Latest / Moser, Lombardi and Kane / 8-18-26 Hour 3 - Payton's Prototypical RB/Adam Schefter/Preparing QBs for the NFL
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- 0:18Speaker 1: Oh yeah, definitely.
- 0:19Speaker 2: We want to be the best running back room in
- 0:22Speaker 2: the nation, in all of the NFL. So, uh you know,
- 0:25Speaker 2: we're just gonna take it day by day, get better
- 0:28Speaker 2: each and every day with the old line and the
- 0:29Speaker 2: quarterbacks and uh yeah, running backs were just gonna pus
- 0:32Speaker 2: each other.
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- 0:45Speaker 1: That was R. J.
- 0:47Speaker 4: Harvey talking about the running back room.
- 0:49Speaker 3: We get another clip here from Sean Payton yesterday and
- 0:52Speaker 3: I've said this before. Chad Brown is with us again today.
- 0:55Speaker 3: We'll be tomorrow as well. I said, Shun Payton much
- 0:59Speaker 3: like me in my dating life, he has a type.
- 1:04Speaker 3: My type has always been blocked blondes.
- 1:07Speaker 1: I just I don't know.
- 1:07Speaker 3: I've been predisposed to blonde since I was a child.
- 1:09Speaker 3: I don't know what it is. I just said, that's
- 1:12Speaker 3: been my type. Sean Payton has a type for wide receivers,
- 1:15Speaker 3: they're six foot fourth giant butts. And his running backs,
- 1:19Speaker 3: he likes it about five foot eight and not seen
- 1:22Speaker 3: past an offensive line. So when asked yesterday about that
- 1:26Speaker 3: the stature of his running bax, he said.
- 1:28Speaker 5: This, I'm not saying it's coincidence, but to some degree,
- 1:31Speaker 5: there's not really a hype prototype with that position, but
- 1:34Speaker 5: there is a stature prototype.
- 1:35Speaker 1: So they fit that stature, but they just so.
- 1:40Speaker 5: Happened to be that hype and I think that's a
- 1:43Speaker 5: little bit more of the coincidence.
- 1:44Speaker 4: What's the stature he's talking about, Chad.
- 1:47Speaker 6: Thick, dick, thick lower body, yep, is that what That's
- 1:50Speaker 6: what you want from your running back, and so I
- 1:53Speaker 6: think it is a part of that as well. Running
- 1:58Speaker 6: backs that can hide behind it offensive line that makes
- 2:00Speaker 6: life more difficult for a defender. Guys who have a
- 2:02Speaker 6: thick lower body tend to break more tackles. It's you know,
- 2:05Speaker 6: there's a reason why Reggie Bush, as explosive as he was,
- 2:09Speaker 6: wasn't a great inside runner in the NFL. Not a
- 2:11Speaker 6: thick lower body.
- 2:13Speaker 1: His best run when he popped through and then a
- 2:18Speaker 1: joke move and then the spin off the line backer.
- 2:21Speaker 1: I'm like that, Jonah, Yeah, yeah, I did one of
- 2:25Speaker 1: these with the hearts of the hand like like the
- 2:27Speaker 1: kids do.
- 2:28Speaker 7: Right.
- 2:28Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like, h I love you. I love seeing
- 2:32Speaker 1: that stuff.
- 2:32Speaker 7: Man. Eric Dickerson was Hall of Fame running back, clear, but.
- 2:35Speaker 1: He was an upright, gigantic man that ran like the wind.
- 2:38Speaker 6: Right and he was six three and a half and
- 2:41Speaker 6: ran upright. I can't think of very many clips of
- 2:44Speaker 6: Eric Dickerson working a spin move. The mass is just
- 2:50Speaker 6: too high. The shorter the closer you are to the ground,
- 2:53Speaker 6: the closer you you're sinder of gravity is, the easier
- 2:56Speaker 6: it is for you to spin and do those kinds
- 2:58Speaker 6: of things. So it's the reason why I'm more running
- 2:59Speaker 6: back are successful at a smaller height, and the taller
- 3:03Speaker 6: you get is running back, the lesser your chances of
- 3:06Speaker 6: success are.
- 3:07Speaker 1: What's interesting though, when you bring that up, I think
- 3:09Speaker 1: of like Barry Sanders, one of the best of all time.
- 3:11Speaker 1: I think of of Eric Dickerson, one of the best
- 3:15Speaker 1: of all time. I mean, they could not be different runners, right,
- 3:19Speaker 1: You could not have You couldn't build two different human
- 3:22Speaker 1: beings to play the position. Yet they were both incredibly
- 3:25Speaker 1: effective the way they did it, right. I guess you know,
- 3:28Speaker 1: everything has its advantages and disadvantages. Well, that's what's crazy
- 3:31Speaker 1: about TD, and TD was probably somewhere in the middle
- 3:34Speaker 1: of those guys.
- 3:35Speaker 3: That's just crazy about a guy like Derrick Henry, right, Yeah,
- 3:38Speaker 3: that Derek Henry.
- 3:39Speaker 1: What is he? Six three, six' four like, four he's six.
- 3:43Speaker 3: Four he towers, Over people he's thick, as hell and
- 3:47Speaker 3: he's faster than.
- 3:48Speaker 4: Anybody else still he's able to.
- 3:50Speaker 1: Do that you know your Story about god when the
- 3:55Speaker 1: official said that he just, beat him what do.
- 3:56Speaker 7: You say? Simply overpower?
- 3:59Speaker 1: Over power we would Talk About derrick Henry And Chad
- 4:03Speaker 1: derrick henry still to. This day but in you know
- 4:05Speaker 1: this Real true Prime, at tennessee he throws guys into.
- 4:09Speaker 1: The ground like he takes a guy, like you a,
- 4:13Speaker 1: big guy and he just throws him into the earth
- 4:16Speaker 1: and the little guys. He brett he bears him into
- 4:19Speaker 1: what the crust of the, Earth man.
- 4:21Speaker 6: But he doesn't make people miss in a small Window
- 4:24Speaker 6: The jonah coleman, juke move. Spin Move derrick henry could not.
- 4:28Speaker 6: Do That derek henry needs a little bit of open
- 4:30Speaker 6: space where he can get up to speed as a.
- 4:32Speaker 6: Bigger man so if you look at the all time,
- 4:34Speaker 6: Rushing List emmitt smith, Shorter Guy walter payton, Shorter Guy
- 4:37Speaker 6: frank gore, Shorter Guy barry sanders. Shorter guy they get
- 4:41Speaker 6: Down To dandian thomason also a. Shorter guy jerome bettis
- 4:45Speaker 6: also a. Shorter guy so the tall guys in There.
- 4:48Speaker 1: Are, Arcus Allen, Marcus Allen, marcus allen he was a
- 4:51Speaker 1: unique skill.
- 4:52Speaker 7: Set guy.
- 4:52Speaker 6: Taller Guy curtis martin was kind of. In Between eric
- 4:56Speaker 6: dickerson definitely a. Tall Guy derek henry guy a. Tall
- 4:58Speaker 6: guy so that's the top. TEN there a majority of
- 5:01Speaker 6: the top ten all time leading rushers are guys of,
- 5:04Speaker 6: smaller stature a little bit more of the Prototype That
- 5:07Speaker 6: sean payton's.
- 5:08Speaker 1: Talking, about yeah the defender was, just overpowered. Just overpowered
- 5:12Speaker 1: not simply but there's no penalty on. The play he was.
- 5:17Speaker 7: JUST overpowered I was.
- 5:19Speaker 3: I was looking at some numbers from the running backs from.
- 5:21Speaker 3: LAST year i do think one thing. Is Interesting so
- 5:24Speaker 3: Harvey and dobbinson had about the same amount, of Carries
- 5:26Speaker 3: but dobbins left after.
- 5:27Speaker 4: Week ten he had one hundred and fifty three through.
- 5:30Speaker 3: Ten Weeks, but dobbins as he does, every year whether
- 5:33Speaker 3: he's healthy, or not average five yards. Per carry he's
- 5:35Speaker 3: done that every year of. His career here's the, interesting, THING.
- 5:38Speaker 3: Though rj harvey had fifty eight targets in the. Passing
- 5:42Speaker 3: game do you know HOW. Many jk dobbins had in?
- 5:45Speaker 3: Ten games he had only. ELEVEN catches i was going to,
- 5:48Speaker 3: guess TEN so i was.
- 5:49Speaker 7: Very.
- 5:49Speaker 3: Close yeah he just he's not somebody that at least
- 5:53Speaker 3: last year caught the ball out of the backfield much
- 5:56Speaker 3: that was reserved more FOR.
- 5:57Speaker 4: An rj.
- 5:58Speaker 3: Harvey ROLE and i THINK. Our j harvey could be
- 6:00Speaker 3: one of those guys that, could have, you know a
- 6:04Speaker 3: sixty sixty five catch season out of the backfield and
- 6:08Speaker 3: just trying to get him an, open, space right because
- 6:10Speaker 3: he's not that kind of guy that's gonna run between
- 6:12Speaker 3: the tackles. Like that he is More like jiliel or
- 6:14Speaker 3: somebody else that needs to get outside and get into.
- 6:16Speaker 1: OPEN space, Ar.
- 6:17Speaker 3: Say harvey is a little bit, thicker guy though it's
- 6:19Speaker 3: not like HE'S he's i always say this in FOOTBALL
- 6:22Speaker 3: when i say it's a small player like, To Me
- 6:26Speaker 3: bryce young is small because, He's slight.
- 6:28Speaker 4: He's slender he doesn't have like a lot of power.
- 6:32Speaker 3: Around Him Like baker mayfield is a, shorter quarterback but
- 6:35Speaker 3: he's got, he's stocky he's got.
- 6:37Speaker 1: A little bit of girth.
- 6:38Speaker 3: TO him i suppose so small always to me means
- 6:41Speaker 3: like when you Look At, Jaliel juliel god, bless him
- 6:44Speaker 3: but he's he's short, and slight if you KNOW what. I.
- 6:48Speaker 6: Mean Yeah darren sproull is a former running Back For. Sean,
- 6:50Speaker 6: payton yes short but not a. Slight, man, no, no thick, Well,
- 6:54Speaker 6: built yeah has.
- 6:56Speaker 1: TO be i was Looking at bryce showing the officially
- 6:58Speaker 1: have him listed at five ten and.
- 7:00Speaker 7: Two four he's probably one.
- 7:02Speaker 1: Ninety, FIVE yeah i was, gonna say because he looks
- 7:05Speaker 1: like a, skinnier guy Doesn't, he, yes yeah and it
- 7:08Speaker 1: looks like a. Little guy.
- 7:10Speaker 3: But it's just interesting to see how the ball gets,
- 7:12Speaker 3: spread around like for, a guy, YOU. Know rj harvey
- 7:16Speaker 3: just does feel like a guy who's gonna catch the
- 7:18Speaker 3: ball out of the backfield more AND.
- 7:20Speaker 4: And jk dobbins is sort of your. PURE runner i.
- 7:23Speaker 3: Don't Know what coleman's going. TO be i don't know
- 7:25Speaker 3: what his his past game, stuff IS but.
- 7:28Speaker 7: I don't like pure, personnel, TELLS.
- 7:31Speaker 1: Right i was gonna ask you.
- 7:33Speaker 6: About That ye as, A defender i, WATCH tape i get,
- 7:37Speaker 6: the stats and so if if this running back is on,
- 7:40Speaker 6: the FIELD then i know this is going. To happen
- 7:42Speaker 6: and that run backs on the FIELD and i know
- 7:43Speaker 6: that is going. TO happen i don't like the pure.
- 7:46Speaker 6: Personnel tells and that was one some of my issues
- 7:48Speaker 6: with the personnel group mass Replacements that sean would do
- 7:52Speaker 6: when he was. Play calling not only did that slow
- 7:55Speaker 6: things down from a from a, rhythm perspective but when
- 7:59Speaker 6: this personal package comes on, the field we're gonna expect,
- 8:02Speaker 6: these things and that's personal package, comes on we expect,
- 8:04Speaker 6: these things and it starts to feel like you're just
- 8:07Speaker 6: telling the defense what you're going to do by who's on.
- 8:10Speaker 3: The, field yeah it's just, an indicator and a lot
- 8:13Speaker 3: of times that happens depending on who's being subbed in
- 8:16Speaker 3: and who's being.
- 8:16Speaker 1: Subbed out maybe that's the kind of stuff that can Change.
- 8:20Speaker 3: With DAVIS web, i hope so maybe he can mix
- 8:22Speaker 3: that up a little bit more and not BE as
- 8:24Speaker 3: i guess you would.
- 8:25Speaker 1: Call predictable would that be the word?
- 8:26Speaker 6: For it, predictable stuff because obviously people are going to change. Things,
- 8:31Speaker 6: up yeah BUT if i can start eliminating in, my
- 8:33Speaker 6: mind not necessarily know exactly what you're going, to do
- 8:36Speaker 6: but if you get on, the field then there's, ten
- 8:38Speaker 6: POSSIBILITIES and i can look at the personal PACKAGE and
- 8:40Speaker 6: i can eliminate seven of. Those possibilities, but YEAH then
- 8:43Speaker 6: i got a much better chance for success on that
- 8:45Speaker 6: down as. A, defender.
- 8:47Speaker 1: Hey a couple things in that Regard with web in this,
- 8:50Speaker 1: maturation process as he, calls plays how long do you
- 8:53Speaker 1: think how long would you guesstimate until he gets there
- 8:58Speaker 1: where he needs to be fully that kind, of thing
- 9:00Speaker 1: or maybe he, never does but there'll be a. Comfortability
- 9:03Speaker 1: factor and, number two what will it look like to
- 9:06Speaker 1: you when you see him get to?
- 9:07Speaker 7: THAT level.
- 9:10Speaker 6: I think i don't truly know what his. Style, is
- 9:14Speaker 6: again based on his quarterback, AND experience i would think
- 9:17Speaker 6: that he would recognize a quarterback's best friend is an effective,
- 9:21Speaker 6: Run game so he'd be far less Prone than sean
- 9:24Speaker 6: has over the last couple of years to get away
- 9:27Speaker 6: from the run. So EARLY but i THINK that i
- 9:30Speaker 6: think he's trying To run, sean's offense but also using
- 9:35Speaker 6: some of his coaching and playing experience to know this
- 9:38Speaker 6: is what really helps. A quarterback this is a quarterback's,
- 9:41Speaker 6: you know crutch or best friend. Out there these first
- 9:44Speaker 6: six games are going to be, incredibly TOUGH so i
- 9:46Speaker 6: think we'll have a sense of who. He IS but
- 9:48Speaker 6: i don't think he'll be a finished product. BY then
- 9:51Speaker 6: i think he'll this time, next year he'll sit down
- 9:54Speaker 6: for an interview and, he'll, GO yeah i can think
- 9:57Speaker 6: back to every, single game all of them MISS that,
- 10:00Speaker 6: i made and the great, play.
- 10:02Speaker 4: Calls those are.
- 10:03Speaker 6: All lost those two or three plays a GAME that i,
- 10:06Speaker 6: want back those are still sticking, with Me and i'm
- 10:09Speaker 6: trying to improve upon that in. THIS season i think
- 10:12Speaker 6: he'll still be thinking about that at this time.
- 10:15Speaker 1: NEXT year i heard you guys yesterday talking about the
- 10:17Speaker 1: steam roll around here by, the, Way, right yeah, the guys,
- 10:19Speaker 1: you know they don't do it, every day but they.
- 10:21Speaker 1: DO it i think every other day they get the
- 10:22Speaker 1: steam roll around and no steam coming out of, it, Though,
- 10:25Speaker 1: Right no but these cats right here who take care
- 10:27Speaker 1: of this field every, Single, day dude they've dumped more
- 10:32Speaker 1: sand on this field in this training camp so far
- 10:35Speaker 1: than in All Of. Pismo, Beach man i'm, telling you
- 10:37Speaker 1: these Guys, feel brett you want to fix? Your backyard
- 10:42Speaker 1: call these guys called that that cat right there in the.
- 10:45Speaker 6: End zone, this guy he'll look at. That guy he
- 10:47Speaker 6: hasn't gone fifteen yards in. An hour his dedication to
- 10:51Speaker 6: filling every, single divot, YOU know i mean that's his
- 10:54Speaker 6: piece of.
- 10:55Speaker 7: The. Grid man, You know i'd Live In.
- 10:57Speaker 6: Cherry creek so you've got, Your yard you've got, your
- 11:00Speaker 6: sidewalk you got that kind of public grass space where people. In,
- 11:03Speaker 6: park well they're doing a bunch of construction, near me
- 11:06Speaker 6: so there's so many. Workers walking my grass. IS suffering
- 11:10Speaker 6: i want that guy to come over to my place
- 11:14Speaker 6: and do this with. My, grass please my dogs at.
- 11:17Speaker 6: My backyard oh, my.
- 11:19Speaker 1: God dude it is a yearly it's a it's a
- 11:21Speaker 1: yearly quest to try and keep ahead, of IT and
- 11:24Speaker 1: i simply cannot, do it especially. This. Year man, you know.
- 11:27Speaker 3: It's funny the FIRST day i was, out here my,
- 11:32Speaker 3: first THOUGHT because i walked out here was five fifty
- 11:35Speaker 3: five in, the morning sat down in, this chair looked
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- 13:43Speaker 3: second of all preseason game In the tank And the
- 13:46Speaker 3: broncos offense. Looked good what's, the uh what's the discussions around?
- 13:50Speaker 4: THE debut i Guess Of davis webb's.
- 13:52Speaker 1: Play, caller well it was an.
- 13:54Speaker 8: ENCOURAGING start I thought atlanta were struggling on both sides of.
- 13:58Speaker 8: The FOOTBALL so i don't know How excited i'm gonna be.
- 14:00Speaker 8: About anything denver's Defense made atlanta's offense. Look poor denver's
- 14:04Speaker 8: offense look Good against. Atlanta's defense we'll see what. That
- 14:06Speaker 8: means just one game come out of their relatively, Injury
- 14:11Speaker 8: free so that's that's the. Biggest thing there's some teams
- 14:15Speaker 8: that have been really hit hard in the preseason and
- 14:18Speaker 8: you just want to get through here with as little
- 14:20Speaker 8: of that as you.
- 14:21Speaker 6: Possibly can adam obviously That the broncos went TO The
- 14:25Speaker 6: Afc championship game, last year but in order to really
- 14:29Speaker 6: have the best opportunity to get back to that, same
- 14:30Speaker 6: place they got to find a way to win. This
- 14:32Speaker 6: division And With patrick mahomes coming back. From injury just
- 14:36Speaker 6: give us a look AROUND The, afc west particularly With
- 14:39Speaker 6: the chargers And, the chiefs and where are they with
- 14:42Speaker 6: their progress.
- 14:43Speaker 8: This, preseason yeah here's THE thing i think when you
- 14:47Speaker 8: look AT The, afc west like every. Single year, YOU
- 14:52Speaker 8: know i started Covering that broncos team in nineteen ninety
- 14:57Speaker 8: and every year it, feels like every year feels like
- 15:01Speaker 8: every team in the division. Gets better and that's probably true.
- 15:03Speaker 8: On paper now the season starts and what happens is teams,
- 15:08Speaker 8: suffer injuries they, lose momentum it starts going the. Other
- 15:12Speaker 8: way but going into, the season every team always. Looks
- 15:18Speaker 8: stronger there's never an all season and when that's not,
- 15:20Speaker 8: the case and by, the way we can be discussing
- 15:22Speaker 8: this every year for the next. Fifty Years the chargers
- 15:25Speaker 8: will be better going into. The Season the raiders are Better,
- 15:29Speaker 8: the chiefs because that's the job of these organizations is
- 15:33Speaker 8: to build a winner and. Offer hope and when you
- 15:36Speaker 8: have money to go, do that you can go. Do
- 15:38Speaker 8: that so everybody always reloads and rearms during. The offseason
- 15:43Speaker 8: so SAYING that i can look at all these teams
- 15:45Speaker 8: right now and say they're, all better they all, look
- 15:48Speaker 8: better which. They Do the chargers with the Addition of
- 15:51Speaker 8: mike McDaniel as outfensive coordinated or the return of both,
- 15:54Speaker 8: offensive tackles they should. Be Legitimate the raiders got the
- 15:58Speaker 8: number one player in, the draft the quarterback for. The
- 16:00Speaker 8: future it took another year to. Help rebuild they Had a,
- 16:02Speaker 8: tyler linderbound the best center for. Their offensive they will
- 16:06Speaker 8: be Better. THE chiefs i know it doesn't look, like
- 16:10Speaker 8: much but they. Had it can't walker THE super mvp
- 16:13Speaker 8: homes will, be back like everybody should. Be better then the,
- 16:16Speaker 8: season starts, teams loose players start, Losing games they lose
- 16:21Speaker 8: some of that mojo and some of that juju that
- 16:23Speaker 8: comes along with the, off season and it starts going
- 16:27Speaker 8: the other.
- 16:27Speaker 9: Way again.
- 16:30Speaker 8: That's just the nature of. The business it's it's part
- 16:32Speaker 8: of the cycle of. The sport but right now every
- 16:37Speaker 8: team in that division looks better, than me.
- 16:38Speaker 1: Which is it's and they're so professional. Out Here the
- 16:42Speaker 1: broncos could be a better team this year and obviously
- 16:44Speaker 1: not even get close to their win total of fourteen
- 16:47Speaker 1: from last year because this division is tough and the
- 16:49Speaker 1: first six games. Are tough but it's funny when you, Said.
- 16:52Speaker 1: That adam the one thing that came to. My mind
- 16:54Speaker 1: the Only time i've really heard a team not be
- 16:57Speaker 1: optimistic about their future was a couple of years ago
- 16:59Speaker 1: when that, reporter asked was it the gem of the
- 17:02Speaker 1: Of the Titan, pant yeah The. Tight. Titans yeah, he's
- 17:05Speaker 1: like so do you guys, you know? Go play what do,
- 17:07Speaker 1: You say brett help? Me on, he said do you
- 17:09Speaker 1: have expectation For The? Super bowl, he's, like look we're always. Looking,
- 17:12Speaker 1: LATE look i don't know what the team put in the.
- 17:15Speaker 7: Field tomorrow can that team Win The?
- 17:17Speaker 1: Super bowl, we listen we, have here that's always the goal.
- 17:23Speaker 1: Every year we also realize that we have a lot.
- 17:25Speaker 1: Of work so like maybe reality steps in a couple
- 17:28Speaker 1: of times for, some, TEAMS right i, guess.
- 17:30Speaker 10: YEAH but i mean we we. Know THAT like i
- 17:33Speaker 10: don't mean to.
- 17:34Speaker 8: Be Disrespectful the titans aren't going to win The super bowl, this,
- 17:36Speaker 8: year right you know there are some teams that aren't
- 17:38Speaker 8: going to win The super bowl. This year but that's
- 17:40Speaker 8: not how they're measuring the success of. Their season they're
- 17:42Speaker 8: they're measuring the success of their season where they could
- 17:45Speaker 8: see their team growing and improving and getting better and
- 17:49Speaker 8: moving in the.
- 17:50Speaker 9: Right.
- 17:50Speaker 8: Direction right so so that THAT'S what i would say
- 17:55Speaker 8: there is, YOU know i, think teams teams know what
- 17:58Speaker 8: that what's expected them to assure.
- 18:00Speaker 3: Certain Extent ADAM schefter ESPN With, us adam THERE'S something
- 18:04Speaker 3: i can't get out of. My head you were talking
- 18:05Speaker 3: ABOUT The, afc west and there is a world that,
- 18:08Speaker 3: does exist not saying it's, going to but does Exist
- 18:11Speaker 3: where bonnicks plays well this year he gets the big
- 18:14Speaker 3: franchise quarterback. Contract extension And If bernana mendoza turns out
- 18:19Speaker 3: to be the guy That the raiders drafted number one
- 18:21Speaker 3: overall lives up to, that billing you could have a
- 18:24Speaker 3: decade of this Division, With Mahomes, Herbert, boon Knicks And
- 18:29Speaker 3: banana mendoza going at it a.
- 18:30Speaker 1: Decade's worth. It's, crazy.
- 18:33Speaker 10: Well it's the most important position.
- 18:35Speaker 8: In sports every team in the division has gone out
- 18:38Speaker 8: of its way to solidify.
- 18:39Speaker 9: The spot, you Know.
- 18:43Speaker 8: If mendoza, pans out and my guess is, he does
- 18:47Speaker 8: then these teams all should.
- 18:49Speaker 10: Be set and if they're, all.
- 18:49Speaker 8: Set that makes it that much harder in the off
- 18:55Speaker 8: season to, you know see all these teams improve year
- 19:00Speaker 8: after year and know that it's going to be that
- 19:02Speaker 8: much more challenging to win that division all.
- 19:04Speaker 6: The time, all right take us INTO the, Gm. Office
- 19:08Speaker 6: Adam the Broncos Have, Marvin Mims pro bowl returner has
- 19:13Speaker 6: yet to really make a significant impact on. The offense
- 19:16Speaker 6: they've got to get Balls To, courland sudden they got
- 19:18Speaker 6: to get Balls To. Zalen waddle what's the thought process
- 19:23Speaker 6: on when you trade a Guy Like devon veley a
- 19:26Speaker 6: couple of, years ago and when you hold on to
- 19:28Speaker 6: a guy who may not have the biggest role but
- 19:30Speaker 6: has a contribution on special teams versus his trade value for,
- 19:34Speaker 6: the future what's that? Thought, Process, like.
- 19:38Speaker 8: Well, you know you guys have asked Me about marvin
- 19:40Speaker 8: mims now being, traded Twice and i'm not telling you
- 19:42Speaker 8: he's not gonna. Be trained, MIGHT be, i Don't but
- 19:44Speaker 8: i've never heard anything that they're. Shopping him so maybe.
- 19:47Speaker 8: They ARE but i would think that a guy like
- 19:50Speaker 8: that has got Value to denver for the traits that
- 19:54Speaker 8: he has as, a returner as a.
- 19:56Speaker 9: Speed guy and.
- 19:57Speaker 8: Let's Just say denver was willing. TO deal i, MEAN
- 20:01Speaker 8: again i haven't heard that.
- 20:01Speaker 9: They are.
- 20:03Speaker 10: What is the value that he's going to be bringing?
- 20:05Speaker 10: In return and is that?
- 20:06Speaker 9: Worth it is that? Worth it what?
- 20:08Speaker 1: Is it do?
- 20:09Speaker 10: You do you guys think that they're?
- 20:11Speaker 1: TRADING him, i KNOW but i think he's like he's
- 20:14Speaker 1: going to last year of his deal and he if
- 20:16Speaker 1: he's not utilized the way that he maybe he wants,
- 20:19Speaker 1: to be and he's Already An all. PRO returner i
- 20:21Speaker 1: think that you'll have teams sniffing around him pretty darn
- 20:24Speaker 1: hard because we've seen him make plays when he gets
- 20:27Speaker 1: an opportunity. At him but there's just there's no room
- 20:29Speaker 1: at the end here For the broncos for the, most
- 20:31Speaker 1: part for a guy to to get the catches maybe that.
- 20:33Speaker 1: HE wants. I don't i, Don't know BUT if i,
- 20:36Speaker 1: WAS him I think i would be looking to go
- 20:37Speaker 1: elsewhere in. The offseason and If the broncos, know that
- 20:40Speaker 1: then maybe maybe something. COULD happen i really.
- 20:42Speaker 10: Don't, know, yeah, WELL well i mean those are those are.
- 20:45Speaker 10: Plausbus explanations but this is a team that's trying to.
- 20:47Speaker 8: Win now and if you've got a guy that's that dangerous,
- 20:50Speaker 8: and returner why would you want to be trading him
- 20:53Speaker 8: when if he leaves in, free agency you get back a,
- 20:55Speaker 8: compic anyway like you you want you want the best
- 20:58Speaker 8: players you could have, this year and you never know
- 21:00Speaker 8: what kind of injuries you're, gonna have like you's, no
- 21:02Speaker 8: idea and he's when he's given the chance, to play
- 21:06Speaker 8: that guy can.
- 21:07Speaker 1: MAKE place i can see. IT now i saw your tweet,
- 21:10Speaker 1: earlier today this. Medem missus THIS is i did mi
- 21:14Speaker 1: chef dealer reporting FROM. Beautiful peli you get a Place,
- 21:20Speaker 1: in paris out of the City, of lights maybe you
- 21:22Speaker 1: do a little trip Over to munich or something. Like
- 21:24Speaker 1: that this is. PRETTY big, I mean i know the
- 21:27Speaker 1: league likes international stuff and they've done it for thirty.
- 21:30Speaker 1: Years now broncos What to japan years ago and, So
- 21:32Speaker 1: on but what's the time frame here we're looking at
- 21:35Speaker 1: for expansion OUTSIDE? The us and and what's the total?
- 21:38Speaker 1: Is It like chad was talking, earlier today maybe forty
- 21:41Speaker 1: teams total at.
- 21:42Speaker 8: One, POINT yeah i don't know the, exact TIMELINE but
- 21:47Speaker 8: i do know that we've been around the league long
- 21:49Speaker 8: enough to know that when things are.
- 21:50Speaker 10: Started to be floated, out there it's only a matter
- 21:52Speaker 10: of time before.
- 21:53Speaker 8: They happen so if they're floating an eighteen, GAME season
- 21:56Speaker 8: i think we all would agree at some point, in
- 21:58Speaker 8: time no matter what, the pah it's. Gonna happen if
- 22:02Speaker 8: the league is floating the idea of expansion teams at
- 22:05Speaker 8: some point, in time whether, that's, five ten twenty years,
- 22:07Speaker 8: from now it's.
- 22:08Speaker 10: Gonna Happen and i've always felt.
- 22:12Speaker 8: Like that and now with the value of, these franchises
- 22:19Speaker 8: like what would the price of an expansion?
- 22:21Speaker 9: Franchise, be ooh like would it be ten?
- 22:27Speaker 8: Billion dollars minimum has to, Be right so if you
- 22:31Speaker 8: could just manufacture forty billion dollars by creating, four teams
- 22:36Speaker 8: not to mention the additional revenue streams that, Come, With
- 22:39Speaker 8: like i'm not a, business MAJOR and i can ask anybody.
- 22:41Speaker 9: About this we're just talking.
- 22:43Speaker 8: Out, loud now you create an extra division and the,
- 22:48Speaker 8: eighteenth game and with the, eighteenth game you create an
- 22:52Speaker 8: extra division with four, international teams and you create an
- 22:55Speaker 8: international package and every team's got to PLAY into, i
- 22:57Speaker 8: mean we're just kicking around some.
- 22:59Speaker 10: Things here you could see the areas it. Can go
- 23:02Speaker 10: and the.
- 23:04Speaker 8: League obviously is, enormously successful so you might as well
- 23:10Speaker 8: reach for the stars and be bold and aggressive. And
- 23:12Speaker 8: CREATIVE and i could see there being an added division
- 23:16Speaker 8: with four. International, teams however they, do it and there.
- 23:22Speaker 9: We go we're off.
- 23:22Speaker 3: And Running, ADAM schefter espn saw something you put. Out
- 23:26Speaker 3: yesterday i'm curious about this because when guys, are drafted
- 23:29Speaker 3: not just in the first round behind the first round,
- 23:31Speaker 3: at quarterback there's a lot of teams that are willing
- 23:34Speaker 3: to take another bite at, THE apple i suppose if
- 23:38Speaker 3: their first stop doesn't. Go Well anthony richardson's really interesting
- 23:42Speaker 3: because he is the guy with an immense amount. Of
- 23:45Speaker 3: talent didn't put it. All Together daniel jones took over, and,
- 23:48Speaker 3: played well what is you think the Market For anthony
- 23:51Speaker 3: richardson if you were to be put on, the market
- 23:53Speaker 3: even though the story you had yesterday says they likely will.
- 23:56Speaker 8: Keep, him well they're likely going to keep him because
- 23:59Speaker 8: there's no more market, for him IS what. I believe
- 24:02Speaker 8: like he was available all during, the offseason did anybody trade? For?
- 24:06Speaker 3: Him no does a lot of that have to do
- 24:10Speaker 3: with him tapping out from a couple of. YEARS ago
- 24:12Speaker 3: i remember we had you on here like you've never
- 24:14Speaker 3: seen a quarterback do.
- 24:15Speaker 1: That before.
- 24:18Speaker 9: IT'S interesting.
- 24:21Speaker 8: I did a section of my podcast this MORNING that
- 24:23Speaker 8: i recorded that'll be available here Shortly On apple tunes
- 24:27Speaker 8: or whatever It.
- 24:27Speaker 9: Is spotify have.
- 24:28Speaker 8: No IDEA but i did a section on the rookie
- 24:30Speaker 8: quarterbacks in the first week of, the preseason and there
- 24:35Speaker 8: were a group of rookie quarterbacks. That, shined yeah you,
- 24:41Speaker 8: know what the common thread in those rookie quarterbacks.
- 24:44Speaker 1: Was played a lot of, college football exactly. The, stars
- 24:50Speaker 1: Yes What anthony richards did?
- 24:52Speaker 7: Not do start very many Games? In florida was?
- 24:55Speaker 1: IT thirteen? I?
- 24:55Speaker 8: Think oh AND so, I mean i guess there's always
- 25:03Speaker 8: value for a team that you know in a league
- 25:05Speaker 8: where we've seen teams.
- 25:11Speaker 9: What's The word i'm, looking, for.
- 25:12Speaker 8: Rejuvenate reacclimate there's a different World With, Baker Mayfield, Daniel
- 25:18Speaker 8: Jones sam.
- 25:19Speaker 10: Donald, reclamation, project reclamation.
- 25:22Speaker 8: Reclamation Projects So anthony richions certainly could be one of those.
- 25:27Speaker 8: Reclamation PROJECTS but i don't think that there's anybody out
- 25:31Speaker 8: there hankering to. Do that if, they were the culture
- 25:34Speaker 8: would have gotten, an offer and if, there were the
- 25:36Speaker 8: cults were taken something that they're but they were never
- 25:39Speaker 8: offered anything of any note to make it work there
- 25:42Speaker 8: well for a player that THEY drafted i believe.
- 25:44Speaker 3: Fourth overall on top, of that another interesting one Is.
- 25:48Speaker 3: That MINNESOTA and i think this was the story last
- 25:50Speaker 3: week that you had, YOU said i got. A run
- 25:52Speaker 3: there's there's big news Breaking Today. Kyler, murray yes what
- 25:56Speaker 3: HAPPENS with jj McCarthy from, here.
- 26:00Speaker 10: Oh he's gonna Be in minnesota.
- 26:01Speaker 8: This year we we do believe that Unless the vikings
- 26:04Speaker 8: all of a sudden decide to trade him AND and
- 26:06Speaker 8: i guess, you know something like that's, always, possible, Like
- 26:09Speaker 8: oh i'll give you a. Scenario knocking we don't want, any,
- 26:11Speaker 8: Injuries right BUT like i always go, back to it
- 26:15Speaker 8: was a preseason roughly ten, years ago roughly ten, years
- 26:18Speaker 8: ago And The minnesota Vikings Had teddy bridgewater dropping back
- 26:26Speaker 8: to pass and.
- 26:28Speaker 9: He basically tore up. His, Knee yep and they had great.
- 26:31Speaker 8: For another quarterback on the eve of, the season and
- 26:33Speaker 8: they wound up trading quite a Bit For.
- 26:36Speaker 9: Sam, bradford right.
- 26:41Speaker 10: What team would do THAT for jj McCarthy if they were?
- 26:43Speaker 9: An injury what team would?
- 26:46Speaker 3: Do?
- 26:46Speaker 1: THAT nobody, i think, No, ONE yeah, I can't i
- 26:50Speaker 1: can't think it, seems yeah.
- 26:53Speaker 10: Hold on, HOLD on i think. You're, wrong really what
- 26:57Speaker 10: if and we don't want.
- 26:58Speaker 9: To happen it's not Even.
- 27:02Speaker 7: The chargers you're going to go there with?
- 27:03Speaker 8: This, one oh there, you go there you Go the
- 27:08Speaker 8: chargers because of.
- 27:10Speaker 1: The. Hardball. Yeah wow well it's, Interesting THOUGH but i
- 27:14Speaker 1: see these Guys Like zach Wilson's The. TREY lances, i
- 27:17Speaker 1: mean they stay in the league and they kick around
- 27:19Speaker 1: as a backup or a third stringer. Or whatever but,
- 27:22Speaker 1: This league Adam, and chad, you know it doesn't wait.
- 27:25Speaker 1: For anybody this League is this league is gonna, move
- 27:27Speaker 1: on And The carson becks are going to, come in
- 27:29Speaker 1: and The bow nix's are going to, come in and
- 27:32Speaker 1: and you're all of a sudden on the outside. Looking
- 27:34Speaker 1: in it's it's just the way.
- 27:35Speaker 8: It goes and and and again we've seen this influx
- 27:40Speaker 8: of rookie quarterbacks now and and and the quarterbacks we,
- 27:43Speaker 8: talked about the QUARTERBACKS that i.
- 27:44Speaker 9: Talked about i'm a Pat.
- 27:46Speaker 8: Like i'm just gonna give you this list from Just,
- 27:48Speaker 8: the again it's one weekend of, the preseason, one, weekend
- 27:52Speaker 8: RIGHT so i.
- 27:52Speaker 9: Don't want to get too excited.
- 27:54Speaker 10: About it but tell me which.
- 27:56Speaker 9: These quarterbacks are.
- 27:57Speaker 8: Really Impressive, Drew Aller, Carson Beck, Ty Simpson, Fernander Mendoza,
- 28:04Speaker 8: Haines king Kate, Klub Nick, Jalen Daniels. Garrett nussma they
- 28:08Speaker 8: all played very well, one weekend. One weekend but that's eight. Rookie,
- 28:13Speaker 8: quarterbacks well and, To me i'm very curious to how
- 28:18Speaker 8: they do.
- 28:18Speaker 9: The rest of. The preseason maybe it was just one.
- 28:19Speaker 10: Game flash but usually these.
- 28:20Speaker 8: Guys get, out there, you're, like boy this guy looks
- 28:23Speaker 8: like he's got it, right away or, he doesn't and
- 28:25Speaker 8: those guys look like they.
- 28:26Speaker 6: HAD it i think there's something to be said for
- 28:28Speaker 6: the lack of game planning defensively in week one of
- 28:31Speaker 6: the preseason allows these rookie quarterbacks to play as well as.
- 28:34Speaker 6: They did we'll see if they're able to keep that
- 28:36Speaker 6: up as defenses start to form game plans and here
- 28:39Speaker 6: in week two. And three my question for you is
- 28:43Speaker 6: we Talked About davis web and it's hot start as a.
- 28:45Speaker 6: Play caller are there other situations that you can refer
- 28:49Speaker 6: back to where a head coach slash play Caller Laka
- 28:52Speaker 6: sean payton hands it over to the young upcoming quarterback
- 28:58Speaker 6: COACH or oc and how did that go in? Season
- 29:02Speaker 6: one how often did the head coach have to step
- 29:05Speaker 6: in and call plays for a series or two or
- 29:08Speaker 6: rain things back In h do you have something like
- 29:10Speaker 6: that in your experience that you could reference in relation
- 29:14Speaker 6: To This Sean Payton davis web situation Here.
- 29:16Speaker 7: In denver.
- 29:19Speaker 9: That's a good question off the top of.
- 29:23Speaker 8: My, head, well really maybe the ONLY thing i could
- 29:26Speaker 8: think of Would Be mike shannan give me a play
- 29:28Speaker 8: Called The.
- 29:28Speaker 1: Gary kubiak, yeah.
- 29:31Speaker 8: Yeah Right like mike was a highly accomplished, play caller
- 29:36Speaker 8: He allowed gary to do more and more.
- 29:37Speaker 10: Of it and look how that.
- 29:39Speaker 8: Worked OUT and i, THINK that, I mean i'm sure,
- 29:43Speaker 8: it's happened but there aren't too many coaches as accomplished
- 29:47Speaker 8: As A sean Payton Or mike shanahan who've seeded play
- 29:50Speaker 8: calling duties to, an, unproven aspiring ascending. Assistant coach, now
- 29:58Speaker 8: again Everybody knew gary wud be a, head coach, and
- 30:00Speaker 8: was and he turned out to be great and helped
- 30:02Speaker 8: Everyone Another super bowl as a.
- 30:03Speaker 10: Head coach.
- 30:05Speaker 8: And Everybody Thinks davis webb's gonna be head coaching and
- 30:07Speaker 8: he's going to be. One DAY but i don't know
- 30:10Speaker 8: how he's gonna be as a PLAY called i don't know,
- 30:11Speaker 8: that yet but you gotta you gotta start feeding him
- 30:14Speaker 8: and let him take baby steps to see how he's.
- 30:16Speaker 4: Gonna do last thing, For You Adam.
- 30:18Speaker 3: Adam scheffer WITH, this Espn von miller signs With The
- 30:21Speaker 3: dallas cowboys and for the last. Three years it felt
- 30:23Speaker 3: Like He's john cusack with a trench coat and a
- 30:26Speaker 3: boom box Outside of, broncos facility, being like please take.
- 30:29Speaker 3: Me back do you know was there any interest On
- 30:31Speaker 3: the broncos side of Bringing, in VAUGHAN because I know
- 30:33Speaker 3: vaughn was interested in.
- 30:33Speaker 1: COMING back.
- 30:36Speaker 7: I never.
- 30:36Speaker 8: HEARD that, I mean i know they brought it up at,
- 30:38Speaker 8: one POINT but i had Spoken to von a couple
- 30:41Speaker 8: OF times i communicated with him. This offseason never once
- 30:45Speaker 8: did he say, to me, you Know like i'm thinking
- 30:46Speaker 8: about going back to den like that didn't. Come up
- 30:48Speaker 8: like there were some other teams that, came UP but
- 30:52Speaker 8: i don't in, our interactions and there were, A few
- 30:55Speaker 8: i Don't recall denver.
- 30:56Speaker 3: Coming Up ADAM schefter espn joined us every week always
- 30:59Speaker 3: pretty at, The, time adam thank you.
- 31:01Speaker 1: So much it's a great Week About.
- 31:04Speaker 4: ADAM schefter espn joined us On the. Ramos law you've
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- 31:07Speaker 1: You've got to clarify what you were just talking About
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- 31:15Speaker 1: Say ANYTHING but i don't think that people you're you're
- 31:18Speaker 1: being total boomer. Right now you you, excuse me you
- 31:22Speaker 1: call me of being boomer and you're going full seate
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- 31:28Speaker 7: The reference YESTERDAY and i got it within the first.
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- 31:40Speaker 1: In there about twenty minutes Until the broncos start up.
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- 34:01Speaker 1: Was Interesting when adam was talking about these quarterbacks and
- 34:04Speaker 1: again it's just preseason week, number, one right but these
- 34:07Speaker 1: young quarterbacks getting an opportunity and clearly Down In La
- 34:10Speaker 1: ty simpson is being groomed as the as the second
- 34:13Speaker 1: coming Right when stafford decides to hang. It up but.
- 34:16Speaker 1: He's right all those guys played a lot of. College football.
- 34:19Speaker 1: YOU know, i, Mean Listen bo nicks, comes in, he's mature,
- 34:22Speaker 1: he's Smart And sean, payton, says look he's got a
- 34:25Speaker 1: MIND that i can mold immediately to my system and.
- 34:29Speaker 1: Play Football Carson, beck brett how long was he? In college?
- 34:33Speaker 1: Eight years? Ten, years yeah guy's got a kid in,
- 34:36Speaker 1: HIGH school. I think, i mean but you KNOW what.
- 34:38Speaker 1: I mean these Guys Coach mike, sanfordsier too these guys
- 34:42Speaker 1: playing a lot of. College ball it's not this coming out.
- 34:43Speaker 1: Early stuff it's these guys now playing a lot and
- 34:46Speaker 1: they're able to step in right away and grasp concepts
- 34:49Speaker 1: that maybe younger.
- 34:49Speaker 11: Guys, can't yeah THE old covid generation of college football
- 34:52Speaker 11: players are now IN. The, nfl gosh IT was i
- 34:55Speaker 11: was looking at a couple of, the rookies even for
- 34:58Speaker 11: the that Are. The broncos they are like twenty f
- 35:00Speaker 11: five year old rookies that played seven years. Of college
- 35:04Speaker 11: it's it's. REMARKABLE stuff, I mean i look. At that
- 35:07Speaker 11: so if you were.
- 35:08Speaker 6: A college quarterback coach and your quarterback came, to you
- 35:13Speaker 6: he had potential after year three to maybe get drafted second.
- 35:17Speaker 6: Third round maybe he's only had fifteen starts versus coming
- 35:21Speaker 6: back for his senior season getting another twelve. Fourteen starts
- 35:25Speaker 6: maybe you guys are in a. Playoff team what's your
- 35:27Speaker 6: advice to? That kid my advice is. Pretty simple chase
- 35:31Speaker 6: the money and where's the and where's?
- 35:33Speaker 1: The?
- 35:33Speaker 11: Money now it's in college football because that same guy
- 35:37Speaker 11: that you're talking about it is probably a fourth to
- 35:40Speaker 11: seventh round draft pick in that year's. Draft class but
- 35:44Speaker 11: you give him one more year of maturation and and,
- 35:47Speaker 11: and oh by, the way you're probably gonna be about
- 35:49Speaker 11: a three to five million. Dollar quarterback there's not a
- 35:53Speaker 11: lot of three to five million dollar quarterbacks that are
- 35:55Speaker 11: drafted in the fourth to? Seventh round are they right?
- 35:57Speaker 11: Side check so it's chased. The money and that's a
- 36:00Speaker 11: crazy thing is that it's almost Like the it's a
- 36:03Speaker 11: positive For The National.
- 36:04Speaker 7: FOOTBALL league i think so because they don't.
- 36:05Speaker 1: Have to develop these these very green quarterbacks.
- 36:08Speaker 6: AS much i think it's the opposite of what happened
- 36:10Speaker 6: IN the nba WHERE the nba the overall play went
- 36:13Speaker 6: down because they had so many One and doun's coming out.
- 36:15Speaker 6: Of college now we're asking these quarterbacks to play another
- 36:18Speaker 6: year in college because they can get paid via nil
- 36:20Speaker 6: and they come into the league far, more experience and
- 36:23Speaker 6: we Just had adam schefter on before you. Came in
- 36:25Speaker 6: he was talking about these success of all these rookie
- 36:27Speaker 6: quarterbacks and a week at one of the preseason when it.
- 36:30Speaker 3: Was Juxtaposed With, anthony richardson WHO played i think like
- 36:33Speaker 3: thirteen games past high school that he can't do anything.
- 36:38Speaker 3: Right NOW and i, ASKED him i, was like what's
- 36:39Speaker 3: the Market For? Anthony Richardson With daniel jones playing Well?
- 36:42Speaker 3: In indianapolis, he goes was it an? Entire offseason there?
- 36:46Speaker 3: Isn't one was there a Trade For? ANTHONY richardson i, was,
- 36:48Speaker 3: like no it just seems weird to ME because i.
- 36:50Speaker 3: DON'T know, i mean, you Know, quarterback stanford he seems
- 36:54Speaker 3: to have, some talent maybe, raw talent.
- 36:56Speaker 11: But talent it's Almost Like anthony richardson's like Equivalent Of
- 37:01Speaker 11: peyton watson where it might take to, Year, four yeah
- 37:04Speaker 11: where all of a sudden you really see the worth
- 37:06Speaker 11: and value and if you sprinkle in an injury and
- 37:08Speaker 11: you miss him time and all of, a sudden what?
- 37:10Speaker 11: Are you are you worth twenty some million dollars annually?
- 37:14Speaker 11: Or not and it's hard to say, That.
- 37:15Speaker 1: Coach i've got. A malfunction i've got. A mouth you
- 37:18Speaker 1: have a lot. Of, them yeah, You're Right but i've
- 37:20Speaker 1: got a malfunction. With MALFUNCTIONS if I if i like
- 37:23Speaker 1: to watch a quarterback throw, THE football i like. That
- 37:26Speaker 1: QUARTERBACK and i love To Watch Anthony richardson richardson throw.
- 37:30Speaker 1: THE football i mean HE'S it's, i mean it's, it's.
- 37:35Speaker 1: GORGEOUS man i mean.
- 37:36Speaker 7: The position is SO much.
- 37:38Speaker 1: I know THAT'S why I said i have.
- 37:39Speaker 11: A malfunction malfunction leads to Even watching bonnicks throw the football.
- 37:44Speaker 11: Out here if you, watch him like, just today focus
- 37:46Speaker 11: your eyes on routes, on air watch the ball jump
- 37:50Speaker 11: Out Of sam, Ellinger's hand watch the ball jump out At.
- 37:52Speaker 11: Bon nicks and if you would were just coming and
- 37:54Speaker 11: landing on this Earth, from mars you'd, probably say that
- 37:57Speaker 11: guy the, ball whatever he's throwing gun out a lot
- 38:00Speaker 11: harder than the.
- 38:01Speaker 1: Other guy And That's. Sam ellinger but that's not.
- 38:03Speaker 11: The position bonix has already proven In The National football
- 38:06Speaker 11: league that he's. A winner he's already proven that he
- 38:08Speaker 11: can extend the, plays properly and so it's just. So
- 38:11Speaker 11: much there's so much more to it than solely throwing.
- 38:13Speaker 11: THE football, I mean i was joking about it a
- 38:15Speaker 11: year ago at a really talented high school sophomore quarterback,
- 38:19Speaker 11: who's still, you know obviously going to high SCHOOL that i,
- 38:21Speaker 11: coach AT and, i said he might be the best
- 38:23Speaker 11: thrower of the football in State of colorado right now at,
- 38:24Speaker 11: Any Level, Alan lyne but.
- 38:26Speaker 1: That doesn't necessarily make him anywhere near the.
- 38:28Speaker 11: Best quarterback he's still got years and years of maturation
- 38:32Speaker 11: and learning and growing.
- 38:33Speaker 3: And developing what did you, think of, You Know davis
- 38:36Speaker 3: webb his first game. CALLING plays i guess he did
- 38:40Speaker 3: one last year in, the preseason but it felt like
- 38:43Speaker 3: to me there was a lot more rhythm and tempo to.
- 38:45Speaker 3: The OFFENSE and i know it's, the PRESEASON but i
- 38:47Speaker 3: think that accounts for something that.
- 38:48Speaker 4: It looked like there was a there's a steady beat.
- 38:51Speaker 11: To, IT yeah, I mean i think it's a combination.
- 38:54Speaker 11: OF things i think the Fact That davis webb has
- 38:57Speaker 11: that intimate knowledge of.
- 39:00Speaker 1: Of what his quarterbacks really like.
- 39:01Speaker 11: To, do yeah he's in there, Every day he's he's
- 39:04Speaker 11: getting the instant feedback over the course the last two
- 39:07Speaker 11: Years From. Jared steadham he's Been with stitty obviously for
- 39:10Speaker 11: two years now going on, year three sam ellingers it
- 39:13Speaker 11: seems like a very like. Intellectual guy you hear his
- 39:16Speaker 11: thoughts after the. Preseason game he understands the game of
- 39:21Speaker 11: football at a very. ADVANCED level i think the entire quarterback.
- 39:23Speaker 11: Group does And Then davis webb knows all the stuff
- 39:26Speaker 11: that those guys. Really like therefore he can get.
- 39:29Speaker 1: To them with. More frequency, and frankly you are in
- 39:31Speaker 1: rhythm as a play.
- 39:32Speaker 7: Caller if the.
- 39:33Speaker 1: Plays.
- 39:33Speaker 11: WORK sure i mean if if your first and ten call,
- 39:36Speaker 11: gets negative to, guess what you're out.
- 39:38Speaker 6: Of rhythm you don't have much of. A rhythm well
- 39:41Speaker 6: where did the? Stumbles come we know they're going to
- 39:43Speaker 6: Come for Davis web where where did they? Come from
- 39:46Speaker 6: as a as a PLAY caller i called plays As
- 39:48Speaker 6: A pop, warner coach.
- 39:49Speaker 1: Of, COURSE yeah i will say it's the. Same, everywhere no.
- 39:52Speaker 1: It's not it? Truly is it truly is the.
- 39:54Speaker 7: Same everywhere the amount of complexity in detail.
- 39:58Speaker 1: For yes that.
- 39:58Speaker 11: That's true but the question that you used to ask
- 40:00Speaker 11: it is. The same the stumbling blocks are there no
- 40:03Speaker 11: matter what level you're. Coaching at it really, is true
- 40:05Speaker 11: and what it is is when you get punched in
- 40:07Speaker 11: the mouth as a play caller and all of a
- 40:09Speaker 11: sudden you had a, great plan an. Illustrious plan this
- 40:11Speaker 11: is gonna. Be money you sold it to, your team
- 40:14Speaker 11: and all of a sudden you get out there and
- 40:15Speaker 11: it's three and. Out fest that's when we're gonna find
- 40:18Speaker 11: out what he really is all about is how do
- 40:20Speaker 11: you respond to getting punched in the mouth as a?
- 40:22Speaker 1: Play caller what's a good to take for you to
- 40:24Speaker 1: give up play? Calling duties do you want me? To
- 40:26Speaker 1: did i've seen last year and. PRETTY unimpressed i saw.
- 40:29Speaker 1: THE playoffs, i uh, we'll, Talk, okay well so.
- 40:33Speaker 11: He didn't so you didn't like the seventy points that
- 40:35Speaker 11: we put Up against erie for a.
- 40:36Speaker 1: SCHOOL record I mean i thought that was. Pretty, good
- 40:38Speaker 1: no but we are we Talking About Sean. Payton davis
- 40:40Speaker 1: but like it's gotta be hard man for for guys
- 40:43Speaker 1: like you and for guys LIKE pay, i mean the
- 40:44Speaker 1: guys who will be these offensive guys and you're calling
- 40:46Speaker 1: the players and you're feeling the rhythm to give, it
- 40:48Speaker 1: up it's got to be a bit of an angst.
- 40:49Speaker 1: Ridden situation it's funny for me coaching high school football
- 40:53Speaker 1: now having done the college thing for twenty some, odd
- 40:55Speaker 1: years that's the ONE thing.
- 40:56Speaker 7: I will not.
- 40:57Speaker 1: Give Up if i'm gonna.
- 40:59Speaker 11: Coach high school, foot ball you better. Believe it i'm
- 41:01Speaker 11: gonna call some. Freaking ballplays and you, Know what i'm
- 41:04Speaker 11: not just gonna call. Varsity ballplays i'm gonna show up
- 41:06Speaker 11: randomly at a freshman game AND a. Jv game i'm
- 41:09Speaker 11: gonna start dialing. Up ballplays and it's about as much
- 41:11Speaker 11: Fun as i'll.
- 41:11Speaker 3: Ever, Have Uh mike sanford is gonna be on for
- 41:14Speaker 3: the next four hours during a practice along WITH d
- 41:17Speaker 3: Mac and.
- 41:18Speaker 1: Columbus.
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- 41:30Speaker 11: football players that lives in our community is also a
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- 41:38Speaker 11: Had sorry, FRIDAY night i had had to reschedule my
- 41:41Speaker 11: scrimmage multiple times because of, lightning DELAYS and i truly
- 41:45Speaker 11: just blanked OUT that i was gonna be on the
- 41:47Speaker 11: halftime in post game show and For nine news for
- 41:50Speaker 11: The actual broncos preseason game halftime show. IN postgame i
- 41:54Speaker 11: get a call about thirty minutes Before and, i'm, Like
- 41:57Speaker 11: Uh i'm I'm at valior. Right NOW and i turn
- 42:01Speaker 11: on the turn on to watch the pregame or the preseason,
- 42:05Speaker 11: game HALFTIME and i see none Other Than.
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- 42:48Speaker 12: noun definition a person whose behavior contradicts their stated beliefs.
- 42:53Speaker 12: Or FEELINGS and i bring this up because when We
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- 42:59Speaker 12: Few Months von miller has Been Like john cusack and,
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- 43:05Speaker 12: payton's Office Blasting peter Gabriel. And moser You roasted brett
- 43:10Speaker 12: for using. That, reference you who only knows pop culture
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- 43:25Speaker 1: Behind, that yeah that's a. Good point that's a really
- 43:28Speaker 1: good point of. All people i'm still gonna. Do it by,
- 43:31Speaker 1: The way i'm still gonna stick it.
- 43:33Speaker 6: To you what was the Reference That sean payton used
- 43:36Speaker 6: in the press conference for like a Nineteen, the okay
- 43:41Speaker 6: so that's that's past most of. The, AUDIENCES yeah.
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- 44:36Speaker 3: be back out here tomorrow for the final day of
- 44:38Speaker 3: open practice And the broncos.
- 44:40Speaker 7: AS well.
- 44:43Speaker 1: I haven't driven you crazy. Enough already, all right one.
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- 44:49Speaker 1: BE here a. GOOD point i have a wonderful day
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