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The Joe Theismann Show with Stugotz · Stugotz and Company

• 0:09
  Speaker 1: We are live at the American Century Championship, right off
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  Speaker 1: the driving range, the great Joe Thaisman and still the
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  Speaker 1: most handsome man here. I don't know how many years
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  Speaker 1: have you been here, You're still the most handsome thirty
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  Speaker 1: six thirty six years.
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  Speaker 2: Came here when I was ten. It's unbelievable. By the way,
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  Speaker 2: it's nice for you to come back. I mean, I'm
• 0:24
  Speaker 2: in sitting here. Most people ask you to do interviews.
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  Speaker 3: People must still comes up and say, hey, Joe, you
• 0:29
  Speaker 3: got time to come and sit with Sure, no problem
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  Speaker 3: over here.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just gonna go hit a few balls, he say.
• 0:34
  Speaker 3: Our guys are going to take a little bit of
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  Speaker 3: a break come back. So I'm sitting here and we're
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  Speaker 3: doing our home show. Actually it's the Joe Thaisman Show.
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  Speaker 2: Is dull good. Yes, we just really wanted to let
• 0:43
  Speaker 2: everybody know that he's here.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 4: So how long have you played in this tournam you
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  Speaker 4: want to ask me some question?
• 0:47
  Speaker 2: How long have you played in this tournament?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I've been coming here for about a decade.
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  Speaker 1: I only played twice, and I only played in the program.
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  Speaker 4: And I have to be honest.
• 0:54
  Speaker 1: I was upset that Trey Wingo was invited to play,
• 0:57
  Speaker 1: and I wasn't.
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  Speaker 3: It's a little bit like Philip Rivers getting the job
• 1:00
  Speaker 3: as a quarterback. All those other guys are sitting on
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  Speaker 3: the sidelines and what are we.
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  Speaker 1: Chopping levery It's like Anderson Cooper.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if you saw this.
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  Speaker 1: He was live on TV and he had realized that
• 1:09
  Speaker 1: George Stepanopolis was invited to the Kelsey wedding and he wasn't.
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  Speaker 2: Well, hey, it's great to have you back. Well, thank you, Joe.
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  Speaker 5: Joe, do not tempt Stu Gotts with this because he
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  Speaker 5: will turn the show into the jo I will.
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  Speaker 4: That's my dream? You kidding me, Joe?
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  Speaker 1: Where else could you be other than Lake Tahoe for
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  Speaker 1: this tournament? Where you're on the drive you joth Eisman's
• 1:31
  Speaker 1: on the driving range, You're right next to Larry David,
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  Speaker 1: Sean McDonough and then Larry David and Gary Sheffield just
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  Speaker 1: break out in conversation.
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  Speaker 4: It's an amazing place.
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  Speaker 3: Gary, Vince Coleman's he's back this year.
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  Speaker 2: I said to Larry, I said, how did your round
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  Speaker 2: go this morning?
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  Speaker 3: Horrible? Yes, it was one word horrible? Yes, Hi, Well
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  Speaker 3: nice nice to hit balls next to you. What a
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  Speaker 3: terrific guy.
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  Speaker 1: Amazing, What an amazing event that that could happen though, right,
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's.
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  Speaker 3: The whole thing about the American Century Championship is you
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  Speaker 3: never know who you're going to run to, You never
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  Speaker 3: know who you're going to meet. We have ten new
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  Speaker 3: people here at this one, and like I said, it's
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  Speaker 3: my thirty sixth of the thirty seven years that I've
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  Speaker 3: been fortunate enough to be able to play in this,
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  Speaker 3: and I absolutely love it.
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  Speaker 2: And I mean the weather has just been spectacularing.
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  Speaker 3: It's going to be you know, mid late yeah, probably
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  Speaker 3: high seventies for the rounds. We start a little late tomorrow,
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  Speaker 3: and it's going to be so much fun. But American
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  Speaker 3: Century does so many wonderful things, and you know, you
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  Speaker 3: and I have talked about this. They donate forty percent
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  Speaker 3: of their dividends to the Dour Institute for Research on
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  Speaker 3: Cancer and Diseases. Yes, now, I can't think of another
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  Speaker 3: company that donates as much of their profit, well basically
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  Speaker 3: their dividends to do something in research. And that's that's
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  Speaker 3: why I love being a part of it. I mean
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  Speaker 3: it's yes, it's the competition. Yes, it's the chance because
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  Speaker 3: we're competition, junkies and core. And when you leave like
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  Speaker 3: the game of football, like I did, you you just
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  Speaker 3: erg you just yearn for something else to be able
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  Speaker 3: to compete in. But yet there's so much good that
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  Speaker 3: comes from this. Because somebody asked me earlier, says, what
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  Speaker 3: do you what do you enjoy most about being here
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  Speaker 3: at the American Century Championship. I said, truthfully, it's the
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  Speaker 3: opportunity to be able to be a part of something
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  Speaker 3: that contributes so much to help other people. Yes, And
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  Speaker 3: then of course it's the competitive part of it. I
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  Speaker 3: just I can't get it out of my system. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: this course has not gotten any shorter, No, but my
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  Speaker 3: game has.
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  Speaker 4: What's the best finish you've had here?
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  Speaker 2: I think I finished fifth?
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  Speaker 4: Wow.
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  Speaker 3: A long time ago. That's when we were we were
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  Speaker 3: stroke play. Right now, we're what's called a modified Stapleford system. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: And for people that don't understand the Stapleford system, in
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  Speaker 3: our tournament here you get zero points for bogies, you
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  Speaker 3: get one point for a par three points.
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  Speaker 2: For a birdie.
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  Speaker 3: I think, five points for an eagle, and ten for
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  Speaker 3: a hold in one, which Steph had a few years ago.
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  Speaker 3: But the big kicker is if you get a double
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  Speaker 3: bogie or worse, you lose two points. Last year on Sunday,
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  Speaker 3: I had seven double bogies, which means basically I gave
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  Speaker 3: up fourteen points and you just can't overcome it. But
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  Speaker 3: just being able to be out here and work on
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  Speaker 3: the game, and you know, my son's on the bag
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  Speaker 3: for me, and it makes it so much fun, So good, Joe.
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  Speaker 5: One of the first time players this year, Kyle Hamilton
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  Speaker 5: from the Baltimore Ravens, as a fellow Notre Dame guy. Right,
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  Speaker 5: is it kind of your responsibility to take him under
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  Speaker 5: your wing this week?
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  Speaker 2: N't know, I'm competing against them. I don't care.
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  Speaker 3: If I have a chance to step on his toe
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  Speaker 3: in the driving range, I might just do that now.
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  Speaker 3: You tell them, Joe, I'm willing to help anybody do anything.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's great to have Kyle here. What a
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  Speaker 3: what a spectacular career so far he's had in Baltimore,
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  Speaker 3: and what an incredible career he had at the University
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  Speaker 3: of Notre Dame. You know, he's one of those prototypical
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  Speaker 3: safeties that everybody's looking for.
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  Speaker 2: You're looking for a Kyle handle.
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  Speaker 3: You go, I don't care go through every team on
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  Speaker 3: the roster, every team in the national football You say,
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  Speaker 3: if we could get someone like that, we'd be very lucky.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Speaking of Notre Dame, So, Mike Golick was here for
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  Speaker 1: a couple of years and he's a good friend of
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  Speaker 1: mine and a caddy for him, and he was so
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  Speaker 1: bad at golf that they didn't invite him back. Joe, So,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if do you want to help him
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  Speaker 1: out or like, what do you think? I promised i'd
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  Speaker 1: ask someone, and so I'm going to ask you.
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  Speaker 3: I think, from what I understand, the story was, it
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  Speaker 3: has nothing to do with the invitation that was given.
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  Speaker 3: Is you suggested that he go do something else, that
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  Speaker 3: he could spend his time and it would be.
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  Speaker 2: Worthwhile anywhere but out here on a golf course.
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  Speaker 3: I was I thought you were the culprit behind all that,
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  Speaker 3: to be honest.
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  Speaker 4: You know me.
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  Speaker 1: Well, Jeff Senior, act, how do we feel about Notre
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  Speaker 1: Dame this year?
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  Speaker 4: Huh?
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  Speaker 2: I'm excited.
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  Speaker 4: Yea.
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  Speaker 3: We know we got hosed last year, and so does
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  Speaker 3: the NCAA and so does the Competition Committee and all
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  Speaker 3: of that, and it's and unfortunately what happened to Notre
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  Speaker 3: Dame last year has basically forced a rule change, and
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  Speaker 3: I think it'll be better for college football than long run.
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  Speaker 3: I will say this, and this is the first I
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  Speaker 3: was going to tweet this out at Joe Heisman yep.
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  Speaker 6: Well seven yeah, but I I decided to do it
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  Speaker 6: on your show and say that I believe that college
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  Speaker 6: football has reached a point where they have to get
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  Speaker 6: rid of the stoppage of the of the.
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  Speaker 3: Game after first outs. Wow, the games are too long. Yep,
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  Speaker 3: you could pick up thirty minutes. It did it in baseball.
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  Speaker 3: You got the pitch count, you got the pitch clock.
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  Speaker 3: In baseball, they're doing everything they can. You know that
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  Speaker 3: you cut the time back.
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  Speaker 2: I want.
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  Speaker 3: I would love to see the governing bodies of college
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  Speaker 3: football sit down and say, you know, we don't need
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  Speaker 3: to stop the clock after first downs, just keep playing
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  Speaker 3: football and and that to me would be a big
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  Speaker 3: boost and giving people a chance to spend three hours
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  Speaker 3: instead of three hours and forty five minutes in a stance.
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  Speaker 1: But I'll tell you what, Joe, if Notre Dame is
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  Speaker 1: down six driving for a winning touchdown and you're not
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  Speaker 1: getting those first down timeouts.
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  Speaker 4: You're going to be outraged.
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  Speaker 6: We're not going to be down six for that much
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  Speaker 6: time to go, of course, yes, but you wouldn't be
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  Speaker 6: out there. You wouldn't want that, Joe.
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  Speaker 5: On Thursday, the commanders announced that they were going to
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  Speaker 5: retire to the number forty four, warden by your former teammate.
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  Speaker 4: John Riggins. He loves them.
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  Speaker 5: Feels long overdue, right.
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  Speaker 2: Yes it is.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, John should have had his jersey retired a long
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  Speaker 3: time ago.
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  Speaker 2: But you know what, now that it's here, it's wonderful.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, John was such a special part of what
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  Speaker 3: we were able to do in the early eighties with
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  Speaker 3: our football team and.
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  Speaker 2: His ability to be able to break tackles.
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  Speaker 3: The thing was, when he came from the Jets, everybody
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  Speaker 3: you know didn't know what to do with him. Joe
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  Speaker 3: Gibbs was incredible when he came to crafting an offense
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  Speaker 3: that took advantage of what guys did, and John was
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  Speaker 3: one of them. We were built around John, no question
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  Speaker 3: are the eighties football team was built around John Riggins.
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  Speaker 2: He was going to be our bellcow.
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  Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, Saturday night before Super Bowl seventeen,
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  Speaker 3: we were sitting in a quarterback meeting and Coach said, look,
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  Speaker 3: keep this game within within a score. We're gonna be
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  Speaker 3: fine because we're bigger upfront and we're gonna wear him down,
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  Speaker 3: and John's gonna wear him down. And that's exactly the
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  Speaker 3: way the game went. Coach foresaw that, and it was
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  Speaker 3: just the genius and to have John's abilities to be
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  Speaker 3: able to go out and do the things that he
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  Speaker 3: has done. He's a terrific receiver. Never really had to
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  Speaker 3: use him because we had Joe Washington. But then on
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  Speaker 3: top of all that, you have the ability to be
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  Speaker 3: able to go into the middle of a defense and
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  Speaker 3: be able. I watched him outrun Michael Downs against the
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  Speaker 3: Dallas Cowboys.
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  Speaker 2: We ran a quick hitter up the middle.
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  Speaker 3: John circled the defense and went sixty plus yards for
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  Speaker 3: a touchdown.
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  Speaker 2: That's how fast he was.
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  Speaker 3: Something that people absolutely don't appreciate as his speed. These
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  Speaker 3: these fans that want Stu to do something, I can't
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  Speaker 3: believe you hearhim in the background autographs stew.
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  Speaker 2: Scotts at least coming here, Toots. We need you, you
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  Speaker 2: know at your fans.
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  Speaker 4: Dow waw wins to.
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  Speaker 1: Show with us on the diving range at the American
• 9:01
  Speaker 1: Century Championships in Lake Tahoe. What was the first Well,
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  Speaker 1: I guess the second year because you didn't show up
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  Speaker 1: for the first year.
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  Speaker 4: Do you remember what your first tournament was like here?
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  Speaker 4: Because it wasn't this job.
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  Speaker 2: It was scary. Really yeah, well interesting.
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  Speaker 3: We have video of our the first tournaments, the early years,
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  Speaker 3: back in the nineties and nineteen ninety.
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  Speaker 2: Believe was the first one.
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  Speaker 3: If you look at seventeen's a great barometer of where
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  Speaker 3: we were at that time. You look at that particular
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  Speaker 3: hole seventeen is on Lake Tahoe. We get about three
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  Speaker 3: to four thousand people there in about two to three
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  Speaker 3: hundred boats.
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  Speaker 2: Now, yes, back then there was one boat. It was
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  Speaker 2: probably grounded.
• 9:43
  Speaker 3: I don't know, but we have one boat there and
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  Speaker 3: about one hundred people lining that particular hole.
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  Speaker 2: Now it's just jam packed and it's ten deep. It's
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  Speaker 2: an incredible experience. I believe this. I think the PGA
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  Speaker 2: saw what we did here in Lake Tahoe many years ago.
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  Speaker 3: And you look at the you know, Phoenix open, you
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  Speaker 3: look at waste vantages, look at you look at different
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  Speaker 3: holes now on the tour, and that's basically what you get.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, you get you get a theater for people to.
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  Speaker 3: Be able to cheer and root and yell and scream
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  Speaker 3: where it used to be the quote unquote the gentleman's game.
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  Speaker 2: Sh don't say anything not Now fans are.
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  Speaker 4: Going Crazy's great, It's wonderat It's wonderful.
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  Speaker 5: Joe, and you're thirty six years here. With all the
• 10:25
  Speaker 5: celebrities that have been here, has there ever been one
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  Speaker 5: where were like, I can't wait to meet this person
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  Speaker 5: or somebody who got you even stars.
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  Speaker 2: More recently, Miles Tiller.
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  Speaker 3: I'm a big fan of top Gun Maverick and I
• 10:35
  Speaker 3: had a chance to hit Paul's with him last year.
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  Speaker 3: I've seen him earlier this year as well. I just
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  Speaker 3: I think he's a terrific actor. And it's really funny
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  Speaker 3: when you run into people here and you see them
• 10:45
  Speaker 3: and their actors in particular, you start to see different
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  Speaker 3: movies and shows that they did way back when they
• 10:53
  Speaker 3: got started, and they don't look the same. You know,
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  Speaker 3: they're just they've grown up basically in the whole thing,
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  Speaker 3: and Miles is one of them. But one of the
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  Speaker 3: most incredible experiences I had early on, I had a
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  Speaker 3: chance to play around with Mark McGuire and Michael.
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  Speaker 2: Jordan Wowow Special and you watch those two hit.
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  Speaker 3: The ball, and you know, Michael's always been an incredibly
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  Speaker 3: wonderful human being and a friend that I've known for many,
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  Speaker 3: many years. And he's just done incredibly well with everything
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  Speaker 3: that he touches. I mean, his NASCAR team is absolutely
• 11:25
  Speaker 3: on fire. Michael continues to be I think a driving
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  Speaker 3: force as far as what they do from a leadership standpoint.
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  Speaker 4: How competitive was he during that round?
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  Speaker 2: He's always competitive. I mean, you know, you look up
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  Speaker 2: Michael Jordan the dictionary. He says, oh competitive, Yes, extremely competitive.
• 11:43
  Speaker 2: See extremely extremely competitive. They're all there.
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  Speaker 4: Has he invited you down to his course yet?
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  Speaker 2: No?
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  Speaker 4: No, But you know you could just show up there, Joe,
• 11:50
  Speaker 4: and he'd let you.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: No, they wouldn't let me in the gate.
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  Speaker 4: I have, Joe, they let me in the gate. I
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  Speaker 4: went there.
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  Speaker 2: But it's just just he's, like I say, he's just
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  Speaker 2: a wonderful human being, an incredible guy.
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  Speaker 1: You mentioned Joe Gibbs. I'm certain your answer is going
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  Speaker 1: to be yes to this. You need one coach to
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  Speaker 1: win a game. You could choose from any coach in
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  Speaker 1: the history of sports. Is it going to be Joe Gibbs?
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  Speaker 3: It would be mine because of my experience with Joe.
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  Speaker 3: Joe was so smart at adapting to things. In nineteen
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  Speaker 3: eighty three, we led the league in scoring. Yeah, five
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  Speaker 3: hundred and forty one points, I believe it was. And
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  Speaker 3: when we used to sit in a meeting and prepare
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  Speaker 3: for a game, I would listen to the game plan
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  Speaker 3: and I would sit there and I would say, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: we're going to win this football game. I'm sure it's
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  Speaker 3: just a question how many points are we going to score?
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  Speaker 3: When it came to the red zone inside the twenty,
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  Speaker 3: there was nobody better. I don't think there's anybody better today.
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  Speaker 3: His concepts made so much sense, the things that he
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  Speaker 3: taught us, the things that he wanted to do, the
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  Speaker 3: places he wanted me to look to go with the football.
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  Speaker 3: I will tell you a funny story about Coach Gibbs
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  Speaker 3: and I and this is after Super Bowl eighteen. So
• 12:52
  Speaker 3: in Super Bowl eighteen, before the end of the half,
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  Speaker 3: Coach calls Rocket Screen. Now we'd played the Raiders earlier
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  Speaker 3: in the year, ran rockets green with Joe Washington, and
• 13:01
  Speaker 3: he went ninety five yards with a touchdown. So we're
• 13:04
  Speaker 3: on the twelve yard line, twelve seconds to go. He
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  Speaker 3: argues with me, but I'm on the mic now, so
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  Speaker 3: he can't argue. So he calls Rockets green, and I'm
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  Speaker 3: staying on the sidelines with him, and I said, Coach,
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  Speaker 3: I just don't feel good about putting the ball in
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  Speaker 3: the air with this little time. He said it worked
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  Speaker 3: against him last time, and I thought to myself, you
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  Speaker 3: don't think they know that.
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  Speaker 2: So now I go into a huddle, I call Rocket's green.
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  Speaker 3: I drop back, and all of a sudden, everybody looks
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  Speaker 3: like they took Millan out of the game.
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  Speaker 2: Put in Jack Squireck.
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  Speaker 3: So all of a sudden, everybody drops into his zone
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  Speaker 3: except Jack, anticipating we're going to run this. Jack's I
• 13:39
  Speaker 3: got the balls, just relieve, just coming out of my hand.
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  Speaker 3: I see Jack break for the balls a touchdown, So
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  Speaker 3: you know we're down now twenty one three at that time.
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  Speaker 3: So I see Joe at a fundraiser. He does an
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  Speaker 3: incredible things in the community with his youth for tomorrow
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  Speaker 3: schools and campuses, and I said, Coach, I got a
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  Speaker 3: beef to pick with you. This was like five years
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  Speaker 3: after he's what's that? I said, you know that call
• 14:00
  Speaker 3: that you made in Super Bowl eighteen that rocket screen.
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  Speaker 3: That could have been one of the worst you've ever made,
• 14:04
  Speaker 3: he said, Joe, let me be the case. But that
• 14:06
  Speaker 3: passed you through absolutely the.
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  Speaker 2: Worst I've ever seen.
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  Speaker 1: I noticed you had to let a lot of time
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  Speaker 1: go by before you told j A lot of times
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  Speaker 1: you were tempted to tell him right.
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  Speaker 4: In the game.
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  Speaker 2: Oh no, I'll tell you another one that happens in
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  Speaker 2: that game.
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  Speaker 3: So for those people that do understand football, there's different
• 14:24
  Speaker 3: types of defense. There's a four to three, which are
• 14:26
  Speaker 3: four down linemen and three linebackers, and there's a three
• 14:29
  Speaker 3: to four where there's three down linemen and four linebackers.
• 14:32
  Speaker 3: The Raiders played a three to four four linebackers. What
• 14:35
  Speaker 3: they used to do is they used to walk up
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  Speaker 3: a linebacker to occupy your guard who had a double
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• 14:42
  Speaker 3: or left. Well, Mike Davis was their safety, and we
• 14:45
  Speaker 3: got down around a fifteen yard line one time. And
• 14:48
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  Speaker 3: Russ Grimm is my left guard. He sets, the guy
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  Speaker 3: in front of him doesn't come. He turns out the
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  Speaker 2: Hanging out of my my shirt.
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  Speaker 3: I walked up to coach, he said, coach, who's blocking
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  Speaker 2: Look at me. Does this look like she's being blocked?
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: We have all those moments in the game, Joe.
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  Speaker 5: Quarterbacking just came second nature to you. But there are
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• 15:37
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• 15:38
  Speaker 2: Actually, yes, it's the hardest position in all sports.
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  Speaker 3: Are the most important it is. I think you can't
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• 15:50
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• 15:53
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• 15:56
  Speaker 3: they're like eight and one, all of a sudden they
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: missed the playoffs. It's a very critical position because we're
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: managers of the game. And when you lose the manager,
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: you really you lose the idea and the ability to
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: be able to get yourself in and out of bad situations.
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: And when things start to compound in a negative way,
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: you need somebody there to put their finger in the
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: dike and slow it down. And to me, it's the toughest.
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: I mean, you don't get any time. It's not like
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: pictures in baseball. I mean, you know what you do
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: is you pitch six innings and then you take four
• 16:25
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• 16:27
  Speaker 3: you know, for us, I always felt like what they
• 16:29
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• 16:32
  Speaker 3: somebody line up, you know, three or four yards away
• 16:34
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• 16:36
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• 16:37
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• 16:50
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• 16:52
  Speaker 3: oh I hit such a beautiful shot. Well you know
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  Speaker 1: Taylor and I are big Nick fans, and so that
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  Speaker 4: Yes, thank you. It meant so much to Oz, It
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: met so much to that city.
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  Speaker 1: And I feel like the Commanders are one of those
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: teams that have that same kind of meaning to the city,
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  Speaker 2: It has always been that way.
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  Speaker 3: We got a sampling of it of a couple of
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  Speaker 3: years ago when we got to the NFC Championship game.
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  Speaker 3: But how do you let somebody in a basketball game
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: that is so important? How do you let one guy
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: of the ninety four points that were scoring score forty
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: five of them and he's a guard. Yeah, he's not
• 19:00
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• 19:04
  Speaker 4: No, how do you?
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: But what an incredible performance? I mean, it was hats
• 19:08
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  Speaker 1: And it.
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  Speaker 3: You know, you sit there and you're thinking, you know,
• 19:13
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• 19:17
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• 19:19
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• 19:22
  Speaker 3: going to wind up in the same situation, in the
• 19:24
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• 19:26
  Speaker 2: So all you Giant fans out there, just enjoy the Knicks.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: But Joe, you love a guy like Brunson, right, Like
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: a lot of people didn't believe in him, and he
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: has proven a lot of people wrong.
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: You love those stories.
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  Speaker 2: And he just didn't leave. He stayed. Yes, he stayed
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: because he believed what was going on.
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• 19:42
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• 19:45
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• 19:47
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• 19:50
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• 19:53
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• 19:55
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• 20:00
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• 20:02
  Speaker 3: It doesn't matter if you're committed to win. And that's
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: what we had in Washington. We had a group of
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: guys that were committed to win. I called it a
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: group of characters with characters. That's what we were. It was,
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: you know, anybody, any one guy could make the difference
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: in the game, and anyone one guy would have loved it.
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: Can you rank these three guys for me?
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: Because I had this conversation with Golick because I feel
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: like the third guy who was who was on Washington
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: doesn't get enough credit.
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: Else Reggie White, Dexter Manley. I feel like Dexter doesn't
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: get enough credit for how great he was.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: No, you know, because Dexter played the defensive line position. Reggie, again,
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: it's tough to pick. LT was the most incredible force
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: in football at that time. As a matter of fact,
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: when we used to put up defenses on our boards,
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: we used to label guys with different letters, like V
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: was for defensive linemen, C was for corners, S was
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: for safety, B was for backers. But on our board
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: there was one big fifty six with a circle around it,
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: which meant, everybody pay attention to LT over here, will
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: pay attention to him. To this guy Reggie was another one,
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: you know by what We did a Green Bay game
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: and Reggie had a hole in his thigh and I said, are.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: You gonna play Arena? Are you gonna play with that?
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: I mean it was a hole in his thigh. Yes,
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: he said, And this is this is the God's honest truth.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: He says, God will take care of him. And he
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: went out and he left like two sacks and of
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: course ball, I mean, it's like and he just played
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: that game. And then Dexter was Dexter was was so quick,
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: he was so quick, so face. But you know, Darryl
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: Grant played next to him, Dave Buds played next to him.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: Charles Mann was on the other side that front four.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: I'd put up with any front four in the National
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: Football League at any point in time. And they really
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: were special. But people don't realize that. I was talking
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: to somebody earlier today. In Super Bowl seventeen that we
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: won against the Dolphins, David Woodley threw fourteen passes. He
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: completed four of them, every one of them in the
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: first half. I don't ever believe there's been a Super
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: Bowl where the one of the teams has gone oh
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  Speaker 3: for whatever the number is in the second half he
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: went over with it.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: So that's how good our defense was. Joe, We're gonna
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: let you go American Century champions. Well, it's your show.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: You could say, as long as you want me to
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: book you some guests, I'm gonna go hit some ball.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: I just want to give one more story because you
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: were there last night, just to point out how special
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: this weekend is and why everyone insists on coming back
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: every year. The standing ovation for Matthew Kuld Chuck Brady
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: could Chuck bringing home the goals was that amazing.
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: I mean, and hats off to our USA soccer team.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: You know, they put such an incredible effort forward and you.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: Know they just got you know, they got overwhelmed. Yeah,
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: I held him.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: I had Matthew on earlier and he started getting emotional
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: talking about last night because it's not just getting the
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: standing ovation, it's that room giving him a standing ovation exactly.
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's a lot of the people in
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: that room have either won Emmys or Academy Awards or
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: World championship. So you're basically in a room of peers. Yes,
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: and they understand and know the price that you paid
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: to get where you are. And to understand the mountain
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: that you had to climb to be able to be
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: where you are. That's why we appreciate both he and
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: his brother. Now they're gonna play together. Yes, you know,
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: hockey's back.
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: Fantastic.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: We appreciate the time as though we Sir, you've always
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: been great to me. We love this tournament. Go hit
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: some balls, Joe.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: Thanks Buddy.
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: I want to put a flyer on you. Okay, no,
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  Speaker 4: don't