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Biblical Wisdom Meets Modern Science with Robe Rene · Giving Pain Purpose with Lyndsay Soprano

• Lyndsay Soprano (00:03.607) Purpose, you know, we're here for a reason, right? I mean, at least that's what they tell us, that we're here for a reason. I certainly hope that we are here for a reason, because I don't know why the heck we're going through all of it without a purpose, right? So what's yours? I mean, I never had one. And in putting this episode together, I was thinking about purpose, thinking about mine, thinking about my life, my background, and everything that I've been through. And I'm like, have I never... never had a purpose driven life. My purpose was always like work and things and getting things done and being busy all the time. That was my purpose. And then a few years ago, when I started this show, my purpose shifted, you know, because life happened to me and continued to happen. And when I started talking about my personal stories of trauma and pain and resilience through it all on this show, my purpose started. giving pain purpose. And I know it sounds convoluted to give pain purpose, but what else am I going to do with it? Jump off a bridge is one option. We've explored it. did not, it did not bode well, but even more so, you know, getting out of bed gets harder and harder and harder when you live in pain. But my purpose is sitting here right now with my guest, with you, my audience, and myself, because every single time I sit behind this mic and I talk to you guys, Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (01:10.754) Yeah. That bad, bad. Lyndsay Soprano (01:31.669) I learn more about myself, I learn more about my soul, my spirit, my heart, who I am, what I'm all about, and that is why we are here today. And one of the things though that we're gonna talk about today is Big Pharma, a bunch of other things as well. But man, does Big Pharma make me squirm. And you guys know that it does. Like how many pills do we need to take that do not heal us, that do not truly help us? They mask it, they harm us, they cause us. every other problem on the planet, like, great, now I have to lose 30 pounds because I'm taking something that's good for my depression or whatever, causes so many other problems in our bodies. And I am not saying that there is not a purpose for Big Pharma when it is necessary, but the ongoing, everyday, taking it to mask, I'm over it, right? My personal experiences have all been negative. Every single one of them have been negative. And Let's talk about it. So I have an epic guy here today to talk with me about this amongst a bunch of other things and faith is one of them. you know, I don't talk about religion and politics on this show, but faith is what also gets me out of bed. We all have our different types of faith and I would love to talk to my buddy Rob about this today. Hey, Rob, it is so good to have you here, my sweet. How are you? Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (02:49.55) I am fantastic. This will be a lot of fun. Lyndsay Soprano (02:52.747) my God, we're gonna have a blast. Let me introduce you. So he is a former high level athlete and near death survivor turned natural health advocate. As a keynote speaker, herbalist and molecular hydrogen researcher, Rob shares his insights on living pain-free through frequency medicine. We're gonna talk about what frequency medicine is and natural healing. He hosts the I Am Pain-Free podcast, which is getting a quick rebrand and we're gonna talk about that too. tackling topics like natural health censorship, frequency medicine, and biblical healing wisdom. And I know my audience knows that was hard for me to say. Through his company, Exit is Strong, Rob aims to help people break free from big pharma and embrace natural solutions. I am so glad to have you here. I am rolling out the red carpet for you, babe. I would like to start talking about what happened to you in the beautiful state of Utah that turned your world upside down. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (03:28.568) Yeah. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (03:41.484) I love it. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (03:47.372) Yeah. Yeah. All right. Sounds good. That was a very, very interesting part of my life. And I call it the first truck. So, you know, I used to be, I used to be a runner and I loved running and I was my goal in life to be a professional runner. And I was pretty darn good at it. And one of the things that's important to my story is when I was young, I learned how to eat well and fuel my body. Well, when my competition's eating hot dogs and hamburgers and the popcorn. Lyndsay Soprano (03:49.111) And let's take it from there. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (04:17.006) I'm eating really healthy and I had energy at the end of my races and I would typically out kick my competition and they got really mad. was like, how come he can always beat us at the end? Cause I know how to fuel my body. Yeah, exactly. And so it's just important part of now who I've become and why I'm so passionate about health. But you know, that story is a big part of my life. I was out on a 10 mile run. Lyndsay Soprano (04:29.761) I hope they were all 21. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (04:47.106) I just made it U.S. junior team, so was the second best miler in the country. And I was just on my way to being an Olympic athlete like I had planned to be. And that winter I was out on a 10 mile run with my friend and he was running behind me and we were on a back country road in the winter and it was just all snow covered and icy. And all of my friend yells my name and I turn around and I see a four by four truck sliding into me. And I had no where to go. Just the only thing I could do is say, I'm going to get hit. I'm going to get hit. And boom, this four by four truck hit me in the hip and threw me 36 feet. my, you know, hit me in the hip and my legs flew out from underneath me and flying through the air and landed straight on my face. And then my knees and it was a knock me out unconscious and just I'm blessed to be alive because that was one of my, family kind of jokes at me is like, I'm on my probably my ninth life and I need to be careful with this one because I've had experiences like being hit by a truck that was really was very close to ending my life. And so I'm hugely blessed that I was able to survive that. And but man, it was a difficult recovery period and losing my passion in life. And all of a it's just all gone. That is something I don't wish on my worst enemy. It was really, really, really tragic part of my life. now I can look back on it and I can see purpose in that. And that's what's interesting to me now that I'm older and I can look back at my life. I really honestly believe I am a faith-based person, as you can tell, but I really honestly believe that God has been training me. for what I'm doing today and I'm finally walking in my purpose, which is totally bizarre. If you had told me 20 years ago, I'm doing what I'm doing today, 10 years ago, five years ago, I would have said, you're absolutely nuts. There's no way. Lyndsay Soprano (06:49.847) Exactly. I'm in complete agreement with that. I'm like, if somebody told me 10 years ago that I would be living in excruciating pain every single day of my life, every minute of my life, and I would be doing a podcast talking about it and trying to help others get healed, I would have absolutely laughed at you. Like, what? You're crazy. I'm good. Everything's going to be fine. And you know what? That's what happens in life, though. You know, we get hit by Mack trucks. We do. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (07:05.772) Yes, yes, seriously. Yeah. Yeah. Yep, yep, yep. Lyndsay Soprano (07:18.131) I'm being hit by one simultaneously during this episode, you know? Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (07:21.142) Yeah, every limb of your body. You poor, yeah, I mean, gosh, I can't even imagine what you're going through, but I understand it. All right. Lyndsay Soprano (07:28.211) well, don't even worry about me. We're talking about you, baby. So, okay. So after all of that, what kicked you into getting into the natural side of medicine instead of the big pharma side of it? Let's go there. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (07:39.522) Well, that's so interesting because I literally went through a decade or a couple of decades actually of just doing what the world told me to do. The world told me to go get a job and I got a job at a large corporation. I moved up the ladder in a large corporation and I had a beautiful family and three kids and a white picket fence and a dog. I did everything that the world tells me to do. Then the second truck hit me. I call it the second truck. It wasn't a physical truck this time, but it was the pandemic. but it just swept my legs out from underneath like my first one did. And in respect, I lost my job for the first time and I was like, Holy smokes, what am I going to do? I'm in my mid forties and I'm like, what do I do? And, yeah, now, now what? It was really an interesting situation. That's something I'd never. Lyndsay Soprano (08:27.748) Now what? Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (08:33.122) been experienced before. But the beautiful thing about it now that I look back on it again is that I learned how to research topics on my own. And during that process, I really uncovered what a lot of people are understanding now is how corrupt our health system is and how back in the early 1900s, our medical system in the United States got really taken over. by the Rockefellers and the Flexner reports and things that happened way back in the early 1900s that just changed our medical schools and they started vilifying all natural health practitioners and just woke me up to a really bad part of our society that, you and I realized that our information is totally controlled. And that really frustrated me because I'm like, man, we live in the greatest country. I wanted to be an Olympic athlete. I run the run for the United States. I wanted to to celebrate and wear my flag and just be super excited about it. And like we're the freest country in the world. We're the most prosperous country in the world. And I thought we had freedom of information. And my gosh, you know, I realize how untrue that really is. And that just became the furthest we've reached. It's so bizarre. Lyndsay Soprano (09:51.927) You got that right buddy. We are being bamboozled. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (09:56.942) It's so bizarre and they're really, really good at it. They're really good at it. You know, it's crazy. But when you start to uncover that and you pull open the layers and you start seeing the corruption and then you start navigating it and like, oh my gosh, wow, this is really, really interesting. So I don't trust anybody when they tell me, you know, anything anymore. You know, I have to take in their information. I say, thank you. That's good information. Lyndsay Soprano (09:58.827) I know. I know, I know. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (10:25.942) And then I go have to, have to go research it myself because it's just, it's just, there's too much information out there. That's just either controlled information where somebody wants me to think that way, or it's wrong information. It's a scientific report that says something that's totally bogus, right? Or, you know, all the above, but anyway, it's been fascinating that that now that research skill that I have has just been really valuable to me is like, Hey, I want to go out and see how I can help people in this world. And that brings me finally to the answer to your question is how did you start getting doing? Yeah, exactly. I knew I told you I would get there. It might take me a while, but it is, but you know, this is all natural health is like the key to my existence right now. Cause it's like, remember back when I was an athlete, right? Nutrition was core to what I was doing. And then I spent 30 years not even thinking about it, but then boom, pandemic hits. I'm like, Lyndsay Soprano (10:59.063) We get there, we get there, that's what we do. Lyndsay Soprano (11:04.424) It's a journey, Rob. It's a journey. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (11:24.408) Geez, how am gonna help my family survive this crazy COVID thing, right? And initially everyone was freaking out about it as all everybody knows. Lyndsay Soprano (11:33.559) I mean, every single one of us on the planet went through that, which is so incredible as a society. And I don't feel like we took enough from it than we should have. Yeah. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (11:36.012) Yeah. Yup. I agree. Yeah. And to me, I took a lot about it for, I'm excited that I actually went through that because I just re-taught me to how to research and to understand things for myself and think for myself and not have to think what the radio tells me or the TV news station tells me or this article I read on my phone. I realized how corrupt the medical system is as well as the information system. information is 100 % controlled. which was totally bizarre to me. didn't believe that was possible. So anyway, now that I know that corruption exists, I can start doing my own research on things that are topics that are important to me. And then I can come up with what I believe is the truth and maybe it's not, but that's what I believe. And then I want to share that information with people because I think it's important. think health is... key to our existence. think God made us incredibly and wonderfully and fearfully. And we have this temple of ours that, man, we only have one of them, right? And it's like the only one you're going to get. So you better darn well take care of it because if you don't take care of it, you're going to suffer and it's going to be a difficult period and difficult life for you. So why don't we just learn how to take care of our bodies like the way God intended. And then man, he made this thing so cool that our bodies heal itself. If we give it the right nutrients and the right order and the right process and we don't take in all this drugs like you mentioned, you know the average senior is on 14 different prescriptions or at least they take 14 different prescription medications in a year. So it's... Lyndsay Soprano (13:27.031) Yep, my sweetie, in fact, I do all of his pills. He's a big pharma guy, so he and I do not agree on this. He does, I have his little AM in his PMs, and he does this thing, and each morning and each evening, there's probably six or seven in the morning and six or seven in the evening, and that's what he does, and he's okay with that, and I do my job as little wifey, which is totally not how I am, duh. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (13:31.764) Right. Right. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (13:47.982) All right. Right. Yeah Lyndsay Soprano (13:56.619) But it's something that's his thing. And you know what? He is healthy as an ox and he takes complete crappy care of himself. Drives me batshit. Here we are working so hard on not getting cancer and getting pain free and all of these things that I'm doing all the right things, eating as healthy as I can when I eat. And I know I stink at that. And then this guy, you know. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (14:05.134) Right, right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Lyndsay Soprano (14:23.775) He just puts whatever he wants in his mouth, takes whatever he needs, and he's 73 years old and he is healthier than I probably have ever been. It drives me insane. It is. It is. I want to bottle him up. Yeah, I want to bottle him up and make him into a supplement. Well, let's get out of the medical cartel after, you know, let's get out of it, man. So let's talk about. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (14:32.267) Yeah, that's amazing, right? It's amazing. We need to teach people how to not do that though, right? There you go. There you go. I like it. Yes. Sounds good. I love it. Let's get rid of it. Lyndsay Soprano (14:53.079) The biblical wisdom side of what you've been doing for your, you know, guys, I don't talk about products on this show. It's just not my jam. I don't do it. It's not, I'm not here to push product. That's not what I do. But because your story is so interesting and because it, some of my childhood religious trauma came up during our first conversation. I'm like, we gotta talk about it. And why you went this route with going about creating a product for people to help them. This is really, really interesting. So talk to me about that frequency medicine and the ancient wisdom that you've put into your products. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (15:31.148) Yeah, it's really fun because I got really passionate about nutrition again when that the pandemic hit like we mentioned earlier and one of the doctors that I was following was talking about vitamin D and I was like, okay, vitamin D is like the sun. I know that it's like natural thing. Why are they vilifying this guy? And that started me down the rabbit hole on why they were attacking and trying to sue this guy for billions of dollars to talk about vitamin D. And I uncovered that he wasn't bad and I knew vitamin D wasn't bad. And so then it helped me uncover how corrupt our healthcare system is. But that being said, it got me really interested in nutrition again. And I'm like, I'm going help people. How am going to help people? then I got introduced to this quantum energy frequencies technology. And when I first heard about it, I thought that was absolutely crazy too. Cause it was like, this guy said, I'm going to put a patch on your skin. Lyndsay Soprano (16:00.948) and DB bath. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (16:27.202) There's no medicine in it and it's going to help you with maybe say allergies or pain. and I'm just like, come on, you know, yeah, right. You know, exactly. But then guess what? This new skillset that I learned was super exciting to me. So I'm like, okay, I'm going to go prove this guy wrong. Right. So I take, I take his information and I start doing research. I'm like, my gosh, the human body is made up of energy. And, even down to the cellular level. Lyndsay Soprano (16:34.689) Yeah, yeah, whatever. Yeah, yeah. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (16:54.818) The our cells interact with each other via vibration which then gives off guess what frequencies and he told me there was frequencies on this patch that helped I'm like, well, that's bizarre. Okay, so frequencies aren't as strange as I thought and the body can actually interact with frequencies, you know, and then the frequency word just confused me because I'm like what the heck is that frequency and then I Lyndsay Soprano (17:17.195) Well yeah, doesn't sound like something that would have anything to do with our bodies or our health or anything like that. For me it's like TV or radio or getting your wifi. Like what's your frequency, babe? Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (17:21.578) Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. And there's so you realize that frequencies are everywhere and your body actually gives off frequencies and receive frequencies. So once I started understanding that and I'm like, okay, so maybe this isn't as weird as I thought it was. And then we started testing that product out with a community and they loved it and it really helped them. And it was like zero medicine, right? So nothing, nothing. interacted with anything else and it was just healthy frequencies and I was like man this is really cool and during that period of time when I was going through the frustration with a medical cartel I did a lot of praying and I did a lot of reading in the Bible and so during during that time I really developed I've been a what I call a creaster my most of my life or you know go to church on Christmas and Easter and I'd call myself a Christian you know Lyndsay Soprano (18:16.279) Creaster my god, I love the name for that because that's exactly what I mean I was raised in a very very right wing Christian home and it was like my god, I gotta go to like Christmas and Easter that was it Creaster I Was a creaster. I don't know what I am now, but it isn't a creaster Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (18:20.962) Ha Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (18:26.349) Right. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (18:30.254) Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you were a priest or yeah. Right. So anyway, that during that period is when I really felt I have a direct connection to God and I believe that he's my savior and I believe that the Bible is real and true and living, which is really exciting to me because as I read the Bible, it's like I'm thinking and I believe he's communicating with me and it's just been a fascinating journey because I'm following. what he wants me to do. And I'm having an incredible blast learning and just trying to help people in this world. So I was researching all the biblical ingredients in the Bible. I'm like, okay, there's nutrition in the Bible and the body is our temple and we only have one of them. So how do I help people? And I just kept coming back to those ingredients in the Bible. was like, man, there's got to be something special in here. There's one that's a component called the bomb of Gilead. It's like the healing ointment. like, I want to find the bomb of Gilead so I can just say, I can save the world. Right. I'm just like, how do I find that? And I couldn't find it. You know, I was praying, but then he led me to this practitioner in California who's got this molecular hydrogen blend that was just perfect. He was looking for me. I was looking for him and we married together my biblical ingredients that match and pair what the molecular hydrogen component does and we created this Exodus product from it. So it's just a supplement. It's not just, it's amazing supplement. It replaces a lot of other supplements that you could be taking. It's got seven biblical ingredients, organic barley grass and wheat grass, which give you energy and the nutrients that you need. So you don't need to take a green shake every morning. It's got saffron in it, which is Lyndsay Soprano (20:19.401) Yeah, ew, nobody wants to do this. I don't want to sip on wheatgrass, people. God, it's disgusting. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (20:23.72) I know. Yeah, it's great. It doesn't taste good, right? Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So then we have saffron, which saffron is great for stress. the most expensive element. It's even more expensive than gold, which is bizarre. Yeah, saffron is known for helping with anxiety and stress. Lyndsay Soprano (20:29.045) I used to do it every day and I hated every minute of it. Lyndsay Soprano (20:44.427) What? Really? Interesting. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (20:51.82) That's in it. And then we have aloe and cumin, which help with inflammation and the gut health. And frankincense and myrrh, know, the two gifts that were given to Jesus, to baby Jesus, are helpful with inflammation as well. Inflammation is the source of all disease, which is pretty bizarre. But when you learn about inflammation and how it impacts our body, The all natural health doctors I interview on my podcast are like, yes, the inflammation is the source of all disease. No matter what disease you have, it starts with inflammation in some part part of your body. So this molecular hydrogen blend is so amazing that it acts as a master antioxidant in your bloodstream. So it will go find the free radicals and get rid of them. And then it helps your mitochondrial process, which is the component of your cells that produce energy. Right? And it helps them work better. So you really have this sustained energy and cleaner blood by using molecular hydrogen inside your blood. So the combination of those two components are a product that I'm just super stoked to take to the world because I believe that it was created by him. And I believe that I want to change the world by helping them with their health. I love the Exodus 15 26 is like for I am the Lord your healer and I want to I want to help people with that and because You talked about Bible verses and stuff at least we did before the show and it was like, you know Lyndsay Soprano (22:26.519) We did, because I'm going to say it because one of my girlfriends, Lobby, I know you're going to listen to this episode because she's on it as well. Rob, thank you again for sending me and my girlfriend who also has CRPS, the products, but she and I have been taking it. Now, as you guys know, I'm not a big Jesus person, but I have faith in the universe and the spirit world and all that. I believe that we are here for a reason. I believe that there's a reason why we are created. I believe that there's a reason why you and me, Rob, right now are having this conversation. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (22:54.54) Yeah, amen. Lyndsay Soprano (22:55.857) and how you came into my world. so with the product delivery came this card. And it's Monday through Sunday. It's the every day of the week that you're supposed to take it. He's holding it up. my goodness, you crazy man. And there's a Bible verse that you read with each one. And I'm like, I can't even believe I'm doing this. Can't even believe. My sweetie's like, okay, go for it, babe. I'm like, Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (23:08.75) You Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (23:17.56) Hahaha! Lyndsay Soprano (23:23.969) Damn it, if this heals me, I swear to God, you're gonna be a believer. And so I have read the Bible verses inside myself and out loud, which was weird. And so I'm doing it, I'm doing it, Rob, I told you I would, and I'm doing it. I'm actually, it feels weird to do it, but what's so strange to me, and I believe this whole heart of the universe speaking to us is there are, Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (23:25.806) That's right. That's right. That's right. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (23:36.024) Good job. Good job. Yep. There's power in that bunk. There's power. Good job. Lyndsay Soprano (23:53.653) The day that I'm taking it and the Bible verse that is there with it, even though it's the same one that was Wednesday last week, it applies totally and completely to whatever the heck that I was going through during that evening before or that moment when I'm taking it. It's so weird. I don't like it, Rob, but I also love it. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (24:13.326) It's amazing. It's a living word. It's so cool. Lyndsay Soprano (24:19.937) I'm gonna make sure my mom listens to this episode by the way, because she doesn't listen to my show. Mom, this is one for you. you know, biblical wisdom meets modern science. And I love that. I love that because you know, for me, cause I don't believe that oxy was in the Bible. What's that? I don't think that we had any big pharma in the Bible and all of those people, I mean, they didn't have the length of lives that we have, but man, I mean. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (24:22.638) There you go. There you go. Come on. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (24:37.278) Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's man-made, yeah, exactly. Lyndsay Soprano (24:49.823) It's just, it's just great. So, okay. So now we've got, you've got this product and you're putting it out there. Now, how has this helped you and your family and people around you? Like, have you legitimately seen the health benefits of this? Because that is, I mean, you're here for a purpose. But for me, it's like, there's so many fricking supplements that are out there, Rob. I mean, there it is. And so it is a slippery slope when we're all going through it. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (25:09.538) Yes. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (25:14.402) There are, yep. Lyndsay Soprano (25:19.223) especially when you're living in pain or you've been diagnosed with cancer, right? For example, where you're like, you're trying everything. I remember my dad was diagnosed with prostate cancer many, many years ago. And he basically locked himself in his office for six months, didn't talk to my mom all that much, didn't really talk to me all that much. And he had a spreadsheet of, I feel like it was like, well, he and I are so alike. It's like, we have spreadsheets for everything. I have spreadsheets for everything. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (25:23.394) Yes. Lyndsay Soprano (25:48.637) And I got that from him. So thanks, dad. And he he created the spreadsheet and he had all these supplements and he had cupboards full of them. And he was like, I am not going to do chemo. I'm not going to do radiation. I'm going to heal myself naturally. And he went down the same kind of road like you, where he was like, I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to have my prostate removed. I'm not going to do these things. And bam, he was like cottage cheese, habanero peppers and flaxseed oil. He ate it. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (26:05.815) Right. Lyndsay Soprano (26:18.515) every morning to sweat out the cancer. My dad's been cancer free. No pills, no pills, no big pharma, no surgeries, none of that. And he did it his own way, the natural way. And he's very, very faith-based man as well. I don't know if that's where that came from. I never asked him about that particularly, probably because he's much more on that side of things. But man, man, I love it. Yeah. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (26:21.312) Wow, that's amazing. That's beautiful. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (26:31.66) Yeah. Yep. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (26:38.732) Right. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (26:45.462) That's amazing. love that story because there's so many. I'm obviously dig into that a lot now as well. And I believe that there is a lot just in faith that, you know, Lord, the Lord could heal you at any moment, right? You could be reading that prayer guide and he could he could heal you. Right. That's that that is a potential thing. But he also could be using your pain for a purpose. Right. You're doing an amazing job of really impacting thousands of people's lives by doing what you're doing. So maybe for a period of time, you're going to continue to do that, right? Who knows what his plan is, but just trust that he does have a plan for your life and that it's exciting when you step into that. And it's just fun to try to, our goal with Exodus is to try to get a million new people to read the word through their health, right? I want to help people with their health. That's the core thing of what we're trying to do, because I think our world is really messed up and we need to get people to be healthy. Lyndsay Soprano (27:37.015) Understatement. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (27:39.31) You know, yeah. And I believe the exodus product has transformed me in a dramatic way. I have a slow beating heart where my heart rate is averaged to 32 beats a minute, right? Which is like really low. And yeah, I go to the doctor's office and they're like, holy smokes, we need to take you to the emergency room. I'm like, no, no, hold on. Seriously, as part of the treatments I'm going through right now, I had to wear a Lyndsay Soprano (27:51.847) Whoa! Yeah! Lyndsay Soprano (27:57.643) You're- you need- bring the paddles! Bring the paddles! Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (28:08.206) a heart monitor and the heart monitor plays, me five times or like, uh, the doctor, the cardiologist wants you to go to the emergency room. I'm like, I've been living this way for 20 years. I'm like, come on, I'm fine. But I go to the, I go to the emergency room and they literally rushed me right into the, you know, as soon as they took my vitals, they're like, Oh, a doctor came out and said, are you okay? Are you okay? And took me right back. Anyway, long story short, you know, they, they had the paddles literally right there ready to, to, you know, Lyndsay Soprano (28:17.355) I'm good. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (28:36.95) I'm like, I'm fine. But anyway, but the crazy, reason why I mentioned that story is my heart is I don't have as much oxygen in my body as the normal person does. And so about two o'clock in the afternoon, I'd always get exhausted and I'd have to take a nap, you know, and I'd have to take a nap for half hour and then I'd feel a little bit better and I could power through the rest of the day. And so Exodus was so transformational for my personal life is that I take Exodus every day. And I don't have that crash anymore. It's just so bizarre. I just I feel I feel normal. I feel fine. I don't have that have that crash. And then my brother, who's a partner of mine in this business, he also he would he's a very faithful man. He's much more spiritual than I am. And he has his own online ministry. And he would have his alone time with God and he'd be researching the Bible and he would fall asleep and they make him so mad because like I'm supposed to be having a spiritual time and I'm falling asleep. You know, sometimes it can be. Sometimes it can be. Good job. Good job. All right. All right. I was going to say, man, you're fast. Lyndsay Soprano (29:36.695) mean, it's a slow read, Rob. I mean, it is. It's a grind. I've read the entire Bible, by the way. I did, not since I met you, but before that I have. Yeah, and it is a slow, it is a slow read. Oh my God, the paper is so thin. Why? Why is it so thin? Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (29:55.673) Yeah, I know. It's like, oh my gosh. Well, can you imagine how big the book could be if it was like a normal? Lyndsay Soprano (30:04.977) of men writing about things that happened in the past in a book. Yes. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (30:08.93) Yeah, yeah, there's lots of it. anyway, so that that those are two transformational stories just us right of Really helped us in a dramatic way give us sustained energy throughout the day and we even have people who it's really helped in a dramatic way where there's one woman whose daughter was in a really bad state from a mental perspective and then a physical perspective she would literally she would sleep like Lyndsay Soprano (30:16.716) Yeah. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (30:37.454) 22 hours a day and She would only be awake for a couple hours and then it was she would just boom she'd be out and she was just exhausted and this molecular hydrogen blend that she used just transformed her body and she now lives as a normal normal teenager and and is functioning fine and doctors can't figure out what what happened and really the only thing she changed was was using this molecular hydrogen Lyndsay Soprano (30:39.442) my gosh. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (31:06.35) It's just like wow, it's so it really can help in a in a dramatic way and there's thousands of scientific studies that have been done on hydrogen in the body and so it's not something I can I have to prove because it's already been proven right and I know all the biblical ingredients in our product have been proven because each one of them has been scientifically studied so it's just Fascinating that we're able to put this together in a way that's really transforming people's lives in a really positive way And I'm super excited to, know, just make a difference. And I think that's why I'm here is to step into this point. And, know, like we mentioned at one point, maybe before the show, you know, my podcast is called I am pain free. And because I had a pain free or have a pain free product, I try to help people relieve their pain. And our Exodus product helps people relieve pain. But it does so much more. than just pain. And so I want to open that discussion up. as I'm having conversations with people, I want to talk a lot more about integrative oncology. know, like your dad's stories are fascinating. I want to hear lots of stories about people who are helping cure themselves with cancer because cancer is just on the rise like crazy. I think that we need to help people. And then just we're calling this new show Biohackingville and it's going to be a fun show. Lyndsay Soprano (32:14.549) Mm-hmm. Lyndsay Soprano (32:28.764) Biohackingville, I love it, honey. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (32:30.958) It's going to be neat. We're going to have neighborhoods underneath it that talk about integrative oncology. We're going to have a faith-based component for my product and other products similar to ours. And then we'll have a biohacking community that just talks about cold plunges and all the cool new techniques that you can use to help yourself naturally. So it's just going to be blast creating this community and really helping people thrive and use it. Use faith as part of it if you are so inclined. If not, there's going to be awesome resources there for you for all sorts of biohacking tips and tricks. So it's going to be awesome. Yeah. Lyndsay Soprano (33:09.687) Tips and tricks. So does the product work if you're not a believer? Right. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (33:14.806) Yeah, it does because it literally helps down to the core level, right? helps down to your cellular level. It's helping your bloodstream. So you don't have to be a believer for the product to help. Do I think it helps combining the body, mind and spirit? Yes, right. I think that combining those three are more powerful than just one, but it's still going to help you even if you Lyndsay Soprano (33:32.631) Absolutely. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (33:41.356) You don't, you aren't a believer. So we try not to lead with, we don't like leads like here's a, know, here's, here's Jesus. Yeah, exactly. If you don't believe in Jesus, run away. You know, that's not the point. We really want to open our arms up and say, we, yeah, except the old you is what we say, right? We want to accept the old you and maybe the old you is, is more than just your health, but Lyndsay Soprano (33:42.743) It was kind of a joke. Lyndsay Soprano (33:48.503) If you don't believe in Jesus, this won't work for you. Lyndsay Soprano (33:56.875) Exodus outta here, if you don't believe. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (34:07.852) Yeah, at the core, we want to help people get rid of their bad health. And let's get you into the new body that God created. He already created you with the perfect body. Let's get it back to the core. And we're trying to help people get there. Lyndsay Soprano (34:12.065) Yeah. Lyndsay Soprano (34:22.391) And that's where Exodus comes from, right? The name of your product. And I love that for all of us. I mean, it's an interesting conversation for me to have on this show. And I told you this when we did our meet and greet. I'm like, my goodness, it is. And you're not the first person that's come to me that's come from a faith-based place. And I've just been like, I'm just not really sure. Because I don't want to turn some people off to my show. And I know that sounds kind of self-centered. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (34:24.994) Yes. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (34:32.808) Right, I appreciate you even having entertainment. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (34:46.027) Right. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (34:50.038) Yeah, no, I get it. I get it. You want to be sensitive to people. Lyndsay Soprano (34:52.435) It's not just I want to be like holistic with my audience and everybody has their own belief system and all that. So I always want to make sure that I'm careful of that. But coming from somebody that was raised in a Christian home that kind of backfired on me, I don't have a good taste in my mouth for the Christian community. I just don't. Certainly under our current administration as well, which is certainly hurting it from my perspective. And like I said, I don't talk about religion or politics on the show, but I just did it in one sentence. there, yeah. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (35:28.206) Let's just throw all the problems all in the middle. We're gonna blow it up. Lyndsay Soprano (35:29.857) Just throw all the things I said I was never gonna talk about all in one episode. Let's do it. But you know what? I do feel like this season in particular is a little different. And I was talking about it with somebody yesterday that's gonna be on the show in a couple weeks about how this season feels more healing coming from a completely different place. And I can't even really explain it. It's so weird. So you being here right now is an act of God. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (36:02.318) Yeah, yeah, it has to be right. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. I understand. understand. I'm so excited that you even allow me to have the conversation because I think it's an important conversation. I do love that our country is coming together and they've been trying to divide us. so they've been divided by color, by religion. Lyndsay Soprano (36:04.609) For me, sure is. And I am so happy that you are here with me. You are just such a joy. Lyndsay Soprano (36:16.896) Absolutely. Lyndsay Soprano (36:24.108) we're so divided, it's insane. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (36:29.154) by everything they're trying to divide us. And we're all the same, man. I don't care what religion you believe in, I still love you, right? And I want other people to feel accepted. And I think it doesn't matter whether you're green, yellow, orange, white, you know, it doesn't matter what color you are. We're all created in an image of God. And so... Lyndsay Soprano (36:35.594) Amen. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (36:51.682) I want to come to that as a central police, but I do, I'm excited about the country and where we are headed because people are awakening to the big pharma problem much more so than they ever have. And the Maha movement, make America healthy again, is a real movement that's getting people to like, my gosh, there are alternatives to these medicines that they're trying to force down me. And that white coat that I used to always trust and believe in doesn't know as much as I do. Right. You can go research in. in a couple of hours a topic and you can know just as much as your your doc that the doctor for example on nutrition they'll go through 12 years of medical school and they'll have maybe one class on nutrition you know in 12 years so they maybe spend a couple of hours on nutrition in in 12 years of study and they don't remember that right and because they never focus on that but that's so key to who we are and what we're doing so you could spend a couple hours on researching how nutrients help your body and fuel your body. And you're going to be more understanding and appreciative of that than the white coat, right? And so anyway, that's why it's so fun. I'm fascinated with that. We, there's lots of information out there that is good information, that's healthy information. And that's what I want biohackingville to be is this, this is just resource of really good information that is out there to help your body and biohacking, right? The definition of biohacking that's just, using different techniques and natural tools and techniques to help you get well, right? And that's what I want to do is have a ton of people have the right resources they do and places they can find information that is healthy. And then they can go, hey, I'm going to go try that cold plunge today, or I'm going to go do that. The seven minutes of breathing techniques are going to add seven years to my life. And all you had to do is breathe, right? It's like, what the heck? That's just so bizarre, right? But it's like, yeah, I'll see you, yeah. Lyndsay Soprano (38:50.859) Right? Like just breathe through it. fact, I interviewed somebody yesterday. He's going to be on in actually he's going to be before your episode anyways. He's in meditative arts. And we were talking yesterday when I was recording with them about the breath work and how powerful breathing is. It's so crazy. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (39:05.72) Yes. Yes, I mean literally, it's been seven minutes and you literally do the breathing techniques, know, holding your breath and pushing it out. Yes, exactly. To do something that you do every day. Right, right, And the same thing with grounding, right? You can buy this $5,000 grounding mat that's just amazing and you put your feet on it and... Lyndsay Soprano (39:15.127) Yeah, and we're paying people to go to their breathing workshops. I'm thousands of dollars for somebody else to tell me how to breathe. Like, come on, man. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (39:37.102) You feel the energy flow. Yeah, all right, yeah. Take your socks and shoes off, it's down in the grass. There's your $5,000 mat right there. Boom, right? So it's just so fun. So I'm just trying to people, and then guess what? Water, right? Drink some darn water. And if you hydrate, know. Lyndsay Soprano (39:37.321) Or just go stand in the grass. I don't know. Lyndsay Soprano (39:45.825) I love you Rob so much, my God. Lyndsay Soprano (39:53.911) Hydrate, I don't know, like plants die because they're not watered. If you drink some, maybe you won't die. I do this with my sweetie, he on Diet Coke and iced tea with aspartame. It drives me insane, I know. Rob just covered his face with his hat. I know, I know Rob, I deal with this every day and I'm trying to save him more than I'm trying to save myself and that's also part of my problem. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (40:03.148) yeah. yeah. Don't tell me you're staring me. Yeah. Lyndsay Soprano (40:16.535) But oh my gosh, this has been so fun. I wanna keep talking to you for like the rest of the day for sure. And we can't. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (40:19.394) Yeah. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (40:22.964) I love it. Yeah, I know. I'm so sorry. I'm so excited to be with you. It's a lot of fun. A lot of fun. Lyndsay Soprano (40:27.797) No, don't apologize. I would talk to you for the rest of the day if I had time. Which is also a sign of who you are because there aren't many people in the faith-based community that I trust. Wait, there's zero that I trust. Okay, two people. You and one of my girlfriends lobby. Lobby, I know you're listening. That's it. Everybody else can kind of bite me about it. And so, Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (40:42.186) Right, Okay. Hopefully you have one now. Lyndsay Soprano (40:57.441) For me, this was a good conversation to have on a whole different, on all kinds of different levels. And for those of you that are more like me, right, that are a little apprehensive of faith, specifically when it comes to the Lord Jesus Christ on high, all of that, we all have to have faith in something. And the number one thing that I have to have faith in is myself. And without that, I don't know where I would be. So I start there, at least. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (41:20.408) Yeah. Lyndsay Soprano (41:26.965) I have faith every morning when I wake up that I am not going to jump off a bridge because of pain. That is a faith that I have to do. So you can use faith in all kinds of different ways. You can use that word. You can embrace it the way that you will. But I do believe that we are all here for a purpose. We are all here for a reason. Rob and I are having this conversation together for each other and for you. And I am so happy that you came into my world. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (41:45.196) Amen. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (41:54.402) Yes, I'm so happy that I did as well. And I'm glad I can be one of the two people that you will have a conversation with about your faith. Because I think it's important, right? I really do. like I told you, seven years ago, I hated talking about politics. I hated talking about religion. And I just like, no, no, no. And now that I'm so comfortable in my shoes and who I am. Lyndsay Soprano (42:21.335) Mm-hmm. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (42:21.354) as what God who created me and what he's put me on this earth to do, that I'm comfortable talking about an uncomfortable topic because I'm comfortable in my shoes now and I'm okay with people not agreeing with me. That's okay. You don't have to agree with me. I still love you. I really do. That's what the Lord tells us to do, right? And I really honestly believe that. And so I just want people to understand that we, know, Christians aren't crazy. You may think we are. Lyndsay Soprano (42:49.537) Some of them are, some of them are, but that's everywhere. In every religion, in every group, it doesn't matter what it is, religious or not, there are crazies everywhere. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (42:50.574) Right, some of them are, but there's some in everything. Yeah. There's crazies everywhere. That's exactly right. They can infiltrate anything, it's just an important conversation, right, that I think at some point in life, you know, I feel when I wake up, I really believe that I woke up for a purpose. Like I still have breath in my lungs. Right? God created us. He breathed life into us. And that breath is God's... Lyndsay Soprano (43:03.799) That's exactly right. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (43:20.248) breath, is just fascinating when you research that. And it's like, hey, I'm here for a reason. I'm still alive. There's a reason for me to be here. And so I love your attitude because you're living in a situation where just a lot of people just can't and they have a really hard time getting through it. you wake up and you're like, hey, I have faith in myself. I'm going to make a difference today. I'm going to do my podcast. I'm going to talk to people and I'm going to help others because other people who are struggling are going to listen to you and you're going to be an inspiration of them. like, listen to her laugh, listen to her smile, listen to her having fun, right? Whereas inside, you know that you're in excruciating pain. That's incredible, right? That is so enlightening and helpful for other people. So I just want to lift you up as just thank you for what you do and how you do help people. I think it is very, very important that we have these conversations of life is hard. Life really is difficult. Lyndsay Soprano (44:07.969) Thank you. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (44:19.042) But there's a reason, God is here for us and He can help you through it. And if you want a place to land, can very easily open up the book and you can have a conversation with Him. And it's super easy, right? You don't need to be a part of a church. You don't need to go to a particular place. You can have a direct relationship with God without a church, without a book, without lots of things. You can just have that communication with Him. Anyway, I think it's important for people to understand. Lyndsay Soprano (44:50.815) It is and thank you for saying it in the way that you did and thank you for lifting me up. do appreciate it because I was like, I always cry on every single episode at some point and I'm like, okay, she's going to keep it together. Keep it together right now. But yeah, you don't need to go to big church where everybody's got their hands in the air and makes everybody uncomfortable while you are doing that, by the way. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (45:00.942) You're doing great. Lyndsay Soprano (45:13.719) It's intimidating and all of that and it makes me uncomfortable. I have my own relationship with who I have my own relationship with in the spiritual world and and it is one that I lean on every moment and It might not be exactly the way that my mom intended that relationship to be or my parents to or anybody else But it is mine and it is only mine And I think that that is incredibly important that I don't I don't need all of that I don't need all the all the fanfare Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (45:20.98) All right. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (45:43.074) Right, Lyndsay Soprano (45:43.233) I don't need all of it. don't need bands and churches and palm fronds and everybody dressed in glitter to help me feel better because that doesn't do anything for me, right, specifically. And so I'm glad that you said that about you don't have to go to church. You don't have to do these things. You just have a relationship with your God. And I think that that's really, thank you for saying that, because that affirms me and kind of how I feel about it all too. Yeah. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (45:54.936) Right. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (46:02.785) Yep. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (46:08.11) No, think that's important, right? I really do. And I think that you at some point, you may grow into a much more faithful person than you ever think, right? You may not, but that's okay. That's your path. Right, there you go. I love it. I love it. Well, I think it's... Yeah, there's lots of that, right? I am excited that you're reading the prayer guide and it is fascinating. is... Lyndsay Soprano (46:16.791) Absolutely, yeah, hey, doors are open, I'm not shutting them. I just wish God was a little nicer to us sometimes. Yeah, yeah. Lyndsay Soprano (46:33.204) my gosh, I can't even believe I'm doing it, buddy. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (46:35.918) super fascinating what you said about it though, that you read that verse, you're like, oh my gosh, it actually applies to a situation that I'm in, which is, that's what's so cool about when I read the Bible, it's like, I'm reading the Bible, it's about a conversation about a topic that happened thousands of years ago, but it applies to me today. And it's a living word where the Lord literally communicates with you as you're reading the word and you're thinking things, you're like, where did that come from? Right? And it didn't come from your probably mind. It didn't come from the book. It came from God talking to you. That happens. It really does. I'm not going say it all the time, but it just, it is a living word. And it's really fascinating when you start living that way. And I'm having a blast because I'm doing what he's asking me to do and I'm stepping out in faith and I'm just going to continue to do it. And I believe that he's going to bless me and honor me for doing that. And I'm just praying I make a little bit of difference in this world. And so when I do meet him at the end of my life that he says well done good and faithful servant because That's what drives me every day Yeah, could be and could you it could be it could be I won't I won't agree with you there, but that's we can agree to disagree Lyndsay Soprano (47:38.603) And he's a she, by the way. Lyndsay Soprano (47:48.139) Damn men, always gotta be on top, don't ya? my gosh, it has been nothing but wonderful hanging out with you today. How can we find you? How can we become Exodus strong and pain free with you? Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (47:57.462) Yes. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (48:01.91) Yeah. So Exodusstrong.com is the simplest way to get ahold of me, you know, through that, that organization that says I live and breathe that every day. then biohackingville.com is going to be our new community that we're just, we're just building out. I'm re rebranding my podcast and we're rebranding a TV show that my brother's working on and it's going to be, it's going to be really fascinating to. to bring a collection of people together. There's already people out there that are doing things and I'm just gonna try to bring them into a community of people that are going to try to help each other, right? Like if you're an expert in breathing techniques like your friend yesterday, right? I want him on there talking about how to talk about meditation and breathing techniques. I want that information out there. I want people to understand how to get that. And I wanna have a place where it's gathered and collected and people can search for it and find it and... and there's going to be really helpful information for people. So super excited about it. Lyndsay Soprano (48:58.167) I love it and I'm absolutely and everybody knows this isn't my jam, but I am throwing you out there, baby. I am anything you'd like to leave our listeners with before we hit the dusty trail here. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (49:05.358) I appreciate it. I appreciate it. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (49:13.014) Yeah, I just want to thank you for having me on the show again. I believe I'm here for a reason and I believe that you're listening to this episode for a reason and the God created you to do something today. You have to have breath in your lungs and it's not over. And there's lots of things for you to be able to do and you can make a big impact on this world just one person at a time. And if you want healthy products from a healthy solution, know, Welcome to try our products. If you have other products that you'd like me to understand and get, know, let me know about them. And, you know, if you like biohacking topics, we're going to have an amazing place for you to be. If you like faith topics, we're going to have a faith component of that area. Right. If you like oncology and integrative oncology, we're going have a discussion there because I cancer is just a super big important part of our world. And I want it to be part of the discussion where people have resources to go to. So like when your dad had that spreadsheet, you know, I want to have that spreadsheet on there for everybody that to look and find and see the things that they need to do to be well and be healthy without the white coat. Lyndsay Soprano (50:20.043) Yeah, and he's a total geek and he turned me into one. So, you know, that's what we do. Thanks, Dad, we love you. my gosh. Thank you so much for being here and spending time with me again. This was this was a conversation that is none other than hanging out with you, buddy. I am so grateful to have have met you. Thank you so much. Yeah, you too. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (50:23.778) There you go. I love it. Thank you, Dad. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (50:39.604) I a lot of fun, a of fun. I really, really appreciate you a lot. God bless you. All right, thank you. Lyndsay Soprano (50:46.497) So before we jam here, guys, I have a new bite-sized extension of the pain game podcast called Pain Bites, right? So all you gotta do is you gotta go to Instagram and go to my bio, into the bio, and there's a link there. And you can upload a voice note to me that talks about whatever cracked you open this week, what stitched you back together, what moment made you unravel or reminded you why you keep fighting. I want your chaos, I want your aches, I want your pains, I want it all because you have a voice and I would love to share it for you and help you through it and be a champion for you as well. So go ahead to Instagram, go to the bio and click on it and upload it. It's easy, it's anonymous, so don't you worry about it at all. I just wanna help share your stories one little bite at a time because they're super important. You are exclusively invited to share this Exodus Strong VIP journey together. Let's get to the heart of how to heal with you and Rob by my side. Please follow The Pain Game podcast wherever you digest your podcast content. We will be there. Visit us at thepaingamepodcast.com and follow us on all the socials. Thanks for listening, my little VIPs. Catch you on the other side. Lyndsay Soprano (52:09.281) And that's how we do it here at the. Rob Rene - Exodus Strong (52:10.382) Boom!