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A Dance with Dimensions: The Elevator Game · PNW Haunts & Homicides

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  Speaker 1: Hi Caitlin, Hi Cassie, Hi creepy people. Hello, we had
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  Speaker 1: so much fun hanging out in our costumes that we
• 0:12
  Speaker 1: just decided that we would give you another bonus and
• 0:15
  Speaker 1: don't leave them on hang out do bonus stuff. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: because it's Halloween season and we think you deserve it.
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  Speaker 1: You would deserve it. You worked hard to get to
• 0:26
  Speaker 1: the spooky season. It's right, and we're rewarding you. And
• 0:33
  Speaker 1: I said that right the first time. M hm cheers.
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  Speaker 1: So we've been drinking wine. I mean like a glass,
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  Speaker 1: not too much, like just you know, five of these
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  Speaker 1: little tiny glasses.
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  Speaker 2: Fine, I think we've got like a half a bottle
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  Speaker 2: between us.
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  Speaker 1: So I feel like it's not that bad. Oh, nothing
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  Speaker 1: too crazy. He's just trying to make excuses for my
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  Speaker 1: mouth where it's not working. I mean it happens fast, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: with the mouth. Where's it happens real fast. Well, if
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  Speaker 1: you don't know who we are, this is PNW Haunts
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  Speaker 1: and Homicides. Oh right. We chat about true crime, the paranormal,
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  Speaker 1: anything spooky in the Pacific Northwest and sometimes we do bonuses. Yeah. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's what today is. That's that's what we're doing. So
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  Speaker 1: I mentioned this to Caitlin a while back, like not
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  Speaker 1: that long ago, it was pretty recent, like fifteen minutes ago.
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  Speaker 1: It was a longer ago than that, like in between
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  Speaker 1: a long time and fifteen minutes. Yeah, but she didn't
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  Speaker 1: know what this was at first when I mentioned it. No,
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  Speaker 1: but then I told her it was kind of looped
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  Speaker 1: in with a true crime story and she's like, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I know that. I know exactly what you're talking about.
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  Speaker 1: I know that ish Yeah. So I was like, well,
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  Speaker 1: let me shittily explain it to you in like one sentence,
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  Speaker 1: and that was cool. It suffeist for then. Yeah, but
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  Speaker 1: I was like, well, what if I actually go deeper
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  Speaker 1: into this and tell her all of the ins and
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  Speaker 1: outs of the Elevator game, A.
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  Speaker 2: Game I would simply never play. I feel not even.
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  Speaker 1: At the Benson. I don't know. I think it's big enough.
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  Speaker 1: You need like ten floors. Oh, how tall is the Benson.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think it's anywhere near that tall. I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: look pretty tall from the outside. Okay, well I'll look
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  Speaker 1: go look it up. I want to know. Oh, it's
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  Speaker 1: twelve stories. Okay, I'm like, it went it went away off.
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  Speaker 1: You're totally right, I don't know why. I was like,
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  Speaker 1: it's like three stories. We did only go to two stories,
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  Speaker 1: like we went to the first level and then the
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  Speaker 1: second level, so we didn't quite get to see all
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  Speaker 1: of the building yet. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's actually technically a thirteen story hotel.
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  Speaker 1: No way. Yeah, I want to go do the Elevator
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  Speaker 1: game at the Benson c It's totally fine. I'll tell
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  Speaker 1: you how to play. We'll be fine.
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  Speaker 2: I'm getting two different answers here. Some are saying twelve,
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  Speaker 2: some are saying thirteen.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't know, maybe because they don't count like
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  Speaker 1: the thirteenth or well, I was thinking maybe they don't count.
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  Speaker 1: The lobby is level one. I don't know, and because
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  Speaker 1: like lobby and then one, two, three, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Oh could be yeah, that might make sense, actually I try.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, look at you. I go in a lot of elevators.
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  Speaker 1: It's probably a normal amount. Yeah, just like average. Well,
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  Speaker 1: this game is also called the Elevator to Another World.
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  Speaker 1: No thank you, or I think the Elevator rituals one
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  Speaker 1: of them. Okay, do you wanna know how to play
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  Speaker 1: and what happens?
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  Speaker 2: I mean sure, I don't want to accidentally play it
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  Speaker 2: without even like realizing, So.
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  Speaker 1: It would be kind of hard, but I can see
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  Speaker 1: how you could do it.
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  Speaker 2: Oh okay, great, buttons.
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  Speaker 1: Just kidding.
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  Speaker 2: Oh is that like all there really is to it?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I guess you're gonna tell me.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna tell you. Okay, I'll let you know.
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  Speaker 1: Then we'll decide at the end if we're going to
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  Speaker 1: go to the Benson and play this. Okay. So the
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  Speaker 1: Elevator game is an urban legend, and they say it
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  Speaker 1: started in Korea, or some say Japan. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if they're just kind of like lumping them in together.
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  Speaker 1: You're like, are you not sure which country? Yeah, but
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  Speaker 1: I think a lot more places say it originated in Korea. Interesting, okay.
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  Speaker 1: And this game kind of gained popularity in like twenty
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  Speaker 1: thirteen because of a very sad thing, Alisa Lamb's death
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  Speaker 1: at the Cecil Hotel in La and so there there
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  Speaker 1: was footage of her kind of acting strange in an
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  Speaker 1: elevator and so people just kind of were like, Oh,
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  Speaker 1: she's playing the Elevator game, and like that's what killed her.
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  Speaker 1: I don't obviously, I don't think that's true.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of seems like not so much, because if
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  Speaker 2: it's supposed to be taking you to another world like
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  Speaker 2: that piece of it did not work out to be true.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, spoiler alert, unless it took her there and spat
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  Speaker 1: her back out, because there's some there's some weird things
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  Speaker 1: that happen at the end if you don't end it right.
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  Speaker 1: Oh but obviously I don't think that's what happened to her,
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  Speaker 1: but okay, yeah, but kind of like a wigiboard, like yeah,
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  Speaker 1: like if you don't close it out right, okay, have
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  Speaker 1: you left so so intense. But that's the reason it
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  Speaker 1: got kind of linked to her stories because there was
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  Speaker 1: footage of her in an elevator, and then obviously online
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  Speaker 1: people wit nuts about it and have all of their
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  Speaker 1: own theories about true crime and so all of the sleuths,
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  Speaker 1: it's forever linked, unfortunately. Yeah, so this is a game.
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  Speaker 1: You can play alone, or you can share this experience
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  Speaker 1: with a friend. Caitlin, it did my weird wink. That
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  Speaker 1: was just my cheek moving. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think that's as enticing or convincing as you
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  Speaker 2: might be thinking.
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  Speaker 1: Don't you want to play with me? I could be
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  Speaker 1: in a haunted house. I'd be really good. You really
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  Speaker 1: would be. Yeah, you were born for this. So it
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  Speaker 1: needs a building with at least ten floors, so the
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  Speaker 1: ventsen would work. We look that up and they say
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  Speaker 1: it does have to be a public building too, so
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  Speaker 1: not like your own private building. I guess if you
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  Speaker 1: have a building with ten floors when you just.
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  Speaker 2: Like casually own, Yeah, something that's ten or more stories.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so it does have to be a public and
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  Speaker 1: obviously it needs to have an elevator. Yeah, fair point,
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  Speaker 1: fair point, it is in the name of the game. Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: To play this game, you get in the elevator and
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  Speaker 1: you ride the floors in a certain order. Oh and
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  Speaker 1: if someone enters the elevator on one of the floors
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  Speaker 1: that you stop at, or one of the players gets out,
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  Speaker 1: you have to restart. Oh okay, so you can't really
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  Speaker 1: interact with anybody.
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  Speaker 2: It's kind of starting to sound like Monopoly, like the
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  Speaker 2: longest game ever, because it's a hotel, and how the
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  Speaker 2: hell are you supposed to be uninterrupted?
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  Speaker 1: Right, Well, doesn't have to be a hotel, it just
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  Speaker 1: has to be a public building. True, but I don't
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  Speaker 1: know the cecil how pop in that was in the
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  Speaker 1: middle of the night, Like obviously some shit went down
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  Speaker 1: without anybody knowing, so yeah, yeah, that's true. Yeah, but
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  Speaker 1: the bed thy Yeah, it seemed pretty I feel like
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  Speaker 1: we would have to do it in the middle of
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  Speaker 1: the night, probably because it was people come in, and
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  Speaker 1: we said before they use the bar as like a
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  Speaker 1: public space, so it's not just people staying there that
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  Speaker 1: come in the building. Yeah, it's pretty busy, I imagine. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how many elevators they have to, like
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  Speaker 1: if they just have like one or if they have multiple.
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  Speaker 1: That obviously depends on the traffic.
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  Speaker 2: I think at the Benson they probably have just the
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  Speaker 2: one because remember she was talking about how and correct
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  Speaker 2: me if I'm remembering this wrong, but I think she
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  Speaker 2: was talking about how most hotels at the time would
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  Speaker 2: have had like a staircase on this side of the
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  Speaker 2: building and then a staircase on like the opposite side,
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  Speaker 2: and the Benson just has the one to get up
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  Speaker 2: to like guest rooms. So I think probably, I mean
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  Speaker 2: it's been renovated and things. Obviously we talked about that
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  Speaker 2: quite a bit, yeah, over the years, but I would
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  Speaker 2: think probably putting in just the one elevator, yeah, would
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  Speaker 2: be like the easiest way to go about it.
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  Speaker 1: But we'll have to see when we go back. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: service elevators, though I feel like that is a little
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  Speaker 1: bit different. Dude, using a service elevator would be like
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  Speaker 1: extra creepy for this game. I think, Yeah, I kind
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  Speaker 1: of want to do that. Okay, Okay, let's continue convincing
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  Speaker 1: Caaitln to never ever play this game, because that's basically
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  Speaker 1: what I'm doing here. Yeah. Essentially, so you start by
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  Speaker 1: going to the fourth floor, and then if there's no interruptions,
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  Speaker 1: no one comes in or out, you go down to
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  Speaker 1: the second floor. Okay. Then you go up to floor
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  Speaker 1: six okay, and then back down to floor two okay,
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  Speaker 1: and then all the way up to floor ten. Oh.
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  Speaker 1: And this is all like if anybody gets in or
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  Speaker 1: out at any point, you got to start all over again.
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  Speaker 1: So the next one you do, you go down to
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  Speaker 1: the fifth floor, and this is where some shit kind
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  Speaker 1: of starts to happen. Allegedly. If there's a woman that
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  Speaker 1: enters the elevator with you at the fifth floor, do
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  Speaker 1: not look at her, do not talk to her, like,
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  Speaker 1: don't acknowledge her at all. Pretend she does not exist.
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  Speaker 1: This woman is not a woman. Oh boy, she's not human.
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  Speaker 1: Oh boy, if you do talk to her, look at her,
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  Speaker 1: acknowledge her, she might decide that she needs to keep
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  Speaker 1: you for her own But for why, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: It didn't say oh, to play with you. Also, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know how you're supposed to know, Like what if
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  Speaker 1: it's just a normal woman getting on at the fifth
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  Speaker 1: floor and you have to start all over. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I guess you don't know until you know. But if
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  Speaker 1: it's at four five after doing the other sequences, just
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  Speaker 1: don't even even if you think it might be human,
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  Speaker 1: just like, don't yeah, don't acknowledge.
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  Speaker 2: I mean I feel like that really follows like my typical.
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  Speaker 1: Preference more interactions in a public setting. No thank you.
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  Speaker 1: I just wonder, like how hard she tries to get
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  Speaker 1: you to talk to her though, Oh, will she start
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  Speaker 1: talking to you? Like, hey, where are you from? What's
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  Speaker 1: a good restaurant in town? Like? Does she normal?
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  Speaker 2: You can't even look at her, so, I mean, is
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  Speaker 2: she doing something crazy that you can see like in
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  Speaker 2: the corner of your eye?
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  Speaker 1: Like yeah, I was just thinking like you can see
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  Speaker 1: her probably like on your peripheries, and I don't want that.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I kind of do. I just want to
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  Speaker 1: see what happens, like I want to know, but I
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  Speaker 1: don't really need to experience it for myself. Fine, I'll
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  Speaker 1: do it by myself. To wait the lobby and make
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  Speaker 1: sure I come back. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, somebody called the Ghostbusters.
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  Speaker 1: So if you make it through that and you don't
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  Speaker 1: speak or talk to her, I guess she goes away.
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  Speaker 1: And then you have to press the first floor button. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: The elevator then will either go down to the first
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  Speaker 1: floor normally in which you exit and you never look back.
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  Speaker 1: You just leave, just go, but it might start going
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  Speaker 1: up to the tenth floor instead of the first floor
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  Speaker 1: like the button you pushed. Okay. If the elevator reaches
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  Speaker 1: the tenth floor without interruption, you can then exit the elevator.
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  Speaker 1: For the first time in this entire game, you are
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  Speaker 1: allowed to exit the elevator and if a woman asks
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  Speaker 1: in a very high pitched voice, where are you going?
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  Speaker 1: What's wrong? I don't know if that's her voice, that's
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  Speaker 1: just what I interpreted the high pitch to be. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I for one and hate it, but don't
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  Speaker 1: respond to her. Okay, do the same thing, totally ignore it. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Once you get off on the tenth floor. You are
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  Speaker 1: in another world, okay, like you're there. You made it,
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  Speaker 1: you crossed over into the unknown, and you're alone there.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you could have your partner who you're playing with,
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  Speaker 1: but otherwise, no one else is in this world except
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  Speaker 1: for I guess this person who's asking what's wrong. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know where they're at or where they come from.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like that's ominous. You might not. It looks
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  Speaker 1: like you don't see them, though you kind of just
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  Speaker 1: maybe hear them. I'm not really sure. Okay, there's not
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  Speaker 1: a ton of details.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I would imagine this would be a
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  Speaker 2: difficult thing to report back on.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Okay. Also, your husband just walked by the
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  Speaker 1: little crack in the door, and I almost peed my
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  Speaker 1: pants even though I just.
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  Speaker 2: Peed Holy shit, what are husbands for if not to
• 14:00
  Speaker 2: make you a little bit freaked out, so much so.
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  Speaker 1: They almost scare the pepa out of you. It's fine, baby,
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: you're scaring the pp out of us. What do you say?
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm almost done. I don't know what he's doing.
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  Speaker 1: I never know what he's doing. Where's my meat loaf? Ma? Okay,
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: so we're kind of distracting ourselves. Well, let's keep going
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  Speaker 1: because there's more.
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  Speaker 2: Like meat loaf sounds good, you know, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Let's take the meat loaf on the elevator. Maybe that's
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  Speaker 2: the secret. You gotta take.
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  Speaker 1: Food with you and then you're fine. Well, I mean
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  Speaker 1: we did.
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  Speaker 2: That was the number one concern when we thought we
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: might get locked in behind the gate.
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  Speaker 1: That's true. You probably do want to take food with
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  Speaker 1: you because your electronics won't work in this other world,
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: so you can't eat Uber eats.
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  Speaker 2: I say that like I'm always ordering Uber Eats and
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  Speaker 2: that's just sim waiting.
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  Speaker 1: Not the case, but I want to have the option. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: when the options taken away, Yeah, it's horrifying. This other
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  Speaker 1: world is pretty close to the world that you came from.
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  Speaker 1: Like you you might not know the difference. What was
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  Speaker 1: the point? But all the lights will be off. Only
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  Speaker 1: thing that you can see is like a red glow
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  Speaker 1: coming from any windows, and it's from a red cross
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  Speaker 1: that's in the distance. Okay, why is this something that
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: we're trying to accomplish because you want to visit another
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: world in return and get bragging rights and say that
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  Speaker 1: you made it back.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, okay, are there people making it back. Are
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: there people making it there and then making it back?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I have so many questions. I bet
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: Reddit would tell you. Fuck. Ok I get like super
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: deep on people's like personal stories because we're just just
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: died in like how to play okay right now? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but yeah, I don't know. It'd be interesting to see
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  Speaker 1: if anyone actually did it and came back and had
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  Speaker 1: a story. Yeah, that would be so interesting. Or if
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  Speaker 1: it's just instructions and then no one ever returns to
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  Speaker 1: tell their tale.
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  Speaker 2: That's that's my concern, primarily, I feel because this other
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  Speaker 2: world sounds like.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you can return back to your own world.
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  Speaker 1: So the goal is to just enter that world and
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  Speaker 1: then get back, probably as fast as you can to
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  Speaker 1: the elevator that you got up there on. So you
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: definitely have to find the same elevator. Yeah, don't go
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  Speaker 1: too far.
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  Speaker 2: I'm saying allegendly on that because I'm gonna need someone
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  Speaker 2: to fact check to confirm this, to confirm what to
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: confirm that, like you can come back like yeah, I
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: don't know. You've got to follow all the rules though, Okay,
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: but apparently if you go too far, like you can
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  Speaker 2: lose track of the elevator, like the distance gets weird,
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: and of course you can, yeah, so be careful.
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  Speaker 1: I don't like that at all. So returning, you have
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: to get back in the same elevator and then go
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  Speaker 1: through the same order of floors that you did to
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  Speaker 1: get up there, So four to six, two, ten, five one,
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  Speaker 1: and then when you press the button for the first floor,
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  Speaker 1: it will start going back up to the ten floor again,
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  Speaker 1: and you have to cancel this before it gets there
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  Speaker 1: by pushing any other floor button apparently, okay, so to cancel,
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  Speaker 1: push any other floor and then I guess. Then when
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: it cancels, you can try to push floor one again
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  Speaker 1: and it should work. It should take you down, not
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  Speaker 1: backa okay, when you get to the first floor. Before
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: getting off the elevator, this is very important. Before you
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: exit the elevator, you want to check your surroundings very
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: carefully and just make sure everything is how it's supposed
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  Speaker 1: to be like the world. You remember, if something is
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  Speaker 1: even just a little bit off, don't get off the elevator.
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  Speaker 1: Oh god, don't do it, because you'll be trapped there forever.
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  Speaker 1: Probably I don't, okay. First of all, just too many steps.
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  Speaker 1: There's you need to write it down for sure, oh
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: a thousand percent, but not don't just have it on
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: your phone though, because it doesn't work in the other world.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: Well right, exactly. And I'm sorry, but I've had printed
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: map quest directions and still fuck that up. So I'm sorry.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: This is just I'm not prepared to roll the dice
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  Speaker 2: on this one, and I don't think so.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: Good thing. I think it's kind of like forgiving in
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: that you can like start it all over, you know,
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: if someone gets in, like I feel like it's semi forgiving.
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  Speaker 1: If you mess up.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: The front end, yes, and that's not even you messing up,
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: that's just like you're in a public space, so of
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: course that is gonna happen.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: And I feel like, but if you pushed like six
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: instead of or if you push like five instead of six,
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: you could just start all over. I think. Yeah, if
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: you're in the beginning, you're right, though, once you've been
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: to the other world and trying to get back, it's
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: a little bit different. Yeah, if you think something is wrong,
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: you have to repeat the sequence of floors until you
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: get back down to the first floor and you are
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: sure that that is your world. That sounds fucking exhausting.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: I know, so like, hopefully it works the first time
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: I take it back. It's like a thousand times worse
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: than Monopoly. Well yeah, yeah, I guess it depends on
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: how many times you have to go through the same
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: steps of floors. How many floors of that?
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, I can predict it would be a few
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: floor Yeah, no, thank you.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: But once you get to the first floor and everything
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: looks okay, it feels right, you can safely exit the elevator.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: Okay, great, are you about just help me something else?
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: It's like, oh, but also maybe so this is very interesting.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: So at any point during this game, if you faint
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: or pass out for whatever reason, you will likely wake
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: up in your own home and not know how you
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: got there.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: I mean, I guess if you faint, that's probably how
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: it normally works.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: I feel like you'd probably wake up in a hospital room.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: I guess maybe. I guess it depends on who's there
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: with you. Yeah, and I don't know. But if you
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: suddenly wake up in your own room after playing the
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: elevator game, you didn't know what was happening, it was
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: in the middle of it. You want to make sure
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: again that your check your surroundings, checking your world very
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: carefully to make sure it is your world, okay, and
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: that you're not trapped in in the other dimension okay,
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: just from passing out, all right, from being a scaredy cat.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, this is the worst game ever. And
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: this kind of happens to people that are like a
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: little more susceptible to things, a little more spongy as
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: I like to call it. Mm hmm.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, tell me more about why I shouldn't play this game.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: I'll be with you if you faint, I'll take care
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: of you.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, except what if, like only my physical body is
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: still with you, and like the other god like conscious
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: parts of you are going somewhere else.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: What if it's like insidious, where like someone other's soul
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: like takes over your body and you wake up and
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: you're not Caitlin anymore. Okay.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: Well I've never seen that for obvious reasons, but if
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: you ever watch The OA, there's sort of.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: A similar kind of a thing that happens. So yeah,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: I think you would really like it the insidious, like
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: because you said the Oay, so like the Insidious. It's
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: about like astral traveling, so they're like their soul leaves
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: their body while they're sleeping and then like other things
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: want to take it over. No, thank you.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: I'm like, you're like I've got Google fingers.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: Also, one last thing, Okay, you shouldn't try to play
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: this game too many times. I don't know what the
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: number of well, I don't know what too many times is,
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: but it does make you a little more susceptible to like,
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: you know, accidentally, like a little slippage through to the
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: other side create. Yeah, so if you play it too
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: many times, you might just go crazy, apparently, and start
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: slipping in and out of dimensions.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: Okay, I was gonna say, I mean, oh, all you
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: do is go crazy, Like, come on, we're halfway there.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean crazy. It's not a bad thing, right,
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: but we don't want to be slipping in and out
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: of dimensions, Willy nilly. I don't think so. No, I
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: don't think that I do. No, So you wouldn't play
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: this game with me. I'm pretty sure it's not for me.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: We should have a Patreon contest where some the winner
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: gets to play the Elevator game with Cassie.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: There you go, she needs a companion, you guys, because
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you're picking up on this at
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: all as you're listening or watching, but it's probably not
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: in a million fucking years going to be me.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: That's true. I don't know why I said Patreon either.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: This is going to be in the main feed. So
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: maybe we should have a contest for anybody, everybody, all,
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: all of the nordy people. I'm like creepy people kind
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: of people. Well, yeah, if anyone's interested in playing this
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: game with me and doesn't want to murder me, also,
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: I'm interested, let's do this. Yeah. Okay, h speaking of murdering. Yeah,
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: we have a couple of cards we might want to
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: draw and see what's on them. Do you want to
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: explain what these cards are? They're not Taro. I'm gonna
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: do my best.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: I haven't really had a chance to engage with these
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: up to this point, so I got a big all
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: stayck of them.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: There you go, and okay.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: I'll read you the discrruption. It says, crack the case
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: with this deck of one hundred and forty multiple choice
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: trivia questions covering some of the most fascinating crimes and
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: the real life criminals behind them.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: I love multiple choice, the best kind of test exactly.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: So it's topics taken from history and pop culture, from
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: cons and heist to unsolved mysteries and more. And this
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: says the game is sure to challenge even the most
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: devoted true crime fans Gie Alan dregsap Dad.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: So should I pull a card and read it for you?
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm afraid, Like what if there's one
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: that I don't know? But we can cut it out.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: There's a lot. If it's embarrassing, we can cut it out, verry.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: H huh, Okay, I'll pass it over to Yeah, okay,
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: So there's this one sticking out right here.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: I want It's like I'm pulling tarot, but I'm not.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: You put them pretty and I just put them back.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: Oh oh sorry, I thought I thought they were more even,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: and no, I messed it up. I'm so sorry. Right, well,
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: that looks kind of cool. Oh, like you're censoring my eyes,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: like like you don't know who I am. I should
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: push the button to change my voice, but I can't
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: get to it fast enough because I don't know where
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: it's at.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we are gonna have to play around with the
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: soundboard thing because there's so much fun.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: Oh, we will eradicated in twenty thirteen. The notorious silk
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: Road online marketplace was primarily used for what criminal activity?
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: A identity? Theft? B, arms dealing, C, murder for hire
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: or D illegal drug sales?
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: Oh god, I mean I'm pretty sure it was used
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: for all of the above.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: Will you read the question again? Yes, it's not all
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: of the above, no, I know. Eradicated in twenty thirteen,
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: the notorious silk Road online marketplace was primarily used for
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: what criminal activity? Do you need the answers again?
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: Go ahead? A identity theft, B, arm stealing, C, murder
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: for higher D illegal drug sales. I think it was
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: primarily the murder for hire. Is that your final answer?
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Are you going to bet a million
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: dollars on this quest? My god? Do you want the
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: fifty to fifty? Okay? Yeah, okay, so the fifty fifty
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: is a identity theft or D illegal drug sales?
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: Okay, it was between the murder for higher and the
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: drug sales. I'm like I said, I think they really
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: used like it was like kind of all of the above.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, drug sales, and that's what I that's what I
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: remember from Yeah, yes, that's correct. I was like, are
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: you sure? Is that your final in there? Yeah? Like,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: I don't know, was it really used for you should
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: do a little episodey on this?
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's I haven't looked at that super
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: in depth, just because I mean, Internet crimes are always
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: it's super interesting, but it can be really difficult to
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, number one, it's not necessarily going to be
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: P and W based, which.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: I'll cover that there would be a link like there's
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: so many Yeah, there should be. Yeah, I mean that
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: one get gosh rolled orc Yeah, I know, I remember
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: watching a documentary on that or it was like a docuseries.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: I don't remember, but yeah, do you want to read
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: the one you pulled for me? Yeah?
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: Okay, so some of you are going to be probably
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: screaming you know the answer.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: So I will am I not gonna know. I don't know,
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: I'm curious to see. Okay.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: I think it is fortuitous that this was the one
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: that was kind of flipped. It was flipped up a
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: little bit and I was like, oh, what's this. Then
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: I went to grab it and then I was like,
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: shut the fuck up, I'm gonna read this one for Cassie. Okay,
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: So that's how we got here. It's just like taro. Yeah, okay,
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: what true crime podcast ends with the catchphrase stay sexy
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: and don't get murdered?
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, I think I might know.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: Okay, Cereal Case File my favorite murder or doctor Death.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: It's my favorite murder. Oh it, you crushed it. Yeah,
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: I've probably seen the stickers.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: I maybe I think I've heard you say it recently,
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: like within the past month or so. I think you
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: told me that, and I was like, oh they say that,
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, no, no, no, what am I trying?
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: No comments?
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: No, yeah, probably the safest. Yeah.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: Mixed feelings from from people on that catchphrase.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: I think you know you can see both sides? Do
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: you do? You should we pull another one? Just like
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: one more each. I feel like it's just fun. Unless
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: you want to do more and more, I don't care.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: I mean more and more. Do you want to do more? More?
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: More and more? That would be more better. I woke
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: up with so much anxiety that I feel like now
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: I'm just insane.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: I feel like the last couple of recording sessions like
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: we've taken turns or sometimes simultaneously been very punchy.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just like very I don't know, very off kilter.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah it's fun. Okay, Yeah, I grab another one, another one. Oh,
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: doing the intuitive all right, I like it? Yeah, oh
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: this is interesting. Oh oh my god, what you know
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: this one? Okay, this is very interesting. Okay. The twenty
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: month old son of what aviator was kidnapped in March
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: of nineteen thirty two. Oh you mean the Lindbergh baby.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: Say she's going to answer it before she even needs to. Yeah.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: So the options were A Orville Wright, B John Glenn
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: See Amelia Earhart, which is like, that's okay, okay.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: So they tried to throw in some names there that
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: are associated with aviation to really like oh yeah, that
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: rings a bell and it's like yeah, because like Orville,
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: he was like he's like one of the right brothers.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: Orville Redenbacher, right with the popes, the popcorn, right and
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: then you popcorn and then yeah the plane plus Oh
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: that would be cool.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: That is an interesting one because they do have a
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: case coming up that has to do with aviation.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, is it Amelia Earhart? I'm obsessed with her.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: I don't know why, but like I really like her.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: I mean I think she was such a unique woman
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: in that era, and I think in a lot of ways,
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: like even today, she would stand out as being like
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: really kind of a bold, a bold person. But the
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: fact that it's like it's anything unsolved.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, really, they still don't know what happened to her
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: right as far.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: I mean my knowledge, I mean, unless they just figured
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: it out yesterday.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: And nice email us if you know what happened to Amelia. Hello,
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: call this hotline. Do you have any information on the
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: disappearance of Amelia or Heart?
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, we do have a text number. I'm pretty
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: sure that people can reply to us when we send
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: out our little love notes text.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, do it? Do it?
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: I know? Shit, Actually I don't. I don't have it
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: memorized because it's a really weird number. But maybe I will.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: Uh maybe we'll have to drop that in the show notes.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, okay, So sign up for a text yeah,
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: and emails also that and patron.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: And do all the things. Smash that subscribe button. That's
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: like jerking off, I mean that's how you get okay,
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: sorry mom, Verry Mom. This is fucking hilarious. I I
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: just picked one, like right off the top.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: And is it a Lisa Lamb. This one was mad
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: for y'all. Oh, okay, okay, and I think you're gonna
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: see why. And it makes me I feel like it's fortuitous,
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: so embarrassed.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: If I don't know, I okay, it's possible that you won't,
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: but I feel like this is like almost a little
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: sign out our upcoming creative oh show. Okay, okay, okay,
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: I got it. I gotta just spit out the question
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: or I'm going to just spit I don't.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: That's not what he said. No, I never do what.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: US state is home to the Emerald Triangle, a region
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: that has long been associated with large scale illegal marijuana farms.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: California. Oh my god, you guessed it right off, because
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: I've been googling this. This has been on my list
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: of things to talk about. Well, and I was, but
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: then I realized it was more true crime. Well it's
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: kind of both. Yeah, it's kind of both. I knew.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, so all four multiple choice it was first
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: option is a Oregon, I mean, I get it.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I wanted to say Washington because like the Emerald,
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: but I was like, no, it's not because yeah, that's
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: one of the options. So it was Oregon, Tennessee, California,
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: and Washington, Tennessee. That's like not even clothes.
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: Well, I think there was an operation, and it might
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: not be Tennessee. I'm probably remembering wrong. Oh, I remembered.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: It's I'm pretty sure Kentucky.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: Oh chicken, No, it was so you know, have you
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: ever heard about I mean, do you have any familiarity
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: with like Kentucky bluegrass, like the music.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then I think, really, I could be wrong,
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: but I'm pretty sure they have like a type of
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: actual grass that grows in Kentucky.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: Okay, it was like music I've heard of her, like
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: actual blue grass.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's not it has like a bluish
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: hue to it. But yeah, I'm pretty sure there was
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: an operation where like it got kind of like the
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: weed that they were growing there because it's oh gosh,
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: and I can't remember the specifics of it, but it
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: was popularized and came from like this specific part of Kentucky,
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: like I think up in the mountains, and it just
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: like went crazy because at that point it was like
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: all of the weed was being grown in places like
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: Mexico and California, and you know, kind of.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: The usual suspects if you will.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: But all of a sudden there's like this, Oh, what's
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: this Kentucky blue Grass? I might have to I might
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: have to look at that one again because that it's
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: kind of interesting.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: I'm curious why Tennessee, Like what Tennessee has with Emerald things,
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: like is there some sort of.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: Maybe it's just a misnomer, you know, like something that
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: was it's like the red Herring.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: M Yeah, I don't know. Just because you said all
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: those other people were connected with like aviations, I'm like,
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: what are real Tennessee. I think they email us let
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: us know.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: I think that they're just kind of trying to throw
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: in some answers that like seem plausible.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: But that does kind of make you wonder, like what
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: about Tennessee.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, because Nashville, because it gets wild there.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: That's always the answer if it's a question about Tennesseeville,
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: because she'd be wildin we had a story from someone
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: from Tennessee and the creepy people chronicles maybe they know.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if you could just right back with any information
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: you have about Nashville, Kentucky Bluegrass, Uh, the Emerald Triangle,
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: Uh what else weed? Yeah, that's what I got out
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: of this conversation. Yeah, well, hey, listen, what does that not?
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's funny. I love that and I'm so
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: glad I knew the answer me too.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I found one.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: Okay, what Fall River, Massachusetts resident was acquitted of the
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: murder of her father and stepmother in Morton.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: Pick an easier one, pick a hard. I was like,
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: that was the easy one. Okay, let's see. I don't know.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: Some of these are a little probably too old. Oh,
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: here we go, speaking of cals.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: Oh, you're gonna stomp me probably on this one. I
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: don't know.
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: You might know this one. In eighteen ninety five, Irish
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: dressmaker Bridget Cleary was murdered by her husband due to
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: his suspicion that she was secretly What a is a ghost,
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: which begs a question like why would you murder?
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: Again? I want that to be the answer, but I
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: don't think that's correct. Be a changeling, ce a demon
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: or d a selky? I feel like you wouldn't have Wait,
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: this is Irish though, right is it the selky? It
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: is not change? Oh? I was like, I don't it's one,
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: It's one of them. Yeah, Oh okay, hold on. I
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: would have you know that if I would have thought
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: about it like a tiny bit more. I do know
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: that changelings are like, it's an Irish thing.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it originates from sort of that part of the UK.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: Maybe I was mistaking our selky. I think that they're Irish. No,
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: I think you're right.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Selki also, I don't know if it's
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: specifically Irish.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: It might be, but I do believe.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: That sort of legend or folklore originates from that region.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: They're humans with seal skin on. But like changelings are
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: the ones where they they like take them from birth
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: and replace them with like a faery or something.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: Right, not necessarily from birth, but it can be from
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: it just like from as a child.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like that is.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: It's a phenomenon that I believe you hear more about
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: happening to children, like often very young children and or babies.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: That seems right to me. Oh creepy yeah.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: Okay, there's like one other super easy one that I'm like,
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: that's I can't. I can't with that, But I'll do
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: this one because I think it's one of the more
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: interesting ones of what I have in my hand.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: In nineteen twenty five, the Austrian con artist Victor Lustig
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: I'm assuming, received seventy thousand francs in a scheme to
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: do what where is.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: This from again? Austria, Austria. Yeah, A sell the Eiffel Tower.
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: B kidnap Edith poff Ce, rob the Orient Express. Oh,
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: or D steal the Mona Lisa. You really don't know. Yeah,
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: give me the fifty.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: Okay, So the fifty to fifty is sell the Eiffel
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: Tower or steal the Mona Lisa.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: I was for some reason going with the Mona Lisa anyway.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: So I'm just gonna make that my answer wrong. Yeah,
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: that's when we need the soundboard. Yeah. She remembers that
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: button selling the Eiffel Tower. This sounds weird.
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, I don't know how, and goes
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: about doing that exactly.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: Honestly, I feel like stealing the Mona Lisa is easier
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: than selling in the Eiffel Tower. Yeah, how exactly are
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: you moving that thing? Or maybe was it like to
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: sell the concept of it or.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: Well maybe he was just saying like, I'm not moving
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: it anywhere, but I will sell it to you. You
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: can own the Eiffel Tower, like it stays put but
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: you own it.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: So he's like a realtor. I guess, man, I wanted
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: to steal the Mona Lisa, not yea, because art shouldn't
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: be stolen.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, listen, the Mona Lisa. She's been through enough.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: Was she stolen before?
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: I believe? So? Yeah? Interesting, Yeah, should do an episode
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: on them.
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: There's been a couple of attempted he of the Mona
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: Lisa for sure.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: Wasn't there like a thing of I could be completely
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: batshit insane, but like a conspiracy, like she was stolen
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: and they returned, like she was returned, but it's like
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: not actually the original, Like it's a fake that they
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: want people to think. Is theory. I believe there.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: I believe that is one conspiracy theory that exists that
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: could literally be a conspiracy theory on any stolen art though,
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: so I don't know specific.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: It's fun to think about.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: Do you want to hear the super Duper Easy one?
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Okay. I was like, I'm gonna pull one more
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: for you now because I feel like we're really okay Okay.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: The infamous unsolved murder of a woman known as the
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: Black Dahlia occurred in nineteen forty seven in what city
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: do you know? I don't know off the top of
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: my head. But if you give me the option things.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: Do you want the fifty to fifty? You know what?
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: Actually I feel like that's too easy, like California somewhere right.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, then I'm going to give you the fifty
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: to fifty. See Los Angeles, California? Do you San Diego, California?
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: Sandia? I would say Los Angeles? Yeah? Who says Los Angeles? La? Yeah?
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: I mean well, yeah, for some reason I was gonna
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: say that, but for some reason, there was like something
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: in the back of my mind saying San Francisco. But
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: I don't know why. Huh. But so yeah, I don't know,
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: but yeah, La makes sense. Obviously she was an actress. Yeah,
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: kill me pull one more for you. This sister fun.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: I know, we just have fun here. I know we're
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: gonna do some more fun stuff with this, for sure.
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: Should we do it Trivia night?
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: Yes, Patrio Patreon trivia Night. That'd be really fun. That
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: would be fun. We're doing it, joined the Patreon. Okay,
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: what service did the disgraced biotech entrepreneur Elizabeth Holmes offer
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: through her fraudulent startup Thorough Nose sharrhosrs. You know it?
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: Do you want me to read all the things or
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: do you have a guess?
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: Read the question and again, because I was just going like, hey,
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: oh in my head.
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: What service did the disgraced biotech entrepreneur Elizabeth Holmes offer
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: through her fraudulent startup therenos? So, like, what services did she?
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know what this specific wording is that
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: they're going to use, So re meet the options. Okay,
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: telehealth therapy, Okay, everybody knows that's betterhelp.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: How long ago was this? It doesn't have a year,
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: so I don't know, like how long ago. It's pretty recent.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's pretty reason that they've actually like wrapped up
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: her trial.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, oh okay, uh huh so a telehealth therapy.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: B blood tests see biopsies or D genetic testing? Oh
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: my god, it's like they're not even trying it's blood
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: tests it is. I don't know anything about this, so
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: that's interesting. Really, I have no I've never heard of
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: any of this before. Wow.
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: Okay, well when we tost me, we have to end
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: this now so that I can go and find some old
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: interview clips of Miss Elizabeth to show.
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: Cassie, Like, what was she doing with the blood test?
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: That's really the question. Oh god, yeah, yeah, yeah, have
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: a creepy Halloween. Yeah, don't sell fake blood tests, and like,
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: don't do the well, if you do the Elevator game,
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: be very safe. Just don't take a buddy. The simple
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: answer is just don't write down the instructions. Also, maybe
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: don't or just don't unless you're with me, Okay, because
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: I'm a shield and I'll protect it.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go eat my Chris meat burrito.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: That's my shield. I'm not gonna eat wine. I'm just kidding.
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: I was like, what