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Vice on its deathbed and other shocking news... Are Women Psychopaths? | Maintaining Frame 85 · Honey Badger Radio

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Readings and welcome Tony Badger Radio. My name is Brian. I'm here with
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Alison and this is maintaining frame number. I think it's like eighty five.
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Yes, Vice is on Vice on its deathbed and other shocking news. Are
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women psychopaths? Now? You could I kind of I kind of wing to
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that one a little bit. So, yeah, you could interpret that multiple
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ways because currently people don't think that women can be the psychopaths. Yes,
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but apparently that may not be true. You know, the uh, the
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rumors of women being angels or I don't know, light beings captured and forced
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into corporeal form by demonic males might be slightly exaggerated, might be a little
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bit overblown, shall we say. But yeah, like this is sort of
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a like this is a pot POORI I said that word, right, pot
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POORI, Pope PERI I think is how you say it? Pope? God
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Dad? I think so, yes, you're right here, it's Poe Pury.
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Oh God. Even Jonathan's getting in on it, pot purri. All
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right, well, mock mock me. That was pretty mockable. Okay,
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sooper admonish, admonish, shame, shame, flagellate pot pourri This is like
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a show popery mm hmm po a show pop pot pourri of a show,
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like a I think I know what you mean. It's a it's a it's
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a salad bar of a show. Yeah, like a buffet. Because we've
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got like multiple items. We got the vice maybe on its deathbed, and
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we have women. Uh they're the number of female sie sociopaths maybe higher than
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people suspect and uh, and then another one moms drool Dad's rule, which
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is yet another spit lunking what is it word dive into like a like water
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caverns going into the water caverns of women's resentments towards men, which yeah,
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I mean if if women couldn't resent, would they just die? That's a
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question. If we couldn't resent men for something, would they just wilt and
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turn into like a I don't know, dried petals float away on the wind.
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They just cease to exist, crumble like sand like that. Uh,
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sands in the hours are the days of our lives? Yeah, okay,
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all right, So those are the three items that we thought we'd cover today.
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Yeah, we're gonna be going through like, yeah, three things.
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Well? First, I guess I wanted to ask because I did see
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we got a couple of super chows like after our last show. Yeah,
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one of them is a request from Richard, but another one is just a
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super chowd Were we going to read that really quick? Sure? Except let
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the streams. I thought I might have broken the tube. So I asked
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some of the supporters. While we were doing our like we do a show,
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we played movies a couple times a night or a couple of evenings the
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the super chows do they still work? So I asked them to send something
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through to make sure they did, and they did and it worked. So
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it's all good. But you can read it if you want. Well,
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all it is is from tell him Nar. He gave us five bucks and
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says, no rocks, this is spinal tap. And I think he was
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just kind of co signing on my recommendation. You know you you you,
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I know you watched it. I know you guys watched it, right,
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Yeah we did, because yeah, you said it's a good show and it
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was funny. There's there were points where it was hilarious, like how many
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all of them talking about all of the drummers that died, all the drummers
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that have died. Yeah, one spontaneously combusted and yeah, it turned into
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a small green globule. Yeah. That good movie, guys. You know
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watch spinal It was very I figured it was very up your alley because it's
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kind of got that, it's got that Monty Python humor. Yeah, you
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know, but also like it showed it. There's a part where you know,
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they talk about sexism. They had they had a they had an image
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of an oiled up woman on all fours with the leash sniffing. Oh I
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remember that. Yeah, yeah, sniff my glove, yes, sniff the
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glove. That's right. And then the woman from corporate was like, this
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is sexist. Yeah that was ah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
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that's right. It's been a while, but she actually like she has really
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nicely shaped lips. Friend dresser is an attractive Jewish woman, yeah voice,
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yeah, yeah. I was like, I was just surprised. I was
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like, wow, that's those are lips you don't see anymore because everybody's has
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to inflate them like balloon animals. Now, yeah, so you don't just
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see well, people were normal back then. That was that was a different
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time. Teeth. Yeah, people did the normal thing. Yeah, because
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people are pulling out all of their teeth and implanting like perfect teeth now on
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YouTube or something. Yeah. The thing I was the guy, the screen
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rants guy. I know this is a long digression, guys, but the
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security rans guy still has his like normal teeth. I'm looking what that's I
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don't know who the screen rance guy is. Watch you know pitch meeting.
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Oh yes, yes, I know who he is. Yeah, yes,
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yeah, he still has normal looking teeth. Barely an inconvenience, barely an
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inconvenience exactly. Well that's new. I mean, that's or not new,
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but that's that's different because everybody on YouTube now looks like an artificial version of
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themselves. But anyway, yeah, let's let's let's get into it, all
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right, let's get into the article. So we have some good news.
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Of Fortune has reported that Vice, among other people, Vice Media, once
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valued at five point seven billion dollars, is shutting down Vice dot com and
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laying off several hundred staff. What could it be that had brought this on?
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And man, are they not let me read this because of this stupid?
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Can I close this thing? Get out of here, I'll just read
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through the article, Okay. Vice Media plans to lay off several hundred employees
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and no longer published material on its Vice dot com website, the company CEO
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said in a memo to staff on Thursday. Imagine getting that memo, Yeah,
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you're all fired. Bys, which filed for bankruptcy last year before being
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sold for three hundred and fifty million to a consortium led by the Fortress Investment
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Group, is also looking to sell its Refinery twenty nine publishing business. CEO
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Bruce Dixon said in his memo to staff, it's the latest sign of financial
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problems buffeting the media industry. Digital sites like Messenger, BuzzFeed News, buffeting,
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befetting, buffeting, Okay, buffeting, I'll say buffeting, because they're
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getting eaten up. Buffeting the media industry. Digital sales, Why are they
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using Why are they doing that though? Why are they like using this crazy
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language just say getting murdered or something? I don't know. Digital sales like
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Messenger or digital sites like the Messenger, BuzzFeed News, and Jezebel have all
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shut down in the past year, and legacy media outlets like The La Times,
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Washington Posts, and Wall Street Journal have also been seeing job cuts.
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I wonder what people are tired of being lied to. Yeah, maybe that's
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a good point. I mean, like with like some of the hard hitting
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journalistic pieces that they have put out, all of which are like feminists in
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some way. That's the pattern I'm noticing BuzzFeed, Jezebel and Vice and Vox.
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I think Vox has lost a lot of money. I think we're still
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waiting on the Mary too, though. That's kind of like, you know,
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looking at my watch, looking at my watch for the Mary Sue's personal,
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right, is it? Oh yeah, yeah, that's true. Yes,
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it is for us. Forget that whole thing up. No, No,
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of course I didn't forget. I just I just didn't. I thought
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you were suggesting that it's like a different kind of company than like it's like
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a personal grudge. You know what. I really don't even have a person.
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I don't even really have a grudge. I just I'm just, you
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know, it is I think that I want to believe that the truth comes
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out eventually, and I think this is like a reflection of that, because
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well, in my opinion, I think that these companies, you know,
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laying off people left and right is a product of independent media, like people
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that are doing you know, this kind of discussions of this kind of work
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that don't belong to like these big companies, and they're just you know,
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they just care about the truth, I think, and I think that we
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are among those people. I mean, I don't I have a news show,
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and maybe this isn't you know, we don't necessarily talk about the news
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as a matter of course, but I think that when we talk about what's
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going on in the world, and like when we share our you know,
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thoughts and ideas on things, I think that it, along with anyone else
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doing that, as long as they're seeking, you know, I don't know,
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something useful, something truthful, not clickbait, not you know, just
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trying to demonize half the population, you know, just just saying like we
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need, like you know, to talk about this in like a rational way
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and and a and a compassionate way. I think that, you know,
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these these companies like Vice, they're just I don't know, bottom feeders.
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I mean, it wasn't it wasn't meant to last. I am, and
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I'm here for it all the way, here for it. Yeah, And
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like I mean, the article isn't very long, but you also mentioned,
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in conjunction with this article, that Jezebel has taken down its post about Yeah.
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So they had that article, you know, have you ever what is
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it? It's the one that Paul elam lampoon have you ever beaten your boyfriend?
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Because we have yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they took they
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took it down, quietly took it down. You can get the archive link
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of it. I think we have it in our discord so we can always
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look at it. But the fact that they took that down, even if
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they didn't issue a retraction or say look we were wrong or whatever, I
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think that says something. You know, I think that that's like, I
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think it's the Overton window moving a little bit, and it's sort of I'm
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maybe I'm, you know, too optimistic, but I do think that people
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are are getting sick of this kind he rhetoric. Feminist organization had basically domestic
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violence Triumphalism up on its website for how many years, like fifteen. Yeah,
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it's incredible, and then people are like, wow, they're about equality.
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Well, certainly not in equality when it comes to male victims of domestic
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violence in that case. In that case, they're about you know, winning,
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I guess, and winning means that all the services go to women,
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or not even to women. All the services go to feminism at least all
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the money for the services the services themselves. Eh yeah, maybe maybe maybe,
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maybe we'll do a few Maybe we'll put out some newsletters. Maybe we'll
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do another campaign to inform people that beating your wife is bad. Hey,
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Joe, did you know that beating your wife is bad? That's our services
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for female victims of domestic violence done for the year. Thank you everyone,
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done her one day of work. Now let's get our half of the million
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dollar salaries. Yep, Jesus Christ. I'll finish reading it really quick so
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it's not a long article, and then I'll look at I got some super
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chats, so uh in it's the latest sign of financial problems. Okay,
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read that. Once a swashbuckling media company geared to a younger audience with an
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immersive storytelling style that encompassed digital, television and film outlets, New York based
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Vice was valued at five point seven billion in twenty seventeen. Didn't like Okay,
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A couple things about that. I know Tim Poole used to work for
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Vice, and I think Gavin McGinnis was also a part of that. Am
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I wrong about that? I feel like he might have even been one of
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the people who started it, and they both left like like they've moved far
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away from it in fact and vice in terms of like what it reported.
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It's it's in the name it was, you know, it was all about
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like whatever like rebellious thing was in they were reporting on right, and they
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were essentially they considered themselves to be countercultural, but then they became the main
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stream, or at least it was realized that this is the counterculture. Wasn't
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to the counterculture what where we throw back our our heads and laugh. Yeah,
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counter culture? Yeah, well that's what they were. That's what they
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considered themselves. Boy and uh yeah, So let's let's see what else.
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Dixon offered no specifics about the layoffs, other than saying hundreds of people will
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be affected, and it will be and will be notified early next week.
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The New York Times reported that the company currently has about nine hundred people on
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staff. Oof, so that's a lot they're gonna lose, you know,
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hundreds, they say, probably not everybody, but I assume they're gonna be
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going down to like a skeleton crew. I know that's saying goodbye to our
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value colleagues. What was that? No, it sounds like it. I
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mean, I guess we shouldn't crow about it too much because it is probably
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due to a downturn in the economy. Right, Uh, well, I
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don't know about that. I mean, I think that these journalists, I
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would say that they could find work, the journalists at another outlet. But
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the thing is is that all of these outlets are trimming the fat. They're
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all cutting people, and social media is cutting people too, So they're gonna
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have to, like I don't know, learn to code, or learn to
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work in the coal mine or something like. You might have to do some
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of the work that you were shitting on other people for doing because you wanted
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those jobs cut. You remember that, So, like there was all of
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this blue collar work. I think it was like the coal industry was like
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seeing a bunch of slashing, right, and journalists were saying, learn to
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code, and now they're losing jobs. And of course you know that here
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in the US, a lot of the coal mining that we were doing was
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in places like Virginia and West Virginia, and those people are really struggling,
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and I do have a lot of sympathy, and I think it's really,
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you know, not good. But I guess this is what they get.
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I mean, frankly, people working in energy, which is ultimately coal is
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is a far more valuable profession than journalism, especially if that journalism is just
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like BS journalism, if it's just like chabloid, you know, clickbait crap.
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Well, I mean, I don't know. I guess all I'm saying
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is I'm not happy that it happened to you, but I think that it
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is, you know, nature is healing. To put it like that,
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it is what has to happen. So you're gonna have to make yourself useful
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in some other way, Okay, So I mean. And also the other
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thing was that they had this triumphalism about I don't know, blue collar jobs
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being replaced by AI and robotic. I remember all that. I remember.
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I would go on Twitter, like, you know, five, I have
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ten years ago, because I've been on Twitter for a while now. Yeah.
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Actually no, no, no, maybe not ten years ago, maybe
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more like eight. I think is when I was more active on Twitter.
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And you know, i'd say, well, men do a lot of these
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blue collar jobs, you know that keep society running. And they would say,
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well not for long. Mm hmmm, well there's those jobs are going
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to be replaced. What are those men going to do then haw haul they'll
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have no use And it's like that didn't happen, did it. The first
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thing that seems to be replaced is journalists because the AI can write your articles
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for you. That's true, and the AI very it'll get better, but
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I don't think the journalist has they are were very good either, though we've
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read through enough articles. There was no analysis. There was no no in
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depth kind of gum shoe like research or oh no that's too hard. It
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was all just lazy, lazy. It was too bad. All it was
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was people reporting on what people did on Twitter. That was reporting for like
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years. Yeah, so and so it was on Twitter and did this.
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It's gossip. And I feel bad for the artists who are being uh somewhat
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replaced. I don't know, like artists you mean by AI Yeah, uh
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yeah, going to be replaced. I don't know though, because I think
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that I think that what's going to happen is, you know, we were
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just I was just talking to my friends about film because they were talking about
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this like this new I forget what it's called, but like the AI that
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is creating like photo realistic film, but like film quality, you know,
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video from the appropriate prompts. And they were saying, you know, like
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it's going to get to the point where you don't need actors anymore. And
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I was like, well, maybe what will happen though, is people will
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start going back to plays and we'll do what people will desire, the human
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element. And I think that that would be good because I have found that
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when it comes to film, it's a club. It's a very exclusive club,
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and most people are not in it. Because when I worked in the
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I used to work at the theater at the box office, and so I
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would see like the actors you know all the time. I like was on
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a first name basis with them. I knew them. They would come in,
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even some really famous people like Michael Gambone and what's his name? It
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was a few like actors. Can you remember the guy from Babe that that'll
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do Pig the Farmer? Yeah, I mean him, Vince Vaughn, Like
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you know the guy I'm talking about. I'm sure somebody knows his name.
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Okay, But what I'm saying is is that in stage acting, the people
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that did this stuff, that did the plays, they were really good.
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Like like I think that the people who are in Hollywood, the celebrities,
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are not like the actors because the actors that I knew from working in theater,
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they had to know, like they knew how to do singing, dancing,
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They played instruments and they could act. They were good, and they
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had to do it multiple times a day and get it right every time.
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This is like a completely you know what I'm saying, like doing TV or
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movies, like you can anyone can be in something if you just have enough
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takes and they're getting really lazy with it. I think that it's sort of
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like a necessary especially what especially the well, what I've noticed is the sound.
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Hollywood sound is getting worse, worse and worse. Yeah, there's like,
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okay, I agree with you with that. Like the uh. I
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think visual arts too, I think they just have to like to visual arts
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can also benefit more from a human touch. Even if AI art can look
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really nice, but I think people can tell, you know, it looks
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too clean. Yeah, and I think they have it doesn't have that kind
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of personality honestly exactly. And then and that's another thing too, is that
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you know, like, right now, you can create AI art that looks
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like Anime, or it looks like Pixar or Disney, or it's hyper realistic.
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But the thing is it's it's operating under a single type of model.
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Like if I drew something in the way that I do it, I don't
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think AI could reproduce it in my style. So, like, think about
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Matt Groenig, the guy who created the Simpsons of Futurama. He has a
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specific style that his characters look like. Now, if you asked an AI
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to recreate it, it could, but it couldn't come up with something new,
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you know, Like, it couldn't come up with something as far as
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I know anyway that would have it be visually appealing and yet unique. Right,
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So I don't know. I mean, I think that it's going to
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make it easier for people to get art made that they want without paying an
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artist. But and that could have its own challenges. But I think that
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I think that artists can use it to improve their own work. What was
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that? Yeah, I don't think it's not going to take away that initial
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creativity yeah, right, that's the spark I'm not. I mean, I
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don't know. Maybe I think people would probably disagree with me on that,
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and that's fine, but that's what I suspect. Yeah, well, I
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think it's people who fantasize about being everybody being replaced by machines. Yeah,
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machinotopia, but that I'm not sure. Like, there's there's one big thing
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that machines can't replicate. We have no idea, and that is and this
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is actually the basis of emotion and intelligence. That's a haptic system like they
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and I had somebody say no, but they can do no. The thing
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is that movement isn't the same as haptics. It's the it's the whole total
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processing from all of your vestibular sense, to your vestibular kinesthetic to to your
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nerve endings on your in your skin which is tactile. So it's it's like
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multiple systems coming together, and we don't have anything that replicates that now,
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we don't even have the beginnings of really understanding it to a really deep degree.
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And just having a robot walk or even balance isn't the same because we
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have a sense of well, it doesn't have like a robot. Even if
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it can walk like a human, it doesn't have a human sense of itself
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in the space. We have a sense of where we are. We have
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in a sense where our hands are, where our feet are, where our
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head is, and we also integrate that with the feeling of textures around us.
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And that's a kind of intelligence that they haven't even begun to understand,
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much less replicate. Yeah, well, looks like my doggo I got a
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couple of super chats I should read out really quick because they're going to disappear.
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So Iggy Thunders gives us five dollars and says, in lieu of this
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crippling blow to socio political discourse, I'm requesting Queen's death on two legs for
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her next beat saver. So he there's a couple of beatsaber requests in here.
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They're they're sent through superchat. So you might want to like, we're
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not what should I go and do beatsaber? Maybe no, no, no,
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no, he's asking for the next time you do it. But maybe
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we should make a note of it. All right, love these requests so
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it's much easier for me to do this stuff. And also, if this
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is a genuine request. You got to make sure they actually have it because
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they don't have all the queen stuff. Yeah, well I did. I
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did get another follow up from him that that adds to that. But let
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me read through these, so thank you, Iggy Thunders. And then Albert
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Nada retro gives us two dollars. Canadian says f's in the chat for poor
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Vice, and then added a bunch of laugh emojis. Try you know,
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let's let's see. These people are gonna they're good. You know, they're
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just gonna have to settle for one scone with their uh you know, double
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frappaccino, mocha soy latte in the morning and uh, because you gotta you
27:37
gotta make some you gotta make some sacrifice, you gotta make some cutbacks.
27:44
Yes, a single scone can't You can't have two scones anymore. Then I
27:48
got another two dollars, uh, Canadian firm Albert Rayton Nada and he says
27:52
the hit a boyfriend was a Jezebel piece, not Vice. I think I
27:56
said that. I said that it was Jezebel. I knew that we were
27:59
also talking about taking that down because you're looking at like you're looking at the
28:03
broader pattern, right, yeah, yeah, So I'm hoping that maybe this
28:08
means, I don't know, maybe Jezebel has become less triumphuless. But then
28:12
again, you know, it was almost it was almost beneficial that they were
28:17
so openly hateful towards Mail. Well, maybe there maybe Jezebel's work is done.
28:22
Maybe it's like starting an engine, like they just started the engine and
28:26
now like, well, women are just going to do all that, all
28:29
the remaining work for us. We don't have to write articles anymore. We'll
28:33
see maybe is that No, there's there's a little more. Iggy Thunders gives
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us five bucks and says, I checked and beat Saber doesn't have on loot
28:44
two legs. So last stands by sabotan if you're making a list for next
28:48
time, question mark thank you. And then I got there's more. I'm
28:52
sorry, I got more. I might as well go through it all before
28:56
it disappears. So Richard Bierre gives five dollars and says, perhaps, oh,
29:03
this is a super chow, so let me give you a badger chant
29:06
for that. Perhaps it's because when you go towards the communist agenda, you
29:10
find out that everyone is incapable of being loyal enough to the cause. The
29:14
ninety year old woman who was dismissed from the Multiple Sclerosis Society because she didn't
29:18
understand the necessity of pronouns in the email signature is another symptom of this.
29:22
Yes, I have heard about that story. Lindsay and I were just draws
29:27
on the floor, but not really. The people who are pushing the pronoun
29:32
agenda should have been asked, quote, what does this policy have to do
29:36
with the mission of the Multiple Sclerosis Society? End quote, And in an
29:38
absence of any coherent answers, they should be been told to not bring up
29:45
said suggestion ever again. Yeah, an old woman I think she was like
29:48
in her like late eighties. She had been a volunteer, so wasn't getting
29:56
paid a volunteer at the Multiple School Society, and there was something about pronouns
30:03
and she was like, I don't understand what this is, and instead of
30:06
even explaining it to her, they just dropped her. If she's out,
30:11
So you know, keep on doing that, alienate yourself, that's fine,
30:15
Like I said, the reality will come, you know, no matter what
30:18
you do, there's the truth always persists, all right. Another one from
30:26
Richard Beerre for five bucks. He says, perhaps a contributing factor to the
30:29
demise of these outlets is that they are now incapable of making any content that
30:33
isn't about the rainbow alphabet, agenda, and everything else is invisible to their
30:37
staff and creators. I suppose, so creatively bankrupt, is what I have
30:41
point there. I think you got a point there because I think where all
30:45
of this stuff was strongest was giving women tools to engage in intersectional competition and
30:52
also extort stuff out of the men in their lives. And once they stopped
30:57
giving these emotional tools and started focusing on all of this transgender stuff, it's
31:03
like they get rid of the big, the big selling point for basically all
31:07
of this stuff is feminist. It's uh, like all of it is so
31:14
yeah, well, the the the essential resentment at the base of it all
31:18
is feminist. So it's like, yeah, they just got rid of They
31:22
got rid of their what's the right word, their bread and butter, their
31:26
money maker, and maybe their most powerful tool, their most powerful weapon.
31:33
Yeah. Well, in some ways I still think they have it. But
31:36
on the other hand, you have to consider that it also split feminism in
31:41
two. It did like, uh, you know, because we now have
31:45
the Turfs versus the you know, which which brand of messingery do you want?
31:52
The Turfs versus the the intersectionals? And yeah, I think it's basically
31:59
over this question. It's Uh, the the Turfs just don't want any anyone
32:05
with a penis to have moral authority over women, period. And uh and
32:10
and the non Turfs are willing to allow that. They're willing to allow,
32:15
h somebody with a penis who identifies as a woman or you know, post
32:19
penis whatever what we would consider biologically. I don't know how to say it
32:24
without being rude. Uh, somebody with an x Y chromosome who identifies as
32:30
a woman. They'll allow that person to have moral authority over them. But
32:35
uh, but the turfsy that that just it's just abhorrent to them. It's
32:40
absolutely abhorrent to them. It's abhorrant for them to have to consider any kind
32:47
of issue coming from an x Y Let's just put it out that they have
32:52
to incorporate morally any aspect of the experience of an x Y person, even
32:58
if that x Y person I'd identifies as a woman. They just they just
33:02
oh that they're just sticks in their craw and and the transsectuals are willing to
33:08
allow it, you know, not for an x Y person who identifies as
33:13
a man, even though that's what is that now anymore? What does that
33:15
even mean anymore? It's meaningless, isn't it? Like, isn't it supposed
33:20
to be meaningless? Now? What whether at least at least women get to
33:22
be called birthing people. I don't even know what men are. They're just
33:27
like not in the conversation at all, honestly, Yeah, in the intersectional,
33:30
in the intersectional language, there's no such thing as a man. Well,
33:35
that's what it's all about. It it's about it's not about black people
33:39
or trans people are gay people. It's about making sure we don't have to
33:45
talk about men. Yeah, it is. That's exactly what I've been saying.
33:50
That's that, you know. And now and now some x Y people
33:55
have found a loophole. They just they identify as women whatever that means,
34:00
whatever woman is, and suddenly they have to be listened to and there suddenly
34:07
they exist, Like isn't that astounding? It's just like you're an excellent person,
34:10
you don't exist, and then one day you're like, you know what,
34:13
I'm going to identify as a woman? WHOA Where did that person come
34:16
in from? Oh my god, how did you get in here? How
34:21
do you get past security? Did you tell itport? Like? Did you
34:24
just have apparated to the room? Where did you come from? I just
34:29
noticed? And it's like that must be, you know, for guys who've
34:31
never been noticed in their lives. I can see how that would be tempting,
34:37
but I won't go there because that's probably totally verboten. Shall we say?
34:45
Okay, okay, did we have? Okay, I got one more
34:47
super chat and then we'll get into the article more so. Uh, Gary
34:52
Thomas gives us five bucks and says hello, honey, Badger's long time no
34:54
chat and Brian's right. Stage actors in many ways are superior to TV slash
35:00
movie actors. Yes they are, and and they're they are in fact more
35:07
diverse. Not that that matters to me, but if it matters to Hollywood,
35:13
they should probably be paying attention. But that that's the thing I actually
35:15
think. In many ways the film industry and stage acting are really far apart.
35:22
Like people would think that they're analogous or worse. And I think that
35:25
most people believe this stage acting is inferior, like it's sort of like a
35:30
lesser thing. Like the people who do stage acting, a lot of them
35:34
they dream of going to Hollywood and becoming movie stars. But I don't think
35:37
that they understand that like people who work in like stage acting, they're they're
35:45
the the they will be better at doing that work than people who become celebrities
35:52
and like join the club as it were, so and they'll probably get to
35:55
keep their soul too. Betty Adams gave us a superchow I'm still getting super
36:02
Chow's and stuff now and says for five bucks. People, mostly illustrators,
36:07
have asked me an author, what I think of AI. I don't have
36:10
a fully formed opinion yet, but I am already competing with millions of human
36:15
authors willing to spam out lowest common denominator stories. So I don't know how
36:20
AI authors entering the market will change things. Well. I am of the
36:25
belief that AI can't make something completely unique, and it will pull and be
36:34
derivative of something else. So that's why I think and people will will.
36:37
I think that we can sniff that stuff out. I mean, we already
36:44
like do it with human authors that are terrible at their job. Right,
36:47
how many times have Allison? How many times have we read an article that
36:51
we thought was going to be making some kind of point and instead it's trying
36:53
to tell a story and it's doing it really badly? You know what?
37:02
Yeah? Wait, I can't hear you. You why were you muted?
37:07
Okay, go ahead? Many times, Yes, that's just what I was
37:13
saying. I just said many times I was agreeing with you, like many
37:15
times, and yes, many times I got the sense that the person who
37:19
is writing the article really wanted to be a writer, like a fiction writer.
37:24
Yes, you just didn't make it exactly a lot of times journalists are
37:30
people who wanted to be writers. Maybe they were blogging as teenagers and they
37:36
thought people would tell them, oh my god, you're writing a so good
37:38
and they're like, oh, I'm going to be a writer, and then
37:39
they like get it in their heads that they're way better than they actually are.
37:45
Dunning Krueger takes over, and they try to get into writing and they
37:47
don't quite get in there, so they go into journalism instead. I wouldn't
37:52
be surprised if a lot of people have that story. But anyway, back
37:59
to this, he said it was no longer cost effective for Vice to distribute
38:04
its digital content, including news, the way it had been. He said
38:07
Vice would be would put more emphasis on its social channels and look for different
38:12
ways to distribute its content. As part of this strategic shift, Dixon said
38:16
Vice would follow a studio model before filing for bankruptcy protection. Last year,
38:22
Vice canceled its Vice News Tonight television program as part of a round of layoffs.
38:27
Then, so I guess what we will see. We won't be seeing
38:30
as much from Vice, but they'll probably put out like videos or something like
38:36
that. Maybe not a show. Maybe they'll do expose a's like you know,
38:40
going into the didn't Vice write about MRAs or in cells or something a
38:45
few times? I'm sure they have. They've written a lot about a red
38:50
pillars. I think they were responsible for the men's rights activists, rapes victims
38:58
or something mock rape. I think, yeah, I think so, Yeah,
39:01
I think those were the Vice people. I can't remember. Yeah,
39:04
it's been such a long time that all blurs in the head are in the
39:07
mind and the memory. But we gotta we should probably get to the next
39:12
article. I've already I've already brought it up. So is this the one
39:15
you want to do next? More dads are taking parental leave than ever.
39:19
No, that is a long one because somebody had Diary of the pen again.
39:23
Oh okay, we can start. Well, we could do the next
39:27
one instead. No, no, no, we if we are disciplined,
39:30
Brian, all right, all right, all right, we got to be.
39:32
I wasn't sure what the order was supposed to be. Okay, it's
39:37
okay. I'm just saying that. I'm just warning you that we must be
39:38
disciplined if we want to get through all of it. So all right,
39:44
yeah, all right. More dads are taking parental leave than ever. Moms
39:46
aren't always happy about it. So wait what men take parental leave? Women
39:52
most affected or some birthing mothers watching their partner unwind and enjoy during their leave,
39:59
often for share inequities to come home. Boy, you know what,
40:02
speaking of art, I hate this shit right here? You see this nice
40:07
corporate art. I can't stand why do people who thinks this looks nice?
40:15
This is ugly as sin. This is the shit that you see in a
40:17
bank when you're like waiting in line to talk to a teller. This is
40:22
what the wallpaper looks like anyway, It's ugly. I hate this stuff,
40:27
this corporate art. Last year, Sam Rose ran his first ultra marathon,
40:32
a fifty kilometer race that took him seven hours, eight minutes and two seconds
40:37
to complete. But he didn't need to take days off work for the arduous
40:40
training. Rose, thirty seven, was on a twelve week paternity leave that
40:45
allowed him to train with a running stroller near his Austin home. In retrospect,
40:51
he feels he needed both tying with his son and time spent on himself
40:54
as he used to use the leave, or use the leave to officially usher
41:00
in fatherhood. It helped to have that external validation and accomplishment in the middle,
41:05
says Rose, who plays sixteenth in the race. Maybe I needed to
41:08
feel that this time was more than just watching a baby, which maybe says
41:13
something about myself or manhood. End quote. Aaron Schultz, Rose's wife says
41:19
her paternal leave felt nothing like her partners. Schultz, who runs her own
41:23
business, spend time recovery. Huh, maternally felt nothing like her partners.
41:30
Okay, keep you said paternal I believe, but Oh did I say?
41:34
Oh? Parentally is what I meant to say, parental okay, who runs
41:37
her own business? Okay, right, Schultz who runs her own business,
41:42
spend time recovering physically and focusing on the logistics required to become a parent.
41:45
Breastfeeding was challenging, and she spent hours using a breast pump. When I
41:51
was the primary caregiver, I felt like I had not moved off the couch
41:54
in days, says the thirty seven year old certified financial planner. Ok Okay.
42:01
In the US, what I just want to point out that the man
42:07
takes parental leave and successfully trains and runs a marathon without apparently without shirking his
42:15
responsibilities at home. So he takes care of his kid, he takes care
42:20
of the home, and he runs, He trains for and runs a marathon
42:24
in his twelve week paternal leave. The woman doesn't get off the couch.
42:30
Yeah, it occurs to me that maybe what we should do now is have
42:36
men stay at home, because I honestly, I'm starting to get the feeling
42:38
like if men were able to stay at home, we'd already be at alpha
42:43
centauri. Look at what they do with their time off, and look at
42:47
what women do with their time off. Yeah, I got stoned and occasionally
42:52
breastfed my child. I'm exaggerating, you know, but like it feels like
42:57
men and I don't like what's amazing about this is yet another article about women's
43:02
resentment? How is how is this supposed to change? Like? How how
43:08
are women supposed to do? Like, first of all, they are they
43:13
have to take that time off if they're I guess not healthy enough like our
43:17
our female ancestors to squat in the field give birth and then continue to to
43:22
to uh to carvest. But you know they need the time off to to
43:27
get their their get their health back. Well, how is that going to
43:30
change? Like that's just biological reality, Like are you gonna are you gonna
43:34
try to Are you going to force your man to do that for you,
43:37
to heal for you? You can't do that. So it's just like it's
43:39
just this is just an another exercise and resentment. You know, you get
43:45
you get what I'm saying. I do. I do, of course.
43:46
Yeah, I think there's a couple of things and maybe you won't like what
43:52
I'm gonna say. But how old was she when she was trying to breastfeed
43:59
because it says here that she's thirty seven years old, So did she wait
44:02
too long? Why is it there are so many women having trouble breastfeeding today,
44:08
Like you know. I brought this up because my cousin's wife has had
44:15
her third child and she is experiencing some trouble producing milk and she was going
44:23
to get formula, and I said, well, wait a minute before you
44:28
do that, because I've heard things about formula. And again I'm not an
44:30
expert, but I heard things about formula. Maybe there are other women that
44:36
are in my circle that have had multiple children that could help you. Sure
44:40
enough, there were And it was like diet, exercise, like being active,
44:45
what you eat, you know, how long you wait to start breastfeeding,
44:52
all these other factors. And I think that this woman, I mean,
44:55
I guess, you know, credit for trying to use a breast pump,
44:58
but I wonder if if you aren't, if you didn't wait too long
45:01
to start this whole process, and you have regret and instead you're just gonna
45:06
blame your husband because he manages to balance your time. Plus being a mother
45:10
means that what you're not offended by that? Well, why would I be.
45:15
I don't know, like maybe because I'm suggesting that she probably should and
45:20
I know it, you know, hindsight's twenty twenty. But maybe you know,
45:24
like if you wait until you're like in your thirties to have a kid,
45:27
it's going to create some trouble. And this is something that we should
45:30
What I'm saying is is that people should be talking about this stuff upfront instead
45:35
of saying, well, you know, my husband, I'm mad at him
45:38
because he doesn't have to breastfeed, like you're oppressed by your biology, because
45:44
you know, he he doesn't have to do that shit. So I'm just
45:47
maybe it isn't even the age. Maybe it's the fact that she figured after
45:52
she gave birth, what she's gonna do is just sit on the couch instead
45:57
of employing some discipline to start getting exercise, start eating right. So that
46:02
I do think that our diet, I think that women's diet affects their lactation.
46:07
Well, you know, no doubt it does, and like, yeah,
46:09
well you prove it with the whole situation with your cousin because of life.
46:15
But my point is that maybe she took this whole situation not as a
46:21
child, like not looking at her situation and saying, Okay, I need
46:24
to get myself physically capable of doing this task. Yes, Instead, she
46:30
just said, you know, I'm just gonna what is it called lazy girl?
46:35
Like, I'm just gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna just sit on my ass
46:38
and just and then when when when my husband shows me up for the lazy
46:45
fuck I am, I'm going to feel resentment and I'm gonna blame him.
46:50
No, You're just lazy? Like how bad was did you have a c
46:53
section? Like? I mean how bad? Right? Right? I'm saying
47:00
is that? I mean, if she had a c section, you can
47:02
understand it. But because she went through surgery. But if she's had a
47:07
normal birth, at some point, she's got to take her responsibility for her
47:12
health and she should be out there walking, She should be out there improving
47:15
her diet in whatever way she can. She shouldn't be making excuses for herself
47:21
to sit on a couch like And then the other thing is that she's self
47:23
employed, right, yeah, are you telling me? Like? And yeah,
47:29
I know that it's it's it's a it's a physically straining thing, especially
47:32
for women today who are the laziest women in all of human existence. But
47:37
you know it if if you, I mean, is there no sense of
47:42
responsibility to to your own health and to the health of your child via your
47:46
own health there? Like, is there nothing that you and then and then
47:50
again to engage in this kind of laziness and then be resentful towards your your
47:55
husband Because I would imagine that training to run a marathon is physically arduous,
48:04
exhausting, and extremely painful, and you're basically saying, yeah, I just
48:10
wasn't able to do that. Like, I don't know how it compares to
48:15
recovering from birth. I'd have to I don't know if women who've recovered from
48:19
birth can correspond to that, but I mean it's not I would imagine that
48:24
there must be some similarity there in terms of getting your body back into condition
48:29
or getting him into condition. So but ultimately, look, if you did
48:34
spend the entire time sitting on the couch, fine, don't be resentful for
48:38
your husband because he didn't because he did something that was good for his son
48:42
or for your child and himself, Like, why would you feel resentment towards
48:47
that? I agree, this is something that baffles me every time I hear
48:54
these these these articles from women, uh, and I don't like. For
49:00
whatever reason, this seems to be something that either resonates with women or a
49:04
lot of women agree with it, because they certainly don't do articles like my
49:08
husband took a paternity leave and I was thrilled. I was, I was
49:15
so appreciative and I thought it was a great time, Like he managed to
49:17
do this amazing thing and he got he was. I mean, can you
49:22
imagine the article like my husband ran a marathon during his paternity leave and he
49:27
got hit. You know, he did all of these new milestones with my
49:30
son. It was amazing to see. I am so grateful for having such
49:34
a go getter of a husband who's so willing to blah blah. Do you
49:37
ever see an article like that? Ever, it's all this this unending stream
49:44
of resentment and then and then women have the audacity to talk about emotional labor.
49:51
Really, have you ever considered not resenting your house for like five minutes,
49:55
because I imagine that's exhausting to deal with that, in dealing with your
50:00
constant stream of resentment. And again, I never see the reverse articles,
50:05
so obviously those don't hit a nerve. You know, those don't sell the
50:10
grateful women where are they? Because we're seeing a lot of resentful women.
50:15
You don't think that having to deal with your partner's resentment over you just being
50:21
successful or enjoying yourself or bonding with your child, you don't think that requires
50:25
emotional labor, like seriously. So anyway, that's that's my thoughts. But
50:30
I don't even know if we need to go much further because it's pretty much
50:34
all in this vein. Yeah, the men absolutely crush parental leave. They're
50:40
like, you know that, I can guess they know how to optimize.
50:45
They optimize it, how to optimize. So it's like, yeah, we
50:49
we we managed to land a probe on Mars, and I got my son
50:52
to speak French and Spanish with my three month parental leave. And then the
50:57
women are like, oh my god, I can't fucking believe it. I
51:00
can't oh, I can't stand the fact that my husband is such a good
51:02
husband and father. It's just so much resentment that he is awesome. You
51:08
know, it's just like I feel his burning hatred in my stomach towards my
51:12
awesome husband. It's like, Okay, it gets tedious I mean, we
51:20
can continue, but it just sort of goes. No, it's okay.
51:22
I think we got them to get better. No, it doesn't. No,
51:27
she has a husband that utterly crushed parental leave. Right, and then
51:32
I'll give you I'll give you one more. There's one more example. The
51:37
guy successfully purchased a house, got the move during his parental leave, and
51:42
got his son through several milestones, and she was feeling resentment towards that.
51:46
And the conclusion is that parental leave has to be restructured so that somehow women
51:53
can take the leave while they're recovering and also later on in the child's so
52:00
they can enjoy a child that is more responsive. I guess, of course,
52:05
what are they gonna do. Then they're just gonna sit on the couch
52:07
again, you know, And the husband gets the parental leave at that point
52:13
once again, he's probably gonna crush it. Because the real problem is that
52:16
these men are taking this time to get shit done. That's the real problem.
52:22
They're getting shit done. They're improving their relationships with their children, they're
52:25
getting healthier, they're doing they're doing they're moving things forward in terms of all
52:34
kinds of logistics for the family. Like, you give men time off and
52:38
suddenly, you know, like they mountains a removed. You give women time
52:44
off and the woman gains twenty pounds and the cowsh cushions become more concave,
52:50
you know, like, and that's the problem. And women see this and
52:53
they feel resentment because explain this this women, that's that's the article. That's
53:06
just the article. Good grief. All right, all right, So I
53:13
got a super chow and then I guess we can go to the last article.
53:17
Let me share it now. Richard Bierre gives us five bucks and says,
53:23
so if unemployed coal miners are given typewriters, will their combined efforts actually
53:29
be better quality than what these outlets are producing? Does that have to be
53:32
old timey typewriters. I don't, does anyone use time writers anymore? I
53:38
find the whole. I mean, they should be old timy typewriters. Well
53:42
like the raised keys and it makes the tack tack sound, you know,
53:47
you know, yes, I tack tack. I'd like that. Yes,
53:54
I think they could actually, because all they have to do is to be
53:58
a good journalist is basically like want to find the truth and then want to
54:00
share the basics, what is it, what, when, where, why
54:07
and how? And you're done. That's all you got to do. That's
54:12
it. No need to editorialize. Nobody wants to know your opinion. We
54:16
just want to know what happens. We can come to our own conclusions.
54:20
That's it anyway, Thank you, Richard or the super chow So last story
54:30
in this is kind of interesting from the Guardian. More women may be psychopaths
54:38
than previously thought, says expert who had that on their bingo card. No
54:45
bingo card today, by the way, Oh man, that really should surprise
54:52
no one, I think. Yeah, I mean you have to have a
54:58
strain of sociopathy or psycle sociotioy psychopathy, psychopathy no psychopathy is more like being
55:06
broken away from reality. Sociopathy. Yeah, you have to be a bit
55:13
of a sociopath, especially, like, at what point do we look at
55:17
all of these articles like the last one we just read where women are resentful
55:22
of the fact that men are bonding with their children and you know, improving
55:29
their health and improving their their life circumstance, the families life circumstance during their
55:35
parental leave. At what point do we look at that and say, if
55:39
you feel resentment over that, there is something wrong with you emotionally, like
55:46
you are probably a psychopath or you probably have something on the dark triad.
55:52
You get what I'm saying, Like dark trials. People can't take pleasure in
55:58
the successes of others, is what I'm getting at. And that's what you
56:01
see with these all of these women resentful articles. They just cannot take pleasure
56:07
in the successes, the comfort, the fun of their male partners. They
56:14
can't see their male partner laughing and be like, Wow, that's that's really
56:17
great. That makes me, that makes me feel that's so wholesome. I
56:21
feel good inside. No, it's like, why is he happy? Is
56:24
he getting something from me? Ah? I dominated him enough. Ay,
56:30
he's stealing from me. He's stealing the happiness in the fact, in the
56:34
relationship from me. I mean this, Do you notice that it's so mean
56:38
spirited and endless? You know, any everything is zero. It really only
56:45
can be explained by that kind of dark triad inability to take joy in the
56:52
joys of others. The fact that apparently the average woman, I judging from
57:00
the loudest voices in the room and all of the women's media, which is
57:05
consumed by women and presumably is created for them. And also feminism, which
57:10
is the loudest political voice for women. Judging from all of that, women
57:15
really struggle with this kind of shared joy. Instead, it becomes a resentment,
57:24
a point of resentment, right, And that actually really really says something.
57:30
Don't you think I resist coming to this conclusion. I resist coming to
57:37
this conclusion, But it's almost inevitable when you look at what women choose to
57:43
consume, what women pay to consume, what voices women support in their lives,
57:51
that they really struggle with this basic level of compassion and theory of mind,
57:59
which is sharing in the joys of others, in particular the joys of
58:02
the person you supposedly love. They really struggle with that. And I think
58:09
that really sort of ties into this idea that maybe there's more sociopathy among women,
58:17
the sociopath sociopathy among women than we thought. Okay, continue, Brian,
58:25
Sorry that was a long rant. All right, we're gonna start reading
58:28
the article now. So psychology more women, maybe psychopaths and previously thought,
58:34
says expert doctor Clive Body says, assessment skews towards up obviously obvious male trades,
58:40
but female psychopathy is more subtle. Well, at least you're acknowledging it
58:46
instead of calling it a male trade, which kind of bothers me. When
58:51
it comes to typical A typical psychopath the student and booted Patrick Bateman from the
58:55
novel American Psycho might spring to mind, but according to one expert, the
59:00
number of women with the neural psychiatric disorder could be far greater than previously thought.
59:07
Well, first, your first mistake was thinking this is a movie.
59:09
It's also science. No, it's a movie. Like just separate, separate
59:17
yourself from your fucking shit that you consume. Like, separate it because you
59:23
don't know if the person who wrote that book knows anything about mental health.
59:28
They just wanted to tell a story. Stop it, stop it, Okay,
59:31
sorry, I just wanted to get that off my chest. Psychopaths are
59:36
generally considered to lack empathy and guilt, exhibit antisocial behavior, live frequently,
59:42
and be ruthless, narcissistic and manipulative. Yeah, those are male traits,
59:47
right. Psychopaths are after money, power, and control, said doctor Clive
59:53
Body from an Angela Ruskin University, who is an expert on psychopaths in the
1:00:00
corporate world. Oh my god. While the idea of psychopaths as violent,
1:00:07
antisocial criminals has given way to a more nuanced view, with Body among those
1:00:13
to argue that they are often found in big business, the idea that they
1:00:16
are mostly male has remained that just like, why does it to me?
1:00:20
It sounds like activism to just be like, yeah, I think that psychopaths
1:00:22
are in like they're they're in big business, like yeah, but they're also
1:00:27
surgeons, like people who have to do people who work in the medical field
1:00:32
doing like like they have to be exposed to extremely disgusting things like field medics
1:00:39
or something, probably also benefit from psychopathic traits because in order to do their
1:00:45
job. So like, maybe this is not as simple as man like money
1:00:52
greedy killed people in way like that. That's such a stupid simplistic way to
1:00:57
frame this. I'm just annoyed by that, Like, come on, it's
1:01:01
got a use, and I think that most of the time people with these
1:01:07
traits managed to harness it in a productive way. So uh, anyway,
1:01:16
while you see, uh, yeah, While the idea of psychopaths as violent,
1:01:22
anti social criminals has given way to a more nuanced view, with Body
1:01:25
among those to argue that they are often found in big business. The idea
1:01:30
that they are mostly male has remained. The behavior of female psychopaths seems to
1:01:34
be subtle enough and less obvious than male psychopaths, and therefore they're not recognized
1:01:38
as much. Body said, I mean to recognize as such? Maybe is
1:01:43
that a mistake? A small but mounting body of evidence describes female psychopaths as
1:01:49
prone to expressing violence verbally rather than physically, huh, with the violence being
1:01:53
of a relational and emotional nature, more subtle and less obvious than that expressed
1:01:59
by male p cycle paths, he noted, adding that may include spreading rumors
1:02:02
and lies for personal advantage. No shit, you mean like making allegations.
1:02:07
You mean like clauding gay who accused the professor of sexual harassment or at least
1:02:14
like joined in on his suspension. Or first of all, what was that?
1:02:20
Yeah, Amber heard, Yeah, there's just a random example, hold
1:02:23
right out of thin air. But like, arez are male psychopaths, Like
1:02:32
they're describing it as physical violence? Like is that again? Do you watch
1:02:37
too many movies? Like? I think that honestly? Like, uh,
1:02:42
and I've actually looked at this psych criminals. Uh, there is like a
1:02:50
high degree of antisocial personality, like the genetic markers for anti social personality disorder
1:02:54
among male criminals, and it's almost one hundred percent among female criminals from what
1:02:59
I've seen. Sure, but for the most part, if someone is well
1:03:07
treated, like if if they have the genetic markers for antisocial personality to disorder,
1:03:12
but they grow up in a stable family, they won't become violent or
1:03:16
criminal, right, They'll they'll actually just be sort of uniquely ambitious. They
1:03:22
probably even necessarily become like a super manipulative because they won't really have a motive
1:03:29
to do it. Because a lot of our stuff is driven emotionally, and
1:03:31
if you don't give a child an emotional motive to constantly control its environment because
1:03:37
you're not beating it or otherwise abusing it, then then they won't have that
1:03:43
kind of motive. So, like it really is a combination of these genetic
1:03:50
factors. Also low impulse control, yes IQ, low IQ, a abuse
1:04:00
of unstable environments that can create these kind of violent criminals. So you were
1:04:05
talking about how in certain circumstances these traits might be adaptive, You're right,
1:04:11
And if the individuals are not in a situation where they're they're living through abuse
1:04:16
and violence. They usually can adapt pretty well to society and they just get
1:04:24
drawn to certain jobs that a lot of people don't want because of this level
1:04:28
of stress or like yeahtibility and stuff like that. Yeah, and it's so
1:04:34
it's it's like, yeah, but I think they're they're they're they're describing that
1:04:38
They're like this is this is a misnomer, that it's all about violence.
1:04:42
Yeah, yeah, exactly. But I mean, I'm glad they're pointing that
1:04:45
out, But like, there there is a I guess, well, I
1:04:49
don't want to be too nitpicky, but if a woman puts her baby in
1:04:55
a microwave, I think that's considered physical violence. So and I think that
1:05:00
they're saying that women don't do it the way men do it. But I
1:05:03
think it comes down to whether or not a woman has a distinct advantage.
1:05:10
So if if if someone is unconscious, like if they let's say, let's
1:05:15
remove the other factors out. Let's say they're completely antisocial, they really want
1:05:18
to hurt people, like they are the kind of like extreme psychopath that this
1:05:24
article is referring to. A female that feels this way would would act violently
1:05:31
if they knew they could do so without any consequences. So that would be
1:05:36
on children, on animals, and on maybe on adults that aren't able to
1:05:42
protect themselves, like they're disabled, or they're infirmed, or they're unconscious or
1:05:46
whatever. I mean, Like when you see when you have these stories of
1:05:49
women who cut off their husband's penises and throw them in their garbage disposal,
1:05:54
Like, how is that not psychopathic behavior? Mm hmm it is, so
1:06:00
it is, but yeah, and Lucy let Be is an example. When
1:06:08
women engage in this behavior, they do it with plausible deniability, and they
1:06:12
do it against the most vulnerable who often can't speak out or even fight back.
1:06:16
So you know that's something to consider. And when Amber Heard does it,
1:06:21
it's she's she's doing it through reputation, destruction and allegation and systemic violence,
1:06:28
like you know, using the police or authorities against men. Yeah,
1:06:32
using institutional bias against her victim. Right, But yes, but I mean,
1:06:40
the the the cause is the same, Like if if she could do
1:06:47
it to a child or a baby, then she wouldn't need to use those
1:06:55
other tools. So it's just a matter of like women having access to different
1:06:58
tools in fact, I think that potentially women can do way more damage because
1:07:03
men couldn't really exercise the same institutional methods, so they almost always have to
1:07:12
come down to pick up rock, you know, and hit guy with rock
1:07:15
or something. But anyway, I'll get back to the article. I'm just
1:07:21
saying there there. Maybe I guess they're just trying to be efficient. I
1:07:26
don't know. A small but mounting body of evidence describes female psychopaths as prone
1:07:33
to expressing. Okay, I already read that, but body said. One
1:07:36
problem was that part of the assessment used to identify psychopaths, known as the
1:07:42
Levinson Self Report Psychopathy Scale, was skewed towards identifying the disorder of in men.
1:07:49
Yeah, a self report psychopathy scale was skewed towards identifying the disorder in
1:07:58
men. So there's an anti male bias inherent to the scale they're using.
1:08:02
Women tend to respond in consistent with what they what socially expected, so they
1:08:10
have to also consider that as well. I don't know if they did in
1:08:12
this case, but m hmm, there's a way to control from that,
1:08:15
so that you'd have to make sure they did that. Okay, So what's
1:08:18
the uh, what's the next part, all right, that, he said,
1:08:21
was because while the first part of the assessment looked at how emotionally detached,
1:08:26
selfish, uncaring, and manipulative a person was, the second part,
1:08:29
which covered the psychopathic lifestyle, focused on violence and antisocial behavior. The secondary
1:08:33
element and the measures for it were largely based on studies of criminals who were
1:08:38
in jail at the time and psychopathic so the feeling is amongst researchers these days
1:08:45
that those measures are just not suited to identifying female female psychopathy. There had
1:08:50
also been fewer studies looking at psychopathy in women than in men, he said,
1:08:57
and assessors may be reluctant to label women as psychopaths. Some estimates have
1:09:00
suggested what was that, go ahead? No, I just said what a
1:09:03
surprise? Not yeah, what a surprise. Some estimates have suggested that could
1:09:09
be a ten to one ratio of male to female psychopaths, but bodies work
1:09:14
using only the first part of the LSRP suggested the figures were very different.
1:09:18
It's almost one to one, body said, although he noted large scale studies
1:09:24
of randomly chosen adults will be needed to get a more definitive picture. So
1:09:28
basically it's similar to what we were talking about with regards to the rates of
1:09:32
domestic violence. So it's turning out that yeah, women are just as or
1:09:39
at least with domestic violence. Women seem just as likely to be the aggressors
1:09:45
as men, and they just have different ways of doing it. And I
1:09:48
think the same could be true of psychopathy. And why not. I mean,
1:09:53
I guess we'd have to see if they actually do a study and come
1:09:57
to this conclusion. Body, who is due to give a talk on female
1:10:01
psychopaths at the Cambridge Festival next month, said that while an estimated one percent
1:10:06
of men were psychopaths, the diagnosis sat at one end of the spectrum.
1:10:11
Estimates using the first part of the LSRP suggests there are about twenty three percent
1:10:15
of men who, although they're not categorically psychopathic, have enough of these traits
1:10:20
to be a problem or pre problematic for society, he said. Body's own
1:10:25
research, based on surveys of white collar workers, suggested such traits were not
1:10:30
uncommon in females. Around twelve to thirteen percent of females have enough of these
1:10:33
traits to be potentially problematic, he said. Recognizing psychopathy and women and men
1:10:40
was important, Body said, not least because such individuals could have a huge
1:10:44
impact on the workplace, with employees sidelined, abused, and bullied. In
1:10:47
addition, he noted businesses led by such individuals could call, could lose direction,
1:10:53
and it could affect how people are viewed or how people viewed. Large
1:10:58
organizations the greed, untruthfulness and ruthlessness of those at the top, and this
1:11:03
undermines democracy and rule of law, he says. Body advocated for screening to
1:11:10
be applied to job applicants to help protect employees, especially the higher up you
1:11:14
go in terms of seniority, therefore you have more power and control. The
1:11:17
more of those sorts of screening tests and psychometric tests are needed, he said
1:11:23
in the article. Okay, well, I mean, I think that's an
1:11:26
interesting finding. I think that they're probably not super surprising, but good that
1:11:31
people are talking about even twenty to like twenty three to thirteen is probably I
1:11:39
think there are like, ultimately the takeaways that there are a lot more female
1:11:43
so ship paths than we're allowing ourselves to admit in the world. Yeah,
1:11:47
and it's important to consider that. And yeah, that's why I included this
1:11:53
in our little it is stories medley of story. I'll go with what you
1:12:00
say. Uh, pop prey is not correct, Potpourri, potpery, our
1:12:08
buffet, our selection, our medley, our remix, O remix, Yeah,
1:12:16
our remix. This is our remix, guys remix. Okay, all
1:12:23
right, So I got another super Chow and some super Chats. Okay,
1:12:27
guys, I'm gonna I'm gonna take I'm gonna give skeep you a break.
1:12:31
He looks like you're taking a break. Our dogs are sleeping, both of
1:12:35
them. Yeah, yeah, I just don't know how interesting it is just
1:12:40
to look at him as he is right now. Well, they're looking at
1:12:43
Jojo too, and he's also sleeping Jo. Well, I just want I
1:12:47
want you some right now. Okay, what happens if I say I'll say
1:12:53
skeep you, keep you? He sighed. He's like, no, I'm
1:12:58
not getting up. It's okay, leave him alone. That a long day.
1:13:04
I'm gonna turn okay, turn off the Scipio cam. I will turn
1:13:14
it off over here, all right, okay, Okay, so, uh
1:13:24
yeah, super Chats and super Chows. I'm gonna read the super Chow and
1:13:28
the super Chats. Richard Brierre gives us five dollars and says the husband who
1:13:33
upstaged his wife is the devil himself Alison, after all, his accomplishments make
1:13:39
her look insignificant. As far as psychopathic women go, the above video link
1:13:43
might be relevant. I don't see did he link a video? Is he
1:13:48
talking about? You're talking about something else. He's some about the thing he
1:13:51
sent you before. Could you reread it? I think I was referenced.
1:13:57
As far as psychopathic women go, the above video link might be relevant,
1:14:03
referring to in the discord the video he sent you is this Richard Beer.
1:14:11
Yes, okay, maybe yeah, maybe we haven't looked at it yet.
1:14:19
Rusty Camper sent us two pounds, and I think it's like it looks like
1:14:23
an exercising pair and it says cool, thank you, Rusty Camper. I
1:14:29
can't display those. I don't know why they got to fix that shit.
1:14:30
And then he sent another super chow or super chat sorry for two dollars and
1:14:36
said they play mind games to find something against you. Thank you two pounds.
1:14:41
I say two two dollars or two pound two pounds, all right,
1:14:45
thank you, my good man. And that I think is all of the
1:14:50
super chats and super chows. Do you have any Are you sure you've done
1:14:57
all of this? Yeah, I've read them. I'm seeing like, okay,
1:15:00
I see one, two three four five, I see five after the
1:15:04
video one two three, four five six. You got Betty Adams super check
1:15:13
yep. I read that one. Yep. Oh okay, all right,
1:15:15
oh yeah, I see okay, yeah, I read the moment. I
1:15:20
get it all right, okay, yeah, so yeah, he probably is
1:15:24
referring to that link. Now I've figured out where we're at. Sorry,
1:15:27
guys, I got coming. Oh it's okay, yeah, yeah, no,
1:15:30
no, it may be. It may be relevant. He's talking about
1:15:33
the link that he sent the raw Attractive Power All Men Have that Women Won't
1:15:39
Admit Feeling, which is basically a video on a woman who admits that when
1:15:44
a man gets angry, she feels attracted to him even when she doesn't find
1:15:46
him attractive usually and that upsets her. And I don't know it's a woman
1:15:51
moment, good lord, but we'll be going through it and it's probably an
1:15:56
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1:16:35
has any final thoughts. Do you have any thank yous to give? Or
1:16:39
are we not quiet? I think no, it's been quiet tonight. Oh
1:16:43
wait, I do have a thank you for missus ann of Arc who gave
1:16:45
us ten dollars before the show, So thank you. Oh all right,
1:16:50
well thank you for that. Okay, all right, And I think that's
1:17:00
pretty much it, because I think that everything else was just was super chows.
1:17:04
So we've all we've already covered them, all right, sounds good,
1:17:08
Well we're gonna Yeah, what no, I was, I was, I
1:17:12
was we're done. I was all right again, but I was trying to
1:17:15
gauge what you were gonna do then. Oh, I was about to wrap
1:17:18
it up. So yeah, yeah, So we got the new show tomorrow
1:17:21
and then Wednesday, we're gonna do something with Karen. Maybe we were gonna
1:17:26
do something with her today, but like she something came up with her.
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Snow snow, Yeah, snow came up. Snow came up, well down,
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I don't know what that is. We don't have that here. Uh
1:17:39
well, uh yeah, so we'll see. Maybe we'll do something with Karen
1:17:43
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