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Sharri | 24 October · Sharri

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Speaker 1: Why on Sky News.
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Speaker 2: This is Sharry Good Evening.
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Speaker 3: Welcome to the show where we've got huge guests on
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Speaker 3: the program. Tonight, Donald Trump's former attorney general will join
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Speaker 3: me live for an exclusive interview. This as Kamala Harris
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Speaker 3: accuses Trump of fascism while struggling to answer questions at
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Speaker 3: a town hall. Also tonight, former British Commander Richard Kemp
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Speaker 3: is on the show. He's flawed by our revelations that
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Speaker 3: the SBS censored his interview, removing it from their platforms,
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Speaker 3: or because he dared to support Israel. So that exclusive
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Speaker 3: interview with Richard Kemp coming up in just a moment
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Speaker 3: live and a high profile restaurant her pleads guilty today
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Speaker 3: in court to holding a Nazi symbol his wife, issuing
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Speaker 3: a desperate plea to customers who've turned their back on
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Speaker 3: the Nomad group. More on what unfolded a bit later,
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Speaker 3: but first tonight, Darton has called on the Corruption Commission
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Speaker 3: to investigate whether there was any political interference from the
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Speaker 3: Albanesi government in stripping.
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Speaker 2: Mike Bizzullo's Order of Australia.
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Speaker 3: Pizzulo was the tough Secretary of the Home Affairs Department
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Speaker 3: when he was sacked by Anthony Alberzi for engaging in
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Speaker 3: political gossip with a liberal lobbyist friend of Scott Morrison's.
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Speaker 3: There was no corruption, no criminality involved. Peter Dutton today
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Speaker 3: called this a vindictive move. He claimed the government was
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Speaker 3: trying to seek retribution against Buzzulo and he says the
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Speaker 3: Corruption Agency should now investigate here he was on Ray Hadley.
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Speaker 4: This is a clear demonstration of political interference in the process.
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Speaker 4: I actually think it's a matter for the Integrity Commission
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Speaker 4: to investigate because there is no conviction against mister Bizzullo.
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Speaker 4: There's no impropriety alleged against him that would warrant the
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Speaker 4: stripping of this honor, and it is nothing more than
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Speaker 4: the government trying to seek retribution against him. They passed
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Speaker 4: a retrospective law to take part of his salary away
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Speaker 4: or his payout, which was done to apply to him only.
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Speaker 4: And I'd never seen anything like that before, and I
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Speaker 4: haven't seen anything like the stripping of this award.
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Speaker 3: And Peter Darton said the Albanezy government ministers need to
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Speaker 3: disclose whether they were involved in removing Pazzullo's honor because
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Speaker 3: the whole process is meant to be independent.
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Speaker 4: I'm sure that Katie Gallaha and others frankly need to
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Speaker 4: disclose what sort of instruction they've given to the committee
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Speaker 4: and what their expectation has been, because it's not the
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Speaker 4: fair process and in the end it should be and
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Speaker 4: it should be impartial and independent, and it's been anything.
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Speaker 4: But if the Prime Minister believes that he can justify this,
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Speaker 4: he should be talking about why, because I think it's
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Speaker 4: a matter of frankly, the government should refer to Integrity
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Speaker 4: Commission because there clearly has been in appearance in what
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Speaker 4: is supposed to be an independent process.
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Speaker 3: I first broke the story back in March that Mike
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Speaker 3: Pezzulo was set to be stripped of his Order of Australia.
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Speaker 2: I could hardly believe it at the time.
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Speaker 3: It was so petty, so political, so typical of the
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Speaker 3: characters of some of the ministers in this Albanese government.
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Speaker 2: So we're just breaking the.
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Speaker 3: News now that there are plans to strip Mike Bizzullo
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Speaker 3: of his AO despite no corruption or criminality.
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Speaker 2: This is a very rare move.
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Speaker 3: Mike Pezzulo has given a lifetime of service to Australia,
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Speaker 3: including stopping the boats, strengthening the borders.
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Speaker 2: But now because of his.
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Speaker 3: Gossipy text messages with a lobbyist, he's facing having his
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Speaker 3: order stripped. And now around seven months later, the order
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Speaker 3: has officially been removed. Pazzulo was made an Officer of
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Speaker 3: the Order of Australia in the twenty twenty Queen's Birthday
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Speaker 3: Honors for distinguished services to public administration through leadership roles
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Speaker 3: in the areas of national security, border control and immigration.
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Speaker 2: Given for a lifetime of work, and that.
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Speaker 3: Body of work can't be extinguished because of some text messages.
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Speaker 3: Nothing criminal, nothing actually wrong, just a breach of the
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Speaker 3: Public Service Code, according to one interpretation. As Ray Hadley
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Speaker 3: pointed out today, there are many people who have fallen
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Speaker 3: foul of the.
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Speaker 2: Law yet still hold their honors.
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Speaker 5: Well, I'll give you one prime example. There's a TV
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Speaker 5: or former TV personality in New South Wales, Andrew Keith,
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Speaker 5: who's had numerous convictions for violence involving violence against women,
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Speaker 5: and he still enjoys being a member of the Order
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Speaker 5: of Australia. And I mean and this has been going
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Speaker 5: on not just for months, but for years, and there's
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Speaker 5: been no investor. Well they say there's an investigation now,
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Speaker 5: but They did this very quickly with Mike Bozzullo. They
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Speaker 5: haven't been quite as quick with someone who'd been before
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Speaker 5: the course and convicted on the news occasions.
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Speaker 3: Now, Bazzullo was apolitical. He's worked for both sides of politics.
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Speaker 3: He was responsible for setting up the Home Affairs Superministry
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Speaker 3: that has now been all but undone by the Albanezi government,
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Speaker 3: and he also played a major role in stopping the boats.
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Speaker 3: Also in Operation Sovereign Borders. Tony Abbott backed Puzzullo in
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Speaker 3: and he told me when I first broke this story
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Speaker 3: that of all the senior border protection officials from September
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Speaker 3: twenty thirteen, he was the one above all who was
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Speaker 3: convinced that the boats both could and should be stopped.
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Speaker 3: In my view, his departure from public service is a
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Speaker 3: serious loss to our country and from a Prime minister.
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Speaker 3: Scott Morrison also backed in Puzzulo, telling me at the
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Speaker 3: time that no one was more deserving of recognition in
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Speaker 3: our honor system as a public servant than Mike. He's
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Speaker 3: a big loss to the Australian public service. He was
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Speaker 3: an important internal voice to governments of both political persuasions
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Speaker 3: on protecting Australia's national security. So this is an official
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Speaker 3: that both Tony Abbott and Scott Morrison say should be honored.
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Speaker 2: Yet look at how Albanezi treated him.
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Speaker 3: The Prime Minister sacked Pezzulo in late November after a
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Speaker 3: review found that his text messages with Liberal powerbroker Scott
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Speaker 3: Briggs breached the Public Service Code through using his position
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Speaker 3: to gain a benefit for himself for failing to be
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Speaker 3: a political and engaging in disrespectful critiques of ministers. Now,
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Speaker 3: the personal benefit was supposedly having a personal communicationation channel
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Speaker 3: with senior leadership that was said not to be available
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Speaker 3: to other secretaries.
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Speaker 2: But as I've said before.
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Speaker 3: This finding could only be made if the messages of
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Speaker 3: the other departmental secretaries were checked, because some we know
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Speaker 3: are long term friends with ministers, lobbyists and powerbrokers. But
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Speaker 3: it was also a fastical finding because Puzzulo already had
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Speaker 3: direct contact with Turnbull and Morrison, he didn't need the
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Speaker 3: back channel, so there was no personal benefit here at all.
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Speaker 3: Peter Dutton has in the past spoken about how puzzullo
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Speaker 3: sacking by alban EASi was highly political.
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Speaker 4: Clara Kneels at war with her secretary at the moment
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Speaker 4: you said the review that she just commissioned to try
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Speaker 4: and white an like Bazzulla, the secretary of her Home
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Speaker 4: Affairs Department.
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Speaker 6: I don't think there's any question that it's political. Mean
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Speaker 6: An important point here is that there's obviously a huge
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Speaker 6: battle going on at the moment between the Home Affairs
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Speaker 6: Minister Clara O'Neill and the secretary of the her department,
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Speaker 6: Mike Bazilla, who was a secretary when I was at
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Speaker 6: the department. He's a first class public servant and I
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Speaker 6: was very well served by him and by the public
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Speaker 6: servants within the Department of Home Affairs.
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Speaker 3: This all matters because Pazzulo was at the helm of
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Speaker 3: the Home Affairs Department keeping us all safe. Our national
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Speaker 3: security is at stake, and now Tony Burke heads up
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Speaker 3: this ministry which has overseen the fast tracking of visas
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Speaker 3: from Gaza. If there has been political interference to deliberately
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Speaker 3: harm a long serving and distinguished public servant, then Duvn's
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Speaker 3: right the Corruption Commission should investigate this government promised transparency, Albanezi,
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Speaker 3: promised to do politics differently, but in the end we've
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Speaker 3: seen a new low of mean spirited politics, malice and retribution. Now,
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Speaker 3: Richard Camp will join me live in a moment on
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Speaker 3: that major story that the SPS pulled his interview because he.
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Speaker 2: Was too supportive of Israel.
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Speaker 3: But right now let's bring in commentator Jason Morrison and
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Speaker 3: perth Mere Basil Zemplist.
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Speaker 2: Thank you both very much for your time.
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Speaker 3: Now I want to get your feedback on what I've
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Speaker 3: just been speaking about Peter Dutton saying that there should
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Speaker 3: be a corruption inquiry into why Mike Bozullo's Order.
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Speaker 2: Of Australia was stripped. What do you think, Jason, Well, there.
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Speaker 7: A lot of transparency about it, so that's probably a
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Speaker 7: good starting point. The malice in all of this.
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Speaker 2: Is so obvious.
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Speaker 8: It's so obvious.
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Speaker 7: Why of all the people in the Hadley example of
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Speaker 7: Andrew o'keith is a perfect example. There is a list
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Speaker 7: of people who deserve these awards because of things they
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Speaker 7: have done posts the awards being issued, and they pick
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Speaker 7: on this guy why because he's got some kind link
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Speaker 7: across the room. It's malicious, it's grubby and yeah, the
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Speaker 7: big C word is part of it and it should
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Speaker 7: be investigated.
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Speaker 2: We know what that one is.
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Speaker 3: Basil Order of Australia Awards and others like it have
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Speaker 3: been stripped more than forty times in the past, but
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Speaker 3: it's usually from pedophiles after people have had criminal convictions,
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Speaker 3: not from someone who may or may not have breached
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Speaker 3: the Public Service Code.
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Speaker 9: There doesn't seem to be the compelling evidence to rip
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Speaker 9: it off him in this instance, that's for sure. There's
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Speaker 9: not the transparency, as Jason just said, and it does
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Speaker 9: wreak of a politicization of the Australian awards system, and
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Speaker 9: that's not what it's there for. That's not what it's about.
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Speaker 9: It's not supposed to be political in any way, shape
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Speaker 9: or form. And I reckon there's a lot of Australian
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Speaker 9: so that thought it might be one of the few
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Speaker 9: things that still remains a political but not anymore. If
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Speaker 9: this is the treatment that somebody who appears to have
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Speaker 9: deserved that award one at fair and square and now
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Speaker 9: had it stripped off him, it just doesn't seem right.
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Speaker 9: There's not enough evidence. It needs to be more transparent.
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Speaker 9: We need to see the reasons.
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Speaker 2: We need to get the paper trail as well.
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Speaker 3: We need to see whether there were any ministers who
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Speaker 3: did make representations or have involvement ahead of that shocking decision.
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Speaker 3: Let's turn to the US now, where Kamala Harris has
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Speaker 3: called Trump a fascist. She also appeared at a town
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Speaker 3: hall today with Addison Cooper on CNN.
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Speaker 2: Have a look.
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Speaker 8: Yes, I do believe that Donald Trump is unstable, increasingly unstable,
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Speaker 8: and unfit to serve.
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Speaker 1: Do you think Donald Trump is a fascist?
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Speaker 2: Yes?
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Speaker 1: I do, Yes, I do.
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Speaker 8: He admires dictators, sending love letters back and forth with
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Speaker 8: Kim Jong un.
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Speaker 3: Now, the only problem with this argument is that Trump
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Speaker 3: has already been president and he wasn't a fascist while
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Speaker 3: he was in office. You might not have liked everything
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Speaker 3: he did, but he wasn't a fascist.
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Speaker 2: Do you think this is.
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Speaker 3: Stretching it, taking it just a bit too far? When
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Speaker 3: the Democrats, and you know, Kamala Harris, who's running to
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Speaker 3: be president, accuses him of fascism, it's pretty amazing.
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Speaker 4: She's lucky.
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Speaker 7: That's the headline that came out of an interview I
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Speaker 7: watched it. Unfortunately, it was tragic when even Anderson Cooper,
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Speaker 7: you know, a copper for the far left in America,
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Speaker 7: is out there correcting her and pulling her up and
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Speaker 7: stopping her and reminding her, she's been the vice president
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Speaker 7: through all this time. She's saying she could have done
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Speaker 7: they should have done better. That's the headline of this.
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Speaker 7: CNN is being very, very generous with the fascism thing,
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Speaker 7: which is just I mean, it's trivial political point scoring,
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Speaker 7: you know, anything with an ist at the end of
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Speaker 7: it at this time at the election campaign is just
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Speaker 7: muth flinging. You're right, your spot on. People know what
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Speaker 7: Trump is, even if they don't like him, they know
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Speaker 7: what they're going to get because they've seen it before.
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Speaker 7: And that's her problem because they've seen her before too,
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Speaker 7: and she's underwhelming.
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Speaker 3: I think that's a good point you made though that
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Speaker 3: in saying that in greed agreeing or saying that it
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Speaker 3: is a fascist again, that is now the headline out
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Speaker 3: of that interview, rather than all of the other weak
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Speaker 3: answers that she gave. We are going to come back
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Speaker 3: to those answers because I've got Trump's former acting Attorney
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Speaker 3: general on the show later this hour. But Basil, there
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Speaker 3: has been criticism that, given Trump has already faced two
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Speaker 3: potentially three assassination attempts on his life, that by calling
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Speaker 3: him a fascist, by claiming that he likes Hitler, This
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Speaker 3: dangerous language could once again incite violence against him.
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Speaker 9: What do you think of that argument, Well, that's possible,
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Speaker 9: and a case could be made for that argument. I
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Speaker 9: think what it really reaks off, though, is desperation here
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Speaker 9: from Kamala Harris trying to reverse the trend that's sliding
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Speaker 9: away from her and towards Trump. This is his third
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Speaker 9: time around the block in terms of a presidential campaign,
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Speaker 9: and it's at the eleventh hour of the third occasion
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Speaker 9: when he stood before the American people and asked for
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Speaker 9: them to consider him to be their president of the
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Speaker 9: United States. It doesn't matter that they call him a
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Speaker 9: fascist or any of the other stuff. They've already judged
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Speaker 9: him on all of those things. It's not about Trump
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Speaker 9: and what people think of him. It's really about what
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Speaker 9: they think of Harris. And I don't think she's done
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Speaker 9: enough to give anybody enough confidence that she's a leader
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Speaker 9: of substance in waiting.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, there was a good line actually in an article
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Speaker 3: in the Sydney Morning Herald. I read earlier that effectively
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Speaker 3: Trump has been running for office for nine years, Kamala
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Speaker 3: Harris just for one hundred days. So he's a very
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Speaker 3: well known quantity to everyone around the world.
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Speaker 2: They know what they're getting.
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Speaker 3: But Kamala, there are still there's still concerns, they're still
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Speaker 3: uncertainty about what she actually stands for and what she
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Speaker 3: do in office. As I said, we're going to come
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Speaker 3: back to this later this hour with trump'sformer attorney general.
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Speaker 3: Let's have a look now though at this debate over
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Speaker 3: Lydia Thorpe's eligibility to sit in the Senate.
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Speaker 2: As you know by now, footage.
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Speaker 3: Has emerged where she has previously said that she deliberately
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Speaker 3: mispronounced the word heirs, as has in her parliamentary oath.
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Speaker 3: If you've missed it, this was the moment back in
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Speaker 3: twenty twenty two.
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Speaker 10: True allegiance to her Majesty Queen Elizabeth for second, her
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Speaker 10: hairs and successes according to law.
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Speaker 3: And then in subsequent interviews she said she deliberately said
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Speaker 3: hair so that when the Queen passed away there would
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Speaker 3: be no allegiance.
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Speaker 2: I mean, this is childish, juvenile, natty stuff. Her own words.
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Speaker 3: Today, though in an interview with Laura Jay's she backed
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Speaker 3: down from that argument to have.
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Speaker 10: A look now, forgive me for not being you know,
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Speaker 10: my English grammar isn't as good as others. And I
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Speaker 10: spoke what I read, so I misspoke. And to have
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Speaker 10: this country questioned or particularly you know, people like Dutton
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Speaker 10: and other senators from his party, for them to question
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Speaker 10: my legitimacy in this job is an insult and they
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Speaker 10: can't get rid of me.
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Speaker 3: I mean, Jason, it was Lydia who said originally that
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Speaker 3: she deliberately mispronounced the word It wasn't done it.
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Speaker 7: Yes, there's a good reason in the House the last
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Speaker 7: seventy two hours reflected why they nickname her Lydiat because
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Speaker 7: she behaves like it. Look, she put actually she put
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Speaker 7: her fist up, didn't she, and she you know, uttered
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Speaker 7: the words required under section forty two of the Constitution,
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Speaker 7: and then she signed a document which reaffirmed her and
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Speaker 7: then she took the pay under section forty two. I mean,
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Speaker 7: everything she has done has ticked every box. I'm not
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Speaker 7: shocked she doesn't agree with what's on the bit of
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Speaker 7: paper or the affirmation. I mean a third of the
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Speaker 7: Parliament don't even with why they swear an allegiance to it.
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Speaker 7: But it's because they're ignoramisis it's because they don't know
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Speaker 7: what they're actually about and they don't really understand. The
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Speaker 7: nine eighty six we passed a law in the Australian
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Speaker 7: Parliament which made it all all this crown business, all
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Speaker 7: about Australia, the Australia Act. And in nine to eighty
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Speaker 7: six and the haw government, it became very very clear
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Speaker 7: to absolutely everyone that the king is a symbol or
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Speaker 7: the crown is a symbol of it.
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Speaker 11: But you are.
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Speaker 7: Swearing an allegiance to Australia.
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Speaker 12: And its people.
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Speaker 7: And if she doesn't get that, I put it politely
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Speaker 7: to say, she's not.
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Speaker 2: Quite right, Bazil. What do you think.
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Speaker 3: Do you think there's an argument she might be ineligible
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Speaker 3: or is this just a waste of everyone's time or
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Speaker 3: perhaps wishful thinking?
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Speaker 1: Absolutely idiotic.
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Speaker 9: It is a waste of everybody's time, and it is
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Speaker 9: a waste of everybody's time that she prompted actually by
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Speaker 9: highlighting it to everybody, trying to say, well, I never
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Speaker 9: took that oath of allegiance because I misspoke, then suddenly
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Speaker 9: realizing hang on, that couldn't cost the quarter of a
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Speaker 9: million dollars that I'm earning at the moment, so I
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Speaker 9: better backflip away from that one. They can't get rid
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Speaker 9: of me.
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Speaker 11: I misspoke.
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Speaker 9: I didn't deliberately say it, but actually in those two
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Speaker 9: statements that she's made within about twenty four forty eight hours,
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Speaker 9: it just highlights the ridiculous nature of her approach, the
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Speaker 9: contempt with which she treats the Australian Parliament, and quite frankly,
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Speaker 9: I'm not sure who she is representative of. She's got
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Speaker 9: three and a half years to go, can't come quickly enough.
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Speaker 7: Just never forget though she was the deputy Leader of
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Speaker 7: the Greens and all those nutbags in there voted for
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Speaker 7: her to be the deputy Leader of the Greens. How
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Speaker 7: do all unbelievable.
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Speaker 3: These characters who you know, I mean, the people representing
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Speaker 3: Australians in the Senate and in the Parliament should be
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Speaker 3: the cream of the crop, should be the smartest people
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Speaker 3: in this country. Yep, show from diverse backgrounds, but they
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Speaker 3: should be smart and we just don't see that Jason
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Speaker 3: Deputy Leader.
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Speaker 7: It's just unbelievable.
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Speaker 2: Look, she's getting what she wants though. The tragedy here
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Speaker 2: is she's getting a lot of publicity.
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Speaker 3: All right, Well, before we go, just a final quick topic.
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Speaker 3: The Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke. It's been revealed front
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Speaker 3: page or at least in the Daily Telegraph today. He's
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Speaker 3: one of a number of labor politicians who went on
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Speaker 3: a study tour to the Palestinian territories funded by an
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Speaker 3: anti Israel lobby group. APAN that's the Australian Palasine Advocacy
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Speaker 3: Network has accused Israel of genocide. It was a posed
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Speaker 3: to her Musk being categorized as a terror organization. And
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Speaker 3: that's just the tip of the iceberg. I don't have
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Speaker 3: time to show you all the offensive remarks that its
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Speaker 3: leadership have made Basil. It also looks like some of
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Speaker 3: the labor funds went into this trip as well.
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Speaker 2: Not a good look for Tony Burke.
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Speaker 9: No, not a good look. And it's pretty straightforward, isn't it.
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Speaker 9: If you're not anti Israel, you're not taking trips paid
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Speaker 9: for by a group which effectively is AINTI ISRAELI.
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Speaker 1: It's as simple as that.
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Speaker 9: So it's time that a number of the members of
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Speaker 9: the Labor government came clean on where they really stand
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Speaker 9: on this issue. It's not simple, we know that, but
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Speaker 9: we do understand that what happened over twelve months ago
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Speaker 9: was the worst loss of life for Jewish people since
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Speaker 9: the Holocaust, and there are still a great number of
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Speaker 9: hostages being held. We'll released those hostages. Let's move on,
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Speaker 9: and let's hear the labor government call for that.
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Speaker 7: And they've got their money's worthd in they out of
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Speaker 7: the trip, cost them a few airfares. And look what
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Speaker 7: Tony Burk's done for the cause.
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Speaker 3: Hey Eiggs now the Home Affairs minister. And yet they
20:32
Speaker 3: sacked Mike Bazulo as secretary. Just appalling, all right, Jason Morrison,
20:37
Speaker 3: bazle zemplist, thank you both very much. Say now to
20:40
Speaker 3: more on my investigation into the shocking censorship of pro
20:44
Speaker 3: Jewish and Israel content at SPS. The taxpayer funded broadcaster
20:49
Speaker 3: refused to publish, or remove from online or edit it
20:54
Speaker 3: interviews that they thought were too supportive of Israel. One
20:58
Speaker 3: was with a family member of the current hostage being
21:01
Speaker 3: held in Gaza. That interview was completed, but it never
21:06
Speaker 3: went to air.
21:07
Speaker 2: It is beyond shocking.
21:09
Speaker 3: Imagine silencing the family member of a current hostage, and
21:13
Speaker 3: that family member, by the way, is going to come
21:15
Speaker 3: on my show on Monday night and speak about this.
21:18
Speaker 3: There needs to be a federal government investigation into what
21:21
Speaker 3: has gone on here. In another example, an internationally renowned
21:25
Speaker 3: activist fighting antisemitism, she had her interview edited, then another
21:30
Speaker 3: interview with Richard Kemp.
21:33
Speaker 2: It was initially.
21:33
Speaker 3: Broadcast on SBS radio, then it was deleted completely from
21:39
Speaker 3: all SBS platforms just a few hours later. And he's
21:43
Speaker 3: going to join me live right now. The Jewish journalist
21:46
Speaker 3: who did those interviews I meet Rehak is now seeking
21:49
Speaker 3: legal advice.
21:51
Speaker 2: But it shouldn't be up to him. It needs to
21:52
Speaker 2: be up to.
21:53
Speaker 3: All of us to hold this taxpayer funded broadcaster to account. Meanwhile,
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Speaker 3: Israel has uncovered evidence that six Al Jazeera journalists are
22:05
Speaker 3: terrorist operatives from Hamas and Palestinian Islamic g Had. One
22:10
Speaker 3: of the journalists is said to have served as the
22:12
Speaker 3: head of a rocket launching squad.
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Speaker 2: I mean, listen to that.
22:17
Speaker 3: One of the Al Jazeera journalists served as the head
22:20
Speaker 3: of a rocket launching squad. Another was said to be
22:24
Speaker 3: the deputy of a propaganda unit in Islamic g Had.
22:27
Speaker 3: One was a sniper, another was a training company commander
22:31
Speaker 3: who was then wounded in an Israeli air strike. These
22:36
Speaker 3: terrorists weren't bringing you the news. They were bringing you
22:40
Speaker 3: propaganda straight from terror organizations, yet the mainstream media lapped
22:46
Speaker 3: it up because they were hungry to accuse Israel of
22:50
Speaker 3: war crimes, and when Israel has killed terrorists, media outlets
22:55
Speaker 3: have complained that journalists.
22:57
Speaker 2: Were being targeted.
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Speaker 3: I asked Esper today whether they would now be cutting
23:01
Speaker 3: ties with our Jazeira no response.
23:05
Speaker 2: To these questions or to discuss all of this.
23:08
Speaker 3: Let's bring in now live from Israel. Retired British commander
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Speaker 3: Richard Kemp, Colonel, thank you very much for joining me.
23:16
Speaker 3: Now you've led British forces into a raq in Afghanistan.
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Speaker 2: Your views, anyone would argue, deserve to be hurt.
23:25
Speaker 3: What is your reaction to my revelation that the SBS
23:29
Speaker 3: deleted an interview with you because you were too supportive
23:32
Speaker 3: of Israel.
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Speaker 12: Well, unfortunately, it's the reality of so many large scale
23:38
Speaker 12: and influential broadcasts and other media outs as well that
23:43
Speaker 12: they want to bias their output against Israel. It's not
23:48
Speaker 12: a question of just deleting people who are speaking in
23:53
Speaker 12: support of Israel or in support of the truth and reality,
23:56
Speaker 12: but also they want their primary emphasis is on anti
24:00
Speaker 12: Israel bias, and people like Gues, SBS, the BBC over
24:04
Speaker 12: here in the UK and other broadcasting organizations. They basically
24:11
Speaker 12: fuel her mass. They encourage he mass, they give strength
24:15
Speaker 12: to her mass, they prolong the conflict.
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Speaker 11: And it's all.
24:20
Speaker 12: By supporting her massa's narrative, whether wittingly or unwittingly, that's
24:24
Speaker 12: what they do.
24:24
Speaker 11: And it's the same with people.
24:26
Speaker 12: Organizations like the United Nations and the International Court of Justice,
24:30
Speaker 12: the International Criminal Court, they're all strengthening her mass.
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Speaker 11: They might as well be part.
24:34
Speaker 12: Of the mass with the bias that they show towards
24:39
Speaker 12: har Mass and against Israel.
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Speaker 3: I understand a scenario where, say, you know, Vladimir Putin
24:46
Speaker 3: was being interviewed, and so the interview was required to
24:49
Speaker 3: ask very tough questions. But Israel is an ally of Australia,
24:55
Speaker 3: of America, of the United States. So can you understand this, SAI,
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Speaker 3: where you, as a farm a British commander, a distinguished
25:05
Speaker 3: war veteran, where you're not allowed to express your viewpoint
25:08
Speaker 3: on a public broadcaster in Australia because you were too
25:11
Speaker 3: supportive of one of our allies.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, I can understand it.
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Speaker 12: I disagree with it, of course, but I was actually
25:19
Speaker 12: asked some quite tough questions during the SBS interview, and
25:22
Speaker 12: quite rightly too, that they're entitled and they should probe
25:25
Speaker 12: people's views, whoever, whatever their background, whoever they are. But
25:30
Speaker 12: if they want, if they do want to have if
25:32
Speaker 12: they do want their listeners to have a balanced perspective
25:35
Speaker 12: of Israel and of the conflict there and of the
25:38
Speaker 12: different mechanics there, then they need to include people like me.
25:42
Speaker 12: And you know, I don't demand a right to be
25:44
Speaker 12: to have a platform. They invited me to be interviewed
25:47
Speaker 12: in the first place. I didn't ask for it. But
25:50
Speaker 12: I've got objective experience. I'm not Israeli, I'm not Jewish.
25:54
Speaker 12: I have a great deal of experience of armed conflict
25:57
Speaker 12: around the world. I've been in Israel for most of
25:59
Speaker 12: the last year, into Gaza with the idea if I've
26:02
Speaker 12: seen the reality of what's happening. I've studied her massing
26:05
Speaker 12: great depth, and I think my perspective, you know, with modesty,
26:10
Speaker 12: I think my perspective is probably worth hearing, which I
26:12
Speaker 12: assume is the reason they asked for me to join
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Speaker 12: in the first place, although they obviously didn't like what
26:17
Speaker 12: they heard.
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Speaker 3: A very good point an apologies, I thought you were
26:21
Speaker 3: still in Israel, because when I was there a couple
26:22
Speaker 3: of weeks ago, I interviewed you on the ground, but
26:25
Speaker 3: you're now back in London.
26:27
Speaker 2: Just before we move on to other.
26:28
Speaker 3: Topics, Given SBS is a publicly funded broadcaster, do you
26:33
Speaker 3: think there should be an investigation into the extent of
26:36
Speaker 3: this censorship of pro Israel vices.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, I do.
26:41
Speaker 12: I think if if any organization, any media organization, is
26:46
Speaker 12: funded by taxpayers money, the taxpayer should have an objective
26:52
Speaker 12: or the media organization should be speaking objectively. They shouldn't
26:57
Speaker 12: be censoring people who just don't happen to suit their
27:00
Speaker 12: their private agenda. The same applies as I mentioned to
27:03
Speaker 12: organizations like the BBC. There will been numerous investigations into
27:07
Speaker 12: the BBC finding horrific, horrific anti Israel bias over many years,
27:12
Speaker 12: and what's the result. Zero as investigations. There's not public
27:16
Speaker 12: or formal investigations yet. There should be, but all of
27:20
Speaker 12: the investigators this bias, and the BBC simply brushes aside.
27:25
Speaker 11: And I'm sure FBS will do the same.
27:27
Speaker 2: Yeah.
27:27
Speaker 3: I want to ask you about this FBI investigation into
27:30
Speaker 3: the leaking of at least two classified documents to Social media.
27:35
Speaker 3: This detailed Israel's preparations for a potential strike on Iran
27:41
Speaker 3: in retaliation for the ballistic missiles a couple of weeks ago,
27:45
Speaker 3: maybe three weeks ago. Now, Richard, how concerning is this
27:50
Speaker 3: leak of classified material? It looks we don't know for certain,
27:54
Speaker 3: it looks like it has come from the US end.
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Speaker 12: Yeah, I think it's deeply concerning, and it does show
28:01
Speaker 12: I think it was either a desire among certain individuals
28:06
Speaker 12: within the within the US government organizations to do damage
28:13
Speaker 12: to Israel, either that or gross misjudgment about what is
28:17
Speaker 12: the right thing in relation to trying to trying to
28:23
Speaker 12: as they continually discuss it, de escalate the situation. But
28:27
Speaker 12: it goes beyond that kind of misjudgment and the direct
28:30
Speaker 12: damage of this leak, which is certainly going to be
28:33
Speaker 12: damaging Israel. Provides a huge amount of intelligence to the
28:38
Speaker 12: United States, as it does to Australia and the UK
28:42
Speaker 12: and other countries in relation to threats to our countries.
28:46
Speaker 12: And you know, when I was in Australia a few
28:48
Speaker 12: years back, it came to light that there was a
28:51
Speaker 12: terrorist plan and al Qaeda plan, I think, to hijack
28:54
Speaker 12: an aircraft from Sydney Airport and crash it, and that
28:59
Speaker 12: was stopped by Israeli intelligence. So if there's damage to
29:04
Speaker 12: the intelligence relationship through leakage, then of course that puts
29:08
Speaker 12: in jeopardy the continued flow of intelligence from Israel. I
29:11
Speaker 12: don't think actually Israel would ever, no matter what any
29:14
Speaker 12: country does to it, would ever deny intelligence, life saving
29:19
Speaker 12: intelligence to any country.
29:20
Speaker 11: But it's potentially very damaging.
29:23
Speaker 3: Look, we have been expecting Israel to retaliate against those
29:27
Speaker 3: Iranian strikes for a couple of weeks now it still
29:30
Speaker 3: hasn't happened. Is your sense that Israel was waiting for
29:34
Speaker 3: this US THAD missile defense system to be up and
29:37
Speaker 3: running or do you think there's a possibility And I
29:41
Speaker 3: think it was that they were waiting for the THAD
29:43
Speaker 3: Missile defense system to be up and running before they
29:46
Speaker 3: launched an attack on Iran. But do you think there
29:48
Speaker 3: is a possibility that they could be waiting until after
29:50
Speaker 3: the US election.
29:52
Speaker 12: I think all of those things and other factors come
29:55
Speaker 12: into play here. And Prime Minister Netanya, who is the
29:59
Speaker 12: person who will make the ultimate decision with the authority
30:02
Speaker 12: of the Security Cabinet on exactly when and what actions
30:06
Speaker 12: to take. I think Israel knows what it's going to do.
30:09
Speaker 12: But all of these different factors, like making sure there
30:11
Speaker 12: is enough defense in Israel against a potential large scale
30:15
Speaker 12: Iranian retaliation does come into play, as of course does
30:20
Speaker 12: the US election. And you know, Israel has been extremely
30:26
Speaker 12: effective so far in this war to some extent that
30:29
Speaker 12: is due to US support with weaponry, etc.
30:31
Speaker 11: As well as defense systems, and of.
30:34
Speaker 12: Course that it's therefore important that Israel doesn't do anything
30:38
Speaker 12: to seriously undermine its relationship with the US, particularly at
30:42
Speaker 12: this critical point before an election. I think they may
30:45
Speaker 12: have greater freedom to act when they see the outcome
30:48
Speaker 12: of the election, So potentially it'll be after that, but
30:52
Speaker 12: I wouldn't nor would I discount it happening at any time.
30:55
Speaker 12: You know, all these different there's so many different factors
30:58
Speaker 12: involve which week about. But the Israeli Prime Minister does
31:03
Speaker 12: and as far as I can see so far, he's
31:05
Speaker 12: been calling all the right shots in this war.
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Speaker 2: YEP.
31:08
Speaker 3: Couldn't agree with you more, all right, Colonel Richard Kemp,
31:11
Speaker 3: really appreciate your time tonight.
31:13
Speaker 2: Thank you.
31:15
Speaker 3: After the break, China ramps up attacks on Australia with
31:18
Speaker 3: accusations of hate crimes or how will the Prime Minister respond? Plus,
31:23
Speaker 3: the wife of Nomad restaurant ownA speaks out as her
31:26
Speaker 3: husband face Port today. We're also going to cover those
31:29
Speaker 3: desperate accusations from the Democrats that Trump liked.
31:32
Speaker 2: Hitler.
31:33
Speaker 3: Trump's former attorney general would join me a bit later
31:36
Speaker 3: on the show.
31:37
Speaker 2: That's all coming up, welcome back.
31:44
Speaker 3: Well, China has hit out at the Albanezy government, accusing
31:47
Speaker 3: it of systematic racism and hate crimes, seriously violating the
31:52
Speaker 3: rights of refugees and immigrants and indigenous people with vulnerable
31:57
Speaker 3: living conditions. This came after Australia is you and Envoy
32:01
Speaker 3: cord on Beijing Beijing to do more about the massi
32:04
Speaker 3: abuse of wigas in Shingiang, and we've hardly heard the
32:08
Speaker 3: actual ministers in the Albanezi government raised the issue of
32:12
Speaker 3: the wigas in Shingxiang their entire time in office. Well,
32:16
Speaker 3: the Prime Minister had this to say today.
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Speaker 13: We'll always stand up for Australia's interests and when it
32:24
Speaker 13: comes to China, we've said we'll cooperate where we can,
32:28
Speaker 13: we'll disagree where we must, and we'll engage in our
32:31
Speaker 13: national interest and we've raised issues of human rights with China.
32:35
Speaker 13: We've done that in a consistent and clear way.
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Speaker 3: Okay, let's bring in former Liberal Minister Gary Hargrave and
32:43
Speaker 3: associate editor at The Australian Graham Lloyd.
32:46
Speaker 2: Welcome to you both. Gary.
32:49
Speaker 3: This is ering a rare criticism from China because the
32:53
Speaker 3: Albanzi government has taken a very different approach from the
32:56
Speaker 3: United States in the past two and a half years.
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Speaker 14: Yeah, but it's probably off the back of the Australian
33:06
Speaker 14: government negotiating Pat Conroy's negotiation for seven billion dollars worth
33:10
Speaker 14: of missiles. I mean, I think this is just their
33:14
Speaker 14: little shot back at us, and it's just purely them
33:18
Speaker 14: reminding us that they have the power to decide whether
33:22
Speaker 14: they want our lobsters or our wine.
33:24
Speaker 1: So this could be.
33:26
Speaker 14: Another set of problems that have just recently been fixed
33:29
Speaker 14: on the trade front. Look, there's no doubt the wig
33:32
Speaker 14: applight is awful and what has happened there is genuinely
33:36
Speaker 14: dreadful and it's reasonable, as the Premister said, for Australia
33:40
Speaker 14: to call it out. But I think this is just
33:42
Speaker 14: this usual kind of diplomacy that China's decided.
33:46
Speaker 1: Oh well, you've gone and bought missiles. It could be
33:48
Speaker 1: aimed at us.
33:49
Speaker 14: Because no one knows really where the missiles are going,
33:51
Speaker 14: we suspect aim towards China. So we'll just say, oh,
33:54
Speaker 14: you're dreadful to indigenous Australians, so you've got human rights abuses.
33:58
Speaker 14: Don't pick on us over the vegas. So look, I
34:01
Speaker 14: think we just have to stand our ground. If we don't, Charie,
34:03
Speaker 14: this is the problem with a lot of what we
34:05
Speaker 14: do between Australia and China. If we actually fold because
34:08
Speaker 14: they have a go at us, they'll have no respect
34:10
Speaker 14: for us. We have to stand our ground on the
34:12
Speaker 14: issues we know are important.
34:14
Speaker 1: Pretty simple, Graham.
34:16
Speaker 3: What do you think about the fact that people like
34:19
Speaker 3: Foreign Minister Penny Wong, when she was in opposition, she
34:22
Speaker 3: raised human rights issues often, very rarely does she raise
34:26
Speaker 3: them now, despite pledging to do so when in opposition,
34:30
Speaker 3: We have seen this very muted response. Shod's good that
34:34
Speaker 3: our trade relationship is back on track with China, But
34:37
Speaker 3: I mean you see far more criticism of our ally
34:40
Speaker 3: Israel than you do of the human rights issues going
34:44
Speaker 3: on with the wigs here.
34:47
Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, that's right, Charri, and certainly all of the
34:51
Speaker 15: actions of the Albanesi government have been geared towards trying
34:55
Speaker 15: to plicate China and get back sort of the crumbs
34:58
Speaker 15: off the table that we're taking in a way. But
35:01
Speaker 15: what would surprise a lot of people is China and
35:04
Speaker 15: other groups in the United Nations, they portray a picture
35:08
Speaker 15: of Australia as a colonial country that treats its indigenous
35:13
Speaker 15: community in a terrible fashion and sends its soldiers overseas
35:18
Speaker 15: to fight and indulge in all these awful war crimes.
35:22
Speaker 15: And this is a narrative that's played out against us
35:25
Speaker 15: routinely that we're probably unaware of. And as we have
35:28
Speaker 15: discussions in the media here about all these issues to
35:31
Speaker 15: do with war crimes and soldiers that is all harvested
35:35
Speaker 15: and deployed against us in the international diplomacy. So really
35:39
Speaker 15: there needs to be in across the board grown up
35:42
Speaker 15: understanding of how this all plays out, and certainly we
35:46
Speaker 15: must do everything to call out China for its human
35:49
Speaker 15: rights abuses. And it's astonishing that they would really try
35:52
Speaker 15: to mount the case that there's an equivalence with how
35:56
Speaker 15: we behave both here and overseas.
35:59
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, let's have a look at Nomad because the
36:02
Speaker 3: now disgraced owner has pled guilty today in court to
36:07
Speaker 3: displaying a Nazi swastika at a pro Palestinian rally in Sydney.
36:11
Speaker 3: Our Yasbeck fronted Downing Center local court today.
36:15
Speaker 16: Here's what happened an esteemed restaurateur whose success is owed
36:19
Speaker 16: to good decision making. Whether this choice was regrettable is
36:24
Speaker 16: a question only Alan Yasbik can answer.
36:26
Speaker 1: Alan, do you regret your actions?
36:28
Speaker 11: Respectfully?
36:29
Speaker 2: No comment, no comment.
36:31
Speaker 16: The fifty six year old today pleading guilty.
36:35
Speaker 2: Gary.
36:36
Speaker 3: His wife is imploring customers to return. She says she's
36:40
Speaker 3: furious over her husband's actions and claims that he's no
36:43
Speaker 3: longer involved in the management of the business. Do you
36:46
Speaker 3: think this is going to win back any customers?
36:52
Speaker 14: I don't know, but I got to say I thought,
36:54
Speaker 14: respectfully no comment is not the way to go. I
36:57
Speaker 14: think he needed to actually purge himself completely of the
37:01
Speaker 14: offensive nature of his decision making a week or three
37:04
Speaker 14: or whatever it was ago. There is actually no place
37:08
Speaker 14: at all for anybody who does these sorts of things.
37:11
Speaker 14: The anti anti Semitism is just rife on our universities,
37:16
Speaker 14: and we can't allow people, can't allow people in the
37:18
Speaker 14: business community to perpetuate that. You know, Shari, this is
37:22
Speaker 14: just not a good look and if he loses his
37:24
Speaker 14: business over it, then his wife will know exactly why
37:28
Speaker 14: it happened. The bloke needed to actually apologize, He actually
37:32
Speaker 14: needed to make it clear that he was angry at
37:35
Speaker 14: himself because people are angry at him, and until he
37:38
Speaker 14: actually man's up and, as I said, purges himself of
37:41
Speaker 14: this offensive conduct. I don't know whether a lot of
37:44
Speaker 14: people are going to rush back there. I mean, I
37:45
Speaker 14: haven't been a Woolworth and spend any money since they
37:48
Speaker 14: turned their back on Australia day. I'm not Jewish, but
37:51
Speaker 14: I'm very supportive of what is happening in Israel and
37:54
Speaker 14: very very angry about what is being done to Jews
37:57
Speaker 14: in general around the world. This bloke really should hang
37:59
Speaker 14: his head in shame, and customers will vote with their wallet,
38:02
Speaker 14: That's all I'll say.
38:05
Speaker 2: And Graham, it wasn't a one off.
38:07
Speaker 3: There have been reports in the newspapers that several years
38:11
Speaker 3: ago he had water bomb balloons outside a synagogue, so
38:16
Speaker 3: he's obviously a long term pattern of behavior here.
38:24
Speaker 15: It's hard to understand, isn't it. What goes on in
38:26
Speaker 15: people's heads. But it's no surprise that his wife is
38:29
Speaker 15: now traumatized that the state of affairs, he's blown the
38:32
Speaker 15: family business up, and she's concerned about that, probably as
38:37
Speaker 15: much as anything else. But you've got to have that
38:39
Speaker 15: sneaking suspicion that she knew all along what he thought
38:42
Speaker 15: about everything. It doesn't really ring true that this has
38:45
Speaker 15: all come as a bit of surprise, and it's very traumatic.
38:48
Speaker 15: It certainly will be traumatic for the wallet and that's
38:51
Speaker 15: perhaps how it should be right.
38:54
Speaker 3: Thank you both for your support on that one as well.
38:56
Speaker 3: Gary Hargrave, Graham Lloyd.
38:57
Speaker 2: Good to see you both.
39:00
Speaker 3: Now still to come concerns over Kamala's performance Today at
39:03
Speaker 3: the CNN town Hall, I'm going to speak with Trump's
39:06
Speaker 3: former acting Attorney general shortly plus the fallout from the
39:10
Speaker 3: Energy regulator's damning admission that Labour's renewable energy plans won't
39:15
Speaker 3: bring down power prices.
39:17
Speaker 2: Cam Reddin will join me from Canberra next.
39:25
Speaker 9: Well.
39:25
Speaker 2: When Peter Dutton announced.
39:27
Speaker 3: His plan for nuclear energy, the Albanzi government ordered a
39:30
Speaker 3: snap inquiry designed to expose flaws in his vision, and
39:35
Speaker 3: today was the start of the inquiry. We saw major
39:38
Speaker 3: agencies aemo, CSIRO and the Department give evidence. So just
39:43
Speaker 3: how much damage did this achieve politically for Dutton? Well
39:47
Speaker 3: joining me now is Sky News political reporter Cam Reddin.
39:51
Speaker 2: Cam.
39:51
Speaker 3: So this inquiry was basically a political hit by the
39:54
Speaker 3: Government on Dutton's nuclear energy proposal.
39:58
Speaker 2: Did it achieve its purpose?
39:59
Speaker 3: Whether were their concerns from the agencies today about the.
40:03
Speaker 17: Plan that was certainly the design Sharry, I think they've
40:07
Speaker 17: caught a few blows, but perhaps not a knockout one.
40:10
Speaker 17: And what we really learned today one of the key
40:12
Speaker 17: takeouts from this nearly eight nine hours of inquiries here
40:15
Speaker 17: in Canberra was that the main opponent, or the biggest
40:18
Speaker 17: hurdle that the coalition might have to clear, isn't the
40:21
Speaker 17: Labor Party. It might not even be skeptics of nuclear energy.
40:24
Speaker 17: It's the bureaucracy and the red tape. The energy regulated
40:27
Speaker 17: today as part of these hearings revealed that they think
40:30
Speaker 17: even in a best case scenario, it could take between
40:33
Speaker 17: eight and ten years to design all the rules and regulations,
40:38
Speaker 17: the big system and network of red tape that would
40:40
Speaker 17: underpin a nuclear energy industry just to get it off
40:44
Speaker 17: the ground. So think about that eight to ten years
40:47
Speaker 17: of writing the documents of rules, of regulations, of permits,
40:51
Speaker 17: and all the different forms that need to be filled
40:53
Speaker 17: out before a single brick could be laid down to
40:56
Speaker 17: build the first reactor. Now we know under the coalition's plan,
41:00
Speaker 17: they believe they can get nuclear into the energy grid
41:02
Speaker 17: by twenty thirty five. That's when they think the first
41:05
Speaker 17: one can be up and running. According to the regulator,
41:07
Speaker 17: though they think they might not be able to even
41:10
Speaker 17: get the red tape done by twenty thirty five. So
41:13
Speaker 17: for all the hurdles that the Coalition might need to
41:16
Speaker 17: leap over in order to get nuclear power up and going, if,
41:18
Speaker 17: of course, it wins the next election, one of the
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Speaker 17: biggest ones might be getting the bureaucracy to feed up.
41:23
Speaker 17: They need to go pretty quick smart. If that's the
41:26
Speaker 17: kind of hurdle they're facing.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, sounds like it. Cam. You've been on the ground
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Speaker 2: for the Queensland election.
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Speaker 3: What's your prediction for where things are headed on Saturday?
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Speaker 3: Given the polls have been tightening this week.
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Speaker 17: Yeah, and they always tend to tighten a few days
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Speaker 17: out from election day. Show it should be enough to
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Speaker 17: still see the Liberal National Party home everywhere I went
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Speaker 17: for the ten days or so I spent in Queensland
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Speaker 17: and we went up the north. I was following David
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Speaker 17: chris A fully around through Townsville, even out to long
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Speaker 17: Reach in the middle of back Queensland. There were two
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Speaker 17: issues I think that really cut through more than anything.
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Speaker 17: One was the issue of crime. You can see why
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Speaker 17: the LNP has made this the bedrock really of its campaign.
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Speaker 17: Almost everywhere we went, almost everyone had a story, whether
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Speaker 17: it was their own personal one, or someone they worked with,
42:11
Speaker 17: someone they knew who'd had their castle and their business
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Speaker 17: broken into. It was just everywhere, and when that takes old,
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Speaker 17: it's hard for a government to hold on. The Other
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Speaker 17: one that I thought was quite surprising was the issue
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Speaker 17: of fifty cent fares. It is so universally popular everywhere
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Speaker 17: you go, so popular in fact, the l ANDP dropped
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Speaker 17: any opposition to it and said if we win, we
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Speaker 17: will keep fifty cent public transport fares around as well.
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Speaker 17: Even though Sharia voters are giving labor credits saying we
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Speaker 17: like the idea of cheap of public transport, I'm not
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Speaker 17: sure it's enough that they will vote for them too,
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Speaker 17: So the polls still have the l ANDP in front.
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Speaker 17: It may not be the smashing that some people are predicting,
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Speaker 17: but barring a last minute disaster, the LNP should cruise
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Speaker 17: to victory on Saturday night.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's looking like a certainty that the next Premier
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Speaker 3: of Queensland will be David Chris if Wooley Cameron.
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Speaker 2: And thank you so much for that excellent analysis.
43:02
Speaker 3: And after the break, the US election campaign takes another turn.
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Speaker 3: The jabs at Donald Trump coming thick and fast.
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Speaker 2: Now former US.
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Speaker 3: Acting Attorney General will join me to discuss Kamala's last
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Speaker 3: ditch effort to win over voters. Stay tuned, welcome back,
43:22
Speaker 3: and let's bring in now Donald Trump's former acting US
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Speaker 3: Attorney General, Matthew Whittaker. Matthew, welcome back to the show. Look,
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Speaker 3: you're traveling around with Team Trump. You were in Pennsylvania today.
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Speaker 3: I understand what's the plan for the final countdown for
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Speaker 3: the Trump campaign.
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Speaker 18: Well, it's good to be with you again. And you
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Speaker 18: know what I can tell you is we are not
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Speaker 18: taking anything for granted and we're going to sprint through
43:48
Speaker 18: the finish. Here we are on a bus tour across Pennsylvania.
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Speaker 18: Great crowds and really a lot of enthusiasm. One of
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Speaker 18: the things we're trying to make sure folks do is
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Speaker 18: vote early and then so we can focus on those
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Speaker 18: that don't vote in every election. Unlike Australia where everybody
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Speaker 18: is mandated to vote. You know, we have people that
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Speaker 18: almost half of our fellow citizens that don't show up
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Speaker 18: and vote every year reliably for president. And so we're
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Speaker 18: making sure that we were the reliable voters. We're banking
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Speaker 18: those votes, and then we're focused on those you know,
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Speaker 18: sometimes sometimes vote, sometimes not voters.
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Speaker 3: Look, the seven battleground states are really crucial for the
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Speaker 3: outcome of this election. Clearly you and the former president
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Speaker 3: are spending a lot of time there in the final
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Speaker 3: fourteen days. What's the reaction been like on the ground
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Speaker 3: in Pennsylvania. The polls have Donald Trump just ahead around
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Speaker 3: one point one percent in the seven battleground states on average.
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Speaker 3: Do you think this is going to be enough to
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Speaker 3: get him over the line, Well, it just depends.
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Speaker 18: You know, we've had inaccurate polling in the last two
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Speaker 18: presidential elections in twenty sixteen, twenty eighteen, I mean in
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Speaker 18: twenty twenty and so what you're seeing is a is
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Speaker 18: a cautiousness because we don't know whether these polls are
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Speaker 18: accurate this year or whether they're off again. You know,
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Speaker 18: typically Trump voters are hard to find, harder to find
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Speaker 18: for polsters than Democrat voters.
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Speaker 1: But you know, I've been to all of the swing states.
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Speaker 18: Most recently, I've been in Georgia, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, and Michigan.
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Speaker 1: And you know, what I'm seeing is a real.
45:27
Speaker 18: Desire from those that support Donald Trump and those that
45:30
Speaker 18: are interested in Donald Trump in making sure that he
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Speaker 18: is the one in the White House in January. Because
45:37
Speaker 18: you know, the issues, whether it's the border, the southern border,
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Speaker 18: whether it's national security, whether it is energy policy, whether
45:44
Speaker 18: it is law and order issue that I care a
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Speaker 18: lot about, or whether it's the economy, all of those issues,
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Speaker 18: Donald Trump is very strong and I think a lot
45:52
Speaker 18: of voters think he is the one that can fix
45:54
Speaker 18: these problems that really, quite frankly, have been caused by
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Speaker 18: Kamala Harris and Joe Biden.
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Speaker 3: Wellma rus I did another town hall with CNN with
46:03
Speaker 3: Addison Cooper today. She was asked yet again why she's
46:06
Speaker 3: changed positions on some issues.
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Speaker 2: Have a look, can you.
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Speaker 4: Talk a little bit about how your positions have shifted and.
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Speaker 2: Why sure, and thank you so.
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Speaker 8: First of all, on fracking, I've been very clear we
46:19
Speaker 8: kind of dispense with this in twenty twenty, I am
46:21
Speaker 8: not going to bandfracking. I did not as vice president.
46:24
Speaker 8: In fact, as vice president, I cast the tie breaking
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Speaker 8: vote that now has opened up more fracking leases. My
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Speaker 8: value on the issue of what we need to do
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Speaker 8: to invest in a clean energy economy and a clean
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Speaker 8: energy future has not changed. But frankly, I now have
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Speaker 8: the experience perspective of having been vice president.
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Speaker 3: Matt, what did you think of her answers on why
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Speaker 3: she's changed positions on major policy areas.
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Speaker 18: Yeah, well, I've never seen a major party candidate debate
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Speaker 18: themselves alone.
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Speaker 1: It's really quite extraordinary.
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Speaker 18: She can't be trusted on so many issues you know
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Speaker 18: that the American people care about. Here in Pennsylvania, a
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Speaker 18: major state that has a lot of jobs that depend
47:08
Speaker 18: on fracking, the folks I'm talking to that are on
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Speaker 18: the ground do not believe that she can be trusted
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Speaker 18: on this. I mean, she was a strong proponent when
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Speaker 18: she ran in twenty nineteen for ending fracking. Her campaign
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Speaker 18: and even herself have been all over the board. You know,
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Speaker 18: Kamala Harris is unfortunately one of those politicians that will
47:27
Speaker 18: say anything to anybody in order to try to win
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Speaker 18: an election. But she just can't be trusted on this
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Speaker 18: issue in so many others.
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Speaker 3: We've played the comments already on the show tonight where
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Speaker 3: she accused Donald Trump of being a fascist. She repeated
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Speaker 3: those accusations today. What do you think this says about
47:45
Speaker 3: her mindset a couple of weeks out.
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Speaker 18: It just shows, you know, that she's willing to take
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Speaker 18: cheap political hits at Donald Trump. I mean, no one
47:55
Speaker 18: believes that Donald Trump is a fascist because I'll tell
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Speaker 18: you what, he was a president of the United States
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Speaker 18: for four years and really took no action that would
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Speaker 18: suggests that he wants to lead us to something like
48:07
Speaker 18: Mussolini's Italy. So you know, I just I think that
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Speaker 18: is just a cheap political slur that Kamala Harris is
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Speaker 18: trying to throw against President Trump in order to steal
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Speaker 18: this election.
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Speaker 1: But she's just not going to make it happen.
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Speaker 3: All right, Matt Whitaker, thank you very much for your
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Speaker 3: time in joining us from the campaign trail.
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Speaker 2: Now that's it for me.
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Speaker 3: On Monday, I'm going to be joined by a family
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Speaker 3: member of a hostage in Gaza who did the interview
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Speaker 3: with SBS, but they refuse to run it. This is
48:36
Speaker 3: going to steamroll into a major story censorship from a
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Speaker 3: public broadcaster, So tune in Monday at eight up now
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Speaker 3: Paul Murray