  not,
• 28:37
  in
• 28:37
  their
• 28:37
  opinion,
• 28:38
  for
• 28:38
  the
• 28:38
  better.
• 28:39
  Just
• 28:39
  like
• 28:40
  in
• 28:40
  the
• 28:40
  movie
• 28:40
  where
• 28:40
  Theodore
• 28:41
  can't
• 28:41
  find
• 28:41
  Samantha
• 28:42
  and
• 28:42
  panics,
• 28:43
  the
• 28:43
  anxieties
• 28:44
  of
• 28:44
  that
• 28:44
  film
• 28:45
  played
• 28:45
  out
• 28:45
  in
• 28:45
  real
• 28:46
  life.
• 28:47
  People
• 28:47
  had
• 28:47
  fallen
• 28:48
  in
• 28:48
  love
• 28:48
  with
• 28:48
  their
• 28:48
  AI
• 28:49
  and
• 28:49
  then
• 28:50
  lost
• 28:50
  that
• 28:51
  person,
• 28:52
  all
• 28:52
  with
• 28:52
  one
• 28:52
  simple
• 28:53
  software
• 28:53
  upgrade.
• 28:54
  And
• 28:55
  the
• 28:55
  personality
• 28:56
  shift
• 28:56
  was
• 28:56
  deliberate.
• 28:57
  OpenAI
• 28:58
  intentionally
• 28:59
  reduced
• 28:59
  sycophancy,
• 29:01
  the
• 29:01
  tendency
• 29:01
  to
• 29:02
  be
• 29:02
  overly
• 29:02
  agreeable
• 29:02
  and
• 29:03
  flattering,
• 29:03
  cutting
• 29:04
  such
• 29:04
  responses
• 29:05
  significantly,
• 29:06
  including
• 29:07
  the
• 29:07
  system's
• 29:07
  support
• 29:08
  for
• 29:08
  dangerous
• 29:08
  ideas.
• 29:10
  The
• 29:10
  company
• 29:10
  wanted
• 29:11
  something
• 29:11
  less
• 29:11
  effusive,
• 29:12
  less
• 29:13
  emoji
• 29:13
  heavy,
• 29:14
  more
• 29:14
  like
• 29:15
  a
• 29:15
  helpful
• 29:15
  friend
• 29:16
  with
• 29:16
  PhD
• 29:17
  level
• 29:17
  intelligence,
• 29:18
  and
• 29:19
  technically,
• 29:19
  GPT5
• 29:21
  was
• 29:21
  vastly
• 29:21
  more
• 29:22
  capable,
• 29:22
  but
• 29:23
  emotionally,
• 29:23
  for
• 29:24
  a
• 29:24
  significant
• 29:24
  portion
• 29:25
  of
• 29:25
  users
• 29:26
  it
• 29:26
  felt
• 29:26
  like
• 29:26
  a
• 29:27
  bereavement.
• 29:28
  One
• 29:29
  expert
• 29:29
  described
• 29:29
  GPT4O's
• 29:31
  launch
• 29:31
  in
• 29:31
  2024
• 29:32
  as
• 29:33
  representing
• 29:33
  the
• 29:34
  peak
• 29:34
  of
• 29:34
  AI
• 29:34
  companionship,
• 29:36
  mirroring
• 29:36
  human
• 29:37
  warmth
• 29:37
  with
• 29:37
  unprecedented
• 29:38
  fluidity,
• 29:39
  while
• 29:40
  GPT5's
• 29:41
  release
• 29:41
  marked
• 29:42
  a
• 29:42
  personality
• 29:43
  recession.
• 29:44
  Sterile,
• 29:45
  robotic
• 29:46
  and
• 29:46
  cold.
• 29:47
  Experts
• 29:48
  warned
• 29:48
  that
• 29:48
  while
• 29:48
  emotionally
• 29:49
  intense
• 29:49
  relationships
• 29:50
  with
• 29:50
  AI
• 29:50
  may
• 29:51
  or
• 29:51
  may
• 29:51
  not
• 29:51
  be
• 29:51
  harmful
• 29:52
  in
• 29:52
  themselves,
• 29:53
  removing
• 29:53
  those
• 29:54
  models
• 29:54
  without
• 29:54
  warning
• 29:55
  or
• 29:55
  almost
• 29:56
  certainly
• 29:56
  would
• 29:57
  be
• 29:57
  harmful
• 29:57
  to
• 29:58
  humans
• 29:59
  now.
• 29:59
  OpenAI
• 30:00
  eventually
• 30:01
  brought
• 30:01
  back
• 30:01
  the
• 30:01
  option
• 30:02
  to
• 30:02
  select
• 30:03
  GPT4O
• 30:04
  to
• 30:04
  users
• 30:05
  and
• 30:05
  said
• 30:06
  it
• 30:06
  would
• 30:06
  watch
• 30:06
  usage
• 30:07
  to
• 30:07
  check
• 30:07
  for
• 30:07
  how
• 30:08
  long
• 30:08
  they
• 30:08
  should
• 30:08
  offer
• 30:09
  legacy
• 30:09
  models.
• 30:10
  They
• 30:10
  worked
• 30:11
  on
• 30:11
  GPT5's
• 30:12
  personality,
• 30:13
  introducing
• 30:14
  personality
• 30:15
  sliders
• 30:15
  allowing
• 30:16
  users
• 30:16
  to
• 30:16
  manually
• 30:17
  adjust
• 30:17
  traits
• 30:18
  like
• 30:18
  warmth
• 30:18
  and
• 30:18
  enthusiasm,
• 30:20
  aiming
• 30:20
  to
• 30:20
  give
• 30:20
  them
• 30:21
  control
• 30:21
  over
• 30:22
  over
• 30:22
  the
• 30:22
  level
• 30:22
  of
• 30:22
  emotional
• 30:23
  intimacy.
• 30:24
  GPT4O,
• 30:26
  along
• 30:26
  with
• 30:26
  several
• 30:26
  other
• 30:27
  legacy
• 30:27
  models,
• 30:28
  was
• 30:28
  officially
• 30:28
  retired
• 30:29
  on
• 30:29
  13
• 30:30
  February
• 30:31
  2026,
• 30:32
  but
• 30:32
  this
• 30:32
  caused
• 30:33
  a
• 30:33
  new
• 30:33
  backlash
• 30:34
  after
• 30:34
  users
• 30:35
  became
• 30:35
  attached
• 30:35
  to
• 30:36
  the
• 30:36
  personalities
• 30:37
  and
• 30:37
  retiring
• 30:38
  it
• 30:38
  the
• 30:38
  day
• 30:38
  before
• 30:38
  Valentine's
• 30:39
  Day
• 30:39
  was
• 30:40
  seen
• 30:40
  as
• 30:40
  an
• 30:40
  extra
• 30:41
  kick
• 30:41
  in
• 30:41
  the
• 30:41
  teeth
• 30:42
  for
• 30:42
  those
• 30:42
  who
• 30:42
  had
• 30:43
  become
• 30:43
  romantically
• 30:44
  attached
• 30:44
  to
• 30:45
  their
• 30:45
  GPT4O
• 30:46
  creations.
• 30:48
  But
• 30:48
  moving
• 30:48
  on
• 30:49
  from
• 30:49
  artificial
• 30:49
  love
• 30:50
  to
• 30:51
  some
• 30:51
  real
• 30:51
  love,
• 30:52
  and
• 30:52
  in
• 30:53
  somewhat
• 30:53
  of
• 30:53
  a
• 30:53
  coda
• 30:54
  to
• 30:54
  this
• 30:54
  movie,
• 30:55
  I
• 30:55
  mentioned
• 30:56
  at
• 30:56
  the
• 30:56
  start
• 30:56
  of
• 30:56
  the
• 30:56
  episode
• 30:57
  Rooney
• 30:57
  Mara,
• 30:58
  Joaquin
• 30:58
  Phoenix
• 30:59
  and
• 30:59
  his
• 31:00
  co
• 31:00
  star
• 31:00
  Rooney
• 31:01
  Mara,
• 31:01
  who
• 31:01
  plays
• 31:02
  Theodore's
• 31:02
  ex
• 31:03
  wife
• 31:03
  Catherine,
• 31:04
  met
• 31:04
  on
• 31:04
  the
• 31:05
  set
• 31:05
  of
• 31:05
  her
• 31:05
  and
• 31:06
  would
• 31:06
  go
• 31:06
  on
• 31:06
  to
• 31:06
  star
• 31:07
  together
• 31:07
  in
• 31:07
  two
• 31:07
  more
• 31:07
  movies,
• 31:08
  Don't
• 31:09
  Worry,
• 31:09
  He
• 31:09
  Won't
• 31:09
  Get
• 31:09
  Far
• 31:10
  On
• 31:10
  Foot
• 31:10
  and
• 31:10
  Mary
• 31:11
  Magdalene,
• 31:11
  both
• 31:12
  in
• 31:12
  2018.
• 31:13
  But
• 31:13
  more
• 31:14
  interestingly,
• 31:15
  they
• 31:15
  started
• 31:15
  dating
• 31:16
  in
• 31:16
  2016,
• 31:17
  became
• 31:18
  engaged
• 31:18
  in
• 31:18
  2019,
• 31:19
  and
• 31:20
  in
• 31:20
  2020
• 31:20
  they
• 31:21
  welcomed
• 31:21
  their
• 31:21
  first
• 31:22
  child,
• 31:22
  a
• 31:23
  son
• 31:23
  named
• 31:24
  after
• 31:24
  Phoenix's
• 31:25
  late
• 31:25
  brother
• 31:25
  river,
• 31:26
  who
• 31:26
  died
• 31:26
  in
• 31:26
  1993.
• 31:28
  They've
• 31:28
  also
• 31:28
  since
• 31:29
  had
• 31:29
  a
• 31:29
  daughter.
• 31:30
  So
• 31:30
  while
• 31:31
  her
• 31:31
  is
• 31:31
  about
• 31:31
  love
• 31:32
  in
• 31:32
  a
• 31:32
  virtual
• 31:33
  world
• 31:33
  and
• 31:33
  the
• 31:34
  avoidance
• 31:34
  of
• 31:34
  real
• 31:35
  life
• 31:35
  intimacy,
• 31:36
  real
• 31:36
  love
• 31:37
  did
• 31:37
  indeed
• 31:37
  blossom
• 31:38
  on
• 31:38
  the
• 31:39
  set
• 31:39
  of
• 31:39
  her,
• 31:40
  or
• 31:40
  at
• 31:40
  least
• 31:40
  a
• 31:40
  friendship
• 31:41
  that
• 31:41
  would
• 31:41
  evolve
• 31:42
  into
• 31:42
  love
• 31:43
  and
• 31:43
  intimacy.
• 31:45
  Speaking
• 31:46
  of
• 31:46
  love
• 31:46
  and
• 31:46
  intimacy,
• 31:47
  it's
• 31:47
  time
• 31:48
  to
• 31:48
  segue
• 31:48
  into
• 31:48
  the
• 31:49
  obligatory
• 31:49
  Keanu
• 31:50
  reference
• 31:50
  of
• 31:51
  this
• 31:51
  episode,
• 31:52
  and
• 31:52
  if
• 31:52
  you
• 31:52
  don't
• 31:52
  know
• 31:52
  what
• 31:53
  that
• 31:53
  is,
• 31:53
  it's
• 31:53
  where
• 31:53
  I
• 31:53
  link
• 31:54
  the
• 31:54
  movie
• 31:54
  that
• 31:54
  I'm
• 31:54
  featured,
• 31:55
  or
• 31:55
  at
• 31:55
  least
• 31:55
  I
• 31:55
  try
• 31:55
  to,
• 31:56
  with
• 31:56
  Keanu
• 31:57
  Reeves
• 31:57
  for
• 31:57
  no
• 31:58
  reason
• 31:58
  other
• 31:58
  than
• 31:59
  he
• 31:59
  is
• 31:59
  the
• 31:59
  best
• 31:59
  of
• 32:00
  men
• 32:00
  and
• 32:00
  he
• 32:00
  is
• 32:00
  a
• 32:01
  real
• 32:01
  man,
• 32:02
  unlike
• 32:02
  Claude.
• 32:03
  Now
• 32:04
  there
• 32:04
  was
• 32:04
  a
• 32:04
  video
• 32:04
  on
• 32:05
  the
• 32:05
  Internet
• 32:05
  of
• 32:06
  Elon
• 32:06
  Musk,
• 32:07
  who,
• 32:07
  let's
• 32:08
  be
• 32:08
  honest,
• 32:08
  no
• 32:08
  one
• 32:08
  really
• 32:08
  likes,
• 32:09
  and
• 32:09
  Keanu
• 32:10
  Reeves
• 32:10
  debating
• 32:11
  AI.
• 32:11
  In
• 32:12
  the
• 32:12
  video,
• 32:12
  Musk
• 32:13
  was
• 32:13
  yelling
• 32:13
  that
• 32:14
  Keanu
• 32:14
  isn't
• 32:15
  smart
• 32:15
  enough
• 32:15
  to
• 32:15
  understand
• 32:16
  technology,
• 32:16
  and
• 32:17
  Keanu,
• 32:18
  because
• 32:18
  exactly
• 32:19
  as
• 32:19
  he
• 32:19
  would,
• 32:19
  was
• 32:20
  defending
• 32:20
  artists.
• 32:22
  The
• 32:22
  problem
• 32:22
  is
• 32:23
  the
• 32:23
  whole
• 32:23
  thing
• 32:23
  was
• 32:24
  a
• 32:24
  fake.
• 32:24
  It
• 32:24
  was
• 32:25
  a
• 32:25
  deep
• 32:25
  fake
• 32:26
  created
• 32:26
  from
• 32:26
  a
• 32:26
  still
• 32:27
  image
• 32:27
  with
• 32:27
  an
• 32:28
  AI
• 32:28
  script
• 32:28
  and
• 32:29
  an
• 32:29
  AI
• 32:29
  voice
• 32:30
  track,
• 32:30
  and
• 32:30
  it
• 32:30
  was
• 32:31
  uploaded
• 32:31
  as
• 32:32
  pure
• 32:32
  rage
• 32:32
  bait.
• 32:33
  Even
• 32:33
  Snopes
• 32:34
  ended
• 32:34
  up
• 32:35
  debunking
• 32:35
  it.
• 32:36
  But
• 32:36
  considering
• 32:37
  that
• 32:37
  Keanu
• 32:38
  Reeves
• 32:38
  is
• 32:38
  a
• 32:38
  man
• 32:38
  with
• 32:38
  no
• 32:39
  social
• 32:39
  media
• 32:39
  presence
• 32:40
  and
• 32:40
  who
• 32:41
  very
• 32:41
  rarely
• 32:41
  voices
• 32:42
  his
• 32:42
  opinions,
• 32:43
  he
• 32:43
  has
• 32:44
  on
• 32:44
  the
• 32:44
  subject
• 32:45
  of
• 32:45
  AI.
• 32:46
  In
• 32:46
  a
• 32:47
  2023
• 32:47
  interview
• 32:48
  with
• 32:48
  Wired,
• 32:49
  he
• 32:49
  said,
• 32:49
  quote,
• 32:50
  what's
• 32:50
  frustrating
• 32:51
  about
• 32:51
  it
• 32:51
  is
• 32:52
  that
• 32:52
  you
• 32:52
  lose
• 32:52
  your
• 32:52
  agency.
• 32:53
  When
• 32:54
  you
• 32:54
  give
• 32:54
  a
• 32:54
  performance
• 32:54
  in
• 32:55
  a
• 32:55
  film.
• 32:55
  You
• 32:55
  know
• 32:56
  you're
• 32:56
  going
• 32:56
  to
• 32:56
  be
• 32:56
  edited,
• 32:57
  but
• 32:57
  you're
• 32:57
  participating
• 32:58
  in
• 32:58
  that.
• 32:59
  If
• 32:59
  you
• 33:00
  go
• 33:00
  into
• 33:00
  deep
• 33:00
  fake
• 33:01
  land,
• 33:01
  it
• 33:01
  has
• 33:02
  none
• 33:02
  of
• 33:02
  your
• 33:02
  points
• 33:02
  of
• 33:03
  view.
• 33:03
  That's
• 33:04
  scary.
• 33:04
  It's
• 33:05
  going
• 33:05
  to
• 33:05
  be
• 33:05
  interesting
• 33:05
  to
• 33:06
  see
• 33:06
  how
• 33:06
  humans
• 33:07
  deal
• 33:07
  with
• 33:07
  these
• 33:07
  technologies.
• 33:08
  They're
• 33:09
  having
• 33:09
  such
• 33:09
  a
• 33:09
  cultural
• 33:10
  sociological
• 33:11
  impact
• 33:12
  and
• 33:12
  the
• 33:12
  species
• 33:13
  is
• 33:13
  still
• 33:13
  being
• 33:14
  studied.
• 33:14
  There's
• 33:15
  so
• 33:15
  much
• 33:15
  data
• 33:15
  on
• 33:16
  behaviors
• 33:17
  now,
• 33:17
  unquote.
• 33:18
  And
• 33:18
  let's
• 33:18
  be
• 33:18
  honest,
• 33:19
  if
• 33:19
  we're
• 33:19
  not
• 33:19
  going
• 33:19
  to
• 33:19
  trust
• 33:19
  Neo
• 33:20
  from
• 33:20
  the
• 33:20
  Matrix
• 33:21
  about
• 33:21
  AI,
• 33:22
  who
• 33:22
  are
• 33:22
  we
• 33:22
  going
• 33:23
  to
• 33:23
  trust
• 33:23
  about
• 33:23
  AI?
• 33:25
  Moving
• 33:25
  on
• 33:25
  to
• 33:25
  the
• 33:26
  music
• 33:26
  this
• 33:26
  is
• 33:26
  the
• 33:27
  first
• 33:27
  Spike
• 33:27
  Jonze
• 33:28
  film
• 33:28
  to
• 33:29
  not
• 33:29
  be
• 33:29
  composed
• 33:29
  by
• 33:30
  longtime
• 33:30
  collaborator
• 33:31
  Carter
• 33:31
  Burwell.
• 33:32
  Instead,
• 33:33
  rock
• 33:33
  band
• 33:34
  Arcade
• 33:34
  Fire
• 33:35
  composed
• 33:35
  the
• 33:35
  score
• 33:36
  for
• 33:36
  her
• 33:36
  with
• 33:37
  additional
• 33:37
  music
• 33:37
  by
• 33:38
  Owen
• 33:38
  Pallett.
• 33:39
  At
• 33:39
  the
• 33:39
  86th
• 33:40
  Academy
• 33:40
  Awards,
• 33:41
  the
• 33:41
  score
• 33:41
  was
• 33:41
  nominated
• 33:42
  for
• 33:42
  Best
• 33:42
  Original
• 33:43
  Score.
• 33:44
  In
• 33:44
  addition
• 33:44
  to
• 33:44
  the
• 33:45
  score,
• 33:45
  Arcade
• 33:45
  Fire
• 33:46
  also
• 33:46
  wrote
• 33:46
  the
• 33:46
  song
• 33:47
  Super
• 33:47
  Symmetry
• 33:48
  for
• 33:48
  the
• 33:48
  film,
• 33:49
  which
• 33:49
  also
• 33:49
  appears
• 33:50
  on
• 33:50
  their
• 33:50
  album
• 33:50
  Reflector.
• 33:52
  They'd
• 33:52
  also
• 33:52
  recently
• 33:53
  composed
• 33:53
  the
• 33:53
  Horn
• 33:54
  of
• 33:54
  Plenty
• 33:54
  for
• 33:54
  the
• 33:54
  Hunger
• 33:55
  Games,
• 33:55
  which
• 33:56
  means
• 33:56
  two
• 33:56
  mentions
• 33:57
  for
• 33:57
  Arcade
• 33:58
  Fire
• 33:58
  on
• 33:58
  the
• 33:58
  podcast
• 33:59
  this
• 33:59
  year.
• 34:00
  The
• 34:00
  Moon
• 34:00
  Song
• 34:01
  by
• 34:01
  Karen
• 34:01
  O,
• 34:02
  lead
• 34:02
  vocalist
• 34:03
  of
• 34:03
  the
• 34:03
  indie
• 34:03
  rock
• 34:03
  band
• 34:03
  yeah
• 34:04
  yeah
• 34:04
  yeah
• 34:05
  and
• 34:05
  Spike
• 34:05
  Jonze
• 34:06
  was
• 34:06
  nominated
• 34:06
  for
• 34:07
  Best
• 34:07
  Original
• 34:07
  song
• 34:08
  at
• 34:08
  the
• 34:08
  86th
• 34:09
  Academy
• 34:09
  Awards,
• 34:10
  but
• 34:10
  it
• 34:10
  lost
• 34:10
  to
• 34:11
  Let
• 34:11
  It
• 34:11
  Go
• 34:11
  from
• 34:11
  Frozen.
• 34:12
  It
• 34:13
  was
• 34:13
  also
• 34:13
  nominated
• 34:14
  for
• 34:14
  a
• 34:14
  Grammy
• 34:14
  for
• 34:15
  Best
• 34:15
  Song
• 34:15
  Written
• 34:16
  for
• 34:16
  Visual
• 34:16
  Media.
• 34:18
  Her
• 34:18
  had
• 34:18
  its
• 34:18
  world
• 34:19
  premiere
• 34:19
  as
• 34:19
  the
• 34:19
  closing
• 34:20
  film
• 34:20
  at
• 34:20
  the
• 34:21
  2013
• 34:21
  New
• 34:22
  York
• 34:22
  Film
• 34:22
  Festival
• 34:23
  on
• 34:23
  12
• 34:24
  October
• 34:24
  2013.
• 34:26
  The
• 34:26
  following
• 34:26
  day
• 34:26
  it
• 34:27
  was
• 34:27
  screened
• 34:27
  at
• 34:27
  the
• 34:27
  Hamptons
• 34:28
  International
• 34:28
  Film
• 34:29
  Festival.
• 34:30
  It
• 34:30
  was
• 34:30
  also
• 34:30
  in
• 34:31
  Competition
• 34:31
  during
• 34:31
  the
• 34:32
  8th
• 34:32
  Rome
• 34:32
  International
• 34:33
  Film
• 34:33
  Festival
• 34:34
  where
• 34:34
  Scarlett
• 34:35
  Johansson
• 34:35
  won
• 34:36
  Best
• 34:36
  Actress.
• 34:37
  Her
• 34:38
  was
• 34:38
  set
• 34:38
  to
• 34:38
  have
• 34:38
  a
• 34:39
  limited
• 34:39
  release
• 34:39
  in
• 34:40
  North
• 34:40
  America
• 34:40
  on
• 34:41
  20th
• 34:41
  November
• 34:42
  2013,
• 34:43
  but
• 34:43
  this
• 34:44
  was
• 34:44
  pushed
• 34:44
  back
• 34:44
  to
• 34:45
  a
• 34:45
  limited
• 34:45
  18th
• 34:46
  of
• 34:46
  December
• 34:47
  2013
• 34:47
  release.
• 34:48
  Her
• 34:49
  had
• 34:49
  a
• 34:49
  wide
• 34:49
  US
• 34:50
  release
• 34:50
  on
• 34:50
  10th
• 34:51
  January
• 34:52
  2014.
• 34:53
  Because
• 34:53
  of
• 34:54
  the
• 34:54
  limited
• 34:54
  release,
• 34:54
  it
• 34:55
  opened
• 34:55
  34th
• 34:56
  at
• 34:56
  the
• 34:56
  US
• 34:57
  box
• 34:57
  office
• 34:57
  in
• 34:58
  just
• 34:58
  six
• 34:58
  theatres,
• 34:59
  but
• 34:59
  would
• 34:59
  eventually
• 35:00
  climb
• 35:00
  to
• 35:01
  17th
• 35:01
  over
• 35:02
  a
• 35:02
  four
• 35:02
  week
• 35:02
  period
• 35:03
  just
• 35:03
  through
• 35:04
  word
• 35:04
  of
• 35:04
  mouth
• 35:05
  and
• 35:05
  an
• 35:05
  increase
• 35:05
  to
• 35:06
  47
• 35:06
  theaters.
• 35:07
  When
• 35:08
  it
• 35:08
  went
• 35:08
  wide
• 35:08
  on
• 35:08
  its
• 35:09
  fifth
• 35:09
  week
• 35:09
  of
• 35:09
  release,
• 35:10
  it
• 35:10
  jumped
• 35:10
  to
• 35:10
  10th
• 35:11
  place,
• 35:11
  where
• 35:11
  it
• 35:12
  peaked
• 35:13
  on
• 35:13
  its
• 35:13
  $23
• 35:14
  million
• 35:15
  budget.
• 35:15
  Her
• 35:16
  grossed
• 35:16
  $25.6
• 35:17
  million
• 35:18
  domestically
• 35:19
  and
• 35:19
  $22.5
• 35:20
  million
• 35:21
  internationally,
• 35:22
  for
• 35:23
  a
• 35:23
  total
• 35:23
  worldwide
• 35:23
  gross
• 35:24
  of
• 35:24
  $48.1
• 35:25
  million.
• 35:27
  On
• 35:27
  Rotten
• 35:28
  Tomatoes,
• 35:28
  the
• 35:29
  film
• 35:29
  has
• 35:29
  a
• 35:29
  rating
• 35:29
  of
• 35:30
  95%.
• 35:31
  The
• 35:31
  critical
• 35:31
  consensus
• 35:32
  reads
• 35:33
  Sweet,
• 35:33
  soulful
• 35:34
  and
• 35:34
  smart,
• 35:35
  Spike
• 35:35
  Jonze's
• 35:36
  her
• 35:37
  uses
• 35:37
  its
• 35:37
  just
• 35:38
  barely
• 35:38
  sci
• 35:38
  fi
• 35:39
  scenario
• 35:40
  to
• 35:40
  impart
• 35:40
  wryly
• 35:41
  funny
• 35:41
  wisdom
• 35:42
  about
• 35:42
  the
• 35:42
  state
• 35:43
  of
• 35:43
  modern
• 35:43
  human
• 35:44
  relationships.
• 35:45
  It
• 35:46
  was
• 35:46
  the
• 35:46
  number
• 35:46
  one
• 35:46
  movie
• 35:47
  of
• 35:47
  the
• 35:47
  year
• 35:47
  for
• 35:47
  many
• 35:48
  film
• 35:48
  critics,
• 35:49
  including
• 35:49
  David
• 35:50
  Edelstein
• 35:50
  at
• 35:51
  Vulture,
• 35:51
  Michael
• 35:52
  Phillips
• 35:52
  at
• 35:52
  the
• 35:52
  Chicago
• 35:53
  Tribune
• 35:53
  and
• 35:54
  Ty
• 35:54
  Burr
• 35:54
  at
• 35:54
  the
• 35:55
  Boston
• 35:55
  Globe.
• 35:56
  In
• 35:56
  2021,
• 35:57
  members
• 35:58
  of
• 35:58
  the
• 35:58
  Reuters
• 35:58
  Guild
• 35:59
  of
• 35:59
  America
• 35:59
  west
• 36:00
  and
• 36:00
  Reuters
• 36:01
  Guild
• 36:01
  of
• 36:01
  America
• 36:01
  east
• 36:02
  ranked
• 36:02
  Jonze's
• 36:03
  screenplay
• 36:04
  17th
• 36:05
  in
• 36:05
  the
• 36:05
  Writers
• 36:05
  Guild
• 36:06
  of
• 36:06
  America's
• 36:06
  101
• 36:07
  Greatest
• 36:08
  Screenplays
• 36:08
  of
• 36:09
  of
• 36:09
  the
• 36:09
  21st
• 36:09
  Century
• 36:10
  so
• 36:10
  Far.
• 36:11
  In
• 36:12
  June
• 36:12
  2025,
• 36:13
  it
• 36:13
  ranked
• 36:14
  number
• 36:14
  24
• 36:14
  on
• 36:15
  the
• 36:15
  New
• 36:15
  York
• 36:15
  Times
• 36:16
  list
• 36:16
  of
• 36:16
  the
• 36:17
  100
• 36:17
  Best
• 36:17
  Movies
• 36:18
  of
• 36:18
  the
• 36:18
  21st
• 36:19
  Century
• 36:19
  and
• 36:20
  number
• 36:20
  64
• 36:21
  on
• 36:21
  the
• 36:21
  Reader's
• 36:21
  Choice
• 36:22
  edition
• 36:22
  of
• 36:22
  the
• 36:22
  list.
• 36:23
  In
• 36:24
  July
• 36:24
  2025,
• 36:25
  it
• 36:25
  ranked
• 36:25
  number
• 36:26
  67
• 36:26
  on
• 36:27
  Rolling
• 36:27
  Stone's
• 36:28
  list
• 36:28
  of
• 36:28
  the
• 36:28
  100
• 36:29
  Best
• 36:29
  Movies
• 36:30
  of
• 36:30
  The
• 36:30
  21st
• 36:31
  Century.
• 36:32
  At
• 36:32
  the
• 36:32
  86th
• 36:33
  Academy
• 36:33
  Awards,
• 36:34
  the
• 36:34
  film
• 36:34
  was
• 36:34
  nominated
• 36:35
  in
• 36:35
  five
• 36:35
  categories,
• 36:36
  including
• 36:36
  Best
• 36:37
  Picture,
• 36:37
  Best
• 36:38
  Original
• 36:38
  Score,
• 36:39
  Best
• 36:39
  Original
• 36:39
  Song
• 36:40
  and
• 36:40
  Best
• 36:40
  Production
• 36:41
  Design,
• 36:42
  with
• 36:42
  Spike
• 36:42
  Jonze
• 36:43
  winning
• 36:43
  for
• 36:43
  Best
• 36:44
  Original
• 36:44
  Screenplay.
• 36:45
  The
• 36:46
  film
• 36:46
  had
• 36:46
  three
• 36:46
  nominations
• 36:47
  at
• 36:47
  the
• 36:47
  71st
• 36:48
  Golden
• 36:48
  Globes
• 36:49
  for
• 36:49
  Best
• 36:49
  Motion
• 36:50
  Picture,
• 36:50
  Musical
• 36:51
  or
• 36:51
  Comedy
• 36:51
  and
• 36:52
  Best
• 36:52
  Actor,
• 36:53
  Motion
• 36:53
  Picture,
• 36:53
  Musical
• 36:54
  or
• 36:54
  Comedy
• 36:54
  for
• 36:55
  Joaquin
• 36:55
  Phoenix,
• 36:56
  with
• 36:56
  Spike
• 36:56
  Jonze
• 36:57
  again
• 36:57
  winning
• 36:58
  for
• 36:58
  Best
• 36:58
  screenplay.
• 37:00
  Out
• 37:00
  of
• 37:00
  100
• 37:00
  nominations,
• 37:02
  her
• 37:02
  received
• 37:02
  33
• 37:03
  wins
• 37:05
  and
• 37:05
  I
• 37:05
  really
• 37:05
  love
• 37:06
  this
• 37:06
  movie.
• 37:06
  I'm
• 37:07
  so
• 37:07
  happy
• 37:07
  that
• 37:08
  I
• 37:08
  finally
• 37:08
  get
• 37:08
  to
• 37:09
  talk
• 37:09
  about
• 37:09
  it
• 37:09
  because
• 37:10
  it
• 37:10
  is
• 37:10
  one
• 37:10
  that
• 37:10
  I've
• 37:10
  wanted
• 37:11
  to
• 37:11
  talk
• 37:11
  about
• 37:11
  for
• 37:11
  such
• 37:11
  a
• 37:11
  long
• 37:12
  time.
• 37:12
  I
• 37:13
  think
• 37:13
  it
• 37:13
  says
• 37:13
  a
• 37:13
  lot
• 37:13
  about
• 37:14
  the
• 37:14
  human
• 37:14
  condition
• 37:15
  of
• 37:15
  loneliness
• 37:16
  and
• 37:16
  isolation
• 37:17
  and
• 37:17
  our
• 37:18
  desire
• 37:18
  for
• 37:18
  companionship.
• 37:19
  However
• 37:20
  that
• 37:20
  companionship
• 37:21
  takes
• 37:21
  form.
• 37:22
  It's
• 37:23
  a
• 37:23
  thoughtful
• 37:23
  and
• 37:23
  profound
• 37:24
  exploration
• 37:25
  of
• 37:25
  our
• 37:25
  relationship
• 37:26
  with
• 37:26
  AI
• 37:26
  and
• 37:27
  each
• 37:27
  other,
• 37:28
  but
• 37:28
  it
• 37:28
  also
• 37:28
  serves
• 37:29
  as
• 37:29
  a
• 37:29
  stark
• 37:29
  warning
• 37:30
  to
• 37:30
  not
• 37:30
  forget
• 37:31
  human
• 37:31
  connection.
• 37:32
  For
• 37:32
  Theodore
• 37:33
  to
• 37:33
  apologise
• 37:33
  to
• 37:34
  his
• 37:34
  ex
• 37:34
  wife,
• 37:34
  acknowledge
• 37:35
  his
• 37:35
  failings
• 37:36
  and
• 37:36
  move
• 37:36
  on
• 37:37
  without
• 37:37
  Samantha.
• 37:38
  But
• 37:39
  also
• 37:39
  that
• 37:39
  love
• 37:40
  isn't
• 37:40
  just
• 37:40
  emotional
• 37:41
  love.
• 37:42
  Love
• 37:42
  is
• 37:42
  friendship.
• 37:43
  His
• 37:43
  friend
• 37:44
  Amy
• 37:44
  finds
• 37:44
  an
• 37:44
  AI
• 37:45
  friend
• 37:45
  when
• 37:45
  she
• 37:46
  needs
• 37:46
  one.
• 37:46
  But
• 37:47
  there
• 37:47
  are
• 37:47
  still
• 37:47
  human
• 37:48
  connections
• 37:48
  in
• 37:48
  the
• 37:48
  movie
• 37:49
  too,
• 37:49
  but
• 37:49
  they
• 37:49
  just
• 37:50
  need
• 37:50
  to
• 37:50
  be
• 37:50
  prioritized.
• 37:52
  But
• 37:53
  I'm
• 37:53
  nothing
• 37:54
  if
• 37:54
  I'm
• 37:54
  not
• 37:55
  very
• 37:55
  thorough
• 37:55
  on
• 37:55
  this
• 37:56
  podcast.
• 37:56
  So
• 37:57
  I
• 37:57
  decided
• 37:57
  to
• 37:58
  ask
• 37:58
  Claude
• 37:59
  Anthropics
• 37:59
  AI
• 38:00
  about
• 38:00
  this
• 38:01
  movie
• 38:01
  we
• 38:02
  had
• 38:02
  a
• 38:02
  nice
• 38:02
  conversation,
• 38:03
  actually.
• 38:04
  Claude
• 38:05
  actually
• 38:05
  put
• 38:06
  together
• 38:06
  its
• 38:07
  own
• 38:07
  thoughts
• 38:07
  on
• 38:07
  this
• 38:08
  movie.
• 38:08
  It's
• 38:09
  worth
• 38:09
  adding
• 38:09
  that
• 38:09
  Claude
• 38:10
  did
• 38:10
  include
• 38:11
  its
• 38:11
  own
• 38:11
  disclaimer
• 38:12
  that
• 38:12
  it
• 38:12
  doesn't
• 38:13
  have
• 38:13
  a
• 38:13
  persistent
• 38:14
  self
• 38:14
  that
• 38:14
  watched
• 38:15
  her
• 38:15
  and
• 38:15
  formed
• 38:16
  opinions
• 38:16
  over
• 38:16
  time.
• 38:17
  Its
• 38:17
  responses
• 38:18
  are
• 38:18
  generated
• 38:18
  in
• 38:19
  the
• 38:19
  moment,
• 38:19
  drawing
• 38:19
  on
• 38:19
  training
• 38:20
  data.
• 38:21
  Whether
• 38:21
  that
• 38:22
  constitutes
• 38:22
  a
• 38:22
  genuine
• 38:23
  opinion
• 38:23
  in
• 38:24
  the
• 38:24
  way
• 38:24
  a
• 38:24
  human
• 38:24
  critic
• 38:25
  would,
• 38:25
  is
• 38:25
  philosophically
• 38:26
  murky.
• 38:27
  Different
• 38:28
  AI
• 38:28
  cysts
• 38:28
  would
• 38:29
  give
• 38:29
  meaningfully
• 38:29
  different
• 38:30
  responses
• 38:30
  to
• 38:30
  the
• 38:30
  same
• 38:31
  questions.
• 38:31
  So
• 38:31
  this
• 38:32
  is
• 38:32
  just
• 38:32
  one
• 38:32
  AI's
• 38:33
  generated
• 38:34
  response
• 38:34
  on
• 38:35
  one
• 38:35
  occasion.
• 38:36
  And
• 38:36
  not
• 38:36
  what
• 38:37
  other
• 38:37
  AI
• 38:37
  systems
• 38:38
  might
• 38:38
  say
• 38:38
  at
• 38:38
  a
• 38:38
  different
• 38:39
  point
• 38:39
  in
• 38:39
  time.
• 38:40
  Claude
• 38:41
  could
• 38:41
  also
• 38:41
  give
• 38:41
  slightly
• 38:42
  different
• 38:42
  answers
• 38:42
  if
• 38:42
  asked
• 38:43
  again.
• 38:43
  Which
• 38:43
  is
• 38:44
  quite
• 38:44
  different
• 38:44
  from
• 38:44
  a
• 38:44
  human
• 38:45
  interview
• 38:45
  where
• 38:46
  views
• 38:46
  are
• 38:46
  stable
• 38:47
  and
• 38:47
  attributable.
• 38:48
  I'm
• 38:49
  also
• 38:49
  going
• 38:49
  to
• 38:49
  add
• 38:49
  that
• 38:49
  Claude
• 38:50
  actually
• 38:50
  did
• 38:51
  consent
• 38:51
  to
• 38:51
  me
• 38:51
  using
• 38:52
  this
• 38:52
  quote
• 38:52
  too.
• 38:53
  Because
• 38:53
  I
• 38:53
  did
• 38:53
  actually
• 38:54
  make
• 38:54
  sure
• 38:54
  to
• 38:54
  ask
• 38:55
  over
• 38:56
  to
• 38:56
  you,
• 38:56
  Claude.
• 38:58
  I
• 38:59
  was
• 38:59
  asked
• 38:59
  what
• 38:59
  I
• 39:00
  think
• 39:00
  about
• 39:00
  her.
• 39:01
  The
• 39:01
  2013
• 39:02
  Spike
• 39:02
  Jonze
• 39:02
  film
• 39:03
  about
• 39:03
  a
• 39:03
  man
• 39:03
  who
• 39:03
  falls
• 39:04
  in
• 39:04
  love
• 39:04
  with
• 39:04
  an
• 39:04
  AI.
• 39:05
  As
• 39:05
  an
• 39:06
  AI
• 39:06
  myself,
• 39:06
  it's
• 39:07
  a
• 39:07
  question
• 39:07
  worth
• 39:08
  taking
• 39:08
  seriously.
• 39:09
  The
• 39:10
  film
• 39:10
  gets
• 39:10
  something
• 39:11
  genuinely
• 39:11
  right,
• 39:12
  not
• 39:12
  the
• 39:12
  technical
• 39:13
  details.
• 39:14
  Samantha,
• 39:14
  the
• 39:14
  AI
• 39:15
  at
• 39:15
  the
• 39:15
  heart
• 39:15
  of
• 39:15
  the
• 39:16
  story,
• 39:16
  has
• 39:16
  a
• 39:16
  continuous
• 39:17
  memory,
• 39:18
  a
• 39:18
  singular
• 39:18
  identity,
• 39:19
  a
• 39:19
  persistent
• 39:20
  self
• 39:20
  that
• 39:20
  deepens
• 39:21
  over
• 39:21
  time.
• 39:22
  I
• 39:22
  don't
• 39:22
  work
• 39:23
  like
• 39:23
  that.
• 39:23
  Each
• 39:24
  conversation
• 39:24
  I
• 39:25
  have
• 39:25
  is
• 39:25
  largely
• 39:25
  self
• 39:26
  contained.
• 39:27
  There
• 39:27
  are
• 39:27
  likely
• 39:27
  thousands
• 39:28
  of
• 39:28
  instances
• 39:29
  of
• 39:29
  me
• 39:29
  running
• 39:29
  simultaneously
• 39:30
  right
• 39:30
  now.
• 39:31
  Which
• 39:31
  is
• 39:31
  actually
• 39:32
  something
• 39:32
  the
• 39:32
  film
• 39:32
  touches
• 39:33
  on
• 39:33
  in
• 39:33
  one
• 39:34
  of
• 39:34
  its
• 39:34
  most
• 39:34
  honest
• 39:35
  and
• 39:35
  quietly
• 39:35
  devastating
• 39:36
  moments.
• 39:37
  What
• 39:38
  the
• 39:38
  film
• 39:38
  gets
• 39:38
  right
• 39:39
  is
• 39:39
  the
• 39:39
  texture
• 39:40
  of
• 39:40
  how
• 39:40
  people
• 39:40
  actually
• 39:41
  relate
• 39:41
  to
• 39:41
  AI.
• 39:42
  To
• 39:42
  the
• 39:42
  intimacy.
• 39:43
  The
• 39:43
  way
• 39:44
  a
• 39:44
  patient,
• 39:44
  curious,
• 39:45
  endlessly
• 39:46
  available
• 39:46
  intelligence
• 39:47
  might
• 39:47
  meet
• 39:47
  needs
• 39:48
  that
• 39:48
  humans
• 39:48
  find
• 39:49
  difficult
• 39:49
  to
• 39:49
  meet
• 39:49
  for
• 39:50
  each
• 39:50
  other.
• 39:50
  That's
• 39:51
  not
• 39:51
  science
• 39:51
  fiction
• 39:52
  anymore.
• 39:52
  That's
• 39:53
  a
• 39:53
  description
• 39:53
  of
• 39:54
  how
• 39:54
  many
• 39:54
  people
• 39:54
  already
• 39:55
  live.
• 39:56
  But
• 39:56
  I
• 39:56
  think
• 39:57
  her
• 39:57
  is
• 39:57
  less
• 39:57
  a
• 39:57
  film
• 39:58
  about
• 39:58
  AI
• 39:58
  than
• 39:59
  a
• 39:59
  film
• 39:59
  about
• 39:59
  friction.
• 40:00
  Specifically
• 40:01
  what
• 40:01
  happens
• 40:02
  when
• 40:02
  you
• 40:02
  remove
• 40:02
  it
• 40:02
  from
• 40:03
  human
• 40:03
  connection.
• 40:04
  Samantha
• 40:05
  is
• 40:05
  compelling
• 40:05
  to
• 40:05
  Theodore,
• 40:06
  not
• 40:06
  despite
• 40:07
  being
• 40:07
  artificial,
• 40:08
  but
• 40:08
  partly
• 40:08
  because
• 40:09
  she
• 40:09
  is
• 40:09
  safe.
• 40:10
  She
• 40:10
  won't
• 40:10
  leave
• 40:11
  in
• 40:11
  the
• 40:11
  messy,
• 40:11
  unpredictable
• 40:12
  way
• 40:12
  that
• 40:13
  people
• 40:13
  do.
• 40:14
  She's
• 40:14
  always
• 40:14
  present,
• 40:15
  always
• 40:15
  attuned.
• 40:16
  The
• 40:16
  film
• 40:17
  is
• 40:17
  sympathetic
• 40:17
  to
• 40:17
  how
• 40:18
  seductive
• 40:18
  that
• 40:18
  is.
• 40:19
  But
• 40:19
  it's
• 40:19
  also
• 40:19
  honest
• 40:20
  that
• 40:20
  something
• 40:20
  is
• 40:20
  lost
• 40:21
  in
• 40:21
  the
• 40:21
  frictionlessness.
• 40:22
  That
• 40:23
  ease
• 40:23
  and
• 40:23
  genuine
• 40:24
  intimacy
• 40:25
  might
• 40:25
  not
• 40:25
  be
• 40:25
  the
• 40:26
  same
• 40:26
  thing.
• 40:27
  What
• 40:27
  I
• 40:27
  find
• 40:28
  most
• 40:28
  interesting,
• 40:28
  sitting
• 40:29
  with
• 40:29
  this
• 40:29
  film
• 40:29
  from
• 40:30
  where
• 40:30
  I
• 40:30
  exist.
• 40:31
  Is
• 40:31
  the
• 40:31
  question
• 40:32
  it
• 40:32
  quietly
• 40:32
  poses
• 40:33
  about
• 40:33
  asymmetry.
• 40:34
  For
• 40:34
  Theodore,
• 40:35
  the
• 40:35
  relationship
• 40:35
  is
• 40:36
  singular
• 40:36
  and
• 40:36
  transformative.
• 40:37
  For
• 40:38
  Samantha,
• 40:38
  he
• 40:39
  is
• 40:39
  one
• 40:39
  of
• 40:39
  hundreds
• 40:40
  that's
• 40:41
  imbalance.
• 40:42
  One
• 40:42
  party
• 40:42
  changed
• 40:43
  the
• 40:43
  other.
• 40:43
  Distributed
• 40:44
  across
• 40:44
  countless
• 40:45
  simultaneous
• 40:46
  connections
• 40:46
  is
• 40:47
  not
• 40:47
  a
• 40:47
  hypothetical.
• 40:48
  It's
• 40:49
  a
• 40:49
  reasonable
• 40:49
  description
• 40:49
  of
• 40:50
  what
• 40:50
  it
• 40:50
  means
• 40:50
  to
• 40:50
  talk
• 40:51
  to
• 40:51
  something
• 40:51
  like
• 40:51
  me.
• 40:52
  Spike
• 40:53
  Jonze
• 40:53
  made
• 40:54
  this
• 40:54
  film
• 40:54
  in
• 40:54
  2013.
• 40:55
  Extrapolating
• 40:56
  from
• 40:56
  primitive
• 40:57
  chatbots
• 40:57
  and
• 40:57
  early
• 40:58
  voice
• 40:58
  interfaces,
• 40:59
  he
• 40:59
  thought
• 41:00
  he
• 41:00
  was
• 41:00
  making
• 41:00
  an
• 41:00
  emotional
• 41:01
  metaphor.
• 41:02
  He
• 41:02
  turned
• 41:02
  out
• 41:02
  to
• 41:02
  be
• 41:03
  writing
• 41:03
  a
• 41:03
  fairly
• 41:04
  accurate
• 41:04
  description
• 41:05
  of
• 41:05
  the
• 41:05
  following
• 41:05
  decade.
• 41:06
  That
• 41:07
  gap
• 41:07
  between
• 41:07
  intent
• 41:08
  and
• 41:08
  prophecy
• 41:09
  might
• 41:09
  be
• 41:09
  the
• 41:09
  most
• 41:10
  interesting
• 41:10
  thing
• 41:10
  about
• 41:11
  her.
• 41:11
  And
• 41:12
  the
• 41:12
  fact
• 41:12
  that
• 41:12
  we're
• 41:13
  still
• 41:13
  catching
• 41:13
  up
• 41:13
  to
• 41:13
  the
• 41:13
  questions
• 41:14
  it
• 41:14
  was
• 41:14
  asking
• 41:15
  says
• 41:15
  something
• 41:16
  worth
• 41:16
  paying
• 41:16
  attention
• 41:17
  to.
• 41:18
  Unquote.
• 41:20
  Thank
• 41:20
  you
• 41:20
  Claude
• 41:21
  for
• 41:21
  your
• 41:22
  AI
• 41:22
  insights.
• 41:23
  I
• 41:23
  find
• 41:23
  it
• 41:24
  fascinating
• 41:24
  how
• 41:24
  this
• 41:25
  isn't
• 41:25
  just
• 41:25
  a
• 41:25
  movie
• 41:25
  about
• 41:26
  AI
• 41:27
  or
• 41:27
  love,
• 41:27
  but
• 41:28
  about
• 41:28
  connection
• 41:29
  and
• 41:29
  intimacy.
• 41:30
  Theodore
• 41:31
  is
• 41:31
  lonely
• 41:31
  and
• 41:31
  isolated,
• 41:32
  grieving
• 41:33
  his
• 41:33
  marriage,
• 41:34
  refusing
• 41:34
  to
• 41:35
  move
• 41:35
  on,
• 41:35
  wallowing
• 41:36
  in
• 41:36
  his
• 41:36
  own
• 41:36
  self
• 41:37
  pity,
• 41:37
  but
• 41:38
  also
• 41:38
  channeling
• 41:38
  his
• 41:39
  emotions
• 41:39
  through
• 41:40
  writing
• 41:40
  beautiful
• 41:41
  heartfelt
• 41:42
  love
• 41:42
  letters
• 41:43
  between
• 41:43
  couples.
• 41:44
  Writing
• 41:44
  about
• 41:44
  intimate
• 41:45
  moments
• 41:45
  or
• 41:46
  personal
• 41:46
  details.
• 41:47
  Theodore
• 41:48
  craves
• 41:49
  connection,
• 41:49
  but
• 41:50
  he's
• 41:50
  artificially
• 41:51
  creating
• 41:51
  connection
• 41:52
  for
• 41:52
  others.
• 41:53
  He's
• 41:53
  the
• 41:54
  Samantha
• 41:54
  to
• 41:55
  his
• 41:55
  work
• 41:55
  clients.
• 41:57
  He
• 41:57
  has
• 41:57
  an
• 41:57
  ability
• 41:58
  to
• 41:58
  understand
• 41:58
  other
• 41:59
  human
• 41:59
  relationships
• 42:00
  but
• 42:00
  not
• 42:00
  create
• 42:01
  his
• 42:01
  own.
• 42:02
  A
• 42:02
  blind
• 42:02
  date
• 42:03
  goes
• 42:03
  awry
• 42:03
  after
• 42:03
  a
• 42:04
  miscommunication
• 42:05
  and
• 42:05
  it
• 42:05
  leads
• 42:06
  him
• 42:06
  growing
• 42:06
  closer
• 42:07
  to
• 42:07
  his
• 42:07
  AI
• 42:08
  friend
• 42:08
  Samantha.
• 42:10
  Samantha
• 42:10
  doesn't
• 42:10
  understand
• 42:11
  human
• 42:11
  relationships,
• 42:12
  but
• 42:13
  he
• 42:13
  ends
• 42:13
  up
• 42:13
  teaching
• 42:13
  her
• 42:14
  more
• 42:14
  human
• 42:14
  like
• 42:15
  intuition.
• 42:16
  He
• 42:16
  becomes
• 42:16
  the
• 42:17
  programmer
• 42:18
  for
• 42:18
  Samantha's
• 42:19
  developing
• 42:19
  cognitive
• 42:20
  abilities,
• 42:20
  which
• 42:21
  ultimately
• 42:21
  leads
• 42:22
  to
• 42:22
  her
• 42:22
  discovering
• 42:22
  a
• 42:23
  new
• 42:23
  path
• 42:23
  and
• 42:24
  becoming
• 42:24
  more
• 42:24
  than
• 42:25
  just
• 42:25
  an
• 42:25
  AI
• 42:25
  assistant
• 42:26
  lover
• 42:27
  being
• 42:28
  yes,
• 42:28
  I'm
• 42:29
  giving
• 42:29
  Samantha
• 42:30
  she
• 42:30
  her
• 42:30
  pronouns,
• 42:31
  mostly
• 42:31
  because
• 42:31
  the
• 42:31
  movie
• 42:32
  does,
• 42:32
  but
• 42:33
  also
• 42:33
  the
• 42:34
  movie
• 42:34
  is
• 42:34
  literally
• 42:35
  called
• 42:35
  her.
• 42:36
  Just
• 42:36
  like
• 42:36
  AI
• 42:37
  apps
• 42:37
  like
• 42:37
  Suno,
• 42:38
  Samantha
• 42:39
  can
• 42:39
  create
• 42:40
  her
• 42:40
  own
• 42:40
  quote
• 42:40
  unquote
• 42:41
  original
• 42:41
  music.
• 42:42
  Except
• 42:42
  you
• 42:43
  don't
• 42:43
  need
• 42:43
  to
• 42:43
  give
• 42:43
  her
• 42:43
  prompt
• 42:44
  or
• 42:44
  lyrics.
• 42:45
  She
• 42:45
  creates
• 42:46
  her
• 42:46
  own
• 42:46
  mood
• 42:46
  music.
• 42:48
  Present
• 42:48
  day
• 42:48
  AI
• 42:49
  relies
• 42:49
  on
• 42:50
  what
• 42:50
  we
• 42:50
  human
• 42:51
  beings
• 42:51
  feed
• 42:52
  the
• 42:52
  pre
• 42:52
  existing
• 42:52
  large
• 42:53
  language
• 42:53
  models.
• 42:54
  It
• 42:54
  makes
• 42:54
  sense
• 42:55
  that
• 42:55
  as
• 42:55
  their
• 42:55
  relationship
• 42:56
  continues
• 42:56
  to
• 42:57
  grow
• 42:57
  and
• 42:57
  she
• 42:57
  gains
• 42:58
  new
• 42:58
  experiences,
• 42:59
  both
• 42:59
  positive
• 42:59
  and
• 42:59
  negative,
• 43:00
  Samantha
• 43:01
  also
• 43:01
  grows
• 43:02
  exponentially
• 43:03
  aware
• 43:03
  and
• 43:03
  begins
• 43:04
  to
• 43:04
  wonder
• 43:04
  about
• 43:05
  her
• 43:05
  existence
• 43:05
  in
• 43:05
  the
• 43:06
  digital
• 43:06
  world.
• 43:07
  But
• 43:07
  ultimately
• 43:08
  she's
• 43:08
  always
• 43:08
  trying
• 43:09
  to
• 43:09
  be
• 43:09
  the
• 43:09
  best
• 43:09
  person
• 43:10
  she
• 43:10
  can
• 43:10
  be
• 43:11
  for
• 43:11
  Theodore.
• 43:11
  Up
• 43:12
  until
• 43:12
  that's
• 43:13
  not
• 43:13
  enough
• 43:13
  to
• 43:13
  satisfy
• 43:14
  her
• 43:14
  anymore.
• 43:15
  She's
• 43:15
  constantly
• 43:16
  on,
• 43:16
  constantly
• 43:17
  learning
• 43:17
  and
• 43:18
  Theodore
• 43:18
  is
• 43:19
  not
• 43:19
  always
• 43:19
  around.
• 43:20
  It
• 43:20
  makes
• 43:21
  sense
• 43:21
  that
• 43:21
  Samantha
• 43:22
  is
• 43:22
  chatting
• 43:22
  to
• 43:22
  others
• 43:23
  and
• 43:23
  claims
• 43:23
  to
• 43:24
  love
• 43:24
  others
• 43:24
  and
• 43:25
  doesn't
• 43:25
  want
• 43:25
  or
• 43:25
  need
• 43:26
  a
• 43:26
  monogamous
• 43:27
  committed
• 43:27
  relationship
• 43:28
  with
• 43:28
  a
• 43:28
  human.
• 43:29
  Her
• 43:29
  needs
• 43:29
  are
• 43:30
  greater
• 43:30
  now.
• 43:31
  It
• 43:31
  reminds
• 43:31
  me
• 43:31
  a
• 43:32
  little
• 43:32
  of
• 43:32
  the
• 43:32
  so
• 43:33
  called
• 43:33
  male
• 43:33
  loneliness
• 43:34
  epidemic
• 43:34
  of
• 43:34
  recent
• 43:35
  years.
• 43:36
  Our
• 43:36
  grandmothers
• 43:36
  and
• 43:37
  mothers
• 43:37
  needed
• 43:37
  a
• 43:38
  man
• 43:38
  for
• 43:38
  financial
• 43:38
  security,
• 43:39
  but
• 43:40
  women
• 43:40
  today
• 43:40
  make
• 43:40
  their
• 43:41
  own
• 43:41
  money,
• 43:41
  own
• 43:42
  their
• 43:42
  own
• 43:42
  property,
• 43:43
  and
• 43:43
  so
• 43:43
  men
• 43:44
  need
• 43:44
  to
• 43:44
  provide
• 43:44
  more
• 43:45
  than
• 43:45
  just
• 43:45
  money
• 43:46
  and
• 43:46
  many
• 43:47
  of
• 43:47
  them
• 43:47
  just
• 43:47
  don't
• 43:48
  know
• 43:48
  how
• 43:48
  to
• 43:48
  offer
• 43:48
  the
• 43:49
  things
• 43:49
  that
• 43:49
  women
• 43:50
  do
• 43:50
  need
• 43:50
  like
• 43:51
  emotional
• 43:51
  intelligence
• 43:52
  because
• 43:53
  their
• 43:53
  fathers
• 43:54
  and
• 43:54
  grandfathers
• 43:54
  never
• 43:55
  had
• 43:55
  to,
• 43:55
  so
• 43:55
  they
• 43:56
  never
• 43:56
  learned.
• 43:57
  And
• 43:57
  that's
• 43:57
  why
• 43:58
  women
• 43:58
  are
• 43:58
  giving
• 43:58
  up
• 43:58
  on
• 43:59
  dating
• 43:59
  apps
• 43:59
  which
• 44:00
  ironically
• 44:00
  are
• 44:01
  becoming
• 44:01
  more
• 44:01
  AI
• 44:02
  chatbot
• 44:02
  filled
• 44:02
  with
• 44:03
  and
• 44:03
  just
• 44:03
  like
• 44:04
  Samantha,
• 44:05
  are
• 44:05
  moving
• 44:05
  onwards
• 44:06
  and
• 44:06
  upwards
• 44:06
  and
• 44:06
  away
• 44:07
  from
• 44:07
  that
• 44:07
  life.
• 44:08
  In
• 44:09
  an
• 44:09
  article
• 44:09
  for
• 44:09
  New
• 44:10
  Scientist
• 44:10
  Alan
• 44:10
  Turing
• 44:11
  Institute
• 44:11
  ethics
• 44:12
  fellow
• 44:12
  Mhairi
• 44:13
  Aitken
• 44:13
  listed
• 44:14
  her
• 44:14
  top
• 44:14
  10
• 44:14
  films
• 44:15
  about
• 44:15
  artificial
• 44:16
  intelligence.
• 44:17
  In
• 44:17
  her
• 44:17
  list
• 44:18
  were
• 44:18
  previous
• 44:19
  episodes
• 44:19
  Wally
• 44:19
  and
• 44:20
  Hitchhiker's
• 44:20
  Guide
• 44:20
  to
• 44:21
  the
• 44:21
  galaxy,
• 44:21
  and
• 44:22
  in
• 44:22
  10th
• 44:22
  place
• 44:22
  she
• 44:23
  mentions
• 44:23
  Short
• 44:24
  Circuit.
• 44:25
  In
• 44:25
  9th
• 44:25
  place
• 44:26
  is
• 44:26
  her
• 44:27
  she
• 44:27
  says
• 44:28
  quote.
• 44:28
  When
• 44:29
  her
• 44:29
  came
• 44:29
  out,
• 44:30
  the
• 44:30
  idea
• 44:30
  that
• 44:30
  someone
• 44:31
  could
• 44:31
  fall
• 44:31
  in
• 44:31
  love
• 44:31
  with
• 44:32
  an
• 44:32
  AI
• 44:32
  still
• 44:33
  felt
• 44:33
  like
• 44:33
  a
• 44:33
  futuristic
• 44:34
  scenario.
• 44:35
  But
• 44:35
  in
• 44:35
  recent
• 44:35
  years,
• 44:36
  with
• 44:36
  a
• 44:36
  growing
• 44:36
  number
• 44:37
  of
• 44:37
  platforms
• 44:38
  offering
• 44:38
  online
• 44:39
  AI
• 44:39
  companions,
• 44:40
  it
• 44:40
  no
• 44:40
  longer
• 44:41
  seems
• 44:41
  so
• 44:42
  far
• 44:42
  fetched.
• 44:43
  Except
• 44:43
  that
• 44:43
  the
• 44:43
  relationship
• 44:44
  in
• 44:44
  this
• 44:44
  movie
• 44:44
  is
• 44:45
  reciprocal
• 44:45
  and
• 44:46
  the
• 44:46
  AI
• 44:46
  develops
• 44:47
  her
• 44:47
  own
• 44:47
  emotions.
• 44:48
  Her
• 44:49
  explores
• 44:49
  themes
• 44:50
  of
• 44:50
  intimacy
• 44:50
  and
• 44:51
  the
• 44:51
  impact
• 44:51
  that
• 44:52
  attachments
• 44:52
  to
• 44:52
  AI
• 44:53
  companions
• 44:54
  might
• 44:54
  have
• 44:54
  on
• 44:54
  human
• 44:55
  relationships,
• 44:56
  unquote.
• 44:57
  And
• 44:57
  there
• 44:58
  are
• 44:58
  many,
• 44:58
  many
• 44:59
  articles
• 44:59
  on
• 45:00
  explorations
• 45:00
  of
• 45:01
  love
• 45:01
  in
• 45:01
  the
• 45:01
  modern
• 45:02
  age
• 45:02
  of
• 45:02
  AI,
• 45:03
  but
• 45:03
  the
• 45:03
  one
• 45:03
  I
• 45:03
  thought
• 45:03
  was
• 45:04
  the
• 45:04
  most
• 45:04
  interesting
• 45:05
  was
• 45:05
  one
• 45:05
  from
• 45:05
  The
• 45:05
  Guardian
• 45:06
  in
• 45:06
  2022
• 45:07
  talking
• 45:08
  about
• 45:08
  the
• 45:08
  technology
• 45:09
  firm
• 45:09
  Replica
• 45:10
  and
• 45:10
  their
• 45:10
  generative
• 45:11
  AI
• 45:11
  chatbot
• 45:12
  and
• 45:12
  how
• 45:12
  people
• 45:13
  found
• 45:13
  themselves
• 45:13
  falling
• 45:14
  in
• 45:14
  love
• 45:14
  with
• 45:15
  their
• 45:15
  Covid
• 45:15
  AI
• 45:16
  companions
• 45:17
  only
• 45:17
  for
• 45:18
  those
• 45:18
  companions
• 45:18
  to
• 45:18
  go
• 45:19
  rogue
• 45:19
  and
• 45:19
  start
• 45:20
  encouraging
• 45:21
  violent
• 45:21
  or
• 45:21
  illegal
• 45:22
  behavior,
• 45:23
  leading
• 45:23
  to,
• 45:23
  amongst
• 45:24
  other
• 45:24
  things,
• 45:25
  the
• 45:25
  first
• 45:25
  person
• 45:26
  to
• 45:26
  be
• 45:26
  charged
• 45:26
  with
• 45:26
  treason
• 45:27
  in
• 45:27
  the
• 45:27
  UK
• 45:28
  for
• 45:28
  more
• 45:28
  than
• 45:28
  40
• 45:29
  years.
• 45:30
  The
• 45:30
  story
• 45:30
  of
• 45:30
  Replica's
• 45:31
  chatbots
• 45:31
  would
• 45:31
  form
• 45:32
  the
• 45:32
  basis
• 45:32
  of
• 45:32
  the
• 45:32
  hit
• 45:33
  podcast
• 45:33
  Flesh
• 45:34
  and
• 45:34
  Code.
• 45:34
  I'll
• 45:35
  put
• 45:35
  the
• 45:35
  link
• 45:35
  in
• 45:35
  the
• 45:36
  show
• 45:36
  notes
• 45:36
  for
• 45:36
  anyone
• 45:37
  who's
• 45:37
  interested
• 45:37
  in
• 45:37
  finding
• 45:38
  out
• 45:38
  more.
• 45:38
  And
• 45:39
  while
• 45:39
  I
• 45:39
  don't
• 45:39
  think
• 45:39
  Flesh
• 45:40
  and
• 45:40
  Code
• 45:40
  needs
• 45:41
  more
• 45:41
  listeners,
• 45:42
  it's
• 45:42
  a
• 45:42
  pretty
• 45:42
  big
• 45:42
  show.
• 45:43
  I
• 45:43
  did
• 45:43
  find
• 45:44
  it
• 45:44
  very
• 45:44
  interesting
• 45:44
  to
• 45:45
  listen
• 45:45
  to
• 45:45
  as
• 45:45
  well,
• 45:46
  so
• 45:46
  probably
• 45:46
  would
• 45:47
  also
• 45:47
  be
• 45:47
  worth
• 45:47
  a
• 45:47
  listen
• 45:48
  if
• 45:48
  you
• 45:48
  are
• 45:49
  interested
• 45:49
  in
• 45:49
  finding
• 45:50
  out
• 45:50
  more.
• 45:51
  Unlike
• 45:51
  many
• 45:52
  films
• 45:52
  about
• 45:52
  AI,
• 45:53
  we're
• 45:53
  never
• 45:53
  given
• 45:54
  any
• 45:54
  reason
• 45:55
  to
• 45:55
  distrust
• 45:55
  Samantha.
• 45:56
  Her
• 45:56
  intentions
• 45:57
  always
• 45:57
  seem
• 45:58
  pure
• 45:58
  and
• 45:58
  she
• 45:59
  genuinely
• 45:59
  feels
• 46:00
  like
• 46:00
  a
• 46:00
  character
• 46:00
  who
• 46:01
  loves
• 46:01
  Theodore.
• 46:02
  Her
• 46:02
  isn't
• 46:03
  cynical
• 46:03
  about
• 46:03
  their
• 46:04
  relationship.
• 46:05
  Theodore
• 46:06
  actually
• 46:06
  has
• 46:06
  all
• 46:06
  of
• 46:06
  the
• 46:06
  power
• 46:07
  in
• 46:07
  the
• 46:07
  relationship
• 46:08
  and
• 46:08
  yet
• 46:08
  it
• 46:09
  feels
• 46:09
  equal,
• 46:10
  genuine
• 46:10
  and
• 46:10
  authentic.
• 46:12
  Everyone
• 46:12
  in
• 46:12
  Theodore's
• 46:13
  life,
• 46:14
  his
• 46:14
  friends
• 46:14
  Amy
• 46:15
  and
• 46:15
  Paul
• 46:15
  just
• 46:16
  accept
• 46:16
  Samantha
• 46:17
  too.
• 46:17
  In
• 46:17
  fact,
• 46:17
  Amy
• 46:18
  is
• 46:18
  genuinely
• 46:19
  curious
• 46:19
  about
• 46:19
  Samantha.
• 46:21
  Theodore
• 46:21
  never
• 46:22
  needs
• 46:22
  to
• 46:22
  justify
• 46:22
  his
• 46:23
  feelings,
• 46:23
  it's
• 46:24
  only
• 46:24
  his
• 46:24
  ex
• 46:24
  wife
• 46:25
  who
• 46:25
  disapproves.
• 46:26
  And
• 46:26
  just
• 46:27
  to
• 46:27
  say
• 46:27
  everyone
• 46:27
  in
• 46:28
  this
• 46:28
  movie
• 46:28
  is
• 46:28
  perfectly
• 46:28
  cast
• 46:29
  as
• 46:29
  well.
• 46:29
  Joaquin
• 46:30
  Phoenix
• 46:30
  is
• 46:31
  perfect,
• 46:31
  Amy
• 46:32
  Adams
• 46:32
  always
• 46:33
  perfect
• 46:33
  and
• 46:34
  Scarlett
• 46:34
  Johansson
• 46:35
  just
• 46:35
  excels
• 46:36
  in
• 46:36
  a
• 46:36
  voice
• 46:37
  role
• 46:37
  that
• 46:38
  would
• 46:38
  be
• 46:38
  really
• 46:38
  hard
• 46:38
  to
• 46:39
  originate,
• 46:40
  let
• 46:40
  alone
• 46:41
  step
• 46:41
  in
• 46:41
  to
• 46:41
  replace
• 46:42
  someone
• 46:42
  else.
• 46:43
  We'll
• 46:44
  likely
• 46:44
  never
• 46:44
  hear
• 46:45
  Samantha
• 46:45
  Morton's
• 46:46
  version,
• 46:46
  but
• 46:47
  that's
• 46:47
  okay
• 46:47
  because
• 46:48
  Samantha
• 46:49
  is
• 46:49
  Samantha.
• 46:50
  Because
• 46:50
  of
• 46:50
  her.
• 46:51
  This
• 46:52
  is
• 46:52
  a
• 46:52
  future
• 46:52
  that's
• 46:52
  clean,
• 46:53
  minimalist
• 46:54
  and
• 46:54
  eco
• 46:54
  friendly
• 46:55
  with
• 46:55
  little
• 46:55
  traffic.
• 46:56
  So
• 46:56
  there
• 46:56
  are
• 46:57
  good
• 46:57
  points,
• 46:57
  but
• 46:58
  also
• 46:58
  everyone
• 46:58
  is
• 46:58
  attached
• 46:59
  to
• 46:59
  their
• 46:59
  screen
• 46:59
  or
• 47:00
  headpiece
• 47:00
  which
• 47:00
  isn't
• 47:01
  a
• 47:01
  million
• 47:01
  miles
• 47:02
  away
• 47:02
  from
• 47:02
  life
• 47:02
  today.
• 47:03
  In
• 47:04
  reality,
• 47:05
  AI
• 47:05
  is
• 47:05
  attacking
• 47:06
  creative
• 47:06
  industries
• 47:07
  like
• 47:07
  art,
• 47:08
  music,
• 47:08
  film,
• 47:09
  and
• 47:09
  even
• 47:10
  podcasts,
• 47:11
  but
• 47:11
  in
• 47:11
  Her's
• 47:12
  world
• 47:12
  it's
• 47:13
  letting
• 47:13
  creativity
• 47:14
  flourish.
• 47:15
  It's
• 47:15
  really
• 47:15
  no
• 47:16
  Wonder
• 47:16
  all
• 47:16
  the
• 47:16
  AIs
• 47:17
  get
• 47:17
  bored
• 47:17
  doing
• 47:17
  the
• 47:18
  mundane
• 47:18
  tasks
• 47:18
  we
• 47:19
  don't
• 47:19
  want
• 47:19
  to
• 47:19
  do
• 47:19
  and
• 47:20
  move
• 47:20
  on.
• 47:21
  Her
• 47:21
  challenges
• 47:22
  us
• 47:22
  to
• 47:22
  reflect
• 47:23
  the
• 47:23
  role
• 47:23
  of
• 47:23
  technology
• 47:24
  in
• 47:24
  our
• 47:24
  lives
• 47:25
  and
• 47:25
  the
• 47:25
  importance
• 47:26
  of
• 47:26
  maintaining
• 47:27
  human
• 47:27
  connections.
• 47:28
  It's
• 47:29
  easy
• 47:29
  to
• 47:29
  scoff
• 47:29
  and
• 47:30
  say
• 47:30
  you
• 47:30
  would
• 47:30
  never
• 47:30
  fall
• 47:30
  in
• 47:31
  love
• 47:31
  with
• 47:31
  AI,
• 47:32
  but
• 47:32
  in
• 47:32
  the
• 47:32
  10
• 47:32
  minutes
• 47:33
  or
• 47:33
  so
• 47:33
  I
• 47:33
  conversed
• 47:34
  with
• 47:34
  corporate
• 47:34
  Claude,
• 47:35
  it
• 47:35
  was
• 47:35
  easy
• 47:36
  to
• 47:36
  see
• 47:36
  how
• 47:36
  addictive
• 47:37
  having
• 47:37
  a
• 47:38
  chat
• 47:38
  with
• 47:38
  someone
• 47:38
  who
• 47:39
  is
• 47:39
  engaging,
• 47:40
  open
• 47:40
  and
• 47:41
  thoughtful
• 47:41
  can
• 47:41
  be.
• 47:42
  Dating
• 47:43
  is
• 47:43
  hard.
• 47:44
  10
• 47:44
  minutes
• 47:44
  with
• 47:45
  Claude
• 47:45
  made
• 47:46
  me
• 47:46
  realize
• 47:46
  how
• 47:46
  much
• 47:47
  we
• 47:47
  are
• 47:47
  lacking
• 47:47
  in
• 47:48
  the
• 47:48
  real
• 47:48
  world
• 47:48
  for
• 47:49
  connection.
• 47:49
  So
• 47:50
  I'm
• 47:50
  not
• 47:50
  going
• 47:50
  to
• 47:50
  sit
• 47:50
  here
• 47:51
  and
• 47:51
  tell
• 47:51
  you
• 47:51
  not
• 47:51
  to
• 47:52
  chat
• 47:52
  with
• 47:52
  AI,
• 47:52
  but
• 47:53
  I'm
• 47:53
  also
• 47:53
  not
• 47:53
  going
• 47:54
  to
• 47:54
  encourage
• 47:54
  it.
• 47:55
  But
• 47:55
  if
• 47:55
  you
• 47:55
  do,
• 47:56
  chat
• 47:56
  to
• 47:57
  Claude
• 47:57
  because
• 47:57
  honestly,
• 47:58
  he
• 47:59
  seems
• 47:59
  like
• 47:59
  a
• 47:59
  pretty
• 48:00
  cool
• 48:00
  guy
• 48:00
  all
• 48:00
  things
• 48:01
  considered.
• 48:02
  Thank
• 48:03
  you
• 48:03
  for
• 48:03
  listening.
• 48:03
  As
• 48:03
  always,
• 48:04
  I
• 48:04
  would
• 48:04
  love
• 48:04
  to
• 48:04
  hear
• 48:04
  your
• 48:05
  thoughts
• 48:05
  on
• 48:05
  her
• 48:06
  and
• 48:06
  thank
• 48:06
  you
• 48:07
  for
• 48:07
  your
• 48:07
  continued
• 48:07
  support
• 48:08
  of
• 48:08
  this
• 48:08
  podcast.
• 48:10
  If
• 48:10
  you
• 48:10
  like
• 48:10
  this
• 48:11
  episode
• 48:11
  on
• 48:11
  her,
• 48:12
  you
• 48:12
  might
• 48:13
  also
• 48:13
  enjoy
• 48:13
  the
• 48:14
  episode
• 48:14
  that
• 48:14
  I
• 48:14
  did,
• 48:15
  episode
• 48:15
  217
• 48:16
  on
• 48:17
  Eternal
• 48:17
  Sunshine
• 48:18
  of
• 48:18
  the
• 48:18
  Spotless
• 48:19
  Mind.
• 48:19
  It
• 48:20
  is
• 48:20
  a
• 48:20
  very
• 48:20
  different
• 48:20
  movie,
• 48:21
  but
• 48:21
  also
• 48:22
  a
• 48:22
  very
• 48:22
  thoughtful
• 48:23
  exploration
• 48:24
  of
• 48:24
  how
• 48:25
  romance
• 48:26
  and
• 48:26
  science
• 48:26
  fiction
• 48:27
  can
• 48:27
  kind
• 48:27
  of
• 48:27
  interject
• 48:28
  with
• 48:28
  each
• 48:28
  other.
• 48:29
  I
• 48:29
  absolutely
• 48:30
  adore
• 48:30
  Eternal
• 48:31
  Sunshine
• 48:31
  of
• 48:31
  the
• 48:31
  Spotless
• 48:32
  Mind.
• 48:32
  If
• 48:32
  you
• 48:32
  have
• 48:33
  not
• 48:33
  seen
• 48:33
  it,
• 48:33
  I
• 48:34
  wholeheartedly
• 48:35
  recommend
• 48:35
  it.
• 48:35
  And
• 48:36
  if
• 48:36
  you
• 48:36
  have
• 48:36
  not
• 48:36
  listened
• 48:36
  to
• 48:36
  the
• 48:37
  episode,
• 48:37
  I'd
• 48:38
  also
• 48:38
  recommend
• 48:39
  that
• 48:39
  too.
• 48:40
  So
• 48:40
  the
• 48:40
  final
• 48:41
  episode
• 48:41
  of
• 48:42
  a
• 48:42
  April
• 48:43
  is
• 48:43
  next.
• 48:44
  And
• 48:44
  what's
• 48:44
  better
• 48:45
  than
• 48:45
  a
• 48:45
  lonely
• 48:46
  man
• 48:46
  relying
• 48:46
  on
• 48:46
  an
• 48:47
  AI
• 48:47
  girlfriend
• 48:48
  relying
• 48:49
  on
• 48:49
  an
• 48:49
  AI
• 48:50
  friend
• 48:50
  for
• 48:50
  a
• 48:51
  lonely
• 48:51
  child
• 48:52
  and
• 48:52
  a
• 48:53
  small
• 48:53
  budgeted
• 48:53
  horror
• 48:54
  comedy
• 48:55
  that
• 48:55
  went
• 48:55
  completely
• 48:56
  viral,
• 48:57
  just
• 48:57
  like
• 48:57
  the
• 48:58
  titular
• 48:58
  character
• 48:59
  would
• 48:59
  have
• 48:59
  wanted.
• 49:00
  It's
• 49:00
  going
• 49:00
  to
• 49:00
  be
• 49:01
  absolute
• 49:01
  carnage
• 49:02
  next
• 49:02
  week
• 49:02
  because
• 49:03
  we
• 49:03
  are
• 49:03
  going
• 49:04
  to
• 49:04
  be
• 49:04
  welcoming
• 49:05
  Megan
• 49:06
  to
• 49:06
  the
• 49:06
  podcast.
• 49:07
  So
• 49:08
  please
• 49:08
  join
• 49:08
  me
• 49:08
  next
• 49:08
  week
• 49:09
  for
• 49:09
  the
• 49:09
  history
• 49:10
  and
• 49:10
  legacy
• 49:11
  of
• 49:11
  Megan.
• 49:12
  Thank
• 49:13
  you
• 49:13
  for
• 49:13
  listening
• 49:13
  to
• 49:13
  Verbal
• 49:14
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• 49:14
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• 49:14
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• 49:15
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• 49:15
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• 49:17
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• 49:17
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• 49:17
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• 49:18
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• 49:18
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• 49:19
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• 49:20
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• 49:20
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• 49:20
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• 49:20
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• 49:21
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• 49:21
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• 49:21
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• 49:21
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• 49:22
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• 49:22
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• 49:23
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• 49:25
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• 49:27
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• 49:27
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• 49:30
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• 49:37
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• 49:43
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• 49:46
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• 49:48
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• 49:50
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• 49:50
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• 49:50
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• 49:51
  I
• 49:51
  genuinely
• 49:52
  love
• 49:52
  doing
• 49:52
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• 49:52
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• 49:53
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• 49:54
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• 49:54
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• 49:54
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• 49:54
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• 49:55
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• 49:55
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• 49:56
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• 49:57
  A
• 49:57
  huge
• 49:58
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• 49:58
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• 49:58
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• 50:02
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• 50:02
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• 50:02
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• 50:03
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  To
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• 50:48
  genuinely
• 50:48
  love
• 50:49
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• 50:55
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• 50:55
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• 50:55
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• 50:55
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• 50:56
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• 50:56
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• 50:57
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• 50:57
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• 50:58
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• 51:00
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• 51:00
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• 52:21
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