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- 0:00Hello there and welcome back to
- 0:01Hydroponics Daily, your go-to podcast for everything soilless cultivation.
- 0:06I'm your host, Dr. Russell Sharp, the founder of Utreema Limited.
- 0:09We make fertilizers, biostimulants and biopesticides, all completely unique
- 0:13and you won't find them the chemistry anywhere else.
- 0:17On a previous episode, I talked about dosatrons and talked
- 0:20about how they can dose a correct amount of
- 0:23fertilizer into a certain amount of water in your
- 0:26stream through your pipe and direct to
- 0:29your plants so using a dosatron it takes liquid
- 0:33from a from a fertilizer container or
- 0:36from a a tank and then
- 0:39doses it into the water stream that's going to the plants to
- 0:42produce a fertigation solution obviously they're only used
- 0:45on run-to-waste systems large run-to-waste
- 0:48systems otherwise it's not worth having a dosatron so medium
- 0:51scale greenhouse upwards and it's
- 0:54run-to-waste because if it's circled back it would just continually
- 0:56be adding fertilizer so obviously the alternative to
- 1:00that in a recyclability system is just having a fertigation
- 1:03tank that you would add the fertilizer to as a set amount and then you would
- 1:07maybe monitor ph up and ph down um and and other aspects of that and add other
- 1:15nutrients to it but there are other options if you're you have a run to waste
- 1:19system run to Waste can mean just adding it,
- 1:21it goes out of the pots and into the soil afterwards.
- 1:24So it's not as bad as it sounds, but it still is leaking into the environment.
- 1:29There are a few alternatives. So I just wanted to talk about alternatives to
- 1:33dosatrons. There is something called a Venturi injector. Now that's not a trade name.
- 1:38Relies on the venturi effect where injectors
- 1:42use a pressure differential pressure differential created
- 1:45by water flowing through a constricted section of pipe
- 1:48and this pressure drop draws fertilizer or
- 1:51chemical concentrate into the irrigation line a lot
- 1:54cheaper than dosatrons no moving parts unlike
- 1:57dosatrons just like dosatrons no power is required
- 2:00very simple to install can be
- 2:03used in line doesn't require sort of attaching to
- 2:07walls or anything like that like a dosatron but the
- 2:11injection rate varies with flow and crucially pressure whereas that doesn't
- 2:15with a dosatron it's also less accurate and not as repeatable as a dosatron
- 2:21so if you've got unless you're really really you know struggling for debt for.
- 2:28For budget then i would stick with a dosatron type there
- 2:32is electronic electric meter
- 2:35pumps so you could have a pump that adds it to the
- 2:38to the solution and there could be a diaphragm pump
- 2:41or a peristaltic pump you know so
- 2:44that could be run by electrics or air pressure
- 2:47those sorts of pumps you know and you could have an air compressor what.
- 2:51Are the advantages of having an electric pump versus a dosatron obviously you're
- 2:54going to need an electrical supply and it's
- 2:57probably going to need to be linked up to a computer but it provides flexibility
- 3:00in dosing both the fertilizer and any
- 3:03ph or anything like that so you can vary the
- 3:06flow rate using sensors or at
- 3:10a whim remotely as well so and then
- 3:13potentially more accurate as well when properly calibrated
- 3:16but requires that electrical power a lot more
- 3:19complex system so this is not a medium scale hydroponic
- 3:23system this is a very large scale system and typically
- 3:26a higher life cycle cost and susceptible
- 3:29to damage corrosive chemicals if materials are mismatched as
- 3:32well when you're choosing the right pump you have to be really careful
- 3:35about what materials you can use and then
- 3:38obviously a the technical term for a dosatron is a
- 3:40hydraulic proportional injector which doesn't
- 3:43roll off the tongue hence the way people just chose the
- 3:46leading brand to call them but you can buy
- 3:49non dosatron brands like mix rights injector
- 3:52meter amyad injectors and so
- 3:55you could choose a non dosatron branded one and as
- 3:59i say they're water-driven pistons and they proportionally
- 4:02inject concentrate based on the water volume passing through them not the pressure
- 4:06no electricity required just like a normal dosatron well the drawbacks though
- 4:10of using a non-branded dosatron injector well the potential for lower build
- 4:16quality and longevity so you could be you know.
- 4:20That's something you have to weigh up maybe get experience from people who've
- 4:23used them and compared them to dosatrons in the past look at Reddit and other
- 4:26forums to see where they've used it.
- 4:29There's going to be less options available. They're not going to have the range
- 4:33because Dose Strong is the leading brand.
- 4:34It's got lots of options for the chemicals that go through it,
- 4:37so like the pH up, pH down.
- 4:38It might need specific materials and different flow rate, different dosing rates,
- 4:44so they might have less range of inclusion rates,
- 4:50so 0.5% or 0.1%, the very low end or the very high end.
- 4:57And service and support less global service spare parts availability things
- 5:01like this you know once it goes wrong can you get a spare part for it if you're
- 5:04buying it off alibaba for example,
- 5:06and then obviously the other option is just to use a fertigation tank
- 5:09even if you're not using a recirculatory system you
- 5:12could potentially just feed the water into a fertigation tank add
- 5:16your nutrients and then flow out from there so very low
- 5:19equipment costs compared to a dosatron no moving parts no
- 5:22power required but you know neither require
- 5:25power really but but the disadvantage of that is no
- 5:28proportion the proportional inconsistent dosing
- 5:31you know it's up to the user to dose correctly and also it's sat there for a
- 5:38long time so it could grow bacteria microbial growth biofilms things like this
- 5:43so you know anywhere where there's a tank with liquid sitting in it that's water-based
- 5:48you could get growth so not really used.
- 5:52So yeah so they are some of the options there for alternatives if you've used any of those then,
- 5:58i'd love to hear your feedback if you're especially
- 6:02if you're in run to waste so these would be particularly common
- 6:05in america and sort of medium-sized greenhouses where
- 6:09it's sort of run to waste systems where you you might you
- 6:12know these are good systems where you've got one crop
- 6:15that's hydroponic and then you're able to take the spent fertigation
- 6:18solution and apply it to a field crop that's the ideal
- 6:21situation because then you're not wasting any of
- 6:24that solution so obviously you don't
- 6:27have the benefits of recycle recirculating the the feed
- 6:30that's the disadvantage runs waste the advantage is that it's
- 6:32a lot more simple so that's why
- 6:35a lot of people use them on medium scale glass house operations so if i was
- 6:40in a grow even if it was in a grow room or a vertical farm i would always be
- 6:45looking at recirculatory systems because you want to be saving that water and
- 6:49saving that fertigation and
- 6:50you don't want the issues of how to dispose of it as well because you know.
- 6:56The EPA or the Environment Agency will come down on you hard.
- 6:59Even in the US, UK, especially in Holland, they caught a lot of glass houses
- 7:04that were supposed to be recirculating their system, actually dumping their
- 7:09fertigation solution into the canals.
- 7:11And they catch them all in the winter because the fertigation solution is nice
- 7:16and warm and the canals freeze over and snow gets on them.
- 7:20And then they could just fly over with a drone or a helicopter and see where
- 7:25the ice has melted in the canals and stuff like that.
- 7:27So be careful. People are always watching you. Whatever you're doing,
- 7:30there's always somebody with a nosy neighbor checking out what's going on.
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- 8:15for today i'm off to the gym i'll see you again tomorrow goodbye.