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- 0:00Speaker 1: Wow, everybody, welcome to another edition of the NFL Fantasy
- 0:13Speaker 1: Football Show. It's me Your Man, MG Marcus Grant, joined
- 0:16Speaker 1: by Michael Florio and Lakwan Jones. Back half of the
- 0:19Speaker 1: season starts this week. How are we feeling?
- 0:23Speaker 2: I'll be feeling a lot better if my team wins
- 0:26Speaker 2: on Sunday. My team and my fantasy teams. But uh,
- 0:30Speaker 2: it's spooky season right now.
- 0:31Speaker 1: It is spooky season. Lawan, you were asking me what
- 0:34Speaker 1: my favorite scary movie is. I was like, I don't
- 0:36Speaker 1: really watch scary movies, but I have to ask you
- 0:38Speaker 1: what is your favorite scary movie?
- 0:39Speaker 3: You never answered it.
- 0:41Speaker 4: I like the Chucky franchise. I think me and my
- 0:43Speaker 4: wife we like watching that during the Halloween time.
- 0:45Speaker 5: It's funny. And also Charslee rays from Jersey, so you know, I.
- 0:48Speaker 4: Got to represent for the big Jersey folks out there,
- 0:50Speaker 4: fictional and you know, even the horror films getting there.
- 0:53Speaker 2: All right, My biggest thing here is do you watch
- 0:56Speaker 2: more movies than like anyone I know?
- 0:57Speaker 6: Yeah, you don't watch horror movies.
- 0:59Speaker 1: I'm not really a horror movie I will say if
- 1:01Speaker 1: I have a Halloween staple. This is like the nerd
- 1:03Speaker 1: Nerd in Me. The Abominable Doctor fivees nineteen seventy one.
- 1:08Speaker 1: Vincent Price is kind of a campy, kind of horror
- 1:10Speaker 1: comedy sort of thing. It's goofy. It's a deep dive.
- 1:14Speaker 1: It's a deep poll for sure, but it is kind
- 1:16Speaker 1: of my Halloween go too.
- 1:17Speaker 2: If you like goofy Halloween movies. I told you, Thanks
- 1:20Speaker 2: Killing is one of my favorites. And Jason, because.
- 1:23Speaker 6: They're just over the top.
- 1:24Speaker 1: No, Jason, do not watch Jason X.
- 1:27Speaker 6: It is so bad. It's funny, you know.
- 1:30Speaker 1: I'm into that sort of thing. That actually sounds kind
- 1:32Speaker 1: of a my alley all right, also my alleys. But
- 1:35Speaker 1: we on this show, we have your starts and since
- 1:37Speaker 1: for week nine plus we dive into the Sunday and
- 1:40Speaker 1: Monday night games. Plus we're gonna hit you with some
- 1:42Speaker 1: bold predictions for the week. But you can go check out.
- 1:46Speaker 1: Of course, Michael Florio start column every week at NFL
- 1:49Speaker 1: dot com slash Starts City. He puts them together for
- 1:51Speaker 1: you and I'm sure everybody reads them and it's perfectly
- 1:54Speaker 1: okay with what happens, and they never follow up and
- 1:57Speaker 1: come back to him with things that might be wrong.
- 2:01Speaker 1: Let's start with the quote let's start with the quarterback position.
- 2:04Speaker 1: Who are your starts and sits this week?
- 2:06Speaker 2: I know Drake May is reaching obvious territory, but he
- 2:09Speaker 2: has a tough matchup this week. I still think you
- 2:11Speaker 2: start him. Dak Prescott, I think bounces back against the
- 2:14Speaker 2: Cardinals that can't really create pressure. Speaking of not creating pressure,
- 2:17Speaker 2: the forty nine ers do so with the lowest rate.
- 2:19Speaker 2: Their defense is decimated. I think Jackson Dart takes advantage
- 2:22Speaker 2: of that. I think Kyler Murray can have his best
- 2:25Speaker 2: fantasy game of this season against the Cowboys.
- 2:28Speaker 6: I think Caleb Williams.
- 2:29Speaker 2: Just like with Justin Fields last week, you got to
- 2:31Speaker 2: ignore the down performances before and just lock in on
- 2:34Speaker 2: that matchup. I also have Sam Darnold as they start,
- 2:37Speaker 2: and then the sits Bo Nicks.
- 2:39Speaker 6: That's a little bit of a spicy one, but I
- 2:41Speaker 6: do not like the matchup at all.
- 2:43Speaker 2: Jordan Love tough matchup, and I just think this is
- 2:47Speaker 2: a game where it's not gonna be like last week
- 2:49Speaker 2: where he has to throw as much as he did.
- 2:51Speaker 6: CJ.
- 2:52Speaker 2: Stroud I want absolutely no part of in this matchup
- 2:54Speaker 2: against the Broncos. Aaron Rodgers is very touchdown reliant right now.
- 2:59Speaker 2: I don't know if you can bank on that against
- 3:00Speaker 2: the Colts. And then I know people are excited that
- 3:02Speaker 2: JJ's back, but that's a Viking.
- 3:04Speaker 6: Don't make it a fantasy football thing.
- 3:06Speaker 1: All right, So there you go fast. Let's just start
- 3:09Speaker 1: into some of these guys individually. Lakwan, I mean Sam
- 3:12Speaker 1: Donald very quietly putting together a nice fantasy season up
- 3:16Speaker 1: there in Seattle.
- 3:17Speaker 4: No, I really love everything that I've seen from Sam Donald.
- 3:20Speaker 4: Then he is strapped to one of the best wide
- 3:22Speaker 4: receivers in the NFL right now. This is the wide
- 3:24Speaker 4: receiver one right now in the NFL, and Jackson Smith
- 3:27Speaker 4: and the Jigmo. And we've seen Sam Donald fight his
- 3:29Speaker 4: way out of tough matchups and be able to go
- 3:31Speaker 4: out there and put serviceful fantasy points on the board.
- 3:34Speaker 4: So I look at this Washington Commander's defense. In the
- 3:37Speaker 4: last three games, they have allowed three quarterbacks to put
- 3:40Speaker 4: up over nineteen plus fantasy points. These guys have found
- 3:43Speaker 4: the end zone twice or maybe even three times in
- 3:45Speaker 4: the last three games against the Commanders. So I think
- 3:48Speaker 4: Sam Donald's going to join that party and possibly put
- 3:50Speaker 4: up three tuddies in this game.
- 3:52Speaker 6: Jsen best receiver in the NFC West.
- 3:54Speaker 5: You heard it from Lakwan, I mean, oh my god.
- 3:57Speaker 5: First of all, this is too early, trying to hit
- 4:00Speaker 5: me crashing bro.
- 4:03Speaker 1: Right now. Don't you ever do that again? Oh man,
- 4:07Speaker 1: that would have been great, Just a huge crash out
- 4:09Speaker 1: in the first block show.
- 4:12Speaker 5: It's insane, too early, man, say this for later.
- 4:15Speaker 1: On the flip side of things, CJ. Stroud had a
- 4:17Speaker 1: good game last week against a forty nine er team
- 4:19Speaker 1: that has the same level of pass rush as the
- 4:22Speaker 1: three of us here combined. The odds though Lakwan that
- 4:26Speaker 1: he can do it again against a Denver team that
- 4:29Speaker 1: is generally living in the.
- 4:30Speaker 4: Backfield, even with a banged up Pat Sartin. Like, I
- 4:34Speaker 4: don't feel comfortable with CJ. Stroud because it's kind of
- 4:37Speaker 4: unfortunate that we can predict in the games that we
- 4:39Speaker 4: shouldn't be starting him like this. First of all, this
- 4:41Speaker 4: guy's owned for this season when pressured over thirty percent
- 4:44Speaker 4: on his dropbacks. I mean, when we look at Denver
- 4:47Speaker 4: right now, at the top of the league. First, when
- 4:49Speaker 4: it comes to QB pressures, they have a disturbing forty
- 4:52Speaker 4: five percent with QB pressure rate. So I am not
- 4:55Speaker 4: starting CJ. Stroud, especially with a banged up Nico. I'm
- 4:58Speaker 4: not relying on the young guys in Higgins and Jalen
- 5:00Speaker 4: Nole to kind of step up and save CJ. Strout
- 5:03Speaker 4: to be fantasy relevant. But when we look at the
- 5:05Speaker 4: games where he's pressured over thirty percent, he has less
- 5:08Speaker 4: than fourteen Fantasy points.
- 5:09Speaker 6: That is real nasty work.
- 5:12Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, look, this Texans offense generally speaking, has
- 5:15Speaker 1: been pretty awful and it's been hard to really trust
- 5:18Speaker 1: any of those guys you mentioned Nic Nico Collins banged up,
- 5:21Speaker 1: the offensive line is bad. This feels like a week
- 5:23Speaker 1: that you're not If you got Cia Shroud blow up
- 5:25Speaker 1: last week, good on you. I wouldn't count on it
- 5:28Speaker 1: happening again this week. Turn our attention to the running
- 5:31Speaker 1: back position, Florium, Who do you like in Week nine?
- 5:33Speaker 1: Who do you not like?
- 5:34Speaker 6: This week?
- 5:35Speaker 2: Jonder Swift has just been going off the last month.
- 5:37Speaker 2: He is a must start option this week against the Bengals.
- 5:41Speaker 2: I feel like Kimani Vedell also a must start option
- 5:44Speaker 2: this week and a fantastic matchup against the Titans.
- 5:48Speaker 6: Chase Brown I like a lot more if Joe Flacco.
- 5:50Speaker 2: Is out there, But either way, he's been running a
- 5:52Speaker 2: lot better as of late, and it's a favorable matchup
- 5:54Speaker 2: against the Bears, who don't really make contact anywhere near
- 5:59Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage on running backs. David Montgomery just
- 6:01Speaker 2: because the Vikings have been ran on the second highest
- 6:04Speaker 2: rate in the NFL.
- 6:06Speaker 6: And then Bam Knight.
- 6:07Speaker 2: It might only be a one week thing with Trey
- 6:08Speaker 2: Benson nearing a return, but it's a fantastic matchup and
- 6:11Speaker 2: he is the lead back.
- 6:13Speaker 6: And then the sis the common theme this week.
- 6:15Speaker 2: I don't love the Broncos in this matchup against the Texans,
- 6:18Speaker 2: and then includes JK. Dobbins who has RJ. Harvey stealing
- 6:21Speaker 2: the touchdowns. Now Alvin Kamara, I part of it is
- 6:25Speaker 2: the Saints offense.
- 6:26Speaker 6: I think.
- 6:26Speaker 2: I think part of it is also just declined on
- 6:28Speaker 2: his part. And the Rams are an extremely tough matchup.
- 6:31Speaker 2: Kenneth Walker and Zach Sharbonay continue to eat off each
- 6:34Speaker 2: other's plates and make each other almost where you don't
- 6:36Speaker 2: want to start either of them. Bill Merritt, you know
- 6:40Speaker 2: the toughest matchup I would say for a your runner.
- 6:43Speaker 6: The Seahawks really show.
- 6:44Speaker 2: Against pass catching backs, but that's not Bill. And then
- 6:46Speaker 2: Chewba Hubbard. If you're starting anyone in this tough matchup,
- 6:49Speaker 2: it's Rico.
- 6:50Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, the Tuba Hubbard. I am completely out
- 6:54Speaker 1: on this week. I'm not even super excited about Rico
- 6:57Speaker 1: Dowin for sure. I want to ask you though about
- 6:59Speaker 1: Chase Brown Laqwal because he liked the rest of the
- 7:02Speaker 1: Bengals skill position players have gotten a boost from having
- 7:05Speaker 1: Joe Flacco in the lineup. Flaco right now kind of
- 7:08Speaker 1: iffy for this week because he's dealing with some injuries.
- 7:11Speaker 1: If Flacco can't go, if they have to go back
- 7:13Speaker 1: to Jake Browning, do we feel okay with Chase.
- 7:16Speaker 4: Brown No, I'm a little hesitant. This is where I
- 7:20Speaker 4: start looking at my roster. This is where I start
- 7:22Speaker 4: looking down the line. If I can get somebody in there.
- 7:25Speaker 4: If Joe Flacco is out with the show the injury,
- 7:27Speaker 4: it's definitely gonna be night and day of how this
- 7:29Speaker 4: offense is operating. Because under Jake Browning, we've seen this
- 7:33Speaker 4: sample side. If we've seen what defenses are doing to
- 7:35Speaker 4: Jake Browning, it's a bunch of turnovers and the run
- 7:37Speaker 4: game suffers. Where I think Chase Brown becomes one of
- 7:40Speaker 4: those sketchy starts, spooky starts. We should say this week
- 7:44Speaker 4: being that if it's going to be Jake browning, I'm
- 7:46Speaker 4: not gonna feel confident of Chase Brown having that high scene.
- 7:49Speaker 5: And like how we've seen in the past couple of.
- 7:51Speaker 4: Weeks, because we'd said to the fantasy streets, hey, if
- 7:53Speaker 4: Joe Flacco's the starter, therefore, this schedule opens up a
- 7:56Speaker 4: little bit on the ground for Chase Brown. But when
- 7:58Speaker 4: you change that factor of it, it makes me really
- 8:01Speaker 4: really worried about having Chase Brown having a safe floor.
- 8:03Speaker 1: I do love Chase Brown for the rest of the season, though,
- 8:06Speaker 1: because the schedule is really really friendly and I do
- 8:08Speaker 1: like what Joe Flacco has meant for this offense. Plus
- 8:11Speaker 1: there is a chance Joe Burrow could be back. But
- 8:14Speaker 1: if there's no Flacco this week, I'm not super excited
- 8:18Speaker 1: about Chase Brown. The other side, you heard Florida talk
- 8:22Speaker 1: about Rico Dowdo maybe a go for the Panthers this week.
- 8:26Speaker 1: We santed to talk about earlier in the Weeklakwan but
- 8:27Speaker 1: Chewba Hubbard definitely a sit. I'm not saying he's a drop,
- 8:31Speaker 1: but he's getting hard to start him right now.
- 8:33Speaker 4: Yeah, he's going to be collecting us on a lot
- 8:35Speaker 4: of people's benches for these next couple of weeks. And
- 8:38Speaker 4: it's understandable because again we paid draft investment for Chewba Hubbard.
- 8:41Speaker 4: But unfortunately, I want to keep echoing this. This ain't
- 8:44Speaker 4: the first time this guy has lost his job. But
- 8:46Speaker 4: I will of course handcuff him if he has that
- 8:49Speaker 4: matchup base in certain weeks, I know buys are still
- 8:52Speaker 4: going to be a coming up and on the way,
- 8:54Speaker 4: and you're gonna have to slide him into that flex position.
- 8:57Speaker 4: It's just more of like now your rostering guy that's
- 8:59Speaker 4: still behind another guy that does the job a lot
- 9:02Speaker 4: better than what he's supposed to do as the paid
- 9:05Speaker 4: running back. So it's one of those things. It's like
- 9:07Speaker 4: he's going to collect us. Just have your expectations in
- 9:09Speaker 4: order when you have to look for him. If you
- 9:11Speaker 4: can trade him and add him in a package to
- 9:13Speaker 4: ship him off, that's probably plan A to do right now,
- 9:17Speaker 4: because I see no value in holding on to him
- 9:20Speaker 4: to have stand alone, stand alone fantasy value.
- 9:23Speaker 1: I mean, where are we on the Panthers offense generally?
- 9:25Speaker 1: Because Bryce s has been okay, Terorer McMillan's having a
- 9:28Speaker 1: good season. They're not necessarily like deep in fantasy, but
- 9:32Speaker 1: they've been better I think than we expected.
- 9:34Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's two players though that you started.
- 9:37Speaker 2: It's McMillan and en Rico Dubdell, and that's kind of
- 9:39Speaker 2: it for me. Bryce Young you could stream in the
- 9:42Speaker 2: right matchups, but he's far from a guy that you
- 9:44Speaker 2: play every single week and then like Exavier to get
- 9:48Speaker 2: Jalen Kocher. We want these guys to be things, but
- 9:51Speaker 2: until they become consistent. We've seen flashes out of these guys.
- 9:55Speaker 2: We know the capability and the talent they have, but
- 9:58Speaker 2: we need this offense to become more consistent before we
- 10:00Speaker 2: could start talking about more than just these two guys
- 10:03Speaker 2: as like every week starders.
- 10:04Speaker 1: In my opinion, I think that's fair, but that's been
- 10:06Speaker 1: kind of nice to see the progress a little bit
- 10:08Speaker 1: step by step, even if it's not necessarily making these
- 10:11Speaker 1: guys fantasy relevant. There's things happening at heels. It seems
- 10:14Speaker 1: like in Carolina looking at some of the Week nine games,
- 10:18Speaker 1: will take a look at Sunday Night Football. At the
- 10:20Speaker 1: first touchdown odds for Sunday Night Football between the Seahawks
- 10:24Speaker 1: and the commanders Jackson Smith and Jigba the best wide
- 10:28Speaker 1: receiver in the NSC. I knew it was coming as
- 10:33Speaker 1: the leader there on the the category by Zach Charbonay,
- 10:37Speaker 1: then Kenneth Walker, you got Jacory Krosskey Merritts behind him,
- 10:41Speaker 1: and then Debo coming in there. At the end, of course,
- 10:45Speaker 1: we already know that Terry McLaurin has been ruled out.
- 10:48Speaker 1: It does look promising for Jad and Daniels to be
- 10:50Speaker 1: available this week, but waiting for official word at least.
- 10:53Speaker 3: As the time of us doing this show.
- 10:56Speaker 1: But looking at this game specifically, Florio jays And has
- 11:00Speaker 1: been amazing so far this year. It's a good matchup
- 11:03Speaker 1: on paper though for the Seattle wideouts. Can you trust
- 11:06Speaker 1: any of their pass catchers though after Smith and Jigbo, I.
- 11:09Speaker 2: Don't think so, Like I wouldn't want to, maybe if
- 11:11Speaker 2: you're in a pinch or something like that. But we've
- 11:13Speaker 2: seen stretches this year where Cooper Cups flashed a couple
- 11:16Speaker 2: of games where he looks good. We've seen there was
- 11:20Speaker 2: a couple of weeks where Elijah Royal was like the
- 11:23Speaker 2: number two target, then aj Barner. So I think everything
- 11:28Speaker 2: is hyper focused and funneled through JSN, and after that
- 11:32Speaker 2: it kind of varies week to week, and I think
- 11:34Speaker 2: Darnold kind of just goes to whoever's open after that.
- 11:38Speaker 2: To me, it's kind of there's no one on this
- 11:41Speaker 2: team besides JSN, and that includes the running backs that
- 11:44Speaker 2: I think are anywhere close to a must start each week.
- 11:46Speaker 1: That's sort of fair. I envision a world Lakwan where
- 11:49Speaker 1: Cooper Cup has some sleeper vibes this week?
- 11:52Speaker 6: Are you on board with that?
- 11:54Speaker 5: Is he playing?
- 11:55Speaker 1: Like?
- 11:55Speaker 5: Is he on the Seahawks still?
- 11:57Speaker 4: Because what production has he done to beget in his
- 12:00Speaker 4: said on a national broadcast fantasy network right now to
- 12:03Speaker 4: be talking about Cooper Cup.
- 12:05Speaker 5: I mean, what has he done?
- 12:07Speaker 6: Is that two good games?
- 12:07Speaker 1: He's had a couple of good games.
- 12:10Speaker 4: I'm sleep I'm sorry I him because because he's not
- 12:14Speaker 4: fantasy relevant whatsoever. Like I'm not trying to be mean,
- 12:16Speaker 4: like Cooper Cup has done nothing this season for fantasy managers.
- 12:19Speaker 4: I don't know one person who's rolled him out there
- 12:21Speaker 4: in starting lineups and said, yeah, I feel confident about
- 12:24Speaker 4: winning this week.
- 12:25Speaker 2: Well, the former best NFC West wide receiver now teaming
- 12:29Speaker 2: up with the current best NFCA.
- 12:30Speaker 1: I mean just forming like Voltron up there in the
- 12:34Speaker 1: Pacific Northwest.
- 12:35Speaker 6: Uh.
- 12:36Speaker 1: Wait, come back. I have a real question to ask you. Now,
- 12:39Speaker 1: you gotta come back and sit down for real, for real.
- 12:44Speaker 1: Though we were super excited about Bill, you know, Jacory
- 12:47Speaker 1: Krosky Marrit had a couple of weeks where he really
- 12:49Speaker 1: was popping in that offense, the last couple of weeks
- 12:52Speaker 1: have not been particularly great for him. Seattle's defense has
- 12:55Speaker 1: been better than average. I would say, are you still
- 12:58Speaker 1: comfortable starting jays see him this week?
- 13:02Speaker 6: No?
- 13:02Speaker 4: And it makes it harder with no jds. So it's
- 13:05Speaker 4: like one of the situations where we know Bill could
- 13:08Speaker 4: be a great player, Like we see these highlights. We
- 13:10Speaker 4: see he's able to cut outside really well in between
- 13:12Speaker 4: the tackles, like he has all the talent packed with him,
- 13:15Speaker 4: And I feel like I don't want to label him
- 13:17Speaker 4: this type, but it feels like a p Checko situation,
- 13:20Speaker 4: like he's great on the ground, but he needs to
- 13:21Speaker 4: be in scoring opportunities to rack up these fantasy points,
- 13:24Speaker 4: like having nine fantasy points per game for a guy
- 13:27Speaker 4: that we know is good on an offense that should
- 13:29Speaker 4: be in striking distance more often than not, but dealing
- 13:32Speaker 4: with injuries is what's hindering me to have that trust
- 13:35Speaker 4: in Bill, to have that ability to give back at
- 13:38Speaker 4: least ORB two flex type of numbers on a week
- 13:40Speaker 4: to week basis. But right now we're not sitting in
- 13:43Speaker 4: a situation like that right now. With JCM, Yeah, I
- 13:47Speaker 4: mean it was.
- 13:48Speaker 1: I think there'll be better weeks for him coming, but
- 13:51Speaker 1: it seems like everybody's kind of clued into what he
- 13:53Speaker 1: is doing.
- 13:55Speaker 6: You know.
- 13:55Speaker 1: Maybe it also would help having a healthy Jaden Daniels
- 13:58Speaker 1: kind of having his offense back in full, but it
- 14:00Speaker 1: hasn't quite worked out. We take it a look at
- 14:03Speaker 1: the Monday Night football game plus some more starts and
- 14:05Speaker 1: since we dive into wide receivers and tight ends, that's
- 14:08Speaker 1: coming up after the break here on the NFL Fantasy
- 14:10Speaker 1: Football show, Look at You Monday Night Football. It is
- 14:17Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals heading to Dallas to take on the Cowboys.
- 14:20Speaker 1: You can see that game, of course on ESPEN eight
- 14:23Speaker 1: fifteen pm Eastern florio Is this a Kyler Murray week?
- 14:28Speaker 6: It has to be right.
- 14:29Speaker 2: If it's not this week, then when is it. The
- 14:31Speaker 2: Cowboys are the best matchup a quarterback could have in
- 14:36Speaker 2: fantasy this season they've allowed the most fantasy points, They've
- 14:39Speaker 2: allowed the most passing yards, they've allowed the most touchdowns
- 14:43Speaker 2: passing touchdowns, and the most rushing yards two quarterbacks and
- 14:48Speaker 2: the second most rushing touchdowns.
- 14:50Speaker 6: Like, if this is not a Kyler Murray week, we
- 14:53Speaker 6: need to.
- 14:53Speaker 2: Get Jacoby Brissaid in here or something like that, because
- 14:56Speaker 2: if it doesn't happen now, then when is it going to.
- 14:58Speaker 1: I mean, Kyler this year has been functionally unstartable just
- 15:03Speaker 1: because the floor is fourteen, the ceiling is eighteen. Like
- 15:09Speaker 1: Kyler Murray lives in a tiny house. And that's not
- 15:11Speaker 1: a comment on his stature, Like he just lives the
- 15:13Speaker 1: floor the ceiling are really close together. With Kyler Murray,
- 15:16Speaker 1: it just makes him hard to start.
- 15:17Speaker 2: If he doesn't get twenty points this week, I think
- 15:20Speaker 2: you could just drop Kyler Murray probably because it's not
- 15:22Speaker 2: gonna get much better than this.
- 15:23Speaker 1: Yeah, Lakwan. Last week, Jake Ferguson had these same number
- 15:26Speaker 1: of catches as all three of us combined. Here is
- 15:29Speaker 1: this a bounce back.
- 15:30Speaker 6: Week for him?
- 15:32Speaker 1: It has to be.
- 15:32Speaker 4: I think that, you know, looking at last week was
- 15:35Speaker 4: kind of like an outlier week. We know Jake Ferguson
- 15:37Speaker 4: is a function of that Cowboys offense. This is something
- 15:40Speaker 4: that I've been saying since the summer. He's been my
- 15:43Speaker 4: must draft tight end because he is part of the
- 15:46Speaker 4: function of the CD Lamb and George Pickens of this
- 15:49Speaker 4: offense with the great Javonte Williams. Right now, I think
- 15:52Speaker 4: this week against the Cardinals, there's some wiggle room for
- 15:54Speaker 4: him to have some production there top of the table
- 15:57Speaker 4: when it comes to a completion percentage allowed at the
- 16:00Speaker 4: tight end position and also completions period. So there's obviously
- 16:03Speaker 4: some upside there for Jake Ferguson to find some work,
- 16:06Speaker 4: and I think this would be a good week for
- 16:07Speaker 4: him to bounce back at least to be a tight
- 16:09Speaker 4: end one.
- 16:10Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been telling people to start him. If if
- 16:12Speaker 1: you had him last week and you got the zero,
- 16:14Speaker 1: I understand you're upset. It was just a bump. It's
- 16:18Speaker 1: just a speed bump, man, like it's.
- 16:19Speaker 5: Gonna get better for play us mess up.
- 16:22Speaker 6: I do. I agree with everything you guys are saying.
- 16:25Speaker 2: I also think it is a cell high opportunity because
- 16:28Speaker 2: he's been the clearcut third target since CD Lamb has
- 16:31Speaker 2: been back, so like he was he's not going to
- 16:33Speaker 2: be the tight end one like he was the first
- 16:35Speaker 2: seven weeks of the season the rest of the way.
- 16:37Speaker 1: In my opinion, I think that's fair. I think that's fair.
- 16:39Speaker 1: You can probably get a lot for him because people
- 16:40Speaker 1: need tight end help at this point. We'll get to
- 16:43Speaker 1: tight ends in just a little bit. We get back
- 16:45Speaker 1: to our starts. And since we're looking at wide receiver
- 16:48Speaker 1: in the Florida who do you like at the wide
- 16:50Speaker 1: receiver position?
- 16:51Speaker 2: I like the Jags guys, because the Raiders are in
- 16:53Speaker 2: the top four not only in fantasy points allowed to
- 16:55Speaker 2: wide receivers, but specifically in yards to out wide wide receivers.
- 16:59Speaker 6: A Ladd McConkie.
- 17:00Speaker 2: He has been giving Wi Just Chargers wide receiver one
- 17:03Speaker 2: fantasy wide receiver one production for the last month. The
- 17:06Speaker 2: Titans play a lot of his own coverage. Marvin Harrison Junior,
- 17:09Speaker 2: Just like what Kyler Murray. If it's not this week.
- 17:12Speaker 6: When is it?
- 17:12Speaker 2: If you're not starting him against the Dallas Cowboys, why
- 17:15Speaker 2: are you rostering him? Roma dunsays, and must play in
- 17:18Speaker 2: this one against the Bengals. For me and Wandel Robinson,
- 17:20Speaker 2: no team allows more production to slot receivers than the
- 17:23Speaker 2: forty nine ers and then the Sids Stefan Diggs the
- 17:26Speaker 2: tough matchup against the Falcons, and the Patriots are just
- 17:28Speaker 2: spreading the ball and the production around at such a
- 17:31Speaker 2: high rate. Jamison Williams watch this will be the week
- 17:34Speaker 2: he catches like one long touchdown, but the volume just
- 17:37Speaker 2: hasn't gone his way and the vikings outside of the
- 17:40Speaker 2: Eagles game have.
- 17:41Speaker 6: Been very tough against wide receivers. Matthew Golden.
- 17:43Speaker 2: I think we're getting to a point where Christian Watson
- 17:46Speaker 2: could surpass him in the routes and target pecking order.
- 17:50Speaker 6: Jacoby Myers.
- 17:50Speaker 2: I want no part of any of the Raiders if
- 17:53Speaker 2: it's not Brock Bowers or Jacoby Meyer, h Ashian Genty
- 17:56Speaker 2: and then key On Coleman. It pains me to say,
- 17:58Speaker 2: but he's not getting used properly and the Chiefs are
- 18:01Speaker 2: such a tough matchup.
- 18:02Speaker 1: Yeah, Chiefs tough matchup there, So Kean Coleman just at
- 18:05Speaker 1: this point I can advt he's not been the guy
- 18:07Speaker 1: that I thought he would be coming into the season.
- 18:09Speaker 1: Let's go back to one Dale Robinson though, because it
- 18:12Speaker 1: is a good matchup Mkwan, but also Wandea Robinson really
- 18:16Speaker 1: having a nice season for the Giants.
- 18:18Speaker 4: No, for real, We've been seeing a lot of Wandall
- 18:21Speaker 4: Robinson used downfield, which we love that his A die
- 18:23Speaker 4: was able to increase and actually double from what it
- 18:26Speaker 4: was last year. But I got to pump the brakes
- 18:28Speaker 4: this week. Actually, if I have other options that have
- 18:30Speaker 4: safer floors, I'll probably pivot that way because there's one
- 18:33Speaker 4: thing about the forty winers, they always find a way.
- 18:36Speaker 4: They find a way to get the job done. And
- 18:38Speaker 4: I know it's a weak point where they're going to
- 18:40Speaker 4: be operating following him in the slot. But in the
- 18:42Speaker 4: games that we've seen dark as the starter, Wando Robson
- 18:46Speaker 4: hasn't been like one of the big fantasy assets when
- 18:49Speaker 4: you look at the games that he popped off Darius
- 18:52Speaker 4: Slayton wasn't playing. But then when Darius Slayton comes back
- 18:54Speaker 4: into the picture, we see a season low last week
- 18:57Speaker 4: in his targets per route run who has and star attention,
- 19:01Speaker 4: And I think, honestly, you still get off with having
- 19:04Speaker 4: him in the flex this week, but my expectations are
- 19:06Speaker 4: kind of low. If I have better options for higher ceilings.
- 19:09Speaker 1: This week, I'm looking forward to next year. I know
- 19:12Speaker 1: we talked about Molak Neighbors earlier this week, Floria, but
- 19:16Speaker 1: Wandel Robinson, he might be Are we gonna overlook him?
- 19:20Speaker 1: I guess is the question, you know, after what he
- 19:22Speaker 1: did this year.
- 19:22Speaker 2: I think it's very likely the Giants either draft or
- 19:26Speaker 2: sign another out wide wide receiver. And if that is
- 19:29Speaker 2: the case, then it dings Wandell because volume is what
- 19:32Speaker 2: like outside of that game against the Cowboys, when Neighbors
- 19:35Speaker 2: was out there, he was just all floor, you know,
- 19:38Speaker 2: So now we're getting more upside with him as the
- 19:40Speaker 2: primary target.
- 19:41Speaker 6: But I do think the Giants had on.
- 19:43Speaker 1: The said side of things, Jamison Williams. He was a
- 19:46Speaker 1: guy that I was hyping up coming into this season.
- 19:48Speaker 1: It made me feel a little bit better, Lakwan to
- 19:49Speaker 1: see John Morton basically come out and say we admit
- 19:52Speaker 1: that we have failed Jamison Williams and trying to get
- 19:54Speaker 1: him the ball. So I just want to say that
- 19:57Speaker 1: I was right. It's the lion too or wrong? Sure, sure, sorry,
- 20:02Speaker 1: and I'll keep fighting that fight for Greg Dorts.
- 20:04Speaker 5: But anyway, at the end of the day.
- 20:07Speaker 4: You love that John Morton is going out there taking accountability,
- 20:10Speaker 4: saying hey, I need to do a better job and
- 20:11Speaker 4: get him more involved, because it's been some weeks since
- 20:14Speaker 4: we've seen James and Williamson really cash in to hit
- 20:17Speaker 4: his high ceiling. The last time he had over one
- 20:19Speaker 4: hundred yards was in week two and that was the
- 20:21Speaker 4: statement game. That was the prove it game. That was
- 20:23Speaker 4: the game like, hey, you guys don't need the point
- 20:25Speaker 4: to our freaking franchise low of yards per play. In
- 20:29Speaker 4: week one, they got it together. That was the bounce
- 20:31Speaker 4: back game to where after that we haven't seen Jamo
- 20:34Speaker 4: really utilize at his peak. So hopefully, hopefully this week
- 20:38Speaker 4: when we sit him, he goes off and shows some
- 20:40Speaker 4: life and this will be the week that he shows
- 20:42Speaker 4: momentum that they can build on. After John Morton took
- 20:45Speaker 4: some accountability.
- 20:46Speaker 1: Yeah, I just want to say that I knew what
- 20:48Speaker 1: was happening and I'm putting this all in John Morton's
- 20:51Speaker 1: lap for my take this and good.
- 20:54Speaker 4: I'm fighting the good fight for Greg Dorts. I'm blaming
- 20:56Speaker 4: Drew Petson. It's all good. I know Greg dortsch can ball.
- 21:00Speaker 1: It had nothing to do with us. It was completely
- 21:02Speaker 1: the coaching that let us down. As as what happened there. Yes,
- 21:05Speaker 1: let's move over to the Florida Who do you like?
- 21:08Speaker 1: Who do you not like?
- 21:08Speaker 3: This week?
- 21:09Speaker 2: Tyler Warren is a must start and I just included
- 21:12Speaker 2: him because he's coming off of a down week. Aroande
- 21:14Speaker 2: Gatson the second. Obviously, what he's been doing has been
- 21:17Speaker 2: tight end one production. But the Titans play zone coverage
- 21:21Speaker 2: close to eighty percent of the time, and in the
- 21:23Speaker 2: last month, Gatson has almost double the amount of yards
- 21:26Speaker 2: against zone. It's any other Charger player. Jake Ferguson, We've
- 21:29Speaker 2: already spoke about him. Kyle Pitt Senior three weeks in
- 21:32Speaker 2: a row making it into the start side of stardom,
- 21:34Speaker 2: Sitdham in a really good matchup against the Patriots, and
- 21:37Speaker 2: then the six dalton Kin kid. He has played the
- 21:40Speaker 2: Chiefs three times, never top fifty yards, never scored a touchdown,
- 21:43Speaker 2: never reached ten fantasy points, and the Chiefs have been
- 21:46Speaker 2: even better against tight ends than they have in the past.
- 21:48Speaker 2: Evan Ingram, it's just not happening right now, and the
- 21:52Speaker 2: Texans are a really tough matchup. Hunter Henry since week four,
- 21:57Speaker 2: I think it is, he's averaging like less than four
- 21:59Speaker 2: targets per game.
- 22:00Speaker 6: And TJ.
- 22:00Speaker 2: Hawkinson again another player that is just simply not happening
- 22:04Speaker 2: for rookie quarterback or second year but he's played eight quarters,
- 22:07Speaker 2: he's taken over again, tough matchup, all of that. Like,
- 22:10Speaker 2: I think Justin Jefferson is the only vicing you can
- 22:12Speaker 2: start with confidence.
- 22:13Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's fine to call it JJ McCarthy
- 22:15Speaker 1: a rookie. I know technically he's not, but really he is.
- 22:18Speaker 1: At this most rookies have.
- 22:19Speaker 6: Played more football than j McCarthy.
- 22:22Speaker 1: That's that is not a lie. Ronde Gatston Lakwan, he
- 22:28Speaker 1: is the tight end hero that we didn't know we wanted,
- 22:31Speaker 1: but we absolutely deserve.
- 22:34Speaker 5: Yes, a couple of things.
- 22:35Speaker 4: I'm glad I didn't make the deal that I would
- 22:37Speaker 4: dye my hair blind of Arondez gass a top five
- 22:40Speaker 4: tight end this season, because I've been screaming this guy's
- 22:42Speaker 4: name since he's been drafted. So I think at the
- 22:44Speaker 4: end of the day, mister Rondez Gassen Senior, og tap
- 22:48Speaker 4: in with the fantasy streets, bless us with another week
- 22:50Speaker 4: that you bench your own son and don't listen to
- 22:53Speaker 4: the critics saying.
- 22:54Speaker 1: How can he bench his own son?
- 22:56Speaker 4: Because fantasy is first, he's trying to stack the wings
- 22:59Speaker 4: playoffs around the corner. Trade deadlines are closing up. Mironde
- 23:03Speaker 4: Gaskins needs to be a start for everybody else, but
- 23:06Speaker 4: a sit when it comes to his father.
- 23:09Speaker 2: All right, but I will say you did say if
- 23:13Speaker 2: Harold's Fannon Junior is a top five tight end, you will.
- 23:16Speaker 5: Go full blown this time.
- 23:17Speaker 6: He is seventeen points.
- 23:18Speaker 2: He's the tight end seven and he is seventeen points
- 23:21Speaker 2: away from the top five.
- 23:23Speaker 1: I was hoping Florio forgot about this.
- 23:26Speaker 2: You the one to bring the pub the blonde thing,
- 23:31Speaker 2: and then I was like, wait, we have Harold Bannon.
- 23:35Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Here the good news is they're gonna
- 23:37Speaker 1: buy this week, so he in theory could follow a
- 23:39Speaker 1: couple of spots back. Please, And you gotta hope that
- 23:42Speaker 1: Dylan gab you not trade David Nijoku. Don't trade Dan Joku.
- 23:46Speaker 1: You hope that Dylan Gabriel doesn't just get hot or
- 23:48Speaker 1: something like that down the shape T J. Hawkinson. You
- 23:52Speaker 1: were not on the TJ. Hawkinson trained Florio.
- 23:54Speaker 3: And I were.
- 23:56Speaker 4: So would you like to take a victory lap on? Yes,
- 23:59Speaker 4: I would like to take a victory left. But I
- 24:00Speaker 4: will also say this, though, right, you guys are far
- 24:03Speaker 4: off we didn't. We couldn't really see the entire board
- 24:06Speaker 4: of JJ McCarthy getting injured. But I think my ticket
- 24:10Speaker 4: to the TJ. Hockinson Show, to the hype train, it's over.
- 24:14Speaker 4: I don't roster him anywhere much more. I've traded him.
- 24:18Speaker 6: He is on.
- 24:18Speaker 4: Collection of dust and other leagues. But shout out to
- 24:21Speaker 4: Ronde Gaston's dad, I mean senior. He's been starting TJ.
- 24:24Speaker 4: Hockinson over his son. So I think honestly he's doing
- 24:27Speaker 4: bare minimum to stay in that slot, to kind of
- 24:30Speaker 4: have his dad to be able to stack these wins.
- 24:32Speaker 4: So it's kind of weird and ironic. You know, he
- 24:34Speaker 4: bought tickets to that TJ. Howkinson show, and I can't
- 24:37Speaker 4: believe that he's a happy customer either.
- 24:39Speaker 1: I mean, it's gonna make Thanksgiving kind of awkward at
- 24:41Speaker 1: the at the Gaston household.
- 24:43Speaker 6: That's all I'm gonna say about that. All right.
- 24:46Speaker 1: Anyway, if you want more of the starts and sich,
- 24:47Speaker 1: you can go to the NFL dot com slash start
- 24:49Speaker 1: and Sit and get some in depth analysis on every
- 24:52Speaker 1: single one of the guys that we mentioned here and
- 24:54Speaker 1: maybe even a few more. So get yourself the biggest
- 24:57Speaker 1: Cuple forred Shotta you can find we got our spicy
- 24:59Speaker 1: hot takes.
- 24:59Speaker 6: For week nine.
- 25:00Speaker 1: Let's probably have come up with something more Halloween theme,
- 25:03Speaker 1: like the Scary Good Predictions for Week nine or something
- 25:06Speaker 1: like that.
- 25:06Speaker 6: I liked your original prediction better than the one I'm
- 25:08Speaker 6: seeing on the run down.
- 25:09Speaker 1: Oh well yeah, I changed it up. No, I'm gonna
- 25:14Speaker 1: tell you go back and look at the history on
- 25:15Speaker 1: the documentary hit Undoe. I'm gonn look at the history
- 25:18Speaker 1: on this one.
- 25:19Speaker 6: The player that Lakwan usually does not like. That's why
- 25:22Speaker 6: I was so.
- 25:22Speaker 1: Excited for him. I will let you go with this
- 25:24Speaker 1: one that you have right now.
- 25:27Speaker 4: Listen, I will disclose that d end of who it was.
- 25:30Speaker 4: But I have Justin Jefferson this week going for three touchdowns. Now, listen,
- 25:35Speaker 4: JJ McCarthy is the only reason why Justin Jefferson has
- 25:39Speaker 4: one touchdown. And Florio spoke about and I want to
- 25:41Speaker 4: echo this in previous parts of how Justin Jefferson can
- 25:45Speaker 4: stack those touchdowns. He can end up having three in
- 25:48Speaker 4: this game two in the next game, like he is
- 25:50Speaker 4: able to stack touchdowns when he has the ability. Half
- 25:53Speaker 4: of his end zone and red zone targets have come
- 25:55Speaker 4: from JJ McCarty Carson wentz, what were you looking at
- 25:58Speaker 4: when it came to strike distance? It's kind of crazy
- 26:01Speaker 4: to see that. But now with JJ coming in and
- 26:03Speaker 4: hopefully he understands this, assignmon get the ball to eighteen
- 26:07Speaker 4: in the end zone.
- 26:08Speaker 1: All right, So justin Jefferson going big, we certainly all
- 26:12Speaker 1: like that. It's Floria.
- 26:13Speaker 6: What do you have one that you're gonna like?
- 26:15Speaker 2: And I don't know if Lakwan will, but I think
- 26:18Speaker 2: CMC has maybe his best game of the year. I
- 26:21Speaker 2: think two hundred yards and two touchdowns. Because you look
- 26:24Speaker 2: at the New York Giants, they allow over six yards
- 26:27Speaker 2: per carry. That is the highest by far in the NFL.
- 26:31Speaker 2: They allow explosive runs at the highest rate in the NFL.
- 26:35Speaker 2: They are on outside zone runs. They are allowing eight
- 26:38Speaker 2: yards per carry. That is almost a first down every
- 26:41Speaker 2: time a running back runs out wide.
- 26:42Speaker 6: What you're seeing Christian McCaffrey, dude, right there, he's one
- 26:45Speaker 6: of the best in the NFL at doing it.
- 26:47Speaker 2: I think this is not only a fantastic matchup for
- 26:49Speaker 2: all running backs, it fits his strength strength specifically.
- 26:54Speaker 6: And if you are the forty nine ers, who else
- 26:56Speaker 6: are you giving the ball?
- 26:57Speaker 2: To, you know, like you're building the entire thing around CMC,
- 27:01Speaker 2: and I think it's a game where they could be
- 27:03Speaker 2: playing from ahead opposed to have the last couple of
- 27:05Speaker 2: games have gone. So I just expect this to be
- 27:07Speaker 2: a huge Christian McCaffrey. Christian McAffrey has seventy four targets.
- 27:11Speaker 1: I think the next closest person is like thirty nine.
- 27:14Speaker 1: It's like, it's ridiculous the gap between the Cfcabo the
- 27:18Speaker 1: best receiver in the NFC West might at this point,
- 27:24Speaker 1: He's definitely the most used receiver in the NFC WES
- 27:27Speaker 1: without a doubt. Speaking of a guy getting a lot
- 27:29Speaker 1: of usage, Kamani dal I got him going for a
- 27:31Speaker 1: buck fifty against the Titans coming up this week. He
- 27:34Speaker 1: is the last couple of weeks really been a workhorse
- 27:37Speaker 1: in this offense, about seventy percent of the snaps, seventy
- 27:40Speaker 1: percent of the rushing attempts. It's a great matchup, first
- 27:43Speaker 1: of all against a bad Titans run defense, but also
- 27:46Speaker 1: I expect that the Chargers will have a lead in
- 27:48Speaker 1: the second half and you could see them just feeding
- 27:51Speaker 1: Vadal over and over and over again. He's gone over
- 27:54Speaker 1: one hundred and fifteen yards in two of his last
- 27:56Speaker 1: three games. I think he makes it three out of
- 27:58Speaker 1: four in a big way this one, and some bonuses
- 28:02Speaker 1: if he finds the end zone at least once in
- 28:04Speaker 1: this contest.
- 28:05Speaker 6: So there you go.
- 28:06Speaker 3: Those are our hot takes.
- 28:08Speaker 5: You guys, want to know what my other one version?
- 28:10Speaker 1: I want you? Actually, actually I actually checked it. I
- 28:12Speaker 1: cheated and looked, but I do want to hear you
- 28:13Speaker 1: say it out loud.
- 28:14Speaker 5: Ah.
- 28:15Speaker 4: Well, I had Christian Watson going for one hundred and
- 28:17Speaker 4: fifty plus yards against the Panthers. Now I pulled that
- 28:20Speaker 4: back because I came a faked like I can't fake
- 28:23Speaker 4: the hype, fake the funk for players that I genuinely
- 28:25Speaker 4: don't like on my rosters. I mean, look, it just
- 28:28Speaker 4: it just feels like, you know, this would be the
- 28:30Speaker 4: week that he would explode. But the Panthers they're not
- 28:33Speaker 4: the defense that we knew in love back in the
- 28:35Speaker 4: past where you could just beat up on them. They No,
- 28:37Speaker 4: they're no longer their defense you could bully like. They're
- 28:39Speaker 4: allowing the fewest completion percentage on downfield throws. And this
- 28:43Speaker 4: is all where Christian Watson really gets all the meat
- 28:45Speaker 4: and potatoes of his fantasy points. So he's honestly a
- 28:48Speaker 4: sit this week for me.
- 28:50Speaker 1: All right. So Christian Watson was in, now Christian Watson
- 28:53Speaker 1: is out. Boom boom. All right, goodfice for us to stay.
- 28:59Speaker 6: You did that very well, but thank you. I appreciate you.
- 29:02Speaker 1: That's one of my weird, useless talents, but I appreciate that.
- 29:06Speaker 1: All right. That is it. We are done. We appreciate
- 29:09Speaker 1: you hanging out with the NFL Fantasy Football Show.
- 29:11Speaker 6: You know the drill.
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- 29:14Speaker 1: remember taking a dog named Shark to the beach. It's
- 29:16Speaker 1: a bad idea. Be safe to take care of yourselves.
- 29:19Speaker 1: Enjoy Week nine, everybody.
- 29:20Speaker 3: We'll talk to you again on Monday.