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Monique Powell of Save Ferris · Caught on the Mike...

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  SPEAKER_00: Disclaimer The views and opinions expressed in this program are those of the speakers and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of any entities they represent.
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  SPEAKER_00: Listener discretion is advised.
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  SPEAKER_00: It has a fantastic story for all of you.
• 1:01
  SPEAKER_00: I had a thought of current at the night of the river summer back with offspring.
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  SPEAKER_00: We talked about the past, present, and future of Stafe Ferris, and there's a lot of stuff you're gonna learn from this episode.
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  SPEAKER_00: Ladies and gentlemen, this is Caught on the Mic.
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  SPEAKER_00: I love getting nostalgic without overly focusing on nostalgia.
• 1:29
  SPEAKER_00: Little known fact about myself.
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  SPEAKER_00: When I was in college in the mid-90s, during the height of third wave ska, I had a ska band called 40 Sunday.
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  SPEAKER_00: We did some originals, but we also did covers.
• 1:45
  SPEAKER_00: And one of the covers we did, and this is my first time hearing my next guest voice, was a song called She Has a Girlfriend Now by Real Big Fish.
• 1:56
  SPEAKER_00: And then the next thing I know, I hear an amazing cover of Come On Eileen, but that wasn't the Grand Slam.
• 2:04
  SPEAKER_00: The Grand Slam was a song called The World is New.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I am so excited to welcome my friend Monique Powell from Stave Ferris to the podcast today.
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  SPEAKER_00: Mo, how the heck are you?
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  SPEAKER_03: I'm fantastic.
• 2:22
  SPEAKER_03: How are you, Michael Clark?
• 2:24
  SPEAKER_00: I'm pretty darn good.
• 2:25
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not gonna lie.
• 2:27
  SPEAKER_00: I have been so excited to sit down and talk with you a little bit about the past, a lot about the present, and even more about the future.
• 2:38
  SPEAKER_00: We will get to the future here in a little bit.
• 2:41
  SPEAKER_00: There are so many exciting things going on for you right now.
• 2:45
  SPEAKER_00: How pumped are you?
• 2:48
  SPEAKER_03: I'm very excited for things to start moving.
• 2:52
  SPEAKER_03: I'm a little impatient, but also very excited for the machine to start.
• 2:57
  SPEAKER_00: I spent a little bit of time on your social media earlier today.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I think something that is incredible about you, Monique Powell, the person, not necessarily Monique Powell of say Ferris, is during the heat of the pandemic and going through the pandemic, you were very transparent about how you felt about what was going on in the world.
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  SPEAKER_00: And you were transparent about how it was impacting you personally.
• 3:26
  SPEAKER_00: I will tell you that a lot of my podcast, unintentionally, has been predicated about this post-pandemic world and how we can make the world a better place and pushing ourselves forward.
• 3:42
  SPEAKER_00: Um just being honest, how does it feel kind of getting things up and going again in this post-COVID world?
• 3:54
  SPEAKER_03: Um, it feels a lot like starting over.
• 3:57
  SPEAKER_03: It's been a lot like starting over, you know, like when I brought the band back in 2013, it was uh it was a start and stop process.
• 4:08
  SPEAKER_03: And then it was a hurry up and go process.
• 4:12
  SPEAKER_03: And once we were go go going, then COVID was like just you know, we were just rear-ended at that point into like a crash stop.
• 4:26
  SPEAKER_03: And yeah, you know, all of the momentum that I felt that we had were able to build for those few years was sort of dis it sort of dissipated over COVID.
• 4:44
  SPEAKER_03: And our industry um was diluted.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um so many venues closed, small, you know, small or mid-sized venues closed.
• 4:56
  SPEAKER_03: Um, there was a Vegas show that I had been working on pre-COVID and through COVID.
• 5:02
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and it was for a lounge-sized venue in Las Vegas um for a solo project.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um, all of the lounges, or most or the majority of the lounges of Vegas, including the lounge that was going to be mine, um, closed down.
• 5:19
  SPEAKER_03: And um so that is no longer in the picture.
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  SPEAKER_03: And um, you know, the size venues that um say fairers would have been touring in, so many of those closed down, and it just became a really sort of it was hard.
• 5:42
  SPEAKER_03: It was hard for all of us.
• 5:43
  SPEAKER_03: It was hard for the people who worked at the venues, it was hard for the people who around the venues, it was hard for the musicians, um, it was hard for all of us.
• 5:54
  SPEAKER_03: We had to figure out, okay, now what for a few years, you know.
• 5:59
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but it's getting better.
• 6:03
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, yes, and that's that's kind of the same story that I have.
• 6:08
  SPEAKER_00: I know going into 2020, um, I had recommitted myself to my mental fitness and my physical fitness, and I felt like I was in the best place I'd ever been in my entire life.
• 6:22
  SPEAKER_00: And I during COVID?
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  SPEAKER_00: No, no, no, right before.
• 6:26
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, right before.
• 6:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 6:29
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 6:30
  SPEAKER_04: Because I was gonna be like, during COVID, bitch.
• 6:34
  SPEAKER_04: I drank myself into a stupor, babe.
• 6:37
  SPEAKER_04: I drank myself until my intestines burned themselves out through my butthole.
• 6:43
  SPEAKER_00: No, so like I was the the the minute the world shut down, I was walking around Garden of the Gods in Colorado Springs, and I I'm getting text messages from everybody.
• 6:54
  SPEAKER_00: They're like, everything's shutting down, you gotta get home, you gotta get home.
• 6:58
  SPEAKER_00: And then the gym's closed, and I fell out of my routines.
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  SPEAKER_00: Next thing I know, I'm in a mental health spiral over the past couple of years, and it feels like 2024 has really been like a reawakening.
• 7:13
  SPEAKER_00: So taking all the bad things aside and kind of finding the silver lining, this year feels like the most normal it's felt in almost four years.
• 7:24
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I agree.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's how it is for me to do.
• 7:27
  SPEAKER_03: It's been a we reawakening.
• 7:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 7:31
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely, absolutely.
• 7:33
  SPEAKER_03: I can't say, you know, I can't say I was like the best I've ever been right before COVID, you know, like, but I was definitely doing great.
• 7:47
  SPEAKER_03: Like I was I was definitely getting there.
• 7:50
  SPEAKER_03: You know, I was like, um, I was going through some hard times.
• 7:55
  SPEAKER_03: I was, you know, coming out of a marriage, but um we c you know, it was like coming out of a 10-year marriage, like 10-year relationship marriage, but then finding myself living on my own.
• 8:10
  SPEAKER_03: And you know, it was hard because I left and nothing.
• 8:15
  SPEAKER_03: I left with nothing, basically, and then you know, but found myself and like I was finding myself and I was like, wow, you know, I was but I, you know, was sleeping on an inflatable bed for six months, like who who has this person, you know, but it was still the greatest, it was the greatest because it was mine, right?
• 8:36
  SPEAKER_03: You know, and I was making new friends and um and then I decided I was gonna live in England, and and then and then it all happened.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right, right.
• 8:51
  SPEAKER_03: Covidium Covidium happened.
• 8:56
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my goodness, you know, looking through windshields as opposed to looking through rear view mirrors, but taking a peek in that rear view mirror for a moment.
• 9:05
  SPEAKER_00: Let's talk a little bit about your origin story, because you know, as I said in the intro, like you brought a lot of joy to people in a short period of time in the late 90s, and I appreciate that.
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  SPEAKER_00: I love that it brought a lot of joy in my life.
• 9:27
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, I was a huge fan of the band.
• 9:30
  SPEAKER_00: So, how did you get your start and how did Safe Ferris come to be?
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_03: Well, those are two different stories, kinda.
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  SPEAKER_03: Which one do you do you want?
• 9:42
  SPEAKER_03: Mo or T.
• 9:43
  SPEAKER_00: Let's give an amalgamation.
• 9:45
  SPEAKER_00: Let's talk more about Mo.
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  SPEAKER_03: So, um I was kind of I started singing when I was young and but I wasn't originally and I I didn't originally think I was gonna be a ska singer.
• 10:05
  SPEAKER_03: It wasn't the original plan.
• 10:07
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um but uh when I was going to Cal State Fullerton here here in Southern California in Orange County, um you know, all my friends were in ska bands, and you know, um I went to high school with real big fish, and they were my friends, and I ran stating the bass player for some years, and I was also in a band with the bass player from a band called Suburban Rhythm, and um and it was a band called Larry, and uh and we were just playing with Real Big Fish, and we were playing like all of these other ska bands, and I was friends with all of those guys, and um and it was just sort of like a normal thing that even though Larry wasn't a ska band, it was like a normal thing that we were like playing with Sublime, and we were like playing, you know, festivals with no doubt, and we were playing with all the local ska bands that were playing all of the all-ages shows in all of the all-ages venues that were like blowing up here in Orange County for some reason.
• 11:27
  SPEAKER_03: There was just this like explosion of all ages venues out here, and it was super cool, and I was also a fan, I was also going to shows all the time in my teens, um, aside from being a singer in a sort of ska-friendly band with these amazing musicians.
• 11:55
  SPEAKER_03: But I knew that I wanted to be a lead singer in a ska band, A, because I love the music, B, because um, you know, that was the scene that I was into, you know?
• 12:09
  SPEAKER_03: And I got into an all-girl ska band where I was one of a few singers.
• 12:14
  SPEAKER_03: It was called the Shanties, which is a very traditional first wing type of ska band.
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_03: We did all traditional first wave covers, the original, and um my boy lollipop and stuff like that, and uh and that was fun, but I really wanted to do a little bit more third wave.
• 12:39
  SPEAKER_03: I like I was always like um like a more of a punk fan.
• 12:45
  SPEAKER_03: I always like punk since I was a little kid, but I was also a real I was a fan of um more like second wave as well, like the specials Ratmash.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um, because uh my sister who's 11 years older than me, I always listened to her music growing up, and K-Rock Radio was huge in our house when I was a kid.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um, and that was just what they played all the time.
• 13:18
  SPEAKER_03: Um, our house in the middle of the street and ghost town and all of that.
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  SPEAKER_03: So I just kind of it was just presence.
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  SPEAKER_03: It was just a thing.
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  SPEAKER_03: You grew up in Orange County, you listened to all of that.
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  SPEAKER_03: I was on the radio, you know, uh the adolescents, you know, played up the street, black flag was playing up the street every other week, you know, and then I grew up and you know my band Larry was playing it at the roller skating rink up the street, and someone got stabbed at the queer show next door, you know, that night.
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  SPEAKER_03: And like just everything worked together.
• 14:06
  SPEAKER_03: And for me, I just wanted I wanted to be punk adjacent.
• 14:12
  unknown: Yeah.
• 14:13
  SPEAKER_03: And and being in a punk band just wasn't something that I saw um happening for me at that time.
• 14:25
  SPEAKER_03: There just wasn't a lot of girls singing in punk uh, you know.
• 14:29
  SPEAKER_00: The weird thing about the 90s in particular is and this, especially the second half of the 90s, is music was kind of like the wild, wild west.
• 14:38
  SPEAKER_00: You could almost do about anything and everything.
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_00: It or at least from my perception, things weren't so stylistically segregated segregated as they had been the years before and the years that followed.
• 14:53
  SPEAKER_00: Like the post-internet era, it seems like music kind of went back to being compartmentalized.
• 14:59
  SPEAKER_00: So you could be punk adjacent and doing a ska band that has some new wave influences and influences here and influences there, right?
• 15:09
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it's true.
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_03: But also, you know, like who was I to think that like I was gonna be in a punk, you know, like I was a singer, I was like a trained opera singer, right?
• 15:21
  SPEAKER_03: But without it, right?
• 15:23
  SPEAKER_03: You know, so the best that I could hope for was that I would get into a cool third wave ska band and be able to make it my own, you know, somehow, some way.
• 15:37
  SPEAKER_00: Mission accomplished.
• 15:40
  SPEAKER_03: And so there was a band that was opening for my band, Larry, or the band I was in, Larry.
• 15:46
  SPEAKER_03: It wasn't my band, it was our band, Larry.
• 15:50
  SPEAKER_03: And um, this band was called Los Cantalones and Yeah, I guess they were starting a band, another band, and they had a singer and they didn't like her, and they uh decided that they wanted to take a chance, and they called me.
• 16:16
  SPEAKER_03: They were like, Will you sing in our band?
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_03: And I was like, What's your band called?
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_03: And they said, We think we gotta call it St.
• 16:22
  SPEAKER_03: Fair's.
• 16:22
  SPEAKER_03: We're like, I really like that name.
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_03: You have any songs?
• 16:26
  SPEAKER_03: So, like, yeah, we have some songs, like, I'll come out.
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_03: They came out and I heard the band and I said, Cool, um, that sounds totally cool.
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_03: I like your songs.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_03: They had like five, four or five songs.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but I was like, you know, I really like to get serious if possible.
• 16:47
  SPEAKER_03: I, you know, at this stage in my life, you know, um, I'd like to make this a full-time job for myself.
• 16:57
  SPEAKER_03: I don't, you know, I I think now's the time for me.
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_03: And I and I, and if you guys aren't into that, then I'm not really interested.
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_03: But if you are, then I, you know, I think that I have enough friends and I've made enough contacts in our part of the industry down here.
• 17:17
  SPEAKER_03: I like to manage the band and I'd like to co-write all of the new songs.
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_03: That's the only thing I asked.
• 17:25
  SPEAKER_03: And so I ended up managing the band for the next eight months.
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_03: I got us to start headlining, which pissed all the boys off, all the boy bands, all the other boy bands off.
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_03: They're like, what about seniority?
• 17:38
  SPEAKER_03: Everybody.
• 17:41
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, to this day, there's still bands that you've never heard of that are like, she's such a bitch.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_03: You know.
• 17:50
  SPEAKER_04: And it still hurts my heart, you know?
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_04: Like I'm I'm like a 50-year-old woman now, and I'm like, oh my heart, my like 19-year-old heart is like, Wang.
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_04: I wrote a song about it.
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_03: It's called Goodbye Small World.
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_03: That's one of the songs I want you to hear.
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_03: And it's kind of about saying goodbye.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_03: It's about saying goodbye to all those boys that were so mean to me back in those days, you know, that never let me like sit on their ride, you know, and ride ride on their rides with them.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_03: And um and it hurt my heart.
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_00: That brings up a really good question.
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I feel like um good singers are good singers.
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_00: It doesn't gender is irrelevant.
• 18:42
  SPEAKER_00: Good leaders are good leaders, gender is irrelevant.
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_00: Why has there been such a boys' club mentality in the music circles for so long?
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_00: Because I know you experience that.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_00: You just described it experiencing that.
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_00: What is your why why is that?
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_00: Because you even go back as far as like, you know, my daughter's just now starting to sing in bands, she's 17 years old, she's a fan, by the way.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and uh but um yeah, it's it just you go back to the like the mid-70s, you know, Fleetwood Mac, like nobody was gonna ever dominate Stevie Nicks.
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_03: And so why she had to like sleep with everybody in order for that to maybe that was a bad example, yeah.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe I should have used Wendy O'Williams and talked about the plasmatics instead.
• 19:39
  unknown: Yeah.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_00: Sorry, Mo.
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_04: And then look at what Wendy had to do in order to get Legend seriously.
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_04: Right, right.
• 19:53
  SPEAKER_04: To be like, you know what?
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_03: I don't care about what you think about me, and then put things inside of her in order to make get people to take her seriously.
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_00: From your perception, because I could never I could never explain it from my perception as a male myself, but from your perception, why has it been like that?
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_00: Why has it been such a boys' club?
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_00: Why were men so intimidated by a strong female presence in a leadership role, whether it be managing the band or managing and singing in the band?
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_03: It's uh God, I've spent like the last 20 years analyzing the 90s and what it was like to be a female in the 90s.
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_03: And and I could literally like write an entire thesis on it.
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_03: I could spend years, I could spend the next 10 years writing a thesis on it because I, you know, I probably spent a good 15 years denying that it ever happened because I so badly like did not want to admit that it was happening because I just like wanted to.
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_03: I just I just I wanted I wanted to deny that it was happening because I didn't you know it was I think it was too harsh of a reality because if I admitted that it was actually happening, I had to admit that I was powerless over it, that I had absolutely no power because I wasn't gonna be able to change who I was ever powerless over being a lady lady person, you know.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_03: And so you know, that that would be a very harsh admission.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_03: So while I was in the industry before I took those 10 years off, and those 10 years, that's a story.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_03: Why did I why did I take those 10 years off?
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_03: It's a big part of it, you know.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_03: And that was those 10 years I spent.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_03: That was a big part of why I stayed out of it for 10 years, is because I was very damaged.
• 22:12
  SPEAKER_03: It was severely damaged from the six years, the six years I spent in safe Harris with that band, that particular band, the particular management, the particular rainbow of that those particular people in that particular time, you know.
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_03: It was very damaged.
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_03: I did not know, I was not given the tools to be able to deal with what I was given.
• 22:38
  SPEAKER_03: And it's nobody's fault.
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_03: It's not my fault, it's not their fault.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_03: It's just this is a perfect storm of a lot of dysfunction, you know.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_03: But at the same time, like um, yeah, there was like a lot of mis there's a lot of bad behavior.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_03: You know?
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_01: And misogyny.
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_03: I come from a place Yeah, I mean, I come from a place of forgiveness because I, you know, I say, you know, everybody, you know, we didn't know any better.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_03: But at the same time, some of us did, some of us were grown up enough to have known better.
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_03: Some of us were grown-ups, and we we could we should have known better and we should have acted better, and we should have done better.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_03: Some of us were grown-ups, some of us were not grown-ups.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_03: I was I was still a child.
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_03: You know, um, but at the same time, you know, like um, it's like it was the time too.
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_03: In the 90s, it was a very hard time for ladies, women, girls.
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_03: I don't even know what to call it.
• 23:55
  SPEAKER_03: Females.
• 23:57
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it was a hard time for us.
• 23:59
  SPEAKER_03: It was a hard time, uh, you know.
• 24:01
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, watching, we were just talking about that documentary on like what was it, Woodstock 99?
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_03: I just so traumatizing.
• 24:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_03: Oh my god.
• 24:13
  SPEAKER_03: So traumatizing because it brought it all back.
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_03: That was the time where like certain bands were like, show us your tits, and it was totally normal to say to an entire audience, well, and girls, show us your tits.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_03: And guess what?
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_03: Girls were doing it.
• 24:30
  SPEAKER_03: Why?
• 24:31
  SPEAKER_03: Because there was because they were outnumbered, A.
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_03: B, because if they did, then they got all this positive attention from swarms of people who were like, Yay, you're cool.
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_03: Like, that's all we wanted.
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_03: We just wanted people to be like, we accept you.
• 24:49
  SPEAKER_03: Right?
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_03: And I'll never forget, like, we played, I think it was a K-Rock Weenie Roast, and I was so sick of it.
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_03: I can't remember what year it was.
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_03: And I remember going out there, and I think it was the same year that that one band that was like, show us your tits.
• 25:11
  SPEAKER_03: And I if I think it was like 182 who was guilty of doing that.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_03: And they I think they were playing, and I think they did it that night.
• 25:21
  SPEAKER_03: And I think I went out there and told the entire audience, show me your dicks.
• 25:26
  SPEAKER_03: And it was live on the radio, and I kept saying, Show me your dick, show me your dick, show me.
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_03: I I can't I I can't say K-Rock ever asked us to come back after that, but guess who they did ask?
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 25:43
  SPEAKER_00: Right, right.
• 25:45
  SPEAKER_00: It's crazy because I watch documentaries like the Woodstock 99 documentary and somebody that kind of came up through music, and I feel like there's more forward-thinking people like myself that feel like we're generational apologists to a certain extent for behaviors that you know, I I don't want to say I wasn't complicit in it because that would be lying.
• 26:15
  SPEAKER_00: Like I was a young man myself, and like my frontal cortex hadn't fully developed, not excusing it.
• 26:22
  SPEAKER_00: But it it's it's one of those things where it's cringy.
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_00: It is like cringy and disgusting to watch how males in particularly behaved the second and latter half of the 90s.
• 26:39
  SPEAKER_00: You mentioned I keep talking.
• 26:41
  SPEAKER_03: I'm sorry, I keep talking about this perfect storm.
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_03: It was like a perfect storm, it was just like everybody participated in this.
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_03: Everybody participated, though.
• 26:50
  SPEAKER_03: It wasn't just God.
• 26:51
  SPEAKER_03: It was like we all we were all complicit, right?
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_03: We were all complicit, not just dudes.
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_03: Like we all participated, though.
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_03: So don't feel too bad about it.
• 27:06
  SPEAKER_03: No.
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I still feel bad because I'm just a good dude, you know.
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, obviously, you're a you're a good dude.
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_00: Talk about the break that you took.
• 27:19
  SPEAKER_00: Um, say Ferris released the album Modified 1999.
• 27:24
  SPEAKER_00: The band came to an end in 2003, and you did take that 10-year break off, and you re-evaluated things, and you took care of Monique for a while and revived Say Ferris in 2013.
• 27:40
  SPEAKER_00: What was going through your mind during that 10-year layoff?
• 27:45
  SPEAKER_03: Um, it was uh a lot of falling apart and then needing to heal.
• 27:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 27:56
  SPEAKER_03: You know, and then and then and then climb my way back.
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it was a lot of that.
• 28:03
  SPEAKER_03: And then and then when I tried to bring the band back, um, the universe really tested me and said, How bad do you want it?
• 28:15
  SPEAKER_03: So I had to fight.
• 28:17
  SPEAKER_03: And that is how I gained character.
• 28:22
  SPEAKER_03: That was that was how I gained the character that I needed.
• 28:26
  SPEAKER_03: And I am so grateful that I was tested in the way that I was.
• 28:31
  SPEAKER_03: Wow.
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_03: Because that made me fight for this band, and it made me fight for our fans, and it like I will fight to the death for the people who love this band.
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_03: It made me finally understand how much this band means to people, like, and how much I don't even care, like how if we're the cool band, or like, you know, like it, you know, I don't even care what what people think, like that's where the saying ska now more than ever came from.
• 29:12
  SPEAKER_03: We have this guitar player, Patrick Ferguson, who's like one of the coolest people, one of the literally like fashion-wise tattoos, like music, tastes music, everything about him.
• 29:23
  SPEAKER_03: He's our guitar player, just one of the most artistically cool people I've ever known.
• 29:32
  SPEAKER_03: And he came up with it.
• 29:35
  SPEAKER_03: Because he's right, like we need Ska now more than ever.
• 29:41
  SPEAKER_03: Because it means because it means something to people, and that being tested in that way made me understand how hard I'm willing to fight for, and that nothing else really matters anymore.
• 29:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, for sure.
• 30:01
  SPEAKER_00: During that time that you were on that layoff, you appeared on albums by The Used, Hillary Duff, Goldfinger, and others.
• 30:10
  SPEAKER_00: Um, is that, you know, did you occupy a lot of time with music work even though you weren't actively singing in a project during that layoff?
• 30:21
  SPEAKER_03: I was just really lucky that there were people in the industry who believed in me.
• 30:31
  SPEAKER_03: John Feldman is one of those people.
• 30:35
  SPEAKER_03: Charlie Baldson, yeah, guitar player for Goldfinger, who's one of my besties, John Feldman, who, you know, just really they just believed in me, and they're just sort of these like um guys who carried me through.
• 30:57
  SPEAKER_03: You know, I I didn't really believe in myself so much, and they continue to believe in me, and they um carried me in a way, and there were others, there were other producers who continued to hire me and kept me going musically and professionally, and yeah.
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_00: Love it.
• 31:21
  SPEAKER_00: So you revived say Ferris in 2013, you weathered some storms that came with that, released an EP in 2017.
• 31:32
  SPEAKER_00: What does that stage of say Ferris, this revival stage, mean to you at this point in your life?
• 31:44
  SPEAKER_03: So the 2017 EP stage.
• 31:48
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, wow, that um that truly meant everything.
• 31:53
  SPEAKER_03: Like we had we have an album Ton play on words.
• 31:58
  SPEAKER_03: We have an album called It Means Everything.
• 32:01
  SPEAKER_03: No, no, no, no.
• 32:02
  SPEAKER_03: 2017 meant everything to me.
• 32:04
  SPEAKER_03: Truly.
• 32:05
  SPEAKER_03: Um and that album meant everything to me because I spent two years fighting a lawsuit to be able to bring this band back to the people who wanted it.
• 32:19
  SPEAKER_03: Um there were people who truly didn't want this band to happen anymore.
• 32:26
  SPEAKER_03: There were people who truly um, you know, like weren't necessarily concerned about the heart and soul of of this band, you know, they were more concerned about um like ego-based or like I don't know, fame stuff or money stuff, you know, instead of like the fan kind of stuff.
• 33:00
  SPEAKER_03: Um the whole time I was just like thinking of their little faces and because you know when I when I play a show, like I I try and make eye contact with every single person in the audience because like I've heard people talk about, and this is true, this happens sometimes.
• 33:19
  SPEAKER_03: Side note, sorry, side note, but let's put that thought aside and go here for a second.
• 33:25
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 33:27
  SPEAKER_03: We're just gonna say it.
• 33:29
  SPEAKER_03: So sometimes when you play songs for like 25 years and they're songs like spam or under 21, okay, um you're thinking of other things when you're talking about song.
• 33:43
  SPEAKER_03: You're not really thinking of song, you're thinking of like your grocery list.
• 33:46
  SPEAKER_03: I'm I'm just gonna be honest here.
• 33:48
  SPEAKER_03: Let's just get real honest.
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_03: I don't want to be full of shit, okay?
• 33:53
  SPEAKER_04: Your grocery list, you're thinking about like we gotta do this after I get up.
• 33:59
  SPEAKER_03: I forgot to, you know, I forgot to take the laundry out of the wash before I left the house, whatever.
• 34:07
  SPEAKER_03: But for me, instead of that, what I do, and I've always done this, is I try to make eye contact with every single person in the audience.
• 34:15
  SPEAKER_03: It's a little OCD thing I have.
• 34:18
  SPEAKER_03: I think if I can make eye contact with every single person in the audience, then I've done my job tonight.
• 34:24
  SPEAKER_03: You know, I could just, you know, and that was that was let's go back now.
• 34:31
  SPEAKER_03: And that that was what I thought about through the last through two years of lawsuit, you know, is their little faces and their little oh that's all I could think about.
• 34:41
  SPEAKER_03: And so I finally got to the other side of that, you know, and it was mine.
• 34:46
  SPEAKER_03: This was mine, and I had all their little hearts inside of me.
• 34:50
  SPEAKER_03: I was like, all right, I'm gonna do them right.
• 34:55
  SPEAKER_03: I just wanted to, you know, I and mind you, I had also dealt with 10 years of blockage of like um just this overwhelming fear of writing songs again because um I was just terrified.
• 35:14
  SPEAKER_03: I was terrified.
• 35:16
  SPEAKER_03: Um so I really and Joe Barry, who was playing in the um 2013 Say Ferris with me, um, he and I would sit together every day and he would help me um write songs and just kind of get to the other side of this sort of irrational fear that I had.
• 35:43
  SPEAKER_03: I was so sad and there was so much sadness, and there was so much like almost like abuse, you know, that I had to get to the other side of and shake off.
• 35:54
  SPEAKER_03: So it's interesting is that uh yeah, that's what this album was.
• 36:01
  SPEAKER_03: This album was like, okay, you know, there were all these different aspects of St.
• 36:05
  SPEAKER_03: Ferris sound-wise, and I wanted to hit on the different bassets or the different sounds of St.
• 36:13
  SPEAKER_03: Ferris.
• 36:14
  SPEAKER_03: So I wrote five songs with health, um that sort of cover the different sounds of St.
• 36:24
  SPEAKER_03: Ferris, and then my dad got to sing on one of them, and um, and that was really fantastic.
• 36:34
  SPEAKER_00: That's amazing, that's amazing.
• 36:37
  SPEAKER_03: And speaking of she has a girlfriend now, John Avila, who produced She Has a Girlfriend Now, also produced that EP.
• 36:47
  SPEAKER_00: There we go, full circle moment.
• 36:50
  SPEAKER_03: John Avila produced She Has a Girlfriend Now when I was probably about 18 or 19 years old, and full circle came back.
• 37:00
  SPEAKER_00: Love it in 2017, healed my heart, and produced that love that music.
• 37:10
  SPEAKER_00: I think really from my observation, music in kind of the post-2010 world, if you know I was just to put it, throw a date on it.
• 37:20
  SPEAKER_00: It seems like it's more about creating community than or as equal to creating community, equal parts, creating community, and creating art.
• 37:33
  SPEAKER_00: I know when I speak to younger, newer bands, that's what they're focused on.
• 37:38
  SPEAKER_00: They're focused less on the idea of getting the big record deal or chasing the fame, as much as they are creating that parasocial relationship, kind of like what you were talking about, is locking in that eye contact, making a difference in somebody's life by just kind of interacting with them in that way.
• 37:59
  SPEAKER_00: And that that warms my heart to see that, specifically as a dad that's watching his kid do it right now.
• 38:07
  SPEAKER_00: Um so and and having done it myself, you know, so I think this is a good kind of segue to talk about where things are at right now in this moment, because a lot of big, amazing shows coming up.
• 38:25
  SPEAKER_00: Let's touch on that first.
• 38:27
  SPEAKER_00: You are the direct and only support of the offspring for their 30th anniversary of Smash.
• 38:34
  SPEAKER_00: You're doing that at the Honda Center on June 1st.
• 38:38
  SPEAKER_00: You're playing with Goldfinger at the Will Turn on July 19th.
• 38:43
  SPEAKER_00: You're doing a show with Madness, speaking of second wave ska in Oakland on May 24th.
• 38:51
  SPEAKER_03: Two shows.
• 38:52
  SPEAKER_03: Two sold-out shows.
• 38:53
  SPEAKER_03: Oh my goodness.
• 38:54
  SPEAKER_03: And we're their direct support.
• 38:57
  SPEAKER_03: We're at their direct support and we're goldfingers direct support.
• 39:01
  SPEAKER_00: I know! That's dope.
• 39:03
  SPEAKER_00: That is so dope.
• 39:04
  SPEAKER_00: And I gotta tell you, this one is the one that excites me the most because I'm a lame ass Midwesterner.
• 39:10
  SPEAKER_00: But you are coming to Omaha, Nebraska on Tuesday, July 23rd at the Astro Amplitheater for 897 The Rivers Summer Batch.
• 39:21
  SPEAKER_00: The Offspring, The Urge, Straight Jacket, and of course, Save Ferris.
• 39:28
  SPEAKER_00: I am so pumped to come see you live.
• 39:32
  SPEAKER_00: How excited are you for all of these shows?
• 39:36
  SPEAKER_04: When you just said it, like I almost started to cry.
• 39:40
  SPEAKER_04: Honestly.
• 39:49
  SPEAKER_03: It's amazing.
• 39:50
  SPEAKER_03: I just almost started to cry with gratitude.
• 39:52
  SPEAKER_03: I felt very happy.
• 39:54
  SPEAKER_03: Very good.
• 39:55
  SPEAKER_00: I'm glad you deserve that happiness.
• 39:58
  SPEAKER_00: Very happy.
• 39:58
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I hope you understand the level of happiness that you have brought to other people in return.
• 40:06
  SPEAKER_04: I hope I can do more of it.
• 40:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, and you are fun.
• 40:11
  SPEAKER_04: I hope so.
• 40:13
  SPEAKER_02: I really hope so.
• 40:15
  SPEAKER_00: There is one show that you did recently in Florida that I like, I wish I would have been able to go.
• 40:23
  SPEAKER_00: The Brightside Music Fest that you did on April 27th, that was like all of my favorite bands on one show.
• 40:31
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, damn it, how was that?
• 40:35
  SPEAKER_02: Showing crazy.
• 40:38
  SPEAKER_02: I was like, what that's happening right now.
• 40:42
  SPEAKER_02: I was like, what is happening?
• 40:45
  SPEAKER_03: I was just walking around like, hey, hi, are you telling me like it was like no time had passed whatsoever.
• 40:55
  SPEAKER_03: We were like we were back in 1999, 8, 9, 99.
• 41:04
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 41:04
  SPEAKER_00: For those that don't know, it was Say Ferris, Goldfinger, 311, Story of the Year, and Sublime.
• 41:13
  SPEAKER_00: Who else was on that bill?
• 41:14
  SPEAKER_04: Uh uh um face-to-face, uh uh God, I just for that.
• 41:24
  SPEAKER_04: Um uh zebrahead.
• 41:27
  SPEAKER_00: But can you imagine like that lineup in 2024?
• 41:33
  SPEAKER_00: Unwritten law, yes.
• 41:35
  SPEAKER_00: So I've had Adam from Story of the Year on my show, and I tell you what, I absolutely love those guys.
• 41:40
  SPEAKER_00: Probably one of my favorite live shows.
• 41:42
  SPEAKER_03: They're great, they are so great.
• 41:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, great.
• 41:47
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh.
• 41:48
  SPEAKER_00: But I mean, just look at all of these lineups again, not to over exaggerate, but all of these lineups are fantastic, and people are getting excited about it again.
• 41:59
  SPEAKER_00: So unbelievable.
• 42:02
  SPEAKER_00: The that statement on the t-shirt created by your guitarist.
• 42:06
  SPEAKER_00: What was it again?
• 42:08
  SPEAKER_03: God now more than ever.
• 42:10
  SPEAKER_00: Right?
• 42:11
  SPEAKER_00: Right?
• 42:12
  SPEAKER_03: That's like on everything.
• 42:14
  SPEAKER_03: We it's like hashtag Scotnow More Than Ever.
• 42:16
  SPEAKER_03: That's our saying we that he came up with on Warp Tour in 2017.
• 42:21
  SPEAKER_03: He was like, Monique, it's gone now more than ever.
• 42:25
  SPEAKER_03: We were just like, oh my god, that's amazing.
• 42:28
  SPEAKER_03: Happy Ferguson.
• 42:30
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, he's you know, genius.
• 42:32
  SPEAKER_03: He's the coolest person I've ever met in my life.
• 42:35
  SPEAKER_03: And like, he was like, you know, heck yeah.
• 42:42
  SPEAKER_03: He's he's right though.
• 42:43
  SPEAKER_03: Like, we need it now more than ever.
• 42:46
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
• 42:47
  SPEAKER_00: We really do.
• 42:47
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
• 42:48
  SPEAKER_00: Well, for my friends here in Omaha, Nebraska that are listening to this locally, what can we expect at 897 the River Summer Bash from Safe Ferris?
• 43:02
  SPEAKER_03: Um, okay, I'm just gonna be honest.
• 43:04
  SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna level with you.
• 43:08
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 43:09
  SPEAKER_03: Listen, if you're gonna bring your kids to the show, I strongly suggest having a conversation with them before you bring them to the Safe Ferris portion of the show.
• 43:25
  SPEAKER_03: There will be some profanity.
• 43:29
  SPEAKER_02: There there may there may there may be some inappropriate behavior with the microphone.
• 43:38
  SPEAKER_00: There may not be.
• 43:40
  SPEAKER_00: There will be.
• 43:41
  SPEAKER_02: There may be.
• 43:42
  SPEAKER_02: There may it's possible.
• 43:44
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 43:46
  SPEAKER_02: I apologize ahead of time.
• 43:50
  SPEAKER_02: If it if there's some partial nudity and an occasional nipple flips out.
• 43:57
  SPEAKER_02: I'm sorry.
• 43:58
  SPEAKER_02: I apologize.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_02: Not my fault, it happened.
• 44:02
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my goodness.
• 44:04
  SPEAKER_02: I'm just okay.
• 44:05
  SPEAKER_02: That's all I'm putting out there.
• 44:07
  SPEAKER_02: But listen, it's all done with a sense of humor.
• 44:11
  SPEAKER_02: And it comes from a place of love.
• 44:15
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 44:16
  SPEAKER_02: That's all.
• 44:17
  SPEAKER_02: That's all.
• 44:19
  SPEAKER_03: And listen, no matter what happens, it's all done out of the spirit of, you know, good time, friendship.
• 44:30
  SPEAKER_03: You know what I'm saying?
• 44:31
  SPEAKER_03: There's no ill will ever.
• 44:36
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my goodness.
• 44:38
  SPEAKER_00: So before we started recording, you got the surprise that I have heard five new safe Ferris tracks.
• 44:51
  SPEAKER_04: This is my cat blue.
• 44:53
  SPEAKER_04: She just wanted to say.
• 44:58
  SPEAKER_00: Hello, Monique's cat blue.
• 45:00
  SPEAKER_02: He's an old blue.
• 45:01
  SPEAKER_02: He's a flower.
• 45:03
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, go on.
• 45:06
  SPEAKER_00: Before we started recording, you'd found out that I had listened to five brand new Safe Ferris tracks.
• 45:12
  SPEAKER_00: Now, this is done quite confidentially, but I gotta tell you, I'm excited for these songs.
• 45:20
  SPEAKER_00: I tell you, when I thought about Save Ferris, I always thought about my favorite song, The World is New.
• 45:27
  SPEAKER_00: That might have changed in the last 24 hours because I am super excited for the boundaries that you are pushing with this new music.
• 45:39
  SPEAKER_00: What can you tell us about what you are working on and what the world is about to hear?
• 45:46
  SPEAKER_03: Well, Michael, I think a lot of my good fortune has come from the fact that my life has brought so many Michaels into my life within the last couple of years.
• 45:59
  SPEAKER_03: Michael.
• 46:00
  SPEAKER_03: Michael Bradford, who is my co-writer and producer of these tracks.
• 46:06
  SPEAKER_03: Michael Parrish, who is our day-to-day management.
• 46:10
  SPEAKER_03: There are so many Michaels.
• 46:12
  SPEAKER_03: I can't even, there are a lot of Michaels involved in this process.
• 46:17
  SPEAKER_03: That being said, Michael Bradford and I have really connected on a really important level.
• 46:26
  SPEAKER_03: And that is not only are we friends, but remember I told you about that like whole sort of anxiety and that fear that I had around writing.
• 46:38
  SPEAKER_03: Michael and I spent a lot of time just sort of talking through it in the beginning.
• 46:43
  SPEAKER_03: And he really like we just sat down and we just talked about all that stuff.
• 46:49
  SPEAKER_03: And um yeah, totally, fully just I don't know what it is.
• 46:58
  SPEAKER_03: He is like such a beautiful open heart, and uh and we write so well together, beautifully together, and he's incredibly talented, and he makes me feel like I can you know create freely and um and what I have to say matters and my um I matter and um and what I what I create um is good um even the bad stuff is good.
• 47:43
  SPEAKER_00: Well I didn't hear a bad track in the mix and I don't need to shine ass, and I'm not a liar, so I'm gonna tell you I loved it all.
• 47:54
  SPEAKER_02: Like even the bad stuff is good, sometimes it's just not stuff we have to play for other people.
• 48:04
  SPEAKER_04: Not to make it bad, it's just you know, we don't need to play for anyone else.
• 48:09
  SPEAKER_00: I love the tracks because you do have you could still see the genetics of Safe Varus in it, but you can tell that there's a lot of growth in you as a person.
• 48:22
  SPEAKER_00: And I do feel that Monique Powell is bleeding through more than it just being a safe varis track, it's got that safe varis feel.
• 48:33
  SPEAKER_00: You know that's the voice, you can visualize the songs being played live.
• 48:39
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I really liked the the very pulsating London calling vibe to to where are you now?
• 48:47
  SPEAKER_00: I loved that.
• 48:48
  SPEAKER_00: And I I love how expressive you are in these songs, even the ones you didn't want me to hear.
• 48:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 48:59
  SPEAKER_00: Oh Michael Parrish.
• 49:02
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, Michael Parrish.
• 49:05
  SPEAKER_00: I bet he didn't think he was gonna get a name drop on this podcast, but he's got one.
• 49:09
  SPEAKER_00: Twice.
• 49:10
  SPEAKER_04: Twice.
• 49:14
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my goodness.
• 49:16
  SPEAKER_00: So where where do you see things going with this new music and where do you want to go with it?
• 49:21
  SPEAKER_03: So it helps that my boyfriend is a filmmaker, and so we have access to, you know, like lighting and film stuff.
• 49:33
  SPEAKER_03: And we had this crazy ass idea that like, why don't we release a song and a video every six weeks?
• 49:44
  SPEAKER_03: I'm not sure that was a good idea, but I think we're gonna try it out.
• 49:50
  SPEAKER_00: Have you started filming any of it yet?
• 49:53
  SPEAKER_03: Um yes, so we have a video for lights out.
• 49:56
  SPEAKER_03: We did a video, we already did a video for um the holiday song, which we already put out in December.
• 50:03
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 50:03
  SPEAKER_03: Um, our videos are silly, but you know, we just figure we just want something to go along with the music.
• 50:11
  SPEAKER_03: We don't like we're not looking to win any awards here, you know.
• 50:16
  SPEAKER_00: But that's the world we live in now.
• 50:18
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, right?
• 50:19
  SPEAKER_00: Like you gotta connect the audio and the video and and and it's how people become engaged for sure.
• 50:25
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we're just looking to have fun with it, you know.
• 50:27
  SPEAKER_03: We're not again, we just yeah, we're just looking to have fun.
• 50:31
  SPEAKER_03: Um, so we but it it's a lot of work, a lot more work, a lot more work than I uh originally thought about when I first had that brilliant idea, Moni.
• 50:46
  SPEAKER_03: Video every six weeks.
• 50:50
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my goodness.
• 50:52
  SPEAKER_03: That's so we're gonna give it our best shot.
• 50:56
  SPEAKER_03: So uh that's what we're looking to do is uh video and a song every six weeks.
• 51:00
  SPEAKER_03: The songs are recorded, um and videos are coming long and we'll sing, we'll that's great.
• 51:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's great.
• 51:13
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I don't want to tie up too much more of your time, but my million-dollar question, because I know you're gonna have a good answer for this, and I ask this of every single one of my podcast guests, and I really think you're gonna have a great answer.
• 51:27
  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna repeat myself.
• 51:29
  SPEAKER_00: I love that so much.
• 51:30
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but what's your advice for making the world a better place tomorrow than what it is today, considering everything that you've gone through, your story?
• 51:42
  SPEAKER_03: I think it has a lot to do with okay, this is just how I feel today.
• 51:45
  SPEAKER_03: This could this changes um from day to day.
• 51:49
  SPEAKER_03: But as of today, I think it has a lot to do with um radical acceptance.
• 52:03
  SPEAKER_03: That's definitely um radical acceptance of self and others.
• 52:12
  SPEAKER_03: It's definitely something that I've been trying to practice for a few years now.
• 52:19
  SPEAKER_03: Unconditional compassion.
• 52:22
  SPEAKER_00: Love it.
• 52:23
  SPEAKER_03: Unconditional compassion.
• 52:25
  SPEAKER_03: Um even when I don't feel like it, practice being compassionate.
• 52:30
  SPEAKER_03: When I don't want to be.
• 52:35
  SPEAKER_03: And then the uh obliteration of the ego.
• 52:41
  SPEAKER_03: So smashing the ego.
• 52:44
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 52:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 52:47
  SPEAKER_03: So those are the kind of the three things I've been kind of working on for the past few years.
• 52:52
  SPEAKER_00: We all just gotta try and do a little better every day.
• 52:56
  SPEAKER_00: We can't fix things overnight.
• 52:59
  SPEAKER_03: Doing the best we can.
• 53:01
  SPEAKER_03: That's a good one.
• 53:02
  SPEAKER_03: Do the best we can today.
• 53:04
  SPEAKER_03: I like that one.
• 53:06
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 53:08
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh, this has been a blast, Mo.
• 53:12
  SPEAKER_00: This has been so fun.
• 53:14
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like I have a new best friend.
• 53:17
  SPEAKER_00: What's that?
• 53:18
  SPEAKER_04: I feel the same way about you, and I I could use another Michael in my life.
• 53:23
  SPEAKER_00: Well, you've got one.
• 53:26
  SPEAKER_04: I'm just collecting Michaels.
• 53:28
  SPEAKER_03: I need another one.
• 53:30
  SPEAKER_03: I want another one.
• 53:31
  SPEAKER_03: I think that's my thing.
• 53:32
  SPEAKER_03: You know, like, you know, some years it's like, wow, I have an inordinate amount of Sagittarians in my life.
• 53:40
  SPEAKER_03: 25 Sagittarians came into my life.
• 53:42
  SPEAKER_03: I have a very lucky year because of that.
• 53:45
  SPEAKER_03: This year, it's Michaels.
• 53:47
  SPEAKER_03: I have a lot of Michaels.
• 53:49
  SPEAKER_03: Very lucky year for me.
• 53:51
  SPEAKER_03: Lots of Michaels.
• 53:52
  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna tell you, you mentioned Sagittarians.
• 53:55
  SPEAKER_00: I was born on the borderline day of Sagittarius and Capricorn.
• 54:00
  SPEAKER_00: So you kind of got a double win right here.
• 54:03
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 54:04
  SPEAKER_00: Like December 22nd.
• 54:05
  SPEAKER_00: So you got a Michael and a semi-sagittarius, semi-capricorn.
• 54:10
  SPEAKER_00: So you just won the lottery, my friend.
• 54:12
  SPEAKER_03: And my sister and my board friend, my two favorite people in the world, Sagittarius!
• 54:22
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh.
• 54:25
  SPEAKER_00: I hope when you guys come to town on July 23rd, I hope we can give each other a high five and a hug.
• 54:31
  SPEAKER_00: I want to run into you into the real world because I tell you what, the world is a much better place with you in it for sure.
• 54:41
  SPEAKER_04: You look like such a good hug or two.
• 54:43
  SPEAKER_04: I can't wait.
• 54:46
  SPEAKER_00: Ladies and gentlemen, July 23rd, Astro Amplitheater, 89.7 the River, Summer Bash with Offspring, The Urge, Straight Jacket, and Stay Ferris.
• 54:57
  SPEAKER_00: It's gonna be a great time.
• 54:58
  SPEAKER_00: Make sure you are all there.
• 55:01
  SPEAKER_00: Monique, the world is a much better place with you in it and Blue.
• 55:06
  SPEAKER_00: Thanks for doing the podcast today.
• 55:09
  SPEAKER_00: I want to thank my friend Monique Powell of Stafe Ferris for doing the podcast today.
• 55:14
  SPEAKER_00: Extra special thanks to Michael Frish, Regime Music Group, Sophia John, and 897 the River for helping facilitate this interview.
• 55:24
  SPEAKER_00: It meant everything.
• 55:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, there was the fun.
• 55:27
  SPEAKER_00: Stay Ferris album it means everything.
• 55:29
  SPEAKER_00: You get the point.
• 55:30
  SPEAKER_00: Anyways, you can check out State Ferris Straight Jacket Deepurge and the Offspring on Tuesday, July 23rd, 2024, at Astral Amphotheater in Omaha, Nebraska.
• 55:41
  SPEAKER_00: Make sure you visit me at www.cockonthemic.com.
• 55:45
  SPEAKER_00: Give me a subscribe on all of your podcasting platforms on YouTube.
• 55:50
  SPEAKER_00: Give me a follow on social media.
• 55:52
  SPEAKER_00: It means everything to me.
• 55:55
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, I did it again.
• 55:56
  SPEAKER_00: For guest appearances, make sure you shoot and email cock on the mic at gmail.com.
• 56:02
  SPEAKER_00: Summer 2024 coming in hot.
• 56:05
  SPEAKER_00: This has been Caught on the Mic with Michael Clark.
• 56:08
  SPEAKER_00: I'm Michael Clark.
• 56:09
  SPEAKER_00: Until next time, thank you.