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- 0:00So did you mean anything to a narcissist?
- 0:05Yeah, that's the question that has plagued the mind of so many,
- 0:11so many survivors. So many of y'all have asked me
- 0:14this question in some way, shape or form it It might be in my
- 0:17comment section on YouTube, TikTok, Instagram, whatever.
- 0:20It might be in my 1 of ones over Zoom.
- 0:22It might be in my support group believe that mean anything to
- 0:25them, like was I special to them in any way or was I just another
- 0:28check mark or another tick, another check box or whatever it
- 0:32may be, right? That's what we're covering it
- 0:34today. Y'all, if you knew her.
- 0:35My name is Lee Hammock. I'm a diagnosed narcissist and
- 0:38we're chatting today, y'all on a narcissist code about your value
- 0:42to a narcissist, your value, your worth.
- 0:44So I use those words, but don't conflate.
- 0:49Don't don't get it twisted. Your value in your worth and or
- 0:54your worth are not determined by a narcissist.
- 0:58It's impossible. A narcissist cannot determine
- 1:01your value or your worth. They're not qualified to do
- 1:04that. They're not qualified appraisers
- 1:07of an A highly empathetic person's value or worth.
- 1:11They're not qualified to appraise you.
- 1:13They they didn't go to appraiser school.
- 1:14They don't have an impact appraiser license.
- 1:17They cannot determine your worth or your value.
- 1:19So let's get that out the way first.
- 1:22But did you mean something to them?
- 1:26Hey, it depends. I know this when I wish I wanted
- 1:31to hear like Lee. What the hell it depends like
- 1:34get get Lee hammock on my screen right now.
- 1:36You dread head piece of beep. What I do I don't look.
- 1:42I don't make the rules. It really does depend right?
- 1:45So if you are a fling, if you are a fling, did they just call
- 1:50at 11:30 at night or 1:00 in the morning?
- 1:54You get AU up text, you probably don't mean as much, right?
- 1:58Think about that. If you if they just text you at
- 1:59night to come over there and bounce on top of you or get
- 2:02behind you or on top of you for a little while, you probably
- 2:05don't mean much other than a a a a big O or a little O or
- 2:08whatever right. You probably don't mean much.
- 2:11Let's keep it hot. Let's keep it ready.
- 2:12If you're just FWB or a situation ship, you probably
- 2:16don't mean much to that narcissistic person.
- 2:18So think about it right here. Why I know we, we in the age of
- 2:23hookup culture, y'all think that shit cool or whatever.
- 2:26It's not it's not. I'm just telling you, if they
- 2:29don't establish a relationship with you and they're just
- 2:31calling you at 11:30 at night, 12:00 at night, 1:00 in the
- 2:34morning and you're acquiescing to their request and you're
- 2:38letting them come over there and crack or pop or just bounce on
- 2:41top of you, whatever, like they're not going to value you
- 2:44at all. But maybe if I get them some
- 2:46buns, they'll they'll value me and put me in a relationship
- 2:49later. Why would they do that?
- 2:51If they're getting what they want from you?
- 2:54You know what I'm saying? If they, if I, if I come over
- 2:56there and and if I, if I pleasure her, she'll she'll love
- 2:59me later on. Why would they do that if
- 3:02they're already getting what they want from you now, why
- 3:05would they establish any type of title, any type of dates or
- 3:08anything like that? Why would they do that?
- 3:11They don't have to. Why would they do something that
- 3:13something that they don't have to do?
- 3:15I would just say that right there.
- 3:16Why would they go above and beyond for someone that they
- 3:19don't have to go above and beyond for?
- 3:21It's if it's not a prerequisite, if it's not required, why would
- 3:24they do that? And this is not me trying to
- 3:26bash y'all who choose to live this type of lifestyle.
- 3:29It's just if you have a goal in mind, if you want, you want a
- 3:32serious relationship, don't just let them come over at 1:00 or
- 3:352:00 in the morning. That doesn't work.
- 3:37They're not going to value you anymore because you're available
- 3:40to them. I'll just say it like that.
- 3:42You're they're not going to value it, value you at 3:00 in
- 3:45the morning. So if that's your relationship
- 3:47dynamic, if that's what if this would, if that is the parameters
- 3:52of your relationship, then you probably don't matter as much.
- 3:56Just be real. You probably don't matter as
- 3:58much if those if those are the parameters of your relationship.
- 4:03Now, on the other side of things.
- 4:06Now remember at the beginning I said it depends.
- 4:09So on the on the other side of things, think about it like
- 4:12this. If you're dealing with a
- 4:14manipulative, abusive, toxic ass person, right?
- 4:16And it's been going on for a while.
- 4:18If this relationship has any type of longevity, this
- 4:21relationship has been going on for a while, then you might mean
- 4:24something to them, right? If it's not just a 3:00 in the
- 4:29morning booty call or, or, or hookup or whatever, then you
- 4:34might mean something to them, right?
- 4:37And not, like I said, and this is not a flex.
- 4:39Don't we just be like, well, Lisa, if they don't just call me
- 4:42at 3:00 in the morning, we're in a relationship.
- 4:44It's a flex. Like, I mean something to them.
- 4:47Yeah. There are so many people that I
- 4:49talked to that that wish they meant nothing to a narcissist.
- 4:53Because if you mean something to them, they can become obsessed
- 4:56with you. I know some of y'all like, oh,
- 4:58they're obsessed with me. You.
- 5:00Hey, there's a lot of good therapists around to help you
- 5:02out and understand why you want a narcissist obsessed with you.
- 5:05Right. But the obsession can make them
- 5:08dangerous. That obsession can make them
- 5:11lose their minds and go crazy. It's not a narcissist or a toxic
- 5:14person that's obsessed with you. It's not a flex, right?
- 5:18So when you, if you mean something to a narcissist again,
- 5:22which the narcissist does not carry any weight in your life.
- 5:26What you mean to a narcissist does not carry any weight in the
- 5:29real world. This is just me making this
- 5:31video. If you mean you see the
- 5:34quotation marks. If you mean something to a
- 5:36narcissist, a lot of times they think they own you.
- 5:43They think you belong to them. If you mean anything to me, then
- 5:48you belong to me. That's what happens right there.
- 5:52If you mean something to me, then I think you belong to me.
- 5:55So I'm going to treat you like you belong to me.
- 5:58You see how that works right there?
- 6:00I'm going to treat you like you belong to me.
- 6:02If I think you belong to me, I'm going to treat you as such.
- 6:06So they're going to, if they think you belong to them or they
- 6:09own you, they're going to act like it.
- 6:11They're going to treat you like you belong to them and that's
- 6:14not a good thing. I'm telling you, you don't want
- 6:16a narcissist that thinks that they belong.
- 6:19You belong to them. You don't want that.
- 6:21I know some of you. I do kind of want it.
- 6:23I do want them. I just want to know that matter
- 6:24to them. That's why therapy is so
- 6:27important if you're healing for a narcissist.
- 6:29That's why talking to a therapist or a coach or someone
- 6:32is so important to understand why you want to mean so much to
- 6:36this abusive, lying, cheating ass person, right?
- 6:39I know most people just want to know that they matter, and I get
- 6:42that, right? I understand that you want to
- 6:44know that you mattered, but you want to know that you mattered
- 6:46in the right way to the right person.
- 6:49This is probably not the right person, especially with the way
- 6:52that they treated you, especially with how the
- 6:54relationship ended or how it's currently going.
- 6:56There's so many people that are battling dealing with this
- 6:59narcissistic person about how things are actually transpiring
- 7:02right now. So that's something you have to
- 7:04do. That's something you have to
- 7:05reconcile with within yourself. Like why do I want to mean so
- 7:09much to this person? Because narcissist, I'm just
- 7:12keeping it hot with you. Like the more you mean to a
- 7:15narcissist, the more they think you belong to them, the harder
- 7:17it is for you for them to let you go, right?
- 7:21They get restraining orders. You, you can get a restraining
- 7:24order. You can get them locked up.
- 7:26They'll still be trying to come back into your life.
- 7:28They don't care. They will still try to find
- 7:32their way back into your life. They'll promise to change.
- 7:35They'll go to therapy. They'll be praying they'll do
- 7:37whatever it takes to get back into your life in some
- 7:39manipulative type of way. But is it genuine?
- 7:42No, it's not genuine. It's if y'all this is this is my
- 7:46thought right here. And you don't have again, you
- 7:48can disagree with me. I truly do not believe that fast
- 7:53change is real. I don't think if anybody changes
- 7:58overnight to keep you or like you've been begging them to do
- 8:01something and then all of a sudden now, now because you've
- 8:03left, they want to do it. That's not real.
- 8:06That's just another form of manipulation.
- 8:09That's what you have to wake up to right there.
- 8:11If they're if you've been begging them to do something and
- 8:14you finally decide to leave and now they want to do something,
- 8:17now they want to do it, That's fake.
- 8:19That's them being manipulative again.
- 8:22That's the that's the little manipulation.
- 8:24Popping his head, peeking his stinking ass head above the
- 8:26water like this. Hey, that's what that is right
- 8:29there. So that's something you
- 8:31absolutely have to consider right there when you're dealing
- 8:33with a manipulative, abusive ass person.
- 8:36They're going to do this a lot. They are.
- 8:39They're going to do this a lot, a lot.
- 8:42So that's something that you have to battle with or you have
- 8:44to deal with as you continue to move forward, as you continue to
- 8:47heal and as you continue to grow.
- 8:49Like that narcissistic person does not get to dictate your
- 8:52worth there or your value. And the the crazy thing about it
- 8:55is it's going to sound backwards.
- 8:57It's going to sound counterintuitive.
- 8:59The more you mean to a narcissist, sometimes the less
- 9:02the worse. They're going to make you feel.
- 9:04They're going to devalue the hell out of you, to make you
- 9:07question your own self worth and value, to make you feel like
- 9:10there's no one else out there going to want you other than
- 9:12them. They're going to make you feel
- 9:14like it's worth. It's you wasting your time if
- 9:16you leave them because you're never going to be happy again.
- 9:18Nobody else is going to want you.
- 9:20You got too many kids, you're broke, you're a bum, you're too
- 9:22short, you're too fat, you're too skinny, you're too tall,
- 9:24whatever it is, right? You're ugly, you're not
- 9:27attractive, you bald headed right.
- 9:29You stink. They're going to try to devalue
- 9:33you. The more you mean to a
- 9:34narcissist, they're going to try to make you feel less because
- 9:37they don't want anybody else to have you and they want to
- 9:38convince you that nobody else is going to want you.
- 9:40That way you stay with them, right?
- 9:42If I can successfully convince you that nobody else is going to
- 9:45want you, then typically you're going to stay with me.
- 9:48Think about like that. If I convince you that no one is
- 9:52going to want you, that means you're going to stay with me,
- 9:55right? That means you're going to end
- 9:56up staying with me. That means you're going to end
- 9:59up wanting to be with me for a very, very long time.
- 10:02And that's the way it goes. That's the way it's going to
- 10:04work to as you continue to heal, as you continue to grow, that's
- 10:07something you need to think about.
- 10:08Like the more you matter to a narcissist, a lot of times the
- 10:11worse they're going to try to make you feel right.
- 10:14And that's what you have to. That's what you have to compete
- 10:16with in your own mind. Like, OK, they're making me feel
- 10:20bad. Is this true for yourself?
- 10:24This is why self love is so important when you're trying to
- 10:27heal from a narcissistically abusive relationship.
- 10:29Because like, you got to ask yours to answer these questions
- 10:32right here. Is all these things that they're
- 10:34saying true? Or they BS in with me to try to
- 10:36get me to stay with them? Or they BS ING me to try to get
- 10:39me to stay here with to try to get me to believe this crap.
- 10:43Or they trying to make me question my own self worth or
- 10:45value just so I can stay with them.
- 10:48Is that what they're doing here? Those are questions you really
- 10:50truly have to ask yourself at the body.
- 10:52This kind of like Stone Cold Steve Austin.
- 10:54And that's the bottom line. Cause Stone Cold said so type of
- 10:58vibes, right? That's the stuff you have to ask
- 11:01yourself. So what did you mean to a
- 11:02narcissist? It really just depends.
- 11:04Did you mean anything to them? It really just depends.
- 11:06Like in a crazy thing about it as y'all.
- 11:08Even if you mean something to them, it does not mean that they
- 11:11won't cheat on you. Narcissistic people are very
- 11:15good at compartmentalizing their thoughts.
- 11:17I can feel like I care about you and you belong to me, but I can
- 11:21also be cheated on you and feeling the same way about
- 11:24multiple other people. I have different compartments in
- 11:26my mind. You see, just because you might
- 11:29mean something to them doesn't mean they're going to treat you
- 11:32better. They might actually treat you
- 11:33worse. They're still going to cheat on
- 11:34you. They're still going to they're
- 11:35still going to emotionally and sometimes physically abuse you.
- 11:38You're not you're not going to be immune to it.
- 11:41So like I mean something to them and I'll say this right here in
- 11:45closing y'all, longevity does not make mean happiness.
- 11:48Just because you've been together for a long time does
- 11:50not mean the relationship is happy, you know?
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