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SPECIAL EPISODE! Stop Trembling. Start Changing: The Elul Reset You Actually Need | Rabbi Hillel Eisenberg · The Weekly Parsha - With Michoel Brooke

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SPEAKER_00: Welcome into the Motivation Congregation Studios on a 9 p.m., 9 10 p.m.
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SPEAKER_00: on a Wednesday evening.
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SPEAKER_00: We have an extra special guest here this evening.
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SPEAKER_00: He's someone that is a living Jewish superstar.
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SPEAKER_00: He's the up-and-coming talent that most of you know.
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SPEAKER_00: And if some of you don't know, you can Google him on your kosher phones and figure out who he is.
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SPEAKER_00: But his name is none other than Rabbi Hillel Eisenberg.
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SPEAKER_00: He's actually an old friend of mine and he's an impressive person beyond.
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SPEAKER_00: When I think of young up-and-coming um Bene Aliyah and motivational speakers, I think of him.
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SPEAKER_00: Rabbi Eisenberg, welcome into the motivation congregation.
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SPEAKER_00: It's a pleasure to be here.
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SPEAKER_00: It's a pleasure.
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SPEAKER_00: Do you know that when I say Rabbi Isenberg, I actually think more of your uh favorite brother who is the chief rabbi of Norfolk, Virginia, where I'm from?
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SPEAKER_00: Are you aware of that?
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SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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SPEAKER_01: Yes, they recently told me.
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SPEAKER_01: Although he's been there for many years, they recently told me.
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SPEAKER_00: Did did you tell him that you're gonna come into the motivation congregation?
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SPEAKER_00: Did you not tell him?
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SPEAKER_00: I did not yet tell him, no.
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SPEAKER_00: You're are you closer to your brother?
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SPEAKER_00: Yes, sure.
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SPEAKER_00: Do you know that your brother is is is taking the Norfolk community and wrapped it up into this beautiful package and taking it to spiritual heights like never before?
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SPEAKER_00: I've heard such echoes.
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SPEAKER_00: I've heard echoes of such things.
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SPEAKER_00: You've been you've been to the community.
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SPEAKER_00: You see what's going on down in the region.
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SPEAKER_00: I think it's great.
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SPEAKER_00: And here it's a model community.
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SPEAKER_00: Before we oh wow.
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SPEAKER_00: Great.
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SPEAKER_00: Now paying those bills, taking care of the sponsors.
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SPEAKER_00: Hello.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh maybe tell the listeners about like 70 seconds to 90 seconds about who you are, where you are.
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SPEAKER_00: I know you, but picture you're explaining your hectic schedule on what you do for your nine to five to someone who just met you.
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SPEAKER_01: Go.
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SPEAKER_01: That's a good question.
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SPEAKER_01: Um what I do or where am I my background?
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SPEAKER_00: I want everything.
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SPEAKER_00: Where were you born?
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SPEAKER_00: What do you do?
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SPEAKER_00: What do you do during the day so people know exactly who you are?
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SPEAKER_00: Everything about you.
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SPEAKER_01: So I'm originally from Rochester, New York.
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SPEAKER_01: Way, way up where penguins roam the earth.
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SPEAKER_01: And I was sent at age 13 to Neri Stroll in Baltimore, where I learned for many years.
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SPEAKER_01: Sounds like against your wills.
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SPEAKER_01: No, no, no.
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SPEAKER_01: It was definitely willingly camp.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: And there I learned.
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SPEAKER_01: I got a little glimpse of the brisker Mahalakhanarsi Strull learning by Ravmoisha Salovechik for a year, and then I came to Lakewood, where I was pretty much like everyone else for a while, um, until I stumbled into an office once where there was a man by the name of Aaron Grossman who runs an organization called JX Jewish Experience, which basically is involved in all key roof operations in the Northeast.
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SPEAKER_01: And he said, You want to be a guinea pig?
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SPEAKER_01: I'm like, What?
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SPEAKER_01: He's like, Yeah, you could I think you can be a guinea pig.
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SPEAKER_01: I was like, I don't know what you're talking about.
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SPEAKER_01: So to boil it down briefly, they were looking for somebody to go to Princeton University, which is drivable.
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SPEAKER_01: And it piqued my interest because I wasn't so interested in going roller skating with college kids and drinking and whatever.
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SPEAKER_01: It's very high level.
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SPEAKER_01: So basically the smartest kids in the world are learning there.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Ivy League, right?
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's an Ivy League.
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SPEAKER_01: And it offered me the opportunity to start giving classes there.
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SPEAKER_01: So I jumped at that.
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SPEAKER_01: And that sort of opened up my my career in giving classes and speeches.
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SPEAKER_01: Eventually I left after Princeton.
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SPEAKER_01: I was there for around a year.
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SPEAKER_01: I eventually left.
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SPEAKER_01: And you're living in Lakewood and driving every day to Princeton.
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SPEAKER_01: But it's no, it's like 45 minutes.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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SPEAKER_01: It wasn't every day.
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SPEAKER_01: It was, you know, a couple times a week.
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SPEAKER_01: We would go for Shabbos, we would have an apartment there, we would make Shabbas, and we all have to married.
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SPEAKER_01: You're married.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, I'm married at this point.
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SPEAKER_01: Obviously, we have all sorts of fascinating, colorful characters we've met and professors we've got to know and friends we've made.
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SPEAKER_01: And and it was an amazing experience.
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SPEAKER_01: Um I actually have made many videos about my experience in Princeton, which we could talk about those.
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SPEAKER_01: Definitely will uh shortly.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, for the most part, I'm doing a lot of writing, um, a lot of podcasting, a lot of interviewing, a lot of uh video making.
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SPEAKER_01: You're crushing a lot of projects.
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SPEAKER_00: I've read he's being humble.
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SPEAKER_00: I've read The Parish on Fire, which is his uh Magnum opus and bestseller.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we have others up and coming through Art Scroll, luckily.
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SPEAKER_01: It takes a little bit longer when you deal with the unbelievable.
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SPEAKER_01: Um I'll tell you well, let's talk about that because I think that actually is inspiring for a lot of people.
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SPEAKER_01: Probably in 10th grade, I started collecting what I called interesting ideas.
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SPEAKER_01: Now everyone has a different definition of interesting ideas, but they were interesting to me.
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SPEAKER_01: And I would have a little notebook that I kept in my pocket and a pen and paper.
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SPEAKER_01: But I didn't limit it to like my Rebbe said an interesting shot.
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SPEAKER_01: It was like I passed by a billboard and it had an interesting statistic.
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SPEAKER_01: I wrote it down, and I had absolutely no idea why.
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SPEAKER_01: I just did it.
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SPEAKER_01: I was collecting.
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SPEAKER_01: And then every Mozze Shabbos, I would take that notebook and organize it into different categories.
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SPEAKER_01: I liked it, I was I'm a Yeckee and I liked being organized.
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SPEAKER_01: I knew in the back of my head that I would be in some form of Klay Kai de Shinchinoch.
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SPEAKER_01: Did I know I would be, you know.
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SPEAKER_01: Doing what you're doing?
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SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_01: You know, I knew that I there's no way to know at age 15 you're gonna be I spoke at a hotel program at age 25.
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SPEAKER_01: Was there any way I would know that?
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SPEAKER_01: No, of course not.
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SPEAKER_01: But I knew I it would be good for me to have that uh, you know, idea.
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SPEAKER_01: Information was gonna help you somewhere.
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SPEAKER_01: Right.
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SPEAKER_01: So two things happened because I did that.
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SPEAKER_01: Number one, fast forward to 25 when I'm beginning sort of my career in giving over and speaking and classes and writing.
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SPEAKER_01: Number one, I have an arsenal that's categorized.
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SPEAKER_01: So that helps a lot.
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SPEAKER_01: But way, way more importantly is I've trained my eyes to look at the world as a world that's talking to me, a world filled with messages.
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SPEAKER_01: Every single billboard I could make an hour speech about.
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SPEAKER_01: Every single one.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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SPEAKER_01: Coke, even Coke.
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SPEAKER_01: Everything.
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SPEAKER_01: Every single time I go into the store, I walk out with a mushroom that I could give a 45-minute lecture about.
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SPEAKER_01: Unbelievable.
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SPEAKER_01: Why?
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SPEAKER_01: Not because I'm anything special, just because if you train your brain to filter the world through the lens of it's talking to you and there's a mushroom and an imchel.
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SPEAKER_01: Do you still have that notebook?
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SPEAKER_00: I have 10,000 of those such notebooks.
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SPEAKER_00: How large is the is it really 10,000?
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SPEAKER_00: How big is the notebook?
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SPEAKER_00: It's huge.
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SPEAKER_00: No, no, no.
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SPEAKER_01: It's it's it's it's like you buy in.
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SPEAKER_01: Sticky notes, something not sticky notes, no miniature, like flip-over notebooks, but I went through thousands of them.
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SPEAKER_01: And I still do it.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't do it through notebooks.
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SPEAKER_01: I, you know, I could just voice note it into my whatever and and filter it.
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SPEAKER_01: And I encourage anyone to write things down you never know, even if one is not going into Harbat's Therna.
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SPEAKER_01: I think it's hugely pathetic if somebody is 40 and sits in the sukkah and he has nothing to say.
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SPEAKER_01: Uh-huh.
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SPEAKER_01: It's it has to scramble during Mariv to a safer to look up something.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh, come on, dad.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Find something.
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SPEAKER_00: And even not in Torah, in anything that you're doing.
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SPEAKER_00: If you want to be great at it, take notes about things, be smart, be worldly, be educated, and certainly with Tyra, where you're obligated.
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SPEAKER_00: Come on.
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SPEAKER_00: What was your big break?
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SPEAKER_01: Great question.
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SPEAKER_01: So there's a good there's a line I like out there.
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SPEAKER_01: It's from the notebook.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't know if it's from the notebook, but the line is that it takes 20 years of practice to become an overnight success.
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SPEAKER_01: Steve Jobs.
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SPEAKER_01: Steve Jobs?
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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SPEAKER_01: Apple Apple took 20 years of uh to become an overnight.
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SPEAKER_01: So there was no real brink.
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SPEAKER_01: What it was is I got a call from a shoal in Aberdeen, which is 45 minutes from here.
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SPEAKER_01: We have a Thursday night Mishmar program.
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SPEAKER_01: People from the community come.
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SPEAKER_01: Can you give a little half hour speech?
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SPEAKER_01: It's largely senior citizens, immensely unthreatening.
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SPEAKER_01: And I would go a lot and I would polish myself there.
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SPEAKER_01: Um in every audience you'll be in or you speak to, there is someone in the audience who's connected to somebody who makes a phone call and says this guy is great.
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SPEAKER_01: So that's what happens.
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SPEAKER_01: Someone made a phone call to someone who said, This show's looking.
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SPEAKER_01: Can you come and speak?
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SPEAKER_01: And that was it.
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SPEAKER_01: Somebody made a phone call.
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SPEAKER_01: It happens to be.
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SPEAKER_01: Now, I obviously I've I've worked on myself and and and it's I believe with good content.
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SPEAKER_01: But there's not that much competition.
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SPEAKER_01: And I know it sounds crazy.
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SPEAKER_01: What are you talking about?
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SPEAKER_01: There's that's scramble.
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SPEAKER_01: I will prove this to you.
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SPEAKER_01: I was I've been doing hotel programs for quite some time.
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SPEAKER_01: And one recently, I think it was last Sucus, we just wanted to take a break.
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SPEAKER_01: Like we wanted to be part of our family.
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SPEAKER_01: And I had to decline an offer.
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SPEAKER_01: And they said, okay, fine, no problem.
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SPEAKER_01: Can you find a replacement?
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SPEAKER_01: Can you find it has to be someone who can't take up like nine rooms, you know what I mean?
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SPEAKER_01: Like we're not moving by friends, entire family.
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SPEAKER_01: It has to be someone who's, you know, relatively young, but dynamic and passion and gets it, and with it, like we have already the old sage.
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SPEAKER_01: We're looking for the youthful young guy who's with it, but like Gushmak and unapologetically tyrodic.
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SPEAKER_01: I said, well, let me find it.
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SPEAKER_01: I start calling people.
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SPEAKER_01: No one's either lack of interest, lack of confidence, lack of skill.
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SPEAKER_01: Really?
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SPEAKER_01: I don't want them.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm not sure.
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SPEAKER_01: My wife.
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SPEAKER_01: I thought I would get like this.
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SPEAKER_00: This is this is a thousand speakers until anytime.
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SPEAKER_00: Just go through.
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SPEAKER_00: No?
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, I mean it had to be someone within the tricid area.
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SPEAKER_01: And it had to be they were looking for somebody who could only take up one or two rooms.
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SPEAKER_01: Right.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, younger guy.
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SPEAKER_01: So it had to be a younger guy.
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SPEAKER_01: But but I was talking forgettable.
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SPEAKER_01: Speaker, I thought in Lakewood, like they would this would this is a this is a career-altering opportunity.
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SPEAKER_01: But um I was saddened a little bit that it there wasn't that much interest.
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SPEAKER_01: But I I was also encouraged that those that are doing this work, first of all, need to step up and do it, continue more.
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SPEAKER_01: The younger, more worldly people who are unapologetically tyrodic, who can speak eloquently, have a tremendous ahrise in today's and age.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, as the more Yeshivish people get more yeshivish, and the rest of Cholesterol get either less yeshivish or stay the same, there's gonna be a void of leaders who can you know speak eye to eye to the sort of hamunam.
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SPEAKER_00: Um so I I it it's it's also I don't think people understand that it is you'll you'll correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you'll agree that when you go out and you speak and you are interested in helping and sharing, you the person who gains the most is you yourself.
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SPEAKER_00: Do you do you not find yourself because you have to come up with something to say or you're interested in it, and it becomes something that you have to share that now your mind gets lost in in positive Torah concepts, right?
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SPEAKER_00: And you're every person, I got this advice from Rabbi Walby when I said I wanted to start a podcast, and it's totally free to start a podcast.
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SPEAKER_00: And my wife and my mom are the only two that listen, but but he told me, remembered, it's only for the most, it's most helpful for you.
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SPEAKER_00: You're gonna gain the most when you have to come up with something to say, you you now have to crystallize the Vart, the idea, and say it and prepare it, and it's not abstract, especially now that it's so simple and it's free.
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SPEAKER_00: There used to be gatekeepers.
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SPEAKER_00: There used to be gatekeepers in that in order to get a gig at to speak in a shoal, you had to be a magged or you had to travel.
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SPEAKER_00: You can literally put your airpods on and you can record yourself and you could send a WhatsApp voice note and you can help someone and you can provide value, right?
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SPEAKER_00: It's totally free.
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SPEAKER_00: It's totally no question.
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SPEAKER_00: Um okay, so now you got your big break.
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SPEAKER_00: You travel the world now.
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SPEAKER_00: What do you do?
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SPEAKER_00: What's your nine to five?
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SPEAKER_00: Talk to me.
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SPEAKER_00: Tell the people the truth.
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SPEAKER_00: Tell the people the truth.
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SPEAKER_00: Because you're in Princeton.
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SPEAKER_00: Um there's so many facets here.
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SPEAKER_00: What do you do?
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SPEAKER_00: You wake up in the morning, it's Monday at 9 a.m.
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SPEAKER_00: You drop the kids off at Mora.
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SPEAKER_01: So unless your wife drops the kids off at Mora.
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SPEAKER_01: At this exact uh moment, I basically work on books and videos and interviewing people and podcasts and films.
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SPEAKER_00: Full-time content creator distributor, which is what everybody wants to do.
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SPEAKER_01: Inspirational videos.
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SPEAKER_01: So for example, Art School is putting out a book.
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SPEAKER_01: They will hire me.
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SPEAKER_01: They just hired me today.
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SPEAKER_01: Wow, congratulations.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, no, no, no.
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SPEAKER_01: I didn't mean they hired me today, meaning they hire me for it's an ongoing, meaning they will call me up and say we're putting out a new book.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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SPEAKER_01: And they had an in-house meeting and realized with their actuaries that they're putting out ads, full-page ads, in every newspaper in the Jewish world.
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SPEAKER_01: It costs hundreds of thousands of dollars per week.
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SPEAKER_01: If we pay Hillel Eisenberg 250 bucks to make take one story out of one chapter of an upcoming book and have a little bit of AI or a little code, a little video, a little graphics.
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SPEAKER_01: And it could be free.
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SPEAKER_01: It's the free page.
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SPEAKER_00: So they they shifted a lot towards that.
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SPEAKER_00: I've been a big believer in that, in that in that um digital advertising is way undervalued.
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SPEAKER_00: And um and picture graphic in magazines and paper is terrifically overpriced.
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SPEAKER_00: Um anyway, I'm glad to hear that that the big companies see that.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they definitely the organizations are leaning in that direction more and more.
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SPEAKER_00: So that takes up you know, so that's so you're you're in the morning, you go to your study and start plugging away, opening the notebook.
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SPEAKER_00: Right, right.
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SPEAKER_01: I mean, there's a lot of like learning that has to be done for some of the books that I'm writing.
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SPEAKER_01: You need to prepare.
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SPEAKER_01: Right, right.
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SPEAKER_01: I mean, uh a lot of the books that I'm writing are challeng are are are addressing sort of the basics of the moyadim, but delivering and packaging the explanations in a digestible, entertaining way.
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SPEAKER_01: Beautiful.
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SPEAKER_01: Um so you you gotta really be well versed in you know morale and repears and the basics.
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SPEAKER_01: Is he my rehearsal section?
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SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean we could go, we could we could have a whole podcast about reperse.
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SPEAKER_00: We have up there, we should, by the way.
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SPEAKER_00: I have the I have the old Isaac Levy translation.
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SPEAKER_00: I have I have the new one just because the new red leather is so beautiful and delicious, even though I like the old edition.
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SPEAKER_00: And then I have um well this one is is is the one that's out.
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SPEAKER_00: But then I have my Maural over here in the corner.
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SPEAKER_00: I got that as a anniversary present.
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SPEAKER_00: Nice.
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SPEAKER_00: So so so you know, you know, I'm pretty I'm pretty bullish and a little a little uh laccubrous in my uh Swarm collection.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's great.
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SPEAKER_00: But everyone's got a we'll do a Hirsch episode.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh so that those are your go-to.
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SPEAKER_00: If you're preparing a share, you go to Maur or Hirsch.
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SPEAKER_01: I have yeah, I mean in the introduction to m the first book that I wrote, The Parsh on Fire, I I talk about how Rib Hirsch totally transformed the way I look at at Tyra.
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SPEAKER_01: We could talk at length about how he completely transformed for thousands of people, um, how to look at Tyra and Yiddishkeit.
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SPEAKER_01: And I think that ironically, his message is just as needed now as it was in Germany when he was giving it, because the same exact struggles that his community, the affluent, w overly educated, slightly egotistical Germans that were looking at the Taira as ancient and dinosaur, we on a smaller scale are starting to do that.
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SPEAKER_01: We have money, we have we're all technology, like way overly educated, we know everything.
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SPEAKER_01: And so the taira is like, uh whatever.
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SPEAKER_01: Maybe you say a good word, you have a gummatri.
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SPEAKER_00: Right.
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SPEAKER_00: Right.
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SPEAKER_01: And even in even like Yeshiva should people like the Tara is something you you learn, but it doesn't like shape how you raise your like isn't it isn't like uh you don't stand in the kitchen and and and then the philosophy.
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SPEAKER_00: You're right.
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SPEAKER_00: No, you're totally right.
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SPEAKER_00: Obviously, I'm over exaggerating.
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SPEAKER_00: No, you're totally right.
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SPEAKER_00: There's so much it Talmud is maybe de maissa.
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SPEAKER_00: And that means that your study leads to action.
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SPEAKER_00: And if your study isn't a passionate, um impressive, not impressive, like fancy, but impressive, meaning it's impressing upon you into mice, then you have to question if it's really Talmud.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, 100%.
17:59
SPEAKER_00: 100%.
17:59
SPEAKER_01: Um listen, some people don't are are in it, like there's a reason Rab Hirsch's volume on Vyikra is like double the size of every other one, because every detail of every cardbone is really uh Hashem conveying some message, and I'm a big believer in that.
18:17
SPEAKER_01: So every Khilach of the Mayyadim, which I'm writing a book on, Mayyadim on fire, also on fire is a message, and like every chilik, every every halakh of Hilchuschach is another message Hashem is sending.
18:31
SPEAKER_00: Some of you believe in that.
18:33
SPEAKER_00: I love it.
18:34
SPEAKER_00: And what I called you here this evening to discuss with you is very much touching on what we're talking about now, in that Torah in a sad way for people has become antiquated, and the they understand it as an old textbook, and then what happens and gets worse for some is that they can become sarcastic with the catchetisms of the yeshiva world about El, and that becomes almost something that's unrelatable and only reminds them that the fish in Calmwood quake during Ell, but yet that only sometimes gets us further away from any sort of radical honesty of what El is supposed to be.
19:26
SPEAKER_00: I would like tonight in the next five minutes to change that.
19:31
SPEAKER_00: Now that's a little bit audacious, but but but to have a conversation about how you think that you see Ell or a way that someone should see Ell if Rehearsh is here and he wanted to walk in and clap down his hand and say to the holy congregation of the motivation congregation and anyone else who's gonna listen to this what Ell is about?
19:57
SPEAKER_00: Let's ask it like this for you, when you hear the words El, does that send chills down your spine or make it exciting for you?
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21:28
SPEAKER_01: I wish I could say that Ill Ell sends Zills down my spine.
21:32
SPEAKER_01: Um it does not, but I hope to get there one day.
21:37
SPEAKER_01: Um or not.
21:38
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I'm not sure it's a good thing.
21:39
SPEAKER_01: I can't speak for Rab Cham Chinfall Hirsch.
21:43
SPEAKER_01: Um, what I could say is I I do have many, many various videos on Ell.
21:48
SPEAKER_01: I encourage people to watch them.
21:49
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21:54
SPEAKER_01: I personally think they're very refreshing.
21:56
SPEAKER_01: But I I can tell you the immediate knee jerk reaction when it comes to Ell.
22:00
SPEAKER_01: Are is that it is it has become immensely, immensely overly complicated.
22:07
SPEAKER_01: And what once was supposed to be a sort of r practical reset to Yervoid the Sashem has become a a very, very daunting, spiritually kind of complicated, exhausting.
22:22
SPEAKER_01: And and sadly, when you are in Yeshiva, and uh depending on which school you go to, the speeches you hear are often vague ideas about Yuras Harimamus.
22:33
SPEAKER_01: And I think that those are all important, and Yurashamayim and Kabbalah so Machoshamaim, and those are all important things, and they're they're lofty and they're great.
22:41
SPEAKER_01: But I I think that it's sort of ignoring the largest, most obvious need during El, and that is, are you doing shuva?
22:52
SPEAKER_01: Not are you learning how to do chuva, not are you learning Hilchas Chuva, not are you learning inspiration to be to do chuva?
22:58
SPEAKER_01: Not are you hearing lectures which are going to motivate you to do chuva?
23:00
SPEAKER_01: No, no, are you actually doing shuva?
23:02
SPEAKER_01: Which means very simply, did you take out a paper and a pen and write down what you need to work on, but not just what?
23:13
SPEAKER_01: Why is that a vera recurring in your life?
23:17
SPEAKER_01: Or why don't you do XYZ?
23:20
SPEAKER_01: Not just the what, but the why.
23:21
SPEAKER_01: First address the what, because you cannot fix a problem that you don't know you have or you don't harp on.
23:25
SPEAKER_01: It's not possible.
23:26
SPEAKER_01: You could you could you could learn all the mode, you could listen to every shear ever given on in on Tfila, every inspiring shear.
23:33
SPEAKER_01: But unless you know what the words are saying, eventually you will just the inspiration will go away and it will revert back to being the Chinese that it is.
23:42
SPEAKER_01: So unless if you want a real connection to Silichos, so then open up an English translation and preferably a good peer-ish that you relate to, that's the only way.
23:51
SPEAKER_01: Like no inspiring motivational speaker is going to help you out any more than you.
23:56
SPEAKER_01: If you want to work on Lush and Hara, well then write down which cubicles are speaking Lash and Hara in your company and avoid that.
24:04
SPEAKER_01: Meaning, here's a practical Aitza.
24:07
SPEAKER_01: The practical side of Thuva has been completely lost because it doesn't give you brownie points and it doesn't sound cool for a rev to talk about it.
24:15
SPEAKER_01: But truva is in its simplest form becoming a better person.
24:18
SPEAKER_01: You cannot go to the mechanic and expect him to fix your car by just pouring over a manual.
24:24
SPEAKER_01: He has to eventually, at a certain point, roll up his sleeves and pick up the hood and fix the car.
24:29
SPEAKER_01: It is the same thing.
24:30
SPEAKER_01: It's a remarkable thing.
24:31
SPEAKER_01: It's the same thing with human beings.
24:32
SPEAKER_01: If you want a better Shabbos, so then write down why is Shabbos stale?
24:37
SPEAKER_01: What are potential practical ideas to make it less stale?
24:41
SPEAKER_01: One of them would be read a lot more books about Shabbos.
24:43
SPEAKER_01: Number two, why are you get upset?
24:46
SPEAKER_01: Is it too hectic?
24:47
SPEAKER_01: Well, then you have to come home an hour early from Friday or whatever.
24:50
SPEAKER_01: Hire more cleaning costs.
24:51
SPEAKER_01: My my point is if we train our brain to think practically, so one second, all of a sudden it's less daunting because, like every company in the world, we they have a rehash, they have a resent every year.
25:03
SPEAKER_01: They go through.
25:04
SPEAKER_01: It's not so daunting.
25:05
SPEAKER_01: Like it's an audit, right?
25:07
SPEAKER_01: An audit.
25:08
SPEAKER_01: It's not, it's it shouldn't be scary.
25:11
SPEAKER_01: Practical Thuva is the bare minimum, is the starting point.
25:16
SPEAKER_01: Oh, practical things.
25:17
SPEAKER_01: I could I could write down what I need to work on.
25:19
SPEAKER_01: I could think of ideas, I could think of why this is the why, and then perhaps implement some of the things.
25:26
SPEAKER_01: I think that's that's very underrated.
25:29
SPEAKER_00: It I think it it's it's underrated.
25:31
SPEAKER_00: It is so deceptively simple that maybe this is too uh not cliche, or maybe it's too radical, but or maybe not true, but you'll be the judge of that.
25:47
SPEAKER_00: Sometimes I feel that people will surplant actual becoming better and closer to God with the Limudham sir and getting stuck in the consistent concept of greatness and thought and before they ever actually just do something and and actually get a change and and like you're saying, it it's it's simple to actually it's har it's hard, but it's really we put on a bumper sticker one time for a motivation congregation ad that said the best way to start is to start.
26:27
SPEAKER_00: You just do it, it's that simple.
26:29
SPEAKER_00: What's the biggest misunderstanding that you think people have about chuva?
26:33
SPEAKER_01: I believe it's from Nassen Wachtvogel who said that v that the the virtual universal knee-jerk reaction to chuva and to Ell is to focus on your flaws and to look at all the Averis that you did.
26:48
SPEAKER_01: And we go through every mincha and we like start asking, like, wow, I dab in 365 minhas.
26:53
SPEAKER_01: I can't even remember one that I come on, maybe it's two.
26:59
SPEAKER_01: But he says something fascinating.
27:02
SPEAKER_01: It's a mistake.
27:03
SPEAKER_01: He says the Avaida of Ell is not Sormeira, the Avaida of Ell is Asai Taif.
27:10
SPEAKER_01: We never, never think of Ell as wait, let me do more Piker Khailim.
27:15
SPEAKER_01: Let me do more Levi SMAs, let me do more in Stocker.
27:19
SPEAKER_01: Totally.
27:20
SPEAKER_00: Always, it's always eyes glued to only good things and make sure never to wake up late.
27:25
SPEAKER_00: And it's always a Surmeira in my head.
27:27
SPEAKER_00: You're right.
27:28
SPEAKER_01: Always a Surmeira.
27:29
SPEAKER_01: The knee-jerk reaction of anyone, anywhere in the world is Surmeira.
27:32
SPEAKER_01: I say too much Slash N Hara.
27:34
SPEAKER_01: I look at things I shouldn't look at.
27:35
SPEAKER_01: I eat things I shouldn't.
27:37
SPEAKER_01: It's always sort of like what the non-Jewish world looks at in a New Year's resolution is I'm too fat, I I've had too many issues with my girlfriend, or whatever the issue is, I should realize that.
27:48
SPEAKER_01: And Rub Nussin was saying it shouldn't be that way.
27:53
SPEAKER_01: I don't know if he meant it shouldn't be that way because it becomes overly daunting, or he genuinely believed the way to get closer to Hashem, or a way, or the way of El is to asitive, is to let's buckle up and add another Seder during El.
28:09
SPEAKER_01: Or let's go on Fridays to visit people in Leisure Chateau or in the closest hospital near you.
28:16
SPEAKER_01: Or let's think let's do Beaker, let's invite the guests we wouldn't normally invite because they have mental health issues and it's hard and it's annoying and it's inconvenient.
28:24
SPEAKER_01: We're going to invite them anyway during El.
28:25
SPEAKER_01: Like that's never how people think, but it's a way that they should think.
28:29
SPEAKER_01: It's a lot less threatening.
28:30
SPEAKER_01: It's so not scary.
28:32
SPEAKER_01: Right.
28:32
SPEAKER_01: Right.
28:32
SPEAKER_01: It's not depressing.
28:34
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, just more assey tiv.
28:35
SPEAKER_01: Is there a time and place during Ell to work on saying not it's not saying lush, of course.
28:39
SPEAKER_01: The whole yeah, alfets are all the things that we did wrong.
28:42
SPEAKER_01: But lost in the daunting element of Ell is the assay taive, and I think that Rab Nassen was trying to bring that back.
28:51
SPEAKER_01: And I I think it's uh a great tool to fight sort of the depressing um emotional attachment that people have toward to Ell is one second, let's work on the positive, let's add stuff, let's add let's let's be kinder and nicer, and your smile should be bigger during El.
29:07
SPEAKER_00: I just love that.
29:08
SPEAKER_00: I can't tell you how much I love that because it's I feel like a big monkey has been peeled off my back.
29:13
SPEAKER_00: Like I could do a little extra learning or maybe, you know, call my mom and and or my dad and and you know, one more time during the week.
29:21
SPEAKER_00: And and that's a lot easier than having to change my nature and fight any sort of impulse that I have that is uh all right, so okay, so I'm with you.
29:31
SPEAKER_00: So we want to do asytov.
29:33
SPEAKER_00: Let's go down this rabbit hole of assey tov.
29:35
SPEAKER_00: I can't do every asseitov.
29:37
SPEAKER_00: So now I ask you the question very bluntly.
29:39
SPEAKER_00: If somebody could change one thing this owl, and it's gonna be in the form of asseitov, he can do more Torah, do more tfila, do more Achnas' Archim?
29:50
SPEAKER_00: What'd you tell him to do?
29:51
SPEAKER_00: Which assey tov to do, or should he do all of them?
29:54
SPEAKER_00: The floor is yours.
29:56
SPEAKER_01: It's a good question.
29:57
SPEAKER_01: The answer is there's obviously not one answer to to that's gonna fit everyone.
30:02
SPEAKER_01: Everyone has to know their situation in life.
30:04
SPEAKER_01: Um, I know that is not as exciting of an answer.
30:08
SPEAKER_00: You know, you want me to be like, you should do give the people what they want, give us a radical take, give us a radical take.
30:14
SPEAKER_00: Tell us that Shalua Khakan is where they should be doubling down.
30:21
SPEAKER_00: I just saw somebody actually has a gamach that you can go to his house and you can constantly shoe away the mother birds and do that mitzvah, which would which would be a nice plug to put him in here too, and then they could really double down on that on that assey tov, but uh I feel you're not gonna say that, yeah.
30:37
SPEAKER_01: Um it's important for people.
30:40
SPEAKER_01: It happens to be it would actually be detrimental if I if I would say one thing.
30:45
SPEAKER_01: And I'll tell I'll tell you why.
30:46
SPEAKER_01: I think another hugely, hugely, massively podcast worthy underrated element of Avaida's Hashem is what's called Mashalibai Khafatz.
31:00
SPEAKER_01: Khazaw were very clear that at a certain point one's Lib and Tairah has to be mashalibai chafets.
31:06
SPEAKER_01: Are there Kabbalistic reasons and deep reasons, esoteric reasons?
31:10
SPEAKER_01: Perhaps.
31:11
SPEAKER_01: But there's also a very practical reason.
31:13
SPEAKER_01: Your attachment to taira is only as much as your nishama and your brain and your upbringing allows.
31:20
SPEAKER_01: You will burn out, you will lose interest, you will not get that emotional, dare I say, spiritual Devacus connection to what you're doing if your your heart is not in it.
31:31
SPEAKER_01: You could ask anyone who went into Hatsala half-heartedly just for the hawk, it's a it's it's a killer after a year.
31:41
SPEAKER_01: It's a killer.
31:41
SPEAKER_01: I'm not waking up at two in the morning to I'm not leaving my Shabasuda because someone's having a heart attack.
31:45
SPEAKER_01: I'm not interested in it.
31:46
SPEAKER_01: And it actually pains.
31:47
SPEAKER_01: So to say this is the way is detrimental because, well, let's say somebody, somebody there, they can't host mental health crises.
31:57
SPEAKER_01: Right.
31:58
SPEAKER_00: Like they just, that's not who they are.
31:59
SPEAKER_00: And it's also interesting that many people are pulled to so many unique parts of Khalido.
32:04
SPEAKER_00: I always find it like there's platforms for someone who's totally gung-ho on like, you know, sh you know, positive speaking.
32:11
SPEAKER_00: And that's, you know, great.
32:12
SPEAKER_00: And then the chapit kaim isn't that.
32:14
SPEAKER_00: And then you're gonna also gonna have someone that's totally pro, you know, we need to go all in on Shalua Khaqan.
32:20
SPEAKER_00: We need to go all in.
32:21
SPEAKER_00: You know, you have people that are that are that are the you know, poraduma, you know, whatever they're doing, they're like all in.
32:28
SPEAKER_00: Two years ago, I met a guy named Yosef Moshe Mizrahi, great commercial, great commercial real estate agent, um, and accountant as well, great basketball player as well.
32:40
SPEAKER_00: He was involved in Tora Links.
32:42
SPEAKER_00: At Tora Lynx, he went to a Thursday night sort of Nair La LF, uh, where they brought in great speakers to empower the youth rabbinic figures to go out there and take over the world and spread God's name like a Vramavino.
32:57
SPEAKER_00: And one of the evenings it had the great Rab Shalom Kamenetsky to speak.
33:02
SPEAKER_00: And he came forward and was speaking about the idea of learning and sharing.
33:08
SPEAKER_00: And he told the following story about himself.
33:11
SPEAKER_00: He said about himself, so therefore it's not lush and hard to say the story, that when he was younger, he himself didn't even love to just learn Talmud for ten hours a day, even though his father, I believe, is a smokenetsky, and we would think that that's how everyone would grow up, probably in the lap of Torah luxury, that's you know what they live and dream about.
33:30
SPEAKER_00: But when he was younger, he was kind of more rambunctious, he was more out there, interested in playing ball, or there were different parts of Torah that he liked to study that maybe weren't Gemara.
33:42
SPEAKER_00: His mother asked him, my dear Rab Shalom, which part of Torah is your favorite?
33:49
SPEAKER_00: He said, I really like Nefeshachaim, where it talks about the interworkings of creation and of course Shar Dalid about the greatness of Torah study and how man's free will is and and Talmud Torah changes everything.
34:05
SPEAKER_00: And his mother said, Okay, I would like to pay a Khavrusa to come, and you're gonna get deep down and dirty in Nefeshakhaim.
34:14
SPEAKER_00: And he said, What happened was is that I loved it and looked forward to it, and I became so into Nefeshakhaim that I started as like an on-ramp, getting more involved in the deeper concepts, which brought me closer into wanting to learn more about Brachos and about Shabbos, which brought me back to learning Gemara, which brought me everything really pulls into the same, you know, unique aspect.
34:37
SPEAKER_00: But the the highway on to the Route 66 of Torah and Talmud study is Ma Shali Baichavit.
34:48
SPEAKER_00: You have to start with what you're interested in.
34:52
SPEAKER_00: Isn't that a fascinating story?
34:54
SPEAKER_01: Amazing.
34:54
SPEAKER_00: Amazing.
34:55
SPEAKER_00: I asked my I'm a rambunctious kid and and uh I don't like to sit and learn, but I asked my Rashishiva what I should do for Nightsader when I was after Shana Rishona, and he also told me that what you should do, whatever will keep your backside in the chair.
35:11
SPEAKER_00: So I like Khamishrashi.
35:12
SPEAKER_00: So that's what I learned.
35:13
SPEAKER_00: In my Mashali Bay Chavitz, I loved learning Nightsader, and I actually did it for still do it, because Khamishrashi is great and it's easy for me, and it's mashali by chavitz.
35:23
SPEAKER_00: So I can't be a bigger, I can't invest more in that uh topic.
35:27
SPEAKER_00: What's your mashalib chafis?
35:28
SPEAKER_00: What do you love to learn?
35:29
SPEAKER_00: Oh, I know what you love to learn.
35:30
SPEAKER_00: Probably all the what what whatever it is that you're learning and you're teaching.
35:33
SPEAKER_00: Am I wrong?
35:34
SPEAKER_01: I I happen to have lots of interests.
35:37
SPEAKER_01: Um I think that my mashalit by chafis has changed after my introduction to the world of Raphersh, because if I mean you sound like you're familiar with his Mahalik, everything becomes fascinating.
35:55
SPEAKER_01: I mean, there's no technical details.
35:57
SPEAKER_01: I used to think there's technical details.
35:58
SPEAKER_01: There's like a gatata and there's halakha.
36:00
SPEAKER_01: And agarata is interesting, and it's all these must and ideas and and and the hashkafahs of the taira.
36:06
SPEAKER_01: And then there's like where hasam like how many feet away does the tie need to be?
36:12
SPEAKER_01: But then you learn in person, you're like, it needs to be that amount of feet away because it's kineged this, and it's a mushroom for this, and it's trying to give you this lesson, and it's a kabarata of all symbolism.
36:22
SPEAKER_01: So suddenly there's now more agata, there's more mashallah, and there's more ideas in the technical stuff.
36:27
SPEAKER_01: And I get a great geschmack from getting a symbolism out of something that nobody in Kleinstill cares or realizes that that is actually a symbolism because that is great content for speeches because you can get up there and say, wait a minute, does anybody like care to know why in the world we're pouring a jug of olive oil over someone's head?
36:49
SPEAKER_01: Isn't that so bizarre?
36:50
SPEAKER_01: Like, why would you take a kayun and pour a jug?
36:52
SPEAKER_01: You're taking Dabaramalach and you're pouring a jug of olive oil over his head.
36:56
SPEAKER_01: What in the world is going on?
36:57
SPEAKER_01: So you look at the Maprash and they say he's nothing.
36:59
SPEAKER_01: You look at Raphersh, she has 19 pages on it.
37:02
SPEAKER_01: And whatever he says there.
37:03
SPEAKER_01: But my point is that it's it's a it's a it's an eng it it pulls you in.
37:07
SPEAKER_01: So my Masheleva Hobbit has been shaped by Rib Hirsch to be basically everything.
37:12
SPEAKER_01: There are obviously things where like everybody, you're just not interested in everywhere.
37:16
SPEAKER_00: What's your favorite thing to speak about?
37:18
SPEAKER_00: If I call you right now, Mr.
37:19
SPEAKER_00: Rabbi Hill Eisenberg, we want you to speak at the upcoming August um Dafyami, CMS, and you're gonna be speaking right after um Rab Schmul Kamanetsky, but right before Rav Malkil Cutler.
37:34
SPEAKER_00: And we're also it's going to be, you know, um Rabbi Radinsky's gonna be giving closing remarks right before Rabbi Sroll Newman.
37:43
SPEAKER_00: Um and then also we're gonna bring Ravdove Landau, and then you're gonna give and then and then he's gonna speak, and then you know, we're gonna have then something the extra closing remarks by you.
37:51
SPEAKER_00: And you're gonna give the floor.
37:53
SPEAKER_01: In such an event that I would probably say that the sheepish shagas are I could find.
37:57
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
37:58
SPEAKER_00: That's uh that's and I would say a lot of Abister Helfensin and a lot of But you know what Vino, you know, you know what you also said something that's there that's that that's very uh thought-provoking there.
38:09
SPEAKER_00: You have basic audience awareness that you know you know does it.
38:13
SPEAKER_00: You gotta, we all should have basic audience awareness.
38:19
SPEAKER_00: I always like when I'm in front of like a Hasidic I don't know I'm not not that I'm a speaker, but when I'm in front of Hasidish people to like start off with like the Vilna going says and to like, you know, something like that where they throw tomatoes at you or whatever.
38:31
SPEAKER_01: I see you asked or initially what I if I have a go-to topic, and I do.
38:36
SPEAKER_01: That go-to topic is that the taira is your friend.
38:40
SPEAKER_01: The taira is the greatest blueprint to living the greatest ill maze.
38:43
SPEAKER_01: And I think that's sort of a lost ideology because we look at the world that there's tairah and then there's ill maze.
38:52
SPEAKER_01: But if you can prove statistically that we have the greatest Illumazah, religious Jews in 2026 have the greatest Alamazah statistically, and you could connect it to the Tyra and how the Tyrah is directly responsible for the lowest crime rate in the whole world, our communities, the lowest divorce rate, the lowest abortion rate, the lowest everything rate, which I do.
39:13
SPEAKER_01: I have many speeches where I go through every single statistic, and it's mind-boggling.
39:18
SPEAKER_01: I'm very passionate about it, that idea, and it actually is important during El, and I'll tell you why.
39:24
SPEAKER_01: Because there's a Gemaran Brachas that says you want to know how to do truva after it says Yefashva Shumais.
39:31
SPEAKER_01: If it gives a whole bunch of different avenues, but it says the ultimate avenue is Lailam Yargis Adam Yatsar Taiv al Yet Zahara.
39:37
SPEAKER_01: You should arouse your Yetzar Taiv against your Yet Sahara, which essentially means nothing.
39:45
SPEAKER_01: What does that mean?
39:45
SPEAKER_01: Well, obviously, what I mean it's like telling a marathon runner, make sure to run fast.
39:49
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, obviously.
39:50
SPEAKER_01: What does it mean?
39:51
SPEAKER_01: Arouse your Yatsh.
39:52
SPEAKER_01: Again, the Yatsar Taiv is win, is beating, is trying to is in a you know, perpetual fight against the Yet Zahara.
39:57
SPEAKER_01: What do you mean, arouse it?
39:58
SPEAKER_01: Obviously, this is the you want to do Truva, you gotta arouse your Yatsar Taiv.
40:02
SPEAKER_01: So one of the explanations given, which I uh like, is arousing the Yatser Taiv means remind yourself that the Yetzir Taiv is called the Yetzer Taiv.
40:17
SPEAKER_01: It's taiv, meaning to do truva means going back to a better life.
40:21
SPEAKER_01: That's what it means.
40:22
SPEAKER_01: In Ilam Hazeh, it's good, it's in your best interest.
40:25
SPEAKER_01: You're not sacrificing anything, there's no self-sacrifice whatsoever.
40:29
SPEAKER_01: It is better to have a well-trained mouth and not speak harshly.
40:33
SPEAKER_01: It is better for you to not look at other inappropriate images.
40:37
SPEAKER_01: It's better for your ailam hazah to have spirituality.
40:40
SPEAKER_01: It's if Shabbis is meaningful, your ailam aze is better.
40:43
SPEAKER_01: It's Yargiz Alam Yetzir Taiv means arouse your arouse the taiv in the yetzir taiv.
40:48
SPEAKER_01: Remind yourself that it's better even in Ilam Hazeh.
40:50
SPEAKER_01: There's a reason why every other nation on earth and every other religion is forever talking about the next world and kingdom come and seventy virgins that you'll get if you blow up a bus and kill yourself for Allah.
41:00
SPEAKER_01: The tairah mentions Ilam Haba a grand total of zero times in all of Tanach explicitly.
41:06
SPEAKER_01: And it's for this reason, because it's also for Ilamazah, and we don't want to make the focus entirely Ilamaba at the expense of Ilam Aza.
41:16
SPEAKER_01: And I think that's it.
41:17
SPEAKER_00: You know, the great Reb Yoruchum Levolitz, the great spiritual dean of Yeshiva Smir during the roaring twenties, said that we say on Friday nights, Mogena voice bidvaro, machai mesim bima moro.
41:32
SPEAKER_00: That's how we sing it out of town.
41:33
SPEAKER_00: I don't know if they sing it like that and where you're from, but maybe in Rochester they do.
41:36
SPEAKER_00: But then we get to this point where we say Am Medushne Oneg.
41:41
SPEAKER_00: Zechlamasibaracious.
41:43
SPEAKER_00: And he translated it.
41:45
SPEAKER_00: And I'm sure Archskirl Ots Art Scroll also does.
41:48
SPEAKER_00: But Am Medushne Oneg.
41:50
SPEAKER_00: Medushne?
41:51
SPEAKER_00: I put it into Gemini also to ChatGBT to translate literally means saturated.
41:58
SPEAKER_00: A sponge is medushne maim when it has water all in it or medushne shamed.
42:03
SPEAKER_00: Kalyusol is saturated with Eineg.
42:07
SPEAKER_00: Saturated with delight.
42:09
SPEAKER_00: With pleasure.
42:10
SPEAKER_00: Where do we go so wrong that people are like you know you hear people say that Judaism is restrictive?
42:17
SPEAKER_00: Don't you hear that?
42:18
SPEAKER_00: Where do they go wrong?
42:19
SPEAKER_00: Because you're right.
42:21
SPEAKER_00: It's not, I mean, it's not that it's not, it's just when you do it right and and you do protect your eyes and you do eat right and you do wake up on time and do things, it is a beautiful life.
42:31
SPEAKER_00: What do you where do you think people go wrong?
42:32
SPEAKER_00: Why do people think Judaism is restrictive?
42:35
SPEAKER_01: Well, if if one is uh uneducated to a certain extent of the inner workings of Judaism, what it's trying to accomplish, what the Tyra was trying to accomplish, Hashem gets nothing out of us serving him.
42:49
SPEAKER_01: Zero.
42:49
SPEAKER_01: It is blasphemy to think otherwise.
42:52
SPEAKER_01: He gets nothing.
42:53
SPEAKER_01: He gave the tyra, he created the world and the taira to give, to bestow good upon his people.
42:59
SPEAKER_01: Originally upon the whole world.
43:01
SPEAKER_01: There was a mumble, there was a McDalbob, there was an issue, there was a sort of a plan B, how it worked, you could figure that out.
43:07
SPEAKER_01: But now it it's upon Khalisra.
43:09
SPEAKER_01: The ultimate manifestation of the goodness of Hashem is on Khalisra, if you follow the Tarah.
43:16
SPEAKER_01: But that's very difficult because, hey, I could make a lot of money, and why lock myself up with one wife if I could be with multiple wives and mm alcohol at the at the outset and drugs to young kids.
43:28
SPEAKER_01: It's sort of like definitely a little bit, I guess, more fun immediately.
43:32
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's fun immediately.
43:40
SPEAKER_01: To be loyal to one's wife.
43:42
SPEAKER_01: It's obviously better to teach your kids how to read.
43:46
SPEAKER_01: Do you know that the Jewish people were ninety nine percent literate for ninety nine percent of our history, as opposed to the world which was ninety nine percent illiterate for ninety nine percent of business?
43:55
SPEAKER_01: That that that that's a whole different w we're living in a whole different world.
43:58
SPEAKER_01: We're living in a whole different planet.
44:00
SPEAKER_01: Planet of Taive.
44:01
SPEAKER_01: How many times does a tyrant say over and over and over and over again, Lam it's lem it's Laman Le Taivech.
44:06
SPEAKER_01: It's all the taive luch.
44:08
SPEAKER_01: It's for your own benefit.
44:09
SPEAKER_01: I get nothing out of it.
44:10
SPEAKER_01: But if you're sort of surface level, which again we have an epidemic of surface level people, if you're surface level, so then make money, build a house, and it's very it's it's like the bare minimum you're getting the bare minimum.
44:22
SPEAKER_01: You are you are like still stuck on you're eating candy bars at age 50 when you could be eating steak.
44:27
SPEAKER_00: You know what frightens the beans out of me is that somebody who doesn't have a deep sense of religion or purpose Judaism, but doesn't have right, doesn't believe in a greater good and doing the right thing, then all of the pain and death and hurt and and sadness is is I don't know how you endure it if you don't have a sense of meaning and right and Torah.
45:02
SPEAKER_00: When when I go through and I have a big surin, someone let's say someone sold forty thousand dollars from me, let's say.
45:09
SPEAKER_00: If I believe in God and I know that God is with me, I can still shake it off and go have dinner and hang out because it's gonna hurt for for a day or two, but God's with me, and God's probably gonna get that guy back, and also it's gonna work out really well for me in the next world.
45:30
SPEAKER_00: And also, I know that it only means good.
45:32
SPEAKER_00: If you if you're not Jewish in a way that you really believe, then you just lose money and suffer for nothing.
45:41
SPEAKER_01: I I hear what you're saying, and you're right.
45:43
SPEAKER_01: Atheists don't have that, and even quasi-believers don't have that, and uh it certainly the uptick in atheism uh has correlates to the uptick in depression.
45:56
SPEAKER_01: I don't think it's a main factor, but it's a factor, perhaps.
46:00
SPEAKER_01: Um, I think that religious Jews don't have that issue as much because, you know, uh most religious Jews, even if they are religious Jews masquerading themselves and they're really not believers, or there's you know, various degrees, there's no atheist in that foxhole.
46:17
SPEAKER_01: And I think there is that convenient, like, I don't really care what Hashem says.
46:22
SPEAKER_01: And it's true, everyone says that Hashem is in charge of my money, but and like I'm just doing a style list, but like I'm still gonna work overtime and crush every hour and not learn a Nightsator and do deals.
46:33
SPEAKER_01: I do you believe or you not believe?
46:36
SPEAKER_01: Do you not believe?
46:36
SPEAKER_01: I mean, if you really believe, the answer is I don't really believe, I'm just gonna go through the motions and whatever.
46:40
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
46:41
SPEAKER_01: But like if I get a text during Nightsator, there's a deal coming in, I am out.
46:44
SPEAKER_01: Closed, finished.
46:45
SPEAKER_01: So you don't believe.
46:46
SPEAKER_01: So you're a kyfer.
46:47
SPEAKER_01: Meaning anyone who leaves Nightsator for a business deal is a kyfer.
46:51
SPEAKER_01: It's it's you can't put it in any other way.
46:53
SPEAKER_00: If if Do you see that's the clickbait that we needed for this episode to work?
46:58
SPEAKER_00: Anybody who gets a text that there's a deal coming in during Nightseder.
47:01
SPEAKER_00: Is it I'm not sure.
47:03
SPEAKER_00: If I got a deal, I'm not sure if I might I might go out to make that deal because in my head I'm thinking, well, I'm gonna make this deal.
47:08
SPEAKER_00: This is the Ishadlas?
47:09
SPEAKER_00: No, I'm gonna go make that deal and then I'll be able to sit and learn Nightsader.
47:13
SPEAKER_00: I'll do first Seder for the next month.
47:15
SPEAKER_01: Why didn't Hashem send that deal at two in the afternoon?
47:19
SPEAKER_01: It's a good question.
47:20
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, the answer is it's because he's testing you.
47:22
SPEAKER_01: Uh-huh.
47:23
SPEAKER_01: And you will probably lose by taking that deal, and you will gain by not taking that deal.
47:28
SPEAKER_01: Again, obviously these are high levels.
47:29
SPEAKER_01: Right, right.
47:30
SPEAKER_01: These are high levels.
47:30
SPEAKER_01: But my point is that first of all, there was a time in history where that wasn't high level.
47:34
SPEAKER_01: That was the base standard, that was a standard.
47:35
SPEAKER_01: Right.
47:35
SPEAKER_01: So I think that we could a bubby.
47:38
SPEAKER_01: We could make that standard.
47:39
SPEAKER_01: That that it could be totally standard.
47:40
SPEAKER_01: Like you, you were, I'll give you an example.
47:42
SPEAKER_01: I spoke last night at a CM made by BP Graphics.
47:46
SPEAKER_01: BP Graphics to the non-Lakewood listeners to this, is a massive company that does a lot of uh advertising, printing and advertising and shipping, and a real corporation, hundreds of employees, real deal.
48:01
SPEAKER_01: Every single day, the CEO and owner, Mr.
48:05
SPEAKER_01: Heinemann, gives a mandatory shear where all male staff have to attend.
48:12
SPEAKER_01: They have to attend, they they come willingly.
48:14
SPEAKER_01: They close in the middle of the day, they close their laptops, they leave their cubicles and their workstations, and they come to a shear on Gemara and they make a CM every year.
48:25
SPEAKER_01: So I spoke.
48:27
SPEAKER_01: That is somebody who has their priority in straight, where God is in charge of the money.
48:33
SPEAKER_01: Who said that Hyshtadlus means exactly nine to five?
48:37
SPEAKER_01: He says, Mr.
48:38
SPEAKER_01: Heinemann, that Hishtadlus is nine to five minus an hour share.
48:42
SPEAKER_01: Why not?
48:42
SPEAKER_01: Who said Hishtadus has to be exactly what the Gaiush world determined?
48:47
SPEAKER_01: It's totally ridiculous.
48:49
SPEAKER_01: Hishtadlus means doing what Hashem wants you to do.
48:52
SPEAKER_01: He wants you to have a share in the middle of your day because it's good, because it means we're injecting Ruchnias into our Gashmias.
48:59
SPEAKER_01: That isn't it it's this I don't know if there's any other company that does it.
49:02
SPEAKER_01: I know there are companies that have Habruzas that come in, but this is like the whole company together learning the Khabura.
49:08
SPEAKER_01: Very impressive.
49:09
SPEAKER_01: There's many other things we could talk about, but that's impressive about that that that BP.
49:13
SPEAKER_01: However, I'm just saying, is it a gobliss or is it Imunapsuta?
49:18
SPEAKER_01: Like, hey, Hashem is in charge of your money.
49:21
SPEAKER_01: Do the bear the the do whatever's necessary.
49:24
SPEAKER_01: But if whatever's necessary comes at the affront, if if you're leaving Davenin early to go to work, it's not, I'm not saying you're a kyfer, but you're still a kiffer.
49:32
SPEAKER_01: Because once again, you're leaving the person who's gonna give you the money.
49:36
SPEAKER_01: It makes no sense.
49:37
SPEAKER_01: Now, now, between me and you in the lamppost, it's not a philosophical that they believe, it's just they don't really care for Davening.
49:44
SPEAKER_01: Right.
49:44
SPEAKER_01: And this is an excuse that I'm going to work.
49:46
SPEAKER_01: True.
49:47
SPEAKER_01: But that's also a problem.
49:49
SPEAKER_01: Right, right, right.
49:49
SPEAKER_01: It's also a problem.
49:50
SPEAKER_01: You don't actually care.
49:51
SPEAKER_01: It's not real to us.
49:52
SPEAKER_01: It doesn't mean any, which goes back to our first thing of why don't you feel attached to Davin?
49:56
SPEAKER_01: Because you don't know what the words mean, they're Chinese.
49:58
SPEAKER_01: So instead of going to another class and hoping some person on Torian Times can inspire you to divin, just get a really good peer-ish, read a book about Would it kill you to read a little bit?
50:08
SPEAKER_00: You know, that's what my dad would tell me.
50:10
SPEAKER_00: Would it kill you to read a little bit?
50:11
SPEAKER_00: That's another discussion.
50:12
SPEAKER_00: My dad used to tell me he should live and be well.
50:15
SPEAKER_00: Uh my dad's a superstar, and he's just got appointed the chief judge of Virginia, which is pretty cool.
50:20
SPEAKER_00: What does that mean?
50:20
SPEAKER_00: What meaning what?
50:21
SPEAKER_00: Meaning he is a high-powered attorney and a massive Tom Chakam.
50:26
SPEAKER_00: And then he uh was inaugurated as a judge.
50:30
SPEAKER_00: And now he gets to sit and people come in and say, Yeah you didn't pay child care.
50:36
SPEAKER_00: And and my dad goes, Pay the child care, and you know, he has to wear the black robe with the whole long frock.
50:42
SPEAKER_00: And I told him it was Begadisha.
50:44
SPEAKER_00: Wow.
50:44
SPEAKER_00: So, but anyway, it's neither here nor there.
50:46
SPEAKER_00: Why was I telling you that?
50:47
SPEAKER_00: Oh, because my dad would say, when I was young, he would say, You know, how was the how was the learning today?
50:52
SPEAKER_00: Was learning good?
50:53
SPEAKER_00: Was you know, my dad was really by the book, and and even if it wasn't learning, it was, you know, d did you learn your vocab today?
51:00
SPEAKER_00: Do you know what the difference between a you know conjunction is and a compound word and the functions in a phrase?
51:05
SPEAKER_00: Like anything, if the teachers were teaching, then you know, get smart, that kind of thing.
51:09
SPEAKER_00: And I really didn't listen or pay attention because I could care less about a function or compound words or the Civil War or, you know, anything they have to teach.
51:19
SPEAKER_00: And so I just never you know knew anything when I would come home from school.
51:22
SPEAKER_00: And then I was a really big football fan.
51:24
SPEAKER_00: And my brother, he would my father would hear my brother and I talk about you know, sports.
51:28
SPEAKER_00: And my brother would say, you know, Tom Brady's a great quarterback.
51:32
SPEAKER_00: And I would say, Do you know that Aaron Rodgers can throw for 280 yards per game, it's a 78% passer rating, and when there's this pass rush towards the right side, he can roll out and the projected probability is no like I would start lipping off as if I was like Abraham Lincoln or Einstein about football.
51:48
SPEAKER_00: So he'd be like, Aha, you you you could pay attention to something.
51:53
SPEAKER_00: You you you you do know something.
51:54
SPEAKER_00: How do you you just sound like Einstein about football, but you can't even he would say Allah, you could, you know, pay, you know, to the same thing about your football stats as you could do with Shineai's Professor or something like that.
52:03
SPEAKER_00: So again, it even if it was there's proof that most people are capable of a little bit of pushing themselves and thinking and processing, it just maybe they have to put in a little bit more time and effort to actually understand what the words mean.
52:22
SPEAKER_00: Hundred percent.
52:23
SPEAKER_01: 100% people are m massively way, way more capable.
52:27
SPEAKER_01: We we were just in Europe last week.
52:29
SPEAKER_00: So you That was my question, but wait, my question was I was gonna ask you in the Meat Hill part.
52:34
SPEAKER_00: Sorry.
52:34
SPEAKER_00: It was gonna be of all the places that you've visited, Moscow, Tokyo, I ri I re I researched you, Bangkok, Gibraltar, etcetera.
52:47
SPEAKER_00: It's not a place, it's just etc.
52:49
SPEAKER_00: Which experiences have stayed with you the most and what were memorable?
52:53
SPEAKER_00: Also, ask him for the most fascinating person he's met this past year.
52:57
SPEAKER_00: This past year.
52:58
SPEAKER_01: So there's there's kind of like a question ABC, but we we were lucky to go to many, many countries around the world.
53:08
SPEAKER_01: Um we like exploring the world.
53:11
SPEAKER_01: We're lovers of life, we love the world.
53:13
SPEAKER_01: Um two uh three years ago, we made the plunge in going to Asia, which is far and long and difficult to get to, especially with kids.
53:25
SPEAKER_01: Um You brought your kids to Asia?
53:28
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, sure.
53:28
SPEAKER_01: We brought our kids not just to Asia all over.
53:31
SPEAKER_01: How many kids do you have?
53:32
SPEAKER_01: And now I have three.
53:33
SPEAKER_01: At the time, we brought two.
53:34
SPEAKER_01: You brought a duna and and uh double shoulder and the whole thing?
53:37
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
53:38
SPEAKER_01: We we we come prepared.
53:39
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
53:40
SPEAKER_01: Um you went to Asia.
53:42
SPEAKER_01: We went to yeah, Japan and Vietnam and Thailand and Korea.
53:47
SPEAKER_01: Why'd you do that?
53:49
SPEAKER_01: Because you love life.
53:50
SPEAKER_01: Because you love life.
53:51
SPEAKER_01: Well, why did I do that?
53:51
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, why'd you go to why would you go to Korea and and and so we've been to a lot of countries in Europe.
53:57
SPEAKER_01: We've been to a number of countries in South America.
53:59
SPEAKER_01: For for hockey?
54:01
SPEAKER_01: No, no, no.
54:02
SPEAKER_01: Visit the world type of thing.
54:03
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
54:03
SPEAKER_01: Every summer we'll go to five countries, for example, or whatever, you know.
54:06
SPEAKER_01: Wow.
54:07
SPEAKER_01: So we decided let's go to Asia.
54:10
SPEAKER_01: It's something new.
54:11
SPEAKER_01: And it it totally blew us away.
54:14
SPEAKER_01: Um for one reason, basically, and that is because the last place on earth, in my opinion, where you see real, genuine, pulsing culture alive is in Asia.
54:28
SPEAKER_01: You go to you go to London, you could spend a week and not meet any genuine British person.
54:32
SPEAKER_01: It's all immigrants from India.
54:34
SPEAKER_01: You you go to Vancouver, I mean, there's no culture.
54:36
SPEAKER_01: You go to New York, you're not sure what's left and right.
54:39
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I guess there is New York culture.
54:43
SPEAKER_01: It's it's not much.
54:44
SPEAKER_01: You go to Europe, you land in Paris, you spend a week without meeting a French person.
54:49
SPEAKER_01: It's it's like immigrants from all over the place.
54:51
SPEAKER_01: Interesting.
54:52
SPEAKER_01: You land in Vietnam, you walk into the supermarket, you you can't recognize a single fruit or vegetable they're eating.
54:57
SPEAKER_01: It's a completely different world.
54:58
SPEAKER_01: It's a they don't they don't have immigrants.
55:00
SPEAKER_01: There's no immigration policy.
55:01
SPEAKER_01: It's it's the culture has been preserved largely since it's been for a thousand years.
55:07
SPEAKER_01: Fascinating.
55:08
SPEAKER_01: Totally fascinating.
55:09
SPEAKER_01: So it's almost like you don't even run off to see the Alps.
55:12
SPEAKER_01: It's you walk down the street and you're you're schmoozing with you, you go to a tea you go to a coffee shop and you're schmoozing with people, and it's it's unbelievable it's endlessly fascinating, or at least for someone like me.
55:23
SPEAKER_00: Um with regards to where was the most interesting place that you went and the most noteworthy person that you met?
55:32
SPEAKER_00: It's a hated question.
55:33
SPEAKER_00: Easily without a question.
55:35
SPEAKER_01: I mean, we've been to many places in the world, and easily Japan is the most uh fascinating, interesting, beautiful, stunning country.
55:43
SPEAKER_01: Um for the sushi or or just sushi is is is part of it.
55:47
SPEAKER_01: They definitely are into their fish there.
55:49
SPEAKER_01: Um I think it's the combination of here is it's like I said, a genuine culture that's been preserved.
55:56
SPEAKER_01: But also it's not a third world country, which we've been to many third world countries.
56:00
SPEAKER_01: So the third world a third world country in Asia is great, it's awesome, it's fun to it's amazing and stunning, but it's a third world country.
56:07
SPEAKER_01: So it's sort of like, okay, they're behind.
56:09
SPEAKER_01: Japan is basically ahead of the world in in everything.
56:12
SPEAKER_01: In everything.
56:13
SPEAKER_01: I mean, like you go to a ma you go to Japan, you come back to America, and you're like, we are so far behind those people.
56:18
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they have their issues, no question.
56:21
SPEAKER_01: But it's it's it's it changes one's perspective of the whole world.
56:25
SPEAKER_01: When you go to a culture and a country that's just nailing it in everything.
56:30
SPEAKER_01: I'll give you an example.
56:31
SPEAKER_01: The first twenty forty-eight hours we were in Japan, we looked around, we could not find a single piece of garbage on the floor.
56:41
SPEAKER_01: Not a single bubble gum wrapper.
56:43
SPEAKER_01: I just nothing.
56:44
SPEAKER_01: Zero.
56:45
SPEAKER_01: I thought it was hype, I thought.
56:47
SPEAKER_01: But there's no garbage cans.
56:48
SPEAKER_01: Okay, that's a separate right, right.
56:50
SPEAKER_01: Right.
56:50
SPEAKER_01: I guess a tapella.
56:52
SPEAKER_01: Well, that is the reason.
56:54
SPEAKER_01: Uh yeah, I made a video about this.
56:56
SPEAKER_01: I made a video about this.
56:56
SPEAKER_01: Oh man, I just okay, I feel like I've Kufa, because there's no garbage cans, made people realize you can't just bring your garbage out in the streets because there's nowhere to put it.
57:06
SPEAKER_01: Because when you have a garbage can, so then people chuck it on the outside, and then people just don't chuck it to the stamaz or something.
57:11
SPEAKER_01: But if there's no garbage can, so then like, okay, I wonder what's this?
57:13
SPEAKER_01: So they leave it at home.
57:14
SPEAKER_01: Or they bring it home.
57:16
SPEAKER_01: It's all they have a revolutionary, or totally revolutionary way of life.
57:19
SPEAKER_01: The only other country that rivals um the efficiency, the cleanliness of Japan is Germany, which we were actually in until a few days ago.
57:30
SPEAKER_01: And I I mentioned it briefly in a video of mine that I made.
57:36
SPEAKER_01: The the common denominator between those two countries, besides the fact that they're kick kicking the rest of the world and uh uh virtually everything.
57:43
SPEAKER_01: I mean, the patents, the the technology that comes out.
57:47
SPEAKER_01: Okay, Germany got a little got a little bit uh uh into immigrants, so it's got a little bit watered down, and some of the passions and the prides of Germany obviously got got uh historically spat out.
57:57
SPEAKER_01: And but when you're proud of your country for the good and for the bad, nothing we're not gonna talk about, obviously the atrocities that were committed by the German pride.
58:08
SPEAKER_01: No doubt.
58:09
SPEAKER_01: And the the Japanese, there's a reason why they too got together and fought against the world.
58:17
SPEAKER_01: They are so immensely proud of who they are and what they stand for, and their ninjas and their emperors and their gods and their Aryan race, whatever you want to call it, is that they live for something.
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SPEAKER_01: You I will not dirty my country with throwing a wrapper on the floor.
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SPEAKER_01: There's an innate pride.
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SPEAKER_01: They see a tourist, they want to smile.
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SPEAKER_01: You ask someone in the airport in Japan, where's the elevator?
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SPEAKER_01: They don't point in some vague direction.
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SPEAKER_01: They will walk you all 500 feet to the elevator and then bow.
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SPEAKER_01: This is the regular hamonam.
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SPEAKER_01: This is not the monk, this is the regular standard practice.
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SPEAKER_01: In Germany, it's like it's a hard it's less apparent because there's less you know authentic Germans.
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SPEAKER_01: There's it's as an American, I'd be like, What why are you bowing to me?
59:03
SPEAKER_01: Like, bro, can you be normal?
59:04
SPEAKER_01: But but that's the culture.
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SPEAKER_01: The culture is I'm proud of my country, I represent my co-country.
59:09
SPEAKER_01: Happens to me that I think that it's another aspect of Ell that is largely underlooked, and I'll prove it to you.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't know where you're coming from here.
59:17
SPEAKER_01: Let's hear it.
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SPEAKER_01: The only thing that the Shulchanarch says that one should work on during the Asarasimate Shiva, out of all the things that he could have said, is one should be Maqbed on Pasisro.
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SPEAKER_01: Even if he's not normally Maqbed, now you should be Machmed.
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SPEAKER_01: What?
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SPEAKER_01: Out of all the things that you could have told me to be Maqbed on.
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SPEAKER_01: You should eat bread baked by a Jew.
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SPEAKER_01: Why is that?
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SPEAKER_00: What a great question.
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SPEAKER_00: Wait, let's let's let's marinate the question.
59:44
SPEAKER_00: What a peladic question.
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SPEAKER_00: It's a paladinic question.
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SPEAKER_00: It's in my upcoming book, but Sarah Simchuva, the only thing Rosh Hashanah is.
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SPEAKER_01: You could have picked Rush and Hara, you could pick the chemist and you could pick them anything.
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SPEAKER_01: That's the thing you pick.
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SPEAKER_01: So the answer that I suggested was he's telling you to work on not just Pasistro.
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SPEAKER_01: Of course, you only buy during those days from a Jew, from a Jewish baker.
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SPEAKER_01: Of course.
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SPEAKER_01: You're so proud of who you pride is the is the antidote to a depressed chuva.
1:00:15
SPEAKER_01: You're you're not fixing yourself because you're flawed.
1:00:17
SPEAKER_01: You're polishing your boots because you're a soldier coming back to base.
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SPEAKER_01: That's what you are.
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SPEAKER_01: You're reminding yourself, you have a Tafgh.
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SPEAKER_01: The whole world spins because of me.
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SPEAKER_01: Because of me.
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SPEAKER_01: And I may have not lived up to that the last year.
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SPEAKER_01: And I'm coming back to the base, to the castle, to shine my boots.
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SPEAKER_01: That is true.
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SPEAKER_01: So you better believe you should be mocking to buy your bread from a Jewish owner of this.
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SPEAKER_01: That is your whole focus.
1:00:41
SPEAKER_00: I love that.
1:00:42
SPEAKER_00: I love it.
1:00:42
SPEAKER_00: So it's only going to be bed by a breaker.
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SPEAKER_00: I just love that.
1:00:45
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's the idea.
1:00:46
SPEAKER_01: So I that that idea stuck out at me when I was in Japan and in Germany.
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SPEAKER_01: I was like, they they have that pride.
1:00:53
SPEAKER_01: Their pride went way overboard, no question.
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SPEAKER_01: Kamikaze pilots, it's nuts.
1:00:58
SPEAKER_01: It's insane.
1:00:58
SPEAKER_01: You're gonna kill your son, you're gonna fly a plane into a boat for the sake of your country.
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SPEAKER_01: It's nuts.
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SPEAKER_01: But the pride exists.
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SPEAKER_01: And we should learn from that.
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SPEAKER_00: You know, you know on Tishabov.
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SPEAKER_00: Riv Gamliel's son and daughter were put into a room by their evil overlords and forced to cohabit, and they both cried and stayed away and didn't know who they were with, and the story is that they all died, and when when the kinna, the lamentation, is that the word for kinna?
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SPEAKER_00: This is about the dirge.
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SPEAKER_00: I think that's what Hirsch calls it.
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SPEAKER_00: The dirge in Hirsian philosophy.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh, you know, they call it like you begin a whole philosophy anyway.
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SPEAKER_00: They if you extra Mediaic, the Kinna, it doesn't say that they didn't do the Aveira because they're Jewish and it's and it's an Aveira to do this.
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SPEAKER_00: They said, How can me, the daughter of Rev Gamliel, do this?
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SPEAKER_00: How can I, who's the son of Rev Gamliel, they had such a passion in where they came from that their Tati is Rev Gamliel and that they're Jewish, that how can I possibly do such a thing?
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SPEAKER_00: It's nothing to a Sharinonish for them.
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SPEAKER_00: But it's like a it's a Stoltz, you know, is that the word?
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SPEAKER_00: Right.
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SPEAKER_00: Right.
1:02:09
SPEAKER_00: You tell stories.
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SPEAKER_00: Are you a storyteller?
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SPEAKER_00: Can you tell us some stories?
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SPEAKER_00: We do it all.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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SPEAKER_00: We do it all.
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SPEAKER_00: You're like the the the Swiss Army knife, the the Shoeotani of for those who don't know who that is, he's Japanese, is Japanese, come full circle, Japanese baseball player, the you don't know what Shoe Otani is.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay, I just don't know.
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SPEAKER_00: Of course.
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SPEAKER_00: Um so tell us a story that'll make us exciting.
1:02:31
SPEAKER_00: And we're we're gonna end shortly here because because you know it's late and and and Marip has to happen, and and because if we if we if I just you know continue to get caught up in what you're saying, I I could go until the morning, and then it's not gonna be good for for chakras or for for my job and and then all that.
1:02:49
SPEAKER_00: So we'll have to end here shortly, but tell us your go-to L story.
1:02:54
SPEAKER_00: That'll fire me up and make me want to run through a brick wall to repent.
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SPEAKER_00: Here's one and a half stories.
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SPEAKER_00: I I mean I have like literally Just give us one.
1:03:03
SPEAKER_00: Just give us one.
1:03:04
SPEAKER_00: Give us one.
1:03:05
SPEAKER_00: No, come on, there's one.
1:03:06
SPEAKER_00: There's another if I'm gonna if I have to get that asked for like a short, like say Divar Toro right now.
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SPEAKER_00: Like I have like a go-to, like you know, there's something I've said like four times.
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SPEAKER_01: And like I I see hard if you have if if typically what you say is mediocre and you have your one good thing, so then you have your one good thing.
1:03:21
SPEAKER_01: But if they're all good.
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SPEAKER_01: Uh well give us the best.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, I'll tell you this.
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SPEAKER_00: He's not like a Pesock Crow when he says something like that.
1:03:29
SPEAKER_00: Like he's just like, What do you mean?
1:03:31
SPEAKER_00: Each story is its own thing.
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SPEAKER_00: No, it's not that I cherish it.
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SPEAKER_00: It's that I think they're all they're all great.
1:03:36
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they're all they're all good.
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SPEAKER_01: They're all have their place and they're all have their Right.
1:03:39
SPEAKER_00: You know, you know, there's someone else was just talking about this where people make these conglomerations or these compilations of like the best Torah ideas, and someone's saying, like, how could how could you make how could you just make a compilation and say, like, I'm picking the f the the best 20 or aheim comments?
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SPEAKER_00: Like, who who you who are you?
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SPEAKER_00: And why do you have you decide that these are the best?
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SPEAKER_00: They're all you know, so anyway, yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Um there there's so many I could say you gotta get you gotta give us one that it could it could even be radical or it could be different, but it should be empowering and it should be happy, and it shouldn't be a mushle about a king who has a daughter.
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SPEAKER_01: So so here here's here's an idea here's a story for you.
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SPEAKER_01: Um When I was in Princeton, the first It's such a good way to start a story.
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SPEAKER_01: The when I was the the first class that I gave, I bring a whole bunch of chicken and food, and we have our apartment set up on campus, and the students pile in.
1:04:39
SPEAKER_01: And very few students are taking food.
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SPEAKER_01: Either it's they don't eat or they already ate or they don't have stomachs.
1:04:49
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_01: They weren't eating five minutes in walked Noah.
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SPEAKER_01: Noah was a six foot five Princeton student who was on the rowing team.
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SPEAKER_01: I suspect that he got a scholarship to be on the rowing team.
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SPEAKER_01: In the Ivy League world, rowing is the football.
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SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, great, he is gonna polish off this chicken that I got.
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SPEAKER_01: He doesn't have one bite, not even one.
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SPEAKER_01: So I told him, bro.
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SPEAKER_01: Maybe it was spoiled.
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SPEAKER_01: Noah.
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SPEAKER_01: How would he know?
1:05:23
SPEAKER_01: He didn't take one bite.
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SPEAKER_01: Maybe it smelled bad.
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unknown: Okay.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: I said, Noah, what's going on?
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SPEAKER_01: You don't have one piece of chicken.
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SPEAKER_01: He says, You have to understand.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm on the rowing team.
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SPEAKER_01: Before every single match, the coach weighs us.
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SPEAKER_01: If we're a pound overweight, we're slowing down the boat.
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SPEAKER_01: I will not slow down my boat.
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SPEAKER_01: And I that this class was Nell immediately because my brain works in in terms of putting it in the book.
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SPEAKER_01: You put it in a notebook.
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SPEAKER_01: Do we think of that of ourselves?
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SPEAKER_01: Do we think are we slowing or quicking quickening the boat?
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SPEAKER_01: Are we on a boat?
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SPEAKER_01: Are we anywhere near a boat?
1:06:08
SPEAKER_01: You could split Claystro into two camps.
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SPEAKER_01: There's the people part of the problem, and there's the people part of the solution.
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SPEAKER_01: I I know it's way oversimplifying, but it's the truth.
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SPEAKER_01: You either consider yourself part of the solution, or you're part of the problem.
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SPEAKER_01: You're either promoting God's light in the world, or you're not.
1:06:30
SPEAKER_01: Or you're kind of just and I think it's very empowering.
1:06:33
SPEAKER_01: The the Swasamists beferish, the central theme of Truva is returning to your original Kafkit and doing it with pride.
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SPEAKER_01: Remembering you were placed here for a reason.
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SPEAKER_01: You were on a boat.
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SPEAKER_01: One pound overweight, you're slowing down the bone.
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SPEAKER_01: One pound underweight, you're quickening the boat.
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SPEAKER_01: And that's, I think, a great empowering idea that people could have during Ell is that you're here for a reason.
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SPEAKER_01: Just because you're not a Rosh Shiva, just because you're not a Rav, just because you're a guy who works in an office doesn't mean anything.
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SPEAKER_01: In fact, in fact, I'll leave you with this because this is great.
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SPEAKER_01: The tzadikim of yesteryear sum up Ell as Hamelech Basada.
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SPEAKER_01: The king is in the field.
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SPEAKER_01: It's a fascinating, fascinating way of summing up El.
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SPEAKER_01: What in the world is the king doing in the field?
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SPEAKER_01: Why is he not in the base matters?
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SPEAKER_01: You want to come to the case.
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SPEAKER_01: Why is the kingdom if you want to come see clients who need to learn more in our spiritual state?
1:07:28
SPEAKER_01: So come to the seminaries, come to the elementary school.
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SPEAKER_01: What are you doing in the field?
1:07:35
SPEAKER_01: The answer is I'm coming to your field, to your office, because I want to see the real you.
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SPEAKER_01: I want to see the adam nicker bik big bikisa.
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SPEAKER_01: I want to see who you are.
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SPEAKER_01: I want to see are you learning a little bit?
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SPEAKER_01: Are you are you mockpit on what you look at?
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SPEAKER_01: Do you justify everything you do because you're working?
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SPEAKER_01: So therefore everything is good.
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SPEAKER_01: Because you're not a Rashiva Mamila, become a goddam in whatever you do.
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SPEAKER_01: You're working, become a godl in honesty.
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SPEAKER_01: Become a goddhel in be karkhalim.
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SPEAKER_01: You're a woman, become a goddam in being night being patient with your kids.
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SPEAKER_01: Why not?
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SPEAKER_01: Why do we why do we limit godless to if you if you have her if you have a yeshiva, then you're a goggle.
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SPEAKER_01: If you if you're a rabbit, then you're a godlow.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, become a goddam in patience.
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SPEAKER_01: Why not?
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SPEAKER_01: If you if you really believe you're on a boat helping Khalisro carry Hashem's banner in this world, so then I will become a godl in my thing, in my sada.
1:08:23
SPEAKER_00: I couldn't love it more.
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SPEAKER_00: I could I can't love it.
1:08:26
SPEAKER_00: Because my last thing that I was gonna close with was that this is a very different LL for me.
1:08:30
SPEAKER_00: I'm 29 years old, and I spent five and a half years in full-time Torah study immersed in the Yamha Talmud.
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SPEAKER_00: My challenges with business and ethics were nothing.
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SPEAKER_00: And my entire L of Avoda was can I learn and dive in more and be clearer in my learning and and write better stickles of Tyra, Stiglach Tira?
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SPEAKER_00: Can I be a bigger Lamdan?
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SPEAKER_00: Can I understand the Shir better?
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SPEAKER_00: Can I learn with my Khavrusa better?
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SPEAKER_00: So when I came all of a sudden now I'm a broker of real estate, 757-679-4497, Imperial, New Jersey.
1:09:08
SPEAKER_00: But now it's it's wait a second.
1:09:11
SPEAKER_00: I'm listening to El Shiurim, and it's so much about Torah and Tfila.
1:09:16
SPEAKER_00: But I mean, I'm doing I'm on a good day, I'm doing show-ins the whole afternoon.
1:09:20
SPEAKER_00: I'm on the phone in the morning trying to prospect new clients, talking to sellers that want too much money for their buildings.
1:09:24
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, where how am I supposed to do El here?
1:09:26
SPEAKER_00: I feel like a Nubbak.
1:09:27
SPEAKER_00: I feel like I'm not doing El.
1:09:29
SPEAKER_00: The king is in the field.
1:09:30
SPEAKER_00: You know, the king is also in Imperial Real Estate.
1:09:33
SPEAKER_00: And you know what?
1:09:34
SPEAKER_00: With this in mind, when I'm on that the honesty that I have to transact with, the godless, you know what you empowered me to think like right now?
1:09:43
SPEAKER_00: That 15-minute mincha in the middle of my day is now the most important part of my day, and I can become a guddle in that 15 minutes is is is crossed off and it's focused because the king's in the field.
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SPEAKER_00: Right.
1:09:56
SPEAKER_00: I love that.
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SPEAKER_00: Right.
1:09:58
SPEAKER_00: So what do we have?
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SPEAKER_00: If we're gonna summarize our episode, we met you, we talked a lot about, you know, your endeavors, but then finally we got into the Kishkas and we learned all about what L is about, and and we told stories, and we learned about being confident in being a Jewish, and we heard that you need to be more maybe an L into a Say Tov and not just Surmeira, it's not scary.
1:10:22
SPEAKER_00: And we learned about being honest and taking notes and actually writing down what needs to be do reading needs needs to be done.
1:10:27
SPEAKER_00: And we learned about, you know, eating passies suratel.
1:10:31
SPEAKER_00: You know, Rav Gav Friedman, Rav Gav, he like summarizes the whole thing at the end.
1:10:35
SPEAKER_00: Like, I can't do what he does, but I'm trying to like organize like what I what I learned with you here tonight.
1:10:40
SPEAKER_00: And we learned that don't slow the boat down.
1:10:42
SPEAKER_00: And we also learned that the king's in the field, and he's at your brokerage, and he's at your base manager's, and he's at your house, and he's in your children's room, and he's with you when you're on the phone.
1:10:55
SPEAKER_00: And everyone should look forward to the new Mo'adim on fire Savarim coming out.
1:11:01
SPEAKER_00: They should go and they should buy Parsha on fire from their local Jewish bookstore.
1:11:05
SPEAKER_00: They should hire you and find your information online so that you can come and empower the people to be good servants of God.
1:11:13
SPEAKER_00: And I thank you for this last hour and a half for empowering us to be better servants of Hashem.
1:11:17
SPEAKER_00: Pleasure.
1:11:17
SPEAKER_00: Thanks for having me.
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SPEAKER_00: Hizenberg.