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Indycar Music City GP 2026 | Push to Cash Betting Preview · Apex Insiders Podcast

• f1capper: Welcome back to Apex Insiders push to cash. We are at Nashville. We got another oval upon us. It's been a couple weeks since our last race. So here we are guys. We got another oval. How are we feeling? iN8Rodgers: Good? You know I I I love an oval. @Indybet: I'm Nipet Pansky again. Let's go. f1capper: That's I mean, that's the only thing I could think of on my mind is Pinsky's been miserable to back in any way, shape, form. But when you get to oval, it's like bring him back in. Doors open. Here we are. So ⁓ I am very interested, very interested to see. @Indybet: We can re We can hit rewind. I told you guys not to pass up the gift of Joseph. Are we gonna you guys gonna pass it again? Am I gonna make all the money again? Are we gonna we'll see. We'll talk about it after Nate's preview, I assume. f1capper: Yeah, yeah, we will actually. Yeah, well, let's let's kick that off. Nate, what do you got for us in the preview? iN8Rodgers: ⁓ y yeah, not a whole lot. ⁓ 'cause we're just you know, IndyCar used to race here but they've returned and it's just kind of a two year history and so ⁓ it you know, with with ovals anyway, you know, you don't really lean into the the data as much as how difficult it it can be to pass and kinda where the starters you know, where where the winners start from and things like that because I think you just want to find your your strongest drivers, people that you could trust. ⁓ you kinda wanna look at how practice is going if someone stands out that way, like maybe a war did last year here or Andretti a couple of years ago, ⁓ or or Penske in general, you know that and that's kind of where it will end up going most likely but ⁓ this is the second largest oval track on the calendar but in its size even though it's called a super speedway it's a lot closer to ⁓ gateway in phoenix in size than it would be to the to IMS ⁓ they've upped the laps on this all the way up to 300 laps and last year there was already four stops in a 225 lap race and so the stents of Aren't seventy-five laps, so I think we could be seeing six pit stops on this, which would be more than we see in the Indy five hundred. ⁓ I I'm kinda I'd be interested to hear why they're ex they're making this race so long. ⁓ that that's a lot of stops and you're really gonna lean on your pit crews in that because ⁓ you know, mistakes could hurt, but you know, that's just gonna give people time. You know, the best cars, the cream of the crop is gonna rise. we'll see some people maybe get unlucky and lucky in the same race and things like that. It's gonna be a long race, a lot's gonna happen. there's that big bump in turn two that the ⁓ the the speedway just kind of leaves out there for fun I guess that really sends these cars kind of flying sometimes ⁓ just almost in the air or in the wall. ⁓ and there there is a couple lanes of racing that you can get great side by side racing. If you think about last year Pelone Award went right next to each other for like 10 laps and Simpson and McLaughlin had another like five to ten lap stretch where they went side by side fighting for the podium and so if the track is clear of the the spent rubber ⁓ you can get some really really good racing and ⁓ yeah that's exciting. I actually just bought ⁓ tickets today to go to this race so I'm gonna sit in the 90 degree heat and and watch the cars go round and round. f1capper: ⁓ Very nice. Well, congrats. When are you going for the whole, I guess it's only on Saturday and Sunday. So you're going to be there for all the sessions or? iN8Rodgers: No, I'm just gonna head out ⁓ Sunday. It's just a four hour drive, so then I'll stay stay the night and come back Monday, so just ⁓ make a day out of it. Watch they're doing a a World Cup f1capper: ⁓ that's not bad at all. Nice. @Indybet: Yeah, the the track's nowhere near the fun. I mean you're not it's nowhere it's nowhere near all the Nashville fun and and ⁓ brides and maids parties and ⁓ etcetera etcetera. Not like not like it used to be when it used to be across the bridge there with and through through the streets. But ⁓ I'll tell you why they're making it longer. They're hoping that people just keep their TVs on Fox after the World Cup final and they get a huge rating and they just have IndyCar on for a couple hours. People just, you know, are drunk after their soccer match. iN8Rodgers: Yeah. Yeah, that's right, yeah. @Indybet: They're probably really hoping England made it, but that just didn't happen now. But still, you got two billion people watching the World Cup final. What we should be able to bet on, maybe we have side bet, over under IndyCar commercials during the World Cup final before the race. Or even better, does the race have to start before the World Cup final ends? That's another good one. We'll have to see what kind of cluster happens last. f1capper: God. ⁓ Well, I was just about to look up what time the race starts and we know like give it about 15, 20 minutes after they say, so they said 5.30 Eastern. I think it's actually gonna just start, know, World Cup will be finished by the time they will start. iN8Rodgers: Yeah, I think they said they're gonna hold it and but but I think you're right, Mike, they probably looked at IndyCar's gonna go to commercial Yeah, I th I think Yeah. But they're @Indybet: Well Dude, World Cup starts at three. That game goes into extras, PK, some you know, soccer players, they lay on the floor for a while. f1capper: But it's about, it would be like 5.15, 5.30 max before like things would end. And then there would be like the celebration crap that they're gonna do, which everyone hates right now. So. iN8Rodgers: ⁓ they said they're gonna hold it, so I think we c as as people, as as I'm there, I think I could be sitting there just waiting. They're gonna have a watch party at the track and then they're not starting the race I guess until it's wrapped up, so they're @Indybet: Look, the game today started at three and it ended at like five, just a little after five. And it had and it did not go to extra time. It did not go to PK's. It l ended in the in the you know the ninety. f1capper: or also. Just a little bit after, yeah. I also think it's just they wanted to try to match what like NASCAR does and you know they have the 400, the 500 or whatever they have, but they have the 399 miles because that's what it's at. It's not 400, it's 399. Oh, had to yes. iN8Rodgers: Yeah. Yeah, and I think @Indybet: Yeah, it's all money. I mean look, I hope I hope Indicar I hope IndyCar gets some pub. I hope everybody, you know, that bets on wins money on Spain ⁓ can ⁓ at least that's where my money f1capper: I will be honest with you guys, I've been rooting for Argentina the entire time. So I've been very, very silent about it. And I know they crushed the dreams of the English, but... @Indybet: ⁓ they got so lucky. I lost a big survival pool that I was at the very end of today on that. I needed England. But anyhow, ⁓ But anyways, back I digress. So hopefully it'd be good for Indy Carr. We'll get a bunch of a bunch of views. ⁓ but look I like Nate said, in terms of betting this race for me, man, it it's it it's go back to the Oval Style. Like I'm not gonna bet a ton pre-calls. I know my guys that I want. ⁓ you know, I I'm gonna put a little bit of money on Joseph at three to one. f1capper: Yeah, yeah. @Indybet: Maybe quarter, half unit. haven't quite decided. I'm gonna put a little bit of money on Pato. I saw five to one on Hard Rock. I think Caesars is a little less than that. Four to one, five to one range. And then I'm gonna hope that they qualify like six through ten. And maybe Joseph I he probably doesn't move much, but maybe Pato goes to six or seven to one and I can re-up because ⁓ qualifying's not obviously we know I think the last two winners are six and ninth, right, Nate? If you correct me wrong. So Whatever you qualify in the top ten, you're fine if you've got a fast car. ⁓ especially in this longer race. ⁓ I want the bigger teams in this longer race. ⁓ I guarantee we're gonna have some engine fails or something mechanical is gonna happen for three hundred and ninety-nine miles because they made it longer and have all these pit stops. So I don't wanna mess with the small teams, which kinda puts me off gets me off of Christian Rasmussen a little bit. I don't know if I trust Ed Carpenter to do so five or six pit stops racing. ⁓ but like so it's Pato and it's Joseph. Those are my short old little guys. Normally I'd throw McLaughlin in there, but he's been off I I'm I I'm kind of we're getting off that train I think this year for whatever reason. Malukas is his replacement, so he's a maybe, but ⁓ but I'm gonna stick with those two. Very small and must save most of my my bets for Sunday after I get to see some practice and And I'm looking for like the strong guys that are in practice to qualify five through ten, four through s eight, and then maybe get a better number or the same number they're at now and hammer ⁓ f1capper: Yeah, I mean, it's the books have it priced the way you've just described it, which is not, I'm not overthinking this to your point, big teams, right? You got now a longer race. all about strategy, ECR. don't trust them to see, yeah, like it's easy to fall into that trap, right? I don't even, I'm trying to look for Rassman. He's only 14 to one. Like, do you really want to take that on right now? You can, is it, is it worth your time? Maybe. @Indybet: It was a two fifty Mile in her or two hundred, I don't know, one of those like maybe. f1capper: Maybe, but like even then like to your I I totally agree. ⁓ The only other probably add to this where I would like to add to your pato or Joseph is just maluchis. That's it. Like give me maluchis. I'm more More so him over pato. ⁓ I actually don't trust pato the shocker. ⁓ Yeah, I mean he's been fine at ovals, but I just don't when you have a guy like Joseph New Garden, Maloukis, you got Palo now that has entered the chat. It's just made it harder for him to try to win at these ovals. that's probably the... @Indybet: He's back in my good places after last week. I I made quite a bit of units on him last week with my top three and a win. So f1capper: Yeah, yeah, which was a great, great move, right? And I think probably the one thing I am eyeing is Maluchis in the top three. I want to try to, I think that the podium play is a good play for him. But it's just the number, I'm just looking at 365 right now. It's at plus 135. That doesn't really get me all excited, but at the same time. @Indybet: Yeah, so like if he qualifies, he's gonna have to qualify first, second, or third, or even first or second only, for that to get any worse. So you might as well hope he qualifies fifth or six, and maybe he goes plus two, it goes two to one or two twenty. And then, yeah, then I think if he's shown pace in practice or Penske's shown pace, you know he's gonna pit well. Yeah, like he's been he's been hot, he's been a top three machine. Like I can get behind that, but I think the strategy is is obviously. f1capper: Exactly, exactly. And if we have Joseph Nart... Exactly. @Indybet: Weight ⁓ f1capper: Yeah. The only thing I'll say about McLaren and like they just looked like a machine the last race. They really did. The whole team just looked like a machine. So I'm very interested to see do they carry some momentum? Now we're at an oval. Like they've, they, it's, seems like every car was in lockstep in the last race. So that just can show you, wasn't just a driver thing. It was also the team. The team was actually doing really well. They had something there. Can they carry that over into this race? in an oval. So that's where I'm going to be watching. I'm not saying like go back any one of them. I'm just just as a pulse to see like, are they going to compete with the the Penske's here? Are they going to compete with the Ganassi's here? The other only team like we have out there is ⁓ the MSR, Meier Schenck. Like what are they going to do here? Are they going to actually be ⁓ competitors to those teams? And in Inj Ready, ⁓ not too high on them here. So that's just not my focus. iN8Rodgers: I yeah, I guess I'll just step in with s kind of some of my thoughts that I've had. I mean normally I I would have like seven or eight units loaded pre qualifying until I play it, but there's just not much there. I think the books have kinda done a good job ⁓ of setting the favorites and there's just not a t a ton of value. But when I look at Malucas, I I kind of am leaning I like his numbers now because he is more prone to qualifying better as opposed to like Joseph where like you know he's gonna be good in the race, but Joseph isn't like a pole guy normally where Malucas has been doing that Or very close to it. ⁓ As far as Pado, last year he was by far the class of the field of this race. He led the first session, he qualified on pole, he led every lap in the race up until he had a tire failure ⁓ over halfway through the race. ⁓ but then I I'm I am a little hesitant because I think they've taken a slight step backward on ovals this year. ⁓ and Dreddy, this is probably their best oval by far. ⁓ Kirkwood got pole two years ago and him and Hurta were just Basically, like trading her ended up winning two years ago. ⁓ and then herta last year drove to the front of the field. Kirkwood was a little quiet, but I think he still finished maybe top five or something. ⁓ they qualified a little further back than they did two years ago. I think the field kind of caught up to them. ⁓ I would actually put MSR behind Andretti in this race, as far as kind of where I'm looking at these tiers. ⁓ and then lastly with Pelow, he he's looked really good here. I think the ⁓ when the ovals get a little Larger, that's where he gets a little better at the ovals, like Indy, you would say is his best oval, and he still quite hasn't quite figured out the smaller ovals. But ⁓ last year he had a super fast car, and but he was terrible in traffic. ⁓ when he was running up front, like I mentioned, he went side by side with Pado for a long time, real competitive, real strong. But the second he falls back or gets into lap traffic, he couldn't pass like ⁓ you know back markers. you know, he still got a podium out of the deck. Day, but ⁓ at one point McLaughlin and Newgarden ran away and Pillow was stuck ⁓ behind lap cars for maybe 20 plus laps and he never got around them until a caution came and they they got the wave around. And so that that's just kind of where I'm I've been thinking with everybody is that that I have like these pros and cons with everyone back and forth of kind of where I'm deciding, but ⁓ to wrap it up I I I'm kind of I am gonna take Joseph at some point. I might do it now. I just I just found a 350. ⁓ that I think looks obviously a little better than the three to one. And then I I found a Malucas at 550 that I think I'm gonna put a little money on. ⁓ and I'll I'll probably look for some podiums after that. ⁓ and then lastly I found a matchup with Ferrucci over Ray Hall at minus one fifty on bet 365 I did ⁓ basically to win half a unit, ⁓ just kind of with my limits, but ⁓ yeah, I'm definitely not too big on Ray Hall here and AJ Foyt looked decent. f1capper: Yeah, I agree with that one. I will definitely be on the FAY train with RLL. Definitely agree like AJ is going to be the team that beats them. I'm trying to pull that the matchups up, but I do like that perspective though that you are bringing up. I mean, in general, I mean, it's hard to not want to like focus on Palo, but you know, for fact that, you know, this is going to be an interesting race overall, like you guys have said. We don't, we're kind of in uncharted territories a little bit with it being longer in terms of the track being what, 300 laps we said. So ⁓ we don't know what we're getting into, technically speaking, with strategy. And that's going to be, you're just going to find that as being the luck factor for a driver or a team is like, they are just going to find a way to maximize through the strategy. ⁓ So yeah, I'm kind of with just the wait and see. I'm on the same page with you guys. Like I do want to just nail some Joseph New Garden now if I can find a three to one right now. I do have a plus 325 so I just was checking BetUS so I am considering that. It's hard not to. ⁓ But yeah, I think. @Indybet: I he's gonna to qualify top five, which Nate Mc he has not he does not qualify well. Never does. Any anywhere. ⁓ you know, and then with the Pelow, like Pelow's the giant fade for on Ovals because it's not that he's not fast, I think he drives for the championship. So whereas Newgar, Joseph, and those guys, like they will they will lay it out there a little, ⁓ they'll push their shoulders and their elbows out. f1capper: Yeah. @Indybet: Whereas Polo just won't do that. So when he gets in traffic, he he will not make he will not take a risk. ⁓ he will not go high. I don't think I I can't remember how high and it's funny because anytime I remember him taking a high pass, he's been like some some idiots put him in the wall ⁓ or done something to him. So I think Yeah, I think he's gun shy. It's happened before. It happened last season as well, if I recall. But that's why he's just smart. He's just like, I don't need to win the race. He knows I can just come in top five and like f1capper: That was in Phoenix. Yeah. @Indybet: coast to this title and I'll take my I'll take my title and I don't need to the only oval I care about is the five hundreds. That's how I think he thinks. And how that's how I think he races. So which for me means, you know, don't bet him ⁓ on these tracks. So I just don't think he's got the it's not that he he's I'm not gonna say he's too chicken to drive the ovals. I think he's smart. That's all. He just knows that I don't need to win these things. f1capper: Well, and it makes sense because in the Indy 500, he's gonna definitely take that risk because it's the Indy 500 versus like other ovals, you know, like you said, right? Yeah, exactly, exactly. @Indybet: Right. Right. What matters? Five hundreds and championships. iN8Rodgers: Yeah. I mean if you look ⁓ that Milwaukee race last year was the first time I'd ever seen him. I mean he led almost the whole race and he was carving up the field as far as getting through traffic. I'd never seen him drive like that, but then a few weeks later they come to this Nashville race. I just rewatched it the whole thing this week and it was like glaringly bad of how much he would get stuck and it that's just kinda weird for how good his car is. It's like I think you're right, I think he does drive safe, but then it's ⁓ like you know, he had the championship wrapped up at that point last year for the finale of this race and and you know he still just wasn't able he wasn't willing to do it I guess. @Indybet: Yeah, so maybe he is chicken shit. I don't know. Maybe he doesn't want to put it. Maybe he's afraid to put it in the wall at a high speed. Who knows? But ⁓ yeah, look, I think we pretty much got it nailed down. I think it's gonna be we gotta listen to what these drivers say with the new tire rule and the long the long stints. So pay attention to practice. ⁓ pay attention, you know, just put it on the background, watch watch both watch the nighttime. Because I think this race is gonna be in the nighttime or close to it. iN8Rodgers: Yeah. @Indybet: ⁓ after the World Cup, if especially if it goes extras. ⁓ I can't wait to see what a cluster that becomes. But yeah, so I think we we kinda wait and see. We know the guys we want to bet and and then we look for some matchups. I saw one intriguing prop that I thought was interesting. It was minus one hundred forty, I think, on Caesars, ⁓ winning car number under ten and a half. The only There wasn't too many cars that really worried me above that. And l ⁓ if you think Andretti's gonna do well, probably not a good bet. But if you want to fade the Andretti cars, you know, 'cause Kirkwood, power, all above that. But if you go below that, you get all the Penske cars. ⁓ you get all of the ⁓ cars in in ⁓ McLaren that matter. ⁓ you get Dixon, you get Pelow. I don't know. I thought that was fun. f1capper: It's at minus 160 right now. iN8Rodgers: Yeah, I mean it yeah, it gives me a little pause with not having Malucas in that, but yeah. Yeah. @Indybet: ⁓ so there you go. Market moving. Yeah, I mean minus one sixty. ⁓ I don't know. Pair it with ⁓ your World Cup winner. I don't know. But ⁓ if you're looking for a little fun action, I lean to the fave on that end. I think I think you get I ha I would price that at like minus two something. f1capper: Yeah, I didn't realize they had all these ⁓ different odds going on here. Checking it out. Yeah, I got some, some, some. Yeah. @Indybet: They got they got Caesars got some stupid shit. Like the Caesars has like odd and even cars in the top ten. I'm like I'm like I'm even going I'm not even worth my time to hand out this. f1capper: It's, it's, I don't think you can, and some of these are like just, I mean, not worth it. Like some of these are just not, yeah, no, I, Yeah, that one is, I wish it was a little bit, wasn't so juiced. ⁓ Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. @Indybet: Yeah, I think it's fair if you're looking to have fun. I mean, look, it's better than betting if you if you're gonna looking to have some fun after a couple of beers on Sunday, ⁓ and you are thinking about betting odd and even car numbers in the top ten, just go bet minus ten and a half car winner, number winner. That's I feel like that's a better recommendation for people. We'll see what happens. f1capper: Yeah, what about the matchups? For some reason, BAT365 just keeps saying this page is no longer available to me ⁓ outside of the one that you mentioned. iN8Rodgers: I can Yeah, I can call him out. ⁓ @Indybet: I couldn't find any, so iN8Rodgers: ⁓ they have Lungard and Rosenquist, but ⁓ Rosenquist all the way at minus one eighty. So a lot of these are like right now at like minus one eighty and things like that. So it's they're almost unplayable already. ⁓ I think a lot @Indybet: You should make Cap and I guess who the favorite is. I w we both would have said Rosen because go ahead, what's next? f1capper: Yeah, yeah. iN8Rodgers: Newgarden and Pelot. And there's a ⁓ minus one hundred eighty in that already. Yeah. ⁓ you got Ericsson and Rossi with another minus one eighty in there. ⁓ might be a little f1capper: New garden. @Indybet: What was the other side of that plus what? For Rossi? f1capper: What? iN8Rodgers: One forty. Yeah. f1capper: That doesn't even sound appealing at Rossi's angle to a plus one 40. iN8Rodgers: ECR's just not quite been as good here as they have, you know, in in the way they looked at Phoenix or Gateway. ⁓ awarded Malucas with a minus one sixty. Just Malucas favored there. @Indybet: Wow. And ⁓ what f1capper: Malukis. @Indybet: What's the old word? How plum was one twenty? f1capper: That's juiced, man. That is really juiced. iN8Rodgers: Yeah, these are all rough. ⁓ awards at plus one twenty five. f1capper: Damn, if that was at plus 140, I would be like, let's maybe talk about patto. iN8Rodgers: ⁓ @Indybet: Yeah, if they if they want to eat even Steven on both sides, then sure. f1capper: ⁓ yeah, for sure. iN8Rodgers: ⁓ Ferrucci and Ray Hall, which I think we ⁓ that's already moved to ⁓ minus one I got minus one fifty, it's moved to minus one eighty on Ferrucci's side. ⁓ Dixon and Rasmussen, won minus one ten and minus one twenty there. Slight slight edge to Rasmussen. f1capper: Alex? I would... ugh... I would lean Dixon. I'd lean Dixon. Yeah. @Indybet: Dixon's got good history here. Th that like he's got history from like a decade ago. iN8Rodgers: Yeah. ⁓ power and Kirkwood with a minus one seventy on that. f1capper: Oof. Wow. @Indybet: Parkwood. iN8Rodgers: Kirkwoods, the one plus one thirty five on power, which f1capper: That's a little disrespectful to power. iN8Rodgers: Yeah, they're a lot cl I would say they're a lot closer to even. @Indybet: Yeah, I might I might I lean power there. If I had to bet f1capper: That's a little... I would be... That's power territory now. @Indybet: Agree. iN8Rodgers: He was good here. ⁓ last year he'd he nearly he pulled up to the front and then he had a pit issue. @Indybet: But I saw how f1capper: And I hate backing the guy because you don't know what you're getting out of him, but that's just now be getting disrespectful. iN8Rodgers: Yeah. @Indybet: I don't I don't get the whole Kirkwood's the second best driver in the series pub that every that seems to get pushed. Like I'm not there. f1capper: I mean, I listen I'm with you like I don't think he's a bad driver by all means I think that's where people like get up in arms about it And maybe it's the pillow effect, you know, we are watching pillow dominate and we're not seeing it but like in general like he he's @Indybet: It's not like Kirkwood's chasing Pillow every race. He he does well on streetcare. f1capper: I mean, I've seen more from Lundgaard this year than I have from Kirkwood and it looked like Kirkwood was gonna be the man of the year after Arlington. He's just, he's had his moments, he's looked good, but he just hasn't, he hasn't pushed enough to get there. Maybe it's the car, we don't know. @Indybet: It's too bad we can't bet the championship without Pelow Market, like who's gonna come in second third, 'cause I w that would have been something after like Long Beach or I I'd be Hamrin or Detroit, I'd be hammering, you know, Malucas or Pato or one any somebody else, Longard, ⁓ to to come kid. 'Cause I think Kirkwood just kinda's gonna fade these last couple. He might win Washington. f1capper: I mean, you don't have to tell me that I was the guy that was screaming under two and a half wins at the beginning of the year. @Indybet: Yeah, I still got that sitting in my account. It still star it stares me in sometimes it's the only ⁓ upcoming live beta's still sitting there just staring at me and f1capper: I was getting some flack too from ⁓ Mech and a few other people in the discord about it. I don't know who else but someone was and I was like, no, I'm on the under on that one. I don't think he's gonna get those two and a halfs. It's just too competitive too. more, it wasn't more of just him as much as like, Palo is dominating. It's a competitive front. ⁓ And then the assumption is Penske back. If they are, that makes it even worse for him. So. @Indybet: I have that parlayed in like an eight legger with like eight women's Olympic sports. They all hit it, so f1capper: So it's gonna take so now you're just waiting till was it September when the season ends @Indybet: ⁓ yeah, yeah. I just waiting for that. I don't know what I have to I'll have to look to see what I I'll let you know what I have that up to or I I got that up to, but yeah, him and the Dixon. I mean the futures are looking strong, knock on wood. ⁓ to have a really good year with Dixon being a nice nice big chunk of change heading into football season. So we'll see how that plays out. ⁓ hopefully this is this is one of my other Dixon maybe worries me tracks 'cause of his history, but not really sweating. f1capper: Yeah. Well, I mean, we still have one to give, so it's okay. I'm not worried at all about the under one and a half, one bit. Well, let's transition to grid rival, because this is my first time actually taking a look this weekend at anything. I should have been, I kinda got distracted there with F1 for a second. Let's see. I mean, it's all this kinda in line, except four and a half for Palo, I mean. @Indybet: Yeah, we'll see. f1capper: You have a two and a half for New Garden, Kirkwood six and a half, Paddow's three and a half. I almost want to go back to the well with McLaughlin under or over six or five and a half. I think like take that worse with Scott. He's just not been the same this year. Although he didn't do too bad at WWT. So he got fifth thinking about it. iN8Rodgers: He's kinda been stuck this year too. Him and Pato, ⁓ they've been qualifying fine and they've been like decently good cars, not like bad, but they just get stuck compared to someone like Moluccis or Newgarden. f1capper: Mm-hmm. ⁓ Ceiling number for Pato is there though at three and a half. Like I can only look worse at three and a half to be honest with you. I know he's gonna be strong, but worse on him is like where my mind is going. Lungard at 10 and a half is interesting, but I kinda don't wanna mess with the guy that's a hot hand right now, know? ⁓ Hard to wanna mess with that. Let's see, Felix nine and a half, Marcus eight and a half. Rossi 10 1 1 2, Ferrucci 12 1 2, Ras 8 1 2, Ericsson 9 1 2, Simpson 15 1 2, Rahal 14 1 2, Collette 16 1 2, Robb 20 1 2, Hauger 18 1 2, Grosjean 18 1 2, VK 14 1 2, Siegel 16 1 Foster 17 1 2, Schumacher 18 1 2, and then Dixon 7 1 2. @Indybet: I like Foster worse. I like all the Ray Hall drivers worse, but he's got iN8Rodgers: Yeah. f1capper: I was gonna say 14 and a half horse for a Rayhaw looks great. @Indybet: I wish I could put all of them together, but it won't let you. But ⁓ I think I like Foster better than Schumacher worse. I don't know, both of those I'd be fine with I just need something to pair it with that's not maybe Hauger or I how did Collette do? How f1capper: I kind of want to do Colette better, but I'm also not sure if I'm just buying into. @Indybet: Not sure how how's Colette Nate you remember how Colette's done this year on the ovals? f1capper: Well, on the last oval, he was 22nd worldwide. iN8Rodgers: ⁓ I could pull it up real quick. But that race he was he was actually really good and then ⁓ his car failed or s f1capper: I Yeah, that's why I want to take him better is because he's actually hasn't been too bad recently, especially in the last, I mean, he's hit his number every time he's been at least P 16 or better. So I kind of like this. You know what? I already talked myself into it. I'm doing Ray Hall worse 14 and a half and Collette better 16 and a half. @Indybet: He's caught yeah. iN8Rodgers: Yeah. If Ferrucci was pretty good here last year. Malucas was good here last year when he was a Foyt. So the Foyt had the Foyt team had good cars here. and this will be his third, well his fourth oval to kinda have that figured out. I I I like that as well I think. f1capper: I'm doing, I already did it, it's in. Doesn't have to be the pod play if we all wanna do a pod play one. I just like this one. @Indybet: I'm good with that. I'm also gonna pair the collet I'll pair co I'm gonna do one collette with Foster worse and one collette with Ray All worse. f1capper: might actually do a three card with that one. I'll temper, I do wanna do that three card. That's the one I like. I won't get cute with the others, but I do think the Pato three and a half is, we're getting there. We're getting there. I think that is a ceiling number in terms of just grid rival, just numbers and overall. That's a tough, tough spot. Like when you're talking about top three, you got Maluchis, you got Joseph New Garden. Insert anyone that is strong, Palo, what if Dixon shows up, strategy, know, something can happen. It's gonna be pretty tight, so. iN8Rodgers: Yeah, I'll be interested with 'cause I mean he was by far faster in qualifying by like almost over a mile per hour on the whole field, but ⁓ he was one of the people that had a tire failure and there was others in the weekend and I think that might be another reason why they're extending the race is that they ⁓ almost know that Firestone's coming in really conservative, which then might really extend the like there might be like no drop off on these. So we could see a little bit of a mix up of just ⁓ you know, what teams had the last couple of years with these tires of how Firestone's gonna try to Answer for the failures. f1capper: Yeah, yeah, that's gonna be interesting. I will not be around for the race actually, unfortunately, so I'm gonna have to catch up on it afterwards. @Indybet: What if it starts at like seven PM? f1capper: I would miss a little bit of it if it started at seven. Wait, actually, hold on. It's 5.30 Eastern. Actually, I might be able to catch most of it. I just won't be able to catch the end. Unfortunately, I won't not be able to. I got a hockey game at 6 p.m. Central, so that's 7 p.m. Eastern. @Indybet: mean this this feels like one of those hit record and start an hour later and f1capper: ⁓ That's exactly what I do. Sometimes with these things, if they start late night, I record it and I make sure I have my phone on Do Not Disturb because just everything on Twitter to Discord is going crazy. There's always a few people though via text that will message me. like, damn it, man. Why did you say something? So I have to be careful with that. @Indybet: Yep, me too. Right. So the only the only thing that sucks about that is you can't I've had some good live hits on Cal She and Coinbase prediction markets, watching the races live this year and it's mainly been on the ovals where ⁓ you know, if you're watching and you know how the racing and the tires go and you know what you're looking at, you know better than some of those markets and and you can be quicker than them. So I've ⁓ I you know, I That makes me wanna try to watch things live and and ⁓ be quick and p and we'll put it out there in the Discord. Usually Discord first, X second, ⁓ as fast as you can if you see things, but it does there are opportunities, especially in these longer races, to you know, the grab those markets as they go. so that's the only thing that about that's the only thing that you know, but I do enjoy the fast forward plan as f1capper: Yeah, it's so unfortunate like that's a few races that were ovals because I agree with you 100 % on on cal she with that i'm just not going to be around for for myself to attack so Unfortunately will not be able to Yeah, any last thoughts? question or ⁓ Inputs or anything like that. It's gonna say questions @Indybet: Good luck. iN8Rodgers: Just yeah, it's a weird one for me not having so many bets loaded, but we'll see how it plays out. f1capper: Hey, you know what, sometimes it's about quality, not the quantity. yeah. Yeah, so Saturday, I think all the action starts. I believe it's just gonna be one practice and then straight into qualifying and then a warmup or final practice and then the race the next day. So, see you guys in the Discord. iN8Rodgers: Yeah, I'm not forcing nothing here.