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  Speaker 1: Good morning, and thank you so much for sharing the
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  Speaker 1: morning with me here at Central from Mop's podcast. I'm
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying. Good morning, and thank you to a few
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  Speaker 1: new followers and listeners. This morning. We have Phil in Brandon,
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  Speaker 1: Dan in Newport, Cindy in Northfield Falls. Very good morning
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  Speaker 1: to you. Sunshine in about twenty one degrees today, which
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  Speaker 1: seems like a heat wave. It was negative twelve at
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  Speaker 1: my house this morning. I think the warm spot was
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  Speaker 1: coming into Bury at negative nine. Clear tonight, negative three Tomorrow,
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  Speaker 1: sun clouds twenty eight. Wednesday morning snowshowers twenty seven with
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  Speaker 1: some sun in the afternoon. Day cloudy in twenty three.
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  Speaker 1: Similar on Friday, and another harsh cold snap headed for
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  Speaker 1: us this weekend. Daytime highs on Saturday three. Super Bowl
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  Speaker 1: Sunday nine. That's gonna be a great day to stay
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  Speaker 1: on indoors and watch some football, all the pregame stuff
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  Speaker 1: leading up to it all day, which by the way,
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  Speaker 1: actually starts today. Sports fans. Richard Williams on the birthday
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  Speaker 1: list today, Anderson Brown, Lyman, Curtis May, Grout, Ross Derry,
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  Speaker 1: Ryan Grandfield, Curtis Brown, my good buddy, Frankie Allen on
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  Speaker 1: the birthday list yesterday. Happy birthday? Do you so? Community calendar?
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  Speaker 1: What's going on? First of all, I see that there's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of new activity over at the American Legion
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  Speaker 1: Post ten right here the Granite City, which is great
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  Speaker 1: stuff because people need to get out of their homes
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  Speaker 1: and go somewhere and enjoy some drinks, some food, some
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  Speaker 1: live music. There's always great things happening at the Legion.
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  Speaker 1: Tomorrow night dine in or take out. They've got their
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  Speaker 1: Tuesday night meal. It's just twelve bucks. They ask you
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  Speaker 1: to call ahead today in order if you'd like to
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  Speaker 1: get on the list. Four seven nine nine zero five eight.
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  Speaker 1: Wellness Wednesday is back on Wednesday, this coming at the
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  Speaker 1: well Space building right here in Bury twenty three. Summer
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  Speaker 1: Street starts at four point thirty. We're gonna be talking
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  Speaker 1: a lot about that as we move closer. Also on Wednesday,
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  Speaker 1: this coming day after tomorrow, the Governor's Ballroom at the
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  Speaker 1: Capitol Plaza Hotel in Montpellier, the Welcome Back Legislator's Reception.
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  Speaker 1: It's an opportunity for you to meet some of the
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  Speaker 1: legislators and speak directly with them, raise some concerns and
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  Speaker 1: listen to what they have to say. However, if you
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  Speaker 1: would like to be there, you got to get on
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  Speaker 1: the list. Contact Kelly Finnegan over at the Central Vermont
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  Speaker 1: Chamber of Commerce. They're the ones that are hosting this.
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  Speaker 1: You got to let them know that you'd like to
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  Speaker 1: be there. Kfinnegan at Central VT dot com if you'd
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  Speaker 1: like to be included, I'll put that up in the
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  Speaker 1: comments here as well. So what else looking ahead here?
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  Speaker 1: Bingo at the Canadian Club on Thursday, we got a
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  Speaker 1: busy week here. Friday night at the American Legion, we
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  Speaker 1: get a solo artist at five point thirty. We got
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  Speaker 1: the Penguin plunged. This weekend, we also have the Central
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  Speaker 1: Vermont Show up at the Burry Auditorium on Saturday and Sunday.
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  Speaker 1: It's going to be a cold weekend for it. Get
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  Speaker 1: up there and you know, enjoy. There's always a time
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  Speaker 1: of people. Night to Shine Next weekend Friday February thirteenth
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  Speaker 1: at the Elks Lodge going to be amazing, freezing fun
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  Speaker 1: for families. Looking ahead here Friday February twenty seventh through
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  Speaker 1: March first, and we got the link to register for
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  Speaker 1: that up on the aired out page. It's going to
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  Speaker 1: be amazing. I've already been in touch with some of
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  Speaker 1: the organizers and we're gonna sneak them on the air
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  Speaker 1: real real soon. Being that it is Monday, we have
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  Speaker 1: not only day one of the work week, day number
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  Speaker 1: two technically of February, and February is American Heart Health Month.
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  Speaker 1: Heart disease, I think most of us would agree, doesn't
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  Speaker 1: always come with flashing lights and sirens. Sometimes it whispers
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  Speaker 1: before it roars. Today on aired out, I have a
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  Speaker 1: local guy, Josh Howard, who's sitting right next to me,
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  Speaker 1: right here, with a story that proves why paying attention
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  Speaker 1: can save your life. As I said earlier this morning,
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  Speaker 1: heart disease. And I've done some of the some of
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  Speaker 1: the stats here, Josh, the number one killer of men
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  Speaker 1: and women both in the United States every year. About
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  Speaker 1: one in five deaths is heart related. And nearly half
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  Speaker 1: of adults have some form of cardiovascular disease and don't
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  Speaker 1: even know it. Pretty amazing. And those are just some
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  Speaker 1: real quick, simple stats that I just found here in
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  Speaker 1: front of me this morning. But I think I think
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  Speaker 1: local stories hit a lot harder than national stats. This
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  Speaker 1: was a big wake up call for you, I would say, So, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: what what happened?
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  Speaker 2: Man?
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  Speaker 1: What's your what's your story?
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  Speaker 3: Well, So September eleventh of twenty twenty three. I woke
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  Speaker 3: up by my cat, of all.
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  Speaker 1: Things, twenty twenty three. All right, so yeah, three years ago.
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  Speaker 3: Yep, and I guess my cat was acting weird all night.
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  Speaker 3: I had a I was housing somebody after the flood
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  Speaker 3: that year, and he was still there and the cats
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  Speaker 3: were bothered him. And well, next thing I know, I
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  Speaker 3: wake up, like what's going on? And I just felt
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  Speaker 3: this intense pain all through my chest, my back, my arms.
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  Speaker 3: I could barely walk. I got up like, well, what's
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  Speaker 3: going on? Trying to figure this out, figure this out.
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  Speaker 3: I wake my wife up and I say, I think
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  Speaker 3: I gotta go to the r and well we fly
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  Speaker 3: up there. Of course I'm in a bit of a panic.
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  Speaker 3: I can't put my shoes on. I'm just so weak.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what's happening to me. And of course
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  Speaker 3: in my mind, I'm like, oh, it's could be nothing,
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  Speaker 3: be intongestion or something like that. Right, Well, I get
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  Speaker 3: up there, and I stumbled my way into the urgency room.
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  Speaker 3: I hit the floor and all I can say is
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  Speaker 3: chest pain. And they rushed me in to back. The
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  Speaker 3: excellent staff up there, rush me in the back, throw
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  Speaker 3: a bunch of tests at me cat scans and stuff,
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  Speaker 3: and they said, well, we're not going to keep you here,
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  Speaker 3: and I said, what's going on? Like, oh, you're going
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  Speaker 3: to Burlington for emergency heart surgery. I was like, oh boy,
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  Speaker 3: that kind of stinks. Barrytown ems excellent. Squad got me
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  Speaker 3: up there in like thirty minutes or less, just flying,
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  Speaker 3: absolutely flying from Berlin. From Berlin, Yeah, that's like their route.
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  Speaker 3: There's probably more like twenty minutes. I mean we were
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  Speaker 3: screaming I get up there. And the only delay I
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  Speaker 3: had is I said, well, I want to see my
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  Speaker 3: wife before I go into surgery. So they're waiting for
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  Speaker 3: her to follow up, and she was flying to She
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  Speaker 3: was talking with the doctors on the way up as
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  Speaker 3: far as what they're going to do and options that
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  Speaker 3: we had and so and so forth. But then we're told, like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, it's gonna be a mechanical valve, all that
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  Speaker 3: kind of stuff. The last thing I remember is saying
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  Speaker 3: I love you to my wife, and they knocked me
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  Speaker 3: out as they were shaving me up and all that
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  Speaker 3: kind of stuff. It was happened pretty quick. Turns out
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  Speaker 3: was an a archie section. I had no idea I
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  Speaker 3: had any issues whatsoever. Leading up to it, I had
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  Speaker 3: like some dizziness here and there. I had like a
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  Speaker 3: little chest pain, and I always made excuses, you know,
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  Speaker 3: back pain I always had, and like, oh, that's just
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  Speaker 3: a sore back. It all adds up now in hindsight,
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  Speaker 3: being twenty twenty, that it's probably all related. It turns
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  Speaker 3: out I had a bicuspid valve, something that you are
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  Speaker 3: born with.
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  Speaker 2: It's just a deformity.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of people have it don't have any problems
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  Speaker 3: if they know about it.
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  Speaker 2: Knowing about it is a big thing. It's genetics.
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  Speaker 3: And how old do you know, I'm in twenty five
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  Speaker 3: for about twenty years now, yeah, what I like to say.
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  Speaker 3: But I was forty two at the time, all right.
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  Speaker 1: And so forty two years yep of this being undetected, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and then I.
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  Speaker 3: Don't know ninety yards And the only way to find
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  Speaker 3: out about it is an echo cardiogram, a cat scan,
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  Speaker 3: something on those lines.
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  Speaker 2: They actually see it.
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  Speaker 3: And I never really had one of those in my heart,
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  Speaker 3: So I never had any never went to the hospital
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  Speaker 3: for any heart related stuff, never had any red flags.
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  Speaker 1: No, no real obvious warning signs. No in the in
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  Speaker 1: the days or weeks leading up to this.
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  Speaker 3: I was actually just worked outside the day prior and
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  Speaker 3: I was tired from it. But you know, and looking
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  Speaker 3: back on now, like my constant exhaustion when I was
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  Speaker 3: doing stuff outside probably related most likely, And well, I'm
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  Speaker 3: glad I made it. It was a close call. For
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  Speaker 3: eight archtiz sections. People that have them the type as
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  Speaker 3: like I had, where they actually pop, fifty percent of
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  Speaker 3: the people that get them die on the spot, just
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  Speaker 3: drop dead. Of those fifty percent, half of them never
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  Speaker 3: make it to the hospital. Other people that do make
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  Speaker 3: it to the hospital, only half of them make it
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  Speaker 3: to the er or to the operating room. And from
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  Speaker 3: there on it's like every minute you'd lose a percentage point.
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  Speaker 3: I was in surgery for forty hours for that one,
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  Speaker 3: forty forty hours total, not in a row, but you know,
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  Speaker 3: they would keep me open. I had a lot of
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  Speaker 3: bleeding issues, so they kept me open and put me
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  Speaker 3: in the ICU where can give me a bunch of blood?
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  Speaker 3: I think it was like seventy units of blood all together,
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  Speaker 3: and I was down to last little bit that they
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  Speaker 3: can give me because otherwise they just wouldn't work anymore.
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  Speaker 3: And I finally stopped bleeding, which is good, and I
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  Speaker 3: woke up I don't know, like a bunch of days later.
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  Speaker 3: I couldn't even tell you, and it was kind of freaky,
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  Speaker 3: definitely kind of freaky. I was definitely not with it
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  Speaker 3: loss of houcination houcinations. I was staring at the ceiling
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  Speaker 3: with a tube down my throat, couldn't say anything, and
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  Speaker 3: I thought I was at home, and I was thinking
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  Speaker 3: to myself, like when did I change the ceiling here,
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  Speaker 3: you know, And the nurses would come in, like, how
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  Speaker 3: can we turn a TV on for you? I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: oh no, I thought that TV was breathing. I could
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  Speaker 3: have swore I saw breathing, so I wasn't best for that.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it was all kinds of fun, lots of pain,
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  Speaker 3: but they managed that went pretty well. But yeah, it's
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  Speaker 3: my second surgeon told me that, like, you know, you
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  Speaker 3: probably feel like you got hit by a train, and
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  Speaker 3: that's that's pretty accurate. That's pretty accurate. But I made
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  Speaker 3: it through. Sorry, my recovery process. I had to learn
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  Speaker 3: how to walk pretty well again. It's nothing really wants
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  Speaker 3: to work after you've been down that long and had
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  Speaker 3: that much of work done. They end up giving me
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  Speaker 3: a mechanical valve. Eric root graft had a triple cabbage,
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  Speaker 3: which is basic a bunch of bypasses. They just got
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  Speaker 3: a lot of new parts. It was found I had
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  Speaker 3: a bunch of tight bea dissections at that time too,
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  Speaker 3: but being a complicate complexity of the had to happen
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  Speaker 3: and we couldn't really deal with that at the time.
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  Speaker 3: So I started that process of recovery. Went to cardi
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  Speaker 3: rehab in December of that year and completed that. But
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  Speaker 3: in end of December I ended up getting COVID, which
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  Speaker 3: is kind of weird. That was kind of a shocker,
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  Speaker 3: but it wasn't a big deal. They gave me some
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  Speaker 3: medicine for it, the good stuff, and got over that.
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  Speaker 3: But in January I started getting chest pains again of
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  Speaker 3: twenty four and so I go to the er. I
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  Speaker 3: had been now the er and the hospital here and
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  Speaker 3: there for a while because at that point I was told, like,
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  Speaker 3: you really don't have the I don't really have the
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  Speaker 3: convenience of saying it's just a cold, it's just that
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  Speaker 3: just a whatever, any issues.
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  Speaker 2: I was supposed to go there. It was still kind
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  Speaker 2: of that case.
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  Speaker 3: So in January I started going in there again, and
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  Speaker 3: they found that I had a infection. Who knows where
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  Speaker 3: it came from, probably from the first surgery. Not their fault,
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  Speaker 3: it's emergency surgery. It happens, you know. But had an affection.
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  Speaker 3: It was sticking to my new valve, my mechanical valve.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god.
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  Speaker 3: And of course said, well, we'll try some antibiotics. So
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  Speaker 3: we tried antbiotics, like the really hardcore stuff you gotta
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  Speaker 3: be in the hospital to get.
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  Speaker 2: It looks like.
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  Speaker 3: Neon yellow mimosas they pump into you. And I was
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  Speaker 3: taking that pretty well and so on and so forth,
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  Speaker 3: and then I got a growth on my valve and
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  Speaker 3: they said, well, I had a ninety percent of My
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  Speaker 3: doctor said, yeah, we probably have to go back in
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  Speaker 3: there and do a redoce surgery. And of course I'm
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  Speaker 3: still not in your right mind, so I'm gonna do
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  Speaker 3: anything I cannot to A ten percent was one guy said,
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  Speaker 3: well we could probably the antibotics might work. We keep
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  Speaker 3: trying them. So that's the course of what I did,
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  Speaker 3: not really thinking straight. I probably shouldn't been making my
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  Speaker 3: own decisions at that point because out of pure fear,
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  Speaker 3: and uh, well that didn't work. So by February, I
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  Speaker 3: started peeing blood and all that kind of stuff and
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  Speaker 3: went to ER and from February until April I was
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  Speaker 3: in the hospital.
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  Speaker 1: Which which February we talked to twenty four, twenty twenty four,
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  Speaker 1: all right.
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  Speaker 3: So not that long after the first surgery. So I
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  Speaker 3: was admitted in and we're gonna be waiting for a
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  Speaker 3: REDO surgery, and things just kept kind of getting worse
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  Speaker 3: and worse and worse. I dissected again, and one of
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  Speaker 3: my other dissectually had popped when I was up at UVM,
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  Speaker 3: and they went in that was an easy one days,
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  Speaker 3: went in through it artery and coiled it up and
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  Speaker 3: sealed that one off, and then I got transferred down
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  Speaker 3: to mass General. The reason I went down there is
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  Speaker 3: not because UVM can't handle awesome doctors, awesome staff up there.
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  Speaker 3: They didn't have all the specialized equipment they wanted to
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  Speaker 3: have totally acceptable. So I went down to a Boston
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  Speaker 3: General and taking care of me. Down there, I was
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  Speaker 3: probably two days away from my open heart surgery again
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  Speaker 3: to REDO, and I dissected again, this one near my liver,
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  Speaker 3: and so they quickly went in the same thing with
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  Speaker 3: the artery coiled that off. I got to do that
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  Speaker 3: with no anesthesia because they didn't want to give me
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  Speaker 3: an anesthesiacause it would affect the big surgery I had
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  Speaker 3: to have done, so I got to Well, they put
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  Speaker 3: Lyda cane on the incision, so you don't get that.
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  Speaker 3: You feel everything else though, every last.
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  Speaker 2: Bit of it.
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  Speaker 3: Kidding me, yeah, And I could have asked for it
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  Speaker 3: any time, but at that you go through enough where
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  Speaker 3: you kind of get a pretty high tape fain tolerance,
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  Speaker 3: and which is convenient, I guess, but it hurt.
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  Speaker 2: But they took care of that.
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  Speaker 3: And then the second surgery, open heart surgery, they just
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  Speaker 3: took everything back out, replace it, put it back in,
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  Speaker 3: and cleaned everything up and it was actually a lot smooth.
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  Speaker 3: It was about twenty hours that time, so, which is excellent.
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  Speaker 3: Recovery was a lot better. I was walking the same
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  Speaker 3: day that they woke me up, and they actually woke
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  Speaker 3: me up early because they were afraid that I was
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: gonna have a stroke. So I had a stroke after
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  Speaker 3: first and during the first surgery, so it was a
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: high risk this time. So I was already throwing cloths everywhere,
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  Speaker 3: destroyed my kidney, destroying my liver, whole nine yards. But yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it's been a process and well, luckily I have not
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  Speaker 3: been admitted to the hospital since then. So thank you
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  Speaker 3: to all the hospital staff, all the nurses, all everybody.
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  Speaker 3: Excellent excellent professionals at all these facilities.
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  Speaker 1: So enough so the last two the last two years,
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  Speaker 1: a year and a half.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been in recovery for sixty months.
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  Speaker 3: Whatever that is there, all right, So I think it
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  Speaker 3: was like April twentieth I had the surgery.
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  Speaker 2: Or something like that.
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  Speaker 1: You've lost some weight a.
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  Speaker 3: Little bit, Yeah, I have to see it, about one
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  Speaker 3: hundred pounds. At one point, I was getting kind of emaciated.
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  Speaker 3: It's I could not eat for like, I don't know,
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  Speaker 3: three or four weeks after my first surgery, just couldn't
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  Speaker 3: do it. Yeah, but food in front of men, take
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  Speaker 3: a bite like now, I'm good. It was exhausting to eat.
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  Speaker 3: So I was like, no, not having it. So it's
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  Speaker 3: just fallen right off of me. Eventually had to make
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  Speaker 3: some changes, had to eat something, and well got onto
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  Speaker 3: kind of a health kick on that one. It's you
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  Speaker 3: get a lot of limitations that you're allowed to eat
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  Speaker 3: and what you can't eat. We're kind of weird, like
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  Speaker 3: I can't have broccoli anymore. Okay, imagine that I actually
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: liked broccoli too, which kind of stinks. But some other
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  Speaker 3: leafy greens because I'm on blood pinners.
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  Speaker 1: Interesting.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and uh but you.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: Know, no trans fats, no satur you gotta watch the
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: whole shebang. So yeah, I've been eating the same thing
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: every single day for since twenty twenty three.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: And what is that? What is the same thing?
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: I stink here. I have a big tub of some
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: zero sugar yogurt. That's my breakfast. I usually have a
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: protein shake. I go bananas, just bananas and apples to
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: eat throughout the day. And for dinner, I just do
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: ground turkey. It's like nine nine percent lean, yeah, real
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: lean stuff. Some keto bread and sweet potato. That's it.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: Is that the menu? Every day?
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: Every day, every day, well, well every day about every
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: eight weeks.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: I do.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: I do cheat a little bit. I take my boy
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: over to the Chinese buffet.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: He likes that place, and we go ham.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: I feel like hell for about three days afterwards, do
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: you Oh yeah, I could. It's once you eat like that,
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: you start eating like you eat something really junkie. You
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: feel it pretty badly. So I think it's all that
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: sodium that gets me. But one time shots aren't gonna
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: kill you. Yeah, moderation, moderation, which is, uh, it's not
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: easy for so many of us now it's uh, it's
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: pretty difficult. I've been trying to teach my kids, uh,
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: the healthier lifestyle sort of thing. We we cook at home,
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: when should say? I cook the dinners at home every
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: single day and on occasion they want some dolls, they
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: want something junkie.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I say, all right, it's been two months, let's
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: go ahead and do it.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: And then we can wait a while again. Just whatever
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: they I said, you guys can have anything you want.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: Is to make it worth it, because they're not gonna
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: do this tomorrow. It's gonna be a little while.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Josh Howard is my guest this morning on Aired Out.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: We have a few people that are just joining us
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: that are wondering what happened, What's what's your story? And
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: their hearing just the last couple of minutes here. Bottom
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: line is you had what's called an aortic dissection, where
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: the inner layer of the a order. And I'm learning
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: this taking notes also surfing the web. Here tears and
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: blood goes between the layers of the aortic wall, and
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: this can kill.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: You instantly, yeah, instantly.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: So this is not your classic cardiac arrest heart attack.
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: No, No, it's a little worse than that. But what
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: leads up to it is a lot of a lot
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: of signs that you just kind of ignore. You might
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: have high blood pressure that can help it kind of
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: tear along there, stress, poor eating.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: Habits, you know, things like that.
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: It's and of course you might see stuff like pain,
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: random pains here and there. Could be in your back,
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: could be in your arm, could be in your chest,
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: could have been be in your legs. Because the eight
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: orc root feeds everything everything. And what my doctor would
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: tell me is that internally, like your organs, you're as
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: far as like we're to locate pain, like where it's
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: actually hurting. Your body actually has no idea how to
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: tell you like, oh, my kidney hurts or my liver hers.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: It might show up up here in your armpit. It
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: just because your body doesn't know where to tell you
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: where it's at. That's something's wrong.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: February is American Heart Health Months, and being that this
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: is day number two of the month, what better time
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: to be talking about this. Yeah, I mean this is
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: you really, and you're a young guy. I mean you
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: really never know when your numbers up, when when this
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: is going to happen to you. And you were just
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: fine forty two years of your your life. You're walking
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: around you got this this.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: Ticking time bomb, ticking.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: Time bomb, and man, when your time ran up. I
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: mean you've you've already heard many times you're lucky to
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: be alive.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah. They gave me a ten percent chance.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: Ten percent from when you had from.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: When I went into surgery to when I came out.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: So by the time I came through.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: And you had surgery twice.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: Twice, ye, well a second one, I had a much
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: higher percentage, right, I mean, plan surgeries go so much smoother,
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: you can prep out so much better. But that's not
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: saying that Mass General does it better than UBM. I
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: think they're both fantastic, but one was playing, one was emergency.
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: They both saved my life. Yeah, they both did a
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: great job.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: So I think the important the main takeaway today by
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: having you on is to change some lifestyle because you
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: could have some underlying, hidden stuff going on with your
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: heart that you you don't realize. I mean, you felt fine,
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: everything was normal in your life until this the most part.
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: I mean, like I said, hindsight, you kind of remember
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: signs that that might have been something, that might have
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: been something maybe I should have gotten it checked out.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: But in the moment, it's like, Okay, that's just kind
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: of weird.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: I'm dizzy. Maybe I just need to.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: Drink water or something, of course, but the fact that
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: it was happening more often probably a decent sign. The
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: one blessing that I have in the whole situation is
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: being that because I had a bicuspid valvege a bad valve,
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: and since it's genetic, I got to get my whole
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: family tested, so they all get to echo cartograms and
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: check out the valve. And I found my oldest daughter
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: has it by custom valve, and so does my mother,
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: which is it's not a death sentence. It doesn't mean
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: it's going to turn into anything. It just means they're
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: going to monitor it, which is the absolute blessing.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: Say that again, by what by cuspod? Okay, spell it,
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: b I.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: See you at us P I D that's sound right.
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm looking it up right now. Bacy Valvess
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: have three openings. I only had two.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: Okay, it's a rare genetic.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: Thing, but people have it a lot. Most people have it,
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: have no idea they have it.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: This is amazing to hear this. I'm gonna share with
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: everyone what I'm seeing here this morning. I'm gonna post
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: it up in the comments. But this is incredible to
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: hear your story afterwards. I mean, we're year and a
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: half or so, it'sh two years somewhere in there since
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: the second surgery. You've lost one hundred pounds.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: You're living up at Planet Fitness. How many days a week?
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: I go there six days a week.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: Six days a week for how long right now?
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: About an hour to an hour and a half a day. Yep.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: Wow, just part of my daily routine. I wake up
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: nice and early. I get up, I get my take,
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: my medicine, all that kind of stuff, get what I
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: need to get in me, and just head up there
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: and get it out of the way. And it's not
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: always easy. It's not always something I want to do.
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: But I don't sit around and think about it because
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: that's procrastination. I just won't go so rip it like
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: a band aid and just do it, get it done.
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: You'll feel better afterwards every day, every.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: Day, you told me before we cracked the microphones.
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: I hate cardio, Oh I do. I don't do cardio,
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: but it's I do lift. That's what I like to do.
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: And minus stands where my doctor are telling me, as
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: long as I'm doing something in there getting the heart
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: rate up, it all counts.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: It's all good.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: Heart rate is heart rate in a way, it's kind
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: of all cardio.
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: But yeah, it doesn't matter. It depends on how much
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: intensity you bring to it. So the more intensit you
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: bring it, the better you're gonna better results you're gonna have.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: All Right, so you're you're lifting, and you also were
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: suggesting to me maybe a little bit less weight, but
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: proper form.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of a lot of
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: information out there as far as how to lift and
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: stuff like that. You can you basically want to shoot
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: for like eight to twelve reps of any weight.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: I mean, what are you doing?
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: That's the general rule and hitting failure somewhere in there. So,
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: but also focus on your range of motion, getting the
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: full range in there and putting the weight. Like let's
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: say you're doing a bicep curl instead of doing it
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: from down low, you set up a cable or your
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: weights however you want to do it, so the weight's
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: ninety degrees against your palm at full extension, so all
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: the weight is at the beginning, it gets lighter at
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: the top because that's going to just promote more growth,
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: more stretch, help your joints out.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: Are you able to pull that microphone to your chest
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: so that our listeners can hear this mechanical.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: That audible right now?
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: Get it's gonna be that's crazy, get it? Yeah, that's amazing.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: So that's a mechanical valve.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: Mechanical valve.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, how's that thing powered?
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: I think it's with hopes and dreams. They give you
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: a choice. It's either mechanical bulbine or pork valve. And
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: being my age, I recommend a mechanical because it's never
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: should never have to get replaced unless you get an
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: affection on it. Of course, pork and bowlbine min are
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: stands like every ten to fifteen years, you got to
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: go through.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: The whole thing again.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: Here's the thing, man, and I don't need to tell
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: you this because you know this, so many of us
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: know this. The winters are long and cold up here
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: in Vermont. Yeah, and I, along with so many other people,
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: are guilty of inactivity during the winter.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: Just not.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: Moving around enough, even if we're not going to the
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: gym six days a week like you are, just getting
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: out and having some controlled, regulated, consistent activity, even if
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: it's ten to fifteen minutes. We're all, We're not all.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: So many of us are are guilty of just not
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: getting that in man.
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's whatever you think you would enjoy doing.
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: There's no wrong answer to how to be active. It's
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: whatever you want to do. If there's no wrong way
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: to do it, just have at it.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: Glenn's asking you if that's if that drives you nuts,
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: if you can hear it all the time in your head?
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: Oh, I can hear it twenty four seven. I just
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: kind of block it out at home. I got some
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: old clocks I inherited, and you'll have a good lafe
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: loud take to it so it drowns it out.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: So what do you recommend to someone like my elf
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: who listen? Some of our excuses, if you will, for
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: lack of a better term, are pretty valid. We're just crazy, busy,
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: we're going from point A to point B to point C.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: We've got to be here, We've got to be there.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: And then it's go, go, go go, And then it's
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: whatever after dinner or whatever, it's crash onto the couch,
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: warm blanket, Netflix for the next however long, and then
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: until we're exhausted and we go to bed. That's a
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: routine that so many of us are caught up in. Ye.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: I can make the excuse too.
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: I got three kids there, I say, I gotta drive
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: all three of them to school or or get them
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: to the bus every morning. I got a son that
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: has on three basketball t is right now, the practice
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: isn't A lot of stuff is crazy. I got to
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: make dinner for everyone in the household, and I still
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: go out and I and I work just about every day,
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: you know. Right now this winter not as much, but
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: I plow off my buddy, you know, so every time
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: it snowstorms out there, I'm up there at twelve o'clock
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: in the morning. But the secret is you make time
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: for it. You create the time, you plan ahead for it.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: Don't find the time, because you'll never.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: You're not gonna find it.
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: Find Maybe I'll have it afternoon now I go early
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: in the morning because that's what works for me. I
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: create the time I get up specifically for it, and
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: I go. I get it over with. I'm back in
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: time to do my entire day. And later on at night,
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: let's say I'm exhausted because I did so much that day,
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: I can go to sleep. I don't have any guilt
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: about whatsoever I did my stuff.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: It's good to go eating well. When you say your stuff,
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: your eating habits, and your your exercise habits, that's your stuff.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: Yep. Pretty well scheduled.
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: Every day, self disciplined. Brother is it's tough to come by.
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: It's easy easy to make excuses.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: Not to go.
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: It's too cold outside, it's gonna be too busy up there.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: It's you know, I'm too hungry now. I was like, oh,
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: I just want to wrest a little bit longer. Well,
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: we all know how that goes. Procrastination is it's rough.
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: Rip it like a band aid, just get it done with.
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: I don't like going every day sometimes sometimes I really
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: don't want to, but I just do it, get it
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: done with.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: Wow, and once you're there.
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: I mean, I like going to the gym rather than
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: doing stuff at home because you go to the gym,
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: there's only one thing to do.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, right, that's it.
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: I'm at home. I'm like, oh yeah, we have a
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: treadmill and a bike and all that stuff at home. Yeah,
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: they're coat racks. That's just call it what it is.
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: I don't know how many other people out there have
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: a coat rack treadmill, but I'm pretty sure they're pretty
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: well common.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: We got to comment here Becky saying, walk thirty minutes
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: a day, even twenty minutes a day.
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: And whenever you hit whatever you can muster. You know, yes,
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: making a challenge. You know, it's you walk thirty minutes
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: a day. You know, I wish I could have done
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: that after my first surgery and my second surgery. So
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: it's they try to get chipped walking really quick. You
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: still have tubes any it for drainage and the first
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: time to get a ship walking. If you get five
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: feet you're doing pretty good. Wow, your legs aren't working.
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: It's extremely painful and you just end up collapsing down.
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: So working up to that thirty minute mark to be
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: able to stay active is it's a struggle. Wow, So
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: take it as you will. If you can do thirty
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: minutes now, if something were to happen, your recover is
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: going to go so much better, no matter what kind
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: of surgery.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: It is also important to know your numbers. Josh, your
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: your your blood pressure, your cholesterol, your your glucose, your sugars.
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I drop off a few gallons of blood
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: a month at the hospital up there. They like to
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: test me, and I keep pretty good track in my
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: heart rate, pretty good track of my blood pressure. I
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: keep logs of it as well as waiting stuff. The
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: doctors like that kind of stuff. And I would say
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: if anyone out there has any issues or are monitoring
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: anything at home, those are numbers. If you keep a
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: log book and you bring stuff into your doctor, they're
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: not going to think that you're overthinking anything whatsoever. You
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: tell them your whole story. If something's not important to it,
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: that them decide, you know, because it's great.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: Anything's so weird. Everything's so weird.
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: So you could say, like, oh, yeah, all of a sudden,
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: I started liking hot sauce. It doesn't sound like much.
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: Maybe that is something I don't know. I'm not a doctor, but.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: Everything there's a crowd out there. The I'm fine crowd.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that type. My dad's that type.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: I have a couple of friends and some of them
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: are listening right now. They know who they are. I
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: don't need to call them out. I may be one
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: of them.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think a lot of people are. They don't.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: They're afraid to tell it stuff. Here's the thing they've heard,
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: they've heard it all before. You know. It's it's fine,
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: it's absolutely fine.
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't embarrass yourself or anybody else going in there.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: You can. You can say you grew gentile in the
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: back of your head. They've probably seen it. Yes, it's fine,
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: And the other thing is, it's like so many of us,
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: we love to self diagnose. Yeah, I know my body,
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: my body better than anybody, and I know what's going on.
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's tough to say what constitutes a trip
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: to the er or a call it a doctor, But
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: they call it a doctor.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: Is anytime there's always somebody on call. If you have
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: a doctor, yeah, and they'll get back to you. They'll say, hey,
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: do this.
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: Or don't do this, and so and so forth will
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: tell you to monitor whatever it's.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: But we're not doctors.
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: Sure, you know, they go to school for a long time.
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: They they spend a long time in the field to
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: get to that point, right, you know, they have a
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: lot of experience.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: Don't decide.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: Don't wait for the nausea, the sweats, the jaw paine,
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: the dizziness.
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: I never forget into that that it was a whole
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: episode I had, but none less. Yeah, that's you don't
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: want to get to that point because at that point
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: it might just be too late and it sneaks up
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: on you.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: It hits you just out of nowhere. You have no thing,
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: no idea. It's common.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know these these stats. One in five
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: deaths is heart related every year in America. There could
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: be ticking time bombs among the listeners that we have
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: that are listening right now. Yeah, what say you? What
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: do we do?
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: Uh?
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: You know, outside of knowing what our blood pressure is,
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: what our baseline is, what our cholesterol is, but saying
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: to our doctor, hey, I'd love to be kind of
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: checked out. I would love maybe to see a cardiologist.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: There's no wrong question to ask a doctor.
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: It's you tell them what your symptoms, what your symptoms
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: are if you have any maybe you have a family
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: history of something and you're having a little fear. They'll
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: either recommend it or they won't recommend it. They'll but
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: they'll check you out right then and there. I mean
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: as far as ordering a blood test, yeah, they'll probably
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: do that. That's just standard operential operation. So you go
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: to lab and get your bood drama, do a full panel, syy,
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: what's going on? Yeah, you know, let's listen to your heart. Now,
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: let's check all this out, so and so forth, and
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: you know they'll be asking all those questions and just
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: answer one hundred percent honestly, you know, and if you
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: think of something after the fact, it's okay to call
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: it doctor back and say, oh, I forgot to tell
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: them about this. Yeah, you know it might change something,
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: but they can only work with what they know what
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: it comes down to. So you just got to tell
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: them everything, everything, no matter how embarrassing or whatever it
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: might be.
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: Sure you got you literally had a second chance at
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: living here.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, second chance at living.
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: And I'm the example of you know, what not to
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: do as far as with doctors. I didn't see a
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: doctor since twenty nineteen, twenty eighteen. At that point, you know,
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: COVID happened and you couldn't get in and my doctor
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: had left, and I just like, ah, I'll get another
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: one some other time when I go see him.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: Well, now I.
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: Got like thirty doctors, so right, it's like I'm constantly
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: going to them.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: And let's be honest here, man. I mean you said
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: ten chance of survival. Yeah, so ninety percent chance that
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: you should have been done.
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: Yep, that's what they were telling my wife. I put
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: a whole first surgery. They kept saying, like, he's probably
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: not going to make it. He's probably not going to
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: make it. I feel bad for she was a rock.
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: She stayed up there every night. Just ain't a niceu
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: there until I woke up.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: And you have kids.
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: I got three kids. Yeah, so it was tough her.
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: Her parents, my in laws came down and took care
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: of the household. They took it pretty hard, and I
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: think there's still a little bit of trauma going on there.
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: But you know, the one benefit from the whole thing
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: is the newfound connections. The new found not just respect
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: but admiration for those relationships just brings everything kind of closer.
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: You really, I just really love being there now, you know,
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: more so, and I did it before, but even more so.
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: Now just part of everything, no matter how annoying it
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: might be. Yeah, because with two teenage daughters it.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: Could be a little rough.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: But it's how old are the kids?
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: Sixteen, fourteen, and ten.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: Okay right now? Right now, so they were three years younger. Yeah,
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: my god man.
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: And we've got some We got them a little bit
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: of therapy to go over it and you know, talk
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: about whatever is going on.
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: In their heads because it's it's scary. Yeah.
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: And my oldest daughter, a sixteen year old, I mean
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: like that she has the same by custom that I had,
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: So yeah, causes little bit anxiety with sure, sure, but
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: trying to convince her like you know, it's it's okay.
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: You know, it's like if we know about it, the
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: doctors know about it. She gets seen regularly from cardiologists
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: and gets an echo cartogram every year to make sure
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: nothing's grown, nothing's happening, which I just got. I got
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: another one coming up here in two weeks four, so okay,
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: which she hates.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: Do you feel like like you're a little bit of
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: a specimen that you got all these uh, these doctors,
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: these cardiologists that are like, wow, this is this is
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: the example of somebody who shouldn't have made it but
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: did so. Check it out, man, you know, look look
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: at get Frankenstein here.
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I had a cardioloist telling me that there's
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: not another cardiologist within two undred miles hasn't heard of
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: this case. My When I was down in Boston, I
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: found out they were teaching about me at Harvard because
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: I had a lot of Harvard students there in the hospital.
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: So that was kind of cool. And every doctor point
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: I go to that always bring some other people in
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: say can they have a listen?
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: They're like, yeah, sure of course.
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: You know, I kind of take a little bit of
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: pride knowing that they're learning from me and my past
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: mistakes with my health to what it is now and
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: what's going forward.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: What are some of those past mistakes were you? Were
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: you smoking? Vaping?
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: What?
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: Smoking? I wasn't wasn't a drinker. Yeah I was a smoker.
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: I was not the best eater, you know. I just
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: gas station food, fast food, you know, like grabbings, good
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: to grab and go. If I made dinner at home,
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: it was like, oh, let's put a whole bunch of
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: cheese on that, you know, Like I was all about
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: the flavors like I was eating with desire over freaking
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: anything else, like if I was hungry, like, oh, let's.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: Grab a bag of Dorito's. That sounds like a plan.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: Come on, you know that's it adds up?
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: And you were smoking?
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: Smoking?
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: How much?
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: About a pack a day? Okay?
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: For how long?
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: Oh? Since I was like nineteen eighteen something like that.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: And I quit on nine to eleven, because well, they
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: knock you out for a couple of weeks, it's pretty
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: easy to.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: Not think about it no more. Sure.
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: Which is another secret that's not only a secret to
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: weight loss is open heart surgery, but also secret to
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: quit and smoking. They'll help you right out, just like that.
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: They'll just show a tube down your throat and suck
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: all that junker right out, which is pretty much what
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: it was. You do you still crave a cigarette occasionally?
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's you get over it.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: Wow? Were you drinking a lot before all this happened?
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: Oh? I never drank? Okay, I was never a drinker.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: I never got to that. Never did drugs Okay, wasn't
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: my thing? Yeah, which will last.
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: The other thing too, is you know any medications you
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: might have taken that day or recently or if you
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: take any any thing or not all would counter or whatever.
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, say it that way. Just tell you doctors.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you be honest with them.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: Because so I went in for my tow er the
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: first time I had. I had taken an asper before
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: I left the house, and a tile on all clothes
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: and so much pain. Like I want to see if
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: this does something right. I think I took some anti
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: like some tumbs or something like that, some ani digestion stuff,
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: and I told them about it, and turns out that
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: that changed how they did my asteg and all that
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: kind of stuff, which is good.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: So it all matters.
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: Tell them everything every time, even if you don't think
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: it matters.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: What do you want to do with the rest of
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: your life? What are maybe some things that you were
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: saying to yourself? Holy shit, if I get through this,
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this well.
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: The main thing to see my kids grow up and
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: be healthy, you know, learn those good habits. It's not
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: just you don't have to eat healthy every single day,
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: but just having a healthy lifestyle, eating healthy the majority
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: of the time, you know, learning moderation, you know, being fit,
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: being active.
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: Being healthy.
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: Let them grow up to be whatever they want to be,
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: no matter what it is, and just be happy.
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: That's what I want. So wow, that's the main goal.
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: You know. If they want to bad groceries for the
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: rest of their life.
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: I'm totally fine with that. That's what makes them happy.
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: They can make it work. Let's make it happen. But
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: I don't know the boy. I don't know what he
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: wants to do yet, the ten year old. But I
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: think my oldest wants to go into radiology and some
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: heart stuff, which is kind of interesting.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: So you have you thought about getting involved with the
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: American Heart Association or being a spokesperson for any of
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: these clinics.
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: I haven't, but I don't. I mean, I wouldn't be
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: opposed to it, that's for sure. I don't know how
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: to go about.
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: Doing that, but you know, i'd absolutely do that. They do.
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: Keep telling me I'm a poster child of recovery, so yeah,
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: I make their jobs easy.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: Apparently they know that they can't put a gun to
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: your head and say you have to go to the gym.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: You have to get a minimum of this amount of
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: exercise if you're going to have any more of your
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: life left. In other words, this surgery that we've done
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: isn't one time fix all you need to We've done
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: our job. Now you need to do your job.
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: I do my part of it, and they says, all,
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: I keep this up. The one thing they can guarantee
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: is that when I do die, it won't be heart related,
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: which is wow.
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: You know the valuable outlast me apparently.
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: Wow, that's incredible, man.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: But I think it's gonna make it a little harder
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: to go through airports. But that's all right.
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: Have you have you thought about getting It's easy to
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: get complacent with with things. It's easy to get comfortable
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: with your routine. You're a couple of years in now
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: you were seven days a week, Now you're you're six.
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: Have you have you thought about saying, I'm going to
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: cut back. I'm going to go five days a week.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: I might even go four days a week.
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: No, No, I like it too much. It's I almost
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: feel guilty if I try it. You know I did
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: that once I went to I was like, oh, just
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: take the weekend off, screw.
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: Saturday, and I just regretted it.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: Really.
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's you're getting this kind of this rhythm, and
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: if you interrupt, it's just it's they'll still feel right.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: Did you get any part of your workout regimen? Was there?
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: Was there a trainer involved? Was whether the doctor's telling
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: you this is what you need to do or did
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: you just go up there?
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: And it started off with cardeg rehab of a CVH
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: there and they did a great job.
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: That's mostly cardio equipment.
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: Not my favorite thing, but it kind of got me
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: back into the realm of it. And like I said,
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: once I got to a certain point there where it's like,
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: all right, I got this covered. I got the gym membership.
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: And I tried a little cardio there.
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: I did a little cardio home. Still can't stand it.
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: It's not for me, yea. So other people love it
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: and that's great. So whatever they're into. I always like
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: lifting that. I just went into that and just started
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: playing back around with that, and equipment's changed is the
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: last time I did it, so I was kind of
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: neat trying to learn some new things and.
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: Just took it from there.
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: This is so inspiring to hear this, and it serves
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: as such a profound message to all of us, no
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: matter who you are, where you are, where you're listening,
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: what's your way what you don't weigh what your lifestyle
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: is that there's always an opportunity to live healthier, to
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: make as difficult as they are, to make choices that
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: are going to ensure some longevity.
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: So I always tell the family. It's like they pick
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: out the meals that they make. I eat my own things.
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: So as I say, what do you guys want to
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: eat for dinners? And they pick out a list, and
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: I just make healthier choices within that list, you know.
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: So it's for example, like oh, we want meat lofe Like, okay,
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: well I can get the lean meat, right I can.
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: Or I can do with turkey like I do with myself,
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: you know, keep that leaned up, and you know, pick
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: certain agreements that just a healthier version of the same thing.
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and there.
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: You go commement here. Thank god, you know about it.
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: Genetic testing is so important, Yeah, it really is. How
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: do you do that? You just say to your doc?
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: Oh, for me, it's they just said you're gonna do
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: genetic testing. Yeah right right, But I think, yeah, you
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: can do it through your doctor. I would assume he
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: can have conversation. Yeah, I'm not sure if they'll say
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: yes or no.
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: Right, I think it all depends on assurances and.
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah you want to cover sure, God knows, but I
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: don't know. It just seems like so many of us
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: are like, you know, why why bother bringing it up?
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: Because I don't have any symptoms. My doctor is going
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: to be like, oh, why why, why do you want
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: to do that? Why do you want to test test
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: for that? We've a lot of us have heard that.
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's I don't know, it's uh, trying to convince
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: your doctor doing things. I don't personally have that problem.
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: I have heard of that issue. Yeah, my wife always
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: says like, oh, doctors don't listen to women, Like well,
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: I've been to a doctor and my wife and she
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: doesn't tell them half the things that are going on.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: So it's bringing it up usually the other it's the
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: other way around. It's the guys.
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's the guys will like to bring it
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: up and I don't know, just put it all on table,
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: that's all I can say. Yeah, you know everything. It's
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: like my foot's been hurting for a week. Well, I
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: mean theoretically that could be a blood clot, maybe risk
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: for a stroke, you never know.
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: Or it could just be absolutely nothing.
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just what's wrong with that? Right, I'll take a
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: peace of mind anything o the week.
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: So the doctor say, yep, nothing's wrong with it. You're
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: perfectly fine. Okay, thank you. You know so it took
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: me two hours to find out. Well, you know what,
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: peace of mind? I'll take it, dude.
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: I think you should be doing a like a Ted
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: talk or something. You got you got one hell of
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: a story here, bro, I do.
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: Got a hell of a story.
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: But you know that kind of comes into the other thing.
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: It's my memory shot. Now, this is a whole thing
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: that goes with open heart surgery. Really, they call it
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: pump head syndrome. So it's your cognition's horrible at first.
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: Your memory, your short term memory is just I can't
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: remember names for life of me. You know, it's just gone.
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: It's a constant struggle. But some days are better than others.
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: Wow. Will that get better in time?
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: That's what they say, It might might not. It's one
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: day at a time. So I think it's gotten better
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: since the initial surgery, that's for sure.
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: I was really out of it, no doubt about it.
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: I don't think it was just the medicines I was on.
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: It was short, whole mixture of things.
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: Wow, Josh Howard my guest this morning, and I hope
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: this is going to be an episode that will carry
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: with you, not only in the month of February being
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: the American Heart month, but beyond that too. We should
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: be thinking about this kind of stuff all the time.
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: You've brought an incredible story to the airwaves, man, and
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: I hope it's resonating among the followers and listeners that
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: are tuned in. Life is short.
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: Life is short, and heart issues do not discriminate. Anyone
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: can have it.
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: And even if you're in good shape, even if you're
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: in great shape.
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, just making some healthier choices here and there. It
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: makes such a difference, such a difference. And that's just
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: for your whole body health.
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: You know. Sure you go the extreme, you can go
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: a little bit. It's it's all takes time.
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: But you'll see the results. You'll fet better. Thanks for
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: coming in here, man, What a what a story. What
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: a story. And if if folks have questions for you,
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: just put them right in the chat. You'll go through it.
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: I'll answer something all right, man, Thanks for coming in.
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not a doctor, so you know we'll
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: probably tell us like you have issues, go see a doctor.
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: Sure sure, sure, yeah, Josh Howard, thanks for coming in, man,
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: Thanks for this incredible story that you've shared with us
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: so transparently and being willing to do so. Man, that's amazing,
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: it's amazing. Thank you for having me appreciate you.
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: All right over and now for now, stay warm today,
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: Be careful, drive easy. A couple of spinoffs this morning
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: on some of the Vermont roads. I think the situation
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: up there on three h two is cleared up, but
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: go easy, be careful, God blessed. We'll see you tomorrow
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: morning right here where we are now aired out.
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: U