Latest / Tecuento / Tecuento T3 P 29 - Amistad / Berta S. Brunfman
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- 0:02I call a program to share. Drive Daniel Bellinzone Friday from 13 to 14
- 0:11hours by radio trend Topic with the stories. It' s not a technical
- 0:38flaw. Listen to me the silence here distant to every second bombards all the
- 0:55information of different kinds and sometimes makes us lose sight of many things. Today
- 1:07we are going to start this beautiful program I tell you with a comment.
- 1:19It' s politically incorrect out there. But why are we so hypocritical.
- 1:34They taught us to be hypocrites, they went to us and used to be
- 1:42hypocrites. We come from Governments that have washed out language, that have banned
- 1:49expressions and vandeed to another Government that is free to express itself. That would
- 1:57be a way of looking at it. We' re going from one end
- 2:01to the other. In the middle still no one got because everyone bet to
- 2:07the maxim more and more, more and more. Just bet. But there
- 2:13' s a reality that marks the story. History has made it clear,
- 2:20since it is humanity, that sports meetings, since before the Colosseum and after
- 2:30the Colosseum, people met, or had people gather together to express, to
- 2:37transfer their things, sometimes their broncs, sometimes their desires, but transferred to
- 2:44those men and women who were in the field their desires. It' s
- 2:54fun. That is why competition, healthy competition and expression are important, because
- 3:05that is transferred later, nothing happens, or if it happens is that they
- 3:15are already other types of groups, other interests that want it to look like
- 3:23it was caused by all those people to enjoy the sport, the encounters,
- 3:30to manifest themselves, to express themselves, to externalize things is necessary. How
- 3:40many times we say here, talk about the situation, talk about things are
- 3:46solved by talking good. If I go to the court, I' m
- 3:49going to watch a game that sometimes good, sometimes bad, sometimes I fall
- 3:53asleep. I remember a game I fell asleep but I can express it.
- 3:59I scream it in the air and I don' t hurt anyone. I
- 4:02scream it in the air and if there are others, what they think like
- 4:06me, it will be the same scream in the air. Now we also
- 4:14do not want to be so neat as to deny history, to deny those
- 4:24who wanted to conquer them, those who in this twenty- first century treat
- 4:31as slaves those who are not of their land, to which they do not
- 4:38have their color as if they had not come to them from other lands and
- 4:45of other colors. That' s why today, as the opening curtain of
- 4:49I tell you, it was the silence if I tell him that it'
- 4:56s going to give us the calm and the silence that we' re going
- 5:09to break now because we' re going to chat with a friend Bertha,
- 5:16Susana Brukman, writer, oral narrator, and we' re going to share
- 5:19with today a few nice minutes. Hey, Berta You' re there.
- 5:26Crec believes, he believes. They tell me one. Juan is Berta,
- 5:36he' s berta, well, let' s go do it on him.
- 5:58In the meantime, something else. Yes, if you will allow me,
- 6:16you have to notice John, you want to communicate with her. There
- 6:25' s this Vertaao, hi, hey, you' re all right.
- 6:41And now you are, Daniel, now that I found you happy, happy,
- 6:46yes, because you were lost. You have me that there is video
- 6:55with you you have to see me. There' s got to be an
- 6:57image. There, there, there? He' s here, because my
- 7:00assistant Emilia helped me. Sometimes they tell me to come to my zoom,
- 7:08but in the lord I am assistant, Miriam, I can' t because
- 7:11I make trouble. Okay. The thing is, we' re young.
- 7:15We are still learning, of course, of course, and we have so
- 7:19much to learn. Daniel n one true. If we want to learn to
- 7:26teach young people, we have to learn first. Yeah. Yeah, yeah,
- 7:29yeah. That' s why I made the opening that I made bet
- 7:35writer, oral narrator, something else not this one. At one time I
- 7:42studied fine arts because they said I drew very well, but I just got
- 7:46the title. But for a long time I drew and painted a lot,
- 7:49I didn' t draw much, and I liked being recorded too. But
- 7:54then, over time, well, you go choosing where you want to stay
- 7:58on the art road, which because art is one. Art is one.
- 8:03It' s just conveying emotions, and that can be transmitted in so many
- 8:09ways, in so many ways, but you have to find the place where
- 8:16you feel comfortable how you got to writing. Well, I started writing since
- 8:20I was a girl. Writing for me was a relief I lost my dad
- 8:26very small, I was nine years old and I started writing poetry, very
- 8:33tearful poems and dedicated to him. And I realized that it was a very,
- 8:39very good way to vent for me, because I could share with others
- 8:46what was happening to me. You can' t say I was creative,
- 8:50because creative wasn' t just a way of saying to me this is happening
- 8:56to me and I solve it by downloading my emotions into a sheet and I
- 9:01realized it was doing me good, and then I kept writing stories, poetry,
- 9:13issues that had to do with my mood. But then I left some
- 9:18time and with the narration, listening to other very good companions, all of
- 9:26them narrating their own themes and also those of other writers, I was lit
- 9:31up again that sparkle. I realized everything I could say, everything I hadn
- 9:35' t said and to do my shows. When I was doing the shows,
- 9:43I told the stories I was writing, the stories I was writing,
- 9:48which are the ones I was able to publish in a book called Diferremos tales
- 9:54that I love to share with other companions and with anyone who wants to read
- 9:58it. It' s not right. It means you didn' t have
- 10:05a specific reference. You weren' t many courses. I did many courses,
- 10:11but rather theoretical courses where I listened to what writing was about. I
- 10:24took courses with Vicente Batista, listened to Marcelo Birmaher and others. I was
- 10:35nourished to hear how it is written, to write and to make reading groups,
- 10:43also that that helps a lot to write, but workshop as well of
- 10:52writing where they would indicate to me concepts so that I would build my stories
- 10:58personally. Not that, we weren' t talking about generality, but,
- 11:03for example, in Batista' s workshop we were about a hundred people in
- 11:09the national library. It was a miracle we gave him the texts. And
- 11:13it was a miracle that our text could be read criticized in the class.
- 11:20I did it once, but it wasn' t frequent. It wasn'
- 11:24t frequent and it served me a lot. Go to the workshops of the
- 11:28National Library. It served me a lot. Yeah, me. When avis
- 11:31knows the contagion, uh, yes, I do. Sometimes when I listen
- 11:37to Marcelo, I' m surprised as he' s so sorry. He
- 11:43poses situations that ops escape from a reality, linear reality. No, I
- 11:52mean, he makes his plant, he flies Yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 11:58yeah. Then in pandemic he says many courses as listeners as well and practical
- 12:03with a girl who is called. I don' t remember the name,
- 12:07but the last name is Martorell. Martorell is a Chilean girl who also taught
- 12:11us writing and very good literature. I recommend it and every now and then
- 12:20it is in some very nice courses, which is called pocket workshops, pocket
- 12:26workshops that appear on Instagram and Facebook, that can consult us and that are
- 12:31very good courses. It means that your thing is about your life, what
- 12:39you went through, what happens, and not only that They' re not
- 12:45autobiographical. My stories, what I write is not autobiographical. Something enters from
- 12:50now on because it is in what we mean no, but more than anything,
- 13:01to write we have to be an observer of life, a sensitive observer,
- 13:07and then there are stories that one hears so circumstantially and that, perhaps,
- 13:15that story, that person we are not going to speak it anymore,
- 13:18but he left us something, something so that we can say it from writing.
- 13:26You have to be aware of that, because sometimes you find yourself already
- 13:30I tell you with people with a very rich life who make us a confession
- 13:37and, maybe, what you' re telling us is something that will help
- 13:41us write a story, to write a poetry, a novel, because that
- 13:46then grows, that was the idea of what you told us, and then
- 13:50we' re making it grow. In the workshops that I was always told
- 13:56us to be attentive to what happens. If you go to one if you
- 14:01want to write, don' t turn into mobs, but more creative enchus.
- 14:05Not if you stop the ear something that is happening at the other table,
- 14:09b in a collective or down the street put it in the retina and
- 14:18take it with you because it will serve you to build stories, because there
- 14:22comes a moment that everything that we saw is exhausted. Yeah, and besides,
- 14:28it' s boring, yeah, no, no. The funniest thing
- 14:31that I take care of is being a walk- up chumbas, I listen
- 14:39in a cafe, a coffee shop, in a restaurant, what I keep
- 14:45listening to and sometimes talking to strangers, sometimes an excuse. Yeah, yeah,
- 14:52well, let' s hope we don' t see that person anymore,
- 14:58because we' re going to have a problem, even if it'
- 15:01s changing a few situations so he doesn' t look so reflected. But
- 15:03you can adapt the stories that impact us and that we hear from others can
- 15:09adapt and be a writer and write what you lived, what you heard from
- 15:18the narrative, how you get to the narrative and the narrative. I arrived
- 15:24by chance because I was doing a watercolor course at the 25th of May cultural
- 15:28center. It was the cultural center of the neighborhood where I lived and when
- 15:35I found myself giving courses, it was kind of an obligation. I felt
- 15:39like approaching there, because that place was abandoned for many years, but the
- 15:48structure was not preserved miraculously, but it was very very abandoned during the seventies
- 15:54and the eighties also very abandoned and they were going to tear it down.
- 15:58It was where I went with my brothers when I was a girl and apart.
- 16:02It' s a historic place because that was Gardel' s last performance,
- 16:06the last one. Then he went to Colombia, No, and when
- 16:10I saw that they gave art courses I noticed watercolor in a dependent subject.
- 16:18I liked the group We were Poquitas, a young Russian teacher. It was
- 16:23taught very well, but what happened there. The courses immediately arose a mystery
- 16:29because there were people who wanted that place for other activities. As always happens,
- 16:36and then the watercolor course is over. I got really bad and I
- 16:41said I' m gonna do something else. I saw narration. I thought
- 16:42it was writing, because I wanted to learn some techniques and when I went
- 16:51to class, the class gave Alice to Landau, she is the protagonist of
- 16:55the aurita that I was preparing now. Alicia Landau was one of the teachers
- 17:02of the Ana Padovani anapate group. He came once a month to supervise and
- 17:07teach. She didn' t, too, because I already had her high
- 17:15school and I liked people. I liked Alice a Landau liked very warm and
- 17:18good. When she came to teach, she turned me around because I never
- 17:22had such a talented and creative narrator and I really liked her, I really
- 17:30liked what we did with her and I said good. I' m staying.
- 17:36I' m going to stay, because you can talk about it here.
- 17:37They still don' t listen to it, you can share texts.
- 17:41He' s cute, no idea he could want to do it professionally,
- 17:47' cause I' d never done it before. But then ana, when
- 17:51the group was cut off, because she also got up, invited us to
- 17:57her workshop and we continued to pay what we paid at the Cultural Center,
- 18:03which was very little until the end of the year. Then we would integrate
- 18:06what we wanted, paying what was right and I liked it and then I
- 18:12met Mariano Llorente, who is a boy who tells very nice stories, who
- 18:18proposed to me to count on him. I formed the group Full of words.
- 18:21Then it was called Good Word and we added guitarist musicians and counted in
- 18:27many places. And there I realized that I had read few stories and had
- 18:33when the time came to choose material I found very good texts, but they
- 18:38were not to be narrated. I couldn' t tell Borges or what I
- 18:44know about other great writers who write beautiful things, but for me telling style,
- 18:51they don' t go very hard. And then I said I'
- 18:56m going to start writing about everyday things, about the neighborhood, about my
- 19:06experiences, and I was sitting in a bar and I wrote and I wrote
- 19:11that days and then I would tell my partner, Mariano, that it looked
- 19:14like him and he would tell me that it was okay and we would go
- 19:22on and I would also add some authors that I liked and material that he
- 19:26gave me that was a while ago, that I was in this your material
- 19:30is more to what kind of dramatic narrative. I think it' s quite
- 19:37diverse. I don' t have a single line, but I try to
- 19:45always have humor, humor because life has those sides. I mean, what
- 19:52we have to keep is like air, like breathing. But the first story
- 19:57I told was in the house, a story called rugby. Rugby was inspired,
- 20:10I guess, you ask me like this, what he points to have
- 20:12to do with everyday life. But to that everyday, one incorporates fantastic,
- 20:17historical elements, everything that comes. But if to look around the ideas arise
- 20:26and I had met a very nice waitress who is now no longer in that
- 20:33bar called Carmencita and from Carmencita I started to invent a story. So,
- 20:41maybe I' ll explain to you how the stories come up. Not because
- 20:47next to my house lived a man who was annoyed by his wife, who
- 20:49was already big and very sick and was half a peache with the young loving
- 20:55girls and then there those two characters joined and the story came out. Not
- 21:03because a story that has humor and that also does not tragedy, but assume
- 21:11that the stages of life can not jump them. Not because in this case,
- 21:18Carmencita has to give this gentleman some advice about whether it' s okay
- 21:25to want to declare her love to a twenty- five- year- old
- 21:27girl. You' re eighty- five, and in the middle a lot
- 21:34of things come up. He is almost a monologue and when I told that
- 21:38story, which was the first one I had written and the companions liked,
- 21:44to me it was like a caress to the soul, a huge caress to
- 21:48the soul. I came home and said I' m going to prepare it
- 21:51even more, I' m going to put this on it, I'
- 21:52m going to put it on someone else. And so the story of looking
- 21:56around, as I tell you, of chatting with a waitress that for some
- 22:03can be a character, a shadow that passes past us and serves us a
- 22:07coffee and goes on. But that' s not the writer' s work.
- 22:12It' s seeing what' s behind it. Yes as a story
- 22:17that can happen as it has done many times and agata Christie, not the
- 22:22more the one you didn' t see. The invisible one ended up being
- 22:27the main one of the work. Exactly. Anyone who wants to buy your
- 22:34book, how to contact, where it goes that gives few, but if
- 22:41they want, they can search me on Facebook and leave me an invox message
- 22:47and combine. I mean, on Facebook you' re like Bertha, there
- 22:52' s Susana Brunsman, the first name, my first name and last name
- 23:00Bertha Susana b r u nd Baby faith of happy Man and good. There
- 23:03you can leave me in an invox message and I have done it with many
- 23:08people and we combine. I' ve got about five or six left We
- 23:15mentioned I published a lot of it, too. That' s right,
- 23:18how it would fall on you, how they ask you, and their edition
- 23:22ran out right away. Yeah, yeah, the five thousand copies. I
- 23:26got up in the morning and you were gone. You said he' s
- 23:33my press agent. He runs my play. Speak plainly today you are preparing
- 23:37a play when it will come true and where we are hurrying, because the
- 23:48truth that goes faster than one thought and the director is very good. The
- 23:53actress of Salicia and Allandau was the teacher I had at the Cultural Center 25
- 23:57May. He began by making a story called the autumn face and in a
- 24:03pandemic I took a theoretical course in dramaturgy and worked on it following the teacher
- 24:11' s slogans and a monologue came out. I had already made the pepa
- 24:15and I with their socological Ana and a monologue came out and it was actually
- 24:22for two people, because there was also a narrator. But we unify it
- 24:29and I think that by November, by the end of October, the first
- 24:33week of November, it will be ready. It is called the course of
- 24:37narration and the protagonist is a woman who wants to escape a destiny. I
- 24:45' m not going to count, no, no, when you have it,
- 24:51when you' ve got a date and so on, you' re
- 24:55going to let us down and we' re going to promote it around here.
- 24:55She is a woman who wants to escape from a destiny and also has
- 24:59to do, as I spoke to you before rugby, with taking on the
- 25:04stages of life, but without giving up on dreams. No, because there
- 25:07is always something to project, to dream and realize. All right, what
- 25:12a story you can give us so we' re closing up later. Yeah,
- 25:17now, yeah, yeah, well, this is a story that I
- 25:21' d like to publish in the next book when I can, when finance
- 25:29closes me up and, as it' s romantic, it starts like this.
- 25:32The other afternoon I saw rain tell people, run and you weren'
- 25:38t there. The other afternoon a blue star was shining and you weren'
- 25:47t there. Oh, how Rachel liked boleros for many years. Raquel tried
- 25:53to find her soul Gemela, but all her attempts were unsuccessful. Time passed
- 26:00and Rachel felt that her aspirations had not yet materialized, consulting psychologists, tarotist
- 26:06astrologers who could flee her. The last professional you consulted was a shaman who
- 26:12read the lines of his feet. The man explained by telephone that, at
- 26:17least fifteen days before the meeting, he had to go to the podiatrist to
- 26:21remove the hardnesses that would prevent him from seeing clearly the lines of his destiny.
- 26:26Raquel took two shifts, one with the podiatrist and the other with the
- 26:30shaman. The shaman in question spoke with a European accent and told him that
- 26:34he was born in Siberia. His predictive and healing gifts were inherited during the
- 26:40consultation. Very focused on what the shaman saw let him know that his cycle
- 26:44of search for love in this world had expired.“ Everything has a time,
- 26:49Miss,” he said without giving rise to further questions, because he
- 26:53had to attend to the next patient. It was Elena, her best friend,
- 26:56who recommended her to see him. Depending on your step. It was
- 27:00really someone who handled the power of the occult with great skill. His predictions
- 27:07were always fulfilled. Rachel was disappointed in that interview to pay as much money
- 27:14as she had paid to end up hearing a hopeless response. Of course,
- 27:18it also seemed to him that this forceful response served to close a cycle.
- 27:23If he was denied love, he would undertake other searches. He had always
- 27:29been told that he sang well and although the shaman had not spoken on it,
- 27:34he felt that he could begin to take a singing course and focus on
- 27:38what everyone held was his gift That way he could fall in love, but
- 27:44his voice. The day before his forty- fifth birthday, Rachel was debating
- 27:48the choice of meeting her family or spending it alone with her memories. If
- 27:55he chose the first option, he would spend it with his father and uncles,
- 27:59his brother, his nephew, n the RN, his sister- in
- 28:00- law Elsa, who every time he came on the day he turned up,
- 28:04insisted on the same thing as if he was dating someone who like he
- 28:07did to be more beautiful every day, but who had to hurry because time
- 28:11was passing quickly and then see if he was still dating a married guy,
- 28:15that was a waste of time. Rachel didn' t want to think about
- 28:18him anymore. Then he also did not wish to confess that a shaman kiss
- 28:23had predicted that the time to love was suddenly over. That night he decided
- 28:29to have a taste, he wanted to eat rich and if there was something
- 28:33that gave him great pleasure, it was to eat His shi was Saturday the
- 28:36next day. He had no obligation to get up early to go to work
- 28:38at the barbershop He recalled that on the corner of his house the golden salmon
- 28:45had been opened by a restaurant specializing in sushi. He quickly entered the premises
- 28:48which, as far as he could see, was about to close if he
- 28:52hurryed, he still has time. He heard a man standing behind the counter.
- 28:56She was made gualaboca, reading the list of possibilities, which was the
- 28:59menu. He chose fifteen pieces of salmon from raw cooked prawns. When he
- 29:07finished paying, he picked up a little bait to get into the apartment,
- 29:11but he didn' t find it right away. He felt that in the
- 29:12rush he had forgotten. Put the owner of the place in the door on
- 29:17the inside. Seeing him emboldened, he asked if he wanted a glass of
- 29:21water to reach him. You don' t have to. He answered,
- 29:23I' m perfect. I went down to buy yours and it turns out
- 29:26now I have to look for a twenty- four- hour flower locksmith for
- 29:30extra expense. I have to do it realizes and all for not wanting to
- 29:33stay the whole night thinking stupid things clearly that for me they are not and
- 29:37the sushi raised my spirits. As soon as I got into my mouth with
- 29:41a bite of tuna or salmon rolled over with high rice and which isop Philadelphia
- 29:45to which, of course, I add to guasabios corny soy. I sit
- 29:48in the fifth heaven that goes to you that may care what happens to me.
- 29:52You' re the only thing you want me to pay you what I
- 29:53bought and for you to leave. Not the owner of the premises immediately apologized.
- 30:00My name is Juan, of course I care what happens to him.
- 30:03What you should do is eat your Sushin tray as soon as possible. Then
- 30:06you' ll see the fish. It' s very delicate. If you
- 30:10are right, my name is Rachel and thank you for the Council. Nor
- 30:12is it a matter of swallowing. I wanted to tell you that you have
- 30:15to eat your shi at the moment, you have to taste it and accompany
- 30:19it with a good glass of white wine like the one in the house.
- 30:22I' m going to uncork a bottle running on my own and that'
- 30:26s how it was without further ado. John took his tray to one of
- 30:29the tables and the two ate together. While they were having dinner. He
- 30:36said that he was newly separated and that he did not want to engage in
- 30:41any relationship that required compromise. I want to find a partner, but without
- 30:44haste my marriage. I confess it was a failure and a good thing we
- 30:48didn' t have any children and you. Raquel thought he cared very little
- 30:51about what they were telling him. He had his head. On another matter,
- 30:53he imagined going to the apartment with the locksmith, who would ask him
- 30:57a lot of money to put an sa the new horseshoe out of courtesy put
- 31:03face of interest and I, for now I' m fine as I am.
- 31:06When you came in, I thought I saw the woman with the most
- 31:10beautiful celestial eyes I' ve ever seen. She said surprising what a phrase
- 31:14she made. He thought how many times he had been told the same thing.
- 31:17If the thing remained in that tone, it would take the tray of
- 31:19Sucia to the square and ready raquel looked at his watch and saw that they
- 31:22had given twelve years. He lamented it' s forty- five and don
- 31:27' t tell me I look any less to look good, because then I
- 31:30grab my wallet and go. I heard you say a big lie and I
- 31:33don' t want any more lies. Today I get the mirror and I
- 31:37' m old. If I look over forty- five. Last year I
- 31:41made a list that I already have new wrinkles and stains because I love sunbathing.
- 31:45I' m not putting on the sunscreen every second in fat. I
- 31:48' m forty- five and I couldn' t fall in love with any
- 31:52of the men who went through my life, one worse than the other.
- 31:55If I told you my story, I also have to admit that I'
- 31:59m not anything special either. Physically, I' m from the pile.
- 32:01I don' t read much, I didn' t watch movies, I
- 32:05work all day, combing, cutting hair, making paintings, working since I
- 32:07was fifteen. I don' t know how to cook well, I can
- 32:13' t tell adventures about distant trips that I' ll never make simple living
- 32:16in a small apartment that has paper walls. If I sneeze next door,
- 32:19the neighbor says" heal" to me. Miss, I think I paint
- 32:22pretty boring and unattractive for what you intend to find today. No, but
- 32:28what a shame, what am I doing here telling all this to you?
- 32:31Good thing I didn' t tell you that a shaman told me that my
- 32:35time to find love ended I told you it wanted to be wine. I
- 32:37' m not used to it. The owner of the place was a very
- 32:42quiet man. He told us one word. She went to the door,
- 32:45under the metal curtain, put music and took her dancing.“ I haven
- 32:51’ t danced in a long time,” she said, falling back“
- 32:54The first thing they danced was rock raquel thought it was flying. Then it
- 32:57was a turn for a cumbia. He had so much fun stimulating the movement
- 33:00of his sleeping hips. When it was the turn of a tango, the
- 33:05bodies intertwined in such a way that everything made him forget that he had to
- 33:08look for a twenty- four- hour locksmith in order to enter his apartment.
- 33:14He thought that on Monday he would ask for the money back, the
- 33:17shaman recommended by his best friend. That' s good, well I'
- 33:27m really glad to see I' m loving a little humor, no,
- 33:30but very good, very good and well described berta happy to have. It
- 33:35' s autobiographical. No. No, no? No, no, no,
- 33:37no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
- 33:37no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
- 33:37no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
- 33:37no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
- 33:37no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
- 33:37no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
- 33:37no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
- 33:37no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
- 33:37no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
- 33:37no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
- 33:37no, no, no. No, no, no, no,
- 33:37no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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- 33:37no, no. No, no, no, no, no, no,
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- 33:37no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
- 33:37no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
- 33:37no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
- 33:37No, I like it so much. Even if it is autobiographical,
- 33:44that would remain to ask what it was like to be a kiss, a
- 33:52big kiss, another happy to have listened to you and to have known you
- 34:00and what you are doing. So warning, please, for letting me share
- 34:06ideas and from here by tomorrow. I wish you all very happy Friend'
- 34:10s Day, because we are all friends and we have a good time.
- 34:15A kiss, too. Thank you, Chao Carson, you' re going
- 34:21for a break. You' re my brother of the soul, really of
- 34:51the friend. Well, every road and journey is always with me. Although
- 35:01you are a man you still have a child soul, the one who gives
- 35:09me his friendship, his respect and affection. I remember that together we spent
- 35:17very hard moments and you didn' t change into strong winds. It'
- 35:28s your heart, an open house, you' re really the truest in
- 35:37uncertain hours, yes it comes to remember it betad. Tomorrow July 20th is
- 36:00the day of the strong friend hugs friends. Sometimes people start classifying who is
- 36:13more friends, fewer friends in general, friend, friend, friend. Many
- 36:22times we reach the fingers of one hand, but in life, in the
- 36:28course of our life, we have many friends, many support us in their
- 36:36moment, they encourage us, they do not listen and they are always there
- 36:45because even if we do not see them, even though in this network we
- 36:52are not always with them, but they are in our mind and in our
- 36:59heart, because each of those who have been with us has touched us with
- 37:05their magic wand. Something has left us and for that, thank you,
- 37:09friends, thank you, friends, for everything we learn from you, everyone
- 37:16in your style, in your form and also even though many say that we
- 37:23are not happy for your successes, we are saddened by the tragic moments that
- 37:31can happen, but the friend' s day is every day, so that
- 37:40tomorrow or already tonight we begin to gather and celebrate. What is friendship.
- 37:50This is the question that Colombian poet Carlos Castro Saavedra tries to answer. For
- 37:57the lyrical speaker, friendship means, among other things, support, sincerity,
- 38:04companionship and calmness. In the most complex moments. A true friendship overcomes the
- 38:10passage of time between joys and sorrows. Friendship is the same as a hand
- 38:20that supports its fatigue in another hand and feels that tiredness is emitted and the
- 38:25path becomes more human. The sincere friend is the clear and elementary brother,
- 38:32like the ear, like the bread, like the sun, like the ant
- 38:38that confuses honey with summer. Great wealth, sweet company. It is that
- 38:45of the being that comes with the day and clarifies our inner nights, source
- 38:52of coexistence, of tenderness. It is friendship that grows and matures in the
- 38:58midst of joy and pain. That' s the friendship for this man.
- 39:08There are situations that I tell you we like to present, we like to
- 39:22show and we are going to do it as quickly as possible. There is
- 39:30a song, the humagoqueño or known by all, that has a very particular
- 39:39history, since its creator is a porteño, the singer of the popular culture
- 39:47of northern Argentina. The humahuaqueño stands out, a traditional song also popularly called
- 39:55the carnivalito or the bradeño. An original carnival of the gorge that has been
- 40:00sung since the incact times. His music is played with er that throw out
- 40:07and hype. Edmundo Saldívar was a musician from Buenos Aires who composed the carnavalito
- 40:14el humai huaqueño without ever being in the place. El Mundo Saldívar was a
- 40:22guitarist of the typical Indian orchestra led by pianist Ricardo Tanturi and that would jump
- 40:27to popularity when he performed Alberto Castillo as a singer. Saldívar composed a Mahuaqueño.
- 40:36In a thousand nine hundred and forty- one, as he went by
- 40:39tram to his work, he lived in the city of Buenos Aires. He
- 40:45played half and reconquered and regularly took the tram nine- nine to radio the
- 40:51world, where the stable guitarist was rit with the noise of the brake and
- 40:58the rattling appeared to him the melody. He had never been to Humahuaka,
- 41:01nor would he be in the sixty- one years of his life. His
- 41:09carnadorito was in immediate success. It' s been recorded all over the world.
- 41:15In France it has had more than two hundred versions and in Germany,
- 41:21about one hundred have recorded it since Roberto Carlos. Here, in Africa there
- 41:25are remixed rapper symphonic versions and even in Japanese. It is the most popular
- 41:32Argentine music in the world and the anthem for the jugenio people that celebrates every
- 41:37February 7th, Carnival Day. In homage to the author, the Altibar porteños
- 41:46world that had been born in the seventeenth in Palermo. The friend Saldívar was
- 41:54very famous in a thousand nine hundred sees a romplan with eight themes that had
- 42:04central this composition, which had already gained popularity. The Saldívar world is just
- 42:14buried in Humahuaca and is generally recognized and celebrated by this strange work. Let
- 42:29' s not listen to some of the mahuaqueño sings what eight coming to this
- 43:04cannaval that bradeño micholita is of that mom who calls to sing to see what
- 43:12to throw and naval mouth and take to dance and become carnava bra of it
- 43:17my chulita, coming to none of it my horita, all this vega that
- 43:25sprouts a modal that they call to see that throw, boot bar and take
- 43:32dance and will break from there buido break already gone isabel of a mom that
- 43:45I so much to see what charle am ban naval mouth and to dance was
- 44:07mother arriving this alcana, how we continue to see behind a story. There
- 44:15is another story that is sometimes known, sometimes not. For today' s
- 44:23story I chose the landscaper and chose him before doing the reflection with which I
- 44:35opened the Casuality, Causality program. I do not know how to go once
- 44:44a painter of great talent who was sent by the Emperor of China to a
- 44:49distant and newly conquered province with the mission of bringing back painted images. After
- 44:58a long journey in which he visited in depth all the territories of the province,
- 45:04the painter returned, but, however, did not provide any images.
- 45:10This gave rise to surprise in the emperor, who ended up getting angry with
- 45:16the painter. At that time, the artist asked to be left a wall
- 45:24canvas on him. The painter drew in great detail everything he had seen and
- 45:30traveled on his journey, after which the emperor came to see him. Then
- 45:37the painter explained to him each of the corners of the great landscape he had
- 45:45drawn and explored in his travels. At the end, the painter approached a
- 45:52path he had drawn that seemed to be lost in space. Little by little,
- 46:00the painter went into the path, getting into the drawing and getting smaller
- 46:04and smaller until disappearing after a curve, and when it disappeared, the whole
- 46:12landscape did it, leaving the wall completely naked. This tale of Chinese origin
- 46:23is somewhat complex to understand and for this we must put ourselves in the position
- 46:30of the painter and what he does throughout history, on the one hand,
- 46:35to observe reality, but, on the other hand and as it is seen
- 46:42at the end when he joins his work, it forms an intrinsic part of
- 46:45it. It is an allegory that, although we can be observers of what
- 46:53is happening in the world, we want or are not part of it.
- 47:00If something happens in that reality, it affects us, as we are part
- 47:06of it, while what happens to us is not far from reality. The
- 47:19landscaper, unknown author. Well, dear friends, somehow we' re getting
- 47:31to the end of the program. I want to thank you for having accepted
- 47:38and tolerated my coughs, because I am with a strong congestion and being tomorrow
- 47:49friend' s day, I would like to share with you and to close
- 48:06different or two approaches to friendship. Mario Benedetti wrote. I like people who
- 48:15vibrate that you don' t have to push it, that you don'
- 48:21t have to tell them to do things, but that they know what to
- 48:24do and that they do it. People who cultivate their dreams until those dreams
- 48:28take hold of their own reality. I like people with the ability to take
- 48:32on the consequences of their actions, people who risk the right for the uncertain,
- 48:38to go behind a dream who is allowed to run away from sensible advice,
- 48:44leaving the solutions in the hand of our Father God. I like people
- 48:49who are fair to their people and to themselves, people who thank the new
- 48:54day for the good things that exist in their life, who live every hour
- 48:59with a good spirit giving the best of their gratitude, of being alive,
- 49:02of being able to give smiles, of offering their hands and generously helping without
- 49:09waiting for anyone. In return, I like people who can criticize me constructively
- 49:15and head- on, but without hurting or hurting me. People who have
- 49:20tact. I like people who know the importance of joy and preach it,
- 49:25people who by jokes teach us to conceive life with humor, people who never
- 49:30cease to be childish. I like people looking for solutions, people who have
- 49:42personality. With people like that, I' m committed to whatever it is
- 49:50for the rest of my life, because by having him with me I'
- 49:53m considered well- remunerated. This is what Mario Benedetti said and we are
- 50:00going to close with a writing by Jorge Luis Borges which he expressed like this.
- 50:07Friendship doesn' t need frequency. Love can, but friendship and above
- 50:14all, friendship of brothers, cannot do without frequency or frequency. Not love,
- 50:22however. Love is full of anxieties, doubts. A day of absence
- 50:29can be terrible in friendship. No, dear friends, here, along with
- 50:37Juan Greco, the people on the radio, we told them to spend a
- 50:44beautiful friend' s day. Let them write, greet, embrace, share,
- 50:52and remember. Tomorrow is a day of celebration, but every day you
- 50:58have to feed friends. Good week and I' ll meet you here next
- 51:04Friday. As I always tell you on treintopic radio at 13 hours