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I Am All In…Again: It’s Giving Mother Gilmore (Season 3 Episode 10 “That'll Do, Pig”) · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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  Speaker 1: I am all in again. Oh, let's just do.
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  Speaker 2: I am all in again with Scott Patterson in iHeartRadio podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I am all in Podcasts one
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  Speaker 1: eleven Productions. iHeartRadio Media. iHeart Podcasts. We're going to recap
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  Speaker 1: episode ten, season three. That'll do pig with Jessica Kuiper Hi.
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  Speaker 1: Jessica joining us, So we have an air date for
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  Speaker 1: this episode January fourteenth, two thousand and three. It's Richard's birthday.
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  Speaker 1: His mother tricks arived from England. She's moving back to
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  Speaker 1: the States. Meanwhile, Roy navigates serious drama with Francine at
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  Speaker 1: school and as well as I mean, this is a
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  Speaker 1: big episode for Rory, Gating, Dean and jess boyfriend and
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  Speaker 1: friend stuff. Jamie Babbitt directed, Sheila Lawrence wrote this episode.
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  Speaker 1: But before we get into this, Jessica, what do you
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  Speaker 1: think of this episode?
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  Speaker 2: It was more about This episode was seriously mom oriented.
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  Speaker 2: Now and I do not come from rich people, so
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  Speaker 2: this is a completely different I could still navigate it,
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  Speaker 2: but it's not my people, like well, we didn't have
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  Speaker 2: people like we had. We had people, but the rich people.
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  Speaker 2: This whole scenario is so weird. To me like the mother.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, we love that she's getting it, but we
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  Speaker 2: see where she's getting it from. But it's not her mother,
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  Speaker 2: it's the mother in law. So it's kind of a
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  Speaker 2: whole I don't know, like I have felt that. But
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  Speaker 2: also my mother in law personally is like we have
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  Speaker 2: the same feelings about what's going on in the world
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  Speaker 2: at this time. We're we're navigating fillmore girls later like
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  Speaker 2: earlier on, this is not the world that we're living
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  Speaker 2: in now, so we can can we.
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  Speaker 1: Suggest anything you want and you are and that's fine.
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  Speaker 1: That's what chess for, all right, jessin Rory, Jess and
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  Speaker 1: Roy are making out a lot, and Jess justice being
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  Speaker 1: very aggressive with Rory.
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  Speaker 3: Let me just say, this would be a great time
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  Speaker 3: for Shane to.
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  Speaker 2: Show up and get to be seeing them making out.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just saying I could have had another episode.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just saying, that's that's right. You had more jest
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  Speaker 1: tongue than any other actress alive.
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  Speaker 3: Right, I did.
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  Speaker 1: So they're going to win a carnival. He doesn't want
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  Speaker 1: to go big surprise, so Jess drops her off the carnival.
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  Speaker 1: But then Clara runs into Rory and she's with Dean,
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  Speaker 1: and then they all go to the carnival together reluctantly
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  Speaker 1: of course, but there's all that tension and Claire's Claire.
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  Speaker 1: I thought Taylor Scout Thompson was hysterical in this episode,
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  Speaker 1: just just giving it the jests and the constant questions,
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  Speaker 1: and she's just pestering him with questions. He's very annoyed.
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  Speaker 1: Not not a great look for him.
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  Speaker 2: I thought it was not great in this episode. It
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  Speaker 2: was very much Dean in this episode, right, I mean
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  Speaker 2: it was, I mean, everybody was.
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  Speaker 1: Not a good showing for Jess. I thought very I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's just everything annoyed this guy.
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  Speaker 2: That the second we like started liking him, they started
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  Speaker 2: making us hate him.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if that's the writing or well.
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  Speaker 1: Sure, sure it's the writing. Yeah. But so Roy's telling
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  Speaker 1: Jess that she and Dean ran into each other and
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  Speaker 1: you know they went to have pie at Al's.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, we're all mad though, because everybody did like
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  Speaker 2: Dean better, right, and my crazy Dean was obviously a
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  Speaker 2: better boyfriend. Jess was supposed to be the bad boyfriend, right,
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  Speaker 2: And I guess yes, it played out right. That is
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  Speaker 2: how That's how it's turned out to be the dad
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  Speaker 2: from This is Us what.
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  Speaker 3: It's We're in domore girl's world, Go back, go back, right.
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  Speaker 1: But it's okay, we can jump into other worlds. Wo
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  Speaker 1: though magic of TV. Right.
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  Speaker 3: They both did so well in TV and stuff afterwards,
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  Speaker 3: it's like they did that.
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  Speaker 1: There's there's no there's no denying that.
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  Speaker 3: And I can't. I can't. I can't do that. I
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  Speaker 3: can't make a.
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  Speaker 1: Choice now, Okay, all right, I'm not.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, obviously me, I make bad choices. I would
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  Speaker 2: choose choose Jeff and Jess. Obviously I would choose Jess
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  Speaker 2: because I.
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  Speaker 1: Think a lot of women would make that same choice.
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  Speaker 1: And I think, right, he's he's kind of an archetypal
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  Speaker 1: bad boy, bad boy character that you know everybody, all women,
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  Speaker 1: not all but.
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  Speaker 3: Not no, no, no, what do I know?
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  Speaker 2: Just the mean ones, the traumatic girls that love the
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  Speaker 2: cute boys.
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  Speaker 3: Job. Well, he shouldn't have and she didn't. She went,
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  Speaker 3: what do you think of what?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so, Jessica, what do you think of Dean? You know,
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  Speaker 1: they bump into each each other and then they're going
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  Speaker 1: Then they go to Al's and he wants to be friends.
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  Speaker 1: What did you think of that.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, he who wants to be friends? They don't. Neither
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  Speaker 3: of them want to be friends.
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  Speaker 1: They don't.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw that. He's like, no. Dean was like
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  Speaker 3: I was friends with her. You you were friends with her,
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  Speaker 3: and look how that worked out. And I'm going to
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  Speaker 3: be friends with her now. That was very fun. I
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  Speaker 3: really liked him.
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  Speaker 2: I actually liked him much more then, and I was like,
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  Speaker 2: oh my god.
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  Speaker 1: Right, but he's you know, he's yeah, he's maybe he's
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  Speaker 1: putting himself back in the in contention for Rory's heart
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  Speaker 1: because now there's some growth, right, he's he Now he's
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  Speaker 1: going applying to Southern Connecticut State. Yes, if they could
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  Speaker 1: be friends, she seemed very happy that that's all he
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  Speaker 1: was asking for. But you know, she sees this guy's
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  Speaker 1: got some some prospects in the future. He's going to
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  Speaker 1: Southern Connecticut State.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, all of a sudden, he's going to a four
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  Speaker 3: year college.
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  Speaker 1: Pulling, pulling himself up his.
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  Speaker 3: Bootstraps, like I'm bad for job.
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's shift gears here. And Paris seems to
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  Speaker 1: be in love. I mean, she's in La La lad
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  Speaker 1: Man and she's not paying attention to calculus class and
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  Speaker 1: it's okay to cancel a student council meeting, and she
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  Speaker 1: met her boyfriend Jamie's parents over Christmas break and she
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  Speaker 1: had a great Christmas.
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  Speaker 3: I'm very happy for right. I don't know how it goes.
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  Speaker 2: Because I haven't seen the rest, but sounds like it's
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  Speaker 2: good for Paris.
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  Speaker 3: Like I'm actually everybody.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like everybody does have a soft spart a
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  Speaker 2: soft spot in their heart for Paris, don't you think so?
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  Speaker 1: I do? Yeah. I think she she needed, she needed
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  Speaker 1: something to come into her life and you know, make
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  Speaker 1: her feel loved and appreciated. Right.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like she specifically needed a boy to pay
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  Speaker 2: attention to her.
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  Speaker 3: So that's really cute.
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  Speaker 1: Now Franccene comes into the mix here and decides to
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  Speaker 1: have a supplementary student council meeting that Paris is not
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  Speaker 1: involved in, and they vote against the Protestations of Rory
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  Speaker 1: to have the promise, spend the money most of the
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  Speaker 1: money that's in the budget.
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  Speaker 3: Not a really bad idea.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, it's such a bad idea. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: they want the Wadsworth mansion, they want to have a big,
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  Speaker 1: splashy prom but they do this without Paris being present.
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  Speaker 1: And that seems to be a problem. So then Rory
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  Speaker 1: pulls Francine. You know, obviously it's a power play for Francine.
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  Speaker 1: Francine's aw a window of opportunity. She took it. And
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  Speaker 1: now Rory pulls Francene into the bathroom and threatens says
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  Speaker 1: she's finished being her go between. Have you ever, Jessica,
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  Speaker 1: been in a situation like do you remember in high school?
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  Speaker 1: Do you remember ever being in a situation like this?
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  Speaker 1: Were you involved in a power play like that?
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  Speaker 3: I was never in a rich high school.
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  Speaker 2: But I was in a regular high school, like a
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  Speaker 2: public high school, right, I mean there were some things
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  Speaker 2: that were power plays, like what this is high school?
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  Speaker 3: But like no, I.
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  Speaker 1: Never had a rivalry in high school.
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  Speaker 2: Or but one time I got in trouble for smoking
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  Speaker 2: cigarettes outside of the theater, and the whole entire well,
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  Speaker 2: the play wasn't concern because then, like either I was
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  Speaker 2: going to get to play the part of the you know,
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  Speaker 2: we were doing a little shop of host and I
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  Speaker 2: was either going to get to play the part Audrey
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  Speaker 2: thought I was playing, or somebody else was.
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  Speaker 3: Going to play.
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  Speaker 2: And we did get in trouble for smoking cigarettes outside
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  Speaker 2: of the theater, but.
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  Speaker 3: I talked my way into getting to do the show.
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  Speaker 2: For the for the whole school because somebody else was
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  Speaker 2: going to have to do. And she got caught praying
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  Speaker 2: that she did get the fourth the weird Yeah, like
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  Speaker 2: it was a big deal, like she really wanted to
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  Speaker 2: play Audrey. But anyways, like they mister Brown, the vice principal,
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  Speaker 2: let me play Audrey for the school, for the entire school.
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  Speaker 3: And you know that's the only time and that this
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  Speaker 3: would make.
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  Speaker 2: Any kind of significance in my life. Yeah, so I
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  Speaker 2: did get in trouble for smoking cigarettes.
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  Speaker 3: Well I got to play.
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  Speaker 1: The part and show you should get in trouble for
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  Speaker 1: smoking cigarettes. They're very bad for you.
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  Speaker 3: Very very bad, and especially in high school.
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  Speaker 1: Speaking of bad behavior, let's get into uh, Richard's sixtieth
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  Speaker 1: birthday party with tricks. Emily calls Lurlei to invite them
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  Speaker 1: for Richard's birthday party. She agrees, but doesn't know what
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  Speaker 1: gifts to get him, so Rory ends up volunteering to
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  Speaker 1: shop for Richard. Richard's excited about his gifts, and then
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  Speaker 1: the doorbell rings and it's his mother tricks and right.
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  Speaker 2: Away, well that's the whole episode.
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  Speaker 1: That's a big, big part of the episode. Sure, Emily
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  Speaker 1: starts freaking out, Well, what do you think of this dynamic?
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's very fun and that's what we should be
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  Speaker 2: seeing stuff like that, Emily. It's not her mother, so
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  Speaker 2: you don't get to see where she came from, right,
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  Speaker 2: So it's kind of very different. It's the it's the
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  Speaker 2: mother in law and so. But I guess they both
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  Speaker 2: grew up kind of rich or they wouldn't both feel
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  Speaker 2: that way, right.
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  Speaker 3: Am I incorrect in saying that?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I don't. I don't know if it has anything.
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  Speaker 3: Oh I think it does with money?
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  Speaker 1: Well everything does, right, everything?
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  Speaker 3: Wow?
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  Speaker 2: In this scenario for sure, Like, this is not a
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  Speaker 2: scenario I would have dealt with in my life, and I.
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  Speaker 3: Grew up very poor.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm assuming this is either just for rich people
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  Speaker 2: or for people who are understanding how that goes.
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  Speaker 1: So when you when you watch an episode like this,
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  Speaker 1: given your background and how you grew up, as you state,
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  Speaker 1: you can't you can't relate to this at all.
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  Speaker 2: I as an actor relate because I can put myself
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  Speaker 2: in those categories, but like as as a human being, right,
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  Speaker 2: But I'm not a huge Gilmore Girls fan. A lot, like,
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  Speaker 2: and I don't know what everybody else deals with, so, like,
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  Speaker 2: I assume that most people who are Gilmore Girls fans
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  Speaker 2: are middle class.
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  Speaker 1: No, it's not. It's everybody. It started out that way. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: it started out middle upper class, right, but I'm telling
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  Speaker 1: you it's now it's everybody.
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  Speaker 3: It's it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all social strata. Every every level of society
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  Speaker 1: watches this show. Yeah anyway, all right, So getting back
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  Speaker 1: to richard sixty birthday tricks. They drop a tricks into
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  Speaker 1: the mix here, and Emily is not happy, and she's
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  Speaker 1: been quite nasty to Emily. She does not like Emily.
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  Speaker 1: Why do you think Jessica that tricks dislikes Emily so much?
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  Speaker 3: That's her baby boy? Right, be perfect?
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  Speaker 1: And isn't it odd how Richard and I've I've talked
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  Speaker 1: about this before and our first go round of this show,
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  Speaker 1: of this podcast, because her second go around. But isn't
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  Speaker 1: it odd that Richard doesn't step in to defend his
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  Speaker 1: wife ever against these put downs?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Right, she must be. She must be very wealthy because
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  Speaker 1: he doesn't want to risk the inheritance, right.
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  Speaker 3: The kids of this generation. Yeah, that's weird.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know if that was like, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: normally you'd feel like, oh, just yeah, but like kids
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  Speaker 2: today aren't being quiet.
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  Speaker 3: So I love that right right?
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  Speaker 2: No, I am like, this is not the same world
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  Speaker 2: that we're living in right now. The Gilmore Goals world
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  Speaker 2: is not the same world that we're living in currently.
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  Speaker 1: That that that Richard and Emily and Tricksie world is
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  Speaker 1: hundreds of that's like tradition going back, you know, sixteen hundreds,
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  Speaker 1: seventeen hundreds, right, that's how people behave back then.
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  Speaker 2: But I think that kids today at this current are
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  Speaker 2: we allowed to talk about what's going on?
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  Speaker 1: What's going on? Sure, you can talk about anything you want.
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  Speaker 3: Its current world.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like those kids are allowed to say stuff
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  Speaker 2: and then just like put those parents off.
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  Speaker 3: Who am I I said it? I don't know that
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  Speaker 3: I should say this right now.
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  Speaker 1: Well, no, it is a phenomenon that is happening in
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  Speaker 1: our society. It's interesting that you bring it up.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, no, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 1: No, it's it's don't apologize. It's a it's a very
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  Speaker 1: interesting and relevant point. It is going on. You're right,
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  Speaker 1: You're one hundred percent right.
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  Speaker 2: People are having problems with their parents and their cousins
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  Speaker 2: and their nephews and their meithas and their uncles and
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  Speaker 2: their aunts.
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  Speaker 3: But are not with it right.
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  Speaker 1: And this is a show that's really grounded in family
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  Speaker 1: and multi generations of family, which is why I think
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  Speaker 1: it resonates so much because people, a lot of people,
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  Speaker 1: you're one hundred percent correct, don't have this dynamic anymore
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  Speaker 1: in their lives. They don't grow up this way. They
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  Speaker 1: don't have a closeness or whatever you know you have
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  Speaker 1: been referring to.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's more of an accumulating manipulation, Yeah, manipulation.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you for that, Thank you, Pat.
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  Speaker 1: All Right, So everyone arrives at the end, and you
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  Speaker 1: did mention before Trixie wanting to come over and inspect
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  Speaker 1: Laurelized house, and she did in a very comical way,
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  Speaker 1: which they borrowed from Amy and Dan lifted that or
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  Speaker 1: Sheila Lawrence lifted that from The Three Stooges. I recall many,
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  Speaker 1: many episodes of The Three Stooges where Moe, Larry and
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  Speaker 1: Curly were behind a landlord or behind an inspector and
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  Speaker 1: he was going through and they were following behind exactly
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  Speaker 1: the way they were doing it in that scene. So
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  Speaker 1: it's it's either yeah, it's three Stooges.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't realize you were such a Three Stooges fan.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I grew up with it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well who doesn't understand that? I mean, well, kids don't,
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  Speaker 3: but I do.
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  Speaker 1: Three stages larious.
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  Speaker 2: They don't know that now that the kids today, they
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  Speaker 2: don't know that now.
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  Speaker 3: But it's okay.
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  Speaker 1: And then they leave and they there's no dialogue. She
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  Speaker 1: just comes in and they leave, and then she's kind
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  Speaker 1: of uh, Laura Rory is staying back to study and
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  Speaker 1: they're going off to the end for a dinner, and
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  Speaker 1: they get to the end.
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  Speaker 3: Is this when big Man and a Little Coat comes up?
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  Speaker 1: You know what you're right, Man on a little Coat.
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  Speaker 1: That was a very Chris Farley.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was super Chris.
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  Speaker 1: It was Chris Farley. And it hit me when she
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  Speaker 1: did it because it's one of my favorite moments and
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  Speaker 1: she's such a great Melissa Crises comedian.
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  Speaker 3: I'm so glad she was on the same show as us, like.
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  Speaker 1: She was doing Chris Farley, wasn't she.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, Yeah, it was and a Little Coat And it
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  Speaker 2: was really I was very kind of subdued, like we
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't notice that if we weren't already aware of.
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  Speaker 3: It, right.
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  Speaker 1: No, it hit me this morning when I was watching,
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  Speaker 1: I said, wait a minute, that's Farley. She's paying homage
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  Speaker 1: to Farley. I know. Oh so good.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like a big man, a little covering it all.
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  Speaker 1: Right, So they have so they now we're Do you
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  Speaker 1: think lorele I gets a kick out of seeing how
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  Speaker 1: Emily acts around trick?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, Loreley is loving this.
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  Speaker 2: But I feel like in this episode that Laura I
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  Speaker 2: does not understand Emily's flight and like it's not even
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  Speaker 2: Emily's mother, it's her husband, it's her in law, right,
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  Speaker 2: But like like really.
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  Speaker 3: They don't give this woman enough.
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  Speaker 2: There's just like loving it, but they're not given her enough,
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  Speaker 2: you know.
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  Speaker 3: Like understanding.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean, Like it's not even her
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  Speaker 2: mother though, if it was her mother being that way,
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  Speaker 2: then they would understand it more. But yeah, no, they're
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  Speaker 2: just like.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: But isn't interesting how Laura I sits her mother down
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  Speaker 1: on that lumpy couch and explains to her how she
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  Speaker 1: got over Emily. She's telling her mom, this is how
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  Speaker 1: I got over you. It's like I don't take you
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  Speaker 1: seriously anymore. I just I welcome the criticism. I welcome
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  Speaker 1: the insults because I just ignore them and I turn
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  Speaker 1: it into humor. I mean, her whole psychology, her whole
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  Speaker 1: survival of the trauma is just based on totally dismissing
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  Speaker 1: her mother. I mean she's telling her this in an
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  Speaker 1: intimate conversation in her house, on her lumpy couch, saying, Mom,
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  Speaker 1: to me, you are basically a joke.
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  Speaker 3: What a lot of human beings right now are going
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  Speaker 3: through with their parents during this exact right I'm not
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  Speaker 3: trying to.
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  Speaker 2: Be that political, but a lot of people are feeling
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  Speaker 2: that exact, this exact way about their parents and their
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  Speaker 2: family at this time when things are really really weird.
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  Speaker 1: I thought that was a very telling scene. I thought,
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  Speaker 1: Emily's what does Emily? How does Emily respond something like that? Mom,
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  Speaker 1: I think you're a joke. I think everything you says
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  Speaker 1: is funny. And that's how I can deal with you
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  Speaker 1: and survive any encounter I have with you. And I
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  Speaker 1: don't feel sorry for you, because this is your karma, babe.
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  Speaker 1: And now Trixie is you, and now you're laurle I,
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  Speaker 1: who hasn't learned how to deal with the insults yet
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  Speaker 1: because she ain't changing you gotta change. And here's here,
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  Speaker 1: I'm giving you the playbook on how to deal with
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: this odious woman, Trixie right, who can't hand you the
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  Speaker 1: same way that she's given her the playbook. I thought
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  Speaker 1: it was a great scene. It was. It was the
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  Speaker 1: most telling scene.
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  Speaker 2: It was the entire everybody loved it.
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  Speaker 3: It was the entire episode. But let me tell you
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: about missus C.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, missus who Marion who played missus C on right right.
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  Speaker 3: I ran into Mariam.
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  Speaker 2: At the ut at Donnie's concert because he does crooning.
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  Speaker 3: Now he's a crooner.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, he's still an actor, but he also does like
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  Speaker 2: concerts where he cruons. We have the same manager. And
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  Speaker 2: I went to a thing where he was, like at
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: a very fancy Beverly Hills restaurant in the hill.
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  Speaker 3: Like it was like a it was kind of like
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: a dinner theater type, you know whatever. He was incruding
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: his butt off and everybody.
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  Speaker 2: Was going and missus C Mary Ross was there, okay
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  Speaker 2: and uh, and it was so great to meet her.
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  Speaker 3: I met her in the bathroom and it was like
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: the most fabulous thing that ever happened to me. But
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: we're we're we're digressing, but she is.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: On this show and she's so I was very excited
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: when I was like, oh my god, I had not
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: even watched this episode before, right right, like we're gonna
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: So I did watch this episode twice, so I do
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: know what's going on that second.
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: It's good, very little you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there was one quick little scene, that's all. That's
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: all you were in it.
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: So I wasn't in it at all.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: So and I feel like they missed an opportunity because
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: when when Rory and jess were making out, like I
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: feel like I should be on the outside looking at that,
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: like they should have had Shane like like all.
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: Mad that they're making out. I don't know. I would
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  Speaker 3: just like to be paid extra day, that's all.
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  Speaker 1: Right, Right? Did you suggest any of this to the producers?
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god, No, I would never suggest anything at
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: that time for sure. So I'm not I'm Chane, I'm
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: not Luke Cheesels.
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  Speaker 1: All right. So now you know, I think we pretty
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: much uh nailed this episode. I'll tell you.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. I feel like there's we sliced.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: And diced it, we we mashed it pretty good, all right, Uh, Jessica,
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: we are celebrating twenty five years a Gilmore Girls this year.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: You were part of it for four episodes, including.
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: Or but you know It's gonna dance Marathon.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: But what about that? You've got a great scene inside
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: the jewelry store or the nick next door with Rory
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  Speaker 1: when you had that real confrontation. That was a great scene.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I was happy to be in a scene
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: with her, but I feel like, I don't know, like
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: they're there, it could have gone further, Like I really,
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: I really I would have fought her for years and
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: years if had been given the end.
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  Speaker 3: The opportunity. But like, I'm really happy that we got
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: to do that.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: And uh and and in real life, I'm not that
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: person at all. But watched me on other shows, well
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: mostly Survivor that the correspond with more girl bands. They
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: they know that I'm not mean, and most gomar girl
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: fands know well assume that I'm you know, they do like.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: You know what. That's my next question. What was a
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: fan reaction at the time?
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: This was air God at the time, that is was
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: zaring everybody. But that's okay.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: Really I was, oh my god, Well I'm the the
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: uh the you know.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: You get you're getting between what the fans want.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: Well, I literally was hired to be the person that
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: makes the girls jealous for the boy, and you know
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: everybody hates so it's fine. I can see the the
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: bad girl.
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: It's fine.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: Has a has a fan reaction changed? Now do they
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: come up to you now and they're they're they're nicer,
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: they're I mean, Gilmore fans are never really uncomfortable.
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: I don't do.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: I don't have the fans like you, Doude Scott, but
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: like I am so unrecognizable compared to you.
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: But the people that know me, that are fans of me,
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: that that.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: Can recognize me also know I was Sugar from Survivor
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: and so that they can recognize me easier, like Shane
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: from from Gilmour Girls is not as recognizable. It's kind
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: of weird. It's weird to be any of us, but
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: it's weird especially to be me.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: I feel Oh so when you when you watch these
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: episodes that you were in, do you ever do that?
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: And what's your reaction to seeing yourself?
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: I mean, I feel like I played my part really well.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: I was supposed to like annoying and the not anarchist.
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: Why am I saying that word. I'm not thinking of
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: the right word right now.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: This antagonist antagonist.
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: Yes, I'm the antagonist. I wasn't the main part.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: I was supposed to make you not like me, and
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: so I feel like I did really well in my
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: playing my part in that character.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: I'm playing myself.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: So it's like the economy is great and like people
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: seeing the difference is really great because there's a lot
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: of crossover fans, which is weird. I mean, it's not
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: that weird. Everybody rewatched everything during COVID.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Right, all right, Jessica, Thanks always fun and remember everybody
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: best flans on the planet. Keep the cards and letters coming,
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: and remember where you lead, we will follow. Stay safe everyone, everybody,
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: don't forget. Follow us on Instagram at I Am all
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