Latest / Spunky Spirit with Cari Mugz / Echoes of Scotland Episode 2: The Night the Veil Went Thin
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- 0:02Speaker 1: You're listening to this Monky Spirit podcast where intuition meets
- 0:06Speaker 1: real life. Hello and welcome to this episode of Monkey Spirit.
- 0:13Speaker 1: I am psychomedian Carry Muggs. And this week we are
- 0:16Speaker 1: going to continue the Echoes of Scotland episodes, so many
- 0:20Speaker 1: series I'm doing about the Scotland trip I took with
- 0:23Speaker 1: Mysterious Adventure Travel Tours and it was amazing. So last week,
- 0:29Speaker 1: if you tuned in, I talked about the experience I
- 0:33Speaker 1: had with past life situation and remembering that I had
- 0:37Speaker 1: been there before. So this week we're going to talk
- 0:39Speaker 1: about my paranormal experience, which was also very amazing. And
- 0:44Speaker 1: I'm not into you know, I used to not be
- 0:47Speaker 1: very much into the paranormal stuff. I did my readings
- 0:51Speaker 1: and sometimes I would do paranormal things, and I did
- 0:54Speaker 1: have an experience with something paranormal that made me realize
- 0:57Speaker 1: that sometimes it can be scary and sometimes it's not.
- 1:00Speaker 1: Most of the time, it's just spirits trying to tell
- 1:02Speaker 1: their story. And that's what I kind of learned in Scotland.
- 1:06Speaker 1: We went to a bar downtown Scotland, Scotland. If you
- 1:10Speaker 1: don't know about Scotland, it has a whole underground city,
- 1:13Speaker 1: almost like there's underground tunnels where the poor used to live,
- 1:18Speaker 1: and it is kind of it's kind of got an
- 1:20Speaker 1: eerie feeling in some of the underground parts of Scotland.
- 1:24Speaker 2: And I shouldn't say just.
- 1:25Speaker 1: The poor, because I mean, there was a time when
- 1:28Speaker 1: it was the thriving community underground, but it did end
- 1:31Speaker 1: up being towards the end, it did end up kind
- 1:34Speaker 1: of being for the homeless and the poor people. And
- 1:38Speaker 1: there's so much history in Scotland that I was just
- 1:40Speaker 1: clueless about.
- 1:41Speaker 2: That's so amazing. And we went to.
- 1:44Speaker 1: A bar called the Banshee Labyrinth and it was really
- 1:48Speaker 1: it has a theater in it and it has different
- 1:52Speaker 1: We did an underground tour, but then for the paranormal
- 1:54Speaker 1: experience we did this and we had our group. There
- 1:58Speaker 1: was about thirty people in our group and we split
- 2:00Speaker 1: up into four. There was about one There was five
- 2:04Speaker 1: people in our group, and so we each let up
- 2:06Speaker 1: into different groups and then did a tour in in
- 2:11Speaker 1: the labyrinth. The Banshee Labyrinth, it's actually a pretty cool
- 2:15Speaker 1: place and we in our group, I had I hope
- 2:19Speaker 1: I can say their names, but I'm just gonna say
- 2:21Speaker 1: their first names because you probably don't know them, but
- 2:23Speaker 1: it was Betsy, Wendy Maya, who Maya is going to
- 2:27Speaker 1: go to be in Paris with us. She's Maya's my girl.
- 2:31Speaker 1: But I love Betsy and Wendy too.
- 2:33Speaker 2: And Graham.
- 2:34Speaker 1: We were lucky that we got Graham. Graham was the
- 2:37Speaker 1: tour guide the whole time we were there, and he
- 2:40Speaker 1: was He's awesome.
- 2:41Speaker 2: He was so awesome.
- 2:42Speaker 1: And the reason why we were lucky we got Graham
- 2:44Speaker 1: is because we got to validate everything that we felt
- 2:47Speaker 1: or everything that we saw because he knew the history.
- 2:51Speaker 1: So other groups that went, if they didn't have somebody
- 2:53Speaker 1: who knew this history, they didn't get to validate. So
- 2:54Speaker 1: this is why this was a great experience for me
- 2:56Speaker 1: because I don't normally do paranormal stuff and this kind
- 2:59Speaker 1: of got me maybe I will. So the first room
- 3:04Speaker 1: that we went into was this big theater. It was
- 3:06Speaker 1: called a theater, and they play movies there in the labyrinth.
- 3:10Speaker 1: And it was the craziest thing because grand would start
- 3:14Speaker 1: asking questions and we'd hear this little knock. It would
- 3:18Speaker 1: like just be this little knock, and so we'd ask
- 3:20Speaker 1: like yes thereor no questions. And I got this. I
- 3:24Speaker 1: got this premonition. I think there's there's a there's two
- 3:28Speaker 1: children here. I felt a boy and a girl and
- 3:32Speaker 1: he's and I said, there's two kids. I feel for
- 3:35Speaker 1: sure there's a sister and a brother. And he was like,
- 3:38Speaker 1: is there an M here? And no, and he was
- 3:41Speaker 1: like is there a children here? And they got and
- 3:42Speaker 1: we got a yes. We got knocked and we got
- 3:44Speaker 1: to knock yes, and then he I said, I think
- 3:48Speaker 1: there's an M. There's an M name like Mary or
- 3:51Speaker 1: something M. And he asked if there was if his
- 3:55Speaker 1: if her name, if the if the spirit's name was Molly,
- 3:59Speaker 1: I think and there was a yes. And then I
- 4:02Speaker 1: was like, you know what I see a fire?
- 4:04Speaker 2: Was there a fire?
- 4:05Speaker 1: And Graham said yes, there was a fire, and it did,
- 4:09Speaker 1: but that's not what I was actually seeing. Because when
- 4:11Speaker 1: Graham explained to us what was going on, then it
- 4:14Speaker 1: kind of all came together. So I kept saying these
- 4:16Speaker 1: I think there's a girl and I think that her
- 4:19Speaker 1: name starts with a M, and I see a fire
- 4:23Speaker 1: and so at the end, and this is kind of
- 4:26Speaker 1: a sad story, but she just wanted to tell her story.
- 4:29Speaker 1: So Graham said that there was in those days, little
- 4:33Speaker 1: kids that were living underground, and there was a particular
- 4:37Speaker 1: girl named Molly, and she there's something about they found
- 4:42Speaker 1: her shoe. I didn't see that part, but they The
- 4:46Speaker 1: story was in those days Scotland, to clean their fireplaces,
- 4:52Speaker 1: they would send their smallest kids up the fireplace to
- 4:55Speaker 1: clean them, and apparently Molly got stuck up there and
- 4:59Speaker 1: that's where she you met, that's where she passed. And
- 5:02Speaker 1: so the fire that I was seeing wasn't actually a
- 5:05Speaker 1: fire that had happened. It was that she was trying
- 5:07Speaker 1: to tell me the fireplace, which was cool. I thought
- 5:11Speaker 1: was way cool. And here's the thing. I this was
- 5:14Speaker 1: my first experience with no I'd had one other paranormal
- 5:17Speaker 1: experience I think in it phenomenon too and and different things.
- 5:22Speaker 1: There was one other Oh, when I was taking a
- 5:24Speaker 1: class was Cindy Kaza I had. She did some paranormal
- 5:27Speaker 1: stuff from a distance and I was tapping and going,
- 5:30Speaker 1: oh my gosh, this is crazy. And then she would
- 5:32Speaker 1: say the history and I'd be like, oh my gosh,
- 5:34Speaker 1: that's so cool.
- 5:35Speaker 2: I was right.
- 5:35Speaker 1: So this was like kind of my second experiene actually
- 5:39Speaker 1: being at the place, and so it was really kind
- 5:41Speaker 1: of cool for me. And then we went to the
- 5:44Speaker 1: and you know, Maya and Wendy and Betsy, they'd chime
- 5:47Speaker 1: into and it was really cool because Wendy was picking
- 5:49Speaker 1: up some stuff and Betsy was doing the pendulum. She
- 5:52Speaker 1: was holding the pendulum, and Maya was helping in ways too.
- 5:56Speaker 2: It was so cool.
- 5:56Speaker 1: And then we went to the next room, which was
- 6:00Speaker 1: as kind of a I kind of felt it was
- 6:03Speaker 1: kind of a It was I felt like we weren't wanted.
- 6:06Speaker 1: I didn't feel any evil presence. I just felt like
- 6:09Speaker 1: we weren't wanted there. And I felt like there is
- 6:12Speaker 1: a spirit here that does not want us here. He's frustrated,
- 6:15Speaker 1: he's mad. It's a male spirit, and he's not a
- 6:18Speaker 1: very good person. And I feel like he has remorse.
- 6:21Speaker 1: And then Betsy kind of started picking up on stuff too,
- 6:24Speaker 1: like he's mad, he wants us out, And she didn't
- 6:26Speaker 1: really feel the remorse, but she didn't care because she felt.
- 6:29Speaker 2: The madness of it.
- 6:32Speaker 1: And and so and she kind of could pick up
- 6:34Speaker 1: on some of the things that he'd done. And I said,
- 6:37Speaker 1: I feel like he he liked killing women. So I
- 6:40Speaker 1: didn't know at this, you know that there was I
- 6:44Speaker 1: feel like he didn't like women, and I was thinking,
- 6:47Speaker 1: like Jack the Ripper type of thing like he was
- 6:49Speaker 1: because I felt he was taking women's lives and he
- 6:52Speaker 1: was torturing them and things like that. But I didn't
- 6:54Speaker 1: ever feel scared or a bad presence. But other people
- 6:58Speaker 1: that were in that room did feel like they were
- 7:02Speaker 1: being pushed out or felt like it was a bad
- 7:04Speaker 1: I don't want to really say evil, but they felt
- 7:06Speaker 1: like it was bad and they had to leave. So
- 7:08Speaker 1: I picked up though that there was remorse and he
- 7:12Speaker 1: was just telling his story. And that could be because
- 7:14Speaker 1: everybody picks up different things, right, And it could be
- 7:17Speaker 1: because that's the way my guides show it to me,
- 7:19Speaker 1: or that's the way. I mean, who knows why everybody
- 7:22Speaker 1: picks up different things. Betsy was picking up something. We
- 7:25Speaker 1: were picking up similar things, the same things, but Betsy
- 7:28Speaker 1: had the kind of evil, gross feeling. I just had
- 7:31Speaker 1: a feeling of like, here's my information. I did feel
- 7:34Speaker 1: like we were not wanted there. I felt like we
- 7:36Speaker 1: were intruding, and I felt like he wanted us to leave.
- 7:39Speaker 1: And I did say I feel like there's a ja.
- 7:41Speaker 1: There's some sort of there's a jay around him or
- 7:44Speaker 1: something about a jay, and he does he does like too,
- 7:48Speaker 1: he does enjoy torturing these women or or hurting these women.
- 7:55Speaker 1: And so Graham at the end was and then Betsy
- 7:58Speaker 1: was doing the pendulum, and Wendy was also tuning in,
- 8:01Speaker 1: and and Maya was listening for Knox, because I think
- 8:04Speaker 1: we were listening. We were doing Knox again, but this
- 8:07Speaker 1: time I think there was answers through the pendulum. And
- 8:11Speaker 1: so Graham told us the story that this was the
- 8:15Speaker 1: assistant or the person close to King James. That's probably
- 8:19Speaker 1: where I picked up the j And he did like
- 8:23Speaker 1: he was the one who was he was like the
- 8:25Speaker 1: witch hunter. He would go after the women and accuse
- 8:29Speaker 1: them of being witches and torture them until they were
- 8:32Speaker 1: So it wasn't like a it wasn't like a king.
- 8:35Speaker 1: It wasn't like a like a Jack the Ripper thing.
- 8:38Speaker 1: It was more like he was torturing these women because
- 8:41Speaker 1: he thought that they were witches. And King James is
- 8:43Speaker 1: the one who wrote the whole Demons of Witches but
- 8:47Speaker 1: books and also changed the Bible. So it was kind
- 8:50Speaker 1: of interesting that that was kind of when that's what
- 8:54Speaker 1: we tapped into. And it's interesting too how we both
- 8:57Speaker 1: you know, Betsy picked up the evilness and the sadness
- 9:00Speaker 1: and I and even neither one is right or wrong.
- 9:03Speaker 1: Betsy was right on and I was too, but I
- 9:05Speaker 1: just picked up the information, and I actually picked up
- 9:08Speaker 1: the remorse like he knew, he knew what he did
- 9:11Speaker 1: was bad, and he knew it was and I knew
- 9:14Speaker 1: he didn't want us there. But I never felt in
- 9:18Speaker 1: any way uncomfortable or that we should.
- 9:20Speaker 2: Leave, or that it was scary.
- 9:22Speaker 1: And that's where he would torture these women or hunt
- 9:25Speaker 1: these women, is in this vicinity, And so that was
- 9:28Speaker 1: super interesting to me. That it was cool to me
- 9:33Speaker 1: to realize too that you could have these experiences and
- 9:35Speaker 1: not feel scared. And I'm sure that this is there
- 9:38Speaker 1: are times as a paranormal investigator and a medium, you
- 9:41Speaker 1: can go on these things and feel terrified and feel that.
- 9:44Speaker 1: But I didn't feel it here, which was interesting to
- 9:46Speaker 1: me because I thought paranormal was all about being scared,
- 9:50Speaker 1: and it's not. I guess it's just in the movies
- 9:52Speaker 1: or in the shows that they show. So the next
- 9:55Speaker 1: room we went to, I did see that there was
- 9:57Speaker 1: a woman and I said, I think she choked, like
- 10:01Speaker 1: I think she couldn't breathe and I feel like she
- 10:03Speaker 1: had to take care of kids, or she was taking
- 10:05Speaker 1: care of kids and she was cooking.
- 10:07Speaker 2: And I said, I.
- 10:10Speaker 1: Feel like she feels a lot of pressure or she's
- 10:13Speaker 1: cooking a lot and she's taking care. That's what I
- 10:15Speaker 1: mostly picked up. And I did pick up an m
- 10:16Speaker 1: name here too. I said, I feel like there's another
- 10:19Speaker 1: M name around this, but I didn't know if you
- 10:22Speaker 1: know that was from Molly, because you know, we're still
- 10:24Speaker 1: we're just in a different room but in the same
- 10:28Speaker 1: bar type thing. And then Graham did say there is
- 10:32Speaker 1: there was a female here who was oh, yes, And
- 10:37Speaker 1: I did pick up that there was somebody there was
- 10:41Speaker 1: a male that was being abusive or that was being
- 10:46Speaker 1: rude or abusive.
- 10:47Speaker 2: Or not nice.
- 10:49Speaker 1: And so then Graham did say there was a female
- 10:52Speaker 1: and she was the head of I think she was
- 10:54Speaker 1: head of the kitchen, and there was a male that
- 10:58Speaker 1: was hitting on or being an appropriate with a female waitress,
- 11:03Speaker 1: and she, the female waitress, tried to push him, oh,
- 11:06Speaker 1: the female waitress, and he wasn't listening or he wouldn't
- 11:09Speaker 1: leave her alone. And so the male, the female of
- 11:13Speaker 1: the kitchen, the head the head kitchena her name was Mary,
- 11:16Speaker 1: so I did pick up the m she shot him,
- 11:19Speaker 1: and so I was like, well, that's weird because I
- 11:22Speaker 1: didn't feel the shoot. I didn't feel the shooting. I
- 11:24Speaker 1: felt like Mary had choked or Mary couldn't breathe, and
- 11:28Speaker 1: he said they hung her for doing that, and so
- 11:31Speaker 1: it all made sense to me. So it was so
- 11:33Speaker 1: cool to experience that. And I do have you know,
- 11:37Speaker 1: I can do readings and I because I've had lots
- 11:40Speaker 1: of barts with that, but for paranormal I do kind
- 11:42Speaker 1: of want to practice. I do want to start practicing.
- 11:45Speaker 1: And because to me, it wasn't evil and it wasn't scary,
- 11:47Speaker 1: it was something. It's just that they wanted their story told.
- 11:50Speaker 1: It wanted they wanted to let us know, you know,
- 11:54Speaker 1: all about them and their story being told. And I
- 11:57Speaker 1: thought that was the most interesting thing ever. And then
- 12:01Speaker 1: there was one time so that was a really really
- 12:04Speaker 1: good experience. And then there was a couple of times
- 12:06Speaker 1: when we would tour the castles and there was a
- 12:10Speaker 1: picture that I took when I posted of a little
- 12:14Speaker 1: chair sitting in front of fire, and I did see
- 12:17Speaker 1: a little boy spirit, like a little a little male spirit.
- 12:20Speaker 1: I didn't get any you know, confirmation or validation. I
- 12:23Speaker 1: was kind of doing it on my own and Graham
- 12:25Speaker 1: wasn't around, so I don't know if there was, you know,
- 12:28Speaker 1: talk of a boy, but I did see.
- 12:30Speaker 2: It and it was it was way cool.
- 12:35Speaker 1: And then other times, like when I was doing the
- 12:38Speaker 1: past regression, like the I would see visions in my head,
- 12:44Speaker 1: but I never actually saw a spirit. I would just
- 12:46Speaker 1: see visions of like different lifetimes or past lifetimes. So
- 12:52Speaker 1: it was all in all just the best experience, like
- 12:55Speaker 1: great experience. But you can practice these things too. When
- 12:58Speaker 1: I was taking my class was Cindy Kaysa. She would
- 13:02Speaker 1: show us a picture of a house or our picture
- 13:05Speaker 1: of a haunted house, and she made me realize she
- 13:08Speaker 1: taught when she was teaching, you don't have to be
- 13:11Speaker 1: at the place to do this. And so she would say, Okay,
- 13:16Speaker 1: I want you to write down everything you feel about
- 13:18Speaker 1: this house, and then I would write down everything that
- 13:22Speaker 1: I felt, and then she would be like, Okay, this
- 13:24Speaker 1: is right, and this is right and this is right.
- 13:26Speaker 1: One of the classes she did, I can't remember the
- 13:30Speaker 1: killer's name, but he was really really badened. She showed
- 13:33Speaker 1: a picture of the place and I saw that it
- 13:37Speaker 1: happened in the seventies. I saw that I saw a
- 13:40Speaker 1: woman being dragged to another room, and I saw that
- 13:44Speaker 1: there was a mail and I saw that somebody and
- 13:46Speaker 1: I saw cash register and I saw some money taking it,
- 13:49Speaker 1: and I knew that somebody had been killed there. Interesting
- 13:51Speaker 1: thing it was I can't remember the guy's name, but
- 13:55Speaker 1: it was it was the one guy who hated his mom.
- 13:57Speaker 1: That was a laundry mat and and I saw the
- 14:00Speaker 1: guy peeking in the window and all of that was
- 14:04Speaker 1: actually true. What I didn't see is all the gore
- 14:07Speaker 1: like he was. This was a really gory serial killer
- 14:09Speaker 1: and there was a lot of blood and I didn't
- 14:11Speaker 1: see that. So I must have some sort of block
- 14:14Speaker 1: that my spirit guides or I've asked for or my
- 14:18Speaker 1: protection guides don't let me see that stuff because when
- 14:23Speaker 1: I have done the paranormal work, and maybe it's because
- 14:24Speaker 1: I haven't done it enough, I think my spirit guides
- 14:27Speaker 1: just know that I that stuff can really really affect me,
- 14:32Speaker 1: and so maybe I've chosen not to see that part
- 14:35Speaker 1: and they just give me like the facts and the details,
- 14:37Speaker 1: and maybe that's how I pick it up. And Mike,
- 14:40Speaker 1: you know, honestly, my readings are.
- 14:41Speaker 2: A lot like that too.
- 14:42Speaker 1: I pick up the facts and the details and all
- 14:44Speaker 1: the evidence and say, this is what they look you know,
- 14:47Speaker 1: this is this is this is what they're telling me,
- 14:50Speaker 1: this is what's going on in your life, this is
- 14:51Speaker 1: what they're doing now, this is what And so it's
- 14:54Speaker 1: it's kind of cool because.
- 14:56Speaker 2: Maybe that's just how I do it.
- 14:57Speaker 1: Maybe if I wanted to pick up some of that stuff,
- 15:00Speaker 1: I could tell my spirit guyes to allow more of
- 15:02Speaker 1: that information in. But honestly, to start out like this,
- 15:07Speaker 1: it's it's been good for me. And so I really
- 15:10Speaker 1: kind of might tap into some of the paranormal or
- 15:13Speaker 1: start might looking into some of the paranormal because Scotland
- 15:18Speaker 1: is full of history and and you know what, when
- 15:21Speaker 1: we were in the Mason Place, to the Free Mason Place,
- 15:24Speaker 1: I did see like spirits, meetings of spirits, but I
- 15:28Speaker 1: saw lots of them and it wasn't like a scary thing.
- 15:31Speaker 2: And I never.
- 15:31Speaker 1: Felt an evil. I never felt evil or bad. That's
- 15:35Speaker 1: the thing. And I know that I have before in
- 15:40Speaker 1: when I was little and I or when I've had
- 15:42Speaker 1: different experiences. So I do know that the bad and
- 15:47Speaker 1: the lower frequency do exist. And I and I'm not
- 15:50Speaker 1: going to say because there are some people out there
- 15:52Speaker 1: that think that that stuff doesn't exist and that you
- 15:56Speaker 1: create that, and I know that for my story and
- 15:59Speaker 1: for my truth, that's not true. I've seen some of
- 16:01Speaker 1: the stuff, some of the scary things, and in fact,
- 16:06Speaker 1: that's why I don't play with WIGI boards or I
- 16:08Speaker 1: haven't used vdy boards, and some mediums think they're great
- 16:10Speaker 1: and I just don't. And I would, you know, if
- 16:13Speaker 1: anybody asks me, I would be like no, because sometimes
- 16:16Speaker 1: I also will admit that I did do that experience
- 16:20Speaker 1: when I wasn't really prepared and I didn't really understand
- 16:22Speaker 1: what I was doing. And if you don't know what
- 16:25Speaker 1: you're doing and you kind of go into these things
- 16:27Speaker 1: unprepared and you don't know how to block and you
- 16:29Speaker 1: don't know how to protect, then it is it can
- 16:32Speaker 1: be scary and it can be difficult. So if you
- 16:36Speaker 1: are interested in like trying to do something that I
- 16:39Speaker 1: would practice first, I would practice with pictures. Have a
- 16:41Speaker 1: friend show you, And I do this in my psychic class,
- 16:44Speaker 1: in my psychic medium class, and I show pictures because
- 16:48Speaker 1: that's how you have to tap in. Have a friend
- 16:51Speaker 1: download some sort of haunted house and pictures of it,
- 16:53Speaker 1: and then you look at it and you see what
- 16:56Speaker 1: you pick up and the things that you pick up,
- 16:58Speaker 1: because it's really, really, actually pretty interesting. And that's what
- 17:02Speaker 1: I loved about Scotland. It had such a deep history,
- 17:05Speaker 1: and I already had felt like I belonged there at
- 17:07Speaker 1: one time or I experienced things there at one time,
- 17:11Speaker 1: and so it was kind of cool to pick up
- 17:13Speaker 1: that history in different people's history, like poor little Molly
- 17:17Speaker 1: who got into the fireplace, and this merry lady who
- 17:20Speaker 1: was just trying to protect her teenage waitress, and this
- 17:24Speaker 1: guy who you know, thought he was reading the world
- 17:27Speaker 1: of evil but actually enjoying it while he was doing it.
- 17:30Speaker 1: So kind of makes you think who was who was
- 17:33Speaker 1: really the evil one?
- 17:34Speaker 2: Right?
- 17:35Speaker 1: And how women were so kind of suppressed and you know,
- 17:40Speaker 1: we kind of always knew that. But the one thing
- 17:42Speaker 1: that was the craziest thing is the underground system, like
- 17:48Speaker 1: the underground living system, and how kind of you know,
- 17:52Speaker 1: it wasn't very clean, and you know, even underground there
- 17:56Speaker 1: were some not super high society people, but there were
- 18:01Speaker 1: some like there were a little like even the underground
- 18:04Speaker 1: place that was like for kind of the poor people.
- 18:08Speaker 1: It's still had They still had like a like a
- 18:12Speaker 1: pecking order or a you know what do you ever
- 18:15Speaker 1: call that, like a hierarchy. And the crazy thing was
- 18:19Speaker 1: is a lot of people ended up dying of cancer
- 18:21Speaker 1: in some of those places because of the asbestos that
- 18:25Speaker 1: was that they or some some that were in the
- 18:28Speaker 1: walls in those underground tunnels, and so you can't go
- 18:33Speaker 1: into some of the rooms, but they you can do
- 18:36Speaker 1: like a tour of some sort.
- 18:37Speaker 2: And when the pandemic was.
- 18:39Speaker 1: It was just, you know what, it was just kind
- 18:42Speaker 1: of like I like light, I like open, I like outside.
- 18:46Speaker 2: So to me it was kind of daunting.
- 18:49Speaker 1: It was kind of but if that's what you that's
- 18:52Speaker 1: all you knew, and that's how you, you know, lived
- 18:54Speaker 1: in then it would be different. But it was interesting
- 18:56Speaker 1: because I had no idea that these these places underground existed.
- 19:04Speaker 1: And we went to lots of the graveyards, which also
- 19:07Speaker 1: had kind of a sacred feeling like some people owe.
- 19:10Speaker 1: And then we did go to this one place and
- 19:12Speaker 1: I'll talk about more on the Fairy more about it
- 19:14Speaker 1: on the Fairy podcast, but this is where lots of
- 19:18Speaker 1: people were killed.
- 19:19Speaker 2: There was a big up.
- 19:20Speaker 1: There was a big well type of thing where they
- 19:23Speaker 1: would kill men and drop them in the well and
- 19:26Speaker 1: then you could go down the stairs and go into
- 19:28Speaker 1: this into this it kind of felt fairy shift if
- 19:32Speaker 1: that one did have a peaceful feeling for me, but
- 19:36Speaker 1: for other people in Scotland it has an evil feeling
- 19:40Speaker 1: or a bad feeling. And it was because their ancestries,
- 19:43Speaker 1: some of their a lot of their warriors were killed
- 19:46Speaker 1: in that spot and the intentions weren't great. But I
- 19:49Speaker 1: felt a peaceful like So it's so like a peaceful
- 19:54Speaker 1: like graveyard type of thing where their spirit yes they
- 19:58Speaker 1: may have been know killed there or but that their
- 20:04Speaker 1: spirits were there in peace, and so I thought that
- 20:07Speaker 1: was kind of cool.
- 20:09Speaker 2: And it all over the.
- 20:10Speaker 1: Place there was like little places that you could leave
- 20:13Speaker 1: things that you had brought, because you always give. You
- 20:17Speaker 1: don't really ever take anything from places like that, like
- 20:20Speaker 1: sacred places like Scotland and Hawaii, unless they're given to you,
- 20:24Speaker 1: but you can leave things, and always when you take
- 20:28Speaker 1: from the earth, you always want to give something back.
- 20:30Speaker 1: So I had ironically had a rock from in my
- 20:34Speaker 1: coat pocket that I left there, and people left strings,
- 20:38Speaker 1: people left bracelets, jewelry, so it was almost like a shrine,
- 20:41Speaker 1: and I felt very peaceful there. I felt like there
- 20:44Speaker 1: were lots of stories to be told. I felt calm,
- 20:49Speaker 1: But lots of people there felt uneasy. They feel it's scary,
- 20:54Speaker 1: they feel like it's not sacred, they feel like it's evil.
- 20:57Speaker 1: So it's so crazy how different people we can pick
- 21:00Speaker 1: up different things. And that just goes to show you
- 21:02Speaker 1: too that you never there's never a wrong or right
- 21:04Speaker 1: right because even with you know, with Sarabian there, she
- 21:09Speaker 1: picks up things differently than I do, and like even
- 21:11Speaker 1: when we were doing the past experience thing. That's why
- 21:15Speaker 1: every medium is different, Like they're kind of like different.
- 21:18Speaker 1: I would almost go as far as saying, like a bar, right, Like,
- 21:22Speaker 1: there's certain bars that you go to that are like
- 21:24Speaker 1: sit down bars, like you sit down and you enjoy
- 21:27Speaker 1: and speak easy bars. And then there's some that you
- 21:30Speaker 1: go and you dance and you do all this stuff,
- 21:32Speaker 1: and you have your favorite, right, you have a favorite one.
- 21:36Speaker 1: You can you can experience a lot of them or
- 21:38Speaker 1: different ones, but you always have one that's like the
- 21:41Speaker 1: one that you like to go to that's just like
- 21:44Speaker 1: your place. And that's kind of how we are as mediums.
- 21:48Speaker 1: There's just maybe one that you are called to, but
- 21:52Speaker 1: you enjoy experiencing lots of different ones. And that just
- 21:56Speaker 1: goes to show you too that there's no right or
- 21:58Speaker 1: wrong on how to do this. There's no right or
- 22:00Speaker 1: wrong on how to pick up things, because I can
- 22:02Speaker 1: pick up one thing and another medium can pick up
- 22:05Speaker 1: something completely different and also.
- 22:07Speaker 2: Do the land.
- 22:09Speaker 1: The land is always always important to the land that
- 22:12Speaker 1: you're in. And so it's like cyndy Kaiso when she
- 22:16Speaker 1: goes and she goes into places, she does automatic writing,
- 22:19Speaker 1: which is amazing way to pick up things too. So
- 22:22Speaker 1: every and what I'm trying to say is, yes, every
- 22:25Speaker 1: medium is ever.
- 22:26Speaker 2: But even you you, when you.
- 22:28Speaker 1: Pick up this stuff or when you start to pick
- 22:30Speaker 1: up things, you can pick it up in a different way.
- 22:32Speaker 1: That's why spirituality is the hardest thing to teach because
- 22:36Speaker 1: it's like our fingerprint. Everybody has a fingerprint, but everybody's
- 22:40Speaker 1: is different. And how you read spirit or how you
- 22:44Speaker 1: read your intuition or your intuitiveness is your own experience.
- 22:50Speaker 1: It's that's why it's so hard, because I could teach
- 22:52Speaker 1: you this is what you do, This is what you do,
- 22:54Speaker 1: This is what you do, and it may not work
- 22:55Speaker 1: for you because your fingerprint is different. And so that's
- 23:00Speaker 1: where you kind of tap in and figure out what
- 23:02Speaker 1: works for you. And just like me, paranormal wasn't my thing,
- 23:06Speaker 1: is it my thing now? Maybe my thing really is
- 23:10Speaker 1: to uplift people, to help them know that they have
- 23:12Speaker 1: a greater power inside of them, to help them know
- 23:15Speaker 1: that their ancestors are with them, their loved ones are
- 23:17Speaker 1: with them, that life doesn't end on earth, that there's
- 23:20Speaker 1: more to this life than earth. And so when you
- 23:24Speaker 1: when I did do that paranormal stuff, it kind of
- 23:27Speaker 1: validated that that these spirits, even though they kind of
- 23:30Speaker 1: wanted to stay and tell their story, they're not stuck
- 23:33Speaker 1: there in those places.
- 23:34Speaker 2: They have moved on.
- 23:35Speaker 1: They just wanted us to know the history, right. They
- 23:39Speaker 1: wanted to know what you know, their history. And so
- 23:42Speaker 1: that's what I love doing the most. So if I
- 23:44Speaker 1: go into paranormal, that would be great, But if I don't,
- 23:47Speaker 1: that's okay too. I'm just going to kind of go
- 23:49Speaker 1: where spirit guides me to go and where I feel
- 23:53Speaker 1: comfortable and I am. You know, I did want to
- 23:55Speaker 1: go to different places around town and around where I
- 23:58Speaker 1: live or different places, you know, not even where I live,
- 24:01Speaker 1: but like in Scotland, and I will in Paris and
- 24:04Speaker 1: Yellowstone and Disneyland even and kind of feel the energy
- 24:08Speaker 1: there and do podcasts on it, and I think I
- 24:10Speaker 1: will do that. It's just the traveling it's going to be.
- 24:13Speaker 1: That's going to be the trickery thing because I have
- 24:15Speaker 1: because you know, I do readings. I stay home and
- 24:17Speaker 1: I do readings too, so I got to figure out
- 24:19Speaker 1: how to put those things together. But yes, it did
- 24:21Speaker 1: open up a beautiful paranormal experience for me in what
- 24:24Speaker 1: better place than Scotland, right Edinborough, Scotland. And I loved it.
- 24:30Speaker 1: It was amazing and I will always remember it. And
- 24:32Speaker 1: it was just so cool to pick up different little
- 24:34Speaker 1: things and you know, one day I'll be able to
- 24:37Speaker 1: go and it will just flow for me. But and
- 24:39Speaker 1: instead of just gets getting bits and pieces all the time.
- 24:42Speaker 1: But it was it was fascinating and I loved it.
- 24:44Speaker 1: And you know, maybe my story would be different if
- 24:47Speaker 1: I did go and have a scary experience, but I didn't.
- 24:50Speaker 1: And you know, there were underground tunnels that that we
- 24:55Speaker 1: you know, we would go to in different rooms did
- 24:57Speaker 1: feel kind of bad. There was one with this in
- 25:00Speaker 1: it and one of the ladies had to leave because
- 25:04Speaker 1: she did feel like something touched her there, like on
- 25:06Speaker 1: her shoulder, and there was like a big circle, and
- 25:11Speaker 1: the guy was like, they told us the story about
- 25:13Speaker 1: the circle, and there was a few people that stood
- 25:16Speaker 1: in the circle, and good for them. I did not
- 25:19Speaker 1: because I know how much power circles can hold, and
- 25:22Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't feel great in that room and
- 25:25Speaker 1: one lady had left, so I didn't want to.
- 25:28Speaker 2: I didn't want to mess with it. I did.
- 25:29Speaker 1: It's not something I wanted to mess with at the time,
- 25:32Speaker 1: and so maybe if we were there a different time
- 25:34Speaker 1: and it didn't feel like that, maybe I would. But
- 25:37Speaker 1: circles have power, very powerful. Covens have circles, fairy circles,
- 25:44Speaker 1: spirit circles. There's so much power in circles. The moon
- 25:47Speaker 1: is a circle, there's eternity circle that I just at
- 25:50Speaker 1: the time did not. It wasn't that I wasn't brave.
- 25:53Speaker 1: I just didn't want to mess with it because I
- 25:55Speaker 1: was already dealing with some other stuff that I you know,
- 25:58Speaker 1: I didn't want to mess with that, so so I didn't.
- 26:01Speaker 2: Step in the circle.
- 26:02Speaker 1: Other people did. I don't know if they had bad
- 26:05Speaker 1: lek or goodlok Foe. I don't really, it was It's
- 26:07Speaker 1: my journey and my my intuition told me not to
- 26:12Speaker 1: step into it, so I didn't.
- 26:13Speaker 2: But that's the great.
- 26:15Speaker 1: Thing about your own intuition is not everybody it's the same,
- 26:19Speaker 1: and we can all be different. So that is my
- 26:23Speaker 1: paranormal experience in Skull and it was amazing. And if
- 26:26Speaker 1: you are into the paranormal and you want to do
- 26:29Speaker 1: more about the do more of paranormal stuff, then stick
- 26:32Speaker 1: around because I probably will end up doing some more
- 26:34Speaker 1: paranormal stuff. I'm thinking about doing some sort of travel
- 26:37Speaker 1: show or going to different spots and doing that and
- 26:40Speaker 1: putting on the podcast. But also too, I'm going to
- 26:43Speaker 1: Paris doing the Roane Cruise the River Rhone, and it's
- 26:47Speaker 1: going to be a big ship, but we're also going
- 26:49Speaker 1: to stay some you know, stop places, and they're going
- 26:52Speaker 1: to take us to all of the great paranormal spots
- 26:55Speaker 1: and spiritual spots and healing spots, and so it's gonna
- 26:59Speaker 1: be awesome if you want to go with that, if
- 27:01Speaker 1: you want to go with me in June and July,
- 27:03Speaker 1: I think it's June twenty fourth to July third, and
- 27:07Speaker 1: I'm excited, and my girl Maya is going to be
- 27:09Speaker 1: there and I have lots of I have quite a
- 27:12Speaker 1: few clients that are already going to go with me.
- 27:14Speaker 2: It's going to be a fun time. I'm super excited.
- 27:16Speaker 1: So if you want to go, the show notes are
- 27:19Speaker 1: in the link is in the show notes below. And
- 27:22Speaker 1: I do actually have some I think at the time
- 27:25Speaker 1: of this podcast, I do have some like ten spots
- 27:30Speaker 1: still open for my March gallery Healing with Spirit, and
- 27:35Speaker 1: it is going to be awesome. So there you go.
- 27:38Speaker 1: I hope you guys like that, And if you have
- 27:40Speaker 1: any ideas on what you want me to do as
- 27:44Speaker 1: far as podcasting or episodes, please let me know. I
- 27:47Speaker 1: was kind of thinking I was going to do some
- 27:48Speaker 1: mini serieses, but you know, it's hard because there's so
- 27:52Speaker 1: much going on in the world right now that sometimes
- 27:54Speaker 1: I just want to do a pop up, a pop
- 27:56Speaker 1: up thing like today, I'll probably post another just because
- 28:00Speaker 1: there's so much going on in the world. I'll post
- 28:02Speaker 1: another episode this week about how to navigate through that.
- 28:05Speaker 1: So anyways, I love you guys so much and I
- 28:07Speaker 1: will see you next week.