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S48 Mergy Award Winners + Draft Recap · Making The Merge - Survivor Podcast

• 0:01
  Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, and a welcome.
• 0:04
  Speaker 2: It's me, the guy that didn't get the job at
• 0:07
  Speaker 2: the Tony Awards. Here they'll welcome you to the second
• 0:09
  Speaker 2: annual Mergies. What is it? Who cares? Here's Chase, It's me.
• 0:17
  Speaker 2: It's me. It's that C ch A S C.
• 0:20
  Speaker 1: And I'm exciting to be here with the mergees.
• 0:23
  Speaker 2: Dang, did you just.
• 0:24
  Speaker 1: Come up with her right now? Yeah? Dude, I was
• 0:26
  Speaker 1: off the top of my head.
• 0:27
  Speaker 3: Maybe you should have been on the Tony's You could
• 0:29
  Speaker 3: have done the Hamilton thing would have been great.
• 0:32
  Speaker 1: I'm not throwing away my shot mine the doorgy.
• 0:36
  Speaker 2: Oh there it is.
• 0:38
  Speaker 1: Oh, we're off to a good start.
• 0:40
  Speaker 3: We're gonna put out a full Hamilton parody album.
• 0:44
  Speaker 2: That's all survivors.
• 0:48
  Speaker 1: What would it be nothing?
• 0:49
  Speaker 2: Being ten years late to the fad that is now.
• 0:54
  Speaker 2: Hamilton is bigger than a fad. What am I talking?
• 0:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, Hamilton's forever, Hamilton's fro. Hamilton was big and
• 0:59
  Speaker 1: said seventeen seventy six, it was big in twenty and fifteen,
• 1:05
  Speaker 1: and it's big now.
• 1:06
  Speaker 3: Can you imagine like having a disagreement with somebody and
• 1:10
  Speaker 3: being like, I can think of only one way to
• 1:13
  Speaker 3: handle this.
• 1:16
  Speaker 2: And it's with a duel.
• 1:19
  Speaker 1: I thought you were about to be like, imagine that
• 1:20
  Speaker 1: you don't like a guy, and then like two hundred
• 1:24
  Speaker 1: years later, someone makes a musical about it and it's
• 1:27
  Speaker 1: like a smash success that revitalizes the medium of theater.
• 1:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, hey man, I can only agree with one
• 1:35
  Speaker 3: son and then killing them too.
• 1:38
  Speaker 1: Well, I don't have to imagine that.
• 1:40
  Speaker 2: Oh whoa, whoa you good bro.
• 1:45
  Speaker 1: Anyway, Welcome to the Mergees, guys. This is actually the
• 1:49
  Speaker 1: draft recap episode. We're gonna be recapping the draft from
• 1:54
  Speaker 1: season forty eight, where you know, someone I'm not gonna
• 1:58
  Speaker 1: say who famously won the draft this season is their
• 2:01
  Speaker 1: first time winning. It was someone else's second time. We
• 2:04
  Speaker 1: don't have to get into that. But before we get
• 2:07
  Speaker 1: into the draft and we start recapping all of the
• 2:09
  Speaker 1: dumb or great decisions that we made two weeks into
• 2:13
  Speaker 1: the season forty eight, we gotta go over who won
• 2:16
  Speaker 1: the Mergi Awards. Wow, let's just go through the first award,
• 2:22
  Speaker 1: the Gone too Soon Award, which survivor forty eight player
• 2:26
  Speaker 1: didn't make the Merge and we thought was gone too soon.
• 2:29
  Speaker 1: We had eight hundred and seventy four votes, and it's like, ya.
• 2:35
  Speaker 3: Eight times as much as last year, right, like last year,
• 2:38
  Speaker 3: last year it only got like, oh.
• 2:42
  Speaker 2: Mike was great.
• 2:43
  Speaker 1: If you remember last week when I was like, let's
• 2:46
  Speaker 1: try to get three hundred footes, look at us, look
• 2:50
  Speaker 1: at us. And it's all because brands here.
• 2:53
  Speaker 2: Oh well thanks.
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  Speaker 1: It was all because of you, man.
• 2:55
  Speaker 3: It's all because people thought that, like, if brands come
• 2:58
  Speaker 3: to us about the awards, maybe it's okay that I
• 3:00
  Speaker 3: am too, and they vote.
• 3:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no one else was confused. Just you. Oh okay,
• 3:07
  Speaker 1: guys with a landslide win.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 3:12
  Speaker 1: The Gone Too Soon Award goes to Thomas.
• 3:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you remember who you brought?
• 3:21
  Speaker 1: Who I nominated? I believe I nominated Thomas. Dang it? Yeah,
• 3:27
  Speaker 1: do you not remember who you nominated?
• 3:29
  Speaker 4: No?
• 3:29
  Speaker 1: Actually I think I nominated justin pizza.
• 3:31
  Speaker 3: I nominated Kevin. If my notes are correct, apparently I
• 3:35
  Speaker 3: voted for Thomas.
• 3:36
  Speaker 1: What the heck I thought PD voter or nominated Kevin.
• 3:40
  Speaker 1: Maybe maybe you nominated Thomas?
• 3:43
  Speaker 2: Okay, maybe what have I wrote down Kevin?
• 3:45
  Speaker 3: And then Thomas was still around and I threw him
• 3:48
  Speaker 3: in there nice and I have a great memory.
• 3:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah I don't have a great memory as well, which
• 3:54
  Speaker 1: is why I usually PD is like kind of needing
• 3:56
  Speaker 1: to least. I don't know. He never gives a reason
• 4:00
  Speaker 1: when he can't make it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's fine, but none of us want.
• 4:04
  Speaker 1: To argue about it.
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  Speaker 2: He does enough work to make it.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, whatever, ja and what is he doing
• 4:10
  Speaker 3: just watching a Stephen Curtis Chapman video over?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Rose, Jonathan, Man, you announced the next award.
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  Speaker 2: Dude, Okay, okay, I can do this.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, the Big Mistake Award the nominees if you remember
• 4:27
  Speaker 3: and start giving Eve her idol. We had Chrissy talking
• 4:31
  Speaker 3: at Tribal. We had Cedric keeping say over Justin, which
• 4:37
  Speaker 3: was a longer version of what I wanted, which was
• 4:40
  Speaker 3: just Cedric and Camilla telling Kyle that she would not
• 4:46
  Speaker 3: take him to the final three.
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  Speaker 2: The winner with thirteen hundred.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, dude, Wow.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. I'm just seeing this for the first time,
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  Speaker 3: Cedric keeping say over Justin?
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  Speaker 1: What won? I think you are?
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  Speaker 2: Man?
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  Speaker 1: It shows just how much you had your pulse on
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  Speaker 1: the season.
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  Speaker 2: Man.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I'm speaking to believe that people, that's
• 5:15
  Speaker 3: people voting for me.
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  Speaker 2: Just bringing Cedric. It's like, yeah, we got what brand
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  Speaker 2: wanted here. What how about that for the vote?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was it was a hefty, hefty win. Dude
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  Speaker 1: in second place.
• 5:33
  Speaker 3: Because Camilla only got twenty Camilla telling Kylo only got
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  Speaker 3: twenty percent.
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  Speaker 2: I kind of in my mind that's a bigger deal.
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  Speaker 1: But I agree, which is why I nominated it. But
• 5:42
  Speaker 1: actually the second place was Star giving Eva her idol,
• 5:45
  Speaker 1: which also makes sense. That was a crazy move. In hindsight,
• 5:48
  Speaker 1: it wasn't crazy.
• 5:49
  Speaker 2: But.
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  Speaker 1: Man, the Big Mistake Award, that was awesome. The next award,
• 5:54
  Speaker 1: the Baby come Back Award. These are the you can
• 5:59
  Speaker 1: blame it on, Jeff. This is who we would want
• 6:05
  Speaker 1: to see play Survivor again. And the people that are
• 6:10
  Speaker 1: actually coming back for season fifty.
• 6:12
  Speaker 3: You're not out of nominally them, the three of them,
• 6:15
  Speaker 3: The three of them.
• 6:19
  Speaker 2: Were fine.
• 6:21
  Speaker 1: The nominees were Star, Thomas, Cedric and Mary and the
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  Speaker 1: winner in a poll that had six hundred and forty
• 6:33
  Speaker 1: eight votes, Thomas winning another award.
• 6:39
  Speaker 2: Big year for Thomas.
• 6:41
  Speaker 1: You know what's insane And this is what me and
• 6:43
  Speaker 1: p D were talking about after we did the nomination
• 6:45
  Speaker 1: show last week. Mitch was only nominated for one award,
• 6:50
  Speaker 1: and it was the quote award, and then you got
• 6:54
  Speaker 1: someone like Thomas who is.
• 6:58
  Speaker 3: Like all over our award and cleaning house shows you,
• 7:03
  Speaker 3: shows you how as long as you're a big character,
• 7:06
  Speaker 3: it doesn't matter when you go home. I gotta be honest,
• 7:08
  Speaker 3: I'm pretty surprised that we're through three awards.
• 7:12
  Speaker 2: And Mary hasn't won one yet.
• 7:14
  Speaker 1: Dude, I thought Mary was gonna landslide all of them
• 7:17
  Speaker 1: that she was nominated for, because Mary, in my mind,
• 7:19
  Speaker 1: is the biggest fan favorite of the season.
• 7:21
  Speaker 3: Now let's talk about Cedric. Only three percent of the
• 7:24
  Speaker 3: vote for this.
• 7:27
  Speaker 1: So what is three percent of six and forty eight.
• 7:29
  Speaker 3: I'm not good at math, but it's like two Cedric
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  Speaker 3: and his his kids or something.
• 7:36
  Speaker 1: Hold on, I'm gonna actually do the bathroom.
• 7:38
  Speaker 2: The math real quick.
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  Speaker 3: Can you imagine if Cedric was one of the three
• 7:42
  Speaker 3: they brought back for fifty.
• 7:44
  Speaker 1: If I did my math, if I did my math correct,
• 7:49
  Speaker 1: nineteen people voted for some Okay, which is that's nineteen
• 7:53
  Speaker 1: more than I thought he was gonna get.
• 7:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.
• 7:57
  Speaker 1: Read this our next award, brand right, this is the
• 8:00
  Speaker 1: quote of the Season award.
• 8:03
  Speaker 3: We've got Say saying and She's running. We've got Camilla's
• 8:08
  Speaker 3: very long quotes.
• 8:09
  Speaker 2: About the bus and whatnot. I'm not going to read
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  Speaker 2: the whole thing.
• 8:12
  Speaker 3: We've got, Uh, Mitch, we've got to make a move soon. Uh,
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  Speaker 3: and we've got what's this good?
• 8:21
  Speaker 2: Dude? Is his name?
• 8:23
  Speaker 1: David?
• 8:23
  Speaker 2: David? David saying knock knock, who's there? And the winter?
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  Speaker 1: Uh yeah, this is gonna be crazy. Go ahead and
• 8:32
  Speaker 1: announce it.
• 8:32
  Speaker 2: What do we do?
• 8:34
  Speaker 1: So there is a tie? Guy with eight hundred and
• 8:38
  Speaker 1: sixty three votes, Camilla and Mitch, their two quotes are tied.
• 8:43
  Speaker 2: How is that?
• 8:45
  Speaker 1: Me and Peter? That's dude, It's insane that we had
• 8:47
  Speaker 1: a tie out of like eight hundred and sixty three votes.
• 8:50
  Speaker 1: Me and pd had to sit down and come up
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  Speaker 1: with the rule for this. What do you do? The
• 8:55
  Speaker 1: rule is we get to decide we're the tide breaker.
• 9:00
  Speaker 1: We get to decide.
• 9:02
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, you and me.
• 9:04
  Speaker 1: Here's my pitch. Yeah, here's my pitch for who I
• 9:06
  Speaker 1: think should win it. Mitch shared this post to his story,
• 9:12
  Speaker 1: which means that we got a big influx of Mitch fans.
• 9:17
  Speaker 1: Camilla is on a Fijian island right now. She didn't
• 9:20
  Speaker 1: have a chance to share it and get her fans
• 9:22
  Speaker 1: in there to vote for her. So I think if
• 9:25
  Speaker 1: we take away Mitch's kind of like he shared it
• 9:29
  Speaker 1: to his audience, Camilla would have won. So I say,
• 9:33
  Speaker 1: we vote for Camilla.
• 9:34
  Speaker 2: Are your That's good. That's good enough logic for me.
• 9:38
  Speaker 3: I I'm taken aback by this guy Miles in the comments,
• 9:43
  Speaker 3: who's just real grumpy about the quotes. Anyway, Yeah, say
• 9:50
  Speaker 3: commented with a bunch of crying emoji's.
• 9:52
  Speaker 2: That makes me happy. But I like it.
• 9:55
  Speaker 3: I say we go, we rock with Camilla winning because
• 9:59
  Speaker 3: Mitch shares.
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  Speaker 2: But maybe, but we don't want to. I don't know.
• 10:02
  Speaker 2: It's nice that.
• 10:02
  Speaker 1: Mid shared it, right, Yeah, No, it's very nice that
• 10:05
  Speaker 1: Mid shared it. But I'm just thinking, like statistically, he
• 10:08
  Speaker 1: would not have won if he had not shared it. Yeah,
• 10:11
  Speaker 1: and Camilla didn't get the opportunity to share it because
• 10:13
  Speaker 1: she's in Fiji playing again.
• 10:15
  Speaker 3: That's a great points. That's a great point. All right,
• 10:19
  Speaker 3: let's do it. Let's roll with Camilla.
• 10:22
  Speaker 1: Awesome because also, I just don't I would feel bad
• 10:25
  Speaker 1: if Mitch won something.
• 10:28
  Speaker 2: He didn't make a move the whole thing here, all right.
• 10:35
  Speaker 1: Our next award, the Villain Award, the Villain of the
• 10:38
  Speaker 1: Season who do you all think was the biggest villain
• 10:41
  Speaker 1: of season forty eight. We did put a disclaimer in
• 10:44
  Speaker 1: the caption of this one. We have no idea why
• 10:47
  Speaker 1: Brand nominated Camilla for this. We don't think he really
• 10:50
  Speaker 1: understood the assignment.
• 10:54
  Speaker 2: Do you see shout out to Ricky?
• 10:58
  Speaker 3: Ricky said Camilla was way closer to a villain than
• 11:01
  Speaker 3: she was a hero.
• 11:03
  Speaker 2: That's for sure. It's all in the eye of the beholder.
• 11:06
  Speaker 3: Okay, PD's over there, just you know, kissing the feet
• 11:11
  Speaker 3: of Camilla.
• 11:12
  Speaker 2: That's weird. I shouldn't have said it that way.
• 11:14
  Speaker 3: But just because we're a fan of someone doesn't mean
• 11:19
  Speaker 3: that they aren't also a villain.
• 11:21
  Speaker 1: That's very true, very true, and I agree with you.
• 11:24
  Speaker 1: I thought that the Camilla nomination was out there because
• 11:28
  Speaker 1: I don't think many people would have considered her a villain.
• 11:30
  Speaker 1: But she did say very villainous things like running people
• 11:33
  Speaker 1: over with buses.
• 11:34
  Speaker 2: And did she come in she lied a lot. Did
• 11:38
  Speaker 2: she come in last place?
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: No? No? So well, so nice nice guys finished last.
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: So she's not a nice guy. Is that what you're saying?
• 11:50
  Speaker 2: I just know.
• 11:50
  Speaker 3: All I'm saying is I clearly I tapped into something here.
• 11:56
  Speaker 2: Right, I tapped in haters, aster ricks.
• 12:06
  Speaker 1: You confused me. But with six hundred and forty seven responses, yep,
• 12:12
  Speaker 1: a sixty nine percent win. It's say Baby. Everybody voted
• 12:19
  Speaker 1: for Say.
• 12:20
  Speaker 2: I wonder what Say thinks about being the villain? Do you?
• 12:24
  Speaker 2: I mean I think she likes it? You think so?
• 12:26
  Speaker 2: I mean she commented on one and not.
• 12:28
  Speaker 1: The other, so she might have just not seen this one.
• 12:31
  Speaker 3: Maybe not, Because I'm not gonna make any assumptions.
• 12:34
  Speaker 1: She probably saw the quote one because Mitch shared it
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: to his Instagram store.
• 12:37
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, all right, you know this is That's nice
• 12:40
  Speaker 2: of you.
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: But what I will say is that someone in the
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: comments of this said use this as an Eva was
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: the real villain button and sixty people liked it, so
• 12:49
  Speaker 1: she actually got a strong amount of votes too, and
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: she wasn't even nominated.
• 12:53
  Speaker 2: Eva was not a villain. Get out of here. Yeah.
• 12:57
  Speaker 1: No, I don't think she was a villain. I think
• 12:58
  Speaker 1: she was just kind of a boring place. But guys,
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: say with a landslide. Thomas came in second place with
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: twelve percent of the votes. Camilla with ten Charity got
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: less votes than Camilla, which is crazy.
• 13:10
  Speaker 2: That's right, because one of them was an actual villain.
• 13:16
  Speaker 3: Anyway, making the Merge MVP Award, which is the person
• 13:24
  Speaker 3: who is the most valuable player to the podcast, not
• 13:27
  Speaker 3: necessarily to the show itself.
• 13:30
  Speaker 2: We do have Mother Mary herself, who.
• 13:32
  Speaker 3: Has sent in many eclipse and is just an overall
• 13:36
  Speaker 3: great time.
• 13:37
  Speaker 2: We got David who we just had a lot of
• 13:39
  Speaker 2: fun talking about.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of fun and I wrote a song about it.
• 13:44
  Speaker 3: I was having so much fun.
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we got Joe lots to talk about with Joe obviously,
• 13:49
  Speaker 2: and then Star Star Updates was the gift that kept
• 13:53
  Speaker 2: on giving.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, but ultimately the winner finally is Mayor.
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  Speaker 1: With seventy percent of the votes. It was a landslide.
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: Mary's the best, Mary's.
• 14:06
  Speaker 2: The best, but start he come in second place.
• 14:08
  Speaker 3: Star obviously another who Star was a slow burn, I
• 14:12
  Speaker 3: think for a lot of people, including myself, But once
• 14:15
  Speaker 3: you kind of fell in love with Star, it was
• 14:18
  Speaker 3: it was hard not to cheer for Star.
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: She was a big Internet darling, like the Internet's the
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: big Internet fans over on Twitter really loved Star so much,
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: absolutely so. Not not super surprised you came in second, but.
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: Not surprised that that Mary came in first.
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: Exactly. Our next award, the Funniest Castaway Award. The nominees
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: Mary once again, Star once again, David once again, and Sedrick,
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: who was the funniest player on the Island Guys Star
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: with sixty of the votes. When's the Mergye Mary was
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: in a strong second a place with pans applying.
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: I think about that song all the time, all the time.
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: My favorite comment from any of our award posts was
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: when someone said, you guys clearly forgot about Mitch's hilarious
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: mailman story.
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: Uh yeah, and listen, someone mentioned why is Shakeen not
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: on there?
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: We get it?
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: So we had to make room for Cedric. I don't
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: know what to tell you.
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he just wasn't that funny. I mean
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: he was definitely outspoken, he was doing bids, but he
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: didn't make me laugh as like hard as Cedric made
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: me laugh.
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that's the thing, Like I I think, like
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: Shaheen is a.
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: Funny guy, right, but like it's the type of funny
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: that's like, oh that's funny, you know, like when he
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: did that yeah, yeah, when he did the singing thing,
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: the like, oh that's funny, and then they do the
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: thing behind it. With the music and I'm like, oh,
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: that's good, great Cedric. I laughed multiple times.
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: So you want dying laughing.
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: Anyway, the Game Changer Award is up next.
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: Uh. These are moments that kind of changed how the
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: game was played and who won and all that good stuff.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: Up.
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: First, Camilla convincing Joe that sha Heen has an idol.
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: It's a big moment.
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: Camilla giving Kyle the layup at final tribal, basically interrupting
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: Eva as she's bragging about this move and.
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: Being like, that's not what happened.
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: Eva telling Joe about her autism obviously a big moment,
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: which led to even bigger moments later in the season.
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: And then Mary's successfully using her shot in the dark. Oh,
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: what a legendary moment. Love to see it. The winner
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: This is a pretty close one. Uh, no real runaway here.
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: The winner is Camilla can convincing Joe about Shaheen having
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: an idol. A big moments, a big moment, and I
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: think this one is a is a correct choice to
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: me because it's like without this moment Camilla giving Kyle
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: the layup, can't can't have one without the other, And
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: so just a big moment in the game for sure
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: one number.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: I think that was the that was the right choice.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: A lot of people voted for Camilla helping Kyle at
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: the final tribal council, but just like you said, can't
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: have one without the other. Not A lot of people
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: voted for the Eva confiding in Joe, which I thought
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: was shocking because that's a huge.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: I think people were just over it, you know.
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: I think people are more over the Eva Joe thing.
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: I think if you take a step back and look
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: at it, it's a huge moment. But I understand that
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: it was played up a ton. We saw that moment
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: in the moment and the challenge everywhere for a ever, and.
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: So I get being over it.
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: I do have questions about, uh, maybe we should figure
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: out some sort of different, uh, how way to shortened
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: Shot in the Dark, because right now it just as
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: Mary successfully uses her s I t D, which sounds.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: Not great when I when I was posting that, I
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: realized that what it looked like and I was like,
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: but I can't spell, there's not enough characters.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: I don't know how you fix it. I don't know.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: So I just had to do Shot in the Dark
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: s I t D dude, and she used that s
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: I T D. Brother, sure did.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: It's better than just than just getting rid of the eye,
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: for sure, that would have been.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: Unfortunately, our next award the Making the Merge Running Bit nominees.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: That are these are the running bits on our podcast
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: that we got to have fun doing all season long.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: The nominations Chrissy is speaking, and then the songs that
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: we did throughout the season. We had several songs. We
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: had the Big Bro Club, We had the song that
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: Brand made about David and Mary yep and I'd.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: Give up forever.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: Some great songs, some great songs, some not even released
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: unless you're a patron that some patreonic exclusive songs, the
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: Stone Cold Eva, Austin Autism three sixteen, and then finally
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: demon Cedric the Carolina Reaper himself coming on the show
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: to scream at all of us from hell. Guys, this
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: was another close one, another one, but with thirty seven
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: percent of the votes are songs that makes sense. You
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: guys did such a great job with the songs this season. Man,
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: it was awesome.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: It was a fun uh, I don't know, thing that
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: just kind of happens, you know. Yeah, Yeah, these were
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: those things where it's tough where someone does one.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: You know, PD did the first one. Yeah, it's like.
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: If I if I try, if I try to do one,
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: am I like is it really gonna work?
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: And luckily it just seemed to work.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: Every time, So yeah, well it helped that. It was
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: like PD did the first one and then Jonathan just
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: came out swinging with Big Broke Club right after that,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: it was it was game over. After that, we had something.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: We had something there. Some of the comments on this one,
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: a lot of people said so hard, they were all perfect.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: Someone said Stone Cold Eva Austin was the best, but
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: damn if those songs weren't good. Carolina Reaper has entered
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: my survivor vernacular. Y'all are so good at the songs
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: and soundbits. I vote that you make a new We're
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: Better opening to the show. This caused a lot of
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: controversy behind the scenes.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: Is that mean?
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: And p D and Jonathan were not happy with that
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: comment because they love our theme song the song. We
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: do have a great theme song, but I did see
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: where they were coming. We bring a lot of energy.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: Our show is chaotic, but our theme song very vibe,
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: very low fun. So I could see why they would
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: suggest that. I didn't think it was a bad suggestion,
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: but PD almost had an aneurysm.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: Well, listen, you can't come out swinging with, you know,
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: something like that crazy. I can't have stone Cold right
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: out of the gate.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: I love stone Cold, brother. So that was our making
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: the Merge MERGI Awards. Congratulations to everyone who won a
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: MERGI Award this season. It's a very prestigious honor.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: Now let's get to kind of the main part of
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: what this episode is. This is our draft recap. We're
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: gonna be going through the draft that we did at
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: the beginning of the season. So we drafted two episodes
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: into season forty eight, which means that Kevin and uh,
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: what's the other girl's name, Stephanieie that gummtt I would
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: have got that. Stephanie and Kevin were already gone when
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: we drafted. So let's just go through these one by
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: one in the order that they were drafted, and let's
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: just talk like, Hey, who made a great choice, who
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: made a big mistake? Big mistake? Do you remember who
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: got the first? Who got to pick very first? This year?
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: It was it PD.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, I don't know why that was like, so
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: I thought you were going to really just like hit it.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: Oh, no, I had to really think about it. Yeah,
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: it was PD and PD pick Camilla.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: Yep, PD got the first overall draft pick and Camilla
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: went first.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, I'll be the first to admit it. I
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: didn't get to pick at all. At the time. Camilla
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: had made such little.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: Impacts on my brain up to that point that when
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: he picked Camilla out of the gate I was having.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: A hard time even remembering who Camilla was at the time.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: I remember, if you go back and listen, me and
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: Jonathan go what we were so shocked that she was
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: the first overall pick. But I remember at the time
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: like I had her on my list because I was like,
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: she seems like the kind of player that we'll see
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: more of later on, Like right now, we're seeing a
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: lot of the people that are going to be going
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: home pre merge and and I mean, that is what
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: ended up happening. But I would have never thought that
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: she was going first overall pick.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: No, I didn't see it coming.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: But you know what, I'm a big man, and I
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: can admit when I'm wrong.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: It was a great, great pick Camilla, great pick basically
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: won the season.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: I understand Kyle won the season, but that like if
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: that that.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: That win is if Camilla.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: If Camilla would have won Fire, she would have won
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: the season.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: Like I I'd be interested to see how it plays
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: out those two kind of fighting against each other, you know,
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: cause the one thing like I'm still not totally sure,
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: like how liked Camilla was compared to how like Kyle
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: was and vice versa.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: You know, like I can I can clarify this because
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: what the jury said after the show was if Camilla
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: was in the final three, we would have all voted
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: for Camilla. Yeah, so we do.
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: How how seriously to take that like the hindsight and
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: like what who I would have voted for if this
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: had happened, Like it's always hard to know, but.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: That seems I believe because because apparently she was really
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: tight with Shaheen as well Kyle Shaheen, she was friends
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: with Mary, like she she had a lot of friends
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: over on the jury. We just didn't see that part
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: one exactly. She's a bully, but she's great, She's a villain.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: The second pick goes to the rights and they picked Joe.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: Talk a little bit about this. I don't think anyone
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: was shocked about.
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: No.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: This seemed like even early on, this was before the
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: moment happened on the beach with Eva and the whole
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: him coming together with her and that big moment that
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: at that time felt like Joe was at the top
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: of the top of the food chain there. Even before that,
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: it felt it was kind of like Joe's season to
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: lose almost from the get going.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: Part of that is the edit that he got.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: Kind of gave him big hero vibes, at least through
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: the last episode.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: I think the last episode things kind of fell apart
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: fro him a little bit, and there were a couple
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: of little hiccups.
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: The moment with David where David and him had his
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: little thing about you know, you went back on an order, No,
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: I did that whole thing. And then the shahen moments
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: where you know, basically treats Shaheen like he's a child.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: Those are little lips along away, obviously, and I think
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: that they cost him the game in a sense. But
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: throughout the season it was it felt very much like
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: Joe's season to lose, even going into that finale, even
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: going into the final tribal, it felt like his to lose,
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: and he just put up such a awful little such
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: like one of the worst I've seen. I can't remember
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: a tribal where I felt over fifty percent confident in
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: who I thought was gonna win, and by the end
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: of it, I thought he had a zero percent chance.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: Like just an absolute whiff.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: And I can't even think of another final tribal that
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: went that way where it felt like literally watching someone
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: lose the win before our Now whether or not that's
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: the reality, you know, maybe some people were gonna vote
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: for Kyle regardless. I don't know, but that's what it
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: felt like based off of the edit that he got
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: and kind of how it felt like he was running
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: the game the whole season.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you disagree, No.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: No, I agree. What I will say about it is
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: when the Riots drafted Joe first for their team but
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: second overall, I immediately was just like, you've made a
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: fatal mistake that I've made several times, which is you
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: took the giant threat. But apparently this was the one
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: season where all of the giant threats got to stay
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: in the game. So it ended up working out, and
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: you know, they did better because Joe made it to
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: the final three. I didn't have a single person in
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: the final three, you know, so it worked out better
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: for them. But when it first happened, I was like,
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: that's a huge mistake, dude, the big strong guy never wins,
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: and he didn't, but he didn't make it to the
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: final three, which was crazy. Yeah.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: Then no, I was just gonna say, it was definitely
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: an interesting season of the Strong Personal Alliance and it'll
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: be interesting to see, Like we're really not gonna get
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: to see the effect that that has on the game
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: really until fifty one. Like forty nine hasn't seen a
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: fifties its own thing. Like they're gonna play a completely
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: different game based off of previous relationships and so many
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: other different things that we don't only get to see
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: the effect of one the Strong Strong People Alliance and
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: the Secret Alliance. I think both of those could have
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: an effect on future seasons, but we're not gonna get
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: to see it until fifty one.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: So and I think you're actually like one right because
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: I've been saying one hundred percent a lot this podcast. Well,
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: I'm really smart. You are. You are very smart. I
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: mean we agree on everything. It's not like I'm here
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: with Jonathan.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: Oh thank god, I'm diving in.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: But you're like, I bet we will get verbal confirmation
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: in fifty one where someone goes, we gotta be like
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: Joe and the Strong Guy's alliance, Like I feel like
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: someone's gonna say that out loud, and it's gonna be
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: really cool how the game evolves. You know. The next
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: person that got to vote was you brand Yes and
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: your first pick, and I was so jealous. I got
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: so upset when I listened back to it. You can
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: hear me get verbally upset with you when you drafted it.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: You drafted Shaheen first.
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: Listen, Man, I still think that this was the right pick. Like,
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: I agree, Shaheen is a pretty perfect Survivor player.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: He's I thought he was the winner, dude.
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: He's strong, he's smart, he's great socially, and it just
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: felt like this is a slam dunk, if ever there
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: was a slam dunkin Survivor.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: Dude. When I had him the top of my list,
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: I was going to take him first as well. I
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: thought he was the winner, dude. And I thought he
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: was the winner well past the merge, Like it wasn't
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: until everything started to happen with Kyle and Camilla, where
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: I was like, Shaheen is the obvious winner this game.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: I thought that you won the draft, dude, I first
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: at bat, this is your first season drafting with us,
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: your very first pick of the draft. I thought you
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: won the season right there. I was so jealous.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: I think I'd still make this pick.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: You know, I I think ten out of ten drafts,
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: given the first two episodes that we saw, and you
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: know all the pre drafts media that we took in.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: I'm picking.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: I'm picking Shaheen.
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: I like I would have picked him first, not just first,
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: not just first for my team, but if I had
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: the first overall pick, I would have picked sha Heen.
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: So I know, I think on a on a different season,
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: who knows how it plays out for Shaquen, but he's
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: a great survivor player, and I really liked the pick.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: So I wouldn't take it. I wouldn't. I wouldn't do
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: anything differently there.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so far, all of these picks, all of these
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: first round picks, I don't think anyone made a big mistake.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: And then we get to my team.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: I go to draft.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: I always notoriously draft last it's happened every single time.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: Very impressive.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: It sucks, man, it really sucks because I do the
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: same thing every season, and it's my biggest flaw. I
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: have to pick last. Everyone who I wanted to pick
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: has been taken in the first round. I panic, and
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: because it's a snake draft and I get to pick
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: back to back, I panic and I just pick two
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: people at random, and it never works out. Previously I
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: pan like, so I'll give an example. I wanted Shaheen bad.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: I wanted Shahen bad. I wanted Camilla bad. Those were
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: my two top picks then I had. Then I had
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: some other picks that I were like, well, I would
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: pick these people if I have to, right, Like in
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: my back of my head, I was like, Mary would
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: be a great first round pick because I can play
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: up there. I'm I'm voting. I'm picking mother Mary. Like,
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: so o, Camilla is gone, shai Heene's gone. I'm panicking.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: I have to pick twice in a row, right, and
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: my first pick just got took taken, got tooken, got tooken.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: That's took real good.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: And so I just panic and I go, I'm gonna
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: go with the meme pick. At that point because we
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: hadn't seen Mary play much. We had just seen her
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: be very, very funny. She was on the losing tribe.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: They were going home every week, and I just said,
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: for the memes, I'm taking Mary. I drafted Mary first round.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: I don't regret it because I love Mary, but I
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: really really wish I would have taken I mean, Kyle
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: was on the table, Kyle was on the table, Kyle
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: was on the table. Eva was on the table. I
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: mean Mary made it far into the game, but Kyle.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: I could have taken Kyle.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you could have pickn Kyle twice. Yeah, that's that's
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: the tough part. I wish I had my initial.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: Draft order.
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: I was keeping it updated as people were being taken,
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: I was taking them off the board.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't forget.
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: So I don't have the initial document unless I can
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: go back in time, which I might be able to.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: But yeah, that's tough. I when did when does Kyle
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: get tooken?
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: Kyle gets taken in the second round by the rights.
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: Right, but I pick twice and then they picked Kyle
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: ye exactly?
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: No, sorry no, So because it was snake it went,
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: I picked Mary. Then I picked Thomas as we're about
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: to get into. Then it went back to you, oh right,
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: and then it went to the rights, so Kyle was
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: on the board for you as well. And we'll talk
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: about that when we get to that pick. But I
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: mean I I got to pick two picks in a row,
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: and I did not take Kyle for either of those.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: I took Mary first, and then let's just jump into
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: the second one. Then I had my next choice, and
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: I took Thomas, which proved to be a fatal, fatal
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: mistake for my team.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's tough.
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: That's one of those picks though, man, Like, that's uh you.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: I couldn't have predicted Thomas going home at that point
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: in time.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: Thomas is a post merge player.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: He is. I thought, I really thought if I was
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: gonna pick out of everyone left, I was like, Thomas
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: is the winner out of everyone left. I would have
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: never thought Kyle was winning over Thomas.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: Interesting, sheesh. So, uh, after I took Thomas, were we're
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: deep in the second round, now you got to go
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: and you took Say, which I will admit I thought
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: was a really dumb move on your part.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: Yes, So what happened here is I pivoted.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: Okay when the murder.
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: When when the draft came along, I decided I was
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: gonna rock with the cameo pricing, and I went in
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: order of cameo pricing, Shaheen with the forty eight and
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: then Say with the forty and neither of those proved
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: to work out in your favorite No, they did not. No,
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: you know, I don't think that there's a world where
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: Say wins this season.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: I don't think so either. But I think where the
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: reason I thought that you made a huge mistake is
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: because the original Vula tribe they were getting picked off
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: one by one, Yeah, and the only ones left were Mary,
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: Cedric Pizza, and Say. And I was like, you do
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: not want to pick too many people on that Green tribe.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: And then you proceeded to pick two people tribe.
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: You know, I think with this would Say I overestimated
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: her redemption arc. I thought that the relationship between Mary
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: and Say they were going to begin to work together,
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: there was gonna be some redemption there. They were going
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: to kind of decide that we're stronger together than.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: We are apart.
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: And we almost get that, right, yes, like we almost
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: get that. You know, Mary plays her shot in the dark,
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: Cedric votes for Say twice, decides I'm going to keep
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: her vote out Pizza as long as you two cut it, right,
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: you remember to cut it. Oh, And at the end
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: of that episode, I'm flying high, like, yes, I lost Pizza,
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: but I knew I was going to lose one of
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: those people regardless, right right, And so to me, I
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: get Say, who I kind of felt like was a
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: stronger competitor, and.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: She's sticking around because she's agreen to cut it.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: She's a green So you Takedrick Withedric Cedric saying Mary
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: were going to be a threat, like a trio going.
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: I haven't said anything about Cedric. I don't put words
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: in my mouth that I thought. Mary and Say we're
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: going to agree to cut it and partner together, decided
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: they're going to take on the game.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: Well we ended up getting after.
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: That was we get a tribe swap right, Yes and Say.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: Was never the same. No, I don't know what happened.
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: It's as if Mary was says Muse, and she just
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: didn't know how to play the game without It's.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: Like Batman and Joker. Dude, yeah, it's not fun without
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: Batman's Joker doesn't want to do it without that.
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: I remember distinctly, like the whole that the episode post
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: tribal swap, Mary decides she's not going to compete in
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: a challenge because she's just tired or whatever, and and
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: I like, say, yes, say sorry, did I say, Mary?
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, say is not going to compete because she's tired.
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: And I'm like trying to rationalize. I'm like, you know,
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: everybody at some point in Survivor goes through this low
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: point and you will come out.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: And where she's She's in her low point very clearly,
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: and she just never got out of it. Man, she
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: never got out.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: She couldn't get out of that valley. And that's okay,
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: it happens. I say, is one of those that I
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: would have liked to see come back and play in
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: the future, because I would like to see her go
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: up against some other like actually wanting to cut throat
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: Survivor players.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: So after brand takes say, then it goes to the
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: rights and the Rights take the winner of season forty eight, Kyle.
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: Doing it right back stings.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: The Rights took Joe and Kyle one and two. It
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: is like they knew you listened back to the episode.
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, do I even flirt with the idea of taking Kyle.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: No, No one did. No one did. Now, when when
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: they say Kyle, we get a few, I's gonna be like, oh,
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: that's a good pick. That's a good pick. But dude,
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: I did not think he was gonna make it that far.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: They Kristin in particular, not to I'm not trying to
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: clown Jonathan. Wow. Kristin is really good at drafting players,
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: like she is every even if she doesn't win the season,
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: which there's only been one time that she hasn't won
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: the season other than no, no two times, two times
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: she has won the season. The fact that any other season,
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: picking the two strongest guys out there, the two big
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: muscle bros that would not have worked out, both of
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: them make it to the final three.
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I think because I had Kyle in
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: my preseason breakdown, right, and I think I I think
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: I got scared. I think Kyle scared me with some.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: Of the things he talked about, specifically the quote.
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: That he says that he's an impulsive player, which he
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: thinks may work against him. I think seeing that and
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: seeing this whole thing, like this quote about if I
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: win it's gonna be a dominant game. I run these
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: scenarios in my head. I don't know if I can
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: hide in a lot of ways. I have to come
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: out and I have to play hard. And then I
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: see that he's impulsive, and I think, like, I just
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: don't think that he's gonna win. And so I think, maybe,
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: you know, this is the first time we've done the preseason,
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: maybe it scared me. Maybe I was scared of some
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: of these things about Kyle, And ultimately these are the
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: things that kind of.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: Helped him, help him.
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: He like he partnered with Camilla, and like a lot
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: of the decisions that he was making were impulsive.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: Like these like, hey, we can't make a move.
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: It's almost like this impulsive desire to like not turn
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: on his buddies.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: You know. It's like this, like very interesting.
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: Like I think I got scared of Kyle, of my
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: own analysis of Kyle, and that makes sense.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: And if I remember correctly, I don't remember what it was,
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: but in week two, in the second episode, I think
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: he did something that turned everyone off on seeing him
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: as a winner. I don't remember what it was, but
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: I remember at one point being like, oh, I would
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: I would draft Kyle, and then he does something and
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: set in the second week where I was like, oh,
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: maybe I don't draft Kyle, but I don't remember what
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: it was.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: I mean, ultimately, I just kind.
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: Of felt better about Shaheen, I felt better about Thomas.
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: I felt better about some of these other guys than
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: I did Kyle for whatever reason. And so you know,
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: clearly I'm wrong and I have to live with that
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: for the rest of my life.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: Hey, he was on the table, dude, he was on
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: the table for me two in a row. I could
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: have picked him to row. That's why Jeff Probe say
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: this is the greatest social experiment of all time. You
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: never know what's gonna happen on Survivor, and you really don't.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: You can think you know, you don't. Next up, PD
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: takes Eva. Now PD, he has done this before, and
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: he's doing this strategy again. He does an all female draft.
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: Listen, it's not a bad philosophy, especially kind of if
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: you look at the last few seasons.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: Not a bad tho.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: Well, this is where I love this statistic. The past
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: three or four winners have been women. If a woman
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: won this season as well, if Camilla would have won instead,
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: of Kyle. Let's say or Eva would have won instead
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: of Kyle, this would have been the most female winners
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: in a row in Survivor history. It would have been
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: an anomaly, right, And I think that shows how the
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: game has changed. But then in the season where all
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: of the big muscle bros controlled the game for the
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: first time, and I don't know, five, six, seven years
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: and it's the first season in a long time where
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: a woman doesn't win, it's always a smart pick to
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: do an all women team, I think, yeah, because because
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you're going to get
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: at the beginning of a Survivor season, you're gonna get
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: these big, in your face men, and they're getting a
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: lot of screen time, and they're doing challenges, right, and
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: you kind of want to take them because that's all
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: you're seeing in the first couple of weeks. But in
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: the background, there is a a woman player, or maybe
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: even just a not as in your face man player
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: who will get to see a lot of later, Like Camilla,
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: we'll get to see her a lot later, but we're
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: just not seeing her right now.
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, And to that point, like it's it's just
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: it's you have these yeah, like Camilla is a perfect example,
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: like able to kind of play the game controlled in
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: a sense and then strike when she.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: Needs to, like.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: Your cerebral player. Yeah yeah, so uh PD taking Eva
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: in the second round. He took Camilla first round, Eva
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: second round. I thought this was a dumb move. I
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: thought it was a really dumb move because I think
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: Eva has the backstory. It was just like Mitch. I
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: didn't think Mitch was a good pick either when and
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: we'll get to that in a minute, because they have
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: the the not a sob story, but they have the
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: story arc of the season. Eva is overcoming her panic
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: attacks on the island because of her autism. That player
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: never wins. They usually become some sort of fan favorite
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: or like someone that the audience gets behind. They never win.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: So Eva, I thought it was a wild pick, all right,
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: But then because of the snake, Eva gets to or
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: pet gets to pick twice in a row. So right
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: after he takes Eva, he takes Bianca.
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: Who Bianca? Yeah, I know it's a bold move.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: Bianca not a great looking at PD's team at like this.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: He really didn't do a great draft this season. I
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: don't think Camilla was an awesome player. It was his
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: best player on his team for sure. Even made it
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: to the final three, that is something. But I don't
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: think she ever had a chance of winning. And Bianca
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: went home almost immediately after. Yeah, he drafted her.
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah it's not I'm not saying it's his fault, but yeah.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: Not a PD is a very usually a very strong drafter.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: This season, I don't know. I don't know if it
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: was so weird.
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: It was a weird season for sure.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: All right, then it goes to the rights and they
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: take Charity.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: Yep, it happened.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: No, I don't have much to say about that. I
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: think I think we all knew at this point the
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: people that we were drafting were not our top pick
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: to win. But Charity I thought was a strong pick
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: at the time. She was a strong player. She had
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: that kind of aggressive personality that you know can help
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: you go really far and survivor like a like a
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: Kinsey when Kinsey won a few seasons ago. The first
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: few episodes, I didn't think Kensey was gonna make it
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: far because she was playing too hard and it was
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: getting her in trouble with her tribe. But then you know,
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: she turned around and won the season. And I thought
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: that Charity was a Kinsey archetype, but she.
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: Just stopped that Charity. She never stopped yeap, much like Chris.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: Chrissy wake up.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: Then brand you got to pick your third your third
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: round pick, and you had the choice between You had
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: the choice of taking Justin, Who's Pizza, Mitch, star Cedric
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: or David, And you chose Pizza, another player from the
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: original Vula who were getting picked off week by week.
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: It's not a good pick. It's not a good pick.
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: My thought process here was I wasn't very high on
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: Mitch at the time. I liked Mitch, but he was
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: so likable that I figured he was going to get
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: taken out.
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: David I just thought was so dumb that he wouldn't
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: make it very far.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, which you were wrong, but not totally wrong.
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: I think of everyone on there at the time, I
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: was like, Pizza to me, is the one that is
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: kind of the biggest, Like could be a wild.
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: Card type play pick.
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and so, and I figured if I have everybody
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: on that team, someone's going to survive, right, Yeah.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: And honestly, like I liked your I liked your Pizza
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: pick better than your say pick, I thought that Pizza
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: had the like said, had the potentially be a wild
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: card that ends up making it really far in the
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: game somehow.
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: Listen, sometimes you vote for say twice and Pizza goes home,
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: and you know, and that's just the way things sometimes.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: But uh yeah, I mean, and we can talk about
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: your draft as a whole in a minute, but you
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: were the first person to lose every player on your
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: team this season.
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: I know, I'm still.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: Statistically you had the worst draft. However, if you listened
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: to back to our draft episode, at the end of
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: the episode, I start going off about how I think
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: brand has the best team out of everyone. You're so kind,
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: so I also I was on the same pages. Yeah,
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: I was on the same page as I thought you
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: had a really good deed, and I felt.
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: Really good about Shaheen too, Like any team I think
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: was gonna look really good with Shaheen on.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: It, I agree. It was like PD's team PS team
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: really wasn't anything great, but he had come so it
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: immediately made his team look way better. After you took
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: Date Justin. Then it goes to me again, I didn't
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: have many options left and I took Chrissy.
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: I thought she was like, she was the older woman archetype.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: I thought maybe she could make it pretty far. At
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: that point, she was barely we had never we hadn't
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: heard her speak. Yeah, that's where the chrissy is speaking.
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: King.
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, anytime she said a word, it was like such as.
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: And then very shortly after they started letting her speak,
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: she spoke too much and it sent her home. And
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: that was just you know, that's just how the cards lay.
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: Dude, don't like if you If you, the moral of
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: the story is, if you see the big Bro club forming,
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: don't try to speak out against it twice in a row. Yes,
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: do it once, see if anybody is following with you,
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: and then be like, you know what, let me see
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: if there's another way to get one.
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: Cut the bait and just try to try to float.
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: At that point, due to the snake draft, I got
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: to pick twice in a row again. I had the
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: opportunity to take either Mitch or Star or Cedric or David,
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: and I chose Mitch. He made it really far.
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: He was your last player around, right, yeah.
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: I mean yeah, he made it further than Mary, right
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: yeah yeah, So I mean it wasn't a terrible pick.
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: He was my last pick. I didn't really want to
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: pick him. I didn't think he had a chance to winning.
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: He made it really far. He ended up being the
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: reason that the season suffered towards the end. And you know,
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: the game could have been very different. If he stepped
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: up and made a move, he could have won. Maybe
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: you know, you gotta make a move. But so yeah,
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: my Mitch pick, I.
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: Guess one move is all you needed to make this
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: season in order to win.
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: That's all you needed was one move, one and helped
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: from help from one good ally. So yeah, I don't
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: know if I regret my Mitch pick, because at the
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: end of the day, he made it farther than any
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: of my other plays. But you know, oh, well, goes.
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: Back to.
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: Brand. You got to pick your fourth player, and you
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: chose David. Yes, out of the options that were left,
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: which was Starr and Cedric. I think David was a
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: good choice.
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: I picked David because he was the only one of
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: those three that had a cameo and I wasn't high.
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: I thought there's no way in the world Cedric's gonna
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: win this game. And at that point in time, Star
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: was then like Star at all and so David was
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: the pick for me.
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you made a great quote. That's the
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: thing that's so crazy about doing these draft recapped episodes
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: is at the time you had made probably the smartest
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: decisions out of anyone, except for the fact that you
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: took two people from original VULA. You made really really
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: great decisions. But looking back at it, you had the
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: worst team. And that's so interesting to me. After you
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: took David.
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: Learning experience, you know, we'll we'll take it back to
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: the tape and we'll kind of see where things get
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: wrong for me and where the kind of wheels fell off.
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: But you know, I'll go in the next season. I'll
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: it'll be bigger and better than ever.
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: Hey man, you got you did. You did pretty good
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: for your first season. Next season you get another another
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: practice before the big one season. I can't be worse.
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: I can't be worse.
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: You know that's true.
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: I mean you could. You could lose all four in
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: a row immediately.
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: Okay, thank you, Yes, yes, and that would be hilarious.
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: I would love that.
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: But listened, last place is the last place, you know.
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. After you took David, the rights got
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: to pick. They had the choice between Star and Cedric,
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: and it baffled all of us that they took Cedric
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: over Starr. Yeah, wild pick, and it didn't work out
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: for him. Cedric was gone way before.
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: It's so crazy as going into this season, all me,
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: you and PD were like.
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: We're picking Greenville first, Baby come Hell or.
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: Greenville, And then we saw the first two episodes and
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: we were like, we're not picking him for anything.
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: You can't make us pick him.
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: So really, two episodes is all it took for us
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: to turn on our own.
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and she was awesome. She ended up being a
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: huge fan favorite, and which is why PD was very
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: happy that he got to for his last pick. He
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: got to pick Star. Yeah, he didn't have a choice,
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: it was all that was left. But he could not
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: believe that he was fortunate enough to get Star over
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: Cedric because he really thought that Cedric was gonna be
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: the very last pick we all did, but the rights
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: took Cedric instead of Star, so PD. So I'm just
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: gonna go through each team, the total team in full,
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: and we can just kind of look and see who
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: had the best team overall. My full team was Mary, Thomas, Chrissy,
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: and Mitch I think I probably had the worst players
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: on my team, if that makes sense. I think that
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: Mary Mary was the best player by far, and she
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: still couldn't quite it. Just it wasn't the season for that,
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: you know. Ye, sadly PD's team Camilla, Eva, Bianca and
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: Star the all female team. What do you think about that?
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: That tribe.
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: It's not a bad tribe.
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: I think Camilla kind of skews the curve there a little.
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: Bit, yes, but not a bad draft, I don't think.
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: I think if instead of Bianca he had someone like
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: a Mitch or a Shaheen who made it really far,
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: I think he would have had a phenomenal Yeah, Bianca's kind.
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: Of the odd man out there or odd woman out.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah. The Rights team they had Joe Kyle, Charity set,
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, come on, they had two out of the
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: three final three.
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: Obviously, Cedric kind of throws a curveball there, but I
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: think it's hard to argue that that's not the best team.
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: Charity at the.
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: Time especially was a strong choice. I think that they
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: made a great choice, so, I mean they had they
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: showed a lot of great insight by picking Kyle when
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: everyone else was kind of like, really Kyle, and so
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: I mean they deserve to win, you know, for sure
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: they deserved it. And then yeah, and then Brand's team
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: was Shaheen, Say, Justin, and David hilarious enough, David and
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: Shaheen were your too strongest, yeah players on your team.
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't disagree.
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: I think if I, obviously, if I don't pick Say
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: and I picked Kyle, this is a different ballgame, obviously.
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: But Say's kind of the pick there that just doesn't
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: quite It doesn't make.
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: It a a really as well rounded of a team as.
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: And Justin who went home so early. Yeah, that's just hard.
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: But I can't even get mad at the Justin pick.
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: I can't get mad.
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: At because that was an all time Survivor moment that
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: had never really happened right that way before. It was insane. So,
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, you have a very memorable team, I'll give
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: you that.
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying to like, I'm just like, I can't
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: believe in that pick. Kyle.
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: Me too, man, I had Mary and Thomas as my
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: first two picks, and I could have picked Kyle for
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: in either of that spot and it would have been.
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: Sometimes he tried to get cute with it, you know,
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: and just like just pick, just pick the best player
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: on the board, you know.
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I thought I thought that Thomas was that
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: what's crazy? So guys, looking back at our draft from
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: after the season, it definitely hindsight is twenty twenty. But
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: it is very interesting to look at how wrong me
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: and Bran in particular were. But let's hear from the
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: guy who had a great team but he did not
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: win this season.
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: That's right, PD, go ahead. I didn't mean I was.
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: Just cueuing you up. PD sent us a voice memo,
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: let's hear it.
• 57:13
  Speaker 5: Hello, Brand, Chase, and maybe Jonathan. Nope, knock knock, not
• 57:19
  Speaker 5: me the classic anyway.
• 57:22
  Speaker 4: Just wanted to get on here and say Camilla is
• 57:24
  Speaker 4: definitely one of the greatest players I've ever drafted.
• 57:27
  Speaker 5: It's why it took her first.
• 57:28
  Speaker 4: I had a good feeling it turned out to be right,
• 57:31
  Speaker 4: even though Brand had her pretty low on his board. Yeah,
• 57:35
  Speaker 4: she's a great player. And we've teased naming our teams.
• 57:38
  Speaker 4: I think I should name my team that should have won,
• 57:40
  Speaker 4: because Camilla should have won. If she had made the fire,
• 57:43
  Speaker 4: she would have won. Charlie, he should have won. Maria
• 57:47
  Speaker 4: was bitter and then in season forty seven. We all
• 57:50
  Speaker 4: know seuss May should have won. She would have beat
• 57:53
  Speaker 4: all their asses. She said it, and it should have happened.
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: The jury just didn't know what was going on that season.
• 57:59
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 58:00
  Speaker 4: The other thing I want to talk about is that
• 58:04
  Speaker 4: I in the last episode said that D was an
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: outspoken Puerto Rican woman. I was corrected on this one
• 58:11
  Speaker 4: of our little mergies, Carly.
• 58:13
  Speaker 5: She let me know D is in fact Cuban.
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: Oh you see what he was.
• 58:21
  Speaker 4: At one point I had seen a picture of D
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: at jam Jams Hair salon in Puerto Rico, and she like,
• 58:28
  Speaker 4: I think the caption was just a picture of a
• 58:30
  Speaker 4: Puerto Rican flag, and then I took that.
• 58:33
  Speaker 5: I took that to mean that they were both from
• 58:36
  Speaker 5: Puerto Rico.
• 58:37
  Speaker 4: And see, this is a good lesson about not making assumptions.
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: I want to.
• 58:42
  Speaker 5: Apologize to D.
• 58:44
  Speaker 4: And I hope that my praise for D over the
• 58:47
  Speaker 4: past few seasons, and like the couple of seasons we've
• 58:51
  Speaker 4: done this podcast, I praise D constantly.
• 58:53
  Speaker 5: I hope that makes up for it.
• 58:55
  Speaker 4: You know, I understand that simple minded Jabroni's like Chase,
• 59:00
  Speaker 4: they don't really comprehend the game that D played. It
• 59:03
  Speaker 4: kind of like, I think, kind of flew over Chase's
• 59:05
  Speaker 4: head a little bit, and that's why he doesn't understand
• 59:08
  Speaker 4: why she was such a great.
• 59:09
  Speaker 5: Winner and everything. But yeah, have fun with the rest
• 59:12
  Speaker 5: of the podcast.
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: PD out Okay, not me, good job. PD texted me.
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: He was like, hey, Hope, I don't make you go
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: on a rant after my voice memo.
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: Dude, don't fall for it, Chase, Dude, d PD.
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: I think truly believes that d is a really awesome winner.
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: And I'm not taking away the fact that she deserved
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: to win her season. She did. She deserved to win
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: that season. She's not the most dominant way, like when
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: he said that she's better than Boston.
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: Rocha, you're falling for it. Don't fall for it. Is
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: only only PD.
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: Can come out and admit that he's a racist and
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: Chase ends up going on a rant. Don't fall for it.
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: Let PD just sit in his racism and like, just
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: let that happen.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: Let that you're my counselor you're my counselor I'm gonna
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: listen to you. I'm just gonna say one thing. I'm
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: just gonna say one thing. D's win is very similar
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: to if Joe won this season, that's all I'll say.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: That's all I'll say. People would have been upset. They
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: would have thought it was boring, they wouldn't think it
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: was that dominant winner. That's almost say it's almost it's
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: almost a saying okay.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: All right, fair enough, fair enough. I want to close
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: with this.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: Okay, some I don't know if you saw this, but
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: Jeffrey posted a video after I think it was the
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: first or second day of filming fifty, and he talks
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: about how he's excited about it and blah blah blah.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: You've seen a jeff video before, you know how it is.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: I understand we still got forty nine to worry about here,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: but what are you what could really make fifty?
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: What needs to happen early on in fifty for it
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: to live up to the hype.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: I think we need to see like big moves immediately.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: I know we're gonna get what we always kind of
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: get in that first episode, and that's cool with me.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna complain. I think if this is gonna
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: be a legendary season, we need to see somebody like
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: winning a shot in the dark. Episode one, first tribal
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: playing an idol. Immediately something crazy. There's something crazy, and
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: because that's the thing about what makes a good Survivor season.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: It's not necessarily about like everybody playing super good strategically,
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: because Joe and Eva and Kyle and then played an
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: amazing strategic game, but it bored the audience a lot.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: It's about excitement. That's what makes a good season. And
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: so I think we want to see people making big
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: moves right off the bat. I want to see old
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: returning players interacting with New Era players. I want to
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: see Joe and his honor and integrity go up against
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: someone who is willing to slit throats to win this game,
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: like I want to. That's what I want to see.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: You know, I'm thinking about this a lot as I'm
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 3: watching through the seasons, and I think, what would make
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: Season fifty really pop, And that's in the premiere, is
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: if unlike New Era starting off with let's all walk
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: onto the beach, do a little interview, talk about who
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 3: we are, and then go into an obstacle course, what
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 3: if we kick at old school and we do a marooning,
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: we do a good old fashioned get off of a boat.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: Part of the challenges seeing who can get to their
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: first to get to the best camp site or whatever.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 3: Something to make it feel like, once again, this is
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: a celebration of fifty seasons. Let's let's do a little
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: something different.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: I I'm not this like old era apologist by any means, right, right, right,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: but I do think if we start fifty and it
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: feels exactly like forty nine, you know, and I'll take
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 3: I agree, I want it to feel at least like
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: a little nod to the old school, a little.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: Something different to make it feel like, you know what,
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: these this this show, We're.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 3: Gonna do a lot of different things here. That's gonna
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: be a lot of kind of try to take in
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: a lot of the influence from a lot of different seasons.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 3: We cannot just start with an obstacle, course, we gotta
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: we gotta do something that makes it really really pop
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: and separate itself at least from the previous nine seasons.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: One.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you, dude, I agree with you.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: I I'm really rooting it for it to be two
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: tribes instead of three Old Era versus New Era. That's
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: kind of what I would really like to see. But
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: also if it is three tribes, maybe we see a
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: thing where they pick try they pick their own tribes
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: like how they've done before. I love that.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: No, I really like.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: The starting start, like the the idea of starting as
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: two tribes and then it splits into three with a
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: school yard pick.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: I really like that. I think it gives you this
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: old air and new era.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: We get one episode to see how those two kind
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: of compete against each other and then make them drop
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: your gup, drop your gufs, drop your buffs.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: This is the new new game. Schooard schooyard, pick them.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: I like that a lot.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and even because I understand a lot of the
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: repetition of the New Era is due to, hey, we
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: don't have as big of a budget, but with season
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: fifth its season fifty and you don't even have to
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: it's not even the repetition, Like, I'm cool if it's
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: the same kind of like the obstacles, we go from
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: three tribes to two tribes with a swap, Like, I'm
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: fine with all of that. Just row in some crazy stuff,
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: make it a little exciting.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: I think that's that's the thing.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: Like I like, I like New Era Survivor. There is
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 3: something too. As I'm watching through the show era, like
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: there's just like a question like you never.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: Quite know what's gonna happen.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: You never quite know when the merge is gonna be.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 3: You never quite know if they're going to do a
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: merge swap if one tribe gets too uh too low
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 3: in players, like you never quite know, And Jeff loves
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: to say on the on Fire podcast, Uh, you know,
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 3: what we've done in the past is not necessarily an
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: indication of what we're gonna do, Like.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: Okay, prove it, let's let's yeah, let's see it.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: Let's do something new, or let's do something that we
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: haven't done in a long time, or something like that
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: to make it feel like, oh.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: This is a different this is something special.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just just something you need. I think you're absolutely okay.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: Is that it for this episode?
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: That's it, dude. I don't think they're gonna disappoint us.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go on record, it's gonna be the best
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: season ever.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 3: Dude, best season ever. We're gonna be back later this
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 3: week with another episode.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: It's gonna be a special episode.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we're not allowed to say, we're not allowed
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: to say what it is yet. But there's a guest
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: that's all I say.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: It's Chase's cousin, who cause.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: Oh man. Thank you guys so much for listening. It's
• 1:06:30
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• 1:06:35
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• 1:06:38
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• 1:06:46
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• 1:06:56
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• 1:06:58
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• 1:07:00
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• 1:07:01
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