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  Speaker 1: Anyway, we're gonna go to Tim Murray right now on
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  Speaker 1: the guest and I followed Tim for a very long time.
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  Speaker 1: He does a great job covering all sports, especially college football.
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  Speaker 1: He's with VS in Weekend Morning Line Saturday's nine AM,
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  Speaker 1: VS in primetime each weeknight at seven, and host a
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  Speaker 1: Vson college football betting podcast. You can find him on
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  Speaker 1: Serious Next Sam one fifty eight. Tim, thanks so much
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  Speaker 1: for joining us. Man followed you for a while, so
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate you coming on and joining us today.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, Man, no fired up, you know, with
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  Speaker 2: the World Cup wrapping up for well, at least for
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  Speaker 2: our rooting interest, now, it's tining to turn our attention
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  Speaker 2: to a little college football here.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely. We were talking earlier today before you came on
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  Speaker 1: about college football in the betting landscape here in twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty six, would you say that the best surefire bet
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  Speaker 1: would be now you could throw maybe another one in
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  Speaker 1: there in Notre Dame, but that Miami would be the best,
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  Speaker 1: no doubt bet to make the playoff of all those teams.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you look at the odds, they aren't necessarily
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  Speaker 2: the best odds or shortest odds.
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  Speaker 3: That would be Notre Dame.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, look, Notre Dame is a massive favorite to
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  Speaker 2: make the playoff this year with everything that they dealt
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  Speaker 2: with a year ago. You know, you think about them
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  Speaker 2: on the final day getting left out in the schedule
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  Speaker 2: that they have and the talent that's returning. So look,
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  Speaker 2: not here names minus eight hundred to make the playoff.
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  Speaker 2: For those not too familiar with betting, you have to
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  Speaker 2: put down eight hundred dollars to win one hundred there.
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  Speaker 2: So they are the biggest favorite to make the playoff.
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  Speaker 2: They're not the favorite to win the national title, per se,
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  Speaker 2: but they're the biggest favorite to make the playoff. You know, Miami,
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  Speaker 2: to your point, they are a team that does have
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  Speaker 2: to go on the road to Notre Dame this year,
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  Speaker 2: so they are an underdog at least in one game
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  Speaker 2: this season. And you know, I think the way that
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  Speaker 2: last year played out should potentially quiet some of the
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  Speaker 2: noise of Mario Christobal is going to lose a game
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  Speaker 2: that he shouldn't, but I mean he still lost two
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  Speaker 2: games that they shouldn't. Right, they lost a Louisville game,
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  Speaker 2: they lose at SMU, they get into the playoff, and
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  Speaker 2: I think rightfully, so I you know, look, I'm a
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  Speaker 2: Notre Dame fan, but still I think, you know, head
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  Speaker 2: to head has to matter, and they beat Notre Dame.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, I think Miami getting into the playoff.
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  Speaker 2: I would be surprised if they didn't, based off of
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  Speaker 2: what their schedule looks like, based off of the talent
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  Speaker 2: on their roster. But if you're asking me, if I
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  Speaker 2: had to pick one team to put in Blood into
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  Speaker 2: the playoff, I would have to go Notre Dame this
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  Speaker 2: year just because of the schedule, and I think the
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  Speaker 2: talent on that roster is the best they've had, to
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  Speaker 2: be honest, since the whole era.
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  Speaker 1: That that game November seventh, as you were well aware
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  Speaker 1: of being a Notre Dame guy that's got one verse
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  Speaker 1: two written all over it, doesn't it revids me of
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  Speaker 1: that Florida State Notre Dame game and En ninety three
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  Speaker 1: ro that feels like we're that's headed here in November.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, look, I've got my tickets, I'm ready
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  Speaker 2: to go.
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  Speaker 3: I'll be there.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, is it has the chance, like you said,
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  Speaker 2: not only just from these two teams both being really
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  Speaker 2: really good, but then you add in the storylines of
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  Speaker 2: how last last year played out Miami beating Notre Dame
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  Speaker 2: getting into the playoff on the last day of the
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  Speaker 2: regular season. So the potential of that to be an
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  Speaker 2: undefeated versus undefeated matchup, like you mentioned, is certainly high.
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  Speaker 2: And I think for me, you think about big games
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  Speaker 2: in that stadium, Like you said, ninety three Notre Dame
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  Speaker 2: Florida State was one verse two.
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  Speaker 3: Two thousand and.
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  Speaker 2: Five, you've got usc with Reggie Bush and Liner and
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  Speaker 2: Lindel White and Pete Carroll walking into that game, the
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  Speaker 2: Bush Push game, and then you go all the way
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  Speaker 2: back to the infamous Catholics Convicts game in nineteen eighty eight.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean that game has the potential of
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  Speaker 2: being an absolutely incredible game. But I'll say this to
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  Speaker 2: the folks listening in right now, that Saturday, just clear
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  Speaker 2: your schedule right now, boys and girls, because that is
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  Speaker 2: going to be the best Saturday we have in a long,
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  Speaker 2: long time. When you look at you've got on that Saturday,
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  Speaker 2: You've got Oregon taking on Ohio State, You've got Miami
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  Speaker 2: and Notre Dame. You've got just a ton of these
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  Speaker 2: massive games. You've got Georgia going to Ole, miss the
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  Speaker 2: Holy War out West BYU and Utah. Look up and
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  Speaker 2: down the schedule. Alabama LSU is on that Saturday. That
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  Speaker 2: is going to be the banger of all bangers. So
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  Speaker 2: if you have a wedding on that day, just already
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  Speaker 2: figure out your cough, your decision of how you're going
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  Speaker 2: to get out of it, because that is going to
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  Speaker 2: be a massive day.
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  Speaker 3: Good news.
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  Speaker 1: I've already cleared my schedule for every Saturday from basically
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  Speaker 1: here on out until probably the end of March Madness,
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  Speaker 1: So I think we're good tim on my Saturdays right now.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Game Cocks and Clemson.
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  Speaker 1: We haven't asked this question a lot in the last
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  Speaker 1: decade because of how dominant Clemson was.
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  Speaker 3: Who do you like more this season?
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  Speaker 1: The game Cops or the Clemson Tigers who are trying
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  Speaker 1: to find what they.
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  Speaker 3: Used to have?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think I would have to lean
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  Speaker 2: probably towards South Carolina a little bit here. You know,
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  Speaker 2: there's I feel like there's a lot of unknown and
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  Speaker 2: maybe there's more known in your neck of the woods
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  Speaker 2: than I'm aware of regarding this Clemson team. Obviously, the
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  Speaker 2: quarterback situation is very curious, you know, if you're thinking
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  Speaker 2: from a betting standpoint, they do have Game of the
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  Speaker 2: Year lines out right now, and Clemson is a favorite
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  Speaker 2: at minus three against South Carolina, but clemsons at home.
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  Speaker 2: So you're essentially being told that these two teams are
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  Speaker 2: you know, dead even heading into the year. And you know,
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  Speaker 2: I think with South Carolina coming off of the year
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  Speaker 2: that they had last year, I think there's the potential
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  Speaker 2: of them being maybe a little bit of a bi
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  Speaker 2: low candidate. You know, a preseason what top fifteen team
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  Speaker 2: a year ago, and now you're looking at a team
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  Speaker 2: that I think maybe is going a little bit under
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  Speaker 2: the radar heading into this year. And you know, I
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  Speaker 2: think I truly believe that this is the year of
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  Speaker 2: the quarterback. We've talked about it a ton of decent
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  Speaker 2: and I think with Leonora Sellers coming back with all
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  Speaker 2: the height that he had a year ago, you know,
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  Speaker 2: maybe this is a good opportunity to come in at
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  Speaker 2: a little bit of a bi lo opportunity. Last year,
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  Speaker 2: the season finishing the way that it did, you know,
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  Speaker 2: losing their last six games against you know, power to competition.
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  Speaker 2: I know they be Coastal Carolina late in the season,
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  Speaker 2: but I think I would have to lean a bit
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  Speaker 2: a bit towards the game Cocks here, and you know,
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  Speaker 2: the schedule sets up relatively nice for the start of
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  Speaker 2: the season, kind of easing your way in with you know,
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  Speaker 2: Kent State, Towson and Mississippi State. They should be three
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  Speaker 2: to zero going into a game on the road in Alabama,
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  Speaker 2: which obviously will be a massive challenge. But if you're
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  Speaker 2: asking me right now, who would I take a little
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  Speaker 2: bit more stock in? I think I would have to
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  Speaker 2: take a little more stock in South Carolina than Clemson
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  Speaker 2: heading into twenty twenty six.
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  Speaker 1: That's the voice of Tim Murray, a Vson Weekend Morning
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  Speaker 1: Last year, Tim, as you can imagine, both here and nationally,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of the chatter was about the hype of
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  Speaker 1: Bill Belichick and the tar Heels. What was he going
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  Speaker 1: to do to transform that program into a power? It
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  Speaker 1: did not happen, and now we're hardly talking tar Heels
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  Speaker 1: even here leading up to the season. They're over under.
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  Speaker 1: Last time I saw it was I think at four
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  Speaker 1: and a half on most sides.
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  Speaker 3: What are you expecting from year two?
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  Speaker 1: Under Belichick and would you go over that or that
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  Speaker 1: just a complete stay away situation.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think.
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  Speaker 2: I mean for me, I look at quarterbacks and if
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  Speaker 2: you're hitching your wagon to Billy Edwards, I just I
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  Speaker 2: find it hard for me to say I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: go over four and a half wins right now, and
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  Speaker 2: that's the number heading into this year. I mean, look
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  Speaker 2: like you said, like we just discussed with a team
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  Speaker 2: like South Carolina. This is as low as you could
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  Speaker 2: possibly get on this North Carolina team. You know, we
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  Speaker 2: will get an opportunity to see what they're about right
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  Speaker 2: out of the gates. I assume there'll be a little
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  Speaker 2: bit more buttoned up than than what we saw a
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  Speaker 2: year ago, you know. But to open up the season
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  Speaker 2: to have TCU in Dublin, then you get a bye week,
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  Speaker 2: then you get an FCS opponent, then you're on the
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  Speaker 2: road at Clemson, then you get Notre Dame, then you're
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  Speaker 2: on the road at hit. It is a really tricky
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  Speaker 2: schedule here for the tar Heels. And you know, I
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  Speaker 2: was looking at schedules the other day just kind of
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  Speaker 2: thinking about, right, who won the schedule lottery who didn't
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  Speaker 2: This year? Heading into college football, I mean for North Carolina.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, outside of that FCS game against East Tennessee State,
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  Speaker 2: they're going to be an underdog in their first what
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  Speaker 2: five games TCU, there are six and a half point
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  Speaker 2: underdog right now. They're going to be an underdog at
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  Speaker 2: Clemson Notre Dame. I think they are a twenty four
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  Speaker 2: point underdog at home. You're at Pitt underdog there at Duke.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I don't know necessarily what to expect from
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  Speaker 2: Duke this year. You know, the quarterback situation is less
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  Speaker 2: than ideal with Mensa moving on to Michigan to Miami
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  Speaker 2: and them going out and getting the San Jose State transfer.
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  Speaker 2: But man, you look up and down, like, when's the
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  Speaker 2: first time they're a clear favorite? Is it home against
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  Speaker 2: Syracuse potentially? Is it a road game against Yukon on
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  Speaker 2: November seventh? So look, it's maybe it's a Bilos opportunity there.
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  Speaker 2: But the schedule really is pretty brutal for UNC heading
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  Speaker 2: into this year, where there's not a clear cut opportunity
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  Speaker 2: for them outside of that Week two game against East
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  Speaker 2: Tennessee State where you're saying there's a win, I think
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  Speaker 2: the scheduling is a pretty big challenge for them when
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  Speaker 2: you think about from an odd standpoint, you have to
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  Speaker 2: play Miami, you have to play Louisville, you have to
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  Speaker 2: go on the road to Virginia, you have to play
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  Speaker 2: a pit team on the road. I mean, outside of
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  Speaker 2: missing SMU, they're playing really all the best teams in
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  Speaker 2: the ACC this year. They don't get Boston College isn't
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  Speaker 2: on the schedule this year, so it's going to be
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  Speaker 2: a pretty big challenge this year. And if they were
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  Speaker 2: able to find a way to get to a bowl game,
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  Speaker 2: I think that would be a major victory for UNC.
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  Speaker 2: With where they're at from a talent standpoint and where
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  Speaker 2: they're at from a scheduling standpoint heading into this year.
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  Speaker 3: It's amazing, Tim, how much can change in a year.
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  Speaker 1: You think about the hype of the Heels last year
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  Speaker 1: and the schedule last year looked like it was going
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  Speaker 1: to play out in their favor, and now there's no
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  Speaker 1: hype and as you just nicely broke down the schedule
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  Speaker 1: there is put pretty brutal. It's also a different year
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  Speaker 1: now for another fan base that's fired up. They're texting
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  Speaker 1: in saying, asked him about my Virginia Tech Hokies. That's
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  Speaker 1: what the fans are saying there. What do you think
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  Speaker 1: about Virginia Tech this year, year one, James Franklin and
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  Speaker 1: really their chances in the AC Seed to position themselves
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  Speaker 1: maybe second behind Miami and that group of teams.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think, look, let's start with the
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  Speaker 2: higher end. James Franklin. I thought it was a brilliant
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  Speaker 2: higher I mean, the situation for Virginia Tech to be
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  Speaker 2: able to get someone like James Franklin, the way that
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  Speaker 2: it played out last year with Penn State firing him
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  Speaker 2: during the season just was perfect for the Hokies. And
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  Speaker 2: you know, I've fully taken my jabs at James Franklin,
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  Speaker 2: called him Big Game James for years for his inability
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  Speaker 2: to win a big one at Penn State. But you know,
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  Speaker 2: let's be honest right now. Virginia Tech. I grew up
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  Speaker 2: in the DC area. That is a program that you know,
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  Speaker 2: for a long long time was sitting there at nine
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  Speaker 2: to ten wins every single year. And I think James Franklin,
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  Speaker 2: he is a program builder. He can get you to
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  Speaker 2: that stable level like he did at Vanderbilt, like he
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  Speaker 2: did throughout his time at Penn State. If you tell
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  Speaker 2: Virginia Tech fans, hey, we're getting you nine wins every
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  Speaker 2: single year, but you might not be able to be
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  Speaker 2: top ten teams. I think they'd say, okay, that works
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  Speaker 2: for us right now. So you know, when you look
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  Speaker 2: at Virginia Tech in the schedule heading into this year,
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  Speaker 2: should be two and oh heading into a night game
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  Speaker 2: on the road at Maryland. You know from Maryland this
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  Speaker 2: year it's kind of a make or break season for
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  Speaker 2: Mike Loxley, like their quarterback Malik Washington quite a bit.
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  Speaker 2: But you can close your eyes and certainly see Virginia
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  Speaker 2: Tech being four and oh going into a Friday night
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  Speaker 2: game at Lane Stadium against pitt And you know, unlike
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  Speaker 2: North Carolina, as we mentioned, yeah, you've got some challenging
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  Speaker 2: games on the road. You gotta go to Clemson, you've
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  Speaker 2: got to go to SMU, you got to go to Miami.
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  Speaker 2: So you do play from the odds standpoint three of
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  Speaker 2: the four best teams all on the road. But if
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  Speaker 2: you're talking about a Virginia Tech team getting to seven
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  Speaker 2: wins eight wins this year, playing some meaningful football, I
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  Speaker 2: think the way the schedule sets up it kind of
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  Speaker 2: is a slow build into the most challenging part of
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  Speaker 2: their schedule. Now, I'm not going to overlook a game
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  Speaker 2: going out west to take on Cal that'll probably be
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  Speaker 2: a you know, a late night game. And JK s
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  Speaker 2: Jaron Kiave Sangapula Telli, their quarterback, is I think a
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  Speaker 2: really talented dude. You know, they're bringing in a new
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  Speaker 2: head coach there for Cal, so I think the middle
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  Speaker 2: of the season going out the Berkeley is going to
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  Speaker 2: be a unique challenge. But you know, if you're looking
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  Speaker 2: at a game on October twenty fourth against a Clemson
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  Speaker 2: team that we already discussed that we might not be
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  Speaker 2: that high on, you're looking at the possibility of one loss,
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  Speaker 2: maybe even the possibility of this team being undefeated. So look,
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  Speaker 2: I think James Franklin's going to do a great job.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously brought a bunch of talent from Penn State down there.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's going to be a dog from a
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  Speaker 2: recruiting standpoint in the Tidewater area going in the DC
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  Speaker 2: and getting a ton of talent, which we know that
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  Speaker 2: is a talent rich area to come down to Blacksburg.
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  Speaker 2: So I think you see success in year one, and
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  Speaker 2: I certainly think long term for Virginia Tech and where
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  Speaker 2: this fan base wants them to be. I think you're
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  Speaker 2: going to see Virginia Tech as a regular amongst the
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  Speaker 2: top teams in the ACC for a good stretch.
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  Speaker 3: Here, Tim, Thanks so much man.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to follow you on Twitter at one Tim
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  Speaker 1: Murray of course, all you're doing for Vson in the
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  Speaker 1: College Football Betting podcast as well. Great stuff. Audience, loved you.
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  Speaker 1: We appreciate your time man, anytime. Man, I appreciate you.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Thanks Tim. That's Tim Murray of Vson right there.
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  Speaker 1: Good stuff from Tim Nare