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- 0:00SPEAKER_08: Welcome back to another installment of Gas Money.
- 0:03SPEAKER_08: We got Chubbs in the building.
- 0:04SPEAKER_07: Yeah, y'all, y'all.
- 0:06SPEAKER_07: We got Zap in the building.
- 0:07SPEAKER_05: We also have Reddit in the building.
- 0:09SPEAKER_05: What's going on?
- 0:10SPEAKER_05: What's going on?
- 0:10SPEAKER_05: We got uh AG in the building.
- 0:12SPEAKER_08: Thanks.
- 0:13SPEAKER_08: Um, and we're gonna introduce our special guest.
- 0:16SPEAKER_08: Um, they're they're like uh they're about to become household names in the Gas Money Arena.
- 0:22SPEAKER_08: We got uh Ace in the building.
- 0:23SPEAKER_04: What up, what up?
- 0:24SPEAKER_04: It's Ace, baby.
- 0:25SPEAKER_04: We got KOcho over here.
- 0:29SPEAKER_01: Hello, everybody.
- 0:31SPEAKER_06: And they are the first couple of podcasts of uh Gas Money Podcasts, ladies and gentlemen.
- 0:36SPEAKER_08: Absolutely, absolutely.
- 0:36SPEAKER_08: Um, so how was your guys' weekend?
- 0:38SPEAKER_08: Oh, hey, hey, let's see.
- 0:42SPEAKER_07: My my weekend was chill.
- 0:44SPEAKER_07: I just had like a little barbecue with my friends.
- 0:46SPEAKER_08: I wasn't there.
- 0:47SPEAKER_07: So well, I wasn't even invited.
- 0:50SPEAKER_07: Friends.
- 0:50SPEAKER_07: Woo! I got invited.
- 0:53SPEAKER_07: Listen, I got invited last minute because oh, you got invited.
- 0:57SPEAKER_07: I thought you had the barbecue.
- 0:58SPEAKER_07: No, no, all right.
- 1:00SPEAKER_07: All right.
- 1:00SPEAKER_07: My friend had a barbecue.
- 1:02SPEAKER_07: Me and him was beefing.
- 1:03SPEAKER_07: We became cool again and he invited me.
- 1:05SPEAKER_07: Was that a barbecue reference you guys were beefing?
- 1:08SPEAKER_07: No, we legit had problems, so.
- 1:09SPEAKER_07: Well, what'd you guys have problems about?
- 1:11SPEAKER_07: We're not gonna talk about that on the podcast because it's uh we had the podcast.
- 1:15SPEAKER_07: You know what the fuck I mean.
- 1:16SPEAKER_07: All right, alright, alright.
- 1:17SPEAKER_07: You don't even know what the fuck you mean.
- 1:18SPEAKER_08: He never knows what he means.
- 1:19SPEAKER_08: Um, so you don't even know what the fuck you mean.
- 1:22SPEAKER_08: Zap, I know you're the weekender.
- 1:23SPEAKER_08: How was your weekend?
- 1:24SPEAKER_06: Oh, I thought you were gonna say the week is linked.
- 1:26SPEAKER_08: That that like that was about today.
- 1:30SPEAKER_08: Oh, okay.
- 1:32SPEAKER_05: Um I do shit.
- 1:34SPEAKER_08: Oh, okay.
- 1:35SPEAKER_05: This week I hung out with Red, though.
- 1:37SPEAKER_05: It's pretty cool.
- 1:37SPEAKER_08: Oh, so what'd you guys do?
- 1:38SPEAKER_05: I mean We got pizza.
- 1:40SPEAKER_08: I'm pretty sure there was more to the story than the pizza thing.
- 1:43SPEAKER_06: Yeah, but you know, we want to keep some of these things off air, you know.
- 1:45SPEAKER_08: Okay, well, everybody's just off air.
- 1:47SPEAKER_08: Okay.
- 1:47SPEAKER_08: Um I'm a family man, so I did nothing this week.
- 1:49SPEAKER_04: All right, so um I missed my goddamn flight to Antigua this week.
- 1:53SPEAKER_04: See, I don't really want to fully elaborate on why, but it fucking sucks when you get your ass up.
- 1:57SPEAKER_04: Well, you don't go to sleep that night, pack, get to the airport, and the nigga looks at you with a big ass file.
- 2:02SPEAKER_04: You ain't getting on the flight today.
- 2:04SPEAKER_08: So you just ended up not going to Antigua altogether.
- 2:10SPEAKER_04: Let me ask you a question.
- 2:11SPEAKER_07: Wow, were you flying jet blue?
- 2:13SPEAKER_04: America.
- 2:15SPEAKER_07: Oh, alright, cause no, because there's a situation that my my boy just told me where he shut the door on somebody because they came like three minutes late.
- 2:22SPEAKER_04: Yeah, no, they straight violated me.
- 2:23SPEAKER_04: I came two hours early.
- 2:25SPEAKER_07: Wow.
- 2:26SPEAKER_04: Wait, so how does it make me sounds just like a man?
- 2:30SPEAKER_01: We won't elaborate, but yes, we did not make it on the flights.
- 2:36SPEAKER_01: But we're leaving on we're leaving on Tuesday.
- 2:37SPEAKER_08: By her attitude, she was definitely taking too long.
- 2:40SPEAKER_08: No, it was not.
- 2:41SPEAKER_01: Don't even try because this nigga got naps in.
- 2:44SPEAKER_01: I stayed up the entire night.
- 2:46SPEAKER_01: So don't even it was him, but we're gonna operate.
- 2:50SPEAKER_06: We're gonna have to go though.
- 2:53SPEAKER_06: Can I can I can I interject here?
- 2:55SPEAKER_06: Do not blame her in any capacity.
- 2:58SPEAKER_06: Let's just not go there.
- 3:00SPEAKER_06: You saw what just happened?
- 3:01SPEAKER_06: All I'm gonna say.
- 3:03SPEAKER_04: A real man would have gonna be like AG doesn't get credited for.
- 3:08SPEAKER_04: He is wonderful at debates and bringing up arguments.
- 3:12SPEAKER_04: All I'm gonna say.
- 3:13SPEAKER_04: He's a genius.
- 3:14SPEAKER_04: A real man see it though.
- 3:16SPEAKER_06: Back in my day, back in my day, people like AG likes to poke the bear.
- 3:20SPEAKER_06: AG would be referred to as a shit stir.
- 3:23SPEAKER_06: Just stirring up the pot.
- 3:24SPEAKER_08: Hey man.
- 3:25SPEAKER_08: So my guy.
- 3:25SPEAKER_07: All I'm gonna say, AG.
- 3:26SPEAKER_07: I manage my time well.
- 3:27SPEAKER_07: AG, what would a real man did?
- 3:29SPEAKER_07: We would have gotten on the plane, would have been like meet us there on Tuesday.
- 3:33SPEAKER_07: That's not a real man.
- 3:33SPEAKER_07: What would a real man do?
- 3:34SPEAKER_07: That's not a real man.
- 3:34SPEAKER_07: That's not a real man.
- 3:35SPEAKER_07: Oh, damn.
- 3:36SPEAKER_07: Thanks for calling me an asshole.
- 3:37SPEAKER_08: You're trying to end your relationship on this podcast.
- 3:39SPEAKER_08: I see what you're doing, man.
- 3:40SPEAKER_08: Yeah, like last week.
- 3:41SPEAKER_04: Last week.
- 3:42SPEAKER_04: Are you single yet?
- 3:44unknown: Did she listen?
- 3:46SPEAKER_04: She definitely didn't hear the last episode.
- 3:48SPEAKER_07: I'm just gonna say this.
- 3:50SPEAKER_04: Y'all good.
- 3:50SPEAKER_04: He's smiling.
- 3:51SPEAKER_07: He's smiling.
- 3:52SPEAKER_07: Oh, it ain't good.
- 3:53SPEAKER_04: But we ain't gonna talk about it here, but he's happy with the.
- 3:56SPEAKER_04: Nah, there's a whole bunch of we ain't gonna talk about this this week, man.
- 3:59SPEAKER_04: Y'all getting scary on me.
- 4:00SPEAKER_04: And Miami ain't even it's not even here yet.
- 4:02SPEAKER_06: Pussy.
- 4:04SPEAKER_07: All I'm gonna say is a lot of things happen, and as far as I know, we're still in a relationship, but as far as I do know, we just aren't talking.
- 4:16SPEAKER_07: He just said the same thing twice.
- 4:17SPEAKER_05: Women are out of relationship before men don't be on.
- 4:19SPEAKER_06: You would make a great politician for the way you danced around that fucking question.
- 4:24SPEAKER_06: Absolutely.
- 4:24SPEAKER_07: Thank you.
- 4:25SPEAKER_07: I'm running for governor next year.
- 4:26SPEAKER_06: No, nigga, please.
- 4:27SPEAKER_06: You don't run older than you.
- 4:28SPEAKER_06: Looking at your looking at your frame, you don't run for shit.
- 4:31SPEAKER_06: Oh man.
- 4:32SPEAKER_06: That was good.
- 4:33SPEAKER_06: I'm gonna jog for governor then.
- 4:34SPEAKER_08: Alright, that was good.
- 4:35SPEAKER_08: So uh y'all want to talk about um lyrical miracle swimming pools?
- 4:39SPEAKER_08: Um Eminem.
- 4:40SPEAKER_08: Like that's what we want to do today.
- 4:41SPEAKER_08: Right, oh it ain't kill shot.
- 4:44SPEAKER_08: I even listened to the song to be honest.
- 4:46SPEAKER_08: Of all time ads as well, Lyrical ability.
- 4:49SPEAKER_08: Okay, thank you.
- 4:49SPEAKER_08: I just want to use it.
- 4:50SPEAKER_08: Lyrical abilities.
- 4:51SPEAKER_08: You feel that?
- 4:51SPEAKER_06: That's what I listen.
- 4:52SPEAKER_06: I keep saying it.
- 4:54SPEAKER_06: Nobody can out rap him.
- 4:56SPEAKER_08: Maybe Lupe Fiasco, maybe.
- 4:58SPEAKER_08: He's pretty.
- 4:59SPEAKER_08: Lupe Fiasco.
- 5:01SPEAKER_08: Okay.
- 5:01SPEAKER_08: Nah, it's like Lupe, though.
- 5:04SPEAKER_06: Back to Eminem, though.
- 5:05SPEAKER_08: Um, so he responded to uh Machine Man Bun Kelly.
- 5:09SPEAKER_08: Uh yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 5:10SPEAKER_07: You're not gonna disrespect my white boy like that, alright?
- 5:13SPEAKER_07: Well, they're both white.
- 5:14SPEAKER_07: They're all white.
- 5:14SPEAKER_07: I don't know which one you're talking about.
- 5:15SPEAKER_07: Oh, you're free.
- 5:16SPEAKER_07: Machine gun Kelly.
- 5:18SPEAKER_07: Okay, I'm sorry.
- 5:18SPEAKER_07: Leave the man bun, alright?
- 5:19SPEAKER_04: MGK.
- 5:20SPEAKER_04: Um You was about to put your right hand man aside for MGK?
- 5:25SPEAKER_04: M is not my right hand.
- 5:26SPEAKER_04: MG man bun K?
- 5:28SPEAKER_04: MM's not my right hand man.
- 5:30SPEAKER_04: I'm talking about MGK, bro.
- 5:31SPEAKER_04: Follow the conversation that you're not having.
- 5:33SPEAKER_04: I know.
- 5:33SPEAKER_07: So you just put my right hand man aside.
- 5:35SPEAKER_07: My right hand man ain't Eminem.
- 5:37SPEAKER_07: I was talking about AG, but damn.
- 5:38SPEAKER_07: He's not gonna know.
- 5:39SPEAKER_07: He's not following.
- 5:41SPEAKER_08: So the It's still early.
- 5:43SPEAKER_08: So this uh the song is titled Kill Shot, and me personally, I haven't heard Eminem rap like that in a little while.
- 5:53SPEAKER_08: I listened to the whole kamikaze's really good tape and everything, but this felt like this felt like uh, you know, a tape.
- 6:01SPEAKER_05: He just called it a tape.
- 6:02SPEAKER_08: What's wrong with that?
- 6:04SPEAKER_04: Because you're just trying to age us, Eminem, the whole reality.
- 6:10SPEAKER_05: I heard the referred to it as an A-trick, motherfucker.
- 6:14SPEAKER_06: I heard the H that was I heard that Eminem record.
- 6:18SPEAKER_08: I heard the albumage.
- 6:20SPEAKER_08: Yeah, I heard the album and it was uh it was really good, but uh Kill Shot like had a lot of like content.
- 6:26SPEAKER_08: Yeah, a lot of white angst on it, like the original Eminem that I like to listen to.
- 6:30SPEAKER_07: Let me ask y'all a question.
- 6:32SPEAKER_07: Ask away.
- 6:33SPEAKER_07: Y'all think it's a good song?
- 6:35SPEAKER_07: Oh, here we're gonna go with this first.
- 6:36SPEAKER_07: No, 30.
- 6:37SPEAKER_01: I like the sonically, I liked it and lyrically.
- 6:41SPEAKER_01: Sonically! I like the entire thing, and I can listen to multiple, multiple times.
- 6:45SPEAKER_07: Who do you think has a better song sonically?
- 6:48SPEAKER_01: So Eminem.
- 6:49SPEAKER_04: And that's coming from KOcho, who was just agreeing with AG on the uh what was what was uh Rap God was bad, man.
- 6:57SPEAKER_04: So see, she agrees with you on that, and with that conversation being had, she sat down and listened to the song, unbiased, loved it.
- 7:05SPEAKER_04: How many times did you listen to it?
- 7:07SPEAKER_04: She listened to it about uh six times today.
- 7:10SPEAKER_04: Today I need a girl through this torture.
- 7:13SPEAKER_08: I'm just gonna say this to that song.
- 7:15SPEAKER_01: Yo, she even got rap god, killshot.
- 7:20SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
- 7:20SPEAKER_01: Killshot's fire.
- 7:20SPEAKER_01: I can listen to that whole day.
- 7:22SPEAKER_01: There's no changing my mind on Rap God.
- 7:23SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
- 7:24SPEAKER_04: Okay, I'm just gonna say this.
- 7:25SPEAKER_04: So she even looked at the lyrics of Killshot to go back and then broke down, we broke down each line of reference.
- 7:31SPEAKER_08: There's a website that does that for you.
- 7:33SPEAKER_08: Rapids.
- 7:34SPEAKER_07: You guys had the way you just had Eminem Study Hall before you came?
- 7:39SPEAKER_07: All I'm gonna say is this I think MGK gave me a better song.
- 7:42SPEAKER_07: Yeah, we gotta speak about it.
- 7:43SPEAKER_07: Eminem gave me lyrics.
- 7:45SPEAKER_07: The beat to me could have been way more.
- 7:47SPEAKER_08: What's the Hulk on MGK song?
- 7:49SPEAKER_08: Okay, can I speak to the song?
- 7:50SPEAKER_08: Can I just jump in here real quick?
- 7:52SPEAKER_06: Can I just jump in here real quick?
- 7:53SPEAKER_06: Don't speak to me about a song if it's not.
- 7:57SPEAKER_06: Okay, we're speaking about a diss song, number one.
- 7:59SPEAKER_07: Yes.
- 8:00SPEAKER_06: Don't talk to me about a diss song being a song unless it's on the quality of back-to-back on Drake shit.
- 8:06SPEAKER_06: Okay.
- 8:07SPEAKER_06: That's a fucking song.
- 8:08SPEAKER_07: Okay.
- 8:08SPEAKER_06: The diss song that was nominated for a fucking Grammy.
- 8:11SPEAKER_06: We're talking about shit.
- 8:12SPEAKER_06: Number one, MGK's track wouldn't be shit without that visual.
- 8:16SPEAKER_06: Okay, now let me let me just say this.
- 8:20SPEAKER_04: If uh it had nothing to do with Eminem.
- 8:22SPEAKER_04: If this had to do with anybody else, it's it wouldn't have made a big thing.
- 8:26SPEAKER_08: Because back to back, if you remove the Meek Mill disc, like if he was just talking about a regular nigga, that's a girl's touch, well, it'd have still been bad.
- 8:31SPEAKER_08: It would have still been a bad thing.
- 8:32SPEAKER_07: Okay, that's just a really good point.
- 8:35SPEAKER_07: When I look at these diss tracks that's going on and people saying lyrics or whatever, if you look at Who Shot You, that's a song with a diss.
- 8:44SPEAKER_07: If you look at back to back, that's a song with a diss.
- 8:46SPEAKER_06: Who shot you was not a diss song.
- 8:48SPEAKER_06: It wasn't supposed to be a diss.
- 8:49SPEAKER_06: It was not, it just happened like that was the that was the narrative.
- 8:55SPEAKER_06: That was the song that he was doing regardless.
- 8:57SPEAKER_06: But it just so happened that it came out after Pac got you.
- 9:00SPEAKER_06: That was coincidental.
- 9:01SPEAKER_07: It could be coincidental, but I'm just saying it fit that that that whole diss not a dynamic.
- 9:07SPEAKER_07: It doesn't fit your argument because it's not a diss song.
- 9:09SPEAKER_07: Okay, whatever you want to say, but it fit that dynamic.
- 9:12SPEAKER_07: Now with D.
- 9:12SPEAKER_07: Hit Hem Up is a fucking with these two.
- 9:15SPEAKER_07: I like hit him up.
- 9:16SPEAKER_07: I feel like MGK had a better quality song.
- 9:19SPEAKER_07: This is the MM gave me bars to end your career.
- 9:21SPEAKER_07: This is that's how I feel about it.
- 9:22SPEAKER_08: This is a takeover ether argument again, but the two songs are not identical because MGK's song wasn't as good as Ether.
- 9:30SPEAKER_07: I feel like M I feel like M could have did a did a better thing.
- 9:34SPEAKER_07: And it would have been way harder to me.
- 9:36SPEAKER_06: Yeah, but he's not trying to see that's just it.
- 9:39SPEAKER_06: A diss track, shit, like you have to realize he came from a battle era where they went a cappella.
- 9:45SPEAKER_06: Beats don't mean shit to Eminem.
- 9:47SPEAKER_06: That's the whole thing.
- 9:48SPEAKER_06: So when you're when you're going at it in a disc battle, a diss track or a fucking rap battle, lyrics are what matters.
- 9:56SPEAKER_06: I guess.
- 9:56SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you don't want the beat, you don't want the beat or the rhythm to overshadow the lyrics.
- 10:00SPEAKER_01: Let's hear what he said.
- 10:01SPEAKER_07: In our era, it's both.
- 10:05SPEAKER_08: Because it's bullshit because it only happened.
- 10:13SPEAKER_08: It only happened one time in a mirror.
- 10:15SPEAKER_07: Whoever been beefing that didn't do that.
- 10:16SPEAKER_08: What are you talking about?
- 10:17SPEAKER_08: What who did be six nine's diss songs?
- 10:19SPEAKER_08: Like, does he make a diss song?
- 10:21SPEAKER_07: Yes.
- 10:21SPEAKER_08: What song did he make that song?
- 10:23SPEAKER_08: When he did the cable.
- 10:23SPEAKER_07: When he did the with the club with the uh get the strap when he did the key to that's the song.
- 10:27SPEAKER_08: It wasn't his song no more.
- 10:28SPEAKER_08: But I'm just saying, it's on the first one.
- 10:30SPEAKER_08: It was uh it was just his verse, which was the fucking worst verse of the song.
- 10:33SPEAKER_08: It was still the song.
- 10:34SPEAKER_07: The songs with disses in them.
- 10:35SPEAKER_07: But that's what I'm saying.
- 10:40SPEAKER_07: Okay, so who else, who else, who else in the game?
- 10:43SPEAKER_08: I'm gonna cast another one.
- 10:44SPEAKER_08: I fuck that nigga bitch.
- 10:45SPEAKER_08: That's like the last bar in that song.
- 10:46SPEAKER_08: And originally changes that originally all the time.
- 10:51SPEAKER_08: No, fuck I didn't have this song for this.
- 10:53SPEAKER_08: Give me another example.
- 10:59SPEAKER_07: None.
- 10:59SPEAKER_07: I'm trying to think who else even had a beef.
- 11:02SPEAKER_07: Niggas don't make this song.
- 11:03SPEAKER_07: I ain't go front.
- 11:04SPEAKER_06: I ain't go front.
- 11:05SPEAKER_06: Pest control by game was a hard diss track.
- 11:08SPEAKER_07: Yeah, that was good.
- 11:09SPEAKER_06: That was a hard diss track.
- 11:10SPEAKER_05: This is a lot of people.
- 11:11SPEAKER_04: Well, that was Meek Mill, really.
- 11:13SPEAKER_04: I kinda wanna I kind of want to go back to some uh AG, I kinda want to go back to something.
- 11:17SPEAKER_04: So we're talking about uh Drake's back-to-back song.
- 11:19SPEAKER_04: If you take out um him, whoever he was dissing, it's still a great song.
- 11:23SPEAKER_04: So that's another thing that we that's another thing I see about Dre and a lot uh Drake and a lot of these rappers nowadays.
- 11:34SPEAKER_04: They have so much shit just at their disposal, like so many diss songs already, so they can just put a name on it and be like, oh no, yo, this is this is fire.
- 11:42SPEAKER_04: I'm gonna pull this one off the shelf and add Eminem's name to it.
- 11:45SPEAKER_04: See, I see, I feel like there's a lot of that.
- 11:47SPEAKER_04: There's a lot more practice, a lot more things that are allowed to be polished, not allowed to be able to be polished before we hear them.
- 11:55SPEAKER_04: And and our era, Redina, yeah, is more authentic and right off the dome.
- 12:01SPEAKER_04: Amazing.
- 12:02SPEAKER_06: Yeah, there was Yeah, there was uh there was a rumor, I don't know how true it is or not.
- 12:06SPEAKER_06: Um I saw that alleged Eminem's response to MGK.
- 12:10SPEAKER_06: It took him like 13 minutes to write it.
- 12:13SPEAKER_04: Sounds like sounds about white, actually.
- 12:15SPEAKER_04: So that's also what I'm saying, too, because it sounds like Joe Budden, like for example, Joe Button.
- 12:19SPEAKER_08: Who got some shots on that should be?
- 12:21SPEAKER_04: I feel like Joe Budden has things on the shelf, songs on the shelf that he feels that's why he feels he's so confident if he really feels that way, and it's not just a ploy, so that he can sway his uh agenda on his fan base.
- 12:33SPEAKER_08: I'm gonna go off the ledge here and say, all right, Kill Shot was a good diss track.
- 12:36SPEAKER_08: Um, it served his purpose.
- 12:38SPEAKER_08: It could have been better, obviously, because it's emanated.
- 12:40SPEAKER_08: It was a fun track for MG.
- 12:41SPEAKER_08: I loved it.
- 12:41SPEAKER_08: And but if he comes to Joe Budden with this, it's not gonna work.
- 12:46SPEAKER_08: No, absolutely not.
- 12:47SPEAKER_04: Can I even show you his his main track?
- 12:51SPEAKER_06: Can I interject?
- 12:52SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 12:54SPEAKER_06: I think that the nature of the two are completely different.
- 12:59SPEAKER_06: I think that with MGK's discs, it's not as personal.
- 13:04SPEAKER_06: The relationship isn't as personal as it is with Joe Buddh.
- 13:08SPEAKER_06: And someone said to me, Oh, but MGK was mentioning his daughter.
- 13:12SPEAKER_06: How is that not personal?
- 13:13SPEAKER_06: Like, we get it, but you gotta realize too, M didn't hear this shit until like a year and a half after the fact.
- 13:19SPEAKER_06: So he's not really mad at it in the because it was you know out of the moment.
- 13:24SPEAKER_06: But he had to eventually say something because he has a duty to respond.
- 13:29SPEAKER_06: Because as he said on the sway interview, I cannot keep allowing for people to attack me and think it's safe, thinking that I won't respond.
- 13:37SPEAKER_06: So he's like, I don't know how I feel about the situation, but whoever I diss, I'm gonna make them bigger.
- 13:44SPEAKER_06: So my thing is this he took his time trying to decide if he really wanted to diss him, and if you listen to the quote unquote way or the venom in the diss, you take that versus uh nail in the coffin where he was obviously a little more angry, plus he was on drugs and shit at the time, allegedly.
- 14:08SPEAKER_06: And uh Allegedly, you know, I mean, I don't know if he was on drugs at the time he wrote the shit, but what I'm saying is during that time he was a different person, and you know I'm saying, like, he's been removed from that so you're saying he's playing with his food right now, kind of right now, like testing the water to see what are you gonna do.
- 14:24SPEAKER_06: No, no, no, right now right now his response to MGK was kind of like a father toying with his son.
- 14:30SPEAKER_06: He was he didn't he didn't really like he doesn't hate him.
- 14:34SPEAKER_06: Or he doesn't, it's not personal.
- 14:36SPEAKER_06: So with Joe, the thing is, I tried to put money in your pocket, whether I put money in your pocket or not, wasn't Joe on Slaughterhouse?
- 14:44SPEAKER_05: Yes, that's what I'm saying.
- 14:48SPEAKER_08: I don't listen to Slaughterhouse music.
- 14:50SPEAKER_08: Like the you want to listen to your friends.
- 14:52SPEAKER_06: The thing is that it's like, okay, that's like you know, me putting together a group or whatever, and it's like you sitting there saying shit about me, like, oh, his song was the worst fucking song that I've ever heard.
- 15:02SPEAKER_06: It's like, really, my dude, like the worst fucking song that you've ever heard?
- 15:06SPEAKER_06: Like that's a little much, right?
- 15:07SPEAKER_06: You know what I'm saying?
- 15:08SPEAKER_06: So it's like it's like I feel that Joe just constantly sends shots at M, constantly sends shots at M or whatever.
- 15:15SPEAKER_06: But Joe is internet.
- 15:19SPEAKER_06: Joe has the internet, so the way that he's going to steer the story, the way that he steers narratives is like I said, the content-wise, he's gonna say, Oh, a rap song needs to have content over lyrics.
- 15:34SPEAKER_04: For me to get out of bed to address it.
- 15:36SPEAKER_06: So in so he's already putting it out there, so that way, if it does come down to that, and Eminem responds lyrically, and Joe responds content.
- 15:47SPEAKER_06: No matter if Eminem's lyrical ability or lyrics on the song are better than Joe Buttons, they're gonna say, Oh, well, it doesn't have content, it doesn't have this, or it doesn't have that.
- 15:58SPEAKER_06: So he automatically is able to steal the um narrative from his platform the same thing that Charlemagne does a lot.
- 16:05SPEAKER_04: Right, catering to their story.
- 16:06SPEAKER_04: So, like, you know what I'm saying?
- 16:07SPEAKER_06: Like, so Charlemagne doesn't like Drake, obviously.
- 16:10SPEAKER_06: Didn't like Drake didn't like Drake.
- 16:12SPEAKER_06: Charlemagne doesn't like Mace, Charlemagne doesn't like this person, that person.
- 16:16SPEAKER_06: So automatically, like his opinion sways the following that he has if you're not smart enough to think for yourself, which unfortunately most people aren't.
- 16:27SPEAKER_04: I mean, the media's out there doing their work, they're doing their jobs, but yes, that doesn't mean that you shouldn't be smart enough to see above it.
- 16:33SPEAKER_08: I just think there's two people that Eminem cannot do this kill shot record type of record to.
- 16:40SPEAKER_08: And Joe Budden and Jay Electronica, who's now entered the beef because of a specific bar about P.
- 16:47SPEAKER_08: Diddy.
- 16:48SPEAKER_08: So I think we should also talk about that bar.
- 16:50SPEAKER_06: Did you did you hear Royce to five nine's response to that?
- 16:53SPEAKER_06: If anybody just said, if anybody has anything to say, I'm gonna light your ass up like a jack-o'-lanter.
- 16:59SPEAKER_06: That's another nigga.
- 17:00SPEAKER_06: Mind your fucking business.
- 17:01SPEAKER_06: People don't want no no smoke.
- 17:02SPEAKER_06: No smoke weak.
- 17:04SPEAKER_08: Some people argue that he's a better rapper than Eminem.
- 17:06SPEAKER_06: So hey, listen.
- 17:07SPEAKER_06: At the end of the day, like I said, Joe Budden can't even fuck with Royce to five wings.
- 17:12SPEAKER_08: He knows he can't.
- 17:13SPEAKER_07: He knows he's like, he said it himself on his podcast.
- 17:15SPEAKER_07: This is what I'm gonna add.
- 17:16SPEAKER_07: You think if Joe Budden releases a track, the whole Slaughterhouse is gonna have his back?
- 17:20SPEAKER_06: Absolutely not.
- 17:21SPEAKER_06: No.
- 17:22SPEAKER_06: Um nobody's gonna really have his back like that.
- 17:24SPEAKER_06: Because Joe Bunts is the only one who ever really speaks out against Eminem.
- 17:28SPEAKER_07: But that's what you say.
- 17:29SPEAKER_07: So you don't think, all right.
- 17:30SPEAKER_07: No, no.
- 17:31SPEAKER_07: If M makes a uh distract to Joe Budden and, I guess, mentions Slaughterhouse, you don't think everybody's gonna.
- 17:37SPEAKER_06: Why would he mention Slaughterhouse?
- 17:38SPEAKER_07: No, I'm just saying.
- 17:38SPEAKER_06: He's not if he does mention them, he's not gonna mention them in a disrespectful way or not.
- 17:43SPEAKER_04: If you don't know, if he does mention Slaughterhouse, Slaughterhouse was basically A group of dope ass MCs.
- 17:49SPEAKER_04: Not even that.
- 17:49SPEAKER_04: Slaughterhouse, Slaughterhouse's demise was at his hand, so he would only be talking about himself.
- 17:55SPEAKER_06: I can't really even say that.
- 17:57SPEAKER_04: It was because no matter what we want to say, he was the main name on he was the biggest name on that document.
- 18:04SPEAKER_08: Nah, but that was Joe's gripe with Eminem was that hey, you're the biggest artist in the world, and we're trying to do like how hard we have to do.
- 18:11SPEAKER_08: Why are we not getting the shady feature?
- 18:12SPEAKER_08: Why are we not getting this, this and that?
- 18:13SPEAKER_07: You want to be controversial.
- 18:15SPEAKER_07: The reason why I asked that is because you all right, you had I forgot the name of the song, but you heard what he said about D12, right?
- 18:21SPEAKER_07: Yes.
- 18:21SPEAKER_07: That to me was very touching.
- 18:25SPEAKER_04: Because a lot of people That shit to me shouldn't even been on fucking Kamaka.
- 18:28SPEAKER_07: But no, he I feel like he was doing it off of the stretch that's he was basically letting people know that they didn't, they already had their problems, and once proof really left, that was the group.
- 18:41SPEAKER_07: And I do agree with that.
- 18:42SPEAKER_07: Left?
- 18:42SPEAKER_07: But how does that transform?
- 18:44SPEAKER_07: How do we transform from Slaughterhouse to D12?
- 18:46SPEAKER_07: Because what I'm saying is D12 was basically at MM's hand.
- 18:50SPEAKER_07: Slaughterhouse was practically at Eminem's hand.
- 18:52SPEAKER_07: Eminem was not in Slaughterhouse, but I'm just saying he still had them at that like.
- 19:12SPEAKER_06: That was his vision.
- 19:12SPEAKER_04: This could be the Miami Heat.
- 19:14SPEAKER_06: But once again, when you have a bunch, when you have a handful of how many, how many members of Slaughterhouse were there?
- 19:20SPEAKER_06: Crooked Eye.
- 19:21SPEAKER_08: Joel Otis, Joel Button, Royce 5.
- 19:24SPEAKER_08: And that's it, it's four.
- 19:25SPEAKER_08: Oh, I kind of crooked eye.
- 19:28SPEAKER_04: I've been on no rock.
- 19:30SPEAKER_04: I guess it was five.
- 19:30SPEAKER_04: I only knew I only knew of Joe Budden and um uh Joel O'These.
- 19:34SPEAKER_04: No, it's four.
- 19:35SPEAKER_08: Uh I thought it was five.
- 19:37SPEAKER_08: Eminem wasn't in the group.
- 19:38SPEAKER_08: But I just thought that was.
- 19:40SPEAKER_06: Regardless of the case, they all had solo careers beforehand.
- 19:45SPEAKER_06: So, like I said, his whole thing was careers.
- 19:48SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
- 19:49SPEAKER_03: I didn't know of NGK until all of this shit.
- 19:51SPEAKER_06: I don't know about reputable careers.
- 19:54SPEAKER_08: Nah, he's talking about it.
- 19:56SPEAKER_08: Because we're talking about reputable careers.
- 19:57SPEAKER_08: I don't know if Crooked Eye had a reputable career without Slaughterhouse.
- 20:00SPEAKER_08: That is even mentioned Crooked Eye and so much shit.
- 20:02SPEAKER_06: Crooked Eye's a West Coast legend who's bit who was on fucking Death Row records.
- 20:07SPEAKER_06: Yeah, but that's the West Coast, bro.
- 20:09SPEAKER_08: We're talking about global country.
- 20:10SPEAKER_07: But if you read if you really think about it, Joel wasn't as big on the West Coast as he is now.
- 20:15SPEAKER_08: Hey, that's the point I'm trying to make.
- 20:16SPEAKER_08: I don't know if these guys were the biggest artist in Slaughterhouse was Joe Butler.
- 20:20SPEAKER_06: But what I'm saying is they all had careers, they all had a following of some sort.
- 20:25SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 20:25SPEAKER_06: It wasn't like they were unsigned, like nobody's ever heard of them.
- 20:29SPEAKER_06: So what I'm saying is he, you know, put this group together with the aspirations of, you know, boom, we can all do this, do that, whatever the case is.
- 20:36SPEAKER_06: But when you have multiple members or multiple people involved in something, everybody doesn't feel the same way about things.
- 20:44SPEAKER_06: You know what I'm saying?
- 20:44SPEAKER_06: Like, like he said, this person may feel this way about this beat, this person may feel this way about the beat or the writing content of the song or the feature or whatever.
- 20:53SPEAKER_06: When you have multiple people involved, things get you know, things get away.
- 21:03SPEAKER_08: First of all, how do we feel about the Diddy Bar?
- 21:06SPEAKER_04: Can can can we I feel like all truth all truth is said in jest.
- 21:10SPEAKER_04: The idioms again.
- 21:11SPEAKER_04: Mr.
- 21:12SPEAKER_04: Idiom here.
- 21:13SPEAKER_08: Um the bar was um can you look up the exact bar?
- 21:16SPEAKER_06: I'm gonna look up the exact bar.
- 21:17SPEAKER_06: Is that the end of the book?
- 21:18SPEAKER_01: So you're talking about the one it was like the last Yeah, yeah, like Michaels, the day you put out a hit, the day Diddy admits that he put the hit out that got Pac killed.
- 21:26SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 21:26SPEAKER_08: Exactly.
- 21:27SPEAKER_08: So the internet has been set ablaze by that one bar.
- 21:31SPEAKER_08: Because the internet is so fucking stupid.
- 21:33SPEAKER_08: Nobody I personally went over everybody's fucking head.
- 21:37SPEAKER_08: What M was trying to do, but I honestly believe that Diddy has something to do with Tupac's.
- 21:41SPEAKER_08: Absolutely.
- 21:42SPEAKER_04: That's why at the end of it, I'm not gonna That's why you said at the end of the thing.
- 21:45SPEAKER_04: Sorry, Diddy.
- 21:46SPEAKER_04: You know I love you.
- 21:47SPEAKER_04: He just put because he's not he knows in their in in their fellowship.
- 21:51SPEAKER_04: You know, you can't say certain shit.
- 21:53SPEAKER_04: I don't think M complain it as a joke.
- 21:54SPEAKER_08: I think M is on the in the is in the same uh vein as I read.
- 21:57SPEAKER_08: Just like they said on Breakfast Club, I'm pretty sure.
- 22:00SPEAKER_07: The same time you put out a hit?
- 22:02SPEAKER_07: No.
- 22:02SPEAKER_07: We don't know.
- 22:03SPEAKER_07: So it's playing, it's basically playing devil's advocate.
- 22:05SPEAKER_04: Exactly.
- 22:06SPEAKER_06: Red is going to explain the bar.
- 22:08SPEAKER_06: Okay, Ken, Ken, let me let me say this shit again.
- 22:11SPEAKER_06: Just so I've run it.
- 22:13SPEAKER_06: But Kells, the day you put out a hit, the day you put out a hit, the day Diddy admits that he put the hit out that got pot killed.
- 22:28SPEAKER_06: That's what he's saying.
- 22:28SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
- 22:28SPEAKER_00: He's saying like both.
- 22:29SPEAKER_06: I don't understand why that went over everybody's head.
- 22:34SPEAKER_04: It went over everybody's head.
- 22:36SPEAKER_04: I don't think it went over everybody's head.
- 22:38SPEAKER_06: It clearly did because people are trying to say, oh, he's snitching on.
- 22:40SPEAKER_06: He's like, everybody gets a fucking bar.
- 22:43SPEAKER_04: Because if um a lot of us everybody but has this is 50-50.
- 22:48SPEAKER_04: Some people 50 believe that uh Diddy has something to do with it.
- 22:52SPEAKER_04: Some people say he don't, right?
- 22:53SPEAKER_04: So you putting that, you being Eminem, as big as your platform is, he's done this.
- 22:58SPEAKER_04: Putting that out into the universe from your mouth is kind of giving some sort of uh uh not gratification but uh crediting that you know something.
- 23:11SPEAKER_08: It's giving that just did he really do it like he's done this before.
- 23:14SPEAKER_08: He did the whole hey uh Tupac is a Cuba shit.
- 23:18SPEAKER_08: He did it on that song uh Fubba Cubba.
- 23:20SPEAKER_08: Yeah, yeah.
- 23:20SPEAKER_08: Yeah, so he's a freestyle.
- 23:22SPEAKER_08: Yeah, he's done this before.
- 23:23SPEAKER_08: So people just feed into the dumb shit.
- 23:25SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I agree with Rhett.
- 23:26SPEAKER_01: I think he was just saying, it was just a pun on saying how unlikely it is for him to play.
- 23:30SPEAKER_01: Even though he's attaching it to that controversy, he's not saying he agrees that that's what happened, but again, it's just he's making that comparison.
- 23:38SPEAKER_06: Once again, like, okay, you said Casanova, like these are these are fucking rappers, correct?
- 23:42SPEAKER_01: Yeah, not everybody, but most people.
- 23:44SPEAKER_06: How is it that nobody can clearly read the fucking line?
- 23:49SPEAKER_08: Well, Casanova is not a lyricist, so that's what I'm saying.
- 23:53SPEAKER_08: Secondly, nobody reads rap anymore.
- 23:55SPEAKER_06: There's very few of them.
- 23:56SPEAKER_06: Pay attention.
- 23:57SPEAKER_06: That's why a lot of people don't think that Eminem's nice because they don't listen to what he's saying.
- 24:03SPEAKER_08: Yeah, it helps to read it too.
- 24:04SPEAKER_08: The reason why this bar is uh also being talked about is because it's brought J.
- 24:08SPEAKER_08: Electronica into the beef.
- 24:10SPEAKER_08: And he's another person I don't think Eminem wants to play with.
- 24:15SPEAKER_06: Okay, so who is Jay Electronica for those who don't know?
- 24:18SPEAKER_08: He was signed to I think he's still signed to Rock Nation.
- 24:21SPEAKER_08: He dropped uh uh EP called Exhibit C like 50 years ago.
- 24:26SPEAKER_08: He's been one of these rap enigmas that people have been waiting for this guy to put out music in a long time.
- 24:31SPEAKER_06: He I think I think people have been waiting on his music longer than Frank Ocean.
- 24:35SPEAKER_08: Yeah, just like detox.
- 24:37SPEAKER_08: He goes up in like one of those rap things.
- 24:38SPEAKER_08: He's always a meme because we're waiting for this nigga to drop some fucking music.
- 24:41SPEAKER_08: He's a really dope artist.
- 24:43SPEAKER_08: He was on control with uh Kendrick.
- 24:45SPEAKER_08: Shout out to Carter Five.
- 24:46SPEAKER_08: We're gonna talk about that too.
- 24:48SPEAKER_08: Uh he was on control with Kendrick, and that's when I think the mainstream kind of figured out who this guy was.
- 24:53SPEAKER_06: But he had he had um a track with Jay-Z years ago.
- 24:56SPEAKER_08: What was the name of it?
- 24:57SPEAKER_06: I can't really remember right now.
- 24:58SPEAKER_08: I like to remember the name.
- 25:01SPEAKER_08: I'm actually upset at myself.
- 25:02SPEAKER_08: Yeah, the track with Jay.
- 25:04SPEAKER_08: So it was a good track.
- 25:05SPEAKER_08: But everybody in within rap respects his pen because this guy is a fucking rapper.
- 25:09SPEAKER_08: Like he's not one of these new school dudes.
- 25:11SPEAKER_08: And he's another person I think M doesn't want to really um box with?
- 25:15SPEAKER_08: Play.
- 25:15SPEAKER_08: No, no, I would no M is not scared to box with nobody.
- 25:18SPEAKER_08: I just don't think M wants to release a song like Kill Shot.
- 25:20SPEAKER_08: Talking about we made it to uh yeah, he's a remix, yeah.
- 25:23SPEAKER_08: Thank you.
- 25:25SPEAKER_06: We made it Jay Electronica and Jay-Z, Jay-Z, J Electronica and H.
- 25:30SPEAKER_08: I expected it's exceeding expectations.
- 25:33SPEAKER_08: But yeah, so You're welcome.
- 25:35SPEAKER_08: Yeah, thanks.
- 25:36SPEAKER_08: I don't think uh he can release a kill shot to Joe Button or Jay Electronica.
- 25:40SPEAKER_08: But I know you brought up the fact that Royce is throwing his name in the world.
- 25:43SPEAKER_06: Well, number one number one, like I said too, you have to realize that the climate or the the tone behind the tracks are different because it's not a personal thing with MGK.
- 25:58SPEAKER_06: As you know, much as people trying to make it out to be, it's really not a personal thing.
- 26:01SPEAKER_06: He really doesn't give a fuck about MGK.
- 26:03SPEAKER_04: But he realizes now that he mentioned it that he gotta make sure he buries it as well.
- 26:07SPEAKER_06: But someone like Joe Buttons or like JL, like you have to come at like you can't come into every fight with the same, you know, mentality.
- 26:16SPEAKER_06: You have to study your opponent.
- 26:18SPEAKER_06: So that's what I think it is.
- 26:20SPEAKER_06: Eminem knew that MGK ain't worth you know what I'm saying?
- 26:23SPEAKER_06: Like I can stop, I can end your shit with this.
- 26:26SPEAKER_01: He said I have to give you a career to destroy it.
- 26:28SPEAKER_01: Like, that's what you're basically.
- 26:30SPEAKER_04: And that's that's Eminem catering to one of his strengths.
- 26:33SPEAKER_04: Like he like you already said, like you already foresaw, right?
- 26:36SPEAKER_04: Uh that he's just gonna go through your history, dig up your past, and figure out everything about you.
- 26:41SPEAKER_06: Like he said, just like he did on 8 Mile.
- 26:43SPEAKER_06: He said, You're a ma you're a uh Mohill and I'm about to make a mountain out of you.
- 26:47SPEAKER_06: You know what I'm saying?
- 26:47SPEAKER_06: Like he already knows.
- 26:48SPEAKER_07: He uses you to demise yourself.
- 26:50SPEAKER_07: The only thing I could see happen after this, really, is MGK releasing another this.
- 26:56SPEAKER_07: No, he's not it just not go anywhere.
- 26:58SPEAKER_08: All he did was promo his new EP on um Twitter.
- 27:02SPEAKER_07: Just off the simple fact that M really made him look stupid by saying um Recovery was four albums ago, whatever the case may be, and he basically corrected him like get your fact street.
- 27:12SPEAKER_07: He did exactly what he did.
- 27:13SPEAKER_01: So no no, so what he did was uh M so MGK said that your last four albums were as bad as your selfies, but MM was saying that Recovery was actually a very successful album that got him Billboard Music Awards, Grammys, and was the highest-selling album in the United States and worldwide in 2010.
- 27:31SPEAKER_01: So it was a successful album, it wasn't a bad album.
- 27:34SPEAKER_06: And not only that, like he said, by the time he was 29, he had three albums that already blew up.
- 27:40SPEAKER_06: So they had two classic albums, but I'm talking about it.
- 27:42SPEAKER_06: That's the one thing I'll give him.
- 27:44SPEAKER_06: But he button I'd rather be A or me than the album.
- 27:47SPEAKER_06: We're not asking whether they're classic.
- 27:49SPEAKER_06: He said he had three albums that blew.
- 27:50SPEAKER_06: They weren't playing them all of them.
- 27:52SPEAKER_06: So all of them, so at his age, you know what I'm saying?
- 27:54SPEAKER_08: They're both white, so he can't they can't use the white artists.
- 27:56SPEAKER_06: And that's and that's my thing.
- 27:58SPEAKER_06: Everybody's like, oh, Eminem is only successful because he's white.
- 28:01SPEAKER_06: I'm like, then how come there hasn't been another white rapper as successful as him?
- 28:04SPEAKER_04: Because once I exist, you will always be in my shadow.
- 28:07SPEAKER_04: Exactly.
- 28:07SPEAKER_06: Like he said, as long as I'm shady, you'll always be in my shadow.
- 28:11SPEAKER_06: He played with that boy on that.
- 28:13SPEAKER_07: He did play with him.
- 28:13SPEAKER_07: That's why I said he gave me bars, but I feel like the beat could have been better.
- 28:16SPEAKER_07: It could have been better.
- 28:17SPEAKER_04: So, I was really mad about the beat, but let me touch on something.
- 28:19SPEAKER_04: Let me touch on something here.
- 28:21SPEAKER_04: Just just just like we said, Red and I's argument about I I'm I'm including Red, because I'm sure I think he agrees with me on this, but the content of the lyricism that we hear nowadays in this newer generation of rap, this is our same argument.
- 28:35SPEAKER_04: Now you're see your your facial expressions are discrediting his last album that did do very well.
- 28:41SPEAKER_04: Not last, but the album that we just spoke about Recovery that did very well.
- 28:45SPEAKER_08: What was the best on the album?
- 28:46SPEAKER_04: I couldn't tell you.
- 28:47SPEAKER_04: I don't I don't see it.
- 28:49SPEAKER_04: I think it was no love feature never know.
- 28:50SPEAKER_04: Using asking me names about artists and uh actors and all of that shit in Hollywood, any any of this bullshit doesn't matter to me.
- 29:00SPEAKER_04: I don't know people's names unless you're a part of my family.
- 29:03SPEAKER_04: I don't know.
- 29:05SPEAKER_06: Or unless I'm getting a check.
- 29:06SPEAKER_06: Right, exactly.
- 29:07SPEAKER_04: Unless I've seen your name on the the side of my check saying in in payment to the order of, I don't know you.
- 29:13SPEAKER_04: So that's why like last week when we said if I'm worth seven million and we got some sort of beef, when I see you, what is it gonna be?
- 29:19SPEAKER_04: I don't see you.
- 29:20SPEAKER_04: I don't see you because I'm I'm worried about my money.
- 29:23SPEAKER_04: But saying that to say Eminem on that recovery album did numbers.
- 29:30SPEAKER_04: So I'm for that.
- 29:31SPEAKER_04: He always does that.
- 29:32SPEAKER_04: Whether you like your opinion is you think it was trash, it made numbers.
- 29:36SPEAKER_06: So whether we think our My Biggest flops are your greatest hits.
- 29:41SPEAKER_06: The game's mine again, and ain't nothing changed but the locks.
- 29:46SPEAKER_06: So before I slay this bitch, give Jade a kiss.
- 29:50SPEAKER_06: Nigga, which is a double enchantround.
- 29:52SPEAKER_06: No, I'm gonna lie, when he said that, I would just say, oh, triple.
- 29:55SPEAKER_04: Because his his daughter's middle name is what?
- 29:59SPEAKER_04: Jade.
- 30:00SPEAKER_04: Jade, and he's talking about Jade the kiss, is which he's got switch the locks.
- 30:05SPEAKER_04: Exactly, because they got like they have things.
- 30:07SPEAKER_06: Like that's what I'm saying.
- 30:08SPEAKER_06: Like people really have to digest these motherfucking bars.
- 30:11SPEAKER_04: Wait, he could be referred to his inn as ain't nothing but these locks has changed because he's no longer blonde.
- 30:16SPEAKER_07: Correct me right now.
- 30:18SPEAKER_07: Whose middle name is Jade?
- 30:20SPEAKER_07: Whose daughter?
- 30:22SPEAKER_07: Eminem's Eminem, so it's Haley Jade, yeah.
- 30:25SPEAKER_01: Scott Mallet.
- 30:26SPEAKER_07: It's basically you mentioned her name, now give her a kiss because uh yeah, career's over.
- 30:29SPEAKER_07: You're basically what you call it.
- 30:30SPEAKER_07: Okay.
- 30:30SPEAKER_01: But it's also played on Jade Kiss as well.
- 30:34SPEAKER_08: Alright, so let's uh put the button on that, not button, but let's put the button.
- 30:41SPEAKER_08: Pump it up.
- 30:42SPEAKER_06: I just thought that it was uh speaking of speaking of uh Joe, whatever.
- 30:46SPEAKER_06: I just want to say I definitely enjoyed Eminem's Petty back years ago when uh Buddh um got at Drake and Drake had Eminem on the show um in Detroit, and the arena in Detroit is called the um Joe Lewis Arena.
- 31:09SPEAKER_08: Oh, okay.
- 31:09SPEAKER_06: So that was when Drake was on the views tour, and Eminem's fucking caption was Views from the Joe.
- 31:17SPEAKER_06: That was hilarious.
- 31:18SPEAKER_08: Oh man.
- 31:18SPEAKER_08: Well, I mean, it's I guess it's been like a Cold War for the.
- 31:22SPEAKER_06: Yeah, that it really has been.
- 31:23SPEAKER_06: Like But you know, and and I just want to make this point one last time.
- 31:28SPEAKER_06: Joe Budden said that that one bar from M about domestic abuse wasn't enough for him to get up out of bed.
- 31:37SPEAKER_06: He was in retirement, but an alleged subliminal from Drake was enough for him to make how many diss tracks?
- 31:43SPEAKER_06: So I think that he's really fucking reaching.
- 31:45SPEAKER_08: Okay, I agree with you.
- 31:46SPEAKER_08: So um let's get on.
- 31:49SPEAKER_08: Uh uh Ace mentioned the the great Mr.
- 31:52SPEAKER_08: Carter's name.
- 31:52SPEAKER_08: I'm not talking about Jay.
- 31:54SPEAKER_08: I'm talking about uh Hey Mr.
- 31:55SPEAKER_09: Carter!
- 31:58SPEAKER_08: So uh we're gonna talk about Wayne.
- 32:02SPEAKER_06: We've been searching, we've been in the news.
- 32:05SPEAKER_06: I love little Wayne, but what the fuck is up with his hair?
- 32:10SPEAKER_06: Let's stick to the liverism.
- 32:11SPEAKER_01: Listen, all the time.
- 32:12SPEAKER_01: But dying it blonde makes it worse.
- 32:13SPEAKER_07: It makes it look like I've saw him at Summer Jam, and he came out looking like a straight guy that just came out of the bushes in the Caribbean.
- 32:22SPEAKER_07: Like, you ever see those people that like go hunting in the bush that come in their hair straight ramble hair all messed up when I saw my summer?
- 32:31SPEAKER_07: I'm like, yo, mastery.
- 32:33SPEAKER_07: It's mad.
- 32:36SPEAKER_02: It doesn't matter how you come out in a pink fur coat.
- 32:40SPEAKER_02: What the fuck?
- 32:41SPEAKER_02: That he is, but who has done this many drugs, still got his brain intact, still can perform, and still put down his lyrics and hasn't uh diminished yet.
- 32:54SPEAKER_04: Shout out to Charlie Sheen.
- 32:56SPEAKER_04: Of course you know, of course you're gonna lose him.
- 32:57SPEAKER_04: He got the monster, man.
- 32:58SPEAKER_04: He doesn't get but did he die?
- 33:00SPEAKER_04: But did he die?
- 33:01SPEAKER_04: He might as well die.
- 33:02SPEAKER_04: But did he die?
- 33:03SPEAKER_08: He might as well die.
- 33:04SPEAKER_08: I don't think that whole Hollywood.
- 33:06SPEAKER_05: He got the Dr.
- 33:06SPEAKER_05: Sevy before he died.
- 33:08SPEAKER_05: Oh, really?
- 33:08SPEAKER_05: He did.
- 33:09SPEAKER_05: Tiger blood.
- 33:09SPEAKER_05: Tiger blood.
- 33:10SPEAKER_05: Wait, you said he was?
- 33:11SPEAKER_05: He don't know.
- 33:13SPEAKER_04: So good, but I'm saying he ain't dead for a reason because Dr.
- 33:16SPEAKER_04: Sebi ain't dead yet.
- 33:17SPEAKER_08: AIDS was a governor, I mean government created virus to do what?
- 33:21SPEAKER_08: To eradicate minorities?
- 33:23SPEAKER_08: Oh, just minorities?
- 33:24SPEAKER_08: Okay.
- 33:25SPEAKER_08: I think just population controls.
- 33:26SPEAKER_08: I'll say the gays, but that's just me.
- 33:27SPEAKER_08: I mean, if you really want to get deep into Niggas, Jews, and gays.
- 33:32SPEAKER_08: I don't think Jews get AIDS.
- 33:33SPEAKER_08: Is Charlie C the Jew?
- 33:37SPEAKER_05: But that's all mistake.
- 33:38SPEAKER_06: That's just, you know, the like the white supremacy.
- 33:42SPEAKER_05: Those are those are the threes.
- 33:44SPEAKER_05: I'm a really talking niggers, Jews, and gays.
- 33:46SPEAKER_07: If it's a sexually transmitted disease, who was the first one to get it?
- 33:50SPEAKER_07: Then Drake is in trouble.
- 33:51SPEAKER_07: Well, they just said somebody fucked the monkey black Jew.
- 33:53SPEAKER_04: They didn't say it's a uh sexually um created disease, they said transmitted.
- 33:58SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
- 33:59SPEAKER_08: That's just a terrible.
- 34:01SPEAKER_08: You really said that on this podcast?
- 34:03SPEAKER_04: I did.
- 34:03SPEAKER_04: Like you really said that on the podcast.
- 34:04SPEAKER_04: Who was the first person with eight?
- 34:05SPEAKER_08: Are you fucking stupid?
- 34:06SPEAKER_04: You sound like that plane.
- 34:12SPEAKER_07: Um, okay, hold on, hold on.
- 34:14SPEAKER_07: Continuing on.
- 34:15SPEAKER_07: Hold on.
- 34:15SPEAKER_07: I'm gonna make you look stupid.
- 34:17SPEAKER_07: Please, please, please, you can't do it.
- 34:17SPEAKER_08: Talking about Wayne, please.
- 34:19SPEAKER_08: Alright, so Dwayne Wayne.
- 34:20SPEAKER_08: I mean Dwayne Wayne.
- 34:21SPEAKER_08: Lil Wayne, yes.
- 34:23SPEAKER_08: Owns Dwayne Carter.
- 34:25SPEAKER_08: Owns Young Money.
- 34:27SPEAKER_06: Who majority um share, he's a 51% um shareholder.
- 34:33SPEAKER_06: Yes.
- 34:33SPEAKER_06: In Young Money.
- 34:34unknown: Who's a 49%?
- 34:35SPEAKER_08: Probably Burton.
- 34:36SPEAKER_08: Probably Burden.
- 34:37SPEAKER_08: And then Universal.
- 34:38SPEAKER_08: No, hell no.
- 34:39SPEAKER_08: Universal gotta own some of that shit too.
- 34:40SPEAKER_08: I think they're owned Universal.
- 34:42SPEAKER_08: So, what does this mean?
- 34:45SPEAKER_08: Because we look at record executives and we look at people like Hove, he got Rihanna, he got uh J.
- 34:50SPEAKER_08: Cole, like, you know, he found these big artists.
- 34:53SPEAKER_08: Jay Z.
- 34:53SPEAKER_08: Jay.
- 34:54SPEAKER_08: I'm sorry.
- 34:54SPEAKER_08: Huge artists.
- 34:55SPEAKER_08: We don't we look at Diddy as a really good mogul.
- 34:57SPEAKER_08: He got Biggie, he got French, he got apparently MGK.
- 35:01SPEAKER_08: And we never look at Wayne.
- 35:03SPEAKER_08: He found Drake and the Queen of Hip Hop.
- 35:10SPEAKER_08: The greatest recorded woman in hip hop in terms of numbers, right?
- 35:14SPEAKER_08: And we never give Wayne his credit for this.
- 35:16SPEAKER_08: And they never they never give um Wayne credit for everything.
- 35:21SPEAKER_08: So I think it's um I I think we gotta start giving Wayne some credit for the Young Money Empire.
- 35:27SPEAKER_08: Because when they were on top, we actually do we never stop giving Wayne credit.
- 35:31SPEAKER_06: The only the only dictionary.
- 35:37SPEAKER_04: Oh, he invented invented.
- 35:39SPEAKER_04: I invented bling bling.
- 35:41SPEAKER_08: So he's on Beyoncé's level.
- 35:43SPEAKER_08: She invented booty licious and he invented bling bling.
- 35:45SPEAKER_08: Well, bling bling was way out before booty.
- 35:48SPEAKER_07: But this is my question.
- 35:49SPEAKER_07: What is the definition of booty licious now?
- 35:52SPEAKER_07: It's in the dictionary because of uh Destiny's Child, though.
- 35:54SPEAKER_07: That's some shit.
- 35:55SPEAKER_06: Excuse me, as um, we're speaking about little Wayne here.
- 35:58SPEAKER_08: Yeah, sorry.
- 35:59SPEAKER_08: You know, I'm a I'm a Carter, so I gotta talk about the Carter.
- 36:01SPEAKER_08: Yeah, not Mrs.
- 36:04SPEAKER_08: Carter.
- 36:06SPEAKER_08: So Young Money is now, you know.
- 36:09SPEAKER_08: How do we feel about Wayne's legacy?
- 36:11SPEAKER_08: Does this has to help?
- 36:12SPEAKER_04: I feel like finally somebody got a bought a bird man, got a overboard Birdman and is able to continue because like anybody else who was in Cash Money, Young Money, they did not do well because they didn't own anything.
- 36:23SPEAKER_04: That's what I'm gonna say.
- 36:24SPEAKER_04: Like, why have the many fish?
- 36:25SPEAKER_04: I mean, knowing I'm not trying to discredit uh Birdman because I don't want to be swimming with the fishes.
- 36:30SPEAKER_04: But um He did the same thing that most of these producers do.
- 36:34SPEAKER_04: It's not just him, it's a lack of knowing.
- 36:36SPEAKER_04: So these artists out here they go signing shit thinking it's all gravy because they have their drug money.
- 36:41SPEAKER_04: But when their drug money runs out, or they try to become uh more uh what do you call that, legitimate, and now they start looking at their books and realizing what's going on, then now they try to discredit what they didn't know before.
- 36:54SPEAKER_04: I'm on that already.
- 36:54SPEAKER_04: Hold on.
- 36:55SPEAKER_04: I'm trying to open a bottle.
- 36:56SPEAKER_06: Alright, so outside of these niggas are drinking Hennessy, ladies and gentlemen.
- 37:00SPEAKER_08: In case you didn't know, that's why we be rolling.
- 37:02SPEAKER_08: That's why I'm sweating.
- 37:04SPEAKER_08: Outside of Biggie Smalls, does Diddy have a bigger artist than Wayne?
- 37:09SPEAKER_08: Hell no.
- 37:10SPEAKER_08: Hell no.
- 37:11SPEAKER_08: Excuse me?
- 37:11SPEAKER_08: Outside of Biggie.
- 37:12SPEAKER_04: Does Diddy have a bigger artist than Wayne?
- 37:15SPEAKER_04: Um because Wayne has Drake and Niggy.
- 37:17SPEAKER_04: No.
- 37:17SPEAKER_04: No, no.
- 37:18SPEAKER_04: I mean, Diddy still has Biggie because he owns everything.
- 37:21SPEAKER_04: Outside of Biggie, outside of Biggie.
- 37:22SPEAKER_04: Outside of Biggie.
- 37:23SPEAKER_04: Fred Montana is not saying.
- 37:25SPEAKER_04: That's like saying, uh, wait, what was the question before?
- 37:27SPEAKER_04: Because I think I'm about to say that.
- 37:28SPEAKER_08: Outside of Biggie, does Diddy have a bigger artist under his belt than Wayne does?
- 37:34SPEAKER_08: No.
- 37:34SPEAKER_04: Oh, okay, no.
- 37:36SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 37:37SPEAKER_04: Yes, yes, yes.
- 37:38SPEAKER_04: Because Drake is still going.
- 37:39SPEAKER_04: Oh, Drake is under Wayne.
- 37:42SPEAKER_01: He's saying Nikki.
- 37:43SPEAKER_06: Wayne has Nikki and Drake, which are a bigger belt.
- 37:48SPEAKER_06: Does Diddy have a bigger artist under his belt than Wayne does?
- 37:52SPEAKER_06: Yeah, no, little Wayne does.
- 37:53SPEAKER_06: Aside from Biggie.
- 37:54SPEAKER_07: Aside from Biggie.
- 37:55SPEAKER_07: Wayne has Drake and Nikki.
- 37:56SPEAKER_07: Exactly.
- 37:57SPEAKER_07: That's two.
- 37:57SPEAKER_07: The only person I would say that could even come close to Kapina is French.
- 38:00SPEAKER_04: I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
- 38:01SPEAKER_04: Not even close.
- 38:02SPEAKER_04: Aquafina and Shirack.
- 38:05SPEAKER_04: Oh, I see what you're doing there.
- 38:08SPEAKER_04: But he has businesses.
- 38:09SPEAKER_04: Wait, hold on, hold on.
- 38:10SPEAKER_06: Like, well, I can't even say Rick Ross because I mean Nole have is like a video.
- 38:19SPEAKER_01: Yeah, exactly.
- 38:20SPEAKER_01: Who buys that water but that make rock?
- 38:22SPEAKER_01: Yo, that keeps him up there on that list.
- 38:24unknown: He's working.
- 38:25SPEAKER_08: Yo, Rock isn't bigger than Ace of Spades.
- 38:27SPEAKER_04: If you look at his net worth, uh he's that's not an artist.
- 38:30SPEAKER_07: We're talking music.
- 38:31SPEAKER_04: He's bringing in his money right now.
- 38:32SPEAKER_04: I know.
- 38:32SPEAKER_04: He's talking about it.
- 38:34SPEAKER_04: Didion tequila?
- 38:36SPEAKER_04: I'm being facetious here.
- 38:37SPEAKER_07: What about Dideon?
- 38:38SPEAKER_07: What the fuck is Diddy?
- 38:39SPEAKER_07: It's tequila.
- 38:40SPEAKER_08: Nobody's drinking that shit.
- 38:42SPEAKER_04: Nobody knew about that.
- 38:42SPEAKER_04: Is Rihanna bigger than Drake?
- 38:46SPEAKER_04: It depends on where you look at her.
- 38:48SPEAKER_04: She might be Nikki.
- 38:49SPEAKER_07: Globally.
- 38:50SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
- 38:51SPEAKER_07: Is she bigger than Nikki?
- 38:52SPEAKER_07: She's definitely bigger than Nicki Banaj.
- 38:54SPEAKER_07: So he does.
- 38:54SPEAKER_07: So technically, doesn't he have an artist bigger than Drake?
- 38:57SPEAKER_07: Drake is the meal ticket.
- 39:00SPEAKER_07: Nah, that's what I'm trying to think.
- 39:01SPEAKER_01: Like Andriana is a good one.
- 39:03SPEAKER_01: But Drake isn't signed to Young Money anymore.
- 39:05SPEAKER_07: Yeah, Drake ain't under Young Money anymore.
- 39:06SPEAKER_07: He's not.
- 39:07SPEAKER_07: He's a free agent.
- 39:07SPEAKER_07: I'm 100% sure about that.
- 39:08SPEAKER_04: Hold on, hold on.
- 39:09SPEAKER_04: We gotta ask this question of what year of relevance.
- 39:11SPEAKER_04: As of right now, yes, big uh Diddy doesn't have anybody bigger, but as of maybe a couple years ago when the locks were still under him and everybody was still under him, never as big as Drake in the world.
- 39:22SPEAKER_02: Okay, we didn't ask who's better.
- 39:23SPEAKER_02: You did say bigger.
- 39:24SPEAKER_02: You're right, you're right.
- 39:27SPEAKER_08: I choose my words for a reason, trust me.
- 39:28SPEAKER_01: Commercially, right?
- 39:29SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely.
- 39:30SPEAKER_01: Yes, commercials.
- 39:31SPEAKER_01: Also sonically.
- 39:32SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and also to get rid of that bigger and mixer that you have, motherfucker.
- 39:37SPEAKER_04: And verbal shit steril.
- 39:38SPEAKER_07: At one point, wasn't French bigger than anybody that's on the wheel?
- 39:42SPEAKER_07: No.
- 39:42SPEAKER_06: French was never bigger than Drake in any defense.
- 39:45SPEAKER_08: French's biggest song.
- 39:48SPEAKER_07: Unforgettable picture and Drake.
- 39:49SPEAKER_07: Drake and Wayne on it.
- 39:51SPEAKER_07: What's up?
- 39:52SPEAKER_07: Pop that.
- 39:53SPEAKER_07: I'm talking about Unforgettable wasn't bigger than Pop That?
- 39:55SPEAKER_08: I don't I don't know.
- 39:56SPEAKER_07: I don't because it's Unforgettable went worldwide.
- 39:59SPEAKER_08: It's the streaming error versus the records error.
- 40:02SPEAKER_08: I don't know, but Miss Info can find that out for us eventually.
- 40:05SPEAKER_07: That's what I'm about to say.
- 40:06SPEAKER_07: Because Unforgettable went worldwide.
- 40:08SPEAKER_08: Pop that was his biggest song.
- 40:10SPEAKER_08: But I don't know after Unforgettable, because streaming has fucked up everything in hip hop.
- 40:13SPEAKER_07: That's my thing.
- 40:14SPEAKER_07: Unforgettable went streaming worldwide.
- 40:16SPEAKER_08: You don't think Pop That did?
- 40:18SPEAKER_07: Not worldwide.
- 40:18SPEAKER_08: Nigga, of course it did.
- 40:20SPEAKER_08: That shit had Wayne, Drake, and Ross on there.
- 40:22SPEAKER_07: I don't think that shit went worldwide.
- 40:23SPEAKER_07: I think that went throughout the United States.
- 40:24SPEAKER_08: And look at it, he needed a sway Lee on his track to be worldwide.
- 40:28SPEAKER_08: Nigga, French Montana don't got one song by himself that is worldwide.
- 40:32SPEAKER_06: Hell no.
- 40:32SPEAKER_06: Coke Boy ain't chopping, ain't topping uh in my feelings.
- 40:37SPEAKER_08: Alright, so also the Carter Five has been announced by Wayne's Camp.
- 40:42SPEAKER_07: Now, this is my thing, because I'm glad you brought that up.
- 40:45SPEAKER_07: Do you think he's gonna go back?
- 40:47SPEAKER_07: Like, do you think he's gonna release two copies?
- 40:49SPEAKER_07: Because the Carter, the Carter's not a bad car.
- 40:52SPEAKER_07: That's what I'm saying.
- 40:52SPEAKER_07: The Carter Five, technically, if he wrote stuff back then, could be outdated.
- 40:57SPEAKER_07: So do you think he would be like they haven't released it yet?
- 41:00SPEAKER_07: But that's what I'm saying do you think he would release that for his fan just to be like this is what it was?
- 41:04SPEAKER_07: I feel like when he didn't revamp the album.
- 41:08SPEAKER_08: But I'm saying like he revamped, he went in.
- 41:10SPEAKER_07: We can't talk over each other, but we don't hear it.
- 41:12SPEAKER_08: I feel like he went in, revamped the album.
- 41:14SPEAKER_08: Okay, this kind of don't make sense to right now, or he just added to it.
- 41:17SPEAKER_07: But that's what I'm saying.
- 41:17SPEAKER_07: Don't you think it would be a better, a better business tactic to really give me, give the fans the old content that we wanted to hear?
- 41:25SPEAKER_07: No.
- 41:25SPEAKER_07: But that also messes up numbers if you look at it because it's gonna be two separate albums.
- 41:29SPEAKER_06: You have to look at it this way music changes every three to five years.
- 41:33SPEAKER_06: So the Carter 5 was supposed to be out how many years ago?
- 41:37SPEAKER_06: The songs are fucking dated on that.
- 41:39SPEAKER_06: Did you say you think it's not a part of Young Money anymore?
- 41:43SPEAKER_06: Now he is.
- 41:43unknown: The latest, yeah.
- 41:46SPEAKER_01: Scorpion was released under Young Money, Cash Money.
- 41:48SPEAKER_06: Yeah, but after Scorpion.
- 41:50SPEAKER_06: That was his last album on that.
- 41:52SPEAKER_01: No, I think he did not have a lot of people.
- 41:56SPEAKER_04: OVO in the different distributions.
- 41:58SPEAKER_04: He can't go nowhere.
- 41:59SPEAKER_04: Yes, he can't.
- 42:00SPEAKER_01: Well, we'll see when he releases his next album, I guess.
- 42:02SPEAKER_06: He was signed to a five, he was signed to a five record deal.
- 42:07SPEAKER_06: In that five records, he had a two-album extension.
- 42:11SPEAKER_06: This is his seventh album.
- 42:12SPEAKER_06: He's done with this.
- 42:13SPEAKER_01: Oh, so now he he he fulfilled his contract, guys.
- 42:16SPEAKER_01: He fulfilled his contract, guys.
- 42:18SPEAKER_06: They were talking about that.
- 42:20SPEAKER_04: But that's the thing.
- 42:21SPEAKER_04: Drake has been trying to get to Rock Nation for a while.
- 42:23SPEAKER_07: Now this is the thing.
- 42:24SPEAKER_07: Do you think OVO?
- 42:26SPEAKER_06: OVO.
- 42:26SPEAKER_06: Do you think he's just gonna get a distribution deal now?
- 42:29SPEAKER_07: But that's what I'm saying.
- 42:30SPEAKER_07: Do you think now that Wayne's young money that he could probably sign maybe extra extensions?
- 42:36SPEAKER_07: If he has any loyalty to Wayne, he's gonna re-up.
- 42:38SPEAKER_06: Yeah, well, yeah, see, now that's it.
- 42:40SPEAKER_04: But you see, um I think he's been trying to get from under Wayne's wing for a long time.
- 42:44SPEAKER_04: No.
- 42:44SPEAKER_04: No.
- 42:44SPEAKER_06: I feel like he's loyal to Wayne.
- 42:48SPEAKER_07: I feel like he was trying to get from under Birdman, and the only from getting under Birdman was from getting under from Wayne.
- 42:54SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
- 42:54SPEAKER_04: Okay, I see you there.
- 42:55SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 42:55SPEAKER_07: I feel like that's what the city was.
- 42:56SPEAKER_07: Unfortunately, he has to do both.
- 42:58SPEAKER_08: Is it just a sidebar?
- 42:58SPEAKER_08: I think Nikki might be in a 360 deal.
- 43:01SPEAKER_08: Just a sidebar.
- 43:02SPEAKER_08: But I was saying, is she even still sound under young album?
- 43:04SPEAKER_08: Absolutely.
- 43:05SPEAKER_08: I don't even know if I know.
- 43:06SPEAKER_07: How many fucking albums she gotta do?
- 43:07SPEAKER_07: No, no.
- 43:07SPEAKER_07: How many albums does Nikki have?
- 43:09SPEAKER_01: Nikki said she didn't, because didn't Remy say that about Nikki?
- 43:11SPEAKER_01: That she had a 360 deal in her song, and then Nikki was like, I don't know.
- 43:15SPEAKER_01: Everybody said they don't got a 360 game.
- 43:16SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
- 43:17SPEAKER_01: Okay, that's true.
- 43:17SPEAKER_01: How many albums did you say?
- 43:19SPEAKER_01: We don't know what to believe anymore.
- 43:20SPEAKER_07: Nikki only got three albums.
- 43:22SPEAKER_04: Like the great Ye said.
- 43:24SPEAKER_04: So what the fuck?
- 43:26SPEAKER_07: Pink print reloaded.
- 43:28SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
- 43:28SPEAKER_07: That counts?
- 43:30SPEAKER_07: So that's all she got.
- 43:31SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
- 43:32SPEAKER_07: Nikki, you sound like a fan.
- 43:33SPEAKER_07: I am a fan.
- 43:33SPEAKER_07: So she got Pink Print.
- 43:34SPEAKER_07: Pink print reloaded.
- 43:36SPEAKER_07: And when the Queen was it.
- 43:38SPEAKER_07: So what was all those other shits she was dropping before?
- 43:40SPEAKER_07: What other shits?
- 43:40SPEAKER_07: What are you talking about?
- 43:41SPEAKER_01: She was in features and you know, she had different songs of other people.
- 43:43SPEAKER_01: Nigga, she don't got no albums.
- 43:45SPEAKER_07: I could have sworn she was in dropping tape or something.
- 43:46SPEAKER_08: Which bitch you know made a million off a mixtape?
- 43:51SPEAKER_08: That's it.
- 43:52SPEAKER_08: But yeah, so she technically was fucked.
- 43:54SPEAKER_08: She might if she's in the 360 deal.
- 43:55SPEAKER_08: Anyways, so Cardi Five.
- 43:59SPEAKER_08: How do we feel?
- 44:00SPEAKER_06: Well, I'm gonna put it this way.
- 44:04SPEAKER_06: Let's hold that comment real quick.
- 44:06SPEAKER_06: Or I hold that thought real quick.
- 44:07SPEAKER_06: Okay.
- 44:07SPEAKER_06: Did you hear the uh the Swiss beats on?
- 44:11SPEAKER_06: Little Wayne collab with Swiss Beats on that song.
- 44:14SPEAKER_06: No, is it a good song?
- 44:17SPEAKER_06: I didn't listen to the whole thing.
- 44:18SPEAKER_06: The minute or so snippet that I heard, it actually sounds good.
- 44:25SPEAKER_05: It sounded like vintage Wayne.
- 44:27SPEAKER_06: It sounded like Vintage Wayne, but current.
- 44:29SPEAKER_07: Okay.
- 44:30SPEAKER_07: Like, to me, when I heard it, it reminded me of when I saw him as something he did, like the old Mr.
- 44:36SPEAKER_07: Carter, Miss Officer, all of them sort of.
- 44:38SPEAKER_07: I was like, yo, this is Wayne.
- 44:40SPEAKER_07: What is Lil Wayne's best song to you?
- 44:41unknown: How did you hear that?
- 44:42SPEAKER_07: Got money.
- 44:45SPEAKER_08: For real?
- 44:47SPEAKER_07: They released a song.
- 44:48SPEAKER_07: It's what?
- 44:48SPEAKER_07: The song's released.
- 44:49SPEAKER_07: The song's out.
- 44:50SPEAKER_07: That's the that's that's the Swiss Beats.
- 44:52SPEAKER_06: Swiss Beats dropped the album for his birthday, which was a couple weeks ago.
- 44:56SPEAKER_07: No, the whole album's not out.
- 44:57SPEAKER_07: The whole album's not out.
- 44:59SPEAKER_07: He released a song, and it's a um, it's what a lot of these artists are doing.
- 45:03SPEAKER_07: Like they'll release a single off the album to let you know the album's coming.
- 45:06SPEAKER_07: But when you go to iTunes to listen to it, it'll show the name, yeah, it'll show the names of that song that's on the album, but you can't listen to those until he really fully releases.
- 45:17SPEAKER_07: I'm gonna go with Amelie.
- 45:19SPEAKER_07: Nah.
- 45:19SPEAKER_07: Oh, okay.
- 45:20SPEAKER_04: Best by numbers or opinion.
- 45:22SPEAKER_08: Your personal opinion.
- 45:23SPEAKER_08: Personal opinion.
- 45:23SPEAKER_08: I can listen to a Millie ten times a few.
- 45:25SPEAKER_08: I don't have a best Lil Wayne album.
- 45:27SPEAKER_08: What is the first song you go to when you're you want to listen to Wayne?
- 45:31SPEAKER_08: I go to Pandora and put in Lil Wayne.
- 45:33SPEAKER_06: Anything on the Drought series mixtape.
- 45:36SPEAKER_06: Okay.
- 45:36SPEAKER_08: No, that's a that's a um.
- 45:37SPEAKER_08: Alright, so mixtape for me.
- 45:39SPEAKER_04: My number one mixtape for Lil Wayne is uh Dedication Three.
- 45:44SPEAKER_04: Dedication three, then uh no ceiling.
- 45:46SPEAKER_08: Shoot a nigga in his thigh and leg and let him catch up with my maze.
- 45:50SPEAKER_04: Yeah, Lil Wayne is uh Dedication three is way underrated.
- 45:55SPEAKER_08: My favorite Lil Wayne mixtape might be sorry for the wait, the first one.
- 46:00SPEAKER_08: I really love that shit.
- 46:02SPEAKER_08: Sorry for the wait, the first one's amazing.
- 46:04SPEAKER_08: Practice made perfect.
- 46:07SPEAKER_08: Oh, don't do it now.
- 46:09SPEAKER_08: Hey, take your time.
- 46:10SPEAKER_08: Collect your thoughts.
- 46:14SPEAKER_08: Um, but since we're speaking about, you know, young money, I think we should talk about Queen Radio.
- 46:19SPEAKER_04: Practice made perfect, been relaxed in that rehearsal on my motherfucking professional.
- 46:23SPEAKER_08: Alright, Wayne.
- 46:24SPEAKER_08: We have a little way in the building.
- 46:26SPEAKER_04: Yeah, she actually said that pretty much as fast as I heard it so many times.
- 46:29SPEAKER_04: Practice made perfect been relaxing that rehearsal on my motherfucking professionale.
- 46:33SPEAKER_08: Queen Radio.
- 46:34SPEAKER_08: After the Cardi Nikki Brawl, New York Fashion Week, Blase Blah, she had Funk Flex up there.
- 46:40SPEAKER_08: Um let me uh let me um Miss uh Miss Info give us the info on that.
- 46:50unknown: Okay.
- 46:51SPEAKER_01: Oh, so remember the comment that you guys brought up um last podcast about about um yeah, about her talking about that dead woman's child, calling him uh calling the child a monkey, blah blah blah.
- 47:05SPEAKER_01: So the first thing they did, they had the woman on the phone.
- 47:09SPEAKER_01: So what happened is the woman said that she commented on one of Cardi's videos, because you know how everybody was ragging on Cardi about fixing her teeth, and the girl just commented, like, you know, I think she was saying, like, you know, it doesn't matter what anybody says, but fix them, like, you know, if you want to fix them, like don't just not fix them just because everybody's telling you to.
- 47:24SPEAKER_01: But so then Cardi, you know, um went to her page because I guess she had something on the um the bio about her her dead son.
- 47:31SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so then that's when comment Cardi commented all that shit.
- 47:34SPEAKER_01: So they had the woman on the radio explaining that situation.
- 47:36SPEAKER_01: That's hilarious.
- 47:37SPEAKER_01: So that was the first thing Nikki, there was the first thing that Nikki brought up.
- 47:41SPEAKER_01: And then, you know, she was talking about those strippers too that DK Cardi had um put a hit on or whatever.
- 47:48SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I heard that DK.
- 47:50SPEAKER_00: That's why I laughed when I said it.
- 47:52SPEAKER_06: Shout outs to uh Dominican following Team Kellok.
- 47:56SPEAKER_00: We got the whole c so yeah, so Nikki K.
- 47:58SPEAKER_06: If you don't know people, we got uh two hookahs in here burning.
- 48:01SPEAKER_06: Uh shout out to Zap and Sir Chubbs.
- 48:03SPEAKER_08: Fuck both them niggas, number one.
- 48:04SPEAKER_08: The hookah's gonna be right next to me when they burn it.
- 48:06SPEAKER_08: But continue cable.
- 48:08SPEAKER_08: Deal with it, Darkie.
- 48:09SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so Nikki, Nikki was Nikki also Nikki also brought up that drama that Cardi had those um two women um beaten up by men or whatever.
- 48:18SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 48:19SPEAKER_01: Um, because you know, one of them was fucking with office.
- 48:21SPEAKER_01: So she was like Oh exactly.
- 48:22SPEAKER_01: She was like, How you gonna, you know, how you gonna target the women about something your man did or whatever.
- 48:27SPEAKER_01: And supposedly Nikki knows those strippers too, but you know, she know those bitches now.
- 48:32SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
- 48:33SPEAKER_08: So, yeah.
- 48:34SPEAKER_08: They were actually barking.
- 48:35SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so she was just saying, she was just saying like, you know, that she shouldn't have been doing that.
- 48:39SPEAKER_01: Like, listen, you're successful, like, you know, stopping the bag thing.
- 48:42SPEAKER_01: Yeah, exactly, exactly.
- 48:43SPEAKER_01: She's the one that was actually stopping the bags because she fucked up those strippers' money.
- 48:47SPEAKER_08: Like what was Flex doing there?
- 48:50SPEAKER_08: He wasn't even probably dropping map bombs.
- 48:54SPEAKER_08: I think Queen Radio is Nikki's next transformation.
- 48:58SPEAKER_08: I think she's gonna turn into not really a because look, podcasting, literally, we are sitting here doing a podcast.
- 49:04SPEAKER_08: This we're doing this for a reason.
- 49:05SPEAKER_08: Yeah, this is becoming the new outlet, and just like Joe Budden, who revived his whole fucking career by becoming a media podcast guy.
- 49:13SPEAKER_06: And a Twitter guy.
- 49:14SPEAKER_08: Yeah, and a Twitter guy.
- 49:15SPEAKER_08: I think that Nikki is kind of putting her foot into the city.
- 49:18SPEAKER_04: Nikki's trying to replace Wendy Williams.
- 49:20SPEAKER_04: She passed out this year.
- 49:21SPEAKER_04: She's like, you know what, Wendy Williams on the way out.
- 49:23SPEAKER_04: We're gonna do this podcast, and then maybe I'll get a show.
- 49:26SPEAKER_08: Yeah, I don't, but you see, I don't know if the show also had the same point.
- 49:30SPEAKER_08: They also have the same DJ, just to put that out there.
- 49:32SPEAKER_08: Oh, really?
- 49:32SPEAKER_08: Who's that?
- 49:33SPEAKER_08: DJ Booth, my homie.
- 49:34SPEAKER_04: Yeah, DJ Booth is Minaj, Wendy, Wendy Williams.
- 49:39SPEAKER_05: And why does Wendy Williams need a DJ for the show?
- 49:43SPEAKER_04: I mean, you need someone to handle mixing.
- 49:44SPEAKER_04: She plays music?
- 49:45SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
- 49:45SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and the show she plays, yeah, some of her music from her album, too.
- 49:48SPEAKER_08: Okay, so you gotta remember.
- 49:50SPEAKER_01: So she's like promoting.
- 49:51SPEAKER_01: Especially when they cut it out.
- 49:54SPEAKER_06: They have to keep the crowd, you know, you should be.
- 49:58SPEAKER_01: No, no, no, no, no.
- 49:59SPEAKER_01: I said she's using her outlet to promote herself.
- 50:02SPEAKER_01: I'm sorry.
- 50:02SPEAKER_01: Oh, I was about to say, promote her album.
- 50:05SPEAKER_01: No, so like she's using the Queen Radio to promote her own shit, too.
- 50:08SPEAKER_01: So she could be developing it for that reason as well.
- 50:11SPEAKER_01: Self-promote.
- 50:12SPEAKER_08: I'm a feminist.
- 50:13SPEAKER_08: You have to be a feminist now.
- 50:14SPEAKER_08: Of course, of course.
- 50:15SPEAKER_08: Do you think that it's fucked up that everybody is saying if they're women, they shouldn't have been doing it.
- 50:22SPEAKER_08: Because Nikki kind of played that same card too.
- 50:24SPEAKER_08: Yeah, like she shouldn't have been doing it.
- 50:25SPEAKER_08: And people call her pussy for that, which I don't necessarily uh, you know, apply to that narrative.
- 50:29SPEAKER_08: But how do you feel?
- 50:30SPEAKER_08: Do you think it's fucked up that just because they're women they're not allowed to fight at Fashion Week?
- 50:34SPEAKER_01: So Kelly Rowland also commented on this and I actually agree with what Kelly said because she was saying, you know, just like me, I love Nikki, I love Cardi, right?
- 50:43SPEAKER_01: But she was just saying that we're at a, you know, because she mentioned the thing Serena's doing right now.
- 50:48SPEAKER_01: She's trying to, she's trying to exactly um, she's trying to push her agenda with women's equality in terms of what happened at the match, right?
- 50:54SPEAKER_01: So um Kelly was saying that just right now, it's not the time to, you know, to exactly to be beefing, or just because they're just trying to promote a more positive image about women.
- 51:06SPEAKER_01: But yes, it is not fair that they can't do all that shit right now because they're women.
- 51:12SPEAKER_01: Like if they if that's how they want to handle their business, like go ahead.
- 51:15SPEAKER_01: But she was just saying it's not just that's not the way to do it right at this time.
- 51:19SPEAKER_08: I have a follow-up question for the room.
- 51:21SPEAKER_08: Why can't there be two successful women artists in hip hop at the same time?
- 51:25SPEAKER_04: That's exactly what I was gonna do.
- 51:26SPEAKER_04: That's on them.
- 51:27SPEAKER_06: I think that's on the females or the parties involved directly.
- 51:31SPEAKER_04: We could be men and just shoot off the top and say what we feel, but it in the end, just like AG said about last week when we were talking about nobody wins when the family feuds, it's the same thing, it's recognizing society around you.
- 51:44SPEAKER_04: When you know when you know that there's very few people like yourself that has reached a certain uh a certain level in life or in a certain level in society, you should understand when you should separate things at at a certain time.
- 51:58SPEAKER_04: Like they say my idiom again, there's a time and place for everything.
- 52:02SPEAKER_07: I should write these down.
- 52:03SPEAKER_07: I feel like it's more of a of an emotional ego problem.
- 52:07SPEAKER_07: Because if you realize, as like a male artist, they're more like, alright, it's always a competition for us to outbeat you.
- 52:15SPEAKER_07: It's never like we can't share the throne.
- 52:17SPEAKER_07: It's always more if you put out a hit, I'm gonna try to put out a hit harder.
- 52:20SPEAKER_07: With these female artists, it's like, no, like I'm gonna just do what I have to do to beat you in any way, form.
- 52:27SPEAKER_07: But not just musically wise.
- 52:32SPEAKER_04: Every artist in the same in the same level of things do that.
- 52:35SPEAKER_04: Because just like Eminem, he has to think about, he has to look at it in in the method and perceive it properly to see how he's gonna address something.
- 52:43SPEAKER_01: Okay, but the issue is it's because there's not so many women at the top, it seems like it's always one-on-one, but there's so many successful women.
- 52:50SPEAKER_04: The issue at hand is should she should that pro should that had transpired the way it did at that venue.
- 52:59SPEAKER_04: The way women are for them, they're black women at that.
- 53:02SPEAKER_04: I don't give a fuck if they're Spanish.
- 53:04SPEAKER_04: I couldn't I I consider Spanish and black the same household.
- 53:08SPEAKER_08: We're all from the transatlantic slave trade.
- 53:10SPEAKER_04: I say at a venue like this that was not uh for us by us, you should not have conducted yourself in that manner.
- 53:17SPEAKER_08: I don't like I don't like that because if it was for us by us, you'd be okay with them fighting it.
- 53:21SPEAKER_08: Fucking that just makes that makes black people.
- 53:23SPEAKER_08: Fuck these white people, fuck these white people.
- 53:26SPEAKER_08: They weren't coke in their events.
- 53:27SPEAKER_08: Why can't we fight at their events like that?
- 53:28SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
- 53:29SPEAKER_01: White people are just more sneaky with their bullshit.
- 53:31SPEAKER_01: Black people like, you know.
- 53:32SPEAKER_08: Yeah, we if if she could fight at the Source Awards, they should be able to fight at Fashion Week.
- 53:38SPEAKER_08: You gotta stop looking up to these white people as some kind of superior race.
- 53:40SPEAKER_08: Number one, the sun's good in the if the sun kills you, you are not supposed to fucking be.
- 53:45SPEAKER_08: No, let me stop.
- 53:45SPEAKER_08: I'm about to put my mask on the back.
- 53:46SPEAKER_08: But the the way the way I look at it, the way like two women can't be at the top, is because the way women are wired different than men, in a sense.
- 53:53SPEAKER_04: Oh therefore you shouldn't speak on it.
- 53:55SPEAKER_04: Let me help you out.
- 53:56SPEAKER_04: That's cool.
- 53:56SPEAKER_08: I'm not in relationship, but I can spoke I can speak about it.
- 53:58SPEAKER_08: Okay, so relationships when what when a woman goes to an event or something like that, your opinion, she also she always wants to be the center of attention or like not all women, no, not all women, no, but look, even though we disagree, but even if you get his thought out, but even if you like in a relationship, you want to be the eye of that person or the eye of that situation.
- 54:18SPEAKER_08: No, don't make it in a relationship, thank you.
- 54:20SPEAKER_08: I'm talking about in general.
- 54:22SPEAKER_08: I'm talking about in general.
- 54:24SPEAKER_08: So, and I think I think a lot of it is also fueled by fans, like you know how everybody has a hive.
- 54:29SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
- 54:29SPEAKER_08: Okay, they'd be fair.
- 54:30SPEAKER_08: The Drake hive doesn't go against the future hive.
- 54:33SPEAKER_08: Like, so this since no, they did.
- 54:35SPEAKER_08: So people were saying that, oh, this is so this tape feeds sounds like Drake featuring future, not future and Drake as a collab.
- 54:42SPEAKER_05: Like the fact that they're women and it's also not 25 female rappers that are at the top.
- 54:47SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
- 54:47SPEAKER_01: That's my that's my own.
- 54:48SPEAKER_05: So like the fan, the fans pit them against each other.
- 54:52SPEAKER_08: They're like, yes.
- 54:53SPEAKER_08: It's a large, it's a lot, it's a large conspiracy.
- 54:56SPEAKER_08: I don't think the fans could force me or you to get into a fight because Casanova's fans were literally telling him you need to kill 6ix9ine.
- 55:07SPEAKER_08: And they did the exact opposite because money was the motive.
- 55:11SPEAKER_08: So I don't know if I can necessarily blame the fans.
- 55:14SPEAKER_08: I just feel like it's a good idea.
- 55:15SPEAKER_08: Those are male fans, though.
- 55:16SPEAKER_08: It's like against female fans, but it's like females.
- 55:18SPEAKER_01: Because Nikki, Nikki's supposedly on the radio, she Nikki on the radio show said that she talked to you know, already in person, said that she needs to develop thick skin, especially if she's gonna be in this business, because people are gonna say a lot of shit about you, you know, but you just you can't respond to everything.
- 55:33SPEAKER_08: Women tune into.
- 55:34SPEAKER_08: I just feel like Remy like that title.
- 55:36SPEAKER_08: Remy says something very dope, and I can't remember where she said it on.
- 55:39SPEAKER_08: It might have been on uh Joe Buddons uh the show.
- 55:43SPEAKER_06: When she called Joe Buttons a pussy?
- 55:44SPEAKER_08: That too, but she said that when Nikki was throwing that all these bitches is my son's shit, they spoke and she said, Yo, I don't take offense to that.
- 55:55SPEAKER_08: This is rap.
- 55:55SPEAKER_08: Yeah, you're supposed to feel like that.
- 55:58SPEAKER_08: The problem she had with Nikki was her blocking her from showing up to certain things, or hey, if I don't win this award, I'm not coming.
- 56:06SPEAKER_08: So y'all either give me the award or suck dick, basically.
- 56:10SPEAKER_08: They want Nikki there for ratings.
- 56:12SPEAKER_08: So um Remy looks at this as yo, you're blocking another woman from ever reaching those levels.
- 56:18SPEAKER_08: Instead of trying to lifting her up, she's like sort of keeping herself in that.
- 56:21SPEAKER_08: Iggy Azalea never have a song together.
- 56:23SPEAKER_08: I feel like the time that Nikki lost the MTV award for best female artists.
- 56:28SPEAKER_08: Iggy Zela got it there one year because she was cooking.
- 56:31SPEAKER_08: She was she had that fancy song by herself.
- 56:33SPEAKER_08: It was a single by herself, no feature, and she was cooking.
- 56:35SPEAKER_08: And Nikki never said, yo, shout out Iggy Ezilla.
- 56:38SPEAKER_08: Let me make a song with Iggy Zale.
- 56:39SPEAKER_07: I feel like it's entitlement.
- 56:40SPEAKER_07: Think about it like this: when you go to a party and you know like you could get in or whatever the case may be, what do you try to do?
- 56:47SPEAKER_07: You try to pull that leg.
- 56:48SPEAKER_07: You try to see what you can do.
- 56:50SPEAKER_07: If you feel like you're entitled to something, you know how much somebody tells you you're not, you're gonna try to do it.
- 56:55SPEAKER_08: Why do you pay for a party?
- 56:57SPEAKER_07: If it's a regular club, I'll pay.
- 56:58SPEAKER_07: If it's somebody I'll promote, I don't think I should pay.
- 57:00SPEAKER_07: Because I feel entitled.
- 57:01SPEAKER_07: Why do you think women don't have to pay to go to parties?
- 57:04SPEAKER_07: Because they feel like they're entitled to it.
- 57:05SPEAKER_07: No, no, no.
- 57:05SPEAKER_07: That's not the reason.
- 57:06SPEAKER_07: So why?
- 57:06SPEAKER_08: Because they want, listen.
- 57:07SPEAKER_08: Because they attract the more women.
- 57:08SPEAKER_08: That's it.
- 57:08SPEAKER_08: That's the bottom line.
- 57:10SPEAKER_08: If you go to any event and there's 70 free niggas in there, the promoter is gonna be like, this ain't making me no fucking money.
- 57:16SPEAKER_08: But if I have 70 free women there, I can charge you$80 again inside.
- 57:20SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
- 57:20SPEAKER_08: It's 70 women in there.
- 57:22SPEAKER_06: That's why they usually make ladies free.
- 57:24SPEAKER_08: Exactly.
- 57:24SPEAKER_08: It's a commerce thing, it has nothing to do with women.
- 57:27SPEAKER_08: It's also, it's also you can blame niggas for that matter of fact.
- 57:31SPEAKER_08: I'm a feminist.
- 57:34SPEAKER_06: And it's also enticement for men to spend money because they know that men are gonna buy women drinks.
- 57:39SPEAKER_06: So that's double the m the double the drinks.
- 57:41SPEAKER_06: Like we can lose out on the door, but we're gonna make it up ten times another.
- 57:47SPEAKER_08: Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
- 57:50SPEAKER_06: I don't know them personally, nigga.
- 57:52SPEAKER_06: He is a feminist and he can fucking say it.
- 57:54SPEAKER_06: But the problem if I just think the feminist, it's also a thing.
- 58:00SPEAKER_05: It's also a ranking kind of thing.
- 58:01SPEAKER_05: He does not know.
- 58:03SPEAKER_06: The long pause, we saw that last week.
- 58:04SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it's gonna fuck you up in the relationship.
- 58:07SPEAKER_05: It's also it's also a ranking.
- 58:12SPEAKER_05: It's also like this guy ready.
- 58:15SPEAKER_06: Oh nigga, I'm not ready.
- 58:17SPEAKER_08: It's also a ranking thing, meaning that if somebody outclasses you, you can't you feel like you can't go against them in a sense like Nikki Nikki would never go against Beyonce because she outclasses her.
- 58:30SPEAKER_05: So you're saying beneath her.
- 58:35SPEAKER_06: Are you saying that the battle between Nikki and Cardi B in Nikki's instance, she is fighting downward?
- 58:42SPEAKER_05: In a sense, yeah, but all she's fighting downwards because she feels threatened, in a sense.
- 58:46SPEAKER_06: Right, right.
- 58:46SPEAKER_06: But I'm saying, yeah, so you're saying, but she's fighting downward.
- 58:48SPEAKER_06: Yes.
- 58:49SPEAKER_06: She shouldn't have to fight at all because she's above her.
- 58:51SPEAKER_06: Thank you.
- 58:52SPEAKER_08: But she feels like the footstep coming up behind her ass.
- 58:56SPEAKER_08: Nigga, that's why.
- 58:57SPEAKER_08: Would Drake respond to you or me if we made a disc record against him?
- 59:00SPEAKER_07: Depending on how you do it.
- 59:02SPEAKER_07: No, he wouldn't.
- 59:02SPEAKER_07: Yeah, that's because Drake had to fight to read them for the city.
- 59:04SPEAKER_07: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
- 59:06SPEAKER_08: That's not a good thing.
- 59:08SPEAKER_08: Listen, he would reply to you.
- 59:09SPEAKER_05: Listen, wait.
- 59:10SPEAKER_05: He would reply to you in a sub.
- 59:12SPEAKER_08: No, but okay, that's funny.
- 59:14SPEAKER_08: But look, there was a Canadian rapper that said Drake stole his idea for song flow and all this.
- 59:19SPEAKER_08: Drake made a diss song about Drake and Drake responded.
- 59:22SPEAKER_08: In what song?
- 59:23SPEAKER_08: I don't know the name of the song.
- 59:24SPEAKER_08: It was on Twitter.
- 59:25SPEAKER_08: It was on Academics page.
- 59:26SPEAKER_08: It was a song, though.
- 59:27SPEAKER_08: It was a diss song towards Drake.
- 59:28SPEAKER_08: And Drake actually in what song?
- 59:30SPEAKER_08: Drake responded with a song.
- 59:31SPEAKER_08: No, but he was, I'm trying to, there's different types of responses.
- 59:33SPEAKER_08: The response is a response.
- 59:34SPEAKER_08: Hip hop is only on he responded on Twitter.
- 59:39SPEAKER_08: Did he respond on wax?
- 59:41SPEAKER_08: There's no money, you're not getting paid because you have 50,000 new followers on Twitter.
- 59:45SPEAKER_08: If I see your name in the world.
- 59:47SPEAKER_08: Every follower is a dollar sign.
- 59:48SPEAKER_08: No, it's not.
- 59:49SPEAKER_08: No, it is absolutely.
- 59:50SPEAKER_08: How much money do you have in your pocket right now?
- 59:51SPEAKER_08: None.
- 59:52SPEAKER_08: How many followers you got?
- 59:53SPEAKER_08: So how do they dollar size, my nigga?
- 59:55SPEAKER_08: No, because those those followers equate to followers.
- 59:58SPEAKER_08: No, you're not making any sense, bro.
- 59:59SPEAKER_08: It doesn't make any sense because if Drake responded to that nigga on one, that's also a but that's also a stream because now Drake responds to it.
- 1:00:05SPEAKER_08: I'm gonna listen to the song.
- 1:00:06SPEAKER_08: Did you listen to the song?
- 1:00:07SPEAKER_08: Yes.
- 1:00:07SPEAKER_08: Did you listen to the song?
- 1:00:08SPEAKER_07: I don't even know that did somebody how to fucking say.
- 1:00:09SPEAKER_08: If Drake would have said this nigga's name, this nigga's the song, then I would have gone back.
- 1:00:13SPEAKER_08: City something in a song, then the streams.
- 1:00:17SPEAKER_08: Even if the nigga said it on stage.
- 1:00:20SPEAKER_04: Just about to just say that same exactly.
- 1:00:22SPEAKER_04: Machine gun Kelly, I did not know he existed until Eminem.
- 1:00:26SPEAKER_04: Look at that name.
- 1:00:27SPEAKER_08: You don't even know the name of the rapper Drake is talking about.
- 1:00:29SPEAKER_08: What's the name of the rapper you listened to the song?
- 1:00:31SPEAKER_08: This happened like eight months ago.
- 1:00:32SPEAKER_08: But if you listen to the song, you don't know the name of the rapper.
- 1:00:34SPEAKER_08: You're proving my point.
- 1:00:35SPEAKER_08: I gave him a stream.
- 1:00:36SPEAKER_08: You still don't know who that person is.
- 1:00:38SPEAKER_08: I gave him a stream, though.
- 1:00:46SPEAKER_07: Because I ain't gonna lie, Machine Gun Kelly was um trending for the week on iTunes.
- 1:00:51SPEAKER_08: There's a Twitter page that I follow called Rap by Numbers.
- 1:00:53SPEAKER_08: Shout out Rap by Numbers.
- 1:00:54SPEAKER_08: This shit showed you Machine Guns Kelly's streams after Eminem mentioned him in kamikaze, after his this song came out, when Eminem dissed him, his streams went down because Eminem put the kibosh on that bullshit.
- 1:01:07SPEAKER_08: Once you mention somebody in a song, bro, that's it.
- 1:01:10SPEAKER_08: If you're not gonna mention yo, social media is cool, bro.
- 1:01:12SPEAKER_08: I understand what you're saying.
- 1:01:13SPEAKER_08: 50,000 new followers, great.
- 1:01:15SPEAKER_08: But if you don't know how to finesse 50,000 followers into 50,000 dollars, you it don't make no sense.
- 1:01:19SPEAKER_08: But 50,000 listens on a song, and somebody going to listen to your song, I could go to a record executive and be like, yo, Drake said my name.
- 1:01:26SPEAKER_08: I'm lit now.
- 1:01:27SPEAKER_04: That's exactly why the person I won't name names right now, his rainbow-haired motherfucker, is making so much fucking money.
- 1:01:35SPEAKER_04: Trolling by trolling is a career.
- 1:01:38SPEAKER_08: That's it.
- 1:01:39SPEAKER_07: Nine for nine on the billboard.
- 1:01:40SPEAKER_08: But there's other dudes out here.
- 1:01:42SPEAKER_08: About to be 10 for 10 when you drop dozen followers on Instagram, and can't turn that into$100,000.
- 1:01:46SPEAKER_08: And that's like that song.
- 1:01:47SPEAKER_08: Oh my god, stupid.
- 1:01:49SPEAKER_08: I didn't know there was a new song.
- 1:01:51SPEAKER_08: It didn't come out yet.
- 1:01:52SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
- 1:01:53SPEAKER_08: We're not gonna talk about it.
- 1:01:53SPEAKER_08: We're not gonna why the fuck do we even name it?
- 1:01:54SPEAKER_08: Yeah, so I guess back to the.
- 1:01:56SPEAKER_08: Because that brings New York back.
- 1:01:57SPEAKER_07: Bobby Schmerder style.
- 1:01:58unknown: Oh, yeah.
- 1:01:59SPEAKER_00: Shut the back.
- 1:02:01SPEAKER_06: Shut the brilliant bag right now.
- 1:02:04SPEAKER_06: Shut the fuck up.
- 1:02:06SPEAKER_06: That nigga ain't bringing shit back.
- 1:02:08SPEAKER_06: Okay.
- 1:02:09SPEAKER_04: That's it, man.
- 1:02:10SPEAKER_04: Like, next topic.
- 1:02:11SPEAKER_04: All right.
- 1:02:11SPEAKER_06: Um, like next topic shouts, shouts to the uh YG video, bulletproof.
- 1:02:16SPEAKER_04: I seen that shit.
- 1:02:16SPEAKER_04: That's what it's like.
- 1:02:17SPEAKER_04: Shouts to YG.
- 1:02:18SPEAKER_04: Shout out to the locks for no fucking reason.
- 1:02:20SPEAKER_04: Okay, great.
- 1:02:20SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, but just to just to finish it off on the topic.
- 1:02:23SPEAKER_01: Um Two women artists at the same time.
- 1:02:25SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I just don't know how genuine Nikki is with that shit.
- 1:02:27SPEAKER_01: Because Nikki was saying that, you know, that she told Nikki to uh she told Cardi to enjoy her blessings and all that shit.
- 1:02:34SPEAKER_01: But who knows if she's doing all that sneak shit on the side, she knows how, you know, she knows how to poke the bear.
- 1:02:39SPEAKER_01: In order to make Cardi look back, because she knows Cardi's gonna pop off at some point, so here she goes, like getting all this fucking as long as you look like the bigger person in the public eye.
- 1:02:48SPEAKER_01: Making Cardi look like she's the crazy one.
- 1:02:50SPEAKER_01: In fact, that's why she did it.
- 1:02:51SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
- 1:02:52SPEAKER_01: That's what that's what I'm saying.
- 1:02:53SPEAKER_01: Like she's acting like she's innocent, but I still want the question answered.
- 1:02:58SPEAKER_06: Not checkers.
- 1:02:59SPEAKER_06: You have to realize.
- 1:03:01SPEAKER_06: You have to fucking, you know what I'm saying?
- 1:03:04SPEAKER_06: Like, she's at a she's at a disadvantage because she feels threatened.
- 1:03:08SPEAKER_06: Everyone knows it, and everyone pretty much sees it.
- 1:03:11SPEAKER_06: You play the victim in the situation, you get the public on your side, yeah, so forth and so on.
- 1:03:16SPEAKER_08: Just to quote Nikki, she said that Cardi B has made a career off of um Paola.
- 1:03:21SPEAKER_08: Payola?
- 1:03:22SPEAKER_08: What the fuck is Payola?
- 1:03:24SPEAKER_06: Payola.
- 1:03:24SPEAKER_08: Red's about to break it down for you.
- 1:03:26SPEAKER_06: Is when you basically pay for play.
- 1:03:30SPEAKER_06: You are paying DJs for spins.
- 1:03:32SPEAKER_06: Okay, but when you pay for playola, let me let me.
- 1:03:37SPEAKER_07: Let me poke let me poke a hole in that.
- 1:03:39SPEAKER_07: You don't think almost every artist did that on there coming up?
- 1:03:43unknown: Yes.
- 1:03:45SPEAKER_05: Yes.
- 1:03:46SPEAKER_07: So why is Nicky saying something?
- 1:03:48SPEAKER_07: Because I I could tell you right now, I know for a fact.
- 1:03:50SPEAKER_08: The thing is, a lot of whatever funk flex says he didn't take or whatever, they don't play anything unless you have to come with a price.
- 1:03:56SPEAKER_08: Now, you have to pay.
- 1:03:58SPEAKER_08: But is it different when you're an established artist?
- 1:04:00SPEAKER_08: Speaking of flex, well, you know what?
- 1:04:01SPEAKER_08: I'm gonna I'm gonna.
- 1:04:02SPEAKER_08: You know what?
- 1:04:02SPEAKER_08: Even if you don't pay out your pocket, you know who pays?
- 1:04:05SPEAKER_08: Your label, your label.
- 1:04:08SPEAKER_08: Whoever you assign to pays.
- 1:04:09SPEAKER_08: So Nikki, so it's full of shit.
- 1:04:11SPEAKER_08: That's what you say.
- 1:04:12SPEAKER_08: Whatever, whatever the way the industry works, because I have to actually research these numbers and do these things, is because of the fact that your label, whoever you're assigned to, the rate the way Drake's album stays on whatever it could be the how to do it.
- 1:04:25SPEAKER_08: Not even the billboards, the radio, the radio consistent playlist here, California, wherever, you have to pay each of those radio stations.
- 1:04:32SPEAKER_08: That's how they get the that's how the radio.
- 1:04:33SPEAKER_08: If the radio station just spun records for free every day, how would they make money?
- 1:04:36SPEAKER_07: How they make advertisement?
- 1:04:39SPEAKER_07: Yeah, but you gotta you gotta think about it.
- 1:04:41SPEAKER_07: You try like we know artists.
- 1:04:43SPEAKER_06: The thing is this major, major artists who are signed to major labels.
- 1:04:49SPEAKER_06: These major labels have these radio connections.
- 1:04:54SPEAKER_06: So that's so that's those that's what it is.
- 1:04:56SPEAKER_06: It's like, okay, cool.
- 1:04:57SPEAKER_06: It's like back in the day where you had to be organic and uh homegrown artist to really flourish or whatever.
- 1:05:05SPEAKER_06: Nowadays you don't you know what I'm saying?
- 1:05:07SPEAKER_06: Nowadays you don't have to do that.
- 1:05:08SPEAKER_06: If you can ba if you can make uh if your song can pop on SoundCloud and you can get that shit played in the club or whatever, it jumps off, you you get a hundred thousand people to follow you.
- 1:05:22SPEAKER_06: These fucking labels are just basically gonna put a little bit of promotion behind you because you already did the legwork for the most part.
- 1:05:30SPEAKER_08: I don't think Drake is paying for promotion at this point.
- 1:05:33SPEAKER_06: At this point, no, because he is who he is.
- 1:05:35SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
- 1:05:35SPEAKER_08: So the I think Mike.
- 1:05:37SPEAKER_01: Do you think Nikki did, though, at the beginning of her career?
- 1:05:39SPEAKER_01: Yes, I don't know.
- 1:05:39SPEAKER_01: Do you think she did?
- 1:05:40SPEAKER_01: Because right now she's I know for fact.
- 1:05:49SPEAKER_08: And the fact that her label is paying to put her on.
- 1:05:53SPEAKER_08: Cardi's I mean, Nikki's label wasn't paying to put her on.
- 1:05:56SPEAKER_08: Once she got onto Young Money, she was on.
- 1:05:58SPEAKER_07: Like, yeah, but you gotta remember.
- 1:06:00SPEAKER_07: Cardi's not on that level yet.
- 1:06:02SPEAKER_08: No, no, no.
- 1:06:03SPEAKER_08: Her point is that they're paying to make it seem so.
- 1:06:06SPEAKER_07: That's the point.
- 1:06:07SPEAKER_04: They're paying to make sure that she has her foot in the door at the pro the proper places.
- 1:06:11SPEAKER_07: Every artist, when they first are getting up off the floor, has to do that.
- 1:06:14SPEAKER_07: Cardi's not at a level where she doesn't have to be able to do that.
- 1:06:18SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
- 1:06:18SPEAKER_07: But you understand.
- 1:06:22SPEAKER_04: A label is.
- 1:06:28SPEAKER_04: So that's why you get into certain deals that you understand that the label will take care of the money fronts to get you into the door and be seen where you need to be.
- 1:06:36SPEAKER_01: So you're saying young money didn't do that for Nikki?
- 1:06:38SPEAKER_01: Because Nikki's was already.
- 1:06:40SPEAKER_01: That was my point.
- 1:06:41SPEAKER_01: Like, was Nikki.
- 1:06:43SPEAKER_06: He hit on the exact point that I was going to make towards the second part of the statement.
- 1:06:46SPEAKER_06: So to me, I feel like you know, like to answer the question about Nikki and Young Money.
- 1:06:52SPEAKER_06: The thing is this once someone who's anyone vouches for you and you become a household name after a while, or you just blow up because of that, like once Lil Wayne and Birdman vouched for Nicki Minaj, that was the only ticket that she needed.
- 1:07:12SPEAKER_06: She can pretty much write her own ticket after that point.
- 1:07:14SPEAKER_06: So once you're vouched for in the industry, that's when you're pretty much allowed to pop.
- 1:07:19SPEAKER_06: But everyone doesn't vouch for other people.
- 1:07:22SPEAKER_06: So back to A.
- 1:07:25SPEAKER_06: G's um view on Cardi being an industry plant.
- 1:07:31SPEAKER_08: Absolutely.
- 1:07:33SPEAKER_06: They are planting her, so the label is basically paying everything to put her on a platform, to put her on a pedestal, to make her seem bigger than what she really is.
- 1:07:43SPEAKER_06: Why do you think she has fucking ghostwriters?
- 1:07:47SPEAKER_06: Versus Nikki who doesn't.
- 1:07:48SPEAKER_08: You gotta pay ghostwriters, bro.
- 1:07:50SPEAKER_06: You have to pay ghostwriters.
- 1:07:51SPEAKER_06: You have to pay people for this, that, and the third.
- 1:07:53SPEAKER_06: Like, it just doesn't happen overnight like that.
- 1:07:56SPEAKER_06: So they want to push for her songs to be successful.
- 1:07:59SPEAKER_06: Someone who, hey, boom, she's on this 360 deal.
- 1:08:02SPEAKER_08: Can I ask you a very personal question?
- 1:08:04SPEAKER_08: Would you be a Cardi B fan if you weren't a Dominican woman?
- 1:08:08SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because I liked her album.
- 1:08:10SPEAKER_01: I listen, I said I liked her debut album.
- 1:08:12SPEAKER_01: I I said I did not listen to much of her shit before like her other mixtape.
- 1:08:16SPEAKER_01: I didn't really listen to that.
- 1:08:17SPEAKER_01: I said at all.
- 1:08:19SPEAKER_01: But I just I just liked her debut album.
- 1:08:21SPEAKER_01: I'm not like a diehard fan of Nikki.
- 1:08:23SPEAKER_01: I just I liked her album.
- 1:08:24SPEAKER_08: Cardi.
- 1:08:24SPEAKER_01: Of Cardi.
- 1:08:25SPEAKER_08: I just liked her.
- 1:08:26SPEAKER_08: My girl is Dominican as well.
- 1:08:27SPEAKER_08: And she rides for her.
- 1:08:29SPEAKER_08: And I try to tell her the only reason you ride for her is because she you are also Dominican.
- 1:08:35SPEAKER_08: She disputes me on that.
- 1:08:36SPEAKER_08: She says, oh, I actually like I actually like the music, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
- 1:08:40SPEAKER_08: But you're gonna sit here and tell me that Cardi B's album, outside of the I like it like that song, and to me, I don't speak Spanish, right?
- 1:08:47SPEAKER_08: But the best verses on that song was from that Spanish nigga.
- 1:08:50SPEAKER_08: What's the name?
- 1:08:51SPEAKER_08: I don't I don't know.
- 1:08:52SPEAKER_08: Bad bunny.
- 1:08:52SPEAKER_08: Bad bunny.
- 1:08:53SPEAKER_08: That's his name?
- 1:08:54SPEAKER_08: Yeah, he had the best verse on that song.
- 1:08:56SPEAKER_01: And Jay Ballard, yeah.
- 1:08:57SPEAKER_04: That's a man's name.
- 1:08:58SPEAKER_08: Oh, sorry.
- 1:09:01SPEAKER_08: Gosh, gosh, gosh, gosh.
- 1:09:03SPEAKER_08: I'll play that gation over there.
- 1:09:04SPEAKER_08: So over there.
- 1:09:06SPEAKER_08: I think he's Puerto Rican.
- 1:09:06SPEAKER_08: Bad bunny Puerto Rican.
- 1:09:10SPEAKER_01: But no, to be honest, I didn't even like that song like that.
- 1:09:12SPEAKER_01: I didn't like because.
- 1:09:13SPEAKER_01: Shout out to your favorite song.
- 1:09:14SPEAKER_06: Shouts to Bad Bunny.
- 1:09:15SPEAKER_06: He's got Puerto Rican speaking Spanish again.
- 1:09:17SPEAKER_06: Yeah, this guy's wild.
- 1:09:18SPEAKER_06: He's out here cooking.
- 1:09:19SPEAKER_08: So, yeah, what was your like if that wasn't the song for you?
- 1:09:22SPEAKER_08: So what was the song?
- 1:09:23SPEAKER_06: We gotta add a round of applause after that.
- 1:09:26SPEAKER_06: Puerto Ricans don't speak Spanish.
- 1:09:27SPEAKER_06: We know this.
- 1:09:28SPEAKER_06: They're Italians.
- 1:09:28SPEAKER_06: Unless they come straight from or they were raised in a strong household that spoke that.
- 1:09:36SPEAKER_08: What are we talking about?
- 1:09:37SPEAKER_08: I really want to know why she likes Cardi B.
- 1:09:40SPEAKER_01: And I told her that I like so my favorite songs from her album was Be Careful.
- 1:09:46SPEAKER_01: Through your phone, and I do with Scissor.
- 1:09:48SPEAKER_01: Ring was pretty good too.
- 1:09:49SPEAKER_01: Wait, wait, Kelon.
- 1:09:52SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
- 1:09:52SPEAKER_08: You like Be Careful because it's a woman anthem about ancient.
- 1:09:55SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 1:09:56SPEAKER_08: Fucking opinion.
- 1:09:58SPEAKER_01: And through your phone.
- 1:09:58SPEAKER_01: I like Through Your Phone.
- 1:09:59SPEAKER_08: I don't even know what that song sounds like.
- 1:10:01SPEAKER_08: I'm not gonna lie to you.
- 1:10:01SPEAKER_08: And I listened to the album too.
- 1:10:02SPEAKER_08: I was forced to.
- 1:10:03SPEAKER_01: That's the thing.
- 1:10:04SPEAKER_08: I listened to I'm proud to say that I don't think that's a good idea.
- 1:10:06SPEAKER_08: Cardi has said that song sounded like it's like.
- 1:10:08SPEAKER_01: No, no, no, because he's gonna be careful.
- 1:10:10SPEAKER_01: His point was why do I like if do I like Cardi B because she's Dominican too?
- 1:10:14SPEAKER_01: And I said, no, that's not.
- 1:10:16SPEAKER_01: I wasn't a big fan of hers before this album.
- 1:10:18SPEAKER_01: I just really liked the content that she released on the album.
- 1:10:21SPEAKER_01: And she has said a lot of controversial shit, especially about black women and you know, dark-skinned women looking like roaches.
- 1:10:27SPEAKER_01: I'm a dark-skinned woman, exactly.
- 1:10:28SPEAKER_01: So it's like she said a lot of hurtful shit, especially back in the day.
- 1:10:32SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so I'm not writing for her.
- 1:10:35SPEAKER_01: Like, one, she said a lot of problematic shit, but to my point, I like that word.
- 1:10:39SPEAKER_01: I just liked I liked her debut album.
- 1:10:42SPEAKER_08: Okay.
- 1:10:42SPEAKER_01: But I'm not like I'm not writing for her, like I'm not gonna defend everyone.
- 1:10:46SPEAKER_01: She likes her music.
- 1:10:47SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's all.
- 1:10:48SPEAKER_01: That's all it goes that deep.
- 1:10:49SPEAKER_01: So, how do you feel about her personality?
- 1:10:50SPEAKER_01: It goes that deep.
- 1:10:51SPEAKER_01: I think she's very entertaining.
- 1:10:53SPEAKER_04: Absolutely.
- 1:10:54SPEAKER_04: Very entertaining.
- 1:10:54SPEAKER_04: And she's funny.
- 1:10:55SPEAKER_04: She's she's you know, you know, is a so I love Cardi.
- 1:10:58SPEAKER_04: I love her for two things.
- 1:10:59SPEAKER_04: Why?
- 1:10:59SPEAKER_04: Why do you love her?
- 1:11:00SPEAKER_04: I love her.
- 1:11:00SPEAKER_08: Because the girl loves her.
- 1:11:01SPEAKER_08: That's the first one.
- 1:11:01SPEAKER_08: All right, so no, no, no.
- 1:11:02SPEAKER_01: But it's not I'm saying it.
- 1:11:04SPEAKER_01: That's a good one.
- 1:11:07SPEAKER_01: It's not that deep.
- 1:11:08SPEAKER_01: I mean with Cardiff.
- 1:11:11SPEAKER_04: Alright, so he's stirring the shit.
- 1:11:13SPEAKER_04: It's alright.
- 1:11:15SPEAKER_04: I'm just making my point.
- 1:11:17SPEAKER_04: It's not at the same level as we're gonna be able to do it because you are here.
- 1:11:21SPEAKER_04: That's all.
- 1:11:22SPEAKER_04: Alright.
- 1:11:23SPEAKER_04: Wait till his wife gets hit.
- 1:11:25SPEAKER_08: Listen, man, I'm prepping for that episode.
- 1:11:29SPEAKER_04: So come here.
- 1:11:31SPEAKER_08: I'll pull around on that one.
- 1:11:33SPEAKER_05: Shout out, Sterrell.
- 1:11:34SPEAKER_06: Shout out, Sterrell.
- 1:11:35SPEAKER_06: You ain't shitting it.
- 1:11:36SPEAKER_08: She'll be here.
- 1:11:37SPEAKER_08: I'll be uh, listen, guys, I'm under the weather.
- 1:11:39SPEAKER_06: Yo, Rel, you might n-word despite living in a BX.
- 1:11:42SPEAKER_06: You know what I mean?
- 1:11:44SPEAKER_04: See, I like um uh I like uh Cardi for the simple fact that I don't agree with a lot of the music that's being produced by a lot of these rappers with that mumble rap bullshit, right?
- 1:11:55SPEAKER_04: Yeah, she's not a mumble rapper.
- 1:11:56SPEAKER_04: She's not that.
- 1:11:57SPEAKER_04: I'm not comparing her lyricism to anyone else's.
- 1:12:00SPEAKER_04: I'm just saying if there could be so much volume of shit that I don't even understand and that's charting and making so much money, why can't a woman do it?
- 1:12:09SPEAKER_08: Oh, so you're a woman's right.
- 1:12:10SPEAKER_08: You feminist today.
- 1:12:12SPEAKER_04: Well, not today.
- 1:12:13SPEAKER_04: I'm just a realist always.
- 1:12:15SPEAKER_08: Okay.
- 1:12:16SPEAKER_04: It's just okay, uh however you want to say it.
- 1:12:19SPEAKER_04: Tomato tomato.
- 1:12:21SPEAKER_04: If these men could do it, why not?
- 1:12:23SPEAKER_04: Because I don't agree with their shit.
- 1:12:24SPEAKER_04: I don't want to hear that I do not listen to radio.
- 1:12:27SPEAKER_08: So you like her by default because she's the only woman making money doing the same thing.
- 1:12:31SPEAKER_04: That was my introduction to liking her.
- 1:12:33SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 1:12:34SPEAKER_04: Because I feel like she should.
- 1:12:36SPEAKER_04: Same reason for Nicki Minaj.
- 1:12:38SPEAKER_04: I didn't like Nicki Minaj at first.
- 1:12:39SPEAKER_04: Really?
- 1:12:40SPEAKER_04: I absolutely did not like you.
- 1:12:42SPEAKER_04: I I don't it's hard for me to like someone who I perceive as a whore.
- 1:12:49SPEAKER_04: Damn.
- 1:12:50SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 1:12:51SPEAKER_04: Let me explain.
- 1:12:52SPEAKER_04: If you're a whore and you admit it.
- 1:12:55SPEAKER_04: I like that word.
- 1:12:57SPEAKER_01: I know, it's not even ho, it's whore.
- 1:12:58SPEAKER_04: No, exactly.
- 1:13:00SPEAKER_04: Just that word, just to say, just to say that word.
- 1:13:02SPEAKER_04: Two different words.
- 1:13:04SPEAKER_04: If you're a whore and admit it, I can't fault you.
- 1:13:07SPEAKER_04: I like Donald Trump before he was president.
- 1:13:09SPEAKER_06: Can't can I can I just say this?
- 1:13:10SPEAKER_04: Interject, sir.
- 1:13:11SPEAKER_06: The city girls are whores.
- 1:13:14SPEAKER_04: Hey, like I said, whoa.
- 1:13:17SPEAKER_05: Hoo.
- 1:13:18SPEAKER_08: That's the correct way to pronounce it, apparently.
- 1:13:26SPEAKER_08: Emphasis on the whore.
- 1:13:27SPEAKER_04: Do I say who?
- 1:13:29SPEAKER_04: Okay, I got you.
- 1:13:30SPEAKER_04: Alright.
- 1:13:31SPEAKER_04: Alright.
- 1:13:32SPEAKER_04: Like I said.
- 1:13:33SPEAKER_04: Coming to America?
- 1:13:34SPEAKER_04: I don't judge a whore unless she hides what she does.
- 1:13:40SPEAKER_08: And you think Nikki was hiding in the beginning, or she was like.
- 1:13:43SPEAKER_04: Your name is Nicki Minaj, and you try to act like you don't want to fuck every nigga.
- 1:13:48SPEAKER_08: She had a dildo on stage.
- 1:13:49SPEAKER_08: Or a trap on on stage.
- 1:13:51SPEAKER_04: That's what you do.
- 1:13:52SPEAKER_04: That's what you do.
- 1:13:53SPEAKER_04: Don't hide behind it.
- 1:13:54SPEAKER_04: Don't create a persona that you're not about.
- 1:13:56SPEAKER_04: Yeah, her last name is threesome.
- 1:13:58SPEAKER_04: Exactly.
- 1:13:58SPEAKER_04: So don't hate people for viewing you in a way that you a connotation that you view yourself and expose yourself as.
- 1:14:05SPEAKER_04: Don't try to change yourself, change yourself from what you created yourself to be.
- 1:14:09SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 1:14:10SPEAKER_04: If I don't know you in the world, the first thing I read about you is Nicki Minaj.
- 1:14:15SPEAKER_04: Oh, this girl likes threesomes.
- 1:14:17SPEAKER_04: Don't act like you don't like it.
- 1:14:19SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 1:14:19SPEAKER_04: It's just a name.
- 1:14:20SPEAKER_04: So you know what I mean?
- 1:14:21SPEAKER_04: Like if Cardi B.
- 1:14:22SPEAKER_04: Doesn't mean she's a whore.
- 1:14:24SPEAKER_04: Yeah, she was genuine.
- 1:14:25SPEAKER_04: It rolls off the top.
- 1:14:26SPEAKER_04: She was genuine.
- 1:14:27SPEAKER_04: Again, a stripper doesn't mean you're a whore.
- 1:14:29SPEAKER_04: Cardi B never tried to.
- 1:14:32SPEAKER_04: Whatever.
- 1:14:33SPEAKER_04: I didn't tell you.
- 1:14:33SPEAKER_08: It's I think I've done a lot of research.
- 1:14:36SPEAKER_08: It's div.
- 1:14:37SPEAKER_04: Oh, I didn't say a gross, uh, the the the highest grossing stripper doesn't mean a whore.
- 1:14:43SPEAKER_04: Because the highest grossing stripper has to be fucking.
- 1:14:46SPEAKER_05: That's not true.
- 1:14:47SPEAKER_04: That's not true.
- 1:14:47SPEAKER_04: It's not true.
- 1:14:48SPEAKER_04: Shut your mouth.
- 1:14:48SPEAKER_04: It's not true.
- 1:14:49SPEAKER_04: Shut your mouth.
- 1:14:49SPEAKER_04: It's not true.
- 1:14:50SPEAKER_04: Shut your mouth.
- 1:14:51SPEAKER_04: You're not making more than a woman that's fucking.
- 1:14:53SPEAKER_05: Okay, but you're gonna talk to me.
- 1:14:56SPEAKER_08: You're gonna talk to me about you're gonna talk to me in my field?
- 1:14:58SPEAKER_08: I don't I don't come talking to you about cars.
- 1:15:00SPEAKER_04: Beyonce's fucking hover.
- 1:15:01SPEAKER_04: I don't talk to you about cars.
- 1:15:04SPEAKER_05: Correct me where I'm talking about.
- 1:15:05SPEAKER_05: The girls that have more of a name don't need to fuck.
- 1:15:08unknown: Yeah.
- 1:15:10SPEAKER_08: And then the girls that look the girls that think you know the girls that fuck, or the girls that get a little$200,$300, like, okay, we can.
- 1:15:16SPEAKER_08: But let me ask you a question.
- 1:15:17SPEAKER_08: But let me ask you a question.
- 1:15:18SPEAKER_08: Yes, Edo.
- 1:15:18SPEAKER_04: Hold on.
- 1:15:19SPEAKER_04: You're proving my point in the people that you know.
- 1:15:21SPEAKER_04: The people that are making it like this.
- 1:15:23SPEAKER_04: No, but again, you're talking about the biggest thing.
- 1:15:26SPEAKER_01: The thing is you're generalizing.
- 1:15:27SPEAKER_01: I'm talking about thousands of all strippers are not.
- 1:15:28SPEAKER_07: They was fucking before they got that big.
- 1:15:31SPEAKER_01: Not all strippers are whores.
- 1:15:33SPEAKER_01: I think basically you can't prove it.
- 1:15:35SPEAKER_01: Can we prove it?
- 1:15:37SPEAKER_01: You can't prove it.
- 1:15:38SPEAKER_08: So the literal definition of a whore is what?
- 1:15:41SPEAKER_08: You sell your box for money?
- 1:15:43SPEAKER_06: Um sexual exchange for uh monetary or um monetary or anything that benefits you type shit.
- 1:15:53SPEAKER_06: Okay, so how is a stripper not a whore?
- 1:15:55SPEAKER_04: Listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen.
- 1:15:57SPEAKER_08: I know a few strippers.
- 1:15:59SPEAKER_08: Okay, so I can say the definition of a whore is a prostitute, which means sex.
- 1:16:03SPEAKER_08: But sex is a very ambiguous statement because going outside with your absorption selling sex.
- 1:16:08SPEAKER_08: Petrates this woman is just a sexual.
- 1:16:11SPEAKER_08: Because they say sex appeal sells, but we're not talking about appeal.
- 1:16:13SPEAKER_08: We're talking about actuality.
- 1:16:15SPEAKER_08: If that's the case, Nicki Minaj is a whore too.
- 1:16:18SPEAKER_08: All these artists are outside half the derivative of fucking sex.
- 1:16:22SPEAKER_08: Okay, so the actual penetration orally or you know, vague.
- 1:16:27SPEAKER_08: Yes, that's the way it's not.
- 1:16:28SPEAKER_04: Anything to make between you and them come up.
- 1:16:31SPEAKER_04: Oh, I see.
- 1:16:32SPEAKER_04: You see where I'm getting at, right?
- 1:16:35SPEAKER_01: Prostitution is the business or practice of engaging in sexual activity and exchange.
- 1:16:40SPEAKER_01: Well, a whore is a prostitution.
- 1:16:41SPEAKER_01: That's the definition.
- 1:16:43SPEAKER_01: You need two definitions to define whore.
- 1:16:45SPEAKER_08: It's a slang word for prostitution.
- 1:16:46SPEAKER_08: Listen, listen, let's listen.
- 1:16:47SPEAKER_08: I'm gonna herb a dictionary.
- 1:16:49SPEAKER_01: No, you gotta define prost.
- 1:16:50SPEAKER_01: You gotta define prostitution.
- 1:16:52SPEAKER_06: What's the point that's trying to be made?
- 1:16:53SPEAKER_06: I'm getting to that.
- 1:16:54SPEAKER_01: Because it's like you're they're doing a is it is it's stripping a sexual activity then?
- 1:16:59SPEAKER_01: Yes.
- 1:16:59SPEAKER_01: That's what you gotta argue.
- 1:17:00SPEAKER_01: Yes.
- 1:17:01SPEAKER_01: That is where the argument is.
- 1:17:02SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 1:17:03SPEAKER_01: That's where the argument is.
- 1:17:04SPEAKER_06: That's why I just said selling sex appeal.
- 1:17:05SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
- 1:17:06SPEAKER_08: So why are they not whores if they're selling sex?
- 1:17:09SPEAKER_01: I don't know, because to me it's more about.
- 1:17:10SPEAKER_05: So why would Okay, so why doesn't Nicki Minaj why doesn't Nicki Minaj or Cardi B go on stage with a whole covered up?
- 1:17:16SPEAKER_08: Like there's pastors and regular day-to-day people that call them whores too.
- 1:17:23SPEAKER_04: Are we straining away from what I uh I said?
- 1:17:25SPEAKER_04: There's there's a difference in distinction with uh whore who denies versus a whore who admits.
- 1:17:30SPEAKER_08: No, I agree with that notion, but then the the thing came up with the.
- 1:17:33SPEAKER_04: A whore who admits and a whole who denies.
- 1:17:36SPEAKER_08: Can we get off these hoes, please?
- 1:17:38SPEAKER_08: Like I mean, the whole's run the world, man.
- 1:17:39SPEAKER_04: That's how pussy run the world, like R.
- 1:17:42SPEAKER_04: Kelly and Jay-Z say, but R Kelly's.
- 1:17:44SPEAKER_06: Pussy is prostitution is the oldest fucking prost uh professional world.
- 1:17:49SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 1:17:49SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
- 1:17:49SPEAKER_08: All right, so look at the y'all baby.
- 1:17:52SPEAKER_08: No, slavery is not as old as uh prostitution.
- 1:17:56SPEAKER_08: Slavery, uh That's arguable.
- 1:17:58SPEAKER_08: No, it's not slavery is not as old.
- 1:18:00SPEAKER_04: I don't think masters have been fucking the slaves.
- 1:18:03SPEAKER_04: But that's not prostitution.
- 1:18:05SPEAKER_04: No, but the thing is with prostitution, did they own those women?
- 1:18:07SPEAKER_04: Did they own those?
- 1:18:08SPEAKER_04: No, that's what you get raped.
- 1:18:10SPEAKER_04: That's what you gotta do.
- 1:18:10SPEAKER_04: Rape and prostitution are the same thing.
- 1:18:13SPEAKER_04: I'm gonna stop being ignorant.
- 1:18:14SPEAKER_08: Yeah, I want to get on a lighter topic.
- 1:18:16SPEAKER_08: Um I want to speak about the honorable brother, Kat Williams.
- 1:18:20SPEAKER_08: I really want to speak about it.
- 1:18:21SPEAKER_08: Shouts to Cat.
- 1:18:22SPEAKER_04: Speaking of honorable niggas, we we need to um uh not forget John Legend.
- 1:18:27SPEAKER_04: No, we're gonna get to that.
- 1:18:28SPEAKER_08: Yeah, I'll be talking about just making sure, right?
- 1:18:30SPEAKER_08: Come on.
- 1:18:31SPEAKER_08: He's honorable as well.
- 1:18:34SPEAKER_04: Such a basic nigga, I didn't notice the achievements that he's been uh acquiring over the past ten years.
- 1:18:39SPEAKER_04: Well, fuck it.
- 1:18:39SPEAKER_06: Let's go into John Legend now since we already interested.
- 1:18:41SPEAKER_06: We're talking about John Legend is the first and the first black to get the E got.
- 1:18:50SPEAKER_08: Which is the Emmy, Grammy, Oscar Tony.
- 1:18:54SPEAKER_08: What is the Tony for?
- 1:18:56SPEAKER_01: So the Tony, he co-produced Jitney.
- 1:18:59SPEAKER_08: No, but what is a Tony?
- 1:19:00SPEAKER_08: Is that for the Tony?
- 1:19:00SPEAKER_01: So a Tony is it's it's an award for um for Broadway on Broadway for Broadway Theater.
- 1:19:05SPEAKER_01: So you get those awards for that.
- 1:19:06SPEAKER_01: It's for Broadway.
- 1:19:07SPEAKER_08: So Tony's Broadway co-produced.
- 1:19:10SPEAKER_08: Grammy is um TV.
- 1:19:14SPEAKER_08: Grammy is music, Oscar's movies.
- 1:19:15SPEAKER_08: Yes.
- 1:19:16SPEAKER_07: What TV show did he have?
- 1:19:18SPEAKER_07: So unless he was on a set of things.
- 1:19:19SPEAKER_01: So the Emmy, so he was he was part of the uh live musical called Jesus Christ Superstar, where he starred in it.
- 1:19:26SPEAKER_01: So it was a musical where he sang and aired on NBC.
- 1:19:29SPEAKER_01: So he won the Emmy for that.
- 1:19:31SPEAKER_01: Okay, and uh um and the Oscar he won for the song for the song Glory that was in Selma.
- 1:19:38SPEAKER_08: Okay.
- 1:19:38SPEAKER_08: Can I ask you a question?
- 1:19:39SPEAKER_08: Is there do y'all look at this like the way they worded it?
- 1:19:42SPEAKER_08: Like the ego like nigga?
- 1:19:45SPEAKER_08: Is it by um bigot?
- 1:19:48SPEAKER_04: No, no, no, it's not bigot.
- 1:19:50SPEAKER_04: It's all because we talking you have to you have to relate things nowadays to something else that's popular.
- 1:19:56SPEAKER_04: So good.
- 1:19:56SPEAKER_04: Now we talk about rap gods and all this shit.
- 1:19:59SPEAKER_04: We gotta put the ego in there.
- 1:20:01SPEAKER_01: Well, it's also alphabetical.
- 1:20:02SPEAKER_08: It's also alphabetical.
- 1:20:07SPEAKER_08: Like, is the emmy?
- 1:20:08SPEAKER_08: You know, is the emmy the bit is bigger than the Oscar?
- 1:20:11SPEAKER_08: Like, what's the biggest one out of those two?
- 1:20:13SPEAKER_08: I think Oscar.
- 1:20:13SPEAKER_01: I think Oscar.
- 1:20:14SPEAKER_01: I think Oscar.
- 1:20:15SPEAKER_01: Those aren't very easy to watch.
- 1:20:16SPEAKER_04: Everything is nowadays, everything is by the acronyms.
- 1:20:19SPEAKER_04: You gotta make it sound the best so that it's trending.
- 1:20:21SPEAKER_04: I'm pretty sure you can rearrange that something.
- 1:20:27SPEAKER_04: Got it.
- 1:20:27SPEAKER_04: Gotti sounds better.
- 1:20:29SPEAKER_08: He said Gotti sounds better than that.
- 1:20:30SPEAKER_08: Gotti sounds better than egot.
- 1:20:32SPEAKER_05: Gotti is mafia related.
- 1:20:35SPEAKER_06: But just body.
- 1:20:37SPEAKER_06: Sonically.
- 1:20:38SPEAKER_06: Sonic, I'm not gonna bastard out that word, Sonically, it sounds mafia related and they don't want to do that.
- 1:20:45SPEAKER_06: Speaking of Sonic.
- 1:20:47SPEAKER_06: Speaking of Sonic, it sounded like a Dominican channel.
- 1:20:52SPEAKER_06: This little bitch gonna go, You okay, Sonic?
- 1:20:56SPEAKER_08: Oh man, you dropped the coins?
- 1:20:57SPEAKER_08: Four dollars and a quarter.
- 1:21:00SPEAKER_08: It goes up for everybody.
- 1:21:01SPEAKER_08: I just caught that.
- 1:21:03SPEAKER_08: We're still making Sonic games.
- 1:21:04SPEAKER_08: We know what's gonna be.
- 1:21:08SPEAKER_04: I don't know what you're talking about, all right?
- 1:21:10SPEAKER_04: Raheem, Raheem, it's alright.
- 1:21:12SPEAKER_04: But just just just let me get them uh tax-free uh coming up.
- 1:21:16SPEAKER_04: The duty free shit.
- 1:21:17SPEAKER_04: You got the duty free shit in there too.
- 1:21:19SPEAKER_08: But um John Legend is uh he's kind of quiet behind the scenes.
- 1:21:24SPEAKER_08: Game made agreed.
- 1:21:25SPEAKER_08: Show it to good music, Kanye West.
- 1:21:27SPEAKER_08: Is he still?
- 1:21:28SPEAKER_08: I don't I don't know if that's true.
- 1:21:30SPEAKER_08: He might not be.
- 1:21:31SPEAKER_08: Kanye's uh either artist be dropping off his label.
- 1:21:34SPEAKER_04: Hey, brother, just like us old people don't like to admit, but he's trending.
- 1:21:39SPEAKER_04: He definitely is.
- 1:21:40SPEAKER_04: He's more trending than any other thing.
- 1:21:42SPEAKER_04: And when Kanye was talking about John Legend reached out directly, but that does not make it change the fact that I also agree with you guys saying that he dropped that shit because he's trying to throw shade on the real fact that somebody might have done something with somebody that we all know about.
- 1:21:58SPEAKER_04: Okay, allegedly.
- 1:22:00SPEAKER_02: That's cool.
- 1:22:00SPEAKER_04: So because I think that is a good point because Lil Pump, like, I I never knew of him.
- 1:22:05SPEAKER_04: Just like I didn't know MGK before Eminem said it, I didn't know a little pump until you did not know about Lil Pump until that Kanye song.
- 1:22:11SPEAKER_04: Why should I find out really hard to believe?
- 1:22:12SPEAKER_01: Ask me a question as to what I should know who he's barely he's barely on social media like that, so he probably actually did not know.
- 1:22:21SPEAKER_04: Little pump to me means I push enough weed to smoke for free.
- 1:22:25SPEAKER_04: I have two words for you.
- 1:22:27SPEAKER_06: I'm a sick fuck.
- 1:22:28SPEAKER_06: I like a quick fuck.
- 1:22:29SPEAKER_06: I'm a sick fuck.
- 1:22:30SPEAKER_06: I like a quick fuck.
- 1:22:32SPEAKER_07: I like to give Gucci Gang.
- 1:22:34SPEAKER_07: Gucci Gang, Gucci Gang, Gucci Gang.
- 1:22:36SPEAKER_07: That's Lil Pump.
- 1:22:36SPEAKER_07: That's Lil Pump.
- 1:22:37SPEAKER_08: That's the shortest song to ever chart high on Billboard.
- 1:22:41SPEAKER_08: Okay.
- 1:22:42SPEAKER_04: That's Lil Pump.
- 1:22:43SPEAKER_04: That's amazing.
- 1:22:43SPEAKER_04: I'm not trying to discredit the folk.
- 1:22:45SPEAKER_04: I'm just saying.
- 1:22:46SPEAKER_04: No, he sucks.
- 1:22:47SPEAKER_04: I don't I didn't know him on the game.
- 1:22:48SPEAKER_04: Gucci Gang, Gucci Gang, Gucci Gang, Gucci Gang, Gucci Gang.
- 1:22:50SPEAKER_04: Like I said, if you have no relevance, you have no relevance in my life.
- 1:22:54SPEAKER_04: Kanye needed little.
- 1:22:55SPEAKER_01: He just he doesn't know a lot of names in terms of like he'll listen to the music, but he won't know the names because he doesn't date that much into it.
- 1:23:01SPEAKER_04: I will hear the music.
- 1:23:02SPEAKER_04: Yes.
- 1:23:02SPEAKER_04: Oh, hearing.
- 1:23:07SPEAKER_04: I'm gonna tell you right now, you know how I know you listen?
- 1:23:09SPEAKER_04: Because once he said Gucci Gang, you started bobbing and singing.
- 1:23:12SPEAKER_04: No, no, no, no, no.
- 1:23:13SPEAKER_04: So I know a trending song, but that doesn't mean I'm gonna look him up and find out who's gonna be a good one.
- 1:23:16SPEAKER_07: But I'm saying you listen because it got stuck in your head.
- 1:23:18SPEAKER_04: Listen, you hear propaganda is amazing.
- 1:23:21SPEAKER_04: All right?
- 1:23:22SPEAKER_04: Probably when he's driving on the radio.
- 1:23:24SPEAKER_04: Listen, when I'm listening to the radio and I'm listening to the things that society is pressing me to listen to, I can't, I have no choice but to listen to it.
- 1:23:31SPEAKER_04: You do have a choice.
- 1:23:32SPEAKER_04: Switch the fucking radio station.
- 1:23:36SPEAKER_04: I can't no matter if I like the quality of something, that doesn't mean that it's not trendy.
- 1:23:45SPEAKER_04: There's a lot of things I didn't like growing up, but it's a catchy fucking phrase that gets stuck in your fucking head.
- 1:23:50SPEAKER_04: And I hate it every second.
- 1:23:51SPEAKER_04: That's why I said you was like, for example, my my uncle used to hate um What the fuck was that song?
- 1:23:58SPEAKER_04: He used to hate a um a biggie song back in the day.
- 1:24:01SPEAKER_04: But it was trending.
- 1:24:02SPEAKER_04: I didn't know what the words were saying, but I was repeating the lyrics to it, and he's looking at me like, why the fuck are you singing that shit?
- 1:24:08SPEAKER_04: I can't stand that fucking song.
- 1:24:10SPEAKER_04: It's just like me now, if I hear my little cousin singing a little Kiki, I spaz the fuck out.
- 1:24:15SPEAKER_04: Cause I had no control over hearing that shit.
- 1:24:20SPEAKER_04: I'm a diesel and a hydraulic mechanic.
- 1:24:22SPEAKER_04: Why is my boss talking to me about Kiki?
- 1:24:25SPEAKER_04: Why?
- 1:24:26SPEAKER_04: Why?
- 1:24:26SPEAKER_04: I thought that was my one safe haven of not hearing.
- 1:24:31SPEAKER_04: He's a fucking Romanian.
- 1:24:32SPEAKER_04: Romanian diesel technician.
- 1:24:34SPEAKER_04: Like, what's the one?
- 1:24:35SPEAKER_04: Nice.
- 1:24:35SPEAKER_07: I know I'm bringing my X5 from now on.
- 1:24:37SPEAKER_07: Your X5?
- 1:24:38SPEAKER_07: It's gonna be mine now.
- 1:24:40SPEAKER_07: Why are you buying a BW?
- 1:24:41SPEAKER_07: Can we slow down?
- 1:24:42SPEAKER_07: I already have one.
- 1:24:43SPEAKER_07: You have one?
- 1:24:43SPEAKER_07: Well, my dad has one.
- 1:24:44SPEAKER_07: Why did you buy a BMW, brother?
- 1:24:46SPEAKER_07: My father did.
- 1:24:47SPEAKER_07: Okay, you didn't buy one.
- 1:24:48SPEAKER_07: But I'm I'm taking it over.
- 1:24:50unknown: Oh, okay.
- 1:24:51SPEAKER_04: Bruh, sell it.
- 1:24:53SPEAKER_04: Sell it now for the highest dollar.
- 1:24:56SPEAKER_07: Okay.
- 1:24:56SPEAKER_08: Okay.
- 1:24:57SPEAKER_08: Um, I I just wanna I just wanna get back to the topic at hand.
- 1:25:02SPEAKER_08: So we're talking about the ego status.
- 1:25:04SPEAKER_08: And to you personally, out of those, what is it, five, four achievements?
- 1:25:09SPEAKER_08: Four, what would you want out of all of those?
- 1:25:12SPEAKER_04: Oscar Black people to thrive.
- 1:25:15SPEAKER_04: Wait, what?
- 1:25:16SPEAKER_04: Black people to thrive.
- 1:25:18SPEAKER_04: Nigga, I said out of the four things.
- 1:25:20SPEAKER_06: I said out of the first thing, which one do you want in which if your Black Panther back to Wakanda as don't answer the goddamn question accordingly, which award would you want?
- 1:25:32SPEAKER_08: So you said you're gonna want to catapult, so it doesn't mean you want it.
- 1:25:35SPEAKER_06: So just Oscar is movies, uh, Tony.
- 1:25:39SPEAKER_06: I'm sorry, Emmy is Emmy is TV, Tony is Broadway, and um Grammy is music.
- 1:25:46SPEAKER_04: I would I would say a Tony and a Grammy.
- 1:25:48SPEAKER_08: Why the Tony?
- 1:25:50SPEAKER_04: Because Broadway?
- 1:25:51SPEAKER_04: No, no, no, no.
- 1:25:52SPEAKER_04: It's not you like Broadway?
- 1:25:53SPEAKER_04: It's because anything that's Broadway is kind of like anything that's trending in hip hop.
- 1:25:57SPEAKER_04: It's gonna, it's gonna be trending around the world.
- 1:26:02SPEAKER_04: Broadway is like one of those stitches of New York.
- 1:26:04SPEAKER_04: Nah, it's the reason why I say bougie.
- 1:26:07SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it is it is bougie.
- 1:26:08SPEAKER_04: You could say it's bougie.
- 1:26:09SPEAKER_04: It is bougie.
- 1:26:10SPEAKER_04: There's no facts.
- 1:26:13SPEAKER_04: It absolutely is more respect, but is it more money?
- 1:26:15SPEAKER_04: Nah, no.
- 1:26:16SPEAKER_04: I'm not sure what's I'm I'm a different type of person.
- 1:26:19SPEAKER_04: I'm just I'm a different type of person.
- 1:26:20SPEAKER_04: The reason it'll be more the the characteristics that I acquire got me here, type of thing.
- 1:26:26SPEAKER_07: The reason why the reason why I don't agree with you is because if you ever realize with Broadway, a lot of these shows don't fucking last.
- 1:26:33SPEAKER_07: The only one that really is last is Lion King.
- 1:26:35SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 1:26:35SPEAKER_06: Whereas I never thought that cats would end, and cats fucking ended.
- 1:26:40SPEAKER_06: Like I grew up for years seeing cats commercials live on Broadway and Cats fucking ended.
- 1:26:45SPEAKER_06: But you gotta think about it.
- 1:26:46SPEAKER_07: The only reason the only reason I Lion King is last because every generation is growing up knowing Lion King.
- 1:26:52SPEAKER_07: So I didn't know what the fuck cats was.
- 1:26:54SPEAKER_07: You guys are answering me.
- 1:26:55SPEAKER_04: You're answering my you're you're answering, you're you're accrediting my answer.
- 1:27:00SPEAKER_04: Not really.
- 1:27:00SPEAKER_04: Yes, you are.
- 1:27:01SPEAKER_04: Let me let me explain.
- 1:27:02SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 1:27:03SPEAKER_04: You've mentioned different topics of the same genre.
- 1:27:07SPEAKER_04: You're talking about Broadway.
- 1:27:08SPEAKER_04: Broadway would never end.
- 1:27:10SPEAKER_07: No, I never said Broadway would never end.
- 1:27:12SPEAKER_04: If you're on the top or achieving awards for Broadway, you're everlasting.
- 1:27:17SPEAKER_07: No.
- 1:27:18SPEAKER_07: That's what I'm going against because I'm saying these shows are not still on Broadway.
- 1:27:24SPEAKER_01: You can say the thing about all the other genres.
- 1:27:26SPEAKER_01: John Legends.
- 1:27:27SPEAKER_07: But not even that.
- 1:27:28SPEAKER_07: John Legends.
- 1:27:29SPEAKER_07: Movies are eternal.
- 1:27:30SPEAKER_07: John Legends are eternal.
- 1:27:31SPEAKER_06: Put it on ice.
- 1:27:32SPEAKER_07: But like love when you put it on ice.
- 1:27:34SPEAKER_04: Once New York City is still standing, Broadway will still be the pinnacle of our theater.
- 1:27:40SPEAKER_04: Listen to what I'm saying.
- 1:27:41SPEAKER_04: Listen to what I'm saying.
- 1:27:42SPEAKER_08: Movies are fucking global.
- 1:27:44SPEAKER_08: And you can watch them over and over again.
- 1:27:45SPEAKER_04: Broadway, Broadway is live.
- 1:27:49SPEAKER_04: Harlem runs the world.
- 1:27:50SPEAKER_04: Let me show you.
- 1:27:50SPEAKER_04: Oh wait, just wait.
- 1:27:53SPEAKER_04: New York.
- 1:27:54SPEAKER_04: Just wait until they put the phone on eyes.
- 1:27:56SPEAKER_04: Anything that Harlem does.
- 1:28:00SPEAKER_06: In full on ice, it's coming.
- 1:28:02SPEAKER_04: So once Broadway is alive, the city will always dwell.
- 1:28:05SPEAKER_04: For some reason, I'm just saying, I disagree.
- 1:28:06SPEAKER_04: I disagree with Broadway in my life.
- 1:28:08SPEAKER_04: But that's where the money goes.
- 1:28:09SPEAKER_04: Do you have money?
- 1:28:10SPEAKER_04: Yes.
- 1:28:10SPEAKER_04: Do you have money?
- 1:28:11SPEAKER_04: Yes, I have.
- 1:28:11SPEAKER_04: What kind of money do you have?
- 1:28:12SPEAKER_04: I got enough money to make me.
- 1:28:13SPEAKER_04: You wouldn't be asking us questions about an M3.
- 1:28:16SPEAKER_04: You would have it.
- 1:28:17SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 1:28:17SPEAKER_04: And be asking us what should you want to do?
- 1:28:19SPEAKER_06: Because those white folks who go to those Broadway shows, they got M3s.
- 1:28:22SPEAKER_04: But this is why this is why I why I said I'm going to have to make a shot.
- 1:28:29SPEAKER_07: I have a vehicle.
- 1:28:30SPEAKER_07: But this is what I'm going to say is that.
- 1:28:34SPEAKER_07: This is why I say it would never last.
- 1:28:35SPEAKER_07: Because John Legend won that Tony for that show.
- 1:28:38SPEAKER_07: Is that still on Broadway?
- 1:28:40SPEAKER_04: But the thing is.
- 1:28:40SPEAKER_04: Did does he still have a Tony?
- 1:28:42SPEAKER_04: But is it still on Broadway?
- 1:28:43SPEAKER_04: You're not getting what I'm saying.
- 1:28:44SPEAKER_07: I'm going with Oscar.
- 1:28:45SPEAKER_01: No, but the thing about Broadway, not everything is meant to last forever.
- 1:28:49SPEAKER_01: These shows aren't meant to last forever.
- 1:28:50SPEAKER_07: So why is lying on Broadway and forever will be on Broadway?
- 1:28:55SPEAKER_07: People like to think that there's Africa.
- 1:28:58SPEAKER_06: For me?
- 1:28:59SPEAKER_06: Okay then.
- 1:29:00SPEAKER_06: It would be Garden of Eden.
- 1:29:02SPEAKER_06: It would be between uh Oscar and the Grammy.
- 1:29:05SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 1:29:05SPEAKER_06: Exactly.
- 1:29:05SPEAKER_06: That's what I'm going with.
- 1:29:06SPEAKER_07: Grammy or Tony.
- 1:29:07unknown: I like being a producer.
- 1:29:09SPEAKER_07: Because I look at it this way.
- 1:29:10SPEAKER_07: If I get an Oscar and it's a very good fucking movie, it's going to get played on TV.
- 1:29:15SPEAKER_07: Academy Award winner.
- 1:29:16SPEAKER_00: That's how they'll label you for the rest of the movie.
- 1:29:18SPEAKER_00: Think about it.
- 1:29:20SPEAKER_00: Academy rest.
- 1:29:21SPEAKER_07: It's a cottage.
- 1:29:22SPEAKER_07: It's Academy Award winner.
- 1:29:23SPEAKER_07: They play that on TV.
- 1:29:27SPEAKER_07: It never won shit, but I'm saying that movie is still being played from the first one for how long?
- 1:29:34SPEAKER_07: And it's still on TV.
- 1:29:36SPEAKER_01: But the point, his point is that it's not about the money.
- 1:29:39SPEAKER_01: That's just his personal opinion as to what he would want to win.
- 1:29:43SPEAKER_01: He ain't saying it makes the most money.
- 1:29:45SPEAKER_07: I want the money and I want the legacy.
- 1:29:47SPEAKER_01: Okay, so that's you.
- 1:29:48SPEAKER_07: Right over the money, baby.
- 1:29:50SPEAKER_04: Just shine your soul over and they give you all the money and respect that you want.
- 1:29:54SPEAKER_04: Well, send that nigga my way.
- 1:29:56SPEAKER_04: Oh, the nigga put those fucking toes away.
- 1:29:58SPEAKER_04: Woof.
- 1:29:59SPEAKER_04: Manicures are not manicures and pedicures are not just for men.
- 1:30:02SPEAKER_04: I know.
- 1:30:03SPEAKER_07: I get manicures and pedicures.
- 1:30:04SPEAKER_07: I just haven't had the time to go over it.
- 1:30:06SPEAKER_00: Can we talk about cat?
- 1:30:07SPEAKER_07: Can we yeah, can we get back to cat?
- 1:30:09SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 1:30:10SPEAKER_00: But yeah, shout out to John Legends.
- 1:30:11SPEAKER_08: Yeah, John Legend's cool.
- 1:30:12SPEAKER_08: Chrissy Tegan's cool.
- 1:30:13SPEAKER_08: They're all cool.
- 1:30:14SPEAKER_08: Is she Asian or white?
- 1:30:15SPEAKER_08: Or is she both?
- 1:30:16SPEAKER_01: She's mixed, I think.
- 1:30:17SPEAKER_01: I think is her mom being a chance.
- 1:30:18SPEAKER_01: I think she's she's half white.
- 1:30:20SPEAKER_01: She's half white, half Asian.
- 1:30:21SPEAKER_01: If I'm correct.
- 1:30:23SPEAKER_01: She's white.
- 1:30:23SPEAKER_01: I think her mom is like Vietnamese or something.
- 1:30:27SPEAKER_01: His wife.
- 1:30:27SPEAKER_01: That's a different thing.
- 1:30:28SPEAKER_01: John Legend's wife.
- 1:30:28SPEAKER_01: Chrissy Tegan.
- 1:30:29SPEAKER_08: There's not that many tough Asian races, but Vietnamese is one of them.
- 1:30:32SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 1:30:33SPEAKER_04: I may be wrong though.
- 1:30:34SPEAKER_04: Shout out to Viet Cong.
- 1:30:35SPEAKER_04: Someone uh They didn't fuck with black.
- 1:30:37SPEAKER_08: Shout outs to Cal Williams.
- 1:30:38SPEAKER_04: Somebody had a question for me.
- 1:30:39SPEAKER_08: Um name them or not?
- 1:30:41SPEAKER_04: Nah, I'm not gonna name them, but they just wanted to understand why we take credit away from black men for dating.
- 1:30:48SPEAKER_04: Oh, sorry, black black women for dating white men, but we don't discredit black men for a second answer.
- 1:30:57SPEAKER_08: Yes, this is kind of as a dark skinned man, um there's power in melody complexion, right?
- 1:31:07SPEAKER_08: And a white a white woman is looked at as a trophy, as a white man is looked at as you've been raped or you sold out.
- 1:31:17SPEAKER_08: It just goes back to the plantation.
- 1:31:19SPEAKER_08: If you fuck master as white, you're lit.
- 1:31:22SPEAKER_08: If you are getting fucked by master, you're not lit, you're being raped.
- 1:31:27SPEAKER_08: So a black man is always gonna look as at a white woman as, oh, she's she's drinking the coffee, she's drinking the tea, she's sold out.
- 1:31:34SPEAKER_08: But a black woman, even with all her hate, she looks as a black man fucking a white woman subconsciously, like, oh, this nigga think he's better than us.
- 1:31:42SPEAKER_08: It's never, oh, he's doing bad.
- 1:31:44SPEAKER_08: That's that's the difference.
- 1:31:47SPEAKER_04: You're different.
- 1:31:49SPEAKER_06: I can totally see his point.
- 1:31:51SPEAKER_06: That is true.
- 1:31:52SPEAKER_06: And I and I definitely agree with it.
- 1:31:56SPEAKER_00: This nigga asked the question.
- 1:32:00SPEAKER_01: Why is it different?
- 1:32:01SPEAKER_01: Like interracial love is different, but it's pursued uh perceived differently for black men and black women.
- 1:32:07SPEAKER_08: That fucks a white man looks like a sellout.
- 1:32:09SPEAKER_07: Like what Zap said.
- 1:32:11SPEAKER_01: Why y'all were saying about Serena?
- 1:32:13SPEAKER_08: Yeah, y'all, is it me?
- 1:32:14SPEAKER_08: You can name my name.
- 1:32:15SPEAKER_08: I definitely look at her.
- 1:32:16SPEAKER_08: She's fucking the nigga that made Reddit.
- 1:32:17SPEAKER_08: I love Reddit, by the way.
- 1:32:18SPEAKER_08: But yeah, it looks a co-founder.
- 1:32:22SPEAKER_08: It looks kind of funky because it's like you could have had fucking your pick of the litter of black superstars.
- 1:32:28SPEAKER_08: And it wasn't like they weren't chasing her.
- 1:32:30SPEAKER_08: Like some black women.
- 1:32:31SPEAKER_08: But in the black community, is Serena seen?
- 1:32:33SPEAKER_01: Listen, in the black community, just I'll ask you guys In the black community, was Serena seen as desirable?
- 1:32:39SPEAKER_01: Because a lot of people talk ass.
- 1:32:41SPEAKER_05: She was desirable.
- 1:32:42SPEAKER_05: She was fucking black.
- 1:32:43SPEAKER_05: She was fucking around.
- 1:32:54SPEAKER_05: No, it can be a ball.
- 1:33:03SPEAKER_01: You guys think that's what I'm saying?
- 1:33:05SPEAKER_08: Hold on, wait a minute, exactly.
- 1:33:07SPEAKER_08: Let the Native Americans excuse you.
- 1:33:09SPEAKER_08: You would be there.
- 1:33:10SPEAKER_08: Hold on, hold on.
- 1:33:11SPEAKER_08: Hold on.
- 1:33:12SPEAKER_08: He was here first.
- 1:33:12SPEAKER_08: Let the Native Americans speak.
- 1:33:14SPEAKER_08: Excuse me.
- 1:33:15SPEAKER_00: Yes, sir.
- 1:33:17SPEAKER_00: Wow.
- 1:33:19SPEAKER_06: That everyone else in the room is so.
- 1:33:23SPEAKER_06: Number one, he likes he likes thick women.
- 1:33:25SPEAKER_06: Secondly, he was openly, she was openly sitting on his lap at the dinner table at a fucking public restaurant, tonguing him down.
- 1:33:35SPEAKER_06: Who?
- 1:33:35SPEAKER_06: Drake and Serena Williams.
- 1:33:37SPEAKER_06: They he didn't give a fuck about that.
- 1:33:39SPEAKER_04: So let me state that is the point where I started envying that light-skinned motherfucking brother of mine.
- 1:33:45SPEAKER_04: You are my motherfucker too.
- 1:33:47SPEAKER_04: No, I know, but I didn't have Serena.
- 1:33:49SPEAKER_04: I've been.
- 1:33:50SPEAKER_04: Listen, can I speak?
- 1:33:51SPEAKER_04: Can I say what everyone did the world for my blood?
- 1:33:54SPEAKER_04: Excuse me.
- 1:33:54SPEAKER_07: Oh shit.
- 1:33:56SPEAKER_07: The knife is coming out in this podcast.
- 1:33:58SPEAKER_04: This is why this has been another installment against Serena.
- 1:34:01SPEAKER_04: Whether it's Venus or Serena.
- 1:34:06SPEAKER_07: Venus is trash.
- 1:34:07SPEAKER_07: Like I said, this is why the dark skin versus light-skinned war continues because a motherfucker like Drake.
- 1:34:14SPEAKER_07: Can I just say this thing?
- 1:34:15SPEAKER_06: I want to say what everyone else has always wanted to say with all due respect, Jesus Christ.
- 1:34:22SPEAKER_06: Could you imagine Serena bent over in front of you?
- 1:34:24SPEAKER_06: Oh my God.
- 1:34:25SPEAKER_06: Can you imagine that chocolate ass?
- 1:34:28SPEAKER_06: I couldn't.
- 1:34:28SPEAKER_06: She has strong hamstrings.
- 1:34:31SPEAKER_08: She has strong hamstrings.
- 1:34:32SPEAKER_08: I'm gonna ask you.
- 1:34:34SPEAKER_07: Oh my god.
- 1:34:35SPEAKER_07: Could you imagine what our kid is gonna look like after that five minutes?
- 1:34:38SPEAKER_07: Five?
- 1:34:38SPEAKER_07: Well, you have five seconds.
- 1:34:40SPEAKER_07: Listen.
- 1:34:41SPEAKER_08: The ripple of ass.
- 1:34:42SPEAKER_05: I am riding the wave on that motherfucker.
- 1:34:46SPEAKER_08: AG, I'm the only man.
- 1:34:47SPEAKER_08: I know.
- 1:34:48SPEAKER_08: Oh my god.
- 1:34:48SPEAKER_07: I'm the only man in the world.
- 1:34:50SPEAKER_07: What's being shown here that has his counterpart here?
- 1:34:53SPEAKER_04: My girl is here.
- 1:34:54SPEAKER_04: Babe, what do you think I would do?
- 1:34:59SPEAKER_08: You're playing a dangerous game.
- 1:35:01SPEAKER_07: Diabetes.
- 1:35:02SPEAKER_07: That's what I would do.
- 1:35:03SPEAKER_07: If Ace is not here next week, we know what happened.
- 1:35:06SPEAKER_07: He got stabbed and tossed in the body and got tossed in the ocean.
- 1:35:10SPEAKER_00: I'm not violent.
- 1:35:10SPEAKER_07: She's Dominican.
- 1:35:15SPEAKER_07: If her plane ticket is booked already to DR, just know why.
- 1:35:19SPEAKER_07: Gas money.
- 1:35:20SPEAKER_08: Why are you speaking of that tone?
- 1:35:23SPEAKER_07: We're going to start a GoFundMe to get all the lawyer fees right now.
- 1:35:27SPEAKER_08: Listen, man.
- 1:35:28SPEAKER_08: Ace gotta go, Ace gotta go, man.
- 1:35:31SPEAKER_08: Survival of it if he dies.
- 1:35:37SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, I'm not one of those girlfriends.
- 1:35:39SPEAKER_04: Oh man.
- 1:35:40SPEAKER_01: She's gorgeous.
- 1:35:41SPEAKER_06: That's fucked up because I ain't that fit.
- 1:35:42SPEAKER_06: But no, Serena Williams.
- 1:35:45SPEAKER_06: Serena Williams is a good thing.
- 1:35:46SPEAKER_06: I'm glad to hear this, though.
- 1:35:47SPEAKER_06: I'm glad to hear this.
- 1:35:49SPEAKER_06: She is a work of art.
- 1:35:51SPEAKER_06: And I can say that I do agree with KOcho in the sense that a lot of people in the black community did kind of shame her or not give her the credit that she obviously deserves for that phenomenal figure that she has.
- 1:36:07SPEAKER_06: Yeah, okay, she has brushes.
- 1:36:08SPEAKER_06: She's a big female.
- 1:36:09SPEAKER_06: She stands what six foot what?
- 1:36:11SPEAKER_07: Wait, wait, wait.
- 1:36:12SPEAKER_07: Whoa, whoa, whoa.
- 1:36:14SPEAKER_07: Whoa.
- 1:36:15SPEAKER_07: Whoa.
- 1:36:15SPEAKER_07: She's not six foot.
- 1:36:16SPEAKER_07: She stands six foot what?
- 1:36:17SPEAKER_07: I'm sorry, five's eleven, right?
- 1:36:19SPEAKER_07: She's tall.
- 1:36:20SPEAKER_07: She gotta be five nine, nigga.
- 1:36:21SPEAKER_07: Somebody pull that up.
- 1:36:22SPEAKER_04: From the float to the top of her ass, she gotta be four foot.
- 1:36:25SPEAKER_04: She's five nine, man.
- 1:36:26SPEAKER_04: From the flow to the top of her ass.
- 1:36:29SPEAKER_08: Tennis, you can't be that tall to play tennis.
- 1:36:32SPEAKER_08: If you say six, then I might have to.
- 1:36:35SPEAKER_07: She's how how tall?
- 1:36:36SPEAKER_07: Okay, five four.
- 1:36:36SPEAKER_07: I'm not perfect.
- 1:36:38SPEAKER_01: I've been helpful.
- 1:36:39SPEAKER_01: Venus, Venus is six one.
- 1:36:41SPEAKER_01: That's taller.
- 1:36:41SPEAKER_01: Venus.
- 1:36:44SPEAKER_01: Venus don't get me.
- 1:36:44SPEAKER_08: Look at that.
- 1:36:45SPEAKER_08: Okay, excuse me, it's really hard to play tennis if you're really tall.
- 1:36:49SPEAKER_06: I missed I missed that point of it, but yes, okay.
- 1:36:51SPEAKER_06: So still five foot nine four.
- 1:36:55SPEAKER_06: But guess what?
- 1:36:56SPEAKER_07: If she's six foot looking me in the fucking eye, then we got a fucking problem.
- 1:36:59SPEAKER_07: If I'm six foot and she's five nine, I can tear that ass up.
- 1:37:02SPEAKER_06: Do you do you know who Abby Berry is?
- 1:37:05SPEAKER_07: Abby Berry?
- 1:37:05SPEAKER_07: That sounds like Hallie Berry's sister.
- 1:37:07SPEAKER_07: No, Abby Berry.
- 1:37:08SPEAKER_07: I don't know who that is.
- 1:37:09SPEAKER_06: I need you, I need you.
- 1:37:11SPEAKER_06: KOJ, you know who Abby Berry is.
- 1:37:13SPEAKER_06: Listen.
- 1:37:14unknown: Let's see.
- 1:37:14SPEAKER_07: Somebody look up Abby Berry so I can see this.
- 1:37:17SPEAKER_07: She's off of social media.
- 1:37:18SPEAKER_08: Why are we talking about Abby Berry?
- 1:37:19SPEAKER_08: What's going on with her?
- 1:37:20SPEAKER_08: Do you know who Abby Berry is?
- 1:37:21SPEAKER_08: Listen, I don't want to confirm or deny if I know who Abby Berry is.
- 1:37:24SPEAKER_08: My woman listens to this podcast, alright?
- 1:37:26SPEAKER_08: Shout out to Mia Khalifa.
- 1:37:29SPEAKER_08: What?
- 1:37:29SPEAKER_08: Abby Berry?
- 1:37:30SPEAKER_08: She's not on our list.
- 1:37:30SPEAKER_08: You said Mia Khalifa.
- 1:37:32SPEAKER_02: You don't know who the what the fuck is Mia Khalifa?
- 1:37:35SPEAKER_02: I know who Mia Khalifa is.
- 1:37:37SPEAKER_07: She had a show with Mia Khalifa.
- 1:37:39SPEAKER_07: That's Prior Rod look alike.
- 1:37:41SPEAKER_07: They be sending Whoa, what?
- 1:37:43SPEAKER_08: I think it's masturbate too much, man.
- 1:37:45SPEAKER_08: Oh, yeah, well, I'm not sure.
- 1:37:45SPEAKER_08: She had a show with Gilbert Arenas that didn't pan out.
- 1:37:47SPEAKER_08: So can we get back to Kat Williams?
- 1:37:49SPEAKER_08: Oh yes.
- 1:37:52SPEAKER_07: No, that's Kevin Hart.
- 1:37:53SPEAKER_01: He won an Emmy.
- 1:37:54SPEAKER_07: Oh, Kat Williams.
- 1:37:55SPEAKER_01: Cat Williams.
- 1:37:56SPEAKER_01: So he won an Emmy.
- 1:37:58SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he for his guest appearance on M.
- 1:38:00SPEAKER_01: Shout out Atlanta.
- 1:38:02SPEAKER_08: That is a beautiful show.
- 1:38:03SPEAKER_08: Oh, he's that's a Twitter bitch.
- 1:38:05SPEAKER_05: I know it's a bit.
- 1:38:06SPEAKER_08: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
- 1:38:08SPEAKER_08: Feminist.
- 1:38:09SPEAKER_05: I actually I actually know that he's coming out.
- 1:38:12SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 1:38:13SPEAKER_06: You know her on a personal level?
- 1:38:14SPEAKER_06: Yes, I do.
- 1:38:15SPEAKER_06: She was on Twitter a lot.
- 1:38:16SPEAKER_06: Um Abby Berry.
- 1:38:17SPEAKER_06: Okay.
- 1:38:18SPEAKER_06: She had the infamous picture holding the Hennessy bottle with her ass geeks.
- 1:38:22SPEAKER_06: That's her?
- 1:38:23SPEAKER_06: That's her.
- 1:38:24SPEAKER_06: What's her number?
- 1:38:25SPEAKER_06: Abby Berry.
- 1:38:25SPEAKER_06: Wait, what's her what?
- 1:38:27SPEAKER_00: The original picture.
- 1:38:29SPEAKER_00: Oh.
- 1:38:29SPEAKER_00: That half Hennessy t shirt.
- 1:38:31SPEAKER_06: I actually used to have that shirt.
- 1:38:32SPEAKER_08: This guy's in the yeah, she made a lot of money selling those t-shirts.
- 1:38:36SPEAKER_08: Yeah, she nah, she's actually pretty lit on Twitter.
- 1:38:39SPEAKER_08: I don't know if she's still on it.
- 1:38:40SPEAKER_06: No, she's not she's not on social media, but like just look at the size of that.
- 1:38:42SPEAKER_06: Like Jesus Christ.
- 1:38:44SPEAKER_06: Relax, bro.
- 1:38:45SPEAKER_08: She had a very like public relationship with a guy on Twitter, too.
- 1:38:49SPEAKER_08: It got pretty bad.
- 1:38:50SPEAKER_06: So a lot of people don't know, and I and I give her all of the credit in the world.
- 1:38:54SPEAKER_06: And this is why.
- 1:38:55SPEAKER_06: I give her all of the credit in the world.
- 1:38:57SPEAKER_06: She is one of the females that I can say for sure.
- 1:39:00SPEAKER_06: She did not perform any sexual acts with people to get to get to the um point that she was at.
- 1:39:08SPEAKER_06: She's actually a very smart female.
- 1:39:11SPEAKER_06: Well, graduated fucking Magna cum laden from John Jay.
- 1:39:15SPEAKER_07: Well, guess what?
- 1:39:15SPEAKER_07: Guess what?
- 1:39:16SPEAKER_07: She could fit a heni bottle between her ass.
- 1:39:19SPEAKER_07: You think she needs a fuck for money?
- 1:39:20SPEAKER_07: Well, no, I'm just saying.
- 1:39:22SPEAKER_07: And not only that, a lot of people think she's gross.
- 1:39:25SPEAKER_06: A lot of people didn't know that she started off as a fucking bouncer and she got demands, my nigga.
- 1:39:30SPEAKER_06: That's the guy and a henny.
- 1:39:32SPEAKER_06: She's big though.
- 1:39:33SPEAKER_06: She got she's like six foot two.
- 1:39:34SPEAKER_06: She's tall.
- 1:39:35SPEAKER_07: That's a guy and a henny she got between her eyes.
- 1:39:37SPEAKER_08: That's an OG Twitter reference.
- 1:39:39SPEAKER_08: This guy's been on Twitter.
- 1:39:40SPEAKER_08: Yes, I've been on Twitter.
- 1:39:41SPEAKER_08: I've been on Twitter, man.
- 1:39:42SPEAKER_08: Nigga, that's a guy in a henneship between her eyes.
- 1:39:43SPEAKER_08: I seen that before you even were born, bro.
- 1:39:45SPEAKER_06: But yeah, I actually, you know, no.
- 1:39:47SPEAKER_06: The fact that he knows her.
- 1:39:48SPEAKER_06: She has a jazz, man.
- 1:39:49SPEAKER_06: She has a jazz.
- 1:39:50SPEAKER_08: This nigga dropping government.
- 1:39:51SPEAKER_08: Okay.
- 1:39:52SPEAKER_08: Alright, so you don't know that's a government.
- 1:39:53SPEAKER_08: That could be her nickname.
- 1:39:54SPEAKER_08: So back to King.
- 1:39:56SPEAKER_08: So let's get back to uh Cat Williams.
- 1:39:59SPEAKER_08: So he appeared on a radio station.
- 1:40:01SPEAKER_08: I don't want to give it any props.
- 1:40:02SPEAKER_08: I'm actually masking the fact that I don't know what the radio station was called, but I'm just gonna say that.
- 1:40:06SPEAKER_06: I actually don't know the related.
- 1:40:07SPEAKER_08: You want me to say it because I know it?
- 1:40:09SPEAKER_08: I don't honestly don't want to.
- 1:40:10SPEAKER_08: I don't want to give him any spins.
- 1:40:12SPEAKER_08: Yeah, they if they pay, sure.
- 1:40:13SPEAKER_08: So he got on that show and there was another guy there.
- 1:40:17SPEAKER_08: His name is Rhett, actually, which is pretty funny.
- 1:40:20SPEAKER_08: I don't know who's older, so we gotta uh We gotta figure out who's the original Red.
- 1:40:24SPEAKER_08: But is that Red a Native American?
- 1:40:26SPEAKER_06: Those old jokes.
- 1:40:27SPEAKER_06: Those are Red or Native American?
- 1:40:32SPEAKER_07: He's a life school black dude.
- 1:40:35SPEAKER_07: Oh my god.
- 1:40:35SPEAKER_07: That's too light.
- 1:40:37SPEAKER_06: Speaking of old, can I just show you this fucking picture?
- 1:40:41SPEAKER_06: Yesterday, I got a fucking haircut, and look what the fuck I saw.
- 1:40:48SPEAKER_06: Is it gray hair?
- 1:40:49SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
- 1:40:50SPEAKER_08: I can't see from here, but I know it's a gray hair.
- 1:40:52SPEAKER_04: I mean, our engineer got gray hairs and he claimed he didn't know about it.
- 1:40:55SPEAKER_04: I've had gray hairs since I was.
- 1:41:00SPEAKER_08: No, that means wisdom, bro.
- 1:41:01SPEAKER_08: It don't mean old age.
- 1:41:02SPEAKER_08: It could be stressed or age related.
- 1:41:04SPEAKER_08: It could be stressed or age related.
- 1:41:06SPEAKER_08: But back to Kat Williams.
- 1:41:07SPEAKER_08: Yeah, it's Cat Williams.
- 1:41:08SPEAKER_08: He was on this show.
- 1:41:09SPEAKER_06: Who claims he has 19-inch hair without a perm?
- 1:41:14SPEAKER_08: Without a perm.
- 1:41:16SPEAKER_08: That's pretty lit.
- 1:41:17SPEAKER_07: And even if you put it on any of the things, I was about to say, even with a perm or without a perm, it's still the same length, no?
- 1:41:24SPEAKER_07: No.
- 1:41:24SPEAKER_01: It's harder to grow your hair with a perm.
- 1:41:26SPEAKER_01: It's harder to grow your hair with a perm.
- 1:41:28SPEAKER_01: It wouldn't grow as long, really.
- 1:41:30SPEAKER_04: Is a mile in a circle the same as a mile straight?
- 1:41:32SPEAKER_04: It's a different length in distance.
- 1:41:34SPEAKER_04: A mile.
- 1:41:35SPEAKER_04: Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
- 1:41:37SPEAKER_04: It's the same shit.
- 1:41:37SPEAKER_04: It's still a fucking mile.
- 1:41:42SPEAKER_04: Yeah, from surface area.
- 1:41:44SPEAKER_04: No, surface area is exactly the same.
- 1:41:46SPEAKER_04: It's still a mile.
- 1:41:47SPEAKER_06: He's just he's basically trying to say he's black, and you know that the superstition about black people's hair don't grow.
- 1:41:52SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 1:41:52SPEAKER_05: So if Timmy has three orange curl pattern, that same length could be longer.
- 1:41:57SPEAKER_04: Okay, listen, let's not play some men.
- 1:41:58SPEAKER_01: Either way, your hair can it's harder for your hair to grow.
- 1:42:01SPEAKER_01: I've been just jumping it out since we were talking about hairful.
- 1:42:04SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
- 1:42:05SPEAKER_01: You are chemically altering your hair.
- 1:42:06SPEAKER_01: That shit can break your hair off.
- 1:42:08SPEAKER_01: You brought up hair around.
- 1:42:10SPEAKER_07: I must say KOTR is correct.
- 1:42:12SPEAKER_01: There's a time in my life I don't know how to do it.
- 1:42:15SPEAKER_01: And that shit you can't do.
- 1:42:16SPEAKER_01: That shit broke because you're the only woman in the room.
- 1:42:18SPEAKER_01: No, listen, I've got hair.
- 1:42:21SPEAKER_01: Listen, I have the experience because I've had permp hair and now has never grown this long when it was permed.
- 1:42:29SPEAKER_07: Yo, I permed my hair, my the middle of my head fell out and it would never grow.
- 1:42:33SPEAKER_04: She also before you were even born.
- 1:42:36SPEAKER_04: Because I got my first haircut at five, six years old.
- 1:42:39SPEAKER_04: So I understand natural is the way.
- 1:42:41SPEAKER_04: Long time ago.
- 1:42:41SPEAKER_04: Yeah, but I'm just saying.
- 1:42:42SPEAKER_04: So excuse me.
- 1:42:43SPEAKER_04: But we'll be back.
- 1:42:44SPEAKER_08: Back to Cat Cat Williams.
- 1:42:46SPEAKER_08: What's the long name for Cat?
- 1:42:47SPEAKER_08: Catherine Williams?
- 1:42:48SPEAKER_08: Like whatever the case is.
- 1:42:49SPEAKER_08: Pimp Damn, Pimp in distress.
- 1:42:51SPEAKER_08: Pimp named Slickback.
- 1:42:52SPEAKER_06: And you have to include a pimp name.
- 1:42:56SPEAKER_08: Name Slickback.
- 1:42:57SPEAKER_08: So Cat Williams went on.
- 1:42:58SPEAKER_08: Don't suck a fat baby's balls.
- 1:42:59SPEAKER_08: I ain't going nowhere.
- 1:43:01SPEAKER_08: He went on um and he took a lot of shots at people, including the hostess Wanda, I believe her name was.
- 1:43:06SPEAKER_08: Is it Wanda Sykes?
- 1:43:08SPEAKER_01: No, no, no.
- 1:43:08SPEAKER_01: The host of the radio show.
- 1:43:10SPEAKER_08: He said she was big on radio.
- 1:43:11SPEAKER_08: He was roasting her ass.
- 1:43:12SPEAKER_06: He said she was big on radio.
- 1:43:14SPEAKER_08: That's the funniest shit, yo.
- 1:43:15SPEAKER_08: Y'all don't understand how funny that shit is.
- 1:43:17SPEAKER_06: No, he said the fact that she got that$12 swap meet jewelry on.
- 1:43:21SPEAKER_08: Yeah, yo.
- 1:43:21SPEAKER_06: He said, you can go to Sitco or any gas station and get a fill-up and everything she has on right now.
- 1:43:27SPEAKER_06: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 1:43:28SPEAKER_07: He was let me ask you a question.
- 1:43:29SPEAKER_07: He said that her hair came on her headphones.
- 1:43:31SPEAKER_07: Is that not what he's known for?
- 1:43:33SPEAKER_07: Right.
- 1:43:34SPEAKER_01: And I don't know why she fucking shit.
- 1:43:35SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
- 1:43:36SPEAKER_01: That was the wrong thing for her to do.
- 1:43:37SPEAKER_01: She didn't know who she was dealing with.
- 1:43:39SPEAKER_06: Why would you start with a comedian?
- 1:43:41SPEAKER_06: Because he started.
- 1:43:42SPEAKER_06: He made a joke.
- 1:43:43SPEAKER_00: She made a joke about his hair, right?
- 1:43:45SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so that's how it started.
- 1:43:46SPEAKER_06: So then he went and people don't realize.
- 1:43:48SPEAKER_06: Oh, I think it was his jacket or something.
- 1:43:49SPEAKER_06: He's like, oh, you open that up.
- 1:43:51SPEAKER_06: Yeah, to show the Versace.
- 1:43:52SPEAKER_06: So we can see the.
- 1:43:53SPEAKER_06: He was like, I'm on the radio, sweetheart.
- 1:43:55SPEAKER_06: They can't see this.
- 1:43:56SPEAKER_08: And uh the thing that fucked it up too was that she made fun of him for going to jail.
- 1:44:00SPEAKER_08: He had to teach her the difference between the prison.
- 1:44:02SPEAKER_08: Yeah, right, right.
- 1:44:03SPEAKER_08: That's what really hit a nerve.
- 1:44:04SPEAKER_06: Oh, yeah, yeah, because she's like, oh, so I'm not gonna argue with a felon or some shit like that.
- 1:44:08SPEAKER_06: He's like, I'm not a felon.
- 1:44:09SPEAKER_06: He said, Well, he's a 19 families, no convictions.
- 1:44:12SPEAKER_06: No, he's gonna have been in jail, not prison, boo-boo.
- 1:44:14SPEAKER_06: Yeah, he's different.
- 1:44:14SPEAKER_08: That's what really hit a nerve with him.
- 1:44:16SPEAKER_08: And you know he has kids and stuff, he's a single father.
- 1:44:18SPEAKER_08: But the point of that interview that really uh made me bring the topic to the podcast panel was the fact that he mentioned a lot of names, and I believe in industry plans.
- 1:44:28SPEAKER_08: Just to break it down for people that are at home or are at work.
- 1:44:33SPEAKER_08: To me, this is my you know anecdotal experience.
- 1:44:36SPEAKER_08: Industry plant is a person that you can't explain their success through their ability and their work and they come up with them.
- 1:44:46SPEAKER_08: Yeah, through their body of work, and then they come up in a very opportunist way, like Kardashians.
- 1:44:54SPEAKER_08: The Kardashians, I don't think, are industry plans.
- 1:44:56SPEAKER_08: I think that like for what it's worth, the mother realized, because remember, she's she's been a hustler.
- 1:45:03SPEAKER_08: She was with the OJ trial lawyer and Robert Kardashian.
- 1:45:08SPEAKER_08: She's with the Kardashian.
- 1:45:09SPEAKER_06: She was on a side boo at her ex-house.
- 1:45:11SPEAKER_08: Yeah, and then Bruce Jenner.
- 1:45:12SPEAKER_08: And then there's there's little uh, you know, like Chloe's OJ's daughter, it matches up.
- 1:45:16SPEAKER_08: Kim is like 5'3, um, she's like 5'1, the other daughter, um, Courtney, is like 5'2, but Chloe's fucking 100.
- 1:45:24SPEAKER_08: 5'10.
- 1:45:25SPEAKER_08: She's like 5'10.
- 1:45:26SPEAKER_08: She's 5'10.
- 1:45:27SPEAKER_08: Yeah, and if you look at pictures of OJ's daughter and Chloe, they look very similar.
- 1:45:30SPEAKER_08: They do.
- 1:45:31SPEAKER_08: So there's been stories about her being, you know, I don't know if that's hustle, but she's been, you know, she's she's by her paper.
- 1:45:37SPEAKER_08: So I don't think necessarily there are industry plans.
- 1:45:40SPEAKER_08: For me, my list is like chance to rapper, Kevin Hart, Kevin Hart, and the and the person in question is right now that we're speaking about ish.
- 1:45:52SPEAKER_06: So you think Kevin Hart the plant?
- 1:45:54SPEAKER_06: Absolutely.
- 1:45:55SPEAKER_01: I don't think he's that funny.
- 1:45:56SPEAKER_06: Without Cat Williams' downfall, Kevin Hart would not be who the fuck is.
- 1:46:01SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because like when you watch all these all these these shows back to back, honestly not that funny.
- 1:46:06SPEAKER_01: He's not seeing not that funny.
- 1:46:09SPEAKER_07: Kevin Hart's funny because at the end of the day, to no, he is funny.
- 1:46:14SPEAKER_07: Because at the end of the day, he's corny.
- 1:46:17SPEAKER_07: He's not making jokes about like Tom, John, whatever the case may be.
- 1:46:23SPEAKER_07: He's making jokes about what he knows, what's his family.
- 1:46:27SPEAKER_07: I listen to a lot of comedy.
- 1:46:29SPEAKER_07: And that's what all comedians.
- 1:46:30SPEAKER_07: No, that's what they're doing.
- 1:46:31SPEAKER_07: I've been to comedy shows where they try to joke in the crowd.
- 1:46:34SPEAKER_07: You're talking about it.
- 1:46:35SPEAKER_07: You're speaking.
- 1:46:37SPEAKER_06: You're speaking about comedy delivery style.
- 1:46:39SPEAKER_06: And this is where I can debate with you, sir, because I love Kevin Hart.
- 1:46:43SPEAKER_06: Kevin Hart's fucking hilarious to me.
- 1:46:45SPEAKER_07: Okay, so also a white nah.
- 1:46:48SPEAKER_07: So nigga throwing the balls at my little daughter because she's just sitting there and a nigga checking my eh.
- 1:46:52SPEAKER_07: Fuck you dumb, little motherfucker.
- 1:46:53SPEAKER_07: Next time we wearing all the solid colors because we look like a fucking circus.
- 1:46:56SPEAKER_07: That's not hilarious, man.
- 1:46:57SPEAKER_07: No, it's not.
- 1:46:58SPEAKER_07: Wow.
- 1:46:59SPEAKER_07: Imagine, imagine having your hold on, imagine having your little son.
- 1:47:03SPEAKER_07: Imagine having your little son.
- 1:47:06SPEAKER_07: Cheese motherfuckers.
- 1:47:07SPEAKER_07: But imagine having your little son in a and basically chucking cheese in a ball pit, and all he's doing is grabbing onto the rope, saying, uh, and y'all run around trying to control all the kids, and y'all in multiple colors.
- 1:47:17SPEAKER_07: Y'all look like a fucking circus.
- 1:47:19SPEAKER_07: This is not funny.
- 1:47:22SPEAKER_01: It's not funny.
- 1:47:24SPEAKER_06: Nah, he's not funny at all.
- 1:47:25SPEAKER_06: I can name five basic excuse, I'm not gonna use the word basic.
- 1:47:30SPEAKER_06: Five comedians who aren't famous, who are way funnier than Kevin Hart.
- 1:47:38SPEAKER_08: Can you just name me one?
- 1:47:40SPEAKER_06: Have you ever heard of Freddie Ricks?
- 1:47:42SPEAKER_06: No.
- 1:47:43SPEAKER_06: Okay.
- 1:47:44SPEAKER_06: I need you to look up Freddie Ricks.
- 1:47:45SPEAKER_06: I will.
- 1:47:46SPEAKER_06: Um, who else am I gonna go with?
- 1:47:48SPEAKER_06: All I knew was one.
- 1:47:49SPEAKER_06: Um I'm gonna go.
- 1:47:51SPEAKER_06: I'm gonna go.
- 1:47:52SPEAKER_06: He's a legend, bro.
- 1:47:53SPEAKER_06: George Carlin's a legend.
- 1:47:55SPEAKER_01: He's had five people you don't know about.
- 1:47:56SPEAKER_06: No, no, you can stop with Freddie Ricks, right?
- 1:47:58SPEAKER_06: Freddie Ricks, AG Wett, I can go with Brooklyn Mike, I can go with Kenny Williams, I can go with Dean Edwards, I can go with Smokey Suarez, I can go with fuck any of those motherfuckers.
- 1:48:10SPEAKER_06: That's my point.
- 1:48:10SPEAKER_07: He said all of these motherfuckers are funnier than Kevin Hart.
- 1:48:13SPEAKER_08: So send that to me so I can listen.
- 1:48:15SPEAKER_08: Do you remember?
- 1:48:15SPEAKER_08: I find Kevin Hart.
- 1:48:17SPEAKER_08: Remember the Dip Diddy nigga?
- 1:48:18SPEAKER_08: Do you remember him?
- 1:48:19SPEAKER_08: He had a fucking TV show.
- 1:48:21SPEAKER_08: I forgot what his name is Was he Carlos Messier?
- 1:48:23SPEAKER_08: Was he funny?
- 1:48:24SPEAKER_08: To me, he was funny.
- 1:48:26SPEAKER_04: No, but he was so he was told to be staying stealing somebody else's material at all.
- 1:48:32SPEAKER_07: You know who Capone is?
- 1:48:33SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I'm Capone's hilarious.
- 1:48:35SPEAKER_06: Did you think that Capone's funnier than Kevin Hart?
- 1:48:37SPEAKER_07: I think so.
- 1:48:37SPEAKER_06: All right then.
- 1:48:38SPEAKER_06: So that's that's what I'm saying.
- 1:48:40SPEAKER_06: Capone's not nowhere near on Kevin Hart's level.
- 1:48:42SPEAKER_06: But I'm not saying industry.
- 1:48:44SPEAKER_07: I'm not saying Kevin Hart has Kevin Hart's not bigger than a lot of people that should be bigger.
- 1:48:51SPEAKER_07: I'm just saying he is a funny guy.
- 1:48:53SPEAKER_07: Okay, but I hate when people try to say.
- 1:48:55SPEAKER_06: But you just you just signed one of my main point.
- 1:48:58SPEAKER_04: It's different from being funny and funny looking.
- 1:49:00SPEAKER_06: Kevin Hart is Kevin Hart's a fucking character.
- 1:49:03SPEAKER_06: He's an anime, he's a gimmick.
- 1:49:06SPEAKER_06: He's not gonna be around.
- 1:49:08SPEAKER_06: Okay, okay, okay.
- 1:49:09SPEAKER_07: I'm gonna break it down to just like music.
- 1:49:12SPEAKER_07: But I'm gonna break it down to music.
- 1:49:13SPEAKER_07: That there's a lot of artists that know how to sell their music.
- 1:49:16SPEAKER_07: There's a lot of artists that know how to sell their music that aren't good.
- 1:49:20SPEAKER_07: It's just like Kevin Hart.
- 1:49:21SPEAKER_07: He's funny, but he knows how to sell himself.
- 1:49:24SPEAKER_07: He's not a non-funny guy.
- 1:49:26SPEAKER_08: Hold on, hold on.
- 1:49:26SPEAKER_08: Let me just break it down to another level.
- 1:49:29SPEAKER_08: The industry plant part is what you're describing.
- 1:49:32SPEAKER_08: Right.
- 1:49:32SPEAKER_08: How do you know Kevin Hart knows how to sell himself?
- 1:49:34SPEAKER_07: Because you see him so much?
- 1:49:36SPEAKER_07: What do you mean?
- 1:49:36SPEAKER_07: No, because if I could come out with a TV show that's funny, like Real Husband Hollywood, he came out with real husband.
- 1:49:43SPEAKER_07: Who all right, whose show is it?
- 1:49:45SPEAKER_08: That's the point.
- 1:49:45SPEAKER_08: You don't know it.
- 1:49:46SPEAKER_07: It's the executive producer.
- 1:49:47SPEAKER_07: It is the Kevin Hart's show.
- 1:49:48SPEAKER_07: It's under Kevin Hart.
- 1:49:50SPEAKER_07: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
- 1:49:50SPEAKER_07: Let me ask you a question.
- 1:49:51SPEAKER_04: Hold on.
- 1:49:52SPEAKER_04: I'm I'm related to everything.
- 1:49:53SPEAKER_04: Um who owns the the stadium, the new stadium on Barclays?
- 1:49:57unknown: What?
- 1:49:57SPEAKER_07: Barclays?
- 1:49:58SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 1:49:58SPEAKER_07: I'm not sure.
- 1:50:00SPEAKER_04: Wasn't when we first heard about Barkley Center, why did we hear about it?
- 1:50:03SPEAKER_04: Hove.
- 1:50:03SPEAKER_04: Yeah, but he even said, wait, wait.
- 1:50:08SPEAKER_04: Because he's the one that was the name that was pushing the forefront.
- 1:50:12SPEAKER_04: I get that.
- 1:50:13SPEAKER_04: But we own three.
- 1:50:15SPEAKER_07: He also said, I don't own the stadium, but I own the seat that y'all sit in.
- 1:50:21SPEAKER_07: Point three.
- 1:50:22SPEAKER_07: Point.
- 1:50:22SPEAKER_07: But he said also, I don't own the stadium, but I own the seats that y'all sit in.
- 1:50:26SPEAKER_07: You don't own that shit either.
- 1:50:28SPEAKER_07: Own anything.
- 1:50:28SPEAKER_04: So obviously he's saying I own the percentage of income to the stadium is the seat you're sitting in.
- 1:50:33SPEAKER_04: Point.
- 1:50:34SPEAKER_04: Okay, but that's 50%.
- 1:50:35SPEAKER_07: He also it's not like Kevin Hart never said whatever.
- 1:50:39SPEAKER_04: We're getting soundtrack.
- 1:50:40SPEAKER_04: We're getting soundtrack.
- 1:50:41SPEAKER_04: I'm gonna get it right now.
- 1:50:41SPEAKER_04: The only money that I'm bringing in is the people that come in is because of me.
- 1:50:44SPEAKER_04: Kevin Hart.
- 1:50:45SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 1:50:46SPEAKER_04: Somewhat.
- 1:50:46SPEAKER_08: But what I'm saying is that money.
- 1:50:49SPEAKER_08: And this was Kent Williams' point.
- 1:50:51SPEAKER_08: Kevin Hart write every joke that he was on in movies and television.
- 1:50:57SPEAKER_08: No.
- 1:50:57SPEAKER_07: Kevin Hart.
- 1:50:58SPEAKER_06: First of all, first of all, but y'all don't realize Kevin Hart.
- 1:51:01SPEAKER_06: Kevin Hart didn't even write every fucking joke he performs in his stand-ups.
- 1:51:07SPEAKER_07: Okay, and you think that all these other people write all their fucking jokes?
- 1:51:10SPEAKER_07: The niggas that I just named, dude?
- 1:51:12SPEAKER_07: That's the niggas that you named.
- 1:51:13SPEAKER_07: But there's so many people in the fucking industry that's the person we're talking about.
- 1:51:16SPEAKER_07: Cat Williams don't write all his fucking jokes.
- 1:51:18SPEAKER_07: No, because I've heard people say the same jokes Kat Williams said on other comedians.
- 1:51:22SPEAKER_07: What?
- 1:51:23SPEAKER_04: So uh comedians have this same thing they tell us all the time.
- 1:51:26SPEAKER_06: Who steals jokes?
- 1:51:29SPEAKER_04: Even if you don't watch other comedians, comedians, there's only so much, there's but so much material that can be spoken of.
- 1:51:36SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 1:51:37SPEAKER_04: Ren can speak on this first interview.
- 1:51:40SPEAKER_06: Why can't I speak on this first interview?
- 1:51:41SPEAKER_08: Red is in this industry.
- 1:51:43SPEAKER_08: He's around these people.
- 1:51:44SPEAKER_08: Red has been indoctrinated in the comedy circuit comedy scene.
- 1:51:48SPEAKER_08: He's here.
- 1:51:49SPEAKER_06: I've been fucking with the comedy circuit.
- 1:51:51SPEAKER_06: What year is this?
- 1:51:52SPEAKER_06: 2018.
- 1:51:53SPEAKER_06: I've been fucking with the comedy circuit for over 12 years.
- 1:51:55SPEAKER_06: Okay, but this is great from your question.
- 1:51:57SPEAKER_06: I've been motherfucker.
- 1:51:58SPEAKER_06: I can pull up Martin Lawrence First Amendment stand nigga.
- 1:52:01SPEAKER_06: You can see me there.
- 1:52:02SPEAKER_06: Okay.
- 1:52:02SPEAKER_06: I've been around these big, these, you know what I'm saying, big name comedians, and I've been around comedians who aren't big names but are funnier than the industry plant of Kevin Hart.
- 1:52:12SPEAKER_06: You don't think that I don't think he's a plant.
- 1:52:13SPEAKER_06: You don't think where did he come from?
- 1:52:15SPEAKER_01: So even on the show, where do half the motherfuckers come from?
- 1:52:18SPEAKER_01: Even on the show, Kevin Hart.
- 1:52:19SPEAKER_08: Kevin Hart used to do small stand-up shows back in his whole thing.
- 1:52:22SPEAKER_07: But even Def Jam, and I didn't even know it.
- 1:52:26unknown: Yeah.
- 1:52:26SPEAKER_07: You know what the funny part?
- 1:52:27SPEAKER_07: You know what the funny part?
- 1:52:29SPEAKER_07: You could say you didn't know it.
- 1:52:30SPEAKER_07: But you know how to do it.
- 1:52:35SPEAKER_07: But that's what was on it.
- 1:52:37SPEAKER_07: Exactly.
- 1:52:37SPEAKER_07: A lot of people don't realize he was in multiple stand-ups.
- 1:52:41SPEAKER_04: He was mediocre at best.
- 1:52:42SPEAKER_04: But that would be started.
- 1:52:44SPEAKER_04: Did Kevin Hart wear a dress?
- 1:52:47SPEAKER_04: That's what Kevin Hart wear a dress.
- 1:52:49SPEAKER_07: Yes, he did.
- 1:52:50SPEAKER_07: Yes, he did.
- 1:52:54SPEAKER_06: That's why Mike Ebbett gets at him the way that he does.
- 1:52:56SPEAKER_06: Shouts to Mike Ebbs.
- 1:52:58SPEAKER_07: Did Kevin Williams wear a dress?
- 1:53:00SPEAKER_07: Kevin did wear a dress in a movie, I believe.
- 1:53:03SPEAKER_07: If I'm not mistaken.
- 1:53:04SPEAKER_07: What?
- 1:53:04SPEAKER_07: What movie?
- 1:53:05SPEAKER_07: What movie?
- 1:53:05SPEAKER_02: I don't remember, but you have to put on the skirt to get ahead of him.
- 1:53:09SPEAKER_02: Can I jump in this?
- 1:53:10SPEAKER_02: This is your field, nigga.
- 1:53:11SPEAKER_06: Okay.
- 1:53:12SPEAKER_06: So I'm just gonna say this.
- 1:53:14SPEAKER_06: I'm just gonna say this.
- 1:53:18SPEAKER_06: Number one.
- 1:53:21SPEAKER_06: When you go into when you go into the industry, yes, and you don't subscribe to the shit that they want you to subscribe to, you're not gonna make it.
- 1:53:29SPEAKER_06: Cat Williams was on top of the fucking comedy scene.
- 1:53:33SPEAKER_06: And what happened?
- 1:53:34SPEAKER_06: He refused to sell out.
- 1:53:36SPEAKER_06: That's why the movie American Hustle came out, and he showed y'all that Holly would be tripping.
- 1:53:41SPEAKER_08: And now he's a cracker.
- 1:53:42SPEAKER_06: Now, right, according to them, now automatically he's ousted.
- 1:53:46SPEAKER_06: And what happened?
- 1:53:47SPEAKER_06: And you know what?
- 1:53:48SPEAKER_06: I don't mean to necessarily say this any type of way, but I feel that the backup comedian or the go-to when there isn't another main comedian in the spotlight was Tracy Morgan.
- 1:53:58SPEAKER_06: At the time, Tracy Morgan was out with his almost fatal accident.
- 1:54:03SPEAKER_06: You know what I'm saying?
- 1:54:04SPEAKER_06: So I felt like they had to catapult somebody else who was willing.
- 1:54:09SPEAKER_08: Put the dress on.
- 1:54:10SPEAKER_06: You gonna do it?
- 1:54:11SPEAKER_06: Suck kneecaps and lick boots to get on.
- 1:54:15SPEAKER_06: And that's where he came from.
- 1:54:16SPEAKER_06: I'm not saying he blew out the hustle over fucking night.
- 1:54:19SPEAKER_06: Yeah, because it didn't get money.
- 1:54:21SPEAKER_08: He's a hustler.
- 1:54:22SPEAKER_08: Yep.
- 1:54:22SPEAKER_08: But let's get to Tiffany Haddish.
- 1:54:24SPEAKER_00: Okay, yes.
- 1:54:25SPEAKER_08: Kevin Hart, Tiffany Haddish, Hannibal Burris, Cat Williams named a few comedians.
- 1:54:35SPEAKER_08: Gerard Carmichael.
- 1:54:36SPEAKER_08: That was the last one.
- 1:54:36SPEAKER_08: Yeah, from the show, right?
- 1:54:37SPEAKER_08: That he said these dudes are people that, you know, they're chosen.
- 1:54:44SPEAKER_08: They're picked because of what they're gonna do behind doors and whatnot.
- 1:54:49SPEAKER_08: But Tiffany Haddish is a perfect example.
- 1:54:52SPEAKER_08: He said that Perfect.
- 1:54:53SPEAKER_08: Perfect.
- 1:54:53SPEAKER_08: I'm drunk, bro.
- 1:54:54SPEAKER_08: Perfect.
- 1:54:55SPEAKER_08: He said that on He said that she was not lit until she said on tape, I'll fuck Brad Pitt.
- 1:55:03SPEAKER_08: You don't think these white boys love to hear shit like this?
- 1:55:06SPEAKER_08: There's a there's a plant.
- 1:55:07SPEAKER_08: It's a planted thing.
- 1:55:08SPEAKER_08: Did you hear about Tiffany Haddish?
- 1:55:10SPEAKER_08: She strokes their ego.
- 1:55:11SPEAKER_08: Did you hear about her before this?
- 1:55:12SPEAKER_07: Before Girls Trip?
- 1:55:13SPEAKER_07: To be honest, I've seen her in the Does she have a classic stand-up?
- 1:55:16SPEAKER_07: No, I've seen her in multiple movies.
- 1:55:18SPEAKER_07: I just never knew who she was.
- 1:55:19SPEAKER_08: Movies and she's not writing the material.
- 1:55:21SPEAKER_08: Kevin Hart Pope said that perfectly in the fucking interview.
- 1:55:24SPEAKER_08: Kevin Hart or Cat Williams?
- 1:55:25SPEAKER_08: I'm so sorry.
- 1:55:25SPEAKER_08: Cat Williams said it perfectly in the in the interview.
- 1:55:27SPEAKER_06: Don't ever don't ever mistake those two again.
- 1:55:29SPEAKER_06: They're both short, bro.
- 1:55:30SPEAKER_06: I'm sorry.
- 1:55:30SPEAKER_02: I don't know shit, and I made sure to correct you on that.
- 1:55:34SPEAKER_02: I ain't gonna lie.
- 1:55:35SPEAKER_08: I just heard Kevin Hart.
- 1:55:37SPEAKER_08: AG, continue.
- 1:55:38SPEAKER_08: He said that.
- 1:55:40SPEAKER_08: Did she write Girls Trip?
- 1:55:41SPEAKER_08: That nigga said he had that script since 2004.
- 1:55:44SPEAKER_07: Okay.
- 1:55:45SPEAKER_08: So why are we crediting actors for acting?
- 1:55:48SPEAKER_07: Why are we crediting why we credit artists for shit that they don't write?
- 1:55:52SPEAKER_07: Because they're performing.
- 1:55:53SPEAKER_07: Okay, we're in the comedy.
- 1:55:57SPEAKER_01: Comedy and music are different.
- 1:55:59SPEAKER_01: We're on the comedy music.
- 1:56:00SPEAKER_01: Not even that.
- 1:56:01SPEAKER_04: Not even that.
- 1:56:02SPEAKER_04: In in in the music realm, a lot of people don't like to admit where they get their music from because they're contractually constricted.
- 1:56:09SPEAKER_07: And in acting, a lot of motherfuckers don't admit where they get their shit from.
- 1:56:13SPEAKER_07: You have a writer, you have a director.
- 1:56:15SPEAKER_08: It's in the movie credits at the end, my nigga.
- 1:56:16SPEAKER_07: What the fuck are you talking about?
- 1:56:18SPEAKER_07: I've seen people do regular comedy.
- 1:56:19SPEAKER_01: Comedy is more about original content.
- 1:56:22SPEAKER_04: Let's not be hypocritical.
- 1:56:23SPEAKER_04: A couple weeks ago we were talking about Carter B's Cardi B's content or uh artistic um what she brought to the table in the movie that she did uh a few months ago, right?
- 1:56:34SPEAKER_04: The skit.
- 1:56:35SPEAKER_04: Skits that she did a few weeks ago.
- 1:56:37SPEAKER_04: Okay, right.
- 1:56:48SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because even with the real house husbands, he's credited as a creator with someone else, but he is not credited as a creator.
- 1:56:54SPEAKER_01: What did Kevin R say in that interview right?
- 1:56:55SPEAKER_08: He respects the what?
- 1:56:57SPEAKER_08: Who Cat Williams?
- 1:56:59SPEAKER_08: Cat Williams.
- 1:56:59SPEAKER_08: You see, I'm gonna keep doing it all day.
- 1:57:01SPEAKER_08: What did Cat Williams do?
- 1:57:02SPEAKER_07: He said he respects the what?
- 1:57:03SPEAKER_07: The writing writing.
- 1:57:04SPEAKER_07: Okay, now let me ask you a question.
- 1:57:06SPEAKER_07: In Friday, but in Friday, you think Kevin Kev uh you think Cat Williams wrote that his part?
- 1:57:15SPEAKER_07: But that's where we know Cat Williams from?
- 1:57:17SPEAKER_07: But I'm just saying, you think he wrote his part?
- 1:57:19SPEAKER_07: Of course not.
- 1:57:19SPEAKER_01: His point isn't that he's doing he's writing everything he performs in, but as a comedian, he's saying he performs original content.
- 1:57:24SPEAKER_01: Okay, but that's what I'm saying.
- 1:57:25SPEAKER_01: And she hasn't proven herself to do that in fact.
- 1:57:28SPEAKER_07: What do you know Tiffany Haddish?
- 1:57:29SPEAKER_07: I'm just saying, in general, you think a lot of these.
- 1:57:32SPEAKER_07: I didn't know her.
- 1:57:32SPEAKER_07: I didn't know her.
- 1:57:33SPEAKER_07: But do you know her now?
- 1:57:34SPEAKER_08: Why do you know her right now?
- 1:57:35SPEAKER_07: I didn't know her.
- 1:57:36SPEAKER_07: I said the name and point of face.
- 1:57:38SPEAKER_08: So the point I'm trying to prove is she's getting remember Monique with the whole Netflix thing?
- 1:57:43SPEAKER_08: Tiffany Haddish got the Netflix bag without any prerequisite.
- 1:57:48SPEAKER_08: And probably more money than Monique.
- 1:57:50SPEAKER_01: Probably because she could probably act better.
- 1:57:53SPEAKER_07: Well, you don't know.
- 1:57:55SPEAKER_07: Talking about a Netflix stand-up special.
- 1:57:56SPEAKER_07: There's no acting.
- 1:57:57SPEAKER_07: Okay, she got a stand-up special because um how do we right now because she's the initial plant.
- 1:58:02SPEAKER_07: If I can performer someone, hold on, if I can act, that's a performance.
- 1:58:08SPEAKER_01: Can you learn this nigga, please?
- 1:58:09SPEAKER_07: Listen, learn this nigga or teach this nigga.
- 1:58:13SPEAKER_01: A comedy special is different because usually with the comedy special, they'll write, produce, and they're performing in that.
- 1:58:19SPEAKER_07: Yeah, but this is what I'm saying.
- 1:58:20SPEAKER_01: They have other people, they may have directors, but they're writing their shit.
- 1:58:23SPEAKER_07: I can act and I could gather a crowd.
- 1:58:26SPEAKER_07: Now you put me in a stand-up and I could gather a crowd.
- 1:58:29SPEAKER_07: Of course they're gonna try to pick up.
- 1:58:31SPEAKER_01: But again, he's saying she's a plant because other people are pushing for her.
- 1:58:35SPEAKER_01: What does her be in that platform?
- 1:58:37SPEAKER_01: Not because she's talented.
- 1:58:39SPEAKER_07: To me, it's her yelling and acting stupid.
- 1:58:47SPEAKER_08: Are they connecting the dots?
- 1:58:48SPEAKER_08: So is it a coincidence that the biggest woman in comedy is a woman that is degrading herself?
- 1:58:55SPEAKER_07: The biggest woman.
- 1:58:57SPEAKER_07: Now look at Wanda.
- 1:58:58SPEAKER_07: When she was one of the biggest, when she was one of the biggest, what was she doing?
- 1:59:01SPEAKER_07: She was stupid, yelling, and being psyches.
- 1:59:05SPEAKER_07: She was the wander with doing the whole thing.
- 1:59:07SPEAKER_07: When she was doing the whole shit with pooty tank and all that, she was doing the same shit that this video is.
- 1:59:11SPEAKER_07: And stand up and stand up.
- 1:59:15SPEAKER_07: Right before the pooty tank came out and she was doing the same ratchet shit.
- 1:59:18SPEAKER_08: No, Wanda Sykes and Ratchet don't even go in the same sentence.
- 1:59:23SPEAKER_08: So you're the only one in the room that disagrees with.
- 1:59:25SPEAKER_06: Okay, I'm curious.
- 1:59:26SPEAKER_06: Do you you are you a real follower of comedy?
- 1:59:28SPEAKER_06: No.
- 1:59:29SPEAKER_07: I watch a lot of stand-up.
- 1:59:31SPEAKER_06: Who is your top five comedians?
- 1:59:33SPEAKER_06: Name them.
- 1:59:33SPEAKER_06: I'm curious.
- 1:59:34SPEAKER_06: Patrice.
- 1:59:34SPEAKER_07: To be honest, I'll tell you, no.
- 1:59:35SPEAKER_07: Mike Epps.
- 1:59:38SPEAKER_07: Um, I would say, damn.
- 1:59:41SPEAKER_07: What's the dude?
- 1:59:42SPEAKER_07: Um fuck.
- 1:59:43SPEAKER_06: I'll come back to you.
- 1:59:44SPEAKER_06: Go ahead, AJ.
- 1:59:45SPEAKER_08: Top five.
- 1:59:46SPEAKER_08: I got Panita Patricia.
- 1:59:47SPEAKER_08: Think about it.
- 1:59:48SPEAKER_08: Think about it.
- 1:59:49SPEAKER_06: Patrice O'Neal.
- 1:59:50SPEAKER_05: Patrice O'Neill.
- 1:59:51SPEAKER_08: I got Kat.
- 1:59:52SPEAKER_08: I got Dave Chappelle.
- 1:59:53SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
- 1:59:54SPEAKER_08: I got Paul Mooney.
- 1:59:57SPEAKER_08: He's a little sassy, but that nigga's nice.
- 2:00:00SPEAKER_08: He's funny.
- 2:00:00SPEAKER_08: And number five, you can throw George Carlin in there.
- 2:00:04SPEAKER_08: I like, I really like Eddie Murphy a lot.
- 2:00:06SPEAKER_08: The fifth spot is the hardest for me, but for number one, I would just have to stick with Patrice O'Neal.
- 2:00:14SPEAKER_08: I love Dave, though.
- 2:00:15SPEAKER_08: Dave on paper, accolades, perfect.
- 2:00:18SPEAKER_08: Patrice O'Neal's number one for me.
- 2:00:19SPEAKER_06: Okay.
- 2:00:20SPEAKER_06: Because you like you just personally like him.
- 2:00:21SPEAKER_06: Yeah, he's my personal favorite.
- 2:00:22SPEAKER_06: That nigga was he left too soon, man.
- 2:00:25SPEAKER_06: Zap, do you have a top five?
- 2:00:27SPEAKER_06: I don't.
- 2:00:27SPEAKER_08: Fucking Bernie.
- 2:00:30SPEAKER_09: Yeah, Bernie Mac.
- 2:00:31SPEAKER_08: Bernie Mac was Bernie Mac was the best on the Kings of Comedy tour.
- 2:00:35SPEAKER_08: That's my opinion.
- 2:00:35SPEAKER_08: Yeah, you are.
- 2:00:38SPEAKER_04: Top five for me.
- 2:00:39SPEAKER_04: Mine is a little different.
- 2:00:40SPEAKER_04: I don't expect it to be.
- 2:00:41SPEAKER_06: Surge the Entertainer.
- 2:00:43SPEAKER_04: Zap, let him say that.
- 2:00:44SPEAKER_04: So I don't expect anybody to really agree with mine because I don't know too much about comedy as much as I've been exposed from.
- 2:00:50SPEAKER_08: This this nigga, that's his shit.
- 2:00:51SPEAKER_04: Red is the reason why I know anything about comedy.
- 2:00:54SPEAKER_04: Um I mean, besides HBO specials and shit like that.
- 2:00:57SPEAKER_04: But um George Carlin has to be top five.
- 2:01:01SPEAKER_04: He's in top three.
- 2:01:02SPEAKER_04: I just can't put him in the order of which.
- 2:01:04SPEAKER_04: Eddie Murphy, first comedian that I've watched, repeatedly the same material and laughed delirially seriously.
- 2:01:11SPEAKER_04: Delirious.
- 2:01:12SPEAKER_05: I don't know.
- 2:01:13SPEAKER_05: I just think y'all kind of selling Kevin Hart short, no pun intended.
- 2:01:16SPEAKER_08: So you think Kevin Hart is.
- 2:01:17SPEAKER_08: Nah, I don't think he was that.
- 2:01:18SPEAKER_01: I don't think I don't have anything against Kevin, but I agree.
- 2:01:20SPEAKER_01: Like, even just from the first time.
- 2:01:22SPEAKER_01: Y'all ever see a long time I watched a comedy special of his, it wasn't really that funny.
- 2:01:26SPEAKER_01: It was kind of dry.
- 2:01:28SPEAKER_01: It was kind of dry.
- 2:01:29SPEAKER_08: When he was acting out, his father walking in the crowd with his dick just hitting kids in the head.
- 2:01:33SPEAKER_08: That was hilarious.
- 2:01:35SPEAKER_08: And that's it?
- 2:01:36SPEAKER_08: Compared to there's multiple, there's multiple things.
- 2:01:39SPEAKER_08: Yo, if you listen to Patrice O'Neill's Black Women Trying to Buy a Cell Phone thing, yo, that is the funniest shit ever.
- 2:01:46SPEAKER_01: The problem is that I just think a lot of people don't have the content to compare.
- 2:01:49SPEAKER_01: That's why they feel like Kevin.
- 2:01:51SPEAKER_08: Kevin is he's coming up in the perfect time straight.
- 2:01:54SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
- 2:01:54SPEAKER_01: There's not so much big competition for him right now.
- 2:01:57SPEAKER_08: He's got a fucking sneaker deal.
- 2:01:58SPEAKER_08: He's the only comedian ever to have his own fucking sneaker.
- 2:02:01SPEAKER_04: I mean you can't compare him with nobody.
- 2:02:03SPEAKER_04: I'm gonna go out here on a limb and say Kevin Hart is comparing Kevin Hart to like other comedians in the realm in in his industry is like 6'9 nowadays.
- 2:02:13SPEAKER_04: Because he's making money should not be named.
- 2:02:16SPEAKER_04: Can I give you my top six?
- 2:02:17SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that's uh excuse me, Voldemort.
- 2:02:19SPEAKER_04: Voldemort.
- 2:02:20SPEAKER_04: Can I give you my top six before I forget?
- 2:02:21SPEAKER_04: Did you give me a top?
- 2:02:22SPEAKER_04: Did you give me a top five?
- 2:02:23SPEAKER_04: My my top five, I was can I was uh interrupted, but go ahead.
- 2:02:26SPEAKER_04: George Cole, George Crohl.
- 2:02:27SPEAKER_07: Can I give you my top six?
- 2:02:29SPEAKER_07: Give me a top five with your honorary.
- 2:02:31SPEAKER_07: Okay.
- 2:02:32SPEAKER_07: Um Eddie Murphy.
- 2:02:34SPEAKER_07: You said this the top guy is um what'd you say his name was?
- 2:02:38SPEAKER_07: Tay Rock.
- 2:02:39SPEAKER_07: Tony Rock.
- 2:02:40SPEAKER_07: Tony Rock.
- 2:02:41SPEAKER_07: Um Chris Rock's brother.
- 2:02:43SPEAKER_07: Kat Williams.
- 2:02:44SPEAKER_07: Oh, damn, I've done it.
- 2:02:45SPEAKER_07: Um Kevin Hart, um, Russell Peters, and um Bernie Mack.
- 2:02:52SPEAKER_07: Russell Peters.
- 2:02:53SPEAKER_06: Russell Russell Peters, he's a he's he's a very funny comedian.
- 2:02:56SPEAKER_06: He's he's he's he's hilarious.
- 2:02:58SPEAKER_06: Top five?
- 2:02:59SPEAKER_06: But top five.
- 2:03:01SPEAKER_06: No, it's not in no order, but that's the first six I could think of.
- 2:03:04SPEAKER_06: That's your top five.
- 2:03:05unknown: I was just racist.
- 2:03:06SPEAKER_06: That's your top five.
- 2:03:07SPEAKER_07: Yeah, that's the sixth I can think of from the top of my head.
- 2:03:10SPEAKER_07: I did think.
- 2:03:11SPEAKER_04: No, he did take your heart.
- 2:03:12SPEAKER_04: Go ahead.
- 2:03:13SPEAKER_04: Mine sucks.
- 2:03:14SPEAKER_04: Go ahead.
- 2:03:14SPEAKER_04: Um, what was my first three?
- 2:03:16SPEAKER_04: What did I say?
- 2:03:16SPEAKER_04: George Carlos.
- 2:03:17SPEAKER_04: I didn't even go back to Red Fox.
- 2:03:19SPEAKER_04: Eddie Murphy.
- 2:03:19SPEAKER_04: Eddie Murphy.
- 2:03:21SPEAKER_04: Um Jim Carrey.
- 2:03:23SPEAKER_04: I'm not saying Jim Carrey.
- 2:03:24SPEAKER_04: Jim Carrey's nice, though.
- 2:03:25SPEAKER_04: Hold on.
- 2:03:25SPEAKER_04: Jim Carrey is funny as fuck.
- 2:03:27SPEAKER_04: He's one of those white boys.
- 2:03:29SPEAKER_04: Yes, yes, he's heard.
- 2:03:31SPEAKER_04: No, no, no, no, no.
- 2:03:32SPEAKER_04: Oh!
- 2:03:32SPEAKER_01: Fuck, I forgot about him!
- 2:03:34SPEAKER_08: He got exposed though.
- 2:03:35SPEAKER_08: I who got exposed by um We saw him on Palisades Mowens.
- 2:03:38SPEAKER_01: Come on, you know the nigga.
- 2:03:39SPEAKER_01: What's his name?
- 2:03:40SPEAKER_08: Corey Holcomb.
- 2:03:41SPEAKER_08: He got exposed by Cory Holcomb.
- 2:03:43SPEAKER_08: He's pretty funny.
- 2:03:44SPEAKER_01: I like him.
- 2:03:44SPEAKER_01: He's hilarious because his impressions are on point.
- 2:03:48SPEAKER_01: Who did Mrs.
- 2:03:48SPEAKER_01: Delphi?
- 2:03:49SPEAKER_01: I want to hear Reds, honestly.
- 2:03:50SPEAKER_01: Robin Williams, yeah.
- 2:03:51SPEAKER_04: Robin motherfucking Williams.
- 2:03:53SPEAKER_04: What?
- 2:03:53SPEAKER_04: Stand-up?
- 2:03:54SPEAKER_04: Hell fucking yeah.
- 2:03:55SPEAKER_04: You ever seen him eat pussy on the stand-up?
- 2:03:57SPEAKER_04: Nah.
- 2:03:58SPEAKER_04: Funniest fucking thing on the street.
- 2:04:00SPEAKER_06: As much as I loved Robin Williams, he was a joke thief.
- 2:04:04SPEAKER_08: I want to hear, I wanna hear Reds, honestly.
- 2:04:08SPEAKER_04: My fourth?
- 2:04:09SPEAKER_04: Oh, who's my fifth?
- 2:04:10SPEAKER_04: Uh, anyway.
- 2:04:12SPEAKER_04: Nobody said Red Fox.
- 2:04:13SPEAKER_04: That's the crazy part.
- 2:04:14SPEAKER_04: Okay, Red Fox.
- 2:04:15SPEAKER_04: I don't know his material like that.
- 2:04:17SPEAKER_08: All right.
- 2:04:19SPEAKER_08: He got this shit written down.
- 2:04:20SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
- 2:04:20SPEAKER_08: That's how you do it.
- 2:04:21SPEAKER_08: He's official.
- 2:04:23SPEAKER_08: I got my rap one written down.
- 2:04:24SPEAKER_08: He got his nigga.
- 2:04:26SPEAKER_06: My top five comedian list.
- 2:04:28SPEAKER_06: Coming in at number five.
- 2:04:31SPEAKER_06: Earthquake.
- 2:04:32SPEAKER_08: Famine.
- 2:04:34SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 2:04:34SPEAKER_06: Coming in at number four.
- 2:04:36unknown: That's a bad thing with the eddy.
- 2:04:38SPEAKER_06: Eddie Murphy.
- 2:04:40SPEAKER_06: Eddie Murphy coming in at number coming in at number four.
- 2:04:43SPEAKER_06: Coming in at number three, Martin Lawrence.
- 2:04:49SPEAKER_06: Coming through at number two, Dave Chappelle.
- 2:04:52SPEAKER_06: Yeah, Dave.
- 2:04:53SPEAKER_06: And coming in at number one, George Carlin.
- 2:04:56unknown: Okay.
- 2:04:56SPEAKER_04: George Collins.
- 2:04:57SPEAKER_04: Actually, I have to biasly revise my entire chart.
- 2:05:00SPEAKER_06: Now an honorary, an honorary sixth person for who I feel are the funniest people.
- 2:05:12SPEAKER_06: I would have to put Paul Mooney up there.
- 2:05:14SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 2:05:15SPEAKER_06: Yeah, Paul Mooney is a funny guy.
- 2:05:16SPEAKER_06: You wrote for prior, bro.
- 2:05:17SPEAKER_06: Yeah, and that's and that's my thing with people, you know, that they're like, oh, Richard Pryor is this, Richard Pry's.
- 2:05:21SPEAKER_06: Richard Pryor, he may have been good, but he had Paul Mooney penning a lot of his jokes.
- 2:05:28SPEAKER_06: Paul Mooney, if you don't know, is a lot behind a lot of the writing on the Chappelle show when it came to Negro Damas, the Clayton Bigsby shit, um the Clayton Bigsby skits, the Shaka Damas, and you know, other things like that, or whatever.
- 2:05:44SPEAKER_06: Like the ones that had that real racial tone to it, Paul Mooney influenced a lot of that.
- 2:05:50SPEAKER_06: So that's my honorary sixth.
- 2:05:52SPEAKER_07: Now, I I I must say I like how do you feel about Patrice?
- 2:05:55unknown: La Pumba?
- 2:05:56SPEAKER_07: I'm not really a fan.
- 2:05:58SPEAKER_07: How do you feel about how do you feel about Carlos Mencia?
- 2:06:00SPEAKER_07: I've never listened to a fluffy Mexican?
- 2:06:04SPEAKER_07: Oh, no, no, no.
- 2:06:05SPEAKER_07: No, no, no, no, no.
- 2:06:06SPEAKER_06: That's Gabriel and Glacius.
- 2:06:08SPEAKER_06: Yeah, Gabriel Iglesias.
- 2:06:09SPEAKER_07: Oh, and that's all that.
- 2:06:10SPEAKER_07: That nigga's funny as fuck.
- 2:06:14SPEAKER_06: I saw Gabriel Inglesius um in New Jersey live.
- 2:06:18SPEAKER_06: Who the fuck did I say?
- 2:06:19SPEAKER_06: And I wanted I smoked and had a fucking edible beforehand.
- 2:06:24SPEAKER_06: And I was up.
- 2:06:26SPEAKER_06: So that was biased.
- 2:06:27SPEAKER_06: And his fucking performance enhancing and his comedy was not entertaining to me at all.
- 2:06:32SPEAKER_08: Can I can I ask you a favor?
- 2:06:33SPEAKER_08: Can you listen to um uh Patrice O'Neill did an Opie and Anthony um I think it's called The Greatest Story Ever Told.
- 2:06:40SPEAKER_08: It was like a radio show kind of thing.
- 2:06:42SPEAKER_08: That's on YouTube is like two parts.
- 2:06:43SPEAKER_08: Listen to that, and I think you'll get a new respect for the city.
- 2:06:48SPEAKER_06: Let me say this.
- 2:06:51SPEAKER_06: Are you a follower on YouTube?
- 2:06:52SPEAKER_06: Like do you watch like YouTube shit?
- 2:06:54SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 2:06:54SPEAKER_06: Maurice Kane Carter.
- 2:06:56SPEAKER_06: I don't know who that is.
- 2:06:57SPEAKER_06: He is someone who's been alleged of taking a lot of Patrice O'Neal's.
- 2:07:02SPEAKER_08: Oh, he's spoken word?
- 2:07:03SPEAKER_08: That's his name or some shit like that?
- 2:07:05SPEAKER_08: Because another dude named Spoken Word did the same thing.
- 2:07:07SPEAKER_06: His name is Hadam Iraq.
- 2:07:08SPEAKER_06: Oh, yeah.
- 2:07:09SPEAKER_06: Maurice Kane Carter.
- 2:07:10SPEAKER_06: Um, he's been alleged for taking a lot of Patrice O'Neal's material.
- 2:07:13SPEAKER_06: And I have listened to some of his stuff, or whatever the case.
- 2:07:16SPEAKER_07: I'm just not really like you know, you know what I would like for this podcast to do is a Friday or Saturday night.
- 2:07:24SPEAKER_07: Friday or Saturday night, we'll go to there's a comedy club in Manhattan.
- 2:07:28SPEAKER_07: I think it's called NYC Comedy Club, where they have like, you know, these amateurs and then they have like one big name that's basically under, like not topping in like the view of like the media.
- 2:07:40SPEAKER_07: I want us to go there and have a podcast on that episode and rate everybody that we've seen and see what the difference is between everybody.
- 2:07:47SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 2:07:48SPEAKER_08: I mean, you know, it's all it's just like music, it's very subjective.
- 2:07:51SPEAKER_08: But I just know Red has an expertise because he's been behind the scenes and he's he's really into comedy.
- 2:07:57SPEAKER_08: Like everybody's into music, but not everybody's into comedy.
- 2:08:00SPEAKER_08: It's like a very niche thing to be into, and that's why I put his opinion just a little bit higher than everything that has that.
- 2:08:06SPEAKER_08: My comedy IQ.
- 2:08:08SPEAKER_06: And you know, and here's why I don't like Evan Hart.
- 2:08:10SPEAKER_06: And I'm gonna explain to you.
- 2:08:12SPEAKER_06: Number one, he's obnoxious as fuck.
- 2:08:13SPEAKER_06: He's extremely animated, and that right there is like the loudest one in the room is the weakest one in the room.
- 2:08:21SPEAKER_06: I mean Napoleonic.
- 2:08:23SPEAKER_06: The loudest one in the room is the weakest one in the room.
- 2:08:25SPEAKER_06: You're over fucking animated.
- 2:08:27SPEAKER_06: You don't write all of your fucking material, and on top of that, the jokes are extremely fucking predictable.
- 2:08:34SPEAKER_06: I watched I watched one of those, I think it's like his first real big stand-up or whatever that came out in theaters at my boys' crib.
- 2:08:44SPEAKER_06: It was about four or five of us.
- 2:08:46SPEAKER_06: They were all chuckling and going back and forth and laughing.
- 2:08:51SPEAKER_06: I want to be honest with you.
- 2:08:52SPEAKER_06: I chuckled, and when I mean chuckle, I mean like I see the humor in it.
- 2:08:58SPEAKER_06: Maybe twice throughout the whole fucking thing.
- 2:09:01SPEAKER_06: I feel like his comedy is not fucking entertaining to me.
- 2:09:05SPEAKER_06: Get up off your seat laughing.
- 2:09:07SPEAKER_06: His comedy IQ is very low.
- 2:09:11SPEAKER_07: I feel like it just cause you're so used to comedy that you have a different, a different, I guess, scene for like what's funny to you.
- 2:09:21SPEAKER_07: Cause to me, there's stuff that I was like, a lot of Martin Lawrence stuff.
- 2:09:26SPEAKER_07: That's what I'm saying.
- 2:09:29SPEAKER_07: Nah, I'm saying there's stuff that I've heard by Martin Lawrence that I don't find funny.
- 2:09:32SPEAKER_07: Stand up or show up.
- 2:09:33SPEAKER_07: Stand up, stand up, stand up.
- 2:09:34SPEAKER_04: Because you were two years old and you couldn't relate, bro.
- 2:09:36SPEAKER_08: You couldn't.
- 2:09:37SPEAKER_07: No, but I'm saying now, listen now.
- 2:09:40SPEAKER_08: Let's talk about with his dick.
- 2:09:41SPEAKER_08: And he was just like, yo, when I'm soft, you know, I like I gotta when I get hard, I hang with the big million.
- 2:09:50SPEAKER_02: I can relate to that on a personal level.
- 2:09:52SPEAKER_02: I'm a grower and not a shore as well.
- 2:09:53SPEAKER_02: Yo, that was the funny shit.
- 2:09:56SPEAKER_02: Don't mean I'm I'm not gonna be able to do it.
- 2:09:59SPEAKER_02: Y'all have to realize I'm a runner.
- 2:10:01SPEAKER_06: Y'all have to realize I gotta get out the way.
- 2:10:03SPEAKER_06: Y'all have to realize how influential Martin is.
- 2:10:07SPEAKER_06: And his legacy is in the comedy game.
- 2:10:09SPEAKER_06: Martin Lawrence was seen the pictures.
- 2:10:11SPEAKER_02: Y'all couldn't have put a little ice up under my shit to spruce it up a little bit.
- 2:10:16SPEAKER_02: Before Red got here.
- 2:10:17SPEAKER_08: Yeah, Red.
- 2:10:19SPEAKER_06: Martin Lawrence was the first host of Deaf Comedy Jam.
- 2:10:23SPEAKER_08: Okay.
- 2:10:23SPEAKER_06: Martin Lawrence was the fucking epitome of raw comedy.
- 2:10:29SPEAKER_06: Back when comedy was fun.
- 2:10:32SPEAKER_06: Now it's very business oriented because of how it's meshed.
- 2:10:36SPEAKER_06: Thanks to Bad Boys of Comedy and all that type of comedy.
- 2:10:40SPEAKER_08: Can you say faggot still?
- 2:10:41SPEAKER_08: In the comedy?
- 2:10:41SPEAKER_08: Absolutely.
- 2:10:42SPEAKER_08: Yeah, you can't find it.
- 2:10:42SPEAKER_06: You can still say faggots.
- 2:10:43SPEAKER_06: Like in the comedy clubs, like the real thing.
- 2:10:49SPEAKER_06: It's just comedy.
- 2:10:49SPEAKER_06: Like you can say what you want.
- 2:10:51SPEAKER_06: And that's why I'm a fan of DL Hugley's comedy and his ideology.
- 2:10:57SPEAKER_06: Well, excuse me.
- 2:10:58SPEAKER_06: I'm a fan of his ideology.
- 2:11:00SPEAKER_06: Not so much his actually actual comedy.
- 2:11:03SPEAKER_06: Because like Darius said, um, excuse me, Sir Chubb said, um, there's certain uh comedians who make a career out of snapping on you.
- 2:11:12SPEAKER_06: And that's where DL Hugley is real funny when he's snapping on you.
- 2:11:17SPEAKER_06: But when he speaks the truth, when he speaks, his ideology behind it is, yo, like like Dave Chappelle said, I have a non-apologetic policy with the things that I say on stage.
- 2:11:32SPEAKER_06: So if you can't be truthful on a comedy stage, then where the fuck can you be truthful at?
- 2:11:36SPEAKER_06: You know what I'm saying?
- 2:11:37SPEAKER_06: So he doesn't apologize to the city.
- 2:11:40SPEAKER_06: He doesn't he doesn't apologize, and nor does he feel a certain way about anything that he says, and that's where I that's where I support the freedom of speech.
- 2:11:49SPEAKER_07: I love like I bet that's why I say I wanted us to go to the comic club because I've been there.
- 2:11:53SPEAKER_07: And I love when they can snap on the crowd, because the one thing that stuck in my head when I first went was I walked in and it's Like this.
- 2:12:03SPEAKER_07: I went with my friend to the white.
- 2:12:04SPEAKER_07: Look at this nigga in this mismatch and his outfit, nigga.
- 2:12:07SPEAKER_07: Nah, we all had like different colors.
- 2:12:09SPEAKER_07: Like one, I think one had like a turquoise blue, one had a purple shirt.
- 2:12:11SPEAKER_07: We I had like a I think like a green shirt, and one of my friends had an arm shirt.
- 2:12:16SPEAKER_04: And it's front and shit.
- 2:12:16SPEAKER_07: Like we went in like two minutes late, and the comedian on stage goes, Oh fuck.
- 2:12:21SPEAKER_07: We got the back of motherfucking fat ass skin walking in this bitch.
- 2:12:25SPEAKER_07: I kid you not.
- 2:12:26SPEAKER_07: I turned around and I started laughing because I was like, fuck.
- 2:12:28SPEAKER_07: We had a center attention.
- 2:12:30SPEAKER_06: You gotta laugh with it.
- 2:12:30SPEAKER_06: Like I'm like, we're the center often.
- 2:12:32SPEAKER_07: But then he goes, Nah, you see these motherfuckers in front?
- 2:12:35SPEAKER_07: Nah, I need y'all to go to bed.
- 2:12:36SPEAKER_07: I need these fat fucks right here.
- 2:12:37SPEAKER_07: They look like they can't spend money.
- 2:12:38SPEAKER_07: They got four white guys and a one nigga.
- 2:12:40SPEAKER_07: I kid you not, when that happened, I started dying.
- 2:12:44SPEAKER_07: It was like the funniest shit.
- 2:12:46SPEAKER_07: But I did hate the center of attention, but it was hilarious.
- 2:12:50SPEAKER_06: But you have to also understand that it's not every comedian's craft to even talk about to talk about people in the crowd.
- 2:12:56SPEAKER_06: Now, it's usually in a comedian's nature to be able to snap on people, but they only do it once the once a heckler starts or some shit like that.
- 2:13:06SPEAKER_06: I've seen it happen.
- 2:13:07SPEAKER_06: I've seen hecklers get completely fucking destroyed.
- 2:13:10SPEAKER_01: Don't worry shit if you don't want to stand out home.
- 2:13:14SPEAKER_06: I'm gonna send something to a group where George Carlin completely destroyed the heckler.
- 2:13:18SPEAKER_06: Shouts to my dude Rich Voss.
- 2:13:20SPEAKER_06: He completely destroyed the Heckler on uh Martin Lawrence First Amendment stand.
- 2:13:25SPEAKER_06: Like there's just certain things in the in the comedy game like Kevin Hart, I don't really see him being that, you know what I'm saying?
- 2:13:33SPEAKER_01: But back to the point like with Tiffany Haddish, like he Cat Williams also said, like, can you do you even know like uh Tiffany Haddish joke?
- 2:13:40SPEAKER_01: Just like you guys were referencing different jokes from different comedians.
- 2:13:43SPEAKER_01: He was like, he she hasn't toured yet, she hasn't proven herself comedically yet.
- 2:13:47SPEAKER_08: But she got the bag for nothing.
- 2:13:49SPEAKER_01: Exactly, exactly.
- 2:13:50SPEAKER_01: And look at Monique, she was like, Y'all, we're all so ready to download.
- 2:13:53SPEAKER_06: Tiffany Haddish is not even a Lunel.
- 2:13:56SPEAKER_06: I don't know what that is.
- 2:13:57SPEAKER_06: Oh.
- 2:14:01SPEAKER_06: She's fucking hilarious.
- 2:14:02SPEAKER_06: She's not even a Lunel.
- 2:14:04SPEAKER_06: Yeah, she's she's brown skin mom.
- 2:14:07SPEAKER_07: But that's why I said Tuesday.
- 2:14:11SPEAKER_04: So you know how AG, let me let me say this.
- 2:14:14SPEAKER_04: So you know how we look at a lot of uh rappers, if they don't have the talent to be able to uh display um uh rap battles or um freestyles, we don't we discredit them.
- 2:14:27SPEAKER_04: It's the same in um in in comedians.
- 2:14:30SPEAKER_04: If you're not able to handle a heckler, like think off the top of your head and still naturally be funny, that's something that a lot of our comics nowadays are missing.
- 2:14:39SPEAKER_04: Because if you look at all Def Jam, the crowd knew when to shut up.
- 2:14:44SPEAKER_04: That was a vulgar, vulgar crowd.
- 2:14:46SPEAKER_04: They had light insecurity at that time.
- 2:14:49SPEAKER_04: I'll kill that.
- 2:14:50SPEAKER_04: She's people were lawless at that time, but still the comedians knew yo, if I don't handle this heckler, they all gonna bomb me.
- 2:14:58SPEAKER_04: And they had they had the talent to be able to dwell that.
- 2:15:01SPEAKER_04: She's hilarious.
- 2:15:02SPEAKER_04: A lot of these comedians nowadays can't do that.
- 2:15:04SPEAKER_04: Just like a lot of these rappers can't freestyle.
- 2:15:06SPEAKER_04: I'm not not I can't freestyle.
- 2:15:08SPEAKER_04: I'm not knocking people who can.
- 2:15:10SPEAKER_04: But just understand that there was a realm, there was a uh a genre of people who still only are known because they can excel at that point.
- 2:15:19SPEAKER_04: But that was the pinnacle of being a rapper.
- 2:15:22SPEAKER_07: But that's why I say, like, when you say people are plant, that's why I say Kevin Hart's not a plant.
- 2:15:27SPEAKER_07: Because KOltra was saying, you know.
- 2:15:29SPEAKER_07: Your opinion.
- 2:15:30SPEAKER_07: Klotra was saying, can you name a joke that Tiffany had to say?
- 2:15:34SPEAKER_07: There's a bunch of people in the in in just anywhere that can name a lot of jokes that Kevin Hart said.
- 2:15:38SPEAKER_08: After this Netflix special, you will be able to.
- 2:15:40SPEAKER_07: No, but I'm just saying, like, even with Kevin Hart.
- 2:15:42SPEAKER_04: Yo, I didn't know Kevin Hart until uh Soul Plane.
- 2:15:45SPEAKER_04: And he said, Did you just ground on me?
- 2:15:47SPEAKER_04: But this is what I'm saying.
- 2:15:49SPEAKER_07: But you ain't saying so you never knew the joke when he said my father came up to the spell and be talking about spell long dick.
- 2:15:55SPEAKER_07: You ain't know that joke?
- 2:15:56SPEAKER_04: Absolutely not.
- 2:15:57SPEAKER_04: No, but he hasn't.
- 2:15:58SPEAKER_04: I heard about that today.
- 2:15:59SPEAKER_01: The point is he was planted, but he's big now, obviously.
- 2:16:02SPEAKER_01: But the point is originally he's exactly.
- 2:16:05SPEAKER_07: I just don't feel like he's a plant because it's jokes that he said that people can say, you feel me?
- 2:16:09SPEAKER_07: Like even what he said when his dad came, he's like, I don't give a fuck.
- 2:16:13SPEAKER_07: My father would never look at the cross the fucking first step.
- 2:16:15SPEAKER_07: That nigga took all the shit from the fucking step.
- 2:16:16SPEAKER_07: But my mom can't hear that.
- 2:16:18SPEAKER_07: But it's not a good thing.
- 2:16:20SPEAKER_07: Understand this.
- 2:16:21SPEAKER_04: The reason why certain people may perceive him to be a plant is this.
- 2:16:25SPEAKER_04: Where did you hear from him?
- 2:16:27SPEAKER_07: Me was there was an old comedy that he did.
- 2:16:29SPEAKER_07: It was like an old ass um stand-up comedy that he did.
- 2:16:32SPEAKER_07: It was a rainbow background, and on the back, I can't I can't remember exact color, but that's where I heard him from.
- 2:16:38SPEAKER_04: Okay, so where did you start following him from?
- 2:16:40SPEAKER_07: I just saw it on YouTube.
- 2:16:41SPEAKER_07: On YouTube.
- 2:16:42SPEAKER_07: Exactly.
- 2:16:43SPEAKER_08: I remember the movie Paper Soldiers.
- 2:16:44SPEAKER_08: He was hilarious in it.
- 2:16:45SPEAKER_08: It was a comedy thing?
- 2:16:46SPEAKER_08: It was a movie.
- 2:16:47SPEAKER_08: Paper Soldiers?
- 2:16:48SPEAKER_08: I don't even remember.
- 2:16:49SPEAKER_08: It wasn't a special, no.
- 2:16:50SPEAKER_08: No, that's a comedy movie.
- 2:16:52SPEAKER_01: What genre was the movie in?
- 2:16:53SPEAKER_04: Where it says shout outs to Dame Dash for giving him his first fucking shot.
- 2:16:56SPEAKER_08: I just want to put a button in this um this whole topic.
- 2:17:00SPEAKER_08: Sticker with the button, ad leg.
- 2:17:01SPEAKER_04: Nah, I love Joe Button.
- 2:17:02SPEAKER_04: He has the best podcast to me.
- 2:17:03SPEAKER_04: No, Joe Button is uh what one of my top 20 rappers.
- 2:17:09SPEAKER_04: He's up there.
- 2:17:10SPEAKER_04: I'm gonna be real to you, bugger.
- 2:17:11SPEAKER_04: Huh?
- 2:17:12SPEAKER_04: You're butting, you're bugging.
- 2:17:13SPEAKER_07: What you mean?
- 2:17:13SPEAKER_07: What's on here to have to pump it up?
- 2:17:15SPEAKER_07: I don't give a shit.
- 2:17:16SPEAKER_07: I like that if he can hire fucking album.
- 2:17:18SPEAKER_07: He can't rap his asshole.
- 2:17:19SPEAKER_07: He can rap.
- 2:17:20SPEAKER_07: Top 20?
- 2:17:21SPEAKER_04: When Joe Button was on hot 97, that's when I was as a personality?
- 2:17:25SPEAKER_04: As a personality.
- 2:17:25SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 2:17:26SPEAKER_07: You see how we just seem to always find our way back to music?
- 2:17:28SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 2:17:29SPEAKER_04: See, that's the thing about society nowadays.
- 2:17:31SPEAKER_04: No, this is our culture.
- 2:17:32SPEAKER_04: Exactly.
- 2:17:33SPEAKER_04: We're geared up to what media presentations.
- 2:17:35SPEAKER_08: And I I can't wait until Terrell, TC the Challenger, comes to the podcast because he's trying to tell me that music, hip hop, music is not black culture.
- 2:17:45SPEAKER_04: It's not fundamentally that could be his argument.
- 2:17:54SPEAKER_07: Nope, nope.
- 2:17:54SPEAKER_07: Let's hold that till we do that.
- 2:17:58SPEAKER_07: Hold that till we do that.
- 2:18:00SPEAKER_08: I don't want you to give him ammo.
- 2:18:01SPEAKER_08: I don't want you to.
- 2:18:01SPEAKER_08: It's not ammo.
- 2:18:02SPEAKER_07: Let's help him until we do that episode.
- 2:18:06SPEAKER_04: Finance has nothing to do with originality.
- 2:18:08SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 2:18:09SPEAKER_07: Thank this hadn't been another episode of Gather.
- 2:18:11SPEAKER_07: Shut up, shut up.
- 2:18:11SPEAKER_07: Next week.
- 2:18:12SPEAKER_08: Just to put a button on the topic.
- 2:18:13SPEAKER_07: Um, Tiffany had his plant.
- 2:18:16SPEAKER_07: I could see her being a plant, not Cat Williams.
- 2:18:18SPEAKER_04: Tiffany had his plant.
- 2:18:18SPEAKER_04: Didn't hear about her until Cat Williams spoke about it.
- 2:18:21SPEAKER_04: Tiffany had his plant.
- 2:18:22SPEAKER_04: Yeah, unfortunately.
- 2:18:24SPEAKER_08: Tiffany had his plant.
- 2:18:28SPEAKER_08: I think it's dropped the mic three times this episode.
- 2:18:30SPEAKER_08: I feel like you, I feel like she's just coming up and working hard.
- 2:18:32SPEAKER_08: That's my opinion.
- 2:18:33SPEAKER_08: Three times.
- 2:18:34SPEAKER_08: Alright, so you don't think she's a plant?
- 2:18:36SPEAKER_08: That's cool.
- 2:18:36SPEAKER_08: Redly.
- 2:18:37SPEAKER_07: I think she's a plant.
- 2:18:38SPEAKER_07: But I don't think Cat Williams.
- 2:18:39SPEAKER_07: I think she's a plant.
- 2:18:40SPEAKER_01: No, because I agree.
- 2:18:41SPEAKER_01: We'll see when, like, you know, when her comedy special comes out.
- 2:18:43SPEAKER_01: That's like how funny it is.
- 2:18:45SPEAKER_04: She has no reason.
- 2:18:46SPEAKER_01: She didn't say anything that wasn't true.
- 2:18:48SPEAKER_04: She has no reason to excel further than Monique.
- 2:18:51SPEAKER_04: No reason.
- 2:18:52SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 2:18:52SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 2:18:52SPEAKER_04: I agree.
- 2:18:53SPEAKER_04: Talent-wise, no reason.
- 2:18:54SPEAKER_04: I agree.
- 2:18:54SPEAKER_04: Okay, so she's not offered a bigger deal.
- 2:18:57SPEAKER_04: Like, it was disrespectful what they offered her.
- 2:18:59SPEAKER_01: Yo, let me not just be disrespectful.
- 2:19:02SPEAKER_04: See, everything, a lot of these things go with our entertainers as on appearance.
- 2:19:07SPEAKER_04: I'm not trying to discredit her for being.
- 2:19:09SPEAKER_04: She's not ugly.
- 2:19:10SPEAKER_04: She's a beautiful looking person.
- 2:19:12SPEAKER_04: I don't think she's attractive.
- 2:19:14SPEAKER_04: She's not Tiffany Haddish.
- 2:19:16SPEAKER_04: Why do you not think she's attractive?
- 2:19:17SPEAKER_04: Because she's unattractive.
- 2:19:19SPEAKER_01: She looked a little better when she was younger.
- 2:19:20SPEAKER_01: If that mold bothers you, I understand.
- 2:19:22SPEAKER_01: I have a mold too.
- 2:19:23SPEAKER_01: Now that molding.
- 2:19:23SPEAKER_01: It grew.
- 2:19:24SPEAKER_01: No.
- 2:19:24SPEAKER_01: When it was like so when she was younger, it was much smaller.
- 2:19:27SPEAKER_01: So obviously it grows over time.
- 2:19:28SPEAKER_01: It does.
- 2:19:29SPEAKER_01: But it does bother me.
- 2:19:29SPEAKER_01: That's why I gotta go to beer.
- 2:19:30SPEAKER_02: Nigga, I got two of them.
- 2:19:32SPEAKER_02: Speaking.
- 2:19:33SPEAKER_06: It just so happened that today's National Guacamole Day, by the way.
- 2:19:36SPEAKER_06: What the fuck?
- 2:19:38SPEAKER_08: Shout out to Tiffany Haddish.
- 2:19:40SPEAKER_08: I don't think she's scared.
- 2:19:43SPEAKER_04: Personally.
- 2:19:44SPEAKER_04: I don't think she's unattractive.
- 2:19:45SPEAKER_04: I think she was more attractive when she was younger.
- 2:19:48SPEAKER_04: But yes, she's like, I'm a special type of girl.
- 2:19:50SPEAKER_04: I'm a feminist.
- 2:19:51SPEAKER_04: I don't think she's unattractive.
- 2:19:54SPEAKER_00: No, I think Beyonce's still as attractive now as she was back then.
- 2:19:56SPEAKER_00: Women have to be a big one.
- 2:19:59SPEAKER_08: I don't think Tiffany Haddish is an attractive woman.
- 2:20:01SPEAKER_08: I don't think she's unattractive.
- 2:20:04SPEAKER_04: Everybody's um everybody's open to their own opinion.
- 2:20:08unknown: Oh no, bro.
- 2:20:09SPEAKER_04: But all I'm saying is how do you feel?
- 2:20:11SPEAKER_04: How do I feel about Tiffany Haddish?
- 2:20:14SPEAKER_04: She doesn't annoy me.
- 2:20:15SPEAKER_04: I don't I have no talk about her attraction.
- 2:20:18SPEAKER_08: She's cute.
- 2:20:19SPEAKER_08: If you were a single man with your woman in the mo in the room.
- 2:20:22SPEAKER_08: I'm a different type of man.
- 2:20:23SPEAKER_01: He can say what he wants.
- 2:20:24SPEAKER_01: Go ahead.
- 2:20:25SPEAKER_08: Not all men can.
- 2:20:26SPEAKER_04: See, no, I can't.
- 2:20:27SPEAKER_01: She'll be a fucking kill.
- 2:20:28SPEAKER_01: He can, trust me.
- 2:20:29SPEAKER_01: I can say everything I want.
- 2:20:31SPEAKER_04: No, my woman is the same way.
- 2:20:32SPEAKER_04: Alright.
- 2:20:32SPEAKER_04: Not all men are.
- 2:20:33SPEAKER_01: Don't paint me as those type of girls.
- 2:20:34SPEAKER_04: No, no, no, no.
- 2:20:35SPEAKER_04: I just gotta make sure, you know?
- 2:20:37SPEAKER_04: She so doesn't uh uh change my perception of what I think that I didn't even think about that.
- 2:20:43SPEAKER_04: Yeah, my woman's because my girl is in the room doesn't change my perception of how good I'm gonna say right now.
- 2:20:50SPEAKER_04: I appreciate that.
- 2:20:50SPEAKER_04: Because I thought the girl was saying here, I'd have been fucked up for saying shit.
- 2:20:53SPEAKER_04: She is an attractive woman.
- 2:20:54SPEAKER_04: Is this a Dominican thing?
- 2:20:55SPEAKER_04: Maybe?
- 2:20:56SPEAKER_04: No, it's not a Dominican thing.
- 2:20:57SPEAKER_04: It's being comfortable with yourself, but Dominican women know they're on top.
- 2:21:00SPEAKER_04: So I gotta find somebody that's gonna be like, not all the women, not there's different types of definitely Dominican women.
- 2:21:07SPEAKER_04: That's all I gotta say.
- 2:21:09SPEAKER_08: I cut my girl's ass all the time for being a big deal.
- 2:21:10SPEAKER_04: Listen, I got slapped at like nine for saying, Ma, I'm gonna marry a Dominican woman.
- 2:21:14SPEAKER_04: Oh, really?
- 2:21:15SPEAKER_04: So I told her that a long time ago.
- 2:21:16SPEAKER_04: Oh, you you're gonna be like, I just slapped because my mother didn't understand that I just can't deal with the black woman attitude.
- 2:21:21SPEAKER_04: Wait, Dominicans aren't black?
- 2:21:23SPEAKER_04: They're black, but they're different.
- 2:21:24SPEAKER_04: But they're not black.
- 2:21:26SPEAKER_04: No, no, no, no West Indian black and Spanish black is different.
- 2:21:28SPEAKER_04: Exactly.
- 2:21:28SPEAKER_04: That's what I'm saying.
- 2:21:29SPEAKER_04: West Indian black fucking card tell you, I'm sorry.
- 2:21:31SPEAKER_04: We have the same mother and father, but we have separated and have changed a little bit along the way.
- 2:21:37SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 2:21:37SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 2:21:38SPEAKER_04: The culture, the culture is a tiny bit.
- 2:21:39SPEAKER_04: Caribbean woman cut you.
- 2:21:40SPEAKER_04: I'm sorry.
- 2:21:41SPEAKER_04: Like, you know, let me let me make this a little soundbite.
- 2:21:44SPEAKER_04: I might regret it later because I've been drinking a little too much Hennessy, but no, we're gonna nothing.
- 2:21:47SPEAKER_04: We're originally OT Magic.
- 2:21:50SPEAKER_04: Listen, listen.
- 2:21:53SPEAKER_04: And the word we're feminist.
- 2:21:56SPEAKER_04: That's hilarious.
- 2:21:58SPEAKER_05: So it's okay.
- 2:21:59SPEAKER_05: Speak on this.
- 2:22:00SPEAKER_04: Speak on this, Red.
- 2:22:01SPEAKER_04: I want to hear your soundbite.
- 2:22:03SPEAKER_04: That's crazy.
- 2:22:03SPEAKER_04: And I want to hear AG's soundbite.
- 2:22:05SPEAKER_04: Bro, you don't want to hear my soundbite?
- 2:22:06SPEAKER_04: Fuck you too.
- 2:22:07SPEAKER_04: No, no.
- 2:22:08SPEAKER_04: As long as your toes are out, we don't want to hear shit.
- 2:22:11SPEAKER_04: So I I want to hear these two uh pictures.
- 2:22:14SPEAKER_04: I want to hear AG's opinion because he's in a commit he's in a really committed relationship with a Dominican woman, and I want to hear Red's because he's well versed on the topic.
- 2:22:22SPEAKER_04: A harem.
- 2:22:22SPEAKER_04: I I don't know about your I don't know about your experiences.
- 2:22:25SPEAKER_04: So are dark-skinned Spanish women and dark-skinned obviously you do.
- 2:22:31SPEAKER_04: So the question is, are dark-skinned Spanish women and dark-skinned West Indian men women exactly the same?
- 2:22:36SPEAKER_04: Or are they different?
- 2:22:37SPEAKER_04: Hell no.
- 2:22:38SPEAKER_04: No, they're not exactly the same.
- 2:22:39SPEAKER_04: No different, but well respected or all around.
- 2:22:42SPEAKER_04: But they are different, correct?
- 2:22:43SPEAKER_04: Temper uh temperaments are uh definitely different.
- 2:22:46SPEAKER_04: Yeah, one one would stab you.
- 2:22:48SPEAKER_04: The way I like to express it, being a light-skinned that blacks like to say, hey, I'm white, but whites won't accept me, and I don't see myself as white.
- 2:22:56SPEAKER_08: I see myself as black.
- 2:22:57SPEAKER_08: That's logical.
- 2:22:58SPEAKER_04: Well, that's why I'm not gonna be like, also the rapper game logic.
- 2:23:01SPEAKER_04: That's light skinny.
- 2:23:02SPEAKER_06: That's what he has to fight against.
- 2:23:04SPEAKER_06: That's the light-skinned nigga struggle in this planet in this world.
- 2:23:06SPEAKER_06: We are too dark to be white, and we are fucking too white to be dark.
- 2:23:10SPEAKER_06: Okay, it's how's the creator.
- 2:23:11SPEAKER_06: He said that too.
- 2:23:12SPEAKER_07: Yeah, light-skinned motherfuckers are stealing all our women and shit.
- 2:23:15SPEAKER_07: Stealing who's woman?
- 2:23:16SPEAKER_07: Fucking light-skinned people.
- 2:23:17SPEAKER_04: Now I lost my train of thought.
- 2:23:19SPEAKER_07: So you were saying the temperaments are different.
- 2:23:21SPEAKER_04: The temperaments between a black Spanish and a black West Indian woman are different.
- 2:23:25SPEAKER_04: Let me explain.
- 2:23:27SPEAKER_04: When I say I can't, I I have I think, because I haven't met the West Indian woman yet, that I can live amongst the 24-7 of my life because I know I'm the more aggressive entity in my relationship.
- 2:23:42SPEAKER_04: Black West Indian women, I think my perception of how I see things in growing up as West Indian, I don't think I can handle the personality of a black West Indian woman in my household with the personality that I have to include into the relationship.
- 2:24:01SPEAKER_04: So therefore, that difference in black Hispanic women and that difference in black uh in uh West Indian women, I see that to be a temperament that I haven't found in a West Indian woman.
- 2:24:11SPEAKER_04: You'll clash too much.
- 2:24:12SPEAKER_04: Exactly.
- 2:24:13SPEAKER_04: Um facts that's not crediting or discrediting either side, it's just knowing what I have to bring to the table won't coincide well with.
- 2:24:23SPEAKER_01: Not saying we don't, you know, I don't challenge him or we don't agree on everything, but you're a woman, of course you shouldn't.
- 2:24:27SPEAKER_07: But Caribbean woman would challenge every fucking thing that comes out your fucking mouth.
- 2:24:34SPEAKER_07: My woman, right?
- 2:24:35SPEAKER_08: Um, I've said this before on the podcast.
- 2:24:36SPEAKER_08: She's as light as this table, recording a white table.
- 2:24:39SPEAKER_08: She has colored eyes.
- 2:24:40SPEAKER_08: Um, she's mistaken as Puerto Rican all the time.
- 2:24:43SPEAKER_04: Playing the violin over here.
- 2:24:44SPEAKER_08: So but do not get it mistaken.
- 2:24:47SPEAKER_08: She is still a hundred percent a Dominican woman.
- 2:24:50SPEAKER_08: She has all the characteristics.
- 2:24:52SPEAKER_08: She has characteristics.
- 2:24:55SPEAKER_08: She has everything.
- 2:24:55SPEAKER_08: I said it per even recently on purpose.
- 2:24:57SPEAKER_08: Sure.
- 2:24:58SPEAKER_08: She, yeah.
- 2:24:59SPEAKER_08: So she has the fucked up hair.
- 2:25:01SPEAKER_08: She got a permit where if she wants to.
- 2:25:03SPEAKER_08: Hey, it's not fucked up.
- 2:25:05SPEAKER_08: No, no, no, no.
- 2:25:05SPEAKER_08: I'm just talking for everybody to understand.
- 2:25:07SPEAKER_08: I don't think there's such a thing as bad hair personally.
- 2:25:08SPEAKER_08: Exactly.
- 2:25:09SPEAKER_08: Maybe you can't grow here that bad hair.
- 2:25:11SPEAKER_08: We're taught that bad hair is kinky hair.
- 2:25:13SPEAKER_08: To me, this is hair that lasts in the sun.
- 2:25:14SPEAKER_08: If the sun defeats you, you are not in a written.
- 2:25:18SPEAKER_08: You're not meant to be on the All jokes are said in jest.
- 2:25:22SPEAKER_08: She still holds that kinky.
- 2:25:23SPEAKER_08: They have an evolutionary disadvantage.
- 2:25:25SPEAKER_08: Exactly.
- 2:25:25SPEAKER_08: Disadvantage, but they don't want to see it that way, even though they're being bred out of the population.
- 2:25:28SPEAKER_08: But you know, I don't want to get into that.
- 2:25:30SPEAKER_08: So I can agree with I can agree with everything you're saying.
- 2:25:34SPEAKER_08: It's a person that you don't have to go to war with.
- 2:25:38SPEAKER_08: I got you.
- 2:25:39SPEAKER_08: You don't gotta go to war with them every day.
- 2:25:41SPEAKER_08: Because he seems like they will go to war with you every day.
- 2:25:45SPEAKER_08: It's there's a big difference between the two.
- 2:25:47SPEAKER_08: You don't want a conflict at home if you can avoid it.
- 2:25:50SPEAKER_08: I know Red deals with a lot of these women because you know Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
- 2:25:55SPEAKER_06: What do you mean a lot of these women?
- 2:25:56SPEAKER_08: A lot can be determined by anybody.
- 2:25:58SPEAKER_08: So I'm gonna just go with a lot because I'm assuming you're light-skinned, red beard, Native American.
- 2:26:02SPEAKER_08: Tattoos.
- 2:26:02SPEAKER_08: So I know he deals with a lot of these.
- 2:26:07SPEAKER_08: So he can also, you know, he he said it before in this podcast.
- 2:26:11SPEAKER_08: Dominican women, when they deal with Dominican men, they assume that everything that comes out of your mouth is a lie.
- 2:26:17SPEAKER_08: So you have to, I wouldn't say train them because I'm a feminist, we're not dogs, but you have to take documents and let them know that listen, we're not at war against each other.
- 2:26:31SPEAKER_08: We're at war against everything else.
- 2:26:33SPEAKER_08: And I think that's the most important thing.
- 2:26:36SPEAKER_08: So I agree with you with what you're saying.
- 2:26:38SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 2:26:40SPEAKER_04: So uh I I brought that up because um my girlfriend doesn't like how I guess I just kind of skipped over.
- 2:26:46SPEAKER_08: No, no, you didn't.
- 2:26:47SPEAKER_04: I'm trying to roll you in there.
- 2:26:49SPEAKER_06: Continue, right?
- 2:26:50SPEAKER_06: I was it up at the end.
- 2:26:51SPEAKER_06: I was I was waiting for y'all to finish y'all thing so I can give you my men to do for a reason.
- 2:26:55SPEAKER_06: Okay, so give give me the question again, state the question again.
- 2:26:58SPEAKER_08: I did ask you.
- 2:26:58SPEAKER_08: You did with a lot of these women and a lot of what women.
- 2:27:01SPEAKER_04: So that wasn't the question.
- 2:27:03SPEAKER_04: I brought up the questions, uh I brought up the topic being that I know that my characteristics doesn't uh won't mesh well with another West Indian person because I'm that crazy entity and I need something different in my life so we can coexist in the same household.
- 2:27:21SPEAKER_04: What are your feelings?
- 2:27:23SPEAKER_04: So now we're speaking of to Red.
- 2:27:25SPEAKER_04: What is your opinion on that?
- 2:27:29SPEAKER_04: West Indian black and Spanish black.
- 2:27:31SPEAKER_04: Are they different?
- 2:27:32SPEAKER_06: Yeah, they're different.
- 2:27:35SPEAKER_06: Culturally, um there's a there's slight differences.
- 2:27:39SPEAKER_06: Um but I just want to say that I feel that the difference between the cultures are that Latino or Latin cultures with the females, they tend they tend to cater to their men a lot more than women from the Caribbean do.
- 2:28:09SPEAKER_06: Why?
- 2:28:10SPEAKER_06: I because it's just like culture.
- 2:28:12SPEAKER_06: I'll bring it.
- 2:28:12SPEAKER_04: I'll bring it down.
- 2:28:13SPEAKER_01: Um Yo, okay, I definitely can attest to this because my mom, every single time this nigga's at my house, she has me serve him a plate, bringing this, bringing that, like damn.
- 2:28:24SPEAKER_01: I'm like, he can't get one thing for himself.
- 2:28:26SPEAKER_06: So do you love that on a regular basis?
- 2:28:29SPEAKER_06: Does my life on your own?
- 2:28:30SPEAKER_06: Do you get it?
- 2:28:30SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but not all the time.
- 2:28:33SPEAKER_01: That's the thing.
- 2:28:34SPEAKER_01: I I'd love to do it.
- 2:28:35SPEAKER_01: I'd love to do it, but not every single second.
- 2:28:37SPEAKER_01: Can I propose a question?
- 2:28:38SPEAKER_01: And see, this is this is not every single second.
- 2:28:40SPEAKER_01: I'm like, please, just because when I'm at grandpa's, I'll be in I'm independent.
- 2:28:44SPEAKER_04: When I'm like in his family's house, you gonna say what's so I'm just like, can you just get something before you propose your question?
- 2:28:53SPEAKER_04: What Carrie doesn't understand is that's a different KO show.
- 2:28:58SPEAKER_04: So the difference the difference that we don't understand is from my perspective and my household as the woman, I think you should also, like your mother says, you should attend to my my needs as necessary as possible.
- 2:29:14SPEAKER_04: Right?
- 2:29:15SPEAKER_01: So that's if I want to.
- 2:29:17SPEAKER_04: Like you just expressed in my mind.
- 2:29:18SPEAKER_01: It's not should.
- 2:29:20SPEAKER_01: That's if I want to.
- 2:29:21SPEAKER_01: Listen, I'm just saying, like, sometimes I'm just not in the mood to, you know, or something like your mother ain't teaching you nothing wrong.
- 2:29:26SPEAKER_01: No, I'm not saying it's not a good thing.
- 2:29:29SPEAKER_01: All I want to say is trying to I'm not saying it's wrong, but it's just like sometimes I may ask him, like, do you mind just getting it?
- 2:29:34SPEAKER_01: You know, like sometimes I might be like, we don't mind.
- 2:29:36SPEAKER_01: Can I appreciate you so much, man?
- 2:29:39SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
- 2:29:39SPEAKER_01: I know.
- 2:29:40SPEAKER_01: Because Arian does everything and anything I ask him.
- 2:29:44SPEAKER_07: Okay, now you realize it down while you think my question is definitely better than yours.
- 2:29:49SPEAKER_08: Unless you got the question.
- 2:29:50SPEAKER_08: Ladies first, go ahead.
- 2:29:52SPEAKER_07: Fuck you.
- 2:29:52SPEAKER_07: Throughout my life, I've dated uh Dominican black and a Caribbean woman.
- 2:29:58SPEAKER_07: And what I do see you dated?
- 2:30:00SPEAKER_07: Shout out to my nigga.
- 2:30:07SPEAKER_04: We're owned by different people, bro.
- 2:30:08SPEAKER_04: What I want to say is what I'm gonna say is know your history in your life.
- 2:30:12SPEAKER_04: Nigga, shut up!
- 2:30:13SPEAKER_07: Yes, all I'm gonna say is the Spanish woman, like, yeah, they do cater to your needs, and like with the Caribbeans, I feel like it's more like they're raised to be independent, try to be dominant.
- 2:30:25SPEAKER_07: Because even with my girl now, it's just like I'll be like, oh, can you get it?
- 2:30:28SPEAKER_07: Why can't you?
- 2:30:29SPEAKER_07: And it's like an attitude, and to me, I hate that shit.
- 2:30:32SPEAKER_07: Yeah, but why?
- 2:30:33SPEAKER_07: That's exactly what you're saying.
- 2:30:35SPEAKER_07: I hate that.
- 2:30:35SPEAKER_04: Understood.
- 2:30:36SPEAKER_07: Because now then I look at it like all I did was ask you a simple question.
- 2:30:39SPEAKER_07: You give me attitude now.
- 2:30:40SPEAKER_07: Yo, what the fuck is the problem?
- 2:30:41SPEAKER_07: Like, if you're not doing it for me, who the fuck are you doing it for?
- 2:30:44SPEAKER_07: I have a question.
- 2:30:44SPEAKER_07: That's how I look at shit.
- 2:30:45SPEAKER_04: I want to hear your question.
- 2:30:46SPEAKER_04: I'm gonna try to hold mine.
- 2:30:48SPEAKER_04: Oh, it's not for you.
- 2:30:49SPEAKER_04: So hey, yo.
- 2:30:50SPEAKER_08: How's that A Yo?
- 2:30:52SPEAKER_08: I don't know.
- 2:30:54SPEAKER_08: So if you go If you go to a barbecue KO, and your dad and your significant other who is Ace is asking you, I need a plate.
- 2:31:08SPEAKER_08: What do you do?
- 2:31:10SPEAKER_00: Okay, so first of all, this is hypothetical.
- 2:31:14SPEAKER_07: Absolutely.
- 2:31:15SPEAKER_07: Come back with two plates and then get it.
- 2:31:17SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I feel it's the same situation.
- 2:31:18SPEAKER_00: I was in it at the last podcast.
- 2:31:21SPEAKER_07: I like doing that.
- 2:31:23SPEAKER_00: I'll bring it to Ace and I'll say, Dad, get it yourself.
- 2:31:27SPEAKER_07: That's crazy.
- 2:31:28SPEAKER_07: What is your girl doing?
- 2:31:30SPEAKER_07: What is my girl doing?
- 2:31:31SPEAKER_07: And boy.
- 2:31:32SPEAKER_07: To be honest, I feel like she'll probably bring it up.
- 2:31:37SPEAKER_07: But listen, I feel like I feel like she'll bring it to her father first and then tell me something.
- 2:31:41SPEAKER_07: But in me, I can multitask and bring both.
- 2:31:44SPEAKER_07: Exactly.
- 2:31:45SPEAKER_07: That's how I look at life.
- 2:31:46SPEAKER_07: I could bring you got two hands.
- 2:31:47SPEAKER_07: Bring two plates and then go back for yourself.
- 2:31:50SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 2:31:50SPEAKER_01: No, I could do both.
- 2:31:51SPEAKER_01: Real nigga shit.
- 2:31:52SPEAKER_08: No, she can she can do both.
- 2:31:54SPEAKER_08: What did she choose?
- 2:31:55SPEAKER_06: I was over a female's house one night for supper.
- 2:31:58SPEAKER_06: She said, Daddy passed me the salt.
- 2:32:00SPEAKER_06: Her father and I both reached for it at the same time.
- 2:32:04SPEAKER_06: It was one of the most awkward situations.
- 2:32:06SPEAKER_08: Tell us how that ended though.
- 2:32:07SPEAKER_02: What is it?
- 2:32:08SPEAKER_02: What is that?
- 2:32:09SPEAKER_06: This is a true story.
- 2:32:10SPEAKER_02: I respect that.
- 2:32:13SPEAKER_02: I guess just only one of them was salty.
- 2:32:17SPEAKER_07: But I just feel like it's just the upbringing of the household.
- 2:32:20SPEAKER_07: Because even in my household, I realize even with just my parents and my.
- 2:32:26SPEAKER_04: Yes.
- 2:32:26SPEAKER_04: For myself.
- 2:32:27SPEAKER_04: Catered to me.
- 2:32:28SPEAKER_04: I understand that.
- 2:32:29SPEAKER_04: Made me feel like a king.
- 2:32:30SPEAKER_04: That yo, that also comes, that also comes with an obligation.
- 2:32:34SPEAKER_04: You hear me, Chubbs?
- 2:32:35SPEAKER_04: Like, you can say that, but what do you have to bring to the table?
- 2:32:38SPEAKER_04: Are you there and available?
- 2:32:39SPEAKER_04: Hold on.
- 2:32:40SPEAKER_04: Are you there and available for every woman in that family that you expect to cater to you?
- 2:32:44SPEAKER_04: What do you mean?
- 2:32:46SPEAKER_04: Anything they need.
- 2:32:46SPEAKER_04: They call you an emergency.
- 2:32:48SPEAKER_04: You have to be that person.
- 2:32:49SPEAKER_04: Okay, I could do that.
- 2:32:50SPEAKER_04: I could do that because you can't expect that from a group or a person if you don't have if you don't have something to bring to the table.
- 2:33:00SPEAKER_04: So I'm not gonna be, I'm not gonna be one of those men that say, oh yes, because I was born with a dick, I I think that you're supposed to cater to me.
- 2:33:07SPEAKER_04: No, I'm not sure.
- 2:33:07SPEAKER_04: It's because I'm a man and I do my position in life.
- 2:33:10SPEAKER_04: I can say your life and mine that I b I believe that you should help me out.
- 2:33:15SPEAKER_04: I definitely can attest to that.
- 2:33:17SPEAKER_04: Yeah, because he doesn't know everything.
- 2:33:20SPEAKER_07: As AG may know, because you don't deserve shit.
- 2:33:23SPEAKER_07: But yeah, AG may know, like, there's shit that I've done for a certain person I'm not naming that I can honestly say no other nigga would do.
- 2:33:32SPEAKER_07: You get what I'm saying?
- 2:33:33SPEAKER_07: Your girl will fucking kill you, you know.
- 2:33:35SPEAKER_04: But when you uh when is when it's their time for them to reciprocate that favor or that position in life, are they there for you?
- 2:33:41SPEAKER_07: To be honest, I can honestly say at times yes, at times no.
- 2:33:44SPEAKER_06: I want to um just um so can I so so so as far as you know you know bringing this full circle, um when you asked the question about the differences or whatever between the cultures of social or whatever, and I said that I think it boils.
- 2:34:00SPEAKER_06: Down to the whole catering thing.
- 2:34:04SPEAKER_06: The mindset behind that, as you know, uh Sir Chubbs indicated with a as he indicated with the West Indian or Caribbean women, that they're more, you know, uh dominant or they try to be more dominant.
- 2:34:20SPEAKER_06: And I can definitely agree with that because my experiences with the it's like they just want a nigga with no fucking personality who's gonna do whatever the fuck they want to do.
- 2:34:34SPEAKER_06: And and that's why, and that's why when you see a lot of these bad chicks, they're with these fucking cornball safari ass niggas.
- 2:34:40SPEAKER_06: Because they're not gonna be like, Nicki Minaj's trendy.
- 2:34:48SPEAKER_06: And she got herself a cornball ass one.
- 2:34:51SPEAKER_06: And that's not me.
- 2:34:52SPEAKER_04: Strong West Indian women, they need bitch boys, and I'm not the bitch boy for them.
- 2:34:57SPEAKER_04: Like, and now I'm the king of him for a specific reason because I believe that I'm supposed to protect and I'm supposed to uphold a certain stature.
- 2:35:06SPEAKER_04: I'm the fucking choose to be a man with a line.
- 2:35:09SPEAKER_08: Did you choose to be a man?
- 2:35:10SPEAKER_04: Yes, I did.
- 2:35:11SPEAKER_04: When I was born as a man, I was chosen to be a man.
- 2:35:13SPEAKER_04: No, but did you personally choose?
- 2:35:14SPEAKER_04: I don't have any choices in life.
- 2:35:15SPEAKER_04: I was given that choice.
- 2:35:16SPEAKER_08: That's the argument I have with women all the time.
- 2:35:18SPEAKER_08: I did not choose to be put in the place of them in, but I've been indoctrinated.
- 2:35:22SPEAKER_08: Exactly.
- 2:35:23SPEAKER_04: I'm given what I was given to be who I am.
- 2:35:25SPEAKER_08: For a fucking reason.
- 2:35:27SPEAKER_08: Okay, I just want to bring in our final topic for the evening.
- 2:35:31SPEAKER_08: Original man that speech.
- 2:35:32SPEAKER_08: You know, I gotta be an original original thing.
- 2:35:35SPEAKER_08: Let's go feminist.
- 2:35:36SPEAKER_08: I don't um identify as anything else besides original.
- 2:35:38SPEAKER_08: If you come with me with that Black Lives Matter shit, original lives have always mattered, you know?
- 2:35:43SPEAKER_08: Indigenous lives.
- 2:35:44SPEAKER_08: Let's go feminist.
- 2:35:45SPEAKER_08: Nigga, put me in the back like that.
- 2:35:47SPEAKER_08: That shit was mad hard.
- 2:35:48SPEAKER_08: Nigga, damn.
- 2:35:48SPEAKER_08: Let's go feminist.
- 2:35:50SPEAKER_08: Oh yeah, nigga, damn.
- 2:35:51SPEAKER_08: So Zap came up with a topic that I'm probably gonna just take over.
- 2:35:56SPEAKER_08: And it's if parents aren't married, should they get the father's or mother's last name?
- 2:36:02SPEAKER_08: We touched on this a few, maybe a podcast ago.
- 2:36:05SPEAKER_08: Touched on this about the whole uh, you know, and I think it just rolls in with this topic perfectly.
- 2:36:11SPEAKER_08: And the whole last name thing, there's a lot of things that come involved, like, is it easier just to have one?
- 2:36:17SPEAKER_08: Is it, you know, two?
- 2:36:18SPEAKER_08: But I just want to speak from my personal standpoint.
- 2:36:21SPEAKER_08: From the original usage before you can predate religion, the whole last name thing, like, why is there people named Jack Son?
- 2:36:28SPEAKER_08: Because they were the son of Jack.
- 2:36:30SPEAKER_08: That's how this shit works.
- 2:36:31SPEAKER_08: Is that really where that comes from?
- 2:36:32SPEAKER_08: Absolutely.
- 2:36:32SPEAKER_08: Jackson, Parkinson, all of these, it's the son of a something.
- 2:36:36SPEAKER_08: It's the son of a bitch, man.
- 2:36:38SPEAKER_08: Son of a bitch.
- 2:36:40SPEAKER_08: So it's the son of a person, and it's usually in almost in all cases the man because women could not own property.
- 2:36:46SPEAKER_08: So it goes to the man.
- 2:36:47SPEAKER_08: The first son has more property ownage, more business ownage than the mother or the wife in the relationship.
- 2:36:55SPEAKER_08: In most religions.
- 2:36:56SPEAKER_08: And that's just how it works through society.
- 2:36:58SPEAKER_08: And if you even remove the religion part, women don't earn as much as men, which is fucked up.
- 2:37:04SPEAKER_08: But the s the first male in the family is more important than even his own mother.
- 2:37:09SPEAKER_07: That's the feminist speaking in them.
- 2:37:10SPEAKER_08: And and no feminist speaking in them, it's the realist.
- 2:37:13SPEAKER_08: It's just facts.
- 2:37:13SPEAKER_08: It's facts.
- 2:37:14SPEAKER_08: Realism.
- 2:37:16SPEAKER_08: I'm just I'm just saying.
- 2:37:17SPEAKER_08: He's relaying the history.
- 2:37:18SPEAKER_08: He's relaying the history of anything.
- 2:37:21SPEAKER_08: So now we are in modern times, and I just want to repeat the question one more time for the Modern American Times.
- 2:37:26SPEAKER_08: Okay, modern American times.
- 2:37:27SPEAKER_08: Western uh should, if they aren't married, which I have already a problem with, should they get the f father or mother's last name?
- 2:37:36SPEAKER_08: Sound off.
- 2:37:38SPEAKER_04: Um I don't I don't mind speaking on that first if you don't mind.
- 2:37:40SPEAKER_04: Um I I I guess it just depends on the relationship of the parents and the uh the children.
- 2:37:48SPEAKER_05: I think it's going to the dad.
- 2:37:50SPEAKER_07: I put it like this, because I've lived in a household where this happened, and my father broke it down to me very clear.
- 2:38:00SPEAKER_07: If it's a a boy, at the end of the day, it should take on the father's last name because it's carrying it on his legacy.
- 2:38:07SPEAKER_07: If it's a girl, then it's up a debate between the two parents of what they want to do.
- 2:38:12SPEAKER_06: Because she's most likely gonna take somebody's last name in the future anyway.
- 2:38:16SPEAKER_07: Exactly.
- 2:38:16SPEAKER_07: You get what I'm saying?
- 2:38:17SPEAKER_07: At the end of the day, it shouldn't be because it's like you can have it.
- 2:38:20SPEAKER_07: No, because it's like this no matter how you put it, if we're not married and you're carrying your last name, because right now my mother carries both her name and my father's last name.
- 2:38:30SPEAKER_07: So it's like, but that's only off the strength that she had my brother before my father, so that's why he carries her name.
- 2:38:37SPEAKER_07: You know what I'm saying?
- 2:38:38SPEAKER_07: So in a situation like this, it's like if I have a son and me and my girl not married, now it takes her last name, my legacy dies there.
- 2:38:48SPEAKER_07: If I have a daughter.
- 2:38:50SPEAKER_04: So do you agree with that or do you disagree with that?
- 2:38:51SPEAKER_04: What do you mean?
- 2:38:52SPEAKER_04: Do you agree with your legacy dying because you're not there, or you d believe that you should be the last name because your bloodline, your lineage is involved in the ball.
- 2:39:01SPEAKER_07: That's what I'm saying.
- 2:39:02SPEAKER_07: If the son should automatically take my name because my bloodline is not a big deal.
- 2:39:05SPEAKER_04: Only if it's a male, so only if it's a female is the male.
- 2:39:07SPEAKER_04: I mean, women too.
- 2:39:08SPEAKER_07: If it's a female, we get called because it's like if she takes my last name and gets married, her last name is switching.
- 2:39:13SPEAKER_07: If she takes the the mother's last name and get married, it's not a good thing.
- 2:39:17SPEAKER_07: I see it like this.
- 2:39:18SPEAKER_07: Just like dual citizenship between countries.
- 2:39:20SPEAKER_04: Kardashian's already established names, so you don't want to eliminate that.
- 2:39:23SPEAKER_08: Talk into the mic, bruh.
- 2:39:24SPEAKER_08: That's right.
- 2:39:25SPEAKER_08: No, no, no.
- 2:39:29SPEAKER_06: I made the point that Kardashian is a brand, so she doesn't want to eliminate that and be Kim West.
- 2:39:35SPEAKER_06: Like it doesn't, you know, it doesn't act.
- 2:39:37SPEAKER_06: It takes away from her from her profitability.
- 2:39:39SPEAKER_06: So she has so she's doing, you know, what makes sense business wise.
- 2:39:44SPEAKER_06: And as if I was Kanye, I really couldn't be upset at that.
- 2:39:48SPEAKER_01: Which is why I feel like they should have given them their last names, their kids.
- 2:39:52SPEAKER_01: So the kids, like Kim's kids or Courtney's kids, like because you know they have the the name, the father's last name instead of their last name and their last name is bigger than the father's.
- 2:40:02SPEAKER_01: Well, we'll with Kanye West is a little different, but with Scott.
- 2:40:04SPEAKER_06: But but you know what it is, it's like or which way Tristan the kids and But you're not it doesn't matter if you're married because you're not legally bound to do that.
- 2:40:13SPEAKER_08: There's still a Kylie Jenner.
- 2:40:14SPEAKER_08: Well, it's Bruce Jenner?
- 2:40:18SPEAKER_06: Next.
- 2:40:20SPEAKER_06: Um, but but that yeah, that's that's in that aspect, uh Zap, that's why.
- 2:40:24SPEAKER_08: Okay, so I want to speak specifically from my point of view.
- 2:40:29SPEAKER_08: I I understand what uh Chubbs is saying about the women because I also h you know have the same opinion that when you have a daughter, she's going to be named after the family that has, you know, chosen to be in a relationship with her.
- 2:40:46SPEAKER_08: And we can't marriage.
- 2:40:48SPEAKER_08: Yeah, marriage, exactly.
- 2:40:49SPEAKER_08: We can't dictate like who am I to be another man to tell another man, hey, this is my daughter, and she has to carry my last name.
- 2:40:57SPEAKER_08: We just under a social contract.
- 2:41:00SPEAKER_06: Did you did did you watch that movie You, Me, and Dupree?
- 2:41:03SPEAKER_08: I've heard of it, but I've said Old Ass Moment.
- 2:41:05SPEAKER_08: It's um what's this guy's name?
- 2:41:06SPEAKER_08: Owen Wilson.
- 2:41:08SPEAKER_08: I've definitely seen it, but I can't think Richard Gere.
- 2:41:11SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I can't tell you what the plot was.
- 2:41:13SPEAKER_06: But there's a part in it in the uh movie where, you know, I forgot the guy's name who played um.
- 2:41:20SPEAKER_06: It don't matter where anyway, but he worked for her father's company.
- 2:41:25SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 2:41:26SPEAKER_06: And he proposed to her.
- 2:41:27SPEAKER_06: She said, Yes.
- 2:41:28SPEAKER_06: The father approached him, said, Yeah, well, do you think of hyphenating your last name?
- 2:41:32SPEAKER_06: Yeah, like and that's why like And that's what he says, because my legacy dies out with her, so I want something to eat.
- 2:41:38SPEAKER_06: So that's what I'm saying.
- 2:41:39SPEAKER_01: Some men are doing that too.
- 2:41:40SPEAKER_01: They're adding their wives' last name to it.
- 2:41:42SPEAKER_08: And I'll be real with you, I think those men are cucks.
- 2:41:44SPEAKER_08: They're cucks.
- 2:41:45SPEAKER_08: And uh you haven't been on this podcast in a while.
- 2:41:46SPEAKER_08: Cuck is a man that allows another man to have sex with his wife while he's in a room and enjoys it.
- 2:41:52SPEAKER_08: I think those men are cucks, and that's how I look at it because Yeah, that's the most disrespectful thing.
- 2:41:57SPEAKER_08: I'd rather be called a faggot than a cuck.
- 2:41:59SPEAKER_08: I don't think so.
- 2:42:00SPEAKER_01: Because I think it's just they just I think it's just uh a lot of respect for the wife.
- 2:42:05SPEAKER_01: It's to me it's in terms of so they don't have to choose, because that's the thing.
- 2:42:09SPEAKER_01: Like, let's say if a woman keeps her last name after they're married, after they're married, but then the child you have to decide what their last name is gonna be.
- 2:42:16SPEAKER_01: But if everybody has everybody's last name, you have to deal with that problem.
- 2:42:20SPEAKER_08: I have my mother's last name, but on paper, my name is a Jammu last name.
- 2:42:25SPEAKER_08: It's not a Jammu mother's last name, father's last name.
- 2:42:28SPEAKER_08: There's no hyphen.
- 2:42:29SPEAKER_08: My full name has my mother's name in it.
- 2:42:31SPEAKER_08: There's no disrespect there at all.
- 2:42:32SPEAKER_08: But at the end of the day, I'm carrying my father's legacy.
- 2:42:36SPEAKER_08: At the end of the day, if I achieve the greatest of grace, or I go out and kill one million people and I have the negative record, the last name is my mother's last name.
- 2:42:45SPEAKER_08: The last name is my legacy's last name.
- 2:42:48SPEAKER_08: My full name is a different thing.
- 2:42:50SPEAKER_08: So when you hyphen the last name, you're giving that father's legacy, which is not yours.
- 2:42:55SPEAKER_08: That's not my father.
- 2:42:56SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 2:42:57SPEAKER_08: That's giving his father another outlet.
- 2:42:59SPEAKER_08: Hey, he didn't have no sons.
- 2:43:00SPEAKER_08: That's on him.
- 2:43:01SPEAKER_08: In the Catholic Church, there's a guy named King Henry, right?
- 2:43:05SPEAKER_08: He had so many wives because he was trying to have a son.
- 2:43:07SPEAKER_08: He's killed many wives because they couldn't give him boards.
- 2:43:09SPEAKER_08: Henry VIII?
- 2:43:10SPEAKER_08: Henry VIII, exactly.
- 2:43:11SPEAKER_08: Before they knew that it was the men that's exactly.
- 2:43:13SPEAKER_08: He needed a son.
- 2:43:14SPEAKER_08: You know what he did?
- 2:43:15SPEAKER_08: He made he made divorce legal.
- 2:43:17SPEAKER_08: He made his own fucking religion just because he wanted to divorce his wife, because he couldn't kill this one, because he killed all the rest of them, and this one was important.
- 2:43:25SPEAKER_08: He couldn't kill her.
- 2:43:25SPEAKER_08: You know what?
- 2:43:26SPEAKER_08: I'm gonna divorce her because she can't give me a son.
- 2:43:28SPEAKER_08: And he made divorce legal just so he can have a boy.
- 2:43:30SPEAKER_08: That's how important he's the last name shit is.
- 2:43:34SPEAKER_04: And he's also the case study to make us understand where we realize that um men are the ones that uh decide gender pregnancy.
- 2:43:42SPEAKER_08: And that's it.
- 2:43:43SPEAKER_08: So I just want to go just bring this whole topic full circle.
- 2:43:46SPEAKER_08: I'm not shitting on women.
- 2:43:48SPEAKER_08: I don't think women don't hold value.
- 2:43:50SPEAKER_08: Well, you can't do that.
- 2:43:50SPEAKER_08: You're a feminist, you can't shit on women.
- 2:43:53SPEAKER_01: Your point was that you're sort of like degrading the man for taking the wife's last name.
- 2:43:56SPEAKER_01: But why can't they just why can't they just respect their wives?
- 2:44:00SPEAKER_01: Why can't they just respect their wives so much that they want everybody to come on?
- 2:44:05SPEAKER_01: Everybody's last name, including the children.
- 2:44:07SPEAKER_01: Excuse me.
- 2:44:07SPEAKER_04: What's Kanye's last name?
- 2:44:08SPEAKER_04: West, as we know.
- 2:44:09SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 2:44:09SPEAKER_08: He married a Kardashian, right?
- 2:44:11SPEAKER_08: Uh-huh.
- 2:44:11SPEAKER_08: Which is you can make it the argument that name is really big.
- 2:44:13SPEAKER_08: It's almost as big as Wes.
- 2:44:15SPEAKER_08: But what is his last name?
- 2:44:16SPEAKER_04: What is his last name?
- 2:44:17SPEAKER_08: West, yeah, because he didn't change it.
- 2:44:19SPEAKER_08: I think, like he said, if it wasn't a business point as a real man, the name should have been Kim Kardashian West.
- 2:44:27SPEAKER_08: No hyphen.
- 2:44:28SPEAKER_08: What's her name now?
- 2:44:29SPEAKER_08: Still Kardashian.
- 2:44:29SPEAKER_08: Kim Kardashian West.
- 2:44:30SPEAKER_08: There's a hyphen.
- 2:44:31SPEAKER_08: Without the hyphen, it just leads at the end of the day.
- 2:44:33SPEAKER_08: When she accomplishes what she accomplishes, she can run for president in the next 20 years.
- 2:44:38SPEAKER_08: She has to run as Kim Kardashian West.
- 2:44:40SPEAKER_08: It's not Kim West.
- 2:44:41SPEAKER_08: And his lineage is now hyphenate with the Kardashians.
- 2:44:45SPEAKER_08: What if the Kardashians, we figure out 10 years down the line that these people were part of the Armenian genocide and they killed a million people?
- 2:44:50SPEAKER_08: His name is connected to that.
- 2:44:52SPEAKER_08: It's not just West.
- 2:44:53SPEAKER_08: And that's just food for thought, you know?
- 2:44:54SPEAKER_08: And that's just my opinion on it.
- 2:44:56SPEAKER_08: I could drop the mic, but I'm not, because these shits are expensive.
- 2:44:58SPEAKER_08: I'm gonna just let you know.
- 2:44:59SPEAKER_08: Yeah, you're not that.
- 2:45:00SPEAKER_07: I want to hear y'all'll opinions too.
- 2:45:02SPEAKER_07: Two dented mics and one name.
- 2:45:04SPEAKER_08: Red looked like he got a lot of shit to say.
- 2:45:06SPEAKER_06: Speaking of someone who has two last names, I always say to people, if you're gonna if you're gonna if you're going to give your children or your child two last names, don't do not give them a middle name.
- 2:45:25SPEAKER_06: Like having four names is annoying as fuck.
- 2:45:28SPEAKER_06: I got that.
- 2:45:29SPEAKER_06: And I understand, you know, the love behind it and the whole whatever, but you know, a lot of the times I I don't think that I don't think that our parents necessarily have our, you know, um convenience, interests or whatever at heart or whatever.
- 2:45:47SPEAKER_06: It's like, okay, I want to name you this because it's me.
- 2:45:50SPEAKER_06: You know what I'm saying?
- 2:45:51SPEAKER_06: Versus, you know, this is just what it is.
- 2:45:55SPEAKER_06: And I also agree with the fact that it does depend on the parents' relationship.
- 2:46:02SPEAKER_06: Because if the dad is a deadbeat or a no, you know, uh you don't know who the father or whatever, hey, obviously it's gonna take the mother's or the father's, yeah, like I said, deadbeat just, you know, not nothing to do with the kid or whatever the case, then hey, listen, then it takes the mother's last night.
- 2:46:17SPEAKER_08: Can I ask your question?
- 2:46:17SPEAKER_08: What if the father's a deadbeat, but he's an NBA player?
- 2:46:21SPEAKER_08: His name is O'Neill.
- 2:46:23SPEAKER_08: He don't exist.
- 2:46:24SPEAKER_06: That's that's a that's more of a personal thing, like you know what I'm saying?
- 2:46:27SPEAKER_06: I I don't know.
- 2:46:28SPEAKER_04: I would say he doesn't exist if he has no if the child has no aspirations.
- 2:46:31SPEAKER_04: You know, Jalen Row athlete.
- 2:46:34SPEAKER_08: Yeah Jalen Rowe's dad was a number one pick in the NBA.
- 2:46:38SPEAKER_08: His dad never acknowledged that.
- 2:46:41SPEAKER_06: Okay.
- 2:46:41SPEAKER_06: That's what I'm saying.
- 2:46:42SPEAKER_06: Um, but I I I say, you know, like I said, you not think that having two last um goes back to like I said, the relationship or whatever.
- 2:46:52SPEAKER_06: If you're married, the father's last name.
- 2:46:55SPEAKER_06: Like, that's like that's that to me.
- 2:46:58SPEAKER_06: This is this is who you chose.
- 2:46:59SPEAKER_06: Why is that?
- 2:47:00SPEAKER_06: This is who you chose to be as your husband.
- 2:47:02SPEAKER_06: This is the last name that you're deciding to take.
- 2:47:06SPEAKER_06: Your kids take the last name.
- 2:47:08SPEAKER_08: Like for better or for worse.
- 2:47:10SPEAKER_06: Back in the day when marriage first, or whatever the case was like, all like before all that, the caveman used to go, grab the chick, beat over the head with the motherfucking stick, drag her back to the cave, and then that was that.
- 2:47:22SPEAKER_06: Like, that was his property.
- 2:47:23SPEAKER_06: Like that would the I don't want to use it as property, but that was his wife.
- 2:47:28SPEAKER_06: That's the last name.
- 2:47:29SPEAKER_08: It was a dowry.
- 2:47:30SPEAKER_06: Like, that was it.
- 2:47:30SPEAKER_06: It was man shit.
- 2:47:32SPEAKER_06: Original man shit.
- 2:47:33SPEAKER_06: You took the fucking last name, and that's that.
- 2:47:35SPEAKER_04: Since we're bringing it back to the the the the um the age of the caveman, um, the reason why we kind of add our last name of the man to the child is the lineage, but it's also because of a religion, uh religion basis.
- 2:47:50SPEAKER_04: Because there's a certain uh religions that we've strayed away from amongst the two thousand years of our existence that your last name depends on how many men in your family still are alive.
- 2:48:04SPEAKER_04: So if you have if you have six uncles, your father and a cousin that's older than you alive, your name is as long as you carry their names as well in your last name.
- 2:48:15SPEAKER_04: So your last name is more like a it's supposed to be back in the biblical days, a record of where you're from.
- 2:48:23SPEAKER_04: Not just who your father is, but where your entire existence traces back to.
- 2:48:29SPEAKER_04: So that was our ver that yeah, exactly.
- 2:48:31SPEAKER_04: That was our verbal um genetic way of uh that was our verbal way of tracing who you come from genetically.
- 2:48:39SPEAKER_08: Not to paperwork.
- 2:48:40SPEAKER_04: Not to go on a f the irony of that scientifically, even though we give the man the name of that genetic background, the woman holds the genetic code, like we spoke about before.
- 2:48:51SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 2:48:51SPEAKER_04: So that's the irony of that.
- 2:48:52SPEAKER_08: Not to go on a fictional role, but what you said about Jalen Rose, look how important the name, a name is really important when you like go on to things because you can get stuff something off your name.
- 2:49:02SPEAKER_08: Look at the movie Creed.
- 2:49:04SPEAKER_08: Like he got all that boxing glory because of the fact that his last name was Creed.
- 2:49:10SPEAKER_08: So I like me personally, like I guess the female thing, it doesn't matter because it's just gonna get replaced regardless.
- 2:49:17SPEAKER_08: But if w whether it's marriage or not, for a male, it's really important to carry on the lineage lineage because you never know where that name could be.
- 2:49:26SPEAKER_08: Okay, you come from a household that your parents weren't married.
- 2:49:28SPEAKER_08: Right.
- 2:49:29SPEAKER_08: Uh no, my parents were married.
- 2:49:30SPEAKER_08: Oh, okay.
- 2:49:30SPEAKER_08: So they were married, okay.
- 2:49:32SPEAKER_08: And but they have me before they were married.
- 2:49:34SPEAKER_08: Okay, they had you before you were married.
- 2:49:35SPEAKER_08: I think that's most of the things.
- 2:49:36SPEAKER_08: AKA out of wedlock is what they say.
- 2:49:38SPEAKER_08: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 2:49:38SPEAKER_08: And um you as most of us, you have whose last name?
- 2:49:41SPEAKER_08: Bastards.
- 2:49:42SPEAKER_08: My dad's last name.
- 2:49:42SPEAKER_08: Okay, do all your siblings have your dad's last name?
- 2:49:45SPEAKER_08: I have my siblings to me don't have the same father.
- 2:49:47SPEAKER_08: Okay, but do they all have their father's last name?
- 2:49:49SPEAKER_08: Yes.
- 2:49:49SPEAKER_08: And do you think that's by mistake?
- 2:49:51SPEAKER_08: No.
- 2:49:52SPEAKER_08: No, it's a f there's a reason for that.
- 2:49:54SPEAKER_08: So you you proposed a question.
- 2:49:56SPEAKER_08: No, okay.
- 2:49:57SPEAKER_08: And you said that if they aren't married, should they have the last name of the father?
- 2:50:01SPEAKER_08: How do you feel?
- 2:50:02SPEAKER_08: That's what I'm saying.
- 2:50:03SPEAKER_08: I feel like regardless of whatever, just to pass on the lineage, they should have the father's last name.
- 2:50:07SPEAKER_08: So you're in agreement with the room.
- 2:50:10SPEAKER_08: Okay, and I think that's 110% fair.
- 2:50:13SPEAKER_08: And I really enjoyed the questionnaire you prepared for us today.
- 2:50:16SPEAKER_08: It was uh it was enjoyable.
- 2:50:18SPEAKER_08: I think uh this nigga has something to say.
- 2:50:20SPEAKER_08: What do you have to say, nigga?
- 2:50:22SPEAKER_06: Nigger Darius, guys.
- 2:50:27SPEAKER_07: Thank you, sir.
- 2:50:28SPEAKER_07: I finally, you know, got a mic.
- 2:50:30SPEAKER_07: But go ahead, nigger Darius.
- 2:50:35SPEAKER_07: Wait, wait, wait.
- 2:50:36SPEAKER_07: We're not doing this nigga Darius shit.
- 2:50:38SPEAKER_07: Alright?
- 2:50:38SPEAKER_07: Well, your white friends can do a black man?
- 2:50:40SPEAKER_07: Nigger chubs, okay?
- 2:50:41SPEAKER_07: Nigger chubs.
- 2:50:41SPEAKER_07: Nigger chubs.
- 2:50:42SPEAKER_07: But I agree with you, like what's your last name?
- 2:50:46SPEAKER_08: You have both?
- 2:50:46SPEAKER_07: No, I have I have just my father's.
- 2:50:48SPEAKER_08: Okay.
- 2:50:51SPEAKER_07: I have my father's last name, but like I said, I I've grew up in a household where I've seen everything.
- 2:50:57SPEAKER_07: But where Ace was saying about your uncles and this and third, that's hard because like a situation like me, I don't have a last name like anybody.
- 2:51:11SPEAKER_07: Like everybody throughout my whole my uncles, all that all have different last names.
- 2:51:16SPEAKER_08: Your dad's brother has the last name of his.
- 2:51:19SPEAKER_07: I don't know, no, like okay, throughout my mom's father's side.
- 2:51:23SPEAKER_07: Throughout my father's side, I think there's only my father and maybe two other people that have.
- 2:51:28SPEAKER_08: So they took the last name of the mothers.
- 2:51:31SPEAKER_07: No, I think the I think it was a different father.
- 2:51:33SPEAKER_07: Okay, okay, cool.
- 2:51:34SPEAKER_07: Because just like just like my brother, my brother has my mother's last name, but there's only one person on my mother's side that has that last name, and it's my uncle.
- 2:51:45SPEAKER_07: Everybody else is.
- 2:51:48SPEAKER_08: Okay, I'm gonna pose the question.
- 2:51:50SPEAKER_08: Last names, last names provide somewhat of a importance.
- 2:51:56SPEAKER_08: You go from Darius Prescott Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
- 2:52:01SPEAKER_08: Look, I'm asking the question.
- 2:52:02SPEAKER_08: Hold on, hold on.
- 2:52:03SPEAKER_08: Okay, okay, you go from Frank Baker nigga say this fucking fuck.
- 2:52:08SPEAKER_08: I said my name in the progress.
- 2:52:10SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
- 2:52:11SPEAKER_05: Regardless of whatever, you go from Frank Washington to Frank Trump, now it's a whole different conversation to who you're related to.
- 2:52:18SPEAKER_07: Not necessarily.
- 2:52:20SPEAKER_07: Not necessarily what necessarily because okay, in my in my family situation, my brother had the same last name with the.
- 2:52:31SPEAKER_07: Names come with a responsibility.
- 2:52:32SPEAKER_07: Everybody else has a different name.
- 2:52:35SPEAKER_07: But when, like, especially in the Caribbean, if you look up my uncle, everybody starts popping up just because my grandmother that everybody started carrying her name.
- 2:52:43SPEAKER_04: My weird ass belief is names have a long-lasting connotation.
- 2:52:47SPEAKER_04: You name a child something, that's gonna be that.
- 2:52:50SPEAKER_04: Frank.
- 2:52:51SPEAKER_04: Frank Trump is different than Frank West.
- 2:52:54SPEAKER_04: I think that is that's the vibration that you're giving them.
- 2:52:57SPEAKER_04: That is the person that you're gonna do.
- 2:52:58SPEAKER_08: My name means he who succeeds in battle.
- 2:53:02SPEAKER_04: So, exactly my point.
- 2:53:03SPEAKER_04: My name means fearless warrior.
- 2:53:05SPEAKER_04: So that's why he went to the name.
- 2:53:05SPEAKER_07: My name means the king of Persia.
- 2:53:07SPEAKER_04: I'm a fearless warrior, but at the same time, it's just a um, it's just my father blending my father's name and my mother's first name together.
- 2:53:15SPEAKER_04: But in the end, it does make who I am.
- 2:53:18SPEAKER_07: So you technically have both names.
- 2:53:20SPEAKER_04: I technically have both names, but but them compiling their names together still means fearless warrior.
- 2:53:26SPEAKER_04: In the end.
- 2:53:27SPEAKER_04: That's some shit.
- 2:53:28SPEAKER_04: So that's what I'm saying.
- 2:53:28SPEAKER_04: I believe in names meaning uh you're branding who you're bringing into this world as to who they're gonna be.
- 2:53:34SPEAKER_08: I got one last question for the panel.
- 2:53:36SPEAKER_08: Darren's just the white guy now.
- 2:53:37SPEAKER_08: And we're gonna walk out with this.
- 2:53:38SPEAKER_06: Your mother wanted you to have a job.
- 2:53:40SPEAKER_08: That was awesome.
- 2:53:40SPEAKER_08: Absolutely.
- 2:53:41SPEAKER_08: My parents didn't want me to work nowhere but the plantation.
- 2:53:43SPEAKER_08: You know what I'm saying?
- 2:53:44SPEAKER_06: Like, he just he just said the whitest fucking name that you can fucking think of.
- 2:53:49SPEAKER_06: And on paper, that's a fucking Caucasian name.
- 2:53:55SPEAKER_08: So let me ask the panel this question.
- 2:53:56SPEAKER_08: You can do anything Caucasian on the phone.
- 2:53:59SPEAKER_06: Whiter than a mayonnaise sandwich.
- 2:54:01SPEAKER_08: I just want to know how does everybody feel about having a child out of wedlock with a person you do not see yourself marrying.
- 2:54:11SPEAKER_07: It's a fucked up situation.
- 2:54:12SPEAKER_07: A real fucked up situation.
- 2:54:14SPEAKER_04: Things happen in the heat of the moment.
- 2:54:16SPEAKER_04: Exactly.
- 2:54:17SPEAKER_04: You can't judge everybody for everything.
- 2:54:19SPEAKER_04: Not judge nobody.
- 2:54:20SPEAKER_07: No, I would say I would agree with Ace because there's times where, you know, it's like in that spur of the moment, you know, y'all happy, you shoot the club up, boom.
- 2:54:30SPEAKER_07: And then it's like the kid comes.
- 2:54:33SPEAKER_07: Shoot the club up a fucking problem.
- 2:54:37SPEAKER_06: Like shine.
- 2:54:37SPEAKER_06: When you become Jamal Shine Barrows out this motherfucker.
- 2:54:41SPEAKER_04: I'm kind of a firm believer in understanding your position in life.
- 2:54:44SPEAKER_04: And if you know you're that type of nigga, you can't let a strong woman be on top.
- 2:54:49SPEAKER_04: At certain points in the relationship.
- 2:54:53SPEAKER_07: And in the moment, that shit's just so good.
- 2:54:55SPEAKER_04: Don't let her be on top.
- 2:54:57SPEAKER_08: He was saying his pullout game is weak.
- 2:54:59SPEAKER_08: That's what he's saying.
- 2:54:59SPEAKER_08: Nah, I'm just saying that the time where y'all can't get away.
- 2:55:01SPEAKER_07: Weaker than Derek Rose's knees.
- 2:55:04SPEAKER_04: Don't put her on top.
- 2:55:05SPEAKER_04: God bless Derek.
- 2:55:06SPEAKER_07: Don't put her on top.
- 2:55:07SPEAKER_04: If you know you're drunk and incapacitated of some level, don't leave her in control of your dick.
- 2:55:13SPEAKER_07: No woman is ever in control of my dick.
- 2:55:17SPEAKER_08: Lie.
- 2:55:18SPEAKER_08: KOSHO, I think she has something to say.
- 2:55:20SPEAKER_07: You just say fuck it.
- 2:55:21SPEAKER_07: I'm lit.
- 2:55:22SPEAKER_08: Kids, I'm not pulling out.
- 2:55:23SPEAKER_06: No, fuck that.
- 2:55:24SPEAKER_06: Your pull-out game is weaker than iPod charge um iPhone charges, nigga.
- 2:55:29SPEAKER_07: Weaker than iPhone charges?
- 2:55:31SPEAKER_07: Pretty weak.
- 2:55:31SPEAKER_07: That's crazy.
- 2:55:32SPEAKER_07: That is weak, because iPhone charges barely fucking pull out.
- 2:55:35SPEAKER_07: No, that's not the point you're making.
- 2:55:36SPEAKER_07: But all right.
- 2:55:36SPEAKER_07: So KOSHO, okay?
- 2:55:38SPEAKER_08: Let's let's rap.
- 2:55:39SPEAKER_01: So, okay.
- 2:55:40SPEAKER_01: So having kids out of some people just don't want to be married though, period.
- 2:55:45SPEAKER_08: As a, you know, uh a construct, a social construct, or yeah, just don't.
- 2:55:49SPEAKER_01: Because like I know people who've been together for a really long time, but have never been.
- 2:55:53SPEAKER_01: I feel like they're scared.
- 2:55:54SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's a lot.
- 2:55:55SPEAKER_01: It's just a lot of people.
- 2:55:56SPEAKER_07: It's scared of putting that title and everything going down here.
- 2:56:01SPEAKER_01: Just because it's easier to separate it's easier to se doesn't mean you don't love them, but just in case anything happens, it's easier to separate from a person when you're not married.
- 2:56:08SPEAKER_04: When you're married, um I think I have the exact opposite argument.
- 2:56:12SPEAKER_04: I'm a Christian though, so I don't know.
- 2:56:13SPEAKER_01: It's easier to separate when you're not.
- 2:56:15SPEAKER_01: It is.
- 2:56:16SPEAKER_01: No, but I'm saying I'm saying just from a legal standpoint and in terms of assets.
- 2:56:21SPEAKER_07: Go ahead, light skin.
- 2:56:24SPEAKER_04: First come, first serve.
- 2:56:25SPEAKER_04: Go ahead.
- 2:56:27SPEAKER_04: So first come, first serve, regular first.
- 2:56:30SPEAKER_04: It is way easier to separate when divorced because after that it's just the signing of a piece of paper.
- 2:56:36SPEAKER_04: Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
- 2:56:38SPEAKER_01: It's not always a prenup.
- 2:56:41SPEAKER_01: Speak to judges to them what the problems are.
- 2:56:45SPEAKER_01: It doesn't matter you can't.
- 2:56:46SPEAKER_07: If she signed a prenup is just a single chat, especially if you have kids.
- 2:56:49SPEAKER_08: For me as a Christian male, it's totally matrimony.
- 2:56:52SPEAKER_08: If I cheat while I'm married, to me, that is a cardinal sin.
- 2:56:56SPEAKER_08: That's something that you know I can't, you know, it's like there's no argument around that.
- 2:57:01SPEAKER_08: No, there isn't.
- 2:57:01SPEAKER_08: Because I chose this woman as the person I'm gonna submit myself to.
- 2:57:05SPEAKER_08: Right.
- 2:57:05SPEAKER_08: But that's also something I definitely want to do.
- 2:57:07SPEAKER_04: If you marry someone to cheat, a marriage is definitely a different level of relationship.
- 2:57:13SPEAKER_04: Christian aside, it's just when you look at that girl has that security.
- 2:57:18SPEAKER_07: What if it's a situation where like you're just pissy drunk and somebody takes advantage?
- 2:57:23SPEAKER_07: I can't nobody can take advantage of me.
- 2:57:24SPEAKER_08: I'm an original man.
- 2:57:25SPEAKER_08: What are you talking about?
- 2:57:26SPEAKER_07: Or like let's say you a female rapes you, what are you gonna say?
- 2:57:29SPEAKER_07: No, that's not true.
- 2:57:30SPEAKER_08: I don't understand that concept.
- 2:57:32SPEAKER_04: I don't understand that concept.
- 2:57:33SPEAKER_04: If you don't rap you, that's not cheating.
- 2:57:36SPEAKER_04: Explain.
- 2:57:37SPEAKER_08: So if a man rapes you, that's cheating too?
- 2:57:39SPEAKER_07: No.
- 2:57:40SPEAKER_08: So what the fuck are you talking about?
- 2:57:41SPEAKER_07: But if a if a female rapes you, that's not cheating.
- 2:57:45SPEAKER_08: Well, you were the wrong shorty.
- 2:57:46SPEAKER_01: So your point was you shouldn't have like should you have kids with someone you don't see yourself marrying?
- 2:57:50SPEAKER_01: That is my right.
- 2:57:51SPEAKER_01: I know though.
- 2:57:52SPEAKER_07: But that's a hard thing.
- 2:57:53SPEAKER_01: Because that means you're like, if you have a kid with someone you don't see a future with, you plan, you like.
- 2:57:58SPEAKER_01: But what if it's not a good one?
- 2:58:00SPEAKER_01: You have to deal with that.
- 2:58:02SPEAKER_01: You have to deal with them for the rest of your life.
- 2:58:04SPEAKER_01: Just the same thing.
- 2:58:04SPEAKER_01: You know how Carucci did with Chris Brown?
- 2:58:06SPEAKER_01: Like, he had all this shit cheating, but as soon as you get a baby mama, I'm out.
- 2:58:09SPEAKER_07: But let me ask you a question.
- 2:58:10SPEAKER_01: I'm out because you gotta deal with that woman for the rest of your life.
- 2:58:13SPEAKER_01: Let me ask you a question.
- 2:58:15SPEAKER_08: Yeah, exactly.
- 2:58:15SPEAKER_08: Not no 18 years bull.
- 2:58:17SPEAKER_08: Let me ask you a serious question.
- 2:58:18SPEAKER_08: Exactly.
- 2:58:18SPEAKER_08: God forbid a kid dies, you still gotta deal with that.
- 2:58:20SPEAKER_01: Let me ask you a child.
- 2:58:20SPEAKER_01: It's still another woman you have to let into your relationship.
- 2:58:23SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
- 2:58:23SPEAKER_07: As a male, even though I'm doing that openly, but as another male for another day.
- 2:58:26SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
- 2:58:27SPEAKER_07: As a male, I could say this.
- 2:58:28SPEAKER_07: It's not in our last decision.
- 2:58:32SPEAKER_07: It's not.
- 2:58:32SPEAKER_07: That's true.
- 2:58:33SPEAKER_07: Because there could be a situation where, you know, we both slip up.
- 2:58:37SPEAKER_07: A female gets pregnant.
- 2:58:38SPEAKER_07: Woman.
- 2:58:39SPEAKER_07: A woman gets pregnant.
- 2:58:40SPEAKER_07: I can say get rid of it.
- 2:58:42SPEAKER_07: As a female, y'all have the last choice to be like, I'm not getting rid of it.
- 2:58:45SPEAKER_07: And guess what?
- 2:58:46SPEAKER_07: Her body, her choice.
- 2:58:46SPEAKER_07: Y'all will fuck up our lives and not realize that y'all fucked up our lives.
- 2:58:50SPEAKER_07: The cum came out of the street.
- 2:58:51SPEAKER_07: For having a baby?
- 2:58:52SPEAKER_07: What do you mean?
- 2:58:53SPEAKER_07: For having how would we fuck up your lives?
- 2:58:55SPEAKER_07: I'm in a situation.
- 2:58:57SPEAKER_07: If I'm in a situation where distracting.
- 2:58:59SPEAKER_07: Exactly.
- 2:59:00SPEAKER_07: That's your sperm.
- 2:59:00SPEAKER_07: You didn't get raped.
- 2:59:01SPEAKER_07: But you don't understand what I'm saying.
- 2:59:02SPEAKER_07: Exactly.
- 2:59:03SPEAKER_07: If we're both not in a financial stable position, then be more responsible.
- 2:59:08SPEAKER_01: That's both irresponsible.
- 2:59:10SPEAKER_01: Exactly, but that's not only her fault.
- 2:59:12SPEAKER_01: That's on you.
- 2:59:13SPEAKER_01: You do not blame her for something.
- 2:59:15SPEAKER_01: I'm not blaming her.
- 2:59:16SPEAKER_01: You said you don't realize it.
- 2:59:17SPEAKER_01: She's fuck up.
- 2:59:18SPEAKER_07: And I'm making a responsible choice of saying, listen, we're not ready.
- 2:59:22SPEAKER_07: Neither one of us have a financial stability.
- 2:59:25SPEAKER_07: Let's just get rid of it and wait.
- 2:59:26SPEAKER_07: And you say, no, I want this kid.
- 2:59:29SPEAKER_07: Now you're making the irresponsible decision at the end of that choice.
- 2:59:33SPEAKER_01: But again, you were the original part of that choice.
- 2:59:36SPEAKER_01: That was the risk you took.
- 2:59:38SPEAKER_04: She's not asexual.
- 2:59:39SPEAKER_01: Consciously took that risk.
- 2:59:41SPEAKER_01: So at the end of the day, you can't blame her.
- 2:59:43SPEAKER_01: Yeah, both of you.
- 2:59:44SPEAKER_01: But then again, right now you're trying to remove yourself from that choice because she's keeping the baby.
- 2:59:48SPEAKER_01: That's the problem.
- 2:59:50SPEAKER_01: I'm trying to make it because she said give her a party.
- 2:59:52SPEAKER_01: Look at what you're saying.
- 2:59:54SPEAKER_07: Yeah, yeah.
- 2:59:55SPEAKER_07: Exactly.
- 2:59:57SPEAKER_01: After that, it's in her body, so she could do what she wants.
- 3:00:02SPEAKER_07: The responsible thing to do in that situation where we both don't have is to get rid of it.
- 3:00:08SPEAKER_07: What is the problem?
- 3:00:10SPEAKER_01: The problem is it's still not only her fault.
- 3:00:13SPEAKER_01: I didn't give her a choice.
- 3:00:14SPEAKER_01: That's the issue because you seem you were you were saying that she's sort of fucking up your life, but again, that's the risk you took.
- 3:00:21SPEAKER_06: Okay.
- 3:00:21SPEAKER_01: Um She wouldn't be pregnant without your sperm.
- 3:00:24SPEAKER_01: So if you don't want her to get pregnant, if you're not financially stable to raise a baby, use kind of step.
- 3:00:32SPEAKER_06: What is the uh no?
- 3:00:33SPEAKER_07: I was I was saying basically to came to that you could both male and female be, you know, do something, like have sexual contact, and she gets pregnant.
- 3:00:44SPEAKER_07: And it's both irresponsible on both parts to not really protect themselves, knowing that they're both not financially stable.
- 3:00:51SPEAKER_07: But at the end of the situation when we both feel like, okay, she's pregnant, we're both not financially stable to take care of a kid, the male might say, you know what, the responsible thing to do is to get rid of the child and wait, which is something I don't condone.
- 3:01:04SPEAKER_07: I don't believe in it, but if that's the responsible thing to do.
- 3:01:08SPEAKER_07: Because if that's the responsible thing to do, then it's better to take responsibility.
- 3:01:12SPEAKER_08: So what do you, what would you do in your personal life if you're not sure?
- 3:01:14SPEAKER_08: In my personal life, you talk this doctrine if you don't believe in it.
- 3:01:17SPEAKER_08: Because this is my thing.
- 3:01:18SPEAKER_07: I would never want to get rid of my child, but if a situation pushed me where I can't maintain that child, I don't want to ever bring up a child in a fucked up situation.
- 3:01:26SPEAKER_07: I would be forced to.
- 3:01:27SPEAKER_07: Okay, so then you believe in it then, nigga.
- 3:01:29SPEAKER_07: Yeah, because I don't really believe in it.
- 3:01:30SPEAKER_07: Because I don't really want to.
- 3:01:31SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
- 3:01:32SPEAKER_01: You're saying that you would do it, so then I mean, you believe in the choice.
- 3:01:36SPEAKER_01: You believe in having.
- 3:01:39SPEAKER_06: That is gay.
- 3:01:40SPEAKER_06: Because it was in jail.
- 3:01:41SPEAKER_08: In Brazil, if you fuck a man in the ass, the fucking the guy that's doing the fucking is now gay.
- 3:01:45SPEAKER_08: In Brazil.
- 3:01:46SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
- 3:01:46SPEAKER_08: I'm just gonna point that out to you.
- 3:01:47SPEAKER_06: Yeah, yeah.
- 3:01:48SPEAKER_06: I wasn't gay.
- 3:01:48SPEAKER_05: I'm not gay.
- 3:01:49SPEAKER_05: You were sucking my dick.
- 3:01:50SPEAKER_05: You didn't talk about fucking.
- 3:01:51SPEAKER_04: Well, the rumor is that there's a lot of women out there that look like women, but they're men and they do not know.
- 3:01:57SPEAKER_08: No, no, it's cisgender.
- 3:01:58SPEAKER_08: They identify as women, so they're women.
- 3:01:59SPEAKER_08: Yo, listen, listen, man.
- 3:02:00SPEAKER_08: So what are you talking about?
- 3:02:02SPEAKER_08: I'm talking about the fact where you just said this.
- 3:02:04SPEAKER_05: Cisgender Frank has a deal as a point.
- 3:02:06SPEAKER_04: It's not a point, though.
- 3:02:07SPEAKER_04: I'm saying that you're a man who you're gonna be.
- 3:02:15SPEAKER_01: And you and you identify as a man.
- 3:02:17SPEAKER_01: So there's two components to being cis.
- 3:02:19SPEAKER_04: So if I'm maintaining gender, and I'm approaching something that I believe is a woman, and it is tricking me.
- 3:02:27SPEAKER_04: It's not tricking you if I identify as a woman.
- 3:02:29SPEAKER_04: How's that tricky?
- 3:02:30SPEAKER_09: It's not cisgender.
- 3:02:31SPEAKER_08: Identify as a woman and have woman blood.
- 3:02:34SPEAKER_08: I want to ask the representative in the room.
- 3:02:36SPEAKER_08: Hold on, Kelcha.
- 3:02:37SPEAKER_08: Wait, I'm because it no longer identify as a woman, I'm not a woman?
- 3:02:42SPEAKER_06: No, the whole thing about the whole thing is you have to naturally be born for what you claim to be.
- 3:02:49SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
- 3:02:50SPEAKER_01: So you're suggesting for it.
- 3:02:52SPEAKER_01: Both identities have to align.
- 3:02:54SPEAKER_01: Your sexual.
- 3:02:55SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
- 3:02:56SPEAKER_08: If I can't identify as what I want to, then this is bullshit.
- 3:02:58SPEAKER_08: That's that's a good thing.
- 3:02:59SPEAKER_08: Cisgender Frank relaxed.
- 3:03:01SPEAKER_08: So I'm back to be cisgender G because I can't be cisgender frank, because apparently.
- 3:03:07SPEAKER_01: No, no, that you are because you're you were born a man and you identify as a man.
- 3:03:10SPEAKER_08: No, but I'm born.
- 3:03:11SPEAKER_01: You identify with the gender you were born at.
- 3:03:13SPEAKER_01: If I was a transgender, but how would it be?
- 3:03:15SPEAKER_01: You wouldn't be cis then.
- 3:03:16SPEAKER_01: If you're transgender, that's not cis.
- 3:03:19SPEAKER_01: Because they were born a man, right?
- 3:03:21SPEAKER_01: They were born a man, but then now identify as a woman, that's not cisgender.
- 3:03:24SPEAKER_08: But what am I at the end of the day?
- 3:03:26SPEAKER_08: Right now, you're a cisgender.
- 3:03:28SPEAKER_01: Right now, you're cisgender.
- 3:03:31SPEAKER_01: You were a man.
- 3:03:32SPEAKER_08: You're a cisgender.
- 3:03:35SPEAKER_04: I just want to ask this.
- 3:03:38SPEAKER_04: If you are identifying a woman is what I'm gathering, and you were born with a sexual cisgender, then you'd be a transgender, not a cisgender.
- 3:03:46SPEAKER_04: So wait, so everybody's cisgender then.
- 3:03:47SPEAKER_04: Hold on, hold on.
- 3:03:48SPEAKER_01: Not everybody.
- 3:03:50SPEAKER_01: I just want to ask Ken.
- 3:03:51SPEAKER_07: I was born a man, I identify myself as a man.
- 3:03:54SPEAKER_07: I'm gonna be a cisgender man.
- 3:03:55SPEAKER_07: I can be cisgender choke.
- 3:03:57SPEAKER_07: Exactly choke.
- 3:03:57SPEAKER_08: I just want to ask K.O.
- 3:03:59SPEAKER_08: this last question and we're gonna wrap on this.
- 3:04:01SPEAKER_08: If I am a I was born a man.
- 3:04:05SPEAKER_08: He wanted to be a trainee, so bad.
- 3:04:10SPEAKER_08: If I was born a man in Brazil, I became a woman.
- 3:04:15SPEAKER_08: Uh-huh.
- 3:04:16SPEAKER_08: What am I?
- 3:04:17SPEAKER_01: Transgender.
- 3:04:18SPEAKER_08: Transgendered what?
- 3:04:20SPEAKER_01: Woman.
- 3:04:20SPEAKER_01: You'll be a transgender woman because you're identifying as the woman.
- 3:04:23SPEAKER_01: But wait now.
- 3:04:24SPEAKER_07: Okay, another question.
- 3:04:25SPEAKER_01: And transgender men are, they were born as women, but are transgendered.
- 3:04:28SPEAKER_07: No, wait, wait, I got a question.
- 3:04:30SPEAKER_07: Let's say he's exactly let's say he's born as a man.
- 3:04:34SPEAKER_01: Uh-huh.
- 3:04:35SPEAKER_07: Gets rid of his genital parts, becomes a woman, but still identifies a man.
- 3:04:38SPEAKER_07: What is he?
- 3:04:39SPEAKER_01: He wouldn't be.
- 3:04:40SPEAKER_01: He's not identifying because he changed himself.
- 3:04:42SPEAKER_01: He wouldn't be a man.
- 3:04:44SPEAKER_07: No, because he changed his body.
- 3:04:46SPEAKER_07: So I'm still identifying myself as a man.
- 3:04:50SPEAKER_07: But if he tried to talk to somebody, he's going to still become a man.
- 3:04:53SPEAKER_01: Why did he remove it?
- 3:04:54SPEAKER_01: I told him.
- 3:04:54SPEAKER_01: Because he wanted to be while he was in a man's body.
- 3:04:56SPEAKER_01: But then that's not the same.
- 3:04:58SPEAKER_01: That's not the same.
- 3:04:58SPEAKER_01: The whole point is that both these things have to identify.
- 3:05:01SPEAKER_06: So, Chubbs, I asked you to quit while you were ahead.
- 3:05:04SPEAKER_06: Oh shit.
- 3:05:05SPEAKER_01: What was the original question?
- 3:05:07SPEAKER_08: I think this is a good thing.
- 3:05:07SPEAKER_08: I can't believe it, of course.
- 3:05:09SPEAKER_08: Yes, we're for Zap to take us out.
- 3:05:11SPEAKER_08: We have covered every topic and we've had a glorious podcast and we want to listen, you know, to everybody's, you know, point of view on everything.
- 3:05:19SPEAKER_08: And you know, we'll be back again next week.
- 3:05:21SPEAKER_08: Miami's not next week, Red.
- 3:05:23SPEAKER_08: That's the podcast.
- 3:05:24SPEAKER_08: You'll be by yourself with a cup of tea, and you'll talk to the listeners about the things you want to do.
- 3:05:29SPEAKER_08: Don't worry, it'll be red.
- 3:05:31SPEAKER_08: It'll be silent with red.
- 3:05:32SPEAKER_07: It'll be red and cisgender red.
- 3:05:33SPEAKER_07: That'll be all in one room.
- 3:05:35SPEAKER_08: You're fucking it up still.
- 3:05:36SPEAKER_08: That'll be our spin-off podcast.
- 3:05:38SPEAKER_08: That'll be our spin-off podcast.
- 3:05:39SPEAKER_08: Story time with red.
- 3:05:41SPEAKER_05: And then that's gonna be that that's just gonna be like the uh placeholder.
- 3:05:46SPEAKER_07: Nah, we gotta we gotta bring back Bronx versus the third world.
- 3:05:49SPEAKER_06: Nah, but I ain't no fucking placeholder.
- 3:05:51SPEAKER_08: And I just want Zap to do the one thing that he does marginally well.
- 3:05:55SPEAKER_08: It's finally speak on the mic.
- 3:06:00SPEAKER_08: I'd rather speak on the mic than slab on it, shows.
- 3:06:02SPEAKER_08: Oh anyway.
- 3:06:04SPEAKER_05: This hasn't been cis money.
- 3:06:06SPEAKER_05: This hasn't been cisgender frank money.
- 3:06:09SPEAKER_05: Cisgender Tom is what you identify now.
- 3:06:12SPEAKER_08: Tom, okay.
- 3:06:13SPEAKER_08: Um, but this has been gas money.
- 3:06:19SPEAKER_08: Perfect.
- 3:06:20SPEAKER_05: Per perfect though?