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Plant Talk, Garden Wisdom, and Your Questions [092725] · Garden America Saturday

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Garden America Show, the country's most to
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Speaker 1: listen to gardening program. This is your chance to join
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Speaker 1: us as we talk about gardening, horticulture, landscaping, in fact,
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Speaker 1: anything that has to do with the world of gardening.
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Speaker 2: Now here's Brian Maine.
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Speaker 1: John Bagnasco, and Tiger Palafox on the Garden America Radio
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Speaker 1: and Media Network.
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Speaker 3: Well, good morning, and welcome once again to Garden America.
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Speaker 3: Speaking of gardens, we're in a garden.
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Speaker 4: Hi.
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Speaker 3: I'm Brian Maine along with John Bagnasco, Tiger Pelafox and
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Speaker 3: again for the third, third week in a row, third
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Speaker 3: straight week, we are broadcasting from the backyard of Tiger
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Speaker 3: Palafox here in beautiful, wonderful overcast, San Diego, California.
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Speaker 5: John, beautiful, Is that correct? It's this third week? Because
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Speaker 5: the newsletter said it was the first week? Well, did
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Speaker 5: you want to approach that topic? Go ahead, Yeah, Well
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Speaker 5: you're the one who pointed it out.
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Speaker 3: I just noticed that the John, I think that was
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Speaker 3: a newsletter from two weeks ago when it was our
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Speaker 3: first time here.
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Speaker 5: I use old newsletters the template and I put in
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Speaker 5: replacements for the for the coming week.
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Speaker 2: Just new information.
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Speaker 5: It's a cut and paste and I forgot to replace
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Speaker 5: that part.
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Speaker 3: So this is actually our third time, our third week
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Speaker 3: in a row here at Tigers, not as the newsletter says.
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Speaker 6: And we did three different places so far, which is
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Speaker 6: pretty cool, right, Like we did up up by the house,
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Speaker 6: all right, we did in the middle of the grass,
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Speaker 6: and now we're down below. So we're showing people throughout
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Speaker 6: the yard during our show.
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Speaker 3: And we are a little bit further away from the
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Speaker 3: Wi Fi connection. Yes, that's all I'm gonna say. Yes,
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Speaker 3: let's just how are we doing?
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Speaker 4: John?
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Speaker 3: And John got himself on the phone. He found the show,
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Speaker 3: he's hooked up, he's ready and rested.
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Speaker 5: Turned off the volume so it doesn't interrupt exactly. Well.
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Speaker 5: I want to thank our good friend Carla in Huntington
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Speaker 5: Beach because last week we asked for suggestions for the newsletter.
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Speaker 5: We said, hey, if you have a topic you want
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Speaker 5: me to write about, go ahead, and she came up
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Speaker 5: with a topic and I used it for the future article.
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Speaker 5: It's interesting. I got to research old catalogs, which I
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Speaker 5: really never.
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Speaker 4: Give us something to do.
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Speaker 6: I collect old I was gonna say, because you collect
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Speaker 6: these catalogs, so so as a collector. There's only so
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Speaker 6: much room sometimes, right, and catalogs come out annually, you know,
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Speaker 6: so so now at what point in time do you
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Speaker 6: kind of be like, yeah, this one isn't worth it
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Speaker 6: for me to have anymore.
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Speaker 5: I think once online started.
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Speaker 6: But you just nowadays the catalogs that come out today
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Speaker 6: are not of value to you, not to me.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, to you.
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Speaker 5: You know, they're really expensive compared to what you Yeah,
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Speaker 5: and then you've got posts, yeah, you know for the
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Speaker 5: catalog too, And.
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Speaker 4: With online there's handling to you know, hand.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, don't even get me started handling.
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Speaker 2: You know, with online.
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Speaker 6: You know, one of the coolest things about online catalogs today,
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Speaker 6: and I'm not talking just about plants but about everything,
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Speaker 6: is you know, back in the day, they used to
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Speaker 6: sell you based on the photo that was put for
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Speaker 6: the plant, or for the outfit or the shirt or
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Speaker 6: the toy, right, They used to put a lot of
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Speaker 6: efforts into that artistry and that photograph. Well, the cool
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Speaker 6: thing nowadays is that you, as a member of the public,
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Speaker 6: can also post pictures a lot of times. So for instance,
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Speaker 6: like a plant, like a rose, you might have it
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Speaker 6: growing in your yard. You take a photo you can
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Speaker 6: post it to that catalog photo and then someone in
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Speaker 6: Sacramento can do it, and someone and Iba can do it,
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Speaker 6: and someone here can do it, someone Eilier. So you
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Speaker 6: can see like, oh, well, look at all these pictures
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Speaker 6: of this rose. This is how it really looks in
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Speaker 6: real life.
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Speaker 5: And a lot of websites have reviews that right there
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Speaker 5: for that SA say well, this person lives in San
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Speaker 5: Diego and it.
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Speaker 2: Looks gorgeous, you know, or it works well there.
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Speaker 6: And so so now there's this almost real aspect of
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Speaker 6: the online catalog to see like what am I really getting?
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Speaker 6: Because you know, when we were just shopping at of
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Speaker 6: catalogs before they gave you the you know, that's like
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Speaker 6: what people used to come to me and they used
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Speaker 6: to open up like the Better Homes and Garden magazine.
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Speaker 6: I want my yard to look like this. I'm like,
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Speaker 6: that is great, But that was yeah, and and that
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Speaker 6: was there was a lot of energy and effort that
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Speaker 6: went in for that one photo shoot. And not only that,
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Speaker 6: you see that plant right there that doesn't even really
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Speaker 6: sit there. They probably just stage that plant for the photo.
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Speaker 4: You know.
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Speaker 3: No, it's like it's like a house when you go
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Speaker 3: walk through a house and they stage age it exactly.
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Speaker 5: Well, now now that you bring that up, you guys
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Speaker 5: little off topic.
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Speaker 4: We never go off topay script.
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Speaker 5: Do you ever notice watching a movie where they're supposed
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Speaker 5: to be in one area?
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Speaker 2: I don't know if Brian does, but I do. I
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Speaker 2: do see that.
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Speaker 5: I noticed other there's a yeah, you can't have a
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Speaker 5: ficus in Minnesota, or I do?
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Speaker 3: I do catch you know, things you know that are
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Speaker 3: not not you know, synchronicity when wait a second, they
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Speaker 3: would just they just went down that road and that
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Speaker 3: car is not there anymore.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Or here's another one you can look at Twilight.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, here's one that I catch too. When you
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Speaker 3: want to want to catch an edit that's not so
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Speaker 3: obvious that his hair was hanging down over his forehead
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Speaker 3: two seconds ago. Now it's combed. Yeah, you know where
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Speaker 3: they stop and somebody on set does that. But yeah,
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Speaker 3: anything you know it's not a whack or not. You know,
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Speaker 3: the synchronicity aspect of something that most people would never
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Speaker 3: have never caught.
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Speaker 6: That more like a flower that's on a bush that
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Speaker 6: can't have that flower, you know, like they'll put hibiscus
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Speaker 6: flowers on everything because they can just stage them right right,
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Speaker 6: and they're very colorful and beautiful and they're big. But
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Speaker 6: you're looking at the leaf and you're like, that's not
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Speaker 6: a hibiscus bush.
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Speaker 4: You know.
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Speaker 3: Have you ever wondered why some old old movies or
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Speaker 3: black and whites, how the streets are always wet? Have
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Speaker 3: you noticed that, like in twilight Zone?
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Speaker 4: Yeah something?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well I finally looked it up. Why are the
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Speaker 3: streets always wet? It has to do with lighting, yeh,
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Speaker 3: shooting and camera and reflection and how it appeals to
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Speaker 3: your eye as somebody watching.
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Speaker 2: Then it's just very dull, like you know, you don't
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Speaker 2: pick it up if it's not wet.
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Speaker 4: It's always just rain.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 6: Well it's also because yeah it wherever they shot.
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Speaker 5: It at im in San Jose. Gave me a little
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Speaker 5: spart hare Brian, and maybe a correction.
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Speaker 4: For you, please do Yeah.
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Speaker 5: Your comment on the newsletter, Tanya points out, this is
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Speaker 5: the first time in this flow.
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Speaker 4: Yes, you, I take it back. I take it back.
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Speaker 5: I didn Yeah, I appreciate it.
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Speaker 3: I'm sorry that I attacked you, John, especially over the
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Speaker 3: year rude. So that next week, Talker, we're going to
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Speaker 3: be in the poolhouse. We're going to be in the pool. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: why not bring bring your bathing suits? About any common ship,
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Speaker 3: anything going up besides embarrassing you me in front of
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Speaker 3: the public and the nation of the world.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of chatter happening right now, but.
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Speaker 4: I hope it's good chatter.
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Speaker 5: Carol is calling from tuccent and or watching from Tucson,
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Speaker 5: I should say, and she said, they've had it. They
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Speaker 5: had a really good rain. Oh yeah, it's kind of
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Speaker 5: unusual for US September, you know.
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Speaker 2: And it was a good right and it was a
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Speaker 2: good rain.
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Speaker 5: It was supposed to rain tod y, Yeah, at least
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Speaker 5: in Bulbric.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 6: But the rain that we got was actual measurable rain,
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Speaker 6: where normally we get a rain and it's almost just
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Speaker 6: missing of the streets or something. But you know, this
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Speaker 6: was actually saturating the soil, and the plants responded to it.
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Speaker 2: It was really nice.
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Speaker 5: I'm trying to get ready for the auction plants. Oh perfect.
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Speaker 3: I was gonna say, do we want to tell people
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Speaker 3: why that camera whiches over to that table now?
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Speaker 4: And then that's true, we show they know what that.
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Speaker 2: The camera that's on the Orchid Mix and Orchid bark.
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Speaker 3: And there right now, okay, we are lyve from Tiger's
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Speaker 3: backyard looking at the orchid table time.
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Speaker 4: In this location.
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Speaker 5: But we were going to talk about dividing plants. But
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Speaker 5: right now, before we went on the air, we conquered
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Speaker 5: for right John, and now we're going to write. Okay,
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Speaker 5: we got that out of it.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, you know, the topic today I
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Speaker 2: think is going to be fun.
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Speaker 6: I will save for our listeners that are joining us
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Speaker 6: via biz Talk Radio Network that it will be a
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Speaker 6: very visual show.
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Speaker 2: We will do our best to describe to what's happening.
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Speaker 6: And at the same time, if you are very interested
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Speaker 6: in what we're listening or what you're listening to, you know,
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Speaker 6: go to our Facebook page, go to our YouTube channel,
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Speaker 6: and you'll be able to review the show after the fact,
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Speaker 6: because there will be some things that are going to
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Speaker 6: be very visual when it comes to dividing the orchids,
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Speaker 6: how to prepare it, what soil to use, and little
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Speaker 6: things to kind of know you know about dividing orchids.
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Speaker 3: And like Tiger mentioned, you can always go to our
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Speaker 3: YouTube page after the fact. This show is usually on
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Speaker 3: about one two o'clock a specific time, so you can
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Speaker 3: watch the entire show. Whenever you missed you can fast forward, pause, rewind,
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Speaker 3: and it gives you're a good aspect of what you
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Speaker 3: may have missed by listening to this show as opposed
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Speaker 3: to watching.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, any other questions or comments right now, John.
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Speaker 5: Well Carlos says, she kind of hesitates to say it. Now,
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Speaker 5: this was a great.
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Speaker 2: Nice that's a likely I really like.
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Speaker 6: I mean, all of the energy you're putting into the
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Speaker 6: new newsletters, you know, with the information, with the photographs,
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Speaker 6: with the with just the you know, changing of things.
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Speaker 6: You're you're changing buddies, changing more than you used to,
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Speaker 6: which is awesome.
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Speaker 5: Well, Brian pointed out that there's an article on dividing
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Speaker 5: uh covidion. Did you know part of the newsletter?
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Speaker 4: Frank, I'm a little weird about that when it does.
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Speaker 5: Exactly what happens when you tell a I make the
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Speaker 5: guy in the picture like.
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Speaker 2: Brian did or kid.
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Speaker 4: So what let's do the quart of the week?
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Speaker 3: John, We have a break coming up here, a first
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Speaker 3: break on this fine well, if you're if you're watching
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Speaker 3: listening live, it's a fine Saturday morning. And then we'll
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Speaker 3: take our break and we'll start talking about what we're
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Speaker 3: going to be doing today as far as dividing in
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Speaker 3: concret ring orchids is our I guess our topic today
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Speaker 3: to some degree.
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Speaker 5: Uh. The book came from one of your favorite people,
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Speaker 5: Brian beat Us.
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Speaker 4: Second absolutely, and she said that.
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Speaker 5: The more one garden, the more one learned, the more
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Speaker 5: one learned, the more one realized.
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Speaker 4: How Absolutely, And that's that's life in general.
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Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, I've heard that not only a blind guard,
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Speaker 5: but right a truth thing like you will die knowing
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Speaker 5: a lot less than you know. All Right, we're gonna
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Speaker 5: take a break. As the camera shines, As the camera shines.
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Speaker 4: On the the orchid set up there, the orchid mix
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Speaker 4: and the table there, We're gonna take a break. Bisktalk Radio, Facebook,
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Speaker 4: Life in the Garden of America. I'm Brian Maine, John
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Speaker 4: Dacnascar Attack of Palafox. Back after the messages on bistalk Radio.
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Speaker 7: Welcome back to the Garden America Radio Show with Brian
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Speaker 7: John and Tiger.
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Speaker 4: Well, well we made it. How about that?
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Speaker 3: Back here from Tiger's backyard, San Diego, California. If you're
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Speaker 3: just tuning in, you've tuned in, it's Garden America. Garden
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Speaker 3: America and we are here live on a rather overcast morning.
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Speaker 3: Whatever's going on in your backyard and your neck of
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Speaker 3: the woods around the world, across the nation, John, We've
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Speaker 3: got you covered gardening wise. We did talk about the
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Speaker 3: fact that today we wanted to do some dividing. John Tiger, yep.
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Speaker 3: Do we want to get into that now? Do we
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Speaker 3: want to set up the stage?
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Speaker 6: I think we can set the stage because there's some
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Speaker 6: information I think that would be good to give our
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Speaker 6: listeners before we actually showed, and you talked about how
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Speaker 6: to divide an orchid or a plant. You know, we've
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Speaker 6: talked about orchids a lot before. You know, just of
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Speaker 6: what they are, and you know why they are different
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Speaker 6: than other plants. You know, you know in terms of
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Speaker 6: where they grow and how they grow. And you know,
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Speaker 6: one of the things that you know people need to
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Speaker 6: know is that orchids actually don't really need or want
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Speaker 6: to be divided, you know, too much in the sense
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Speaker 6: of they like their roots to be crowded, right John,
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Speaker 6: Like like they like to be in apost.
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Speaker 5: Just wondering if you were offering me.
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Speaker 2: Well, these ones are these ones are a bit beyond.
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Speaker 4: That's a bit obvious with what we did this morning, taken.
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Speaker 6: But I mean, but I mean at the same time,
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Speaker 6: like you know, a normal plant, when you start to
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Speaker 6: see roots coming out of the pot, you'd be like,
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Speaker 6: I have to divide it. This is getting rouped out.
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Speaker 6: It's getting way too crowded for an orchid. Yeah, for
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Speaker 6: an orchid, you that could be No, you got a
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Speaker 6: couple of years left you you can still keep going
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Speaker 6: with it, you know, right.
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Speaker 5: Well, you know they're gonna survive no matter what. I think,
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Speaker 5: for the most part, the only way to kill an
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Speaker 5: orchid in my experience, yeah.
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Speaker 4: Neglect that it's gonna find a way to survive. M
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Speaker 4: But I have to look it up.
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Speaker 5: But for some reasons, I'm thinking orchids largest.
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Speaker 2: But that before too either or.
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Speaker 5: Mm hmmm, because one of the things we never think
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Speaker 5: about about orchids is all the hardy orchis hundreds and hundreds.
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Speaker 3: That must be hard in the pun wild to see
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Speaker 3: that in nature growing like oh yeah, it were you.
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Speaker 5: See like Wiley mm hmm when they're little tiny go
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Speaker 5: up the great roads ever uh so, yeah, to find wild.
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Speaker 4: Remember when we.
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Speaker 5: Went to coast, you know all those things Tiger pointed out,
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Speaker 5: all the epithetic plants growing up wild.
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Speaker 3: And on another note, this is kind of a kind
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Speaker 3: of the same comparison, is uh, when we saw the
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Speaker 3: wild parents, because I used to seeing him in a
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Speaker 3: pet shop. I used to I'm used to seeing Macause
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Speaker 3: in somebody's house, not flying around, you know, in the wild.
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Speaker 3: We saw two cans, We saw you know, various Uh, yeah, exactly,
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Speaker 3: but just to see. We pulled into a liquor store
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Speaker 3: to give a sandwich and some drinks and in the
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Speaker 3: parking lot and the trees were two or three parents.
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Speaker 3: So it's unusual to see that when you're not used
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Speaker 3: to be there or living there. But as you pointed out,
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Speaker 3: to see those growing wild like that must have been
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Speaker 3: must have been spectacular.
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Speaker 5: Tiger Lenora wants to know what the orange flowers are.
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Speaker 6: From behind the orchid display that I have. That's a tacoma.
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Speaker 6: So it's a variety of tacoma, So you know tacoma honeysuckle. Yeah,
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Speaker 6: and and do you know, I was just trying to
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Speaker 6: think of when I saw that question, what is the
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Speaker 6: difference between lonas era and tacoma lonas there is more.
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Speaker 2: The viny one and no, they're different.
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Speaker 6: Well, you know they're different species, but you know, a
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Speaker 6: lot of people will kind of you know, aren't they
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Speaker 6: both called like honeysuckles?
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Speaker 5: Right, But there's a lot of plants that they have.
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Speaker 2: Lear names, right, Okay, okay.
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Speaker 5: You know, like a lot of sarah is. Uh, they're
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Speaker 5: hearty for the most part. There there's bushy.
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Speaker 2: Okay, so there are bushy ones as well.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, so that's not because you know, sometimes you
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Speaker 6: can be like, oh, well, this one vines like dipladini
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Speaker 6: and mandavia. You know, a lot of people confuse those two.
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Speaker 6: But Dipladinians are more bushy, mandavia tend to be more viny. Yeah,
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Speaker 6: so okay, but yeah, that's a tacoma. And there's a
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Speaker 6: lot of varieties of tacoma coming out right now that
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Speaker 6: are you know, they have the yellow, they have the orange,
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Speaker 6: they have red, bushy, you know, small, big, you know,
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Speaker 6: they're very hearty.
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Speaker 5: Good plant. My mind just went blank.
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Speaker 4: What is.
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Speaker 2: I think that's the lnus there?
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Speaker 5: No, yeah, that's one of the proper.
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Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, but yeah, that's a tacoma right there. It's beautiful,
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Speaker 6: it's in full bloom. It's amazing the show. Look at
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Speaker 6: everything that's blooming. Look, it's winter time.
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Speaker 3: What look at that backyard because a lot of people
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Speaker 3: obviously you get into November even before you're you're shutting down.
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Speaker 3: You're shutting down. So we'll do that this winter. Give
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Speaker 3: you an idea of what what it looks like here
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Speaker 3: in San Diego. You know, you told me to hold
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Speaker 3: the mic away from over.
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Speaker 4: Just like this, just like that, not away, just just
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Speaker 4: a past.
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Speaker 5: I misunderstood, you instructed me. And Tanya says, don't listen
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Speaker 5: to Brian. You need to hold the mic closer.
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Speaker 3: No, we're talking about an angle, and and I don't
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Speaker 3: want to get into logistics.
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Speaker 5: Here after the angle, right, but I can't tell no.
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Speaker 4: Like this you want to talk past the mic. No,
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Speaker 4: don't look at me, look at it. See like that,
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Speaker 4: I'm talking past the mic. So so what that'll do?
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Speaker 4: If you tend to pop your ps give kind of
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Speaker 4: a thumping bass sound, this will help alleviate that. That's all.
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Speaker 6: We're getting a little buffering too. I'm sorry, that's the connection.
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Speaker 6: So the buffering for the the video.
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Speaker 2: I don't know if the audio, no.
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Speaker 4: I'm sure we'll be people will let us know. Oh okay,
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Speaker 4: so we get about a minute.
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Speaker 6: By the way regarding that Tacoma too. If you look
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Speaker 6: over by the windmill over and the people can't see this,
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Speaker 6: that's a yellow one over there. Yeah, so you know,
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Speaker 6: and that one's much bigger than the shorter orange one
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Speaker 6: behind us.
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Speaker 5: So, now, is there a difference between Tacoma and tech
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Speaker 5: A Maria.
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Speaker 6: That's a it's got a much smaller leaf, right as
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Speaker 6: far as am I thinking of the right planet, like
18:53
Speaker 6: same flower, but a much smaller leaf.
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Speaker 2: Uh huh. So I don't know if there's a difference.
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Speaker 5: I'm not sure if one is a genus thing.
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Speaker 2: Or if it's a complete Right, let's take a break.
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Speaker 4: We're going to take a break.
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Speaker 3: This is our well the second segment we're finishing up,
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Speaker 3: so do stay with it, look live, but of course
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Speaker 3: guards the Mayor.
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Speaker 7: Welcome back to the Garden America Radio Show with Brian
20:14
Speaker 7: John and Tiger.
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Speaker 3: We're back from the break. Thank you to those tuned
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Speaker 3: Live got to see the in between commercial segment of
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Speaker 3: what we're doing here as we get set up and
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Speaker 3: now we are back on live and Tiger, what the
20:31
Speaker 3: heck is John doing? He's got a big knife out
20:33
Speaker 3: he's got a pod, he's got what is that in
20:34
Speaker 3: front of him? Anyway, I have no idea what's going on.
20:36
Speaker 6: So we have a symbidium orchid, which you know, there's
20:39
Speaker 6: a lot of varieties of orchids. Subidiums play the anopsis
20:44
Speaker 6: and drobiums oncidiums, you know, and subidiums are ones that
20:50
Speaker 6: create kind of like bulbs at the base of the plan.
20:53
Speaker 2: Then they just keep reproducing from the base.
20:55
Speaker 6: And so this is like where we talk about where
20:57
Speaker 6: you get into actually dividing them, because where like a
21:00
Speaker 6: family Ainopsis will actually grow a whole nother plant off
21:05
Speaker 6: a bit from the root system, these ones have bulbs
21:08
Speaker 6: and they do like their roots.
21:10
Speaker 2: To be contained.
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Speaker 4: They like to be crowded.
21:13
Speaker 2: They like to be crowded. I'm holding in my hand. Though.
21:24
Speaker 2: Do they die after they bloom or do they keep going.
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Speaker 5: They're called pseudobulbs, which means false bulb, right yep. And
21:34
Speaker 5: they're used for storage. So once that pseudobulb is bloomed
21:39
Speaker 5: and put out leaves and bloom, then it's just a
21:42
Speaker 5: storage union unit. As they get older, like the ones
21:46
Speaker 5: you have in your hand, they or if you over
21:49
Speaker 5: water and don't take care of the plant, they rot
21:53
Speaker 5: and those are no good. And that's one of the
21:54
Speaker 5: things we want to take out, is we go through
21:56
Speaker 5: and divide the plants. So we'll be taking that out. Obviously,
22:00
Speaker 5: we'll take out all the grass and the weeds that
22:03
Speaker 5: are in there, so we'll see what we come up with.
22:06
Speaker 5: And I brought this this antique Tinese pot to put
22:12
Speaker 5: it in because clay. Yeah, and they're actually orchid pots,
22:16
Speaker 5: and so I think are really cool.
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Speaker 4: I wish you could buy these.
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Speaker 6: And I would say it's a big thing with the
22:21
Speaker 6: orchid pots because it's lots of lots of drainage, lots
22:24
Speaker 6: of ventilation for airflow through the soil mix or root mix.
22:29
Speaker 6: Because again, if orchids were ever just sitting in water,
22:33
Speaker 6: they would rot out and die like this bulb, you know,
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Speaker 6: pseudo bulb would So that's why orchid pots always have holes.
22:39
Speaker 2: In the side.
22:47
Speaker 6: You know, there's no soil to retain the moisture, so
22:49
Speaker 6: it's just humidity based around the root system. The difference
22:54
Speaker 6: between using orchid mix and orchid bark has to do
22:58
Speaker 6: with a little bit of the plants that you're you're planting,
23:02
Speaker 6: so you know, you know, Failianopsis normally are in bark,
23:06
Speaker 6: and cidiums and drobians are tend to be in soil.
23:23
Speaker 6: You know, allow that drain.
23:24
Speaker 4: It and will the bark absorb any of that moisture?
23:26
Speaker 2: Is it'll absorb it.
23:27
Speaker 5: And just.
23:38
Speaker 6: Because before this he was like, oh, I thought you
23:40
Speaker 6: would do this, I'm like, it's not my plant, so
23:42
Speaker 6: you do it. So he's saw he's you know, literally
23:46
Speaker 6: sawing the plant in half. And you can see he's
23:48
Speaker 6: not being super delicate with the root system because he's
23:51
Speaker 6: already identified the like live parts of the plant that
23:55
Speaker 6: he wants to keep. He's already identified, you know, the
24:00
Speaker 6: divided into multiple plants. So he's just cutting it in
24:03
Speaker 6: half right now to get him that the basis of
24:06
Speaker 6: the roots. The only thing you have to be careful
24:09
Speaker 6: with right now when you're doing this is just removing
24:12
Speaker 6: any complete roots.
24:13
Speaker 5: So I thought you're gonna say, cutting your fingers.
24:15
Speaker 6: Cutting your fingers too, especially if you're using a sharp knife.
24:18
Speaker 6: But you just you want to leave some.
24:20
Speaker 5: Route, right And one of the things I'm trying to
24:22
Speaker 5: do is when you divide us in bits, thought, I
24:39
Speaker 5: thought I came across a scorpion.
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Speaker 3: I was going to say, yeah, what what are you
24:42
Speaker 3: finding in there now that you've cut that open?
24:43
Speaker 4: Amazing? What's in there?
24:45
Speaker 5: Anyway, I'm gonna I'm gonna go back to this as
24:48
Speaker 5: Tiger and Brian describe what we're.
25:01
Speaker 2: And what he's doing.
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Speaker 6: It's it's good to kind of note too that you
25:07
Speaker 6: don't need you know, some people will like leave all
25:10
Speaker 6: the roots. So so John's pot that he had this
25:14
Speaker 6: orchid in before was a very tall pot. You know,
25:16
Speaker 6: orchids don't require a very tall pot. And it's funny
25:19
Speaker 6: because the pot he actually brought is very tall as well.
25:23
Speaker 6: A lot of times orchid pots will be shallow because
25:26
Speaker 6: you know, they don't really need the depth. So he
25:28
Speaker 6: doesn't need to leave all the length of the root.
25:30
Speaker 6: When he's transplanting, he can cut some of the bottom
25:34
Speaker 6: part off to fit it in. You do just need
25:36
Speaker 6: to probably leave about, you know, four to five inches
25:39
Speaker 6: of root down below the pseudobulb, just to give it
25:43
Speaker 6: that structure and not shock it as well. And don't
25:46
Speaker 6: be scared. You know, when you do this, the plant
25:49
Speaker 6: will go through some shock. You might even lose a
25:51
Speaker 6: few pseudobulbs after the fact. You know, you you do
25:54
Speaker 6: your transplanting. You know, two weeks later, one of the
25:58
Speaker 6: Suito bulbs will die off, maybe because you didn't realize
26:01
Speaker 6: you cut out some of the root system while doing
26:03
Speaker 6: this work.
26:04
Speaker 4: In other words, you can make a few mistakes and
26:06
Speaker 4: it's not really gonna.
26:07
Speaker 6: No, it's not going to hurt it too much, you know,
26:10
Speaker 6: because and that's why I think also John, you know
26:13
Speaker 6: mentioned you know, leaving multiple ones, because if you leave
26:16
Speaker 6: multiple ones, you're going to have more success, where if
26:19
Speaker 6: you try to get in there and cut out individuals,
26:22
Speaker 6: you're going to probably struggle a little bit more and
26:24
Speaker 6: not be as successful.
26:27
Speaker 2: You know.
26:29
Speaker 6: I think that you know, what John is doing also
26:31
Speaker 6: is a bit difficult because.
26:35
Speaker 2: It's up on a table.
26:37
Speaker 6: A lot of times when you're doing a plant of
26:40
Speaker 6: this size with division, it's easy to do it on
26:42
Speaker 6: the ground and you can take like a shape a
26:44
Speaker 6: spade or shovel and just drive through it with your foot.
26:48
Speaker 2: Which can it's table, Yeah exactly.
26:52
Speaker 6: Yeah, so you know, don't be afraid to you know,
26:55
Speaker 6: at home, you know, put it on the ground, you know,
26:59
Speaker 6: drive a spade or shovel through it with your foot
27:01
Speaker 6: to give you that leverage and ability to do it
27:05
Speaker 6: because you know, doing it on your poddy table, you
27:10
Speaker 6: you might not have the leverage with some of these
27:11
Speaker 6: because they're actually very sturdy root systems too.
27:14
Speaker 2: So you know, you got to work with another thing.
27:19
Speaker 2: Whenever you're dividing the plants, doing it on a.
27:22
Speaker 6: Daylight today where it's a little overcast, a little cool, anytime,
27:28
Speaker 6: anytime you can minimize stress on plants whenever you're working
27:31
Speaker 6: with them is going to benefit and have you be
27:34
Speaker 6: more successful. So, you know, working on a division of
27:39
Speaker 6: a plant and you know, ninety eight degree weather with
27:42
Speaker 6: full sun, you're just going to get that you know,
27:45
Speaker 6: dry hot, you know weather that eventually could affect the
27:51
Speaker 6: way that it's transplant and then especially if you're also
27:53
Speaker 6: then putting it into the debt environment right afterwards, put
28:07
Speaker 6: it into the sun a little bit of.
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Speaker 2: Exactly, so you have to you know, these are.
28:11
Speaker 4: More ideal conditions right now. Oh yeah, you're doing this.
28:14
Speaker 6: Yeah, And it's ideal because it's easier on you. You know,
28:17
Speaker 6: you're working you're not working out in the hot sun
28:19
Speaker 6: and you know, everything like that. It looks like he's
28:22
Speaker 6: got a portion of it all done and look, yeah,
28:26
Speaker 6: I much better and he's left you.
28:27
Speaker 2: Know what I see about four suitables.
28:30
Speaker 6: One brand new one, one mature one and one and
28:33
Speaker 6: it's kind of like, uh, you know.
28:36
Speaker 2: Teenage stages so to speak.
28:39
Speaker 6: So you know a lot of fun, you know, being
28:42
Speaker 6: able to kind of get in there and clean it
28:44
Speaker 6: up and you know, just you know, this is part
28:47
Speaker 6: of gardening too, where you have more like you did
28:50
Speaker 6: just see him like toss the whole other portion of
28:53
Speaker 6: the plant behind it and his breath.
28:55
Speaker 4: This is your problem, He's.
28:57
Speaker 2: Going to leave it there.
28:58
Speaker 6: But but I mean, you know, if this is a
29:01
Speaker 6: plant you really have enjoyed and you you love it,
29:05
Speaker 6: this is also a great opportunity to have something that
29:07
Speaker 6: you share absolutely where now you can give it to
29:10
Speaker 6: a friend or give it as a housewarming gift and
29:12
Speaker 6: it's you know, something that you you have and they have.
29:17
Speaker 6: You know a lot of people will give them to
29:18
Speaker 6: family members and now they share this this plant, you know,
29:22
Speaker 6: wherever they are.
29:23
Speaker 4: So all this in less than ten minutes, by the way.
29:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, very impressing me. Just as on that.
29:28
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, you just like, I gotta do this. I
29:40
Speaker 6: gotta get out there.
29:41
Speaker 4: Once you're out there, you're glad that you're out there
29:43
Speaker 4: doing it.
29:44
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so the or the organ mix it.
29:47
Speaker 5: Should have been done by the way should have been
29:48
Speaker 5: done in mark right after they're done blooming. This is
29:52
Speaker 5: the wrong time.
29:53
Speaker 4: But now because it's the wrong time, How how big
29:56
Speaker 4: a deal is that?
29:57
Speaker 5: The way I look at it is if it it's done,
30:00
Speaker 5: that's the right time for me.
30:02
Speaker 4: Right now, we got about just about less than a minute,
30:06
Speaker 4: Tiger John.
30:07
Speaker 6: You know, one of the things that we've talked about,
30:09
Speaker 6: and I think when we get back from the break,
30:11
Speaker 6: we'll hit on this subject a little bit more because
30:14
Speaker 6: we got to go into it a little bit more
30:15
Speaker 6: in detail. Sure, you know, that's when you know it's
30:27
Speaker 6: stressed out. You know, the fertilizer will just give it
30:29
Speaker 6: a little bit of like help, you know, when it's
30:32
Speaker 6: stressed out, you know, forcing some nutrients into but orchids
30:36
Speaker 6: are a little bit different, like we've talked about, they
30:37
Speaker 6: don't always require as much fertilizer as we might think
30:40
Speaker 6: other plants do.
30:41
Speaker 3: Okay, we're going to take a break for our friends
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Speaker 3: on biz Talk Radio Facebook Live. Do stay with us
30:45
Speaker 3: a lot more with what we're doing today dividing and
30:48
Speaker 3: conquering orchids orchid Mick Bark the whole kit and komboodle,
30:52
Speaker 3: as John says, the whole nine yard. Tiger says it
30:55
Speaker 3: once in a while time.
30:56
Speaker 4: We are back after these messages on BizTalk Radio, stay
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Speaker 4: with him.
31:16
Speaker 7: Welcome back to the Garden America Radio Show with Brian,
31:19
Speaker 7: John and Tiger.
31:21
Speaker 3: We're back from the break. Thank you for joining us
31:23
Speaker 3: here on Garden America. I'm Brian Maine along with Tiger,
31:26
Speaker 3: Pala Fox, John beg Nasco. Uh So, what do you
31:29
Speaker 3: think about ten minutes all in all for John to
31:33
Speaker 3: do what he just did in front of the camera
31:35
Speaker 3: live unless you're listening back to the replay, but on
31:38
Speaker 3: camera live?
31:39
Speaker 4: Is he divided the the orchid? And uh you.
31:42
Speaker 6: See me playing with the bug here? What do you
31:44
Speaker 6: call this bug? What do you call this bug?
31:45
Speaker 4: Is that one of those oh like when we were
31:47
Speaker 4: kids would call them roly poly?
31:48
Speaker 2: Okay, there, you know what do you call this bug?
31:51
Speaker 6: John sal bug or some people will call them a hillbugs,
31:56
Speaker 6: roly poly salbug, bill bugs.
31:58
Speaker 4: And that came out of John's orchids.
32:00
Speaker 2: There's a whole colony of them that came out of
32:03
Speaker 2: John's orchid.
32:06
Speaker 5: Carla wanted to know that it looked like I was
32:09
Speaker 5: putting soil in there. Ye, there are terrestrial orchids and
32:13
Speaker 5: vidiums are one, and they it has to be quick draining, but.
32:17
Speaker 4: They do.
32:23
Speaker 6: Is still very well draining. In this eb stone orchid
32:27
Speaker 6: mix is aged fur bark, so it's got bark in there,
32:30
Speaker 6: the lava rock which is allowing for drainage and everything,
32:34
Speaker 6: and then aged redwood, which is again just it's almost
32:37
Speaker 6: like a a bark with some lava rock, but it's
32:41
Speaker 6: very fine. Where for those of you that are watching
32:44
Speaker 6: on TV, we have a shot where it cuts to
32:48
Speaker 6: the actual package orchid bark, and again orchid bark is
32:51
Speaker 6: just another fine bark that you would put in your
32:54
Speaker 6: pots just to hold them in place.
32:57
Speaker 2: You know.
32:58
Speaker 6: The for the break we were mentioning about, you know,
33:02
Speaker 6: transplanting fertilization, and you know some plants, you know, when
33:06
Speaker 6: you transplant them, it's good to fertilize them a little
33:08
Speaker 6: liquid fertilizer, maybe somekelt meal, maybe it's some fish emulsion,
33:12
Speaker 6: something that's kind of fast acting that will go into
33:14
Speaker 6: the root system just to kind of minimize some of
33:16
Speaker 6: the shock when you're doing it. Now, you know, John,
33:19
Speaker 6: we've talked about this before that there's a lot of
33:22
Speaker 6: products for orchids, fertilizers out there, right, But at the
33:26
Speaker 6: end of the day, you know, all fertilizers just NPK, nitrogen,
33:30
Speaker 6: potash and phosphorus.
33:32
Speaker 2: Phosphorus and potash.
33:35
Speaker 5: I think the point of fact was that you don't
33:38
Speaker 5: need to vary the formula for feeding orchids depending on
33:43
Speaker 5: the timing. Yeah, you know, you don't need uh this
33:47
Speaker 5: encouraged roots, this is to encouraged bloom. They just use
33:51
Speaker 5: the same amount of fertilizer all your front.
33:54
Speaker 6: So yes, which you know means that it's kind of
34:06
Speaker 6: lacking some nutrients, go ahead and fertilize it. But orchids,
34:10
Speaker 6: for the most part, don't require a lot of fertilizers.
34:13
Speaker 6: So if it's a very green, you know, healthy looking plant,
34:17
Speaker 6: I don't think you need to fertilize when transplanting.
34:21
Speaker 5: No, you know, And it takes the plants a little
34:25
Speaker 5: while to adjust to the transplant shock, so fertilizer doesn't
34:30
Speaker 5: always help. In a matter of fact, sometimes it can
34:34
Speaker 5: even hurt. But they do have fertilizers that are made
34:37
Speaker 5: just for transplanting. I think I think it might be
34:41
Speaker 5: easy to ebe Stone to make someone called jump start,
34:46
Speaker 5: uh fertilizer.
34:47
Speaker 2: Uh huh.
34:47
Speaker 3: So, John, let me ask you. You brought up a
34:49
Speaker 3: good point here about transplanting and what the possible detriment
34:52
Speaker 3: could be for fertilizing. Is it because the plant might
34:56
Speaker 3: be in a little weaker state. Yes, Mainly if you're
34:58
Speaker 3: using h right right, right, right, and you're forcing a
35:03
Speaker 3: plant to do something that he's just they've just been transplanted,
35:06
Speaker 3: they're they're in a little weaker condition to be able
35:09
Speaker 3: to take up all that fertilizer.
35:11
Speaker 4: Yeah.
35:11
Speaker 5: And so if it was an organic food, that would
35:14
Speaker 5: be better because you know that's going to be available
35:16
Speaker 5: as a plant. Where chemical fertilizer then you are taking
35:22
Speaker 5: damaging plant.
35:24
Speaker 2: Yeah.
35:24
Speaker 6: So so yeah, I don't think that, you know, when
35:26
Speaker 6: you're transplanting orchids, they need you know, a lot of fertilizer.
35:29
Speaker 2: I don't think they need it.
35:31
Speaker 6: And then the only other thing, like I say, is
35:34
Speaker 6: when you do finish transplanting it, you do want to
35:36
Speaker 6: put it in a protected area for a little bit
35:38
Speaker 6: of time. Even even if the plant was kept in
35:47
Speaker 6: it's a very sturdy, you know, tough plant. When you
35:50
Speaker 6: do transplant it, anytime you can kind of you know,
35:53
Speaker 6: just baby it along. I mean, you know, keep it
35:56
Speaker 6: in a protected area, keep the soil damp, you know,
36:01
Speaker 6: and just until you start to see new growth really
36:04
Speaker 6: developing on the transplanted plant, then you can start moving
36:07
Speaker 6: it into more exposure or a harder area for it
36:11
Speaker 6: to kind of like.
36:12
Speaker 4: Taking care of kids.
36:13
Speaker 7: Yea.
36:13
Speaker 4: Once you see that you can trust them on their
36:16
Speaker 4: own and they're responsible.
36:18
Speaker 2: Then then you can move them out and then leave
36:19
Speaker 2: them alone. Exactly.
36:21
Speaker 5: I apologize for the by the way, that's what it's
36:24
Speaker 5: part of it a little suspicious exactly, No, that's exactly.
36:28
Speaker 2: How did you like using this knife for the first time?
36:31
Speaker 5: I really like it. My son bought it for me
36:35
Speaker 5: maybe five years ago, but it was so nice. Now
36:41
Speaker 5: it's perfect for this job. It really is made by
36:44
Speaker 5: Asturdy called.
36:46
Speaker 4: No is this going to inspire you to do more
36:47
Speaker 4: of this with this knife? I might do different things.
36:51
Speaker 4: I don't blame. Really nice to use. Yeah, and it
36:53
Speaker 4: feels good in your hands the way everything about it,
36:56
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36:58
Speaker 5: I didn't want our oh buddy, as he referred to
37:02
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37:05
Speaker 4: My my high school buddy.
37:06
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37:10
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37:13
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37:16
Speaker 4: Wow, how about that. Hu's pretty nice. Quite a comparison,
37:22
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37:23
Speaker 5: Thanks.
37:25
Speaker 2: Oh no, my son started talking to me.
37:27
Speaker 6: As soon as you answer the question from Carla, can
37:30
Speaker 6: you please hold up the bag of potting mix.
37:32
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think there's a good shot of it.
37:34
Speaker 6: Now it's just the eb Stone orchid potting mix, you know,
37:39
Speaker 6: so again now with the orchid mixes, John, you know,
37:43
Speaker 6: we talked about how seed starting mix tends to be
37:45
Speaker 6: more sterile, potting mix tends to have you know, is
37:49
Speaker 6: not sterile?
37:51
Speaker 2: Is orchid mixed?
37:53
Speaker 6: I mean just being lava, redwood, furbar, some orchid, some
37:58
Speaker 6: orchid bark in there?
37:59
Speaker 2: Is it stare little? Is that as important or No?
38:02
Speaker 5: I don't think it's uh sterilized because the sterile products
38:07
Speaker 5: are heat treated, right, and I don't pathogens in the
38:19
Speaker 5: in the medium.
38:20
Speaker 4: I think it was.
38:21
Speaker 5: Veronica asked earlier, what I plugged the holes up on
38:24
Speaker 5: the bottom. I I didn't plug them up with anything.
38:28
Speaker 4: We want that exposure, right.
38:30
Speaker 5: There was a big hole in the bottom and I
38:32
Speaker 5: used the top of my coffee cuffs.
38:36
Speaker 4: But on the.
38:37
Speaker 5: Side if you if you have holes like that, and
38:40
Speaker 5: I could have done it on here and it would
38:42
Speaker 5: not have hurt the plant. You can take green moss,
38:45
Speaker 5: you know, long fiber stuff in there and you can
38:48
Speaker 5: just put it on side and that allows.
38:52
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40:16
Speaker 3: want to see it twice, maybe a third time. We
40:19
Speaker 3: encouraged that here back on guard in America broadcasting live.
40:22
Speaker 3: By the way, if you're just joining us from Tiger's
40:24
Speaker 3: backyard here in San Diego, California.
40:27
Speaker 2: I want to go ahead.
40:29
Speaker 5: I was just going to mention a longtime friend, Aaron, Yeah,
40:32
Speaker 5: talking about this family of roly polis. Yeah, everywhere, I
40:38
Speaker 5: apologize for that tiger that they give live first.
40:44
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was just reading that too. Yeah, that's interesting,
40:48
Speaker 6: that's crazy. I would have thought they would have been
40:50
Speaker 6: little eggs and then they hatched into the soil.
40:53
Speaker 5: But no, you know what I like watching them is
40:58
Speaker 5: when I collect them, you know, a whole bunch.
41:01
Speaker 2: Of And then also.
41:17
Speaker 6: Tanya had mentioned that the soil mix, this orchid mix,
41:21
Speaker 6: sounds like it would be really good to use for
41:24
Speaker 6: bromeliads as well, and I agree that would be a
41:26
Speaker 6: great mix for bromilions because they like the drain industrial.
41:30
Speaker 5: Yeah, you would not want to use it for epiphyt
41:35
Speaker 5: the lands, right.
41:39
Speaker 6: And then Millie said that she attended a Symbidium demo
41:43
Speaker 6: local grower and they recommended calcium nitrate fertilizer. After dividing,
41:49
Speaker 6: who knows might have been fine without the fertilizer, And
41:52
Speaker 6: that's exactly right, Millie. It could have been fine without
41:54
Speaker 6: the fertilizer. A lot of I will.
41:56
Speaker 5: Say, that's one that that I would not record. But
42:01
Speaker 5: I'm not I'm not an orchid specialist, you know. And
42:04
Speaker 5: if somebody is an orchid grower and they're doing it,
42:07
Speaker 5: I'm not going to tell him that.
42:10
Speaker 4: If it works, do it. But that's going to.
42:12
Speaker 5: Be a salt right, which can dry out roots and
42:17
Speaker 5: nitrates are fast.
42:20
Speaker 4: You're messing with a pH. John, you don't want to
42:23
Speaker 4: mess with pH.
42:24
Speaker 6: But but I will say, Millie, you know, and because
42:27
Speaker 6: I do like to stay messing with you know, has
42:42
Speaker 6: not been you know, in the industry very long, if
42:46
Speaker 6: he was still working in a garden center.
42:48
Speaker 5: Very long for a while, for a while.
42:51
Speaker 2: He has not been in an industry for a while. Yes,
42:53
Speaker 2: not very long.
42:54
Speaker 4: Yet it's fifty years.
42:57
Speaker 6: Not very long, though. It's you're just a baby, you
42:59
Speaker 6: just was. We're all trying to sell things. And one
43:11
Speaker 6: of the hard things with gardening is that, you know,
43:16
Speaker 6: I mean, like what we just said, there's a lot
43:18
Speaker 6: of buying all these things, propagating your own plane, you know.
43:32
Speaker 6: They you know, they encourage people to go to the
43:35
Speaker 6: garden center and purchase something and then use it and
43:38
Speaker 6: and as John mentioned, you know, there is a slight
43:41
Speaker 6: chance that it could increase your your your success or
43:45
Speaker 6: you know, cure your problem. But at the same time,
43:48
Speaker 6: there's a lot of ways that if it just was
43:50
Speaker 6: done naturally, they're going to be just as successful and
43:53
Speaker 6: work out well too. And so you know, I'm not
43:56
Speaker 6: down plane is because I still work from them. From
43:59
Speaker 6: the aspect of you know, I mean, I'm trying to
44:01
Speaker 6: sell you, guys orchid mix. I'm trying to sell you
44:04
Speaker 6: a fertilizer. I'm trying to sell you a bugs break,
44:06
Speaker 6: you know. I mean, if if this was if this
44:09
Speaker 6: was me and I saw pill bugs coming out of
44:12
Speaker 6: my soil, I would sell you on something that would
44:15
Speaker 6: kill the pill bugs in the well.
44:16
Speaker 5: And do you know what I'm gonna do when I
44:18
Speaker 5: get home. I'm gonna sprinkle some Carrol granules in the planet.
44:22
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. So, so I mean it for.
44:25
Speaker 4: You, if you've done something for a while, don't change.
44:28
Speaker 2: Yeah.
44:29
Speaker 6: Yeah, And you know, but you know, sometimes it's not needed.
44:34
Speaker 6: I will say though, with a pill bug thing. I mean,
44:38
Speaker 6: I for those of you that were watching the program,
44:41
Speaker 6: that was a very good sized what was this again,
44:46
Speaker 6: that was a very good sized symbidium.
44:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was okay.
44:50
Speaker 6: And is and pill bugs eat. Wait a minute, though,
44:55
Speaker 6: I want to show another plant that John brought.
44:57
Speaker 2: I'm gonna bring it on care.
44:58
Speaker 5: I'm gonna do that one too.
45:00
Speaker 2: Now.
45:00
Speaker 5: That one is a dendrobium, and it's actually it's a
45:06
Speaker 5: variety of a species, kind of a rare, rare plant.
45:12
Speaker 5: But I again, it looked just like this a vidium.
45:20
Speaker 5: And there we go. Tiger's trying to get even with
45:24
Speaker 5: me and just block me out because of what I'm
45:26
Speaker 5: doing to his house here. All right, what do you get?
45:33
Speaker 5: What are you gonna say, Tiger?
45:36
Speaker 6: Well, I mean that's a very good looking plant from
45:41
Speaker 6: the standpoint of very mature. It's got a lot of
45:44
Speaker 6: growth on it. And you know, people can see the
45:48
Speaker 6: structure of the pot from what it was. And that's
45:50
Speaker 6: exactly by the way, if you're watching this on Facebook Live,
45:53
Speaker 6: it is not in a pot, even though it looks
45:56
Speaker 6: like it's in a pot.
45:58
Speaker 4: It wasn't a ceramic rest soil, you know.
46:01
Speaker 6: But you know, this one I think would be way
46:05
Speaker 6: more difficult to divide because this one here, you're gonna
46:10
Speaker 6: it's it's not the same pseudo bowls as the symbidium.
46:14
Speaker 5: And doesn't have the rot that the symbidium had. Yeah,
46:17
Speaker 5: well it might not come apart as easily.
46:20
Speaker 6: So you're actually when you divide this one, you're actually
46:22
Speaker 6: kind of probably lose parts of it.
46:24
Speaker 4: And I think you're just more gentle, right, Yeah, I
46:27
Speaker 4: think I don't.
46:28
Speaker 6: I mean, I think it's it's kind of at the
46:31
Speaker 6: point where you're just like, you're gonna do what you
46:33
Speaker 6: have to do. There's really not a lot of options
46:35
Speaker 6: besides like cutting it in half and maybe cutting it
46:39
Speaker 6: in half again, and you're gonna lose parts of it.
46:41
Speaker 4: Sacrificial division, that's what we'd like to call it.
46:45
Speaker 5: Yeah, but it's it's such a hearty plant and if
46:50
Speaker 5: it's under ideal. This has been growing in Fallbrook for
46:53
Speaker 5: the last three years out in full sun. It's a
46:57
Speaker 5: park shade plant.
46:58
Speaker 2: Yeah.
46:59
Speaker 5: That looks really good for a little staded here and there. Yeah,
47:02
Speaker 5: and for not being being as root bound as it was.
47:08
Speaker 5: I didn't have to worry about rot because there was
47:11
Speaker 5: never anywhere for water to say, there's no room for rot.
47:14
Speaker 6: Yeah, could you take cuttings off of this plant? Like
47:18
Speaker 6: could this plant be Like? Could I cut off this
47:21
Speaker 6: and root it? Or that doesn't happen.
47:23
Speaker 5: No, No, you want to you want to take part
47:25
Speaker 5: of the root with you, But there's plenty to take.
47:27
Speaker 2: Yeah.
47:28
Speaker 5: And I was telling you I wanted you to keep
47:30
Speaker 5: part of this because it'll naturalize under our climate condition
47:42
Speaker 5: about sunburn at all, and and it'll be much happier,
47:46
Speaker 5: so it'll do better. And when it blooms, it puts
47:49
Speaker 5: out two foot flower spikes that it's beautiful. Wow, just
47:52
Speaker 5: two to three foot just covered with flowers. Do they
47:55
Speaker 5: only bloom once a year and just in the spring,
47:58
Speaker 5: just in the spring?
47:59
Speaker 2: Yeah? Okay. And you know.
48:04
Speaker 6: As this plant, like, would you you say it naturalized?
48:08
Speaker 6: So you you could plant it in the ground.
48:11
Speaker 5: And by naturalized, I don't mean it's going to spread
48:13
Speaker 5: all over you know. Climates probably a better word than naturalize.
48:19
Speaker 6: So this is something I could put in the ground. No,
48:22
Speaker 6: so I want to keep it in a pot.
48:24
Speaker 5: I I the one I had in at my house
48:27
Speaker 5: and pepper tree. I I you've seen those stumps that
48:31
Speaker 5: I have out in my new place. I had a
48:34
Speaker 5: stump something like that and it had a hole in
48:39
Speaker 5: the stump. So I I put this in there, and
48:43
Speaker 5: I put an orchid bark.
48:49
Speaker 4: Okay, So an area like.
48:51
Speaker 6: That, okay, but it's not going to respond well being
48:57
Speaker 6: in soil dative so especially heavy.
49:00
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're going to take a break, guys when we return,
49:05
Speaker 3: a lot more fun here on Garden America. Bryan made
49:08
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49:11
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49:15
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49:23
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50:51
Speaker 3: We hope it was a good break for you. We
50:53
Speaker 3: enjoyed it. The table's been cleared off or cleaned off
50:56
Speaker 3: just a little bit. Tiger's gonna take John's knife because
50:58
Speaker 3: Tiger coveted that night. That knife is it's a great knife.
51:03
Speaker 6: Yeah, and keeps getting attacked by little bugs.
51:08
Speaker 1: You know.
51:08
Speaker 2: The soil is alive.
51:10
Speaker 4: Yes, it's teeming with the.
51:12
Speaker 2: Life of life.
51:15
Speaker 5: Dirt is dead, soil is alive. So this is definitely
51:18
Speaker 5: soil exactly. Feel so bad about that.
51:22
Speaker 4: I feel bad about what we do.
51:25
Speaker 5: We Tanya mentioned, we don't need to talk about this
51:28
Speaker 5: on the air. But the only reason I've got to
51:30
Speaker 5: do it is because I don't have a long term memory.
51:33
Speaker 4: Yep for the beat.
51:35
Speaker 3: So anyway, John, as you were mentioning, we've got the
51:38
Speaker 3: system underway and everything should be good to go. You know,
51:42
Speaker 3: once we once we finish up with the weekend and
51:43
Speaker 3: we get the planning done and the soils in place,
51:46
Speaker 3: then I think you can pick up right where you
51:48
Speaker 3: left off.
51:50
Speaker 2: And just take it for John. John still reading all
51:54
Speaker 2: the comments.
51:56
Speaker 5: All right, well, let's see, Carla wants to know if
52:00
Speaker 5: tarol granules are okay in pots. Yes, they're okay in pots,
52:04
Speaker 5: and she wanted to know if it was okay for roses.
52:09
Speaker 5: And it's interesting that you ask that, Karla, because I
52:15
Speaker 5: mentioned at the beginning of the show that I was
52:17
Speaker 5: transplanting roses. When I transplant a rose, I put soil
52:22
Speaker 5: in the bottom of the pot, and then I sprinkle
52:24
Speaker 5: a layer of tarot granules, and then I put in
52:28
Speaker 5: the the whatever I'm putting into the spot so that
52:34
Speaker 5: eliminates the stal bugs coming from under because I use
52:39
Speaker 5: one gallon container, So the one gallon containers have those
52:42
Speaker 5: little in the side, little cutouts, and stalbugs canes. Those
52:48
Speaker 5: are ideal conditions. And if you have a plant that's
52:51
Speaker 5: been around for a while, like tiger stands, you can
52:53
Speaker 5: pull that plant out of the pot and the whole
52:55
Speaker 5: bottoms the roots have been eaten by sow bugs or earwakes.
53:00
Speaker 6: In with a you know rose, you know, especially like
53:03
Speaker 6: a new rose or like one that you're developing from cuttings,
53:07
Speaker 6: that could they could kill the plant. You know, they
53:09
Speaker 6: could get in there and actually like eat all the
53:12
Speaker 6: roots system and you go in there and like, oh,
53:14
Speaker 6: why did this plant struggle? You pull it up, and
53:16
Speaker 6: you know the roots are It's funny because it's not
53:19
Speaker 6: like a gopher like people think, oh it's like a
53:21
Speaker 6: gopher where it's like you go in there and all
53:22
Speaker 6: the root systems eat in a way and the plant
53:24
Speaker 6: just falls over.
53:24
Speaker 2: No, no, no. When when root eating.
53:29
Speaker 6: Bugs like sow bugs, grubs and the likes of those,
53:34
Speaker 6: the damage is different.
53:36
Speaker 2: It's almost like the roots are still there.
53:49
Speaker 5: It's also plateral damage because chewing on the roots exposes
53:56
Speaker 5: the roots. You know, that's an open wound, so it
53:59
Speaker 5: exposes the roots to root funguses or root fun guy.
54:05
Speaker 5: To be grammatically correct, do you know that why plants
54:13
Speaker 5: or why words that end in us Brian, do you
54:16
Speaker 5: know why? The plural is an eye like cat, cacti, fungus,
54:22
Speaker 5: fun guy. Sometimes it's an a like dad.
54:30
Speaker 2: Why.
54:30
Speaker 5: Sometimes it's because it's Latin. And U asked the masculine
54:36
Speaker 5: ending in Latin. So if it's a masculine word, the
54:41
Speaker 5: plural is an eye. The feminine word, which ends in um.
54:46
Speaker 5: The plural is usually in a No. Oh, and you
54:50
Speaker 5: learned that more than fifty years ago.
54:52
Speaker 2: Yeah, it keeps going today.
54:54
Speaker 4: And ask him about ask him about the first segment
54:57
Speaker 4: of our show.
55:00
Speaker 2: How did we open the show? Exactly?
55:02
Speaker 4: Exactly. That's impressive, that's very impressive. Yeah, stadium.
55:09
Speaker 5: We usually say stadiums. Right, you know, you get away
55:13
Speaker 5: from the Latin. You know another thing now that you.
55:16
Speaker 4: Mean, are you going to bring up moose?
55:17
Speaker 5: No good, No, no, I'm going to bring up commas.
55:20
Speaker 4: Oh, the misuse of commas.
55:22
Speaker 5: Well, because I'm writing a book right, Uh, just finished
55:25
Speaker 5: a book, and I have a question about that book.
55:28
Speaker 5: I wanted to ask to see what our listeners think.
55:31
Speaker 5: But when you use the word, and we were always
55:35
Speaker 5: taught you don't have a comma beforehand.
55:37
Speaker 4: It's changed. It has changed. It has changed. Why and
55:41
Speaker 4: you know what?
55:41
Speaker 3: You know what else that we were taught you could
55:43
Speaker 3: never do is begin a sentence with because and I
55:46
Speaker 3: think they've thrown that out the window as well.
55:50
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's and I could never be begin a sentence
55:53
Speaker 5: with and I see that happening sometimes too.
55:55
Speaker 4: Yeah.
55:56
Speaker 5: I I could never begin a sentence with a conjunction right.
55:59
Speaker 4: Right, conjunction junction right. There was a TV show that
56:03
Speaker 4: was Petticoat junction. No, no, there was all.
56:05
Speaker 3: There was a kids show back in the seventies to
56:07
Speaker 3: teach you otherwords. It was fun to watch, but you
56:09
Speaker 3: were learning something and didn't really know it.
56:11
Speaker 4: Like now, this has nothing to do with our advanced
56:15
Speaker 4: the conjunction junction.
56:16
Speaker 2: Yeah you like you were you were a doobie, wouldn't
56:19
Speaker 2: you a doobie?
56:20
Speaker 4: Yeah? Do be a don't be? Don't be?
56:22
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, way just quick aside from gardening, you know,
56:30
Speaker 5: I'm putting the finishing touches on my book. It's pretty
56:33
Speaker 5: much all been written. But I'm wondering what some of
56:37
Speaker 5: our listeners might think is that in my book, I
56:40
Speaker 5: have a title for each chapter. And I noticed that, uh,
56:46
Speaker 5: more recent books, none of the chapters are titled, you know,
56:51
Speaker 5: especially like thrillers and John Grisham books and stuff like that.
56:55
Speaker 5: So I'm wondering, do our listeners like seeing the title
56:59
Speaker 5: of a chapter.
56:59
Speaker 3: Right as you turn the page and begin a new
57:02
Speaker 3: a new part of the book.
57:04
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I have a I have a title with
57:06
Speaker 5: an epigraph, you know. So there's a little quote which
57:09
Speaker 5: I get from our newsletters right right from doing it
57:13
Speaker 5: for our newsletters, not from our newsletters.
57:15
Speaker 4: So the chapters of books have titles.
57:17
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, And do you appreciate it or do you
57:20
Speaker 5: think that's extraneous and it bothers you?
57:24
Speaker 2: So this was something I kind of think.
57:26
Speaker 6: I I learned a lot about when you were talking
57:28
Speaker 6: about not just the title of the chapter, but you
57:30
Speaker 6: actually had an image at the beginning of each chapter.
57:32
Speaker 6: Two And I think that this is a big difference
57:36
Speaker 6: between male and female readers. I like to have a book,
57:44
Speaker 6: a movie, a story tell me the whole thing. I
57:48
Speaker 6: want to know the ending. I want to know you No, no, no,
57:52
Speaker 6: not before. Oh goodness, that's our pool vacuum scared Brian.
57:57
Speaker 4: Brian was clear in his throat over there.
58:00
Speaker 2: I thought Lloyd Bridges was coming up, but I want
58:05
Speaker 2: to know.
58:09
Speaker 6: The reason why I'm reading a book or watching a
58:11
Speaker 6: movie is because I'm to be entertained. I don't like
58:15
Speaker 6: those books or movies that leave the ending or there
58:19
Speaker 6: to be a question.
58:20
Speaker 4: No, or they say we're going to leave that up
58:22
Speaker 4: to you, yes, what happened?
58:24
Speaker 3: I want to get back to that chapter thing for
58:26
Speaker 3: a second, because I thought about this, John, that can
58:28
Speaker 3: be an enticement to continue reading the book or to
58:31
Speaker 3: go into that chapter. Because if if you give it, well, no,
58:34
Speaker 3: but if you give it a title like you.
58:36
Speaker 5: Know, ooh, this is good the one I wrote yesterday,
58:39
Speaker 5: which was the Congress of buyet hours.
58:44
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, I might want to know that.
58:46
Speaker 2: What is that to me?
58:47
Speaker 3: And so I'm going to continue to read it. If
58:49
Speaker 3: there's nothing to set me up like that, I may
58:51
Speaker 3: put the book down because okay, I'm done with that chapter.
58:54
Speaker 3: Who knows what I'm going to get back to it.
58:55
Speaker 3: But if you give me a title like that, I'm
58:57
Speaker 3: more inclined to say I want to find out more
58:59
Speaker 3: about this.
59:00
Speaker 5: But my mother read a lot, and I think maybe
59:04
Speaker 5: that's where I got my desire for reading from. But
59:07
Speaker 5: she read a lot, and she always read the last
59:10
Speaker 5: four pages of the book before she starts. Why and
59:14
Speaker 5: well that I asked her that, and she said, I'm
59:17
Speaker 5: not going to waste my time reading a whole book
59:19
Speaker 5: if I don't like the way it ends.
59:23
Speaker 4: And to me, that kind of spoils it.
59:25
Speaker 5: But well, then every book she ever read she read
59:28
Speaker 5: that way.
59:29
Speaker 4: We got to take a break here a little bit
59:31
Speaker 4: late here, back after these messages on Bistok radio. Stay
59:34
Speaker 4: with us. This is gardener Meer. Okay, we are back.
59:58
Speaker 3: We have two more segments to go. This one here,
1:00:01
Speaker 3: the one that we're kicking off is one of our
1:00:03
Speaker 3: longer segments. I guess we could we could call these
1:00:05
Speaker 3: instead of calling them segments, They're going to be chapters
1:00:08
Speaker 3: with titles.
1:00:10
Speaker 6: One I will say, though, you know what John was
1:00:13
Speaker 6: describing as far as whether people like to leave it
1:00:16
Speaker 6: up to their imagination or whether they like to be
1:00:18
Speaker 6: told what something is. Now, to bring this back into
1:00:21
Speaker 6: the gardening, one of the things that I noticed has
1:00:26
Speaker 6: changed over the years with gardening industry. People will not
1:00:31
Speaker 6: buy a plant without it either in bloom or a
1:00:36
Speaker 6: photo of what that plant or flower looks like. Meaning
1:00:41
Speaker 6: it used to be that used to go to a
1:00:43
Speaker 6: garden center and if plants are in bloom, they were spent.
1:00:46
Speaker 6: If you were buying plants in bloom, you did not
1:00:49
Speaker 6: buy petunias in bloom.
1:00:51
Speaker 2: You did not buy impatients.
1:00:52
Speaker 4: And it's like adopting a twelve year old kid.
1:00:54
Speaker 6: It is it is, it's already way into its growing phase,
1:00:59
Speaker 6: and you know, you why what is it you?
1:01:02
Speaker 4: You wouldn't.
1:01:02
Speaker 2: Sorry, I just let that slide. That's bad.
1:01:05
Speaker 6: But I would say, like people were like, if I
1:01:09
Speaker 6: need to buy the plant when it's young so I
1:01:11
Speaker 6: can get its full life in my garden. Nowadays, if
1:01:14
Speaker 6: it's not blooming in the garden center, they don't buy it.
1:01:18
Speaker 6: And at the same time, okay, they can understand, well,
1:01:21
Speaker 6: you know they're buying a plant early. You know, like,
1:01:23
Speaker 6: for instance, a tomato, they're not going to wait for
1:01:25
Speaker 6: it to have tomatoes on it before they buy it.
1:01:28
Speaker 6: But they definitely need to see a picture of what
1:01:30
Speaker 6: the tomato will look like, because even if it has
1:01:32
Speaker 6: a description, they still don't do it.
1:01:35
Speaker 2: They still won't buy it.
1:01:36
Speaker 6: It has to have a photo of whatever whatever, pepper, whatever, tomato, whatever, flour.
1:01:43
Speaker 5: Well how many how many places sell vegetables with fruit? Yeah,
1:01:49
Speaker 5: where you'll get a large size pepper plant with peppers
1:01:52
Speaker 5: on it or tomato starting.
1:01:55
Speaker 4: You're talking more like blooming plants, right, flowers.
1:01:58
Speaker 2: Well, no, what I'm talking about the tomatoes.
1:01:59
Speaker 6: Like like we we will sell a five gallon tomato
1:02:01
Speaker 6: at the nursery sometimes and it has fruit on it
1:02:03
Speaker 6: and people will buy it, and you know, I mean,
1:02:06
Speaker 6: you know, it used to.
1:02:07
Speaker 5: Be really popular and I haven't seen them forever, so
1:02:10
Speaker 5: I don't know if they still sell them, but they
1:02:14
Speaker 5: always used to come out early with pattio tomatoes.
1:02:17
Speaker 4: Yeah, you guys still sellos.
1:02:19
Speaker 2: We don't sell them.
1:02:22
Speaker 5: It was a short determinant variety that you could sell
1:02:28
Speaker 5: in a one gallon pot and it would have fruit
1:02:30
Speaker 5: on it. Okay, but the fruit tasted terrible.
1:02:34
Speaker 2: Yeah, because yeah, they started.
1:02:38
Speaker 6: It's a really cool concept, but at the end of
1:02:41
Speaker 6: the day, it wasn't exactly what you wanted, you know,
1:02:43
Speaker 6: just the fact that you had tomatoes wasn't wasn't always
1:02:46
Speaker 6: worth worth the poor tasting fruit.
1:02:49
Speaker 4: So are people more visual now?
1:02:51
Speaker 6: I mean, well, that's I think it really is. And
1:02:53
Speaker 6: it's sad because there's a lot of things out.
1:02:55
Speaker 5: Remember, we would we would refuse the shipment of betting plants.
1:03:09
Speaker 6: Who want to garden. It's better to go in early,
1:03:13
Speaker 6: buy the plants early, plant them. You're going to have
1:03:16
Speaker 6: them be more successful. They're going to flower more, for instance.
1:03:20
Speaker 4: Because if you were responsible for the plant as well.
1:03:23
Speaker 6: Well, but you know, we're just talking about dividing the
1:03:25
Speaker 6: plants right now. You'd rather plant a plant in your
1:03:30
Speaker 6: garden and have it grow into bloom because you're going
1:03:34
Speaker 6: to be more successful that way. Where if you plant
1:03:37
Speaker 6: a plant that's already blooming in your garden, like it's
1:03:39
Speaker 6: in full bloom, you plant that in your garden, well,
1:03:43
Speaker 6: two or three weeks later, sometimes days later, it will
1:03:46
Speaker 6: drop all those blooms because you transplanted it.
1:03:49
Speaker 2: And you know it's.
1:03:51
Speaker 5: Younger plants usually transplant easy. Yes, I remember when.
1:03:55
Speaker 2: I want to bring that back. I want to bring
1:03:57
Speaker 2: back early gardening.
1:03:59
Speaker 5: Well years ago when I took my daughter as an
1:04:03
Speaker 5: exchange student to New Zealand, she got a job in
1:04:06
Speaker 5: a nursery.
1:04:09
Speaker 4: Part time.
1:04:10
Speaker 5: I think the second time she went back, but she
1:04:13
Speaker 5: said that if they're on their betting plant table, when
1:04:16
Speaker 5: the plants started to bloom, they threw them out. That
1:04:19
Speaker 5: people would, matter of fact said sometimes they bought them
1:04:22
Speaker 5: without leaves, just cott of leeds where the seed had
1:04:26
Speaker 5: just sprouted. And that's the way people bought betting plants.
1:04:30
Speaker 6: Yeah, that might be a little bit tough because you
1:04:32
Speaker 6: take that home and transplanted in him and there's a
1:04:34
Speaker 6: good chance that somebody's going to kill it. But definitely
1:04:38
Speaker 6: exchange over the years.
1:04:39
Speaker 4: So it used to be.
1:04:43
Speaker 5: What were they called mud flats, Yes, mud flats. They
1:04:46
Speaker 5: don't sell those anymore, I think.
1:04:48
Speaker 6: I think City Farmers Nursery still does, yes, because they
1:04:51
Speaker 6: do a lot of their own like vegetable growing seas.
1:04:53
Speaker 5: And they were trays of plants, betting plants or vegetables
1:04:58
Speaker 5: that had no individual trace within. Yeah, and you would
1:05:03
Speaker 5: you would go to the garden center and they would
1:05:05
Speaker 5: cut out You'd say, I want six tomatoes. They would
1:05:08
Speaker 5: pull up this flat of tomatoes. And back then they
1:05:10
Speaker 5: were all wood flats and they would cut out six
1:05:13
Speaker 5: plants and.
1:05:14
Speaker 2: Then and give them to you.
1:05:15
Speaker 6: And how would they give them to you in any
1:05:18
Speaker 6: any in any kind of bag or.
1:05:21
Speaker 5: What would they think? What they would do would be
1:05:23
Speaker 5: to wrap them in newspapers, I recall. Yeah, now they
1:05:26
Speaker 5: don't have newspaper.
1:05:28
Speaker 4: Yeah, back then, there.
1:05:29
Speaker 5: Was no When Brian and I grew up. There was
1:05:31
Speaker 5: no plastic.
1:05:32
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.
1:05:33
Speaker 5: Right, toys were all made out of bacel light bake
1:05:37
Speaker 5: what what is bagels?
1:05:39
Speaker 4: They were made out of bagels. I just shake my
1:05:41
Speaker 4: head and agree. Bacon light was.
1:05:43
Speaker 2: The first class, okay. And it was a brittle, very
1:05:47
Speaker 2: brittle break easy, gotcha now now, So you know.
1:05:55
Speaker 6: Wideners, Wideners. I think until she sold business Evelyn, right, Evelyn,
1:06:02
Speaker 6: they would have the dig your own Bogonia.
1:06:06
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, they would have a lot of dig your right.
1:06:08
Speaker 2: Dig your own bogonia. Right. You used to go over there.
1:06:11
Speaker 6: They would have a row of bogonias in a in
1:06:14
Speaker 6: the ground, in a in a planter, and you would
1:06:17
Speaker 6: just go in there and dig out your own ones,
1:06:19
Speaker 6: and then you would buy individual plants.
1:06:22
Speaker 5: That was my first wake up call to gardening Delifornia.
1:06:26
Speaker 2: Oh really, Yeah.
1:06:27
Speaker 5: I moved out here from Michigan and it was a
1:06:33
Speaker 5: first of July nineteen seventy seven, nineteen seventy seven, right,
1:06:38
Speaker 5: and I read that they were having a dig your
1:06:41
Speaker 5: own Bogonia sale at Widner and so my wife and
1:06:45
Speaker 5: I drove out there. We were living in renting a
1:06:47
Speaker 5: house in San Marcos at the time. We went to
1:06:50
Speaker 5: Widener's and spectacular Bogonia's right disgonias, Yeah, camellion flowering pagonia.
1:07:01
Speaker 5: So we dug them out, brought him to a house
1:07:04
Speaker 5: in San Marcos, planted them, and over the Fourth of
1:07:07
Speaker 5: July weekend there was the Santa Ana and everyone burned.
1:07:10
Speaker 2: To a Chris oh man.
1:07:12
Speaker 5: It's like, you know, I thought you could grow anything
1:07:14
Speaker 5: in California.
1:07:15
Speaker 6: An any time degrees. Yeah, I think I might try
1:07:19
Speaker 6: to bring that back. I'm gonna try to bring back
1:07:22
Speaker 6: I'm gonna I'm gonna model my nursery over an old
1:07:25
Speaker 6: school nursery in the years to come, where we're not
1:07:29
Speaker 6: going to have blooming plants, We're not going to have,
1:07:32
Speaker 6: you know, sell packs of plants.
1:07:35
Speaker 5: Well, what you're talking about, so opening up a seed store.
1:07:37
Speaker 2: Exactly exactly what I'm gonna do. It's way easier than
1:07:41
Speaker 2: water to water, you do anything.
1:07:43
Speaker 4: Just put up a few before and after pictures, That's what.
1:07:45
Speaker 6: I'm saying that just yet, you know it's all gonna
1:07:48
Speaker 6: be based on photography.
1:07:49
Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, I like the general consensus. And Lilah, thanks
1:07:53
Speaker 5: for your comment. Everybody says that the titles entice you
1:07:57
Speaker 5: to keep on reading.
1:07:57
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. It's a little it's a little you speaking
1:08:01
Speaker 3: of that. Of like endings that are kind of left
1:08:03
Speaker 3: leave you hanging. As Dan and I watch a lot
1:08:05
Speaker 3: more reruns from the sixties and seventies running into that
1:08:08
Speaker 3: a little bit, were you okay, it's getting toward the end,
1:08:11
Speaker 3: and then okay, they caught the criminal. But there's a
1:08:13
Speaker 3: lot of a lot of things that that are left
1:08:15
Speaker 3: un like what happened to the wife, what happened to
1:08:17
Speaker 3: the guy that was shot, what happened to so many
1:08:19
Speaker 3: things that happened that they don't buy that nice little
1:08:22
Speaker 3: ribbon on in the end and give you the finished package.
1:08:24
Speaker 3: I need that, and of course the excuse, right, well,
1:08:27
Speaker 3: we leave that up to the listener of the viewer
1:08:28
Speaker 3: to decide what happened.
1:08:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, we want you to decide.
1:08:31
Speaker 4: Leave it up to me.
1:08:32
Speaker 2: Are they dead or are they not? Tell me? I
1:08:34
Speaker 2: paid fifteen dollars to watch. Tell me I wanted the ending.
1:08:38
Speaker 4: And there's even alternate endings now, you know on in
1:08:41
Speaker 4: movies and stuff.
1:08:42
Speaker 6: Well, that is the funny thing, right, People don't realize
1:08:44
Speaker 6: is that a movie will go through a series of
1:08:48
Speaker 6: views and what the original movie thought to be could
1:08:52
Speaker 6: be different than what's actually sent to us because when
1:08:55
Speaker 6: people watched it before us and told them, and we
1:08:58
Speaker 6: used to.
1:08:58
Speaker 4: Buy the DVDs edited exactly.
1:09:03
Speaker 3: Hey, coming up out of the deep, I wonder people
1:09:13
Speaker 3: can hear it on that tiger didn't tell us you
1:09:17
Speaker 3: had a pet kraken.
1:09:20
Speaker 5: He's got the cave for the crack, and then everything.
1:09:23
Speaker 4: It went silent. It's underwater. But anyway, going back to
1:09:29
Speaker 4: you were going to offend somebody, I'm sorry, no, no.
1:09:31
Speaker 5: I wanted to to. We talked about it, and I
1:09:33
Speaker 5: think I agree with everybody. So I'm going to keep
1:09:35
Speaker 5: the time.
1:09:36
Speaker 4: With the time chapters. Yeah, But the.
1:09:38
Speaker 5: One thing I'm still up in the air about is
1:09:40
Speaker 5: every chapter I also start with a line drawing. And
1:09:44
Speaker 5: I've probably interviewed maybe fifty sixty people on this, so
1:09:50
Speaker 5: I kind of wonder what our listeners say. But on
1:09:53
Speaker 5: the line drawings, I'm find out finding out that for
1:09:56
Speaker 5: the most part, men like them when and don't, and
1:10:02
Speaker 5: younger people like them older people in the Some of
1:10:07
Speaker 5: the comments I get is I'd like to picture the
1:10:11
Speaker 5: scene or what the characters look like in my own mind,
1:10:15
Speaker 5: and a line dryness to crack.
1:10:20
Speaker 4: We're gonna we're gonna take a break, all right, we
1:10:22
Speaker 4: have have one more chapter.
1:10:24
Speaker 5: We'll tak them.
1:11:15
Speaker 2: Okay, we have back to our final.
1:11:17
Speaker 4: Segment or chapter. As we have been discussing whether chapters
1:11:20
Speaker 4: and books that have titled and John was talking about
1:11:23
Speaker 4: line drawings to kind of give you a toad right
1:11:26
Speaker 4: absolutely the epilogue a Queen Martin production, think fugitive back
1:11:30
Speaker 4: in the day.
1:11:30
Speaker 5: I think I asked you guys before, and you said
1:11:32
Speaker 5: you like line drawings.
1:11:33
Speaker 3: I like dry, I don't mind. I like, but it's
1:11:37
Speaker 3: like radio right, theater the mind. How many people did
1:11:39
Speaker 3: you grow up listening to a jock on the air,
1:11:42
Speaker 3: and the first time you saw me, you went, WHOA,
1:11:44
Speaker 3: that does not look like anything I thought you would. Well,
1:11:47
Speaker 3: that's yeah, look like you sound different than you look.
1:11:50
Speaker 5: And younger people tell me, no, I like the drawings
1:11:53
Speaker 5: because it gives me an idea of what they look like. Yeah,
1:11:56
Speaker 5: so I don't know if it's an age thing or.
1:11:59
Speaker 3: You know what everyone's dif front, just go with your gut,
1:12:02
Speaker 3: do what you want to do. Somebody told me you
1:12:04
Speaker 3: want to please everybody?
1:12:05
Speaker 4: Do you be you?
1:12:06
Speaker 2: John?
1:12:08
Speaker 4: You do you?
1:12:09
Speaker 2: You do? You?
1:12:10
Speaker 4: What to take a line from Ricky Nelson's garden party, right, yeah.
1:12:14
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking. I don't
1:12:17
Speaker 6: know what you're talking about. Go ahead, John, tell them
1:12:20
Speaker 6: what this. You know you can't please if you know,
1:12:22
Speaker 6: you can't please everyone, so please yourself. To paraphrase, it's true.
1:12:28
Speaker 5: I think it's you can't please everyone, so you got
1:12:31
Speaker 5: to you got.
1:12:31
Speaker 4: To please yourself. Yeah.
1:12:35
Speaker 6: Do you think John, that we've had a very mild
1:12:39
Speaker 6: summer here in southern California.
1:12:41
Speaker 4: Until the last month you didn't know.
1:12:43
Speaker 2: But even then, I mean, what do you think August
1:12:45
Speaker 2: was hot? Okay?
1:12:47
Speaker 5: We had some in Fallbrook. Okay, you had some hundred
1:12:50
Speaker 5: degree days near hundred, maybe nine hundred, something like that,
1:13:00
Speaker 5: but so far compared to other years, that would be say,
1:13:02
Speaker 5: generally mild.
1:13:03
Speaker 3: Yeah, generally, I agree. A few days slipped in there,
1:13:06
Speaker 3: but generally. Now look at this morning here, it's already
1:13:10
Speaker 3: closing in on what nine thirty our time Pacific time.
1:13:13
Speaker 3: Still a bit chilly for the most part, not bad,
1:13:15
Speaker 3: and you can wear shorts leeds as Tiger is.
1:13:17
Speaker 2: Yeah.
1:13:17
Speaker 5: You know, back at the beginning of the broadcast, when
1:13:20
Speaker 5: we were discussing how there was the I think I
1:13:24
Speaker 5: mentioned there was a ten percent chance of rain? Now, John, Yeah, Tanya.
1:13:31
Speaker 5: Tanya said she was told that when you look on
1:13:34
Speaker 5: your phone and you see ten percent, that doesn't mean
1:13:40
Speaker 5: a ten percent chance of rain, but it means that
1:13:43
Speaker 5: the area you're in, ten percent of that area.
1:13:46
Speaker 2: Will get Yeah, that's what I've heard too.
1:13:49
Speaker 4: Really, here's the problem. You don't know which ten percent
1:13:51
Speaker 4: they're referring to.
1:13:53
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's the thing, right, Like, for instance, when they.
1:13:55
Speaker 6: Get they say San Diego is going to get ten
1:13:57
Speaker 6: percent chance of rain? Would are they talking san Diego County?
1:14:01
Speaker 6: Are they talking about the city of San Diego?
1:14:03
Speaker 2: You know that kind of thing.
1:14:05
Speaker 5: Yeah, to me, that sounds like you're hedging your best.
1:14:09
Speaker 5: You know, why even.
1:14:10
Speaker 2: Put a percentage?
1:14:12
Speaker 4: Yeah?
1:14:13
Speaker 6: I think I think because you know, I mean, it's
1:14:16
Speaker 6: all a guess. You know, it's all a guess.
1:14:18
Speaker 4: Right now, chance that it won't rain.
1:14:21
Speaker 2: Yeah.
1:14:22
Speaker 6: Have you ever have you ever seen have you ever
1:14:25
Speaker 6: seen when they show the hurricane model on the screen
1:14:29
Speaker 6: where they say, okay, we ran it through all these
1:14:32
Speaker 6: hurricanes models.
1:14:33
Speaker 4: Are these women these models?
1:14:35
Speaker 6: No, you know, but you know they say that we
1:14:38
Speaker 6: ran we ran this hurricane through all these models you show.
1:14:48
Speaker 6: I don't know, maybe you know thirty lines on the
1:14:51
Speaker 6: screen of where this hurricane is going to go, and
1:14:53
Speaker 6: you've got a path that it's very likely to go,
1:14:56
Speaker 6: but then you always see this little little outlier, this
1:14:59
Speaker 6: little line just straggling off there or here, and you're like, well,
1:15:03
Speaker 6: but what about that? What about that line over there
1:15:05
Speaker 6: that's going straight over.
1:15:08
Speaker 2: Whatever? You know, And they're like, well, there's a chance.
1:15:11
Speaker 5: To actually have some hurricanes building right now.
1:15:15
Speaker 6: We do.
1:15:16
Speaker 2: They were just commenting on the what because we're getting.
1:15:18
Speaker 4: Into the season seasons, hurricane season.
1:15:21
Speaker 6: Remember remember when we had all those uh you know,
1:15:23
Speaker 6: listeners and the growers in Florida that got hit, you know, Tatiana.
1:15:28
Speaker 2: Yeah, hit real bad and her nursery got there in Florida.
1:15:31
Speaker 4: Any new names for these hurricanes now, you know, creative names, creative?
1:15:36
Speaker 2: I think they just recycle them, right, I guess they
1:15:39
Speaker 2: have to.
1:15:41
Speaker 5: Do.
1:15:41
Speaker 3: You know, do you know up until what John how
1:15:43
Speaker 3: many years ago, hurricanes always had female names, right, and
1:15:46
Speaker 3: then they then they changed it. So those are hmmocanes
1:15:49
Speaker 3: right exactly? Yeah, they were called hurricanes.
1:15:53
Speaker 4: Yeah.
1:15:53
Speaker 6: Now unless you're in in Asia, then they're called typhoons.
1:15:59
Speaker 4: Typhoon in CycL well cycle Okay, cyclone is what Wizard
1:16:02
Speaker 4: of Oz tornado tornado, But you're right, tornadoes there.
1:16:07
Speaker 6: Typhoons, yeah, hurricanes out of the Atlantic, right of the
1:16:11
Speaker 6: not at the Atlantic, Pacific Pacific.
1:16:13
Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, boy, typhoon just sounds more dangerous. Tight food.
1:16:18
Speaker 4: It sounds rich to me, doesn't typhoon. It's got a
1:16:24
Speaker 4: lot of money. He's a big typo Yeah, the typhoons
1:16:28
Speaker 4: that yeah.
1:16:36
Speaker 2: Who it's it's either the people who don't like drawings
1:16:39
Speaker 2: are not are not being vocal.
1:16:41
Speaker 5: So you'll probably go with what the publisher says, we'll
1:16:45
Speaker 5: publish your book if you get rid of these drawings.
1:16:47
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, done. That's funny.
1:16:51
Speaker 3: The only reason they say that is because if they
1:16:54
Speaker 3: think that people don't like it, they're not going to
1:16:55
Speaker 3: buy the book and they're going to lose money. It's
1:16:57
Speaker 3: not that they're laught of your best interest, right right.
1:17:00
Speaker 3: There's a lot of research that goes.
1:17:02
Speaker 4: You got a couple of a couple of minutes just
1:17:03
Speaker 4: to keep you on track, and what are we going
1:17:06
Speaker 4: to do next week? We're gonna move up halfway back,
1:17:10
Speaker 4: halfway back.
1:17:11
Speaker 5: We were moving down there.
1:17:14
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we gotta I gotta figure some stuff out.
1:17:17
Speaker 2: For sure this week, Right.
1:17:19
Speaker 5: You've got to see if everything meshes.
1:17:21
Speaker 2: Exactly, so basic mesh is meshing.
1:17:23
Speaker 4: Basically these are we to call them boosters. Yeah, exactly,
1:17:25
Speaker 4: exactly exactly what it is.
1:17:26
Speaker 6: It's a mesh system that you have a base and
1:17:29
Speaker 6: then you kind of and carry it.
1:17:31
Speaker 4: Like it's like it's like cell towers.
1:17:32
Speaker 6: Yeah, but you the farther you get you in, the
1:17:36
Speaker 6: more risk you run of having it be a weaker.
1:17:39
Speaker 3: So we're probably right on the on the precipice of
1:17:41
Speaker 3: that which you refer to.
1:17:43
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
1:17:44
Speaker 4: John wanted me to use the word precipice today. So yeah,
1:17:46
Speaker 4: that was the that was way challenge were to the
1:17:48
Speaker 4: end of the show.
1:17:49
Speaker 3: The challenge we have to wrap things up here got
1:17:51
Speaker 3: about a minute togo, so hey, other than an unexpected halftime, uh,
1:17:56
Speaker 3: just today Yeah, send me.
1:17:57
Speaker 5: Your pictures by the way, you know, everybody said they
1:18:00
Speaker 5: appreciated seeing the ones we put in.
1:18:02
Speaker 3: This the humming bred up in the tree, Yeah, lady
1:18:05
Speaker 3: X and then yours John, Right, But.
1:18:07
Speaker 5: The reason that we did that is because I had
1:18:09
Speaker 5: no pictures last week for the first time in fifteen years.
1:18:12
Speaker 3: John at Gardinamerica dot com. Send your pictures please. Hey,
1:18:16
Speaker 3: that's going to do it. Thank you so much, Tiger,
1:18:17
Speaker 3: thank you again for being a great host in your backyard.
1:18:20
Speaker 3: That we'll do it again next week.
1:18:21
Speaker 4: So until then, have a great rest of your weekend,
1:18:24
Speaker 4: enjoy your week, and uh, let's hope that the floods
1:18:27
Speaker 4: and the water doesn't rise too high and we all
1:18:29
Speaker 4: stay dry. Take care.
1:18:31
Speaker 3: This has been Garden America. I'm Brian Maine, John bagnescar Tiger,
1:18:34
Speaker 3: Pella Fox. We are back again next week right here
1:18:37
Speaker 3: Tiger's backyard on Garden America.
1:18:38
Speaker 4: Take care,