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The Burnout Epidemic & Entering Your Balance Era · Two Broke Chicks

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  Speaker 1: This podcast is recorded on Gadigle Land always was, always
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  Speaker 1: lessons and tips to help make you rich in life.
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  Speaker 2: And you might be noticing something a little bit different.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're watching on Spotify, you'll notice that we've
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  Speaker 3: got some new digs.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah blow up.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we've got a new studio that I'm literally obsessed with.
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  Speaker 2: Is that going to be your obsession of the week?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it should be, hey, but no, I'm locked in
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  Speaker 1: for a different one, spicy. But before we get into
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  Speaker 1: our obsessions, we are chatting the burnout epidemic and how
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  Speaker 1: to enter your unbothered era because not gonna lie sits fucked.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, be graz See.
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  Speaker 3: This time of year is always hectic, and I think
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  Speaker 3: it's always prone to burnout. But also with everything that's
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  Speaker 3: been happening in the news in the last twelve slash
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  Speaker 3: since we were born.
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  Speaker 2: It all started in nineteen ninety Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Literally, Yeah, just a lot is going on and I
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  Speaker 3: think a lot of chicks will benefit from this episode.
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  Speaker 1: It's not just in your head validation. Yeah, we are
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  Speaker 1: the validation station rebrand. Yeah, I know, love it.
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  Speaker 2: New body name everyone.
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  Speaker 1: We need to like start using that when we're like
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  Speaker 1: going shopping and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Validation station, validation station. We just you deserve it. Next up,
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  Speaker 2: validation station.
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  Speaker 1: If Princess wants it, Princess gets it. Me who's like
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  Speaker 1: literally never denied myself anything?
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  Speaker 3: I know, I think that all the time, Like I
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  Speaker 3: deserve this. Yeah, literally, like one have you ever said
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  Speaker 3: no to yourself?
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  Speaker 2: Dumb as? It's fine, We're very mature, adult human being.
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  Speaker 2: We're just joking.
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  Speaker 1: So today we're actually going to break down the burnout
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  Speaker 1: epidemic into the three parts that we see as probably
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  Speaker 1: the biggest stresses in our audience, in our lives, and
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  Speaker 1: how to kind of combat those to enter a more
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  Speaker 1: balanced way of thinking era life everything Okay, the unbothered era.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to be talking the news cycle burnout, the
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  Speaker 1: nice girl exhaustion burnout, and the hustle aka success burnout.
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  Speaker 2: I'm very excited me too. Some of this research did
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  Speaker 2: feel a little bit personal. I would say maybe all
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  Speaker 2: of it. I was so lowie voice. I'm just reading
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  Speaker 2: an article. I'm like, why are you yelling?
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  Speaker 3: Literally, my obsession of the week is something that I
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  Speaker 3: saw on the Birdie Instagram and it's a post that
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  Speaker 3: they went live with this week, and it was called
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  Speaker 3: the girls are also tucking their Janes.
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  Speaker 2: Here we go, She's off everyone. Yeah, I don't think I've.
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  Speaker 1: Seen you smile this much ever. About like a fashion yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so hold on for context.
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  Speaker 2: Everyone.
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  Speaker 1: Whenever Sally's asked about her like icon't her fashion inspiration,
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  Speaker 1: her hair inspiration, anything to do with her aesthetic. Her
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  Speaker 1: response from birth of exiting the womb till now at
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  Speaker 1: sixty eight years of age was the Olsen Twins.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's true.
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  Speaker 3: So anytime I see them referenced in the zeitgeist, it
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  Speaker 3: just makes me so happy because obviously they're the faces behind.
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  Speaker 2: The row, but we don't really see them that much.
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  Speaker 3: We don't really see them ever, like out and about,
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  Speaker 3: so when I do see them reference to an article
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  Speaker 3: about them, I'm automatically excited. But I thought this was
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  Speaker 3: really interesting because the Olsen tuck essentially refers to tucking
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  Speaker 3: your pants or jeans into boots. Oh yeah, and that's
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  Speaker 3: a trend that apparently is going to be rolling out
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  Speaker 3: in fall and winter in the States, which I actually
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  Speaker 3: am really into because I feel like we should embrace
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  Speaker 3: more trends that are about styling rather than purchasing. I
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  Speaker 3: agree because when I was looking at some of the references,
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  Speaker 3: because we've seen obviously the Olsen twins were doing it,
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  Speaker 3: and then Zendaya has been seen doing it as well.
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  Speaker 1: Em Redakowski also had like a viral Pinterest pick of tucking.
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  Speaker 2: Her jeans into cowboy boots.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, and then of course some of the other like
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  Speaker 3: fashion it girlies just across the internet.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Also shout out to Princess Diana in the nineties. She
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  Speaker 3: had like those iconic fits with the jeans and the
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  Speaker 3: boots as well, So gotta pay respect to the og
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  Speaker 3: but my wife's name.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: But when I was looking at some of those images,
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  Speaker 3: I was like, Oh, I've got so many boots and
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  Speaker 3: jeans and pants that I could recreate this look if
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  Speaker 3: I want to.
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  Speaker 2: And I think maybe that's the next frontier.
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  Speaker 3: That's what we should be embracing because we love mixing
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  Speaker 3: things up, we love something that's.
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  Speaker 2: New and sparkly.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're all just girls, but I'm really excited to
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  Speaker 3: perhaps look into more ways that we can do that.
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  Speaker 2: But with restyling rather, I think that's the same work.
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  Speaker 1: That's good homework to look into some trends that like
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  Speaker 1: align with you or just styling ways that don't mean
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  Speaker 1: that you're spending more money. Yeah, like that mean you're
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  Speaker 1: falling back in love with your wardrobe and it doesn't
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  Speaker 1: actually encourage you to spend any money exactly. Have this
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  Speaker 1: idea for a series that I want to do, and
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  Speaker 1: it's called Nothing to Wear, and it's it's now that
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  Speaker 1: I've said it, I have to do it accountability. I
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  Speaker 1: know it's called nothing to Wear and it's basically pulling
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  Speaker 1: in styling trends or product trends that you very likely
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  Speaker 1: already own, and so like one of them that I
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  Speaker 1: want to do. Spoiler alert, everyone still has to like it.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, Yeah, surprise when I post it is
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  Speaker 1: that like thongs are up two hundred and thirty three percent.
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  Speaker 1: That's flip flops for the Americans, and you very likely
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  Speaker 1: already own that. But it kind of helps you fall
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  Speaker 1: back in love with your wardrobe and be like, Okay, cool,
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  Speaker 1: I don't have to buy a new thing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, dig bottom of it, covered bucks, I'll.
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  Speaker 4: Write now, I want to preface this, but we're going
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  Speaker 4: to be breaking down the three different parts of the
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  Speaker 4: burnout epidemic.
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  Speaker 1: However, we are always going to end these segments with
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  Speaker 1: a positive, with a way that you can get out
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  Speaker 1: of it, with a way that you can put strategies
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  Speaker 1: in place to help heal the burnout you're currently feeling,
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  Speaker 1: or to help avoid it and bring balance back into
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  Speaker 1: your life.
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  Speaker 3: Basically, we're going to end each segment with a little
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  Speaker 3: glimmer of hope.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly, a very big glimmer of hope.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, big ball of hope.
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  Speaker 1: Big balls of hope, big balls all right.
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  Speaker 2: Number one, and probably the most.
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  Speaker 1: Prevalent in what I'm feeling at the moment is new
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  Speaker 1: cycle burnout. Yeah, so new cycle burnout is this stressor
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  Speaker 1: of constant exposure to news and especially crisis, conflict, disaster, politics,
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  Speaker 1: climate pandemics, social umbrest.
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  Speaker 2: The list goes on. I feel sick, I know, right.
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  Speaker 4: And the reason why everyone is feeling this really severe
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  Speaker 4: news cycle burnout is because one there's a lot going on,
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  Speaker 4: but two, social media algorithms push urgency, outrage, and fear
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  Speaker 4: like those are prioritized, and this kind of burnout is
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  Speaker 4: about being emotionally saturated.
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  Speaker 1: Every scroll triggers tension, guilt, shock, and overall. I think
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  Speaker 1: especially what I've felt is helplessness over time. I think
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  Speaker 1: what's happening is it's becoming quite numbing, quite negative, and
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  Speaker 1: anxiety inducing and also causing like this withdrawal, this want
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  Speaker 1: to be like, I don't want to you almost want
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  Speaker 1: to bury your head in the same because that feels
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  Speaker 1: like the easier solution. Yeah, And many mental health writers
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  Speaker 1: note that when your brain is overloaded with negative stimulus,
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  Speaker 1: the default is to shut off defensively and to create
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  Speaker 1: and carry this low hum of stress all the time.
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  Speaker 2: So the reason why I want to share that as
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  Speaker 2: well is to be like, it's not you, it's them.
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  Speaker 2: We're breaking up.
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  Speaker 1: It's prevalent all over, but as well, I pulled in
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  Speaker 1: some Australian statistics. According to a Digital News report Australia
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, social media overtook online news as a
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  Speaker 1: primary source of news, so twenty six percent get their
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  Speaker 1: news via social media and twenty three percent via news websites.
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  Speaker 2: Unsurprising, what's happened as well?
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  Speaker 1: You look at social media feeds and things show up
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  Speaker 1: in your feed, like look TikTok is for you page.
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  Speaker 2: You don't follow these pages, but it still shows up
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  Speaker 2: for you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and as well with Instagram like posts and reels
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  Speaker 1: show up from recommended things, So it doesn't even matter
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  Speaker 1: if you try to curate through a feed of following
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  Speaker 1: people that aligne or you unfollow.
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  Speaker 2: Because you need a break from the new cycle. The
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  Speaker 2: new cycles.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, literally special range of skills and social range of
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  Speaker 1: skills skills for.
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  Speaker 2: Many people like you.
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  Speaker 1: The same report found news avoidance is also extremely high,
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  Speaker 1: with sixty nine percent of Australians avoiding news at least
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  Speaker 1: some of the time. And also misinformation is a big concern,
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  Speaker 1: with nearly three and four Australians worried about false or
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  Speaker 1: misleading content online.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, which I do also think is very fair. And
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  Speaker 3: I think another reason why we're feeling like burnout from
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  Speaker 3: the new cycle is because not only are we we
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  Speaker 3: receiving the news and analysis of things that are happening
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  Speaker 3: in the news from magazines and newspapers and traditional media
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  Speaker 3: sources even online, we're also receiving them from content creators
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  Speaker 3: who are also covering the headlines.
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  Speaker 2: So we're just like saturated constantly.
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  Speaker 3: And I think that this is can be a good
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  Speaker 3: thing because sometimes it means that we will get exposure
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  Speaker 3: to things that maybe the traditional media wouldn't and you
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  Speaker 3: get a perspective that the traditional media wouldn't give you.
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  Speaker 3: But also it does open you up to that burnout,
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  Speaker 3: but also potential misinformation in some cases as well.
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  Speaker 1: So I also want to keep the first statistic in mind.
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  Speaker 1: And there was a very interesting post from pretty Little
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  Speaker 1: Marketer that basically said everyone's scrolling and no one is
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  Speaker 1: engaging in social media. They just scroll through new cycle burnout.
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  Speaker 1: Facebook interactions are down eighty percent. Yeah, TikTok brand engagement
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  Speaker 1: halved from five point ninety six percent to two point
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  Speaker 1: sixty three percent. Instagram is fighting for attention with zero
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  Speaker 1: point four to three percent average engagement rate. And she
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  Speaker 1: also states that we're entering the age of the lurker,
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  Speaker 1: So the audience is there, but we're just over consuming
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  Speaker 1: news and content and trends and we're getting burnt out.
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  Speaker 3: I think a lot of people and I would love
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  Speaker 3: to see a stat around this, around the users and
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  Speaker 3: how people use the platform. But I would probably guess
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  Speaker 3: that the majority of people who have a TikTok don't
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  Speaker 3: create or post anything, They just consume it.
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  Speaker 1: You said, do you want to stay mom my goddess,
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  Speaker 1: feed me, feed me, bring your plate, your life and
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  Speaker 1: fork and eat your supper. So sixty seven percent of
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  Speaker 1: TikTok users never post. Yeah, ninety two percent of TikTok
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  Speaker 1: interactions are passive views ninety two ninety two.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And Instagram story completion rates are over comment rates, right,
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  Speaker 1: So it leads us to this situation and context of
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  Speaker 1: everything is quite cooked. Like the news cycle is wild,
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  Speaker 1: and it feels like every news story coming out is
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  Speaker 1: one that is like fearmongering and overwhelming and anxiety inducing
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  Speaker 1: and no wonder why people feel burnt out from it.
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  Speaker 1: But then also because a lot of the news at
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  Speaker 1: the moment is incredibly wild, it's also I need to
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  Speaker 1: know what's going on? Yeah, how do I stay informed
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  Speaker 1: with all of this going out whilst also prioritizing my
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  Speaker 1: mental health and still having like a sparkly spirit? Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Where's the fine line between being informed but also still
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  Speaker 3: having hope and joy?
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  Speaker 2: Exactly?
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  Speaker 1: So, there was a post from Good Good Good Co,
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  Speaker 1: who you follow by the way, So is it possible
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  Speaker 1: to stay informed without doom scrolling?
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  Speaker 3: Yes?
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  Speaker 1: So five tips to avoid burnout from Good Good Good Co.
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  Speaker 1: And an interesting point is that this post had over
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  Speaker 1: thirty two thousand likes, So again, don't feel bad for
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  Speaker 1: feeling burnt out from the news cycle.
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  Speaker 2: Everyone does so.
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  Speaker 1: Number one, which I think is the most important, is
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  Speaker 1: don't get all your news from social media, like it's
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  Speaker 1: not designed for processing the news with thought and intention.
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  Speaker 1: Platforms reward sensationalism, rage, bait, and misinformation, So instead visit
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  Speaker 1: news websites directly, sign up for newsletters, subscribe to print media,
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  Speaker 1: listen to a daily podcast like the Daily Oz.
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  Speaker 2: For example, love them.
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  Speaker 1: Number two, take intentional pauses when you're consuming the news,
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  Speaker 1: so you can take a second to ask yourself questions
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  Speaker 1: like am I learning new information? Am I feeling moved
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  Speaker 1: to take action? Am I getting connected to resources? And
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  Speaker 1: am I feeling hopeless or overwhelmed? And a lot of
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  Speaker 1: your answers to those questions will probably help you in
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  Speaker 1: that situation to be like, do I want to keep
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  Speaker 1: consuming this?
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  Speaker 2: Is this feeling me? Or do I want to consume
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  Speaker 2: something else?
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  Speaker 1: Number three is staying informed also means consuming good news.
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  Speaker 2: I think this is my favorite.
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  Speaker 1: Actually, yeah, at the moment, it definitely feels like every
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  Speaker 1: headline is so negative and some impending doom you're like,
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  Speaker 1: and it's important to have balance and to seek out
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  Speaker 1: stories of progress and good.
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  Speaker 2: Number four, talk to people, like.
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  Speaker 1: Literally talk to people about the news, and I think
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  Speaker 1: there is so much comfort in that because problems shared
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  Speaker 1: are problems halved. Like knowing that someone else is also
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  Speaker 1: nervous about certain things and conscious of this is kind
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  Speaker 1: of going to give you a sense of community and
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  Speaker 1: support within that. And then number five is that you're
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  Speaker 1: allowed to take a break from the news, but do
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  Speaker 1: try not to check out entirely, like we were kind
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  Speaker 1: of saying before. Having offline time is going to allow
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  Speaker 1: you to take the news.
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  Speaker 2: In a more impactful way.
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  Speaker 1: And I showed Sow this video earlier this week, and
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  Speaker 1: it was from this creator on TikTok, who is so funny.
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  Speaker 1: I love her, and she made this post. I'll link
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  Speaker 1: it in the show notes. She does like a lot
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  Speaker 1: of comedy skits and blah blah blah, but she's obviously
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  Speaker 1: been commenting on the political climate at the moment, and
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  Speaker 1: her response was this video of.
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  Speaker 5: Being like, Oh, don't get political, don't get political, blah
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  Speaker 5: blah blah blah blah, to which she said, don't ask
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  Speaker 5: me to tap dance on a stage that's on fire
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  Speaker 5: and not expect me to say it's getting warm.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I love that.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think we're in a situation now where where
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  Speaker 1: you can't have a statement on it and can't feel
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  Speaker 1: a certain way on it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Well we've said this before and like quoted this before,
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  Speaker 3: that not caring about politics is a privilege, and.
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  Speaker 2: Like life is political, world is political.
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  Speaker 1: You might not care about politics, but politics cares about you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so do that what you will.
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  Speaker 1: However, I also wanted to end this segment there's some
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  Speaker 1: good news stories that happen this week to balance out
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  Speaker 1: the bad, because it's not just you and everything does
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  Speaker 1: feel fucked. Brook McIntosh became the youngest and fastest woman
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  Speaker 1: to run around Australia and raised over two hundred thousand
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  Speaker 1: dollars for mental health.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: The critically endangered and rare gray nurse shark numbers are
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  Speaker 1: increasing on the East Coast to around fifteen hundred day.
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  Speaker 1: The United Nations confirmed the ozone layer is on track
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  Speaker 1: to make a full recovery by mid century. Huntington's disease,
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  Speaker 1: known as a fatal genetic illness with no cure, successfully
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  Speaker 1: has been treated in first major breakthrough in Sweden, they're
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  Speaker 1: implementing a nationwide mobile phone band in schools to improve
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  Speaker 1: security and study conditions. And the next one, which I
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  Speaker 1: think will be your favorite, is in Uganda. On Monday,
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  Speaker 1: they named seventeen rhino calves in a special ceremony as
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  Speaker 1: part of efforts to revive a species once extinct in
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  Speaker 1: the country.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god, that is my favorite. All of those
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  Speaker 2: are great though.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then also some creators to follow that majority
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  Speaker 1: of these have substacks. You can go to their websites
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  Speaker 1: or you can follow them just to kind of rebalance
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  Speaker 1: your feeds and to stay informed. Is one shit you
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  Speaker 1: should care about. Obvious they have a subsect. I highly
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  Speaker 1: recommend number two, Missing Perspectives. They have some really amazing
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  Speaker 1: content and the way that they break down what's going
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  Speaker 1: on and also provide you with a new way to
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  Speaker 1: look at things from missing perspectives is incredible.
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  Speaker 2: We're All Kind by Millie Rose Banister.
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  Speaker 1: She is literally one of my favorite people, and it's
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  Speaker 1: a very positive and safe space on the Internet. Cheek
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  Speaker 1: Media speaks for itself, run by Hannah Ferguson. It's one
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  Speaker 1: of probably the strongest platforms for young women wanting to
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  Speaker 1: stay informed and last, but not least, good good good
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  Speaker 1: code for a source of good news that doesn't feel
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  Speaker 1: like you're drowning in a puddle of negativity.
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  Speaker 2: Let's move on to the hustle aka success burnout.
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  Speaker 3: I think that this is a major cause of burnout
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  Speaker 3: for the majority of young people. Yeah, Like even just
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  Speaker 3: in our everyday conversations when you catch up with people
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  Speaker 3: and you're like, have you been going, I feel like
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  Speaker 3: the most common response is yeah, good, just really busy
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  Speaker 3: with work? Yeah it was yeah, yeah. And there's also
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  Speaker 3: data to back this. Australians are one of the most
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  Speaker 3: burnt out employees in the world. According to the OECD
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  Speaker 3: Better Life Index, we rank thirty two out of forty
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  Speaker 3: one in terms of work life balance in the world.
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  Speaker 2: So we're down the bottom.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, thirty two out of forty one. Like that's pretty dire.
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: Also a twenty twenty it's.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: Number one for not having What country doesn't have burnout?
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: And what's the citizenship process to.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: These just asking for a friend? Just asking for a friend?
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: We can record the pod remotely, Yeah, no, you're coming
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: with no, that's what I mean.
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: Like, we can still chat to the Aussie chicks, but
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: from abroad from a broad Another twenty twenty four study
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: from Leading Mentally Healthy Workplaces Survey report revealed that forty
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: six percent of employees reported that they were experiencing burnout
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: that year. This was up from forty four percent in
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: twenty twenty two, and according to that same report, there
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: were higher rates of burnout amongst respondents.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: Who reported work as their stressor.
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: And the interesting thing is that while we may feel
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: like dedicating the majority of our time and energy to
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: our work is a good thing for us in our career,
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: it actually has the reverse effect in the long term,
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: and workplace burnout can really impair how you perform at work.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: It can impact your short term memory, your attention, and
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: other cognitive processes that you actually need to do your
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: day to day work. So you think by doing overtime
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: and staying late and not taking your lunch break and
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: not using your annual leave, that you're showing up and
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: maybe being like the best employee that you can be,
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: But really this only works. It's not sustainable. Like it
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: probably you know, will make you feel like you're being
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: more productive in the short term, but in the long
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: term it's going to have a really negative impact.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: One of the biggest signs of burnout is the fact
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: that you can't focus, but you can't stop thinking.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: It's like, you have all these.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: Things to do, You've got all this noise running around
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: in your head, but when you go to do any
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: of that, go to check anything off your list, you
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: actually can't do it because you're stuck in this static
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: of frazzled burnout.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't even know where.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: You can't even be productive, and it's why you procrastinate
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: everything and you're so hired and you try to rest,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: you can't rest.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: Like why am I laying in bed all day? But
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: I'm still exhausted. Yeah, that's burnout.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: You're paralyzed by the burnout, and you feel like you're
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: being lazy and you feel yuilty, and it's just a
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: toxic cycle.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's definitely, especially in this new age of social media,
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: there is this thing that I think.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: Is like the success trap.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: Of everyone is and as they should be screaming so
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: loud for their success because they're also trying to be successful.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: That everyone's looking at everyone else's timeline of success rather
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: than looking at theirs and not realizing that your success
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: does not need to look the same as someone else's.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Your success could literally be the fact that you read
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: a book this week, not the fact that you have
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: a six figure salary.
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: I saw a TikTok creator who was saying that living
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: below your means really shows you how little you need
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: to feel joy your life, and I think that is
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: a good example of that. Like readjust what your perception
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: of success is. Career can still sit within that, but
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: it shouldn't be the only thing, because you're not going
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: to get long term joy out of that in most cases.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: When you die.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: When you die, is anyone going to turn around and
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: say at your funeral, we really miss Alex and she
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: increased our urli by sixty percent.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: No, they're going to stay good sheep.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: You know they're going to say she was there for
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: her friends, she had the most crazy laugh you've ever heard,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: she loved cooking, she loved her smutty fantasy books. And
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: you know, cats like they're going to point out all
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: these things that have actually nothing to do with whether
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: or not you sent that email at nine thirty am.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: So In one study, sixty percent of people with burnout
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: had an inability to disconnect from work as their main
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: feature of burnout. So there is kind of this traditional
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: idea that burnout is someone that doesn't care they're tired,
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: if they're late to work, they don't show up, blah
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: blah blah blah. But it's also a person that is
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: over engaged and can't shut off from work, which is
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: also known as atypical burnout. Burnout can manifest in so
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: many different ways that if you're someone that is literally
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: just can't actually turn off their brain from work, that's
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: also burnout. It's not hustle, it's not drive, it's not
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna get that bag sis. Yeah, we love, we
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: love working for our passion. That's fine, that's not what
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: we're saying. But also there's other things in life. There's
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: the ocean and sunrises and having a lovely little south
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: Side cocktail with your best friend.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like your relationship. Do you know what's better than
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: going to work? Sitting in a pub with a friend
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: and going, shall we just split a bottle? Should we
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: get some chip? Should we get some chips? Should we
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: get some ali garlic? Ali? Ah?
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: And I actually saw Kim Elizabeth James, who we had
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: on the podcast very recently, who creates a lot of
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: content about like career tips and productivity and burnout. And
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: she had a really good tip as a form of burnout, girly,
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: if you do struggle to turn your brain off after work.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: So she said that if she's brushing her.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: Teeth and a thought pops into her mind about work,
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: she quickly sends herself an email and then puts her
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: phone down.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: And that helps release that thought out of her brain.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: But then also she doesn't forget it, and it keeps
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: her accountable because otherwise you'll be like, Okay, yeah, cool,
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: I'll do that tomorrow.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And you tell yourself that, but then you're like,
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: oh shit, am I going to forget about it?
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: And you find yourself like waking up in the middle
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: of the night being like, don't forget to schedule that email,
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: don't forget to blah blah.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: So I think that's really good.
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: LL like slack yourself, write it down in your notes, up,
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: email yourself, whatever that is, but write it down and.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: Let it free.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: Ye.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: I think it is a good to put it down
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: and let it free.
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: And another thing that you can do is defining off hours.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: So make it very clear what time you start what
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: time you finish.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: We've mentioned this before.
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: There are actual laws in place that your manager can't
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: contact you outside of workplace hours, and.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: That it's very well within your right not to respond.
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: So make those things clear, like turn your notifications off,
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: know that you're going to finish at five point thirty
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: every day. And also I think filling your midweek with
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: hobbies and things that you want to do outside of
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: work is another really good thing that will keep you
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: accountable and stop you from being like, oh well, I'll
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: just sit on the couch and watch TV and then
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: a slight notification comes up and you find yourself replying
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: to emails.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: And what I was going to add to that as well,
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: We spoke about this in an episode previously, and I'll
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: make sure to relink to the original creator as well
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: in the show notes again, but to create an excited
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: list every week, like at the start of your week,
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: right down all the things that you're excited for that
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: have nothing to do with work, that have nothing to
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: do with any meetings or to do or anything. It's
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: purely the things that you're excited for, like going for
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: a morning walk or getting dinner at that tire restaurant.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: You've really been wanting to try, or going and seeing
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: a new movie or hanging out with your cats, and
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: make it big, small, whatever you want.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: But it just has nothing to do with work.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: And it's a great reminder that life is so short
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: and success is literally made up.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: You can decide if you're successful.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: You could literally say I'm successful because I can afford
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: my rent, and that's very successful.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: You know, if you can afford food, rent and to
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: pay your bills, like you're a lot more well off
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: than the majority of people in this world, and that's
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: something to be really grateful for. I do think also
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: creating a shutdown ritual at the end of your day
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: is also a good way to switch off and create
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: that physical barrier between work and your real life. So
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: if that is going for a walk or going to
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: the gym, or making your dinner or listening to a podcast,
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: or your dance party.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: So no, I did that. The other day.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: We put on Now and Never from High School Musical three,
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: had a little dance party, worked to train. It was great,
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: and then our final burnout to combat and rebalance is
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: the people pleasing burnout, also known as the rise of
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: nice Girl exhaustion. If you're a woman in your twenties,
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: thirties or beyond, chances are you've been taught explicitly to
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: be helpful, a team player, low maintenance, don't be bossy,
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: be a good friend, while kindness is a strength. Constantly
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: prioritizing everyone else's needs over your own is the fast
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: track to burnout and exhaustion. And this people pleasing burnout
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: is just quietly demental life, sucking the energy out of
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: women everywhere. And I think as well, we see this
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: modernized version with terms like girl's girl doing the circulation.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: And I know people disagree with me on this, and
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: that's so fine, But the term girl's girl is just
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: another way to say be good, Yeah, don't be bad
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: to women.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: What form of girl's girl is there for men?
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: So true.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: And it's more often used as a tool to bring
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: another woman down rather than lift them up. Yeah, it's
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: inherently laced with this undertone of internalized misogyny, like the
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: callers coming from inside the house.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, pitting women against you exactly.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: And it's like, be nice, be a girl's girl, helpful,
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: don't complain, don't winge, don't be bossy.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: That's a bad girl. Yeah, naughty, naughty. It's literally that
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: speech in the Barbie movie exactly, and it's exhausting.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: And I think as well, people don't realize how much
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: of your energy is going to be drained from wanting
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: to be a nice girl. You would be surprised how
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: much of your energy drains away because of other people's
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: actions and the expectations that you've built around how you
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: wish they were, and all those tiny frustrations and expectations
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: add up like death by a thousand cuts on your
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: nervous system.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: If you're wondering.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: Why you always feel exhausted and overwhelmed and stressed and
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: like you never have any time to do things for yourself,
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: look at how much energy you're spending thinking about other
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: people's emotions and other people's life and the things that
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: you can and can't control. A big part of that
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: is the power that you hand over to other people's
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: opinions and behaviors and things that just don't sit within
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: your control, and then by doing so, you turn them
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: into ongoing problems in your life. And the truth is
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: that other people are the most magical source of joy
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: and support and sparkly feelings that just make you feel
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: warm and fuzzy inside. As soon as you let others
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: be simply who they are, like, watch your battery become
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: full times ten and a billion.
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: It's not your job to manage other people exactly, be
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: there for them and support them, but it shouldn't be
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: at the detriment to yourself and.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: Your NEPH system.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: And a lot of people that relate to this probably
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: have that anxious attachment style as well. You're thereforward planning
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: the actions of someone else and therefore trying to your
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: actions accordingly.
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like you're trying to emotionally regulate somebody else
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: without emotionally regulating yourself first.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: And Steph who we had on recently, who is an
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: expert on attachment styles, her bos is what to do
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: when a partner's in a bad mood.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: But I think this could apply.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: To friends, parents, partners, colleagues. She says, again, this is
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: something anxiously attached people a very triggered pie. If a
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: partner or friend is being quiet, withdrawn, moody, irritable, it's
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: very much a people pleaser tactic to go, what did
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: I do?
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: I've got to fix it.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: I don't like this the best thing you can do
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: is rather than asking what's wrong a thousand times, is
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: to do nothing.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: It's to hold your center. It's to carry on.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: With your day as if everything is perfectly fine. Don't
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: give it more attention, and don't join them in the storm. Yeah,
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: you'll often find that the storm passes and it had
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: nothing to.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: Do with you.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: And there was a really great quote from Mel Robbins
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: that I want to tie this up with, and it's
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: that people pleasing is about your inability to feel uncomfortable
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: normal emotions.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: Being uncomfortable is a part of life.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: And as soon as you get comfortable with being uncomfortable,
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: you'll find your people pleasing burnout and your nice giral
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: exhaustion to completely cease, or at least be a little
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: bit less, because you'll stop constantly anticipating everyone's needs and
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: you'll just focus on your own.
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you won't go into that final flight mode when
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: somebody else is in a bad mood.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like Jem from the Psychology of Your Twenties podcast,
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: and it's this famous quote that you know, you could
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: be the ripest, juiciest, delicious peach in the whole world,
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: and there will still be someone who doesn't like peaches.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, fucking that's okay. That's fine. They can eat an apple,
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: for all. I can make you eat an apple. I'll
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: go find a juicy apple.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: Well, that is a wrap for our tough love pep
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: talk of the week. I'm also taking notes and I
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: hope that has helped.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: You, chicks. Thanks for having us in her olds. Chicks,
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: we love to be here. Bye bye