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Men are not more logical, they simply lack empathy | Maintaining Frame 118 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, welcome to Honey Badger Radio. My name is Brian.
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  Speaker 1: I'm here with Alison and this is another episode of
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  Speaker 1: maintaining frame. Uh this is maintaining frame number one hundred
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  Speaker 1: and eighteen. Men are not more logical. They simply lack empathy.
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  Speaker 1: And if you are looking at this space on the
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  Speaker 1: screen here, you know who it is we're responding to.
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  Speaker 1: So hold onto your butts. It's gonna be a wild ride.
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  Speaker 2: Uh So right after.
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  Speaker 3: That, this is false.
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  Speaker 2: This claim is false that women are men have less
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  Speaker 2: empathy than women. The latest the latest study study, one
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  Speaker 2: of the most comprehensive done today, and the answer is no.
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  Speaker 3: And well, and we'll cover that later.
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  Speaker 2: We'll show you the study after we.
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  Speaker 4: View the thought, philosophical witterings of this marvelous individual.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, let's let's let's get into it. Let's get all.
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  Speaker 5: Right, let's play some of the video. Here we go.
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  Speaker 5: This is the first time code the intro.
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  Speaker 6: Basically on today's episode, we are talking about how it's
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  Speaker 6: not women's intuition, it's intelligence. Like, let me say that again.
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  Speaker 6: It's not women's intuition, it's intelligence. And how making that
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  Speaker 6: mental re agorization of calling women's intuition actual intelligence will
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  Speaker 6: help you and the women around you gain the audacity
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  Speaker 6: to share your thoughts and advocate for yourself and other women.
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  Speaker 2: We have a lot to cover.
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  Speaker 5: But before I get into it, and you say, well,
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  Speaker 5: that's basically the GISTs. So she's basically claiming that.
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  Speaker 1: Women are not they don't use intuition, they're just smarter.
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  Speaker 1: So they're just logical creatures, as we all know, completely logical.
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  Speaker 2: All right, well, okay, I think there's a deeper conversation
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  Speaker 2: to be had about logic and types of intelligence. I
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  Speaker 2: doubt that we're going to be having it with this
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  Speaker 2: individual right of unique.
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  Speaker 5: No, I think this is just the claim. This is
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  Speaker 5: just the claim.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well yeah, this is the claim, just the claim
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  Speaker 2: that basically women are apparently women are more logical or
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  Speaker 2: not more logical or equally logical, but also more empathy.
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  Speaker 1: More empathetic, more intelligent, more resourceful, more logical, and have
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  Speaker 1: a better intuition.
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  Speaker 5: Is what what? Basically, they're just better people. I don't
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  Speaker 5: know if you guys know this, but women are just
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  Speaker 5: better people.
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  Speaker 2: And you and and of course the reason why women
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  Speaker 2: have more empathy is because don't have it, don't really
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  Speaker 2: don't really aren't really human. You know that they don't.
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  Speaker 2: There's nothing that women need to feel empathy for. That's
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  Speaker 2: why they have more empathy because they don't expend it
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  Speaker 2: on anyone. It's like, you know, a frugal person has
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  Speaker 2: more money. Women have more empathy because they never use
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  Speaker 2: it for anyone but themselves.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, that that's what.
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  Speaker 2: No, I'm just I'm astounished my own misogyny.
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  Speaker 5: Let me jump to the next ahead.
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  Speaker 2: But honestly, like if they're it was a point in
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  Speaker 2: time that I would ever have not gone this path
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  Speaker 2: to being this hardened, cynical, bitter.
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  Speaker 3: Angry bitch.
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  Speaker 2: It would have been at the beginning when I first
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  Speaker 2: realized the depth of the problem when it came to
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  Speaker 2: sexual and domestic violence for men, and I thought, oh, oh,
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  Speaker 2: oh wow, this is really important. I'm sure that if
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  Speaker 2: I bring this to a tension of feminists they don't
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  Speaker 2: realize it's just an oversight and correct it.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure everything.
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  Speaker 2: Is all above board and everyone's an honest actor. And
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  Speaker 2: the domestic violence and sexual assault services sector surely they
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  Speaker 2: understand that it's important to bring attention to male victims
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  Speaker 2: of these very, very terrible crimes. Can you imagine what
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  Speaker 2: I was like then? Twenty years later?
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  Speaker 3: Twenty years later? Fuck them all?
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  Speaker 5: All right, let's play some more of the video. Oh,
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  Speaker 5: here we go free.
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  Speaker 6: No, Like, philosophy is being able to think for yourself
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  Speaker 6: about your reality, your existence, the meaning of your life.
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  Speaker 6: So this issue of philosophy being gate kept from women
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  Speaker 6: actually runs much deeper than you think, whether you believe
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  Speaker 6: it or not, the historical treatment of women.
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  Speaker 1: So philosophy was gate kept from women, like women, women
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  Speaker 1: were gate kept out of thinking.
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  Speaker 2: Men gate kept women's thoughts. Yeah, and this isn't pathological, Like,
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  Speaker 2: how many how many subscribers?
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  Speaker 3: How many viewers does this get?
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  Speaker 2: And nobody calls out and says, what are you even
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  Speaker 2: talking about?
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  Speaker 1: Fifty thousand views and all the women are like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: my god, I do feel gate kept out of my
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  Speaker 1: own brain, or they bring up maybe I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if I'm being like, let's try to steal man this okay,
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  Speaker 1: let's try to steal.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe it's just just bad choice of words.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe in her mind, you had like the Acropolis and
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  Speaker 1: there was Socrates and Plato and Aristotle and all these
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  Speaker 1: other men, and they're all standing around wearing togas and
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  Speaker 1: they're like talking about existence and consciousness.
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  Speaker 5: Or whatever it is they were talking about.
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  Speaker 1: And a woman showed up and was like, I think
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  Speaker 1: I have something to contribute, and they were like, get
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  Speaker 1: back to the kitchen.
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  Speaker 5: Women.
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  Speaker 1: They whatever it is that the ancient Greek philosophers had.
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  Speaker 5: Their women do.
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  Speaker 1: They were like, would you please wash our togas and
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  Speaker 1: you know, adjust the threads on our sandals and.
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  Speaker 5: Get out, be gone. You have nothing to add. And
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  Speaker 5: that was her.
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  Speaker 1: She like went and she was like, oh, omg, I've
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  Speaker 1: been gate kept from philosophy. And then she carved into
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  Speaker 1: a tablet, you know, like all of her complaints and
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  Speaker 1: then shared it like flyers, like big heavy tablets. She
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  Speaker 1: had guys help her do it, obviously, because she can't
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  Speaker 1: carry the stuff herself and they're handing it out and
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  Speaker 1: men are like, oh my god, I can't believe women
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  Speaker 1: are not all to use their brains.
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  Speaker 5: So that's my steel man? Is that is that fair?
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  Speaker 5: I do?
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  Speaker 2: Honestly, I'm starting to wonder if for a good segment
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  Speaker 2: of the female population, they can't do something unless they're
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  Speaker 2: defying the man, Like they can't think unless they're smashing
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  Speaker 2: the patriarchies, gatekeeping their own thoughts.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, am I am?
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  Speaker 3: I wrong? It's not start feeling like that.
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  Speaker 2: It's like you can't do anything unless you're poking.
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  Speaker 3: A guy in the eye or think you are.
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  Speaker 5: All right, let's play some more of this.
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  Speaker 6: Men venture into philosophy, into higher learning does affect us
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  Speaker 6: regular regular women in the every day from how we
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  Speaker 6: verbalize our desires, needs and opinions to how intelligent we
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  Speaker 6: think we are or other women are questions like our women.
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  Speaker 2: Nobody is they stopping you from being No one has
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  Speaker 2: stopped you from going into philosophy.
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  Speaker 3: I took in m philosophy.
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  Speaker 5: They let you, Yes, they totally let me.
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  Speaker 2: They totally let me walk my female ass up to
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  Speaker 2: the philosophy department and look at all the books and
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  Speaker 2: read them and nobody told me to make them a sandwich.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I didn't just take philosophy.
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  Speaker 2: I took philosophy, logic, I took well a bunch of
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  Speaker 2: mathematical courses and it was free. Maybe they just thought
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  Speaker 2: I was a man, like most feminists, you know, they just.
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  Speaker 3: They didn't even realize.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I was just.
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  Speaker 3: They didn't realize I was a woman. If they had,
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  Speaker 3: they would have kicked me out.
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  Speaker 2: This is ridiculous. You can pick a book at any point,
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  Speaker 2: manifest though. You can pick up a book on philosophy,
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  Speaker 2: read that book and have thoughts about it. You don't
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  Speaker 2: need to construct a huge edifice of prosecution, persecution in
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  Speaker 2: order to do it.
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  Speaker 3: This is ridiculous.
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  Speaker 5: It is indeed, all right, let's play some more.
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  Speaker 6: Or are we worthy of having a public voice? Should
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  Speaker 6: we even have the right to vote? Or make choices
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  Speaker 6: that impact our lives, our families, our society. All of
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  Speaker 6: these are a reflection of how important society deems women's
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  Speaker 6: thoughts and opinions are.
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  Speaker 1: It looks okay, so let me do a quick refresh
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  Speaker 1: of this and see if that works.
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  Speaker 5: So sorry about this, guys. All right, yeah that's way better.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, all right, then we'll have to do it
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  Speaker 3: this way. It might it's just too much interference or something.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems it seems better. Now, all right, let's
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  Speaker 1: why am I? Okay, well let's play.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, oh uh oh wait, this is not this is
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  Speaker 2: this is an the stuff that I had for my
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  Speaker 2: philosophy undergraduate, like all the stuff that I had to
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  Speaker 2: read this yeah, in general reference book. No, they didn't
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  Speaker 2: stop me from getting this stuff. So I don't know
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: what the heck she's on about. It's just if you
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: have an interest, it's available to you, and nobody's stopping you. Like, really,
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: this is ridiculous. Nobody has stopped Manifestel from having an
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: interest in philosophy. Although I am really curious what has
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: resulted from this apparent interest in philosophy, what her pearls
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: of wisdom are? H?
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  Speaker 1: Well, she's it's her starting point to talk about empathy.
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  Speaker 5: Right, So I got a super chat from Zarah Anks.
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  Speaker 1: He says, someone tell Christina hoff Summers she was gay
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  Speaker 1: kept out of philosophy considering she's to teach it in
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: a college slash university setting.
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  Speaker 5: For five dollars thank you. Yeah, I'm pretty sure jans Fia.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: Mango got to take it too or not even like
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't even about that. Maybe she just got to
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  Speaker 1: use her brain to think it into existence.
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  Speaker 5: I mean.
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  Speaker 2: That's the other thing, Like, you know, you can also
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: create your own philosophy is manifestol think you could.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: Manifest them in fact? All right, let's play some more
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: of the video than.
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: Here we go.
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  Speaker 6: Can Aluna writes, they don't acknowledge that the skepticism of
• 23:25
  Speaker 6: women's intellectual capacity, expressed casually and with an objective air,
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  Speaker 6: impacts the self perception and lives of actual women where
• 23:33
  Speaker 6: they men.
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  Speaker 3: Over it this.
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  Speaker 2: If this was so, if this kind of thing was
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: so true, you wouldn't dare constantly say to men that
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: there are all a bunch of criminal rapist murderers, and
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: they've constructed an entire society using those criminal activities in
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: order to maintain it, because then that would be what
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: they what they become.
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  Speaker 3: All right, you don't believe this shit.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: If you did, you wouldn't be saying things about men, Like,
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: think about all of the shade they throw on men,
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: and they don't expect men to actually become the things
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: that they say. And the other thing is that what
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: is this is something that I've had a problem with
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: with most women. Some woman basically got upset at a
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: guy because he said, if you if you just want
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: to go by what men want from women, then yes,
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: we just want cheerleaders that make sandwiches. And she was like,
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: well that's not all I'm supposed to be. Then I'm like, bitch,
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: be something for yourself. If you don't like that, yeah,
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: Like you're perfectly capable of being something other than what
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: people say you are. And this is like, is this
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: is this womanhood? Is that you men snigger about something
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: and then suddenly you're incapable of doing it like that
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: That seems to be the starting point for me. It's like, oh,
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: you think I can't do that, well, if it's of
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: interest to me, I'll try. You know, like you don't,
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: you won't live and die by people's opinion of you.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: And then the irony is is that you would regard
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: men as absolutely weak and useless and dusty if they
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: expressed this opinion that they live and die by others
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: opinions of them.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: Like think about her. Think about what Manifestell's attitude would
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: be towards a man who said.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, I'm only ever what women think of me.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: She probably have other utter contempt for him as a
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: weak man, and yet she's presenting this as a reasonable
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: way to view the world.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: As a woman.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: I reject your philosophy, Manifestel, and I substitute my own.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: People's opinions only matter insofar as I allow them to.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: It doesn't matter if men say, oh, women are so illogical,
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: they're emotional. It doesn't matter because women can be that way.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: That doesn't mean I am as an individual. That's the difference.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: Be an individual. Individuate. Stop regarding your attributes as being
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: like a manifest each of the hive mind. Oh well,
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: I get the brand cell this Wednesday, ladies, I get
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  Speaker 2: the brand cell.
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  Speaker 1: what else it could be.
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  Speaker 5: Like, I'm just saying, I don't know.
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  Speaker 8: I'm suggesting that if you can get an Ethernet cable
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  Speaker 8: and just connect that way when you're the show, just
• 26:44
  Speaker 8: to make sure you're getting the most out of your Internet,
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  Speaker 1: Well, there's two more in here, and then I'm jumping
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  Speaker 5: Calls it the mental load of women.
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  Speaker 1: And then there's privilege and philosophy, the beauty myth and
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  Speaker 5: I don't know what that has to do with.
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  Speaker 1: Anything, but I'm sure she'll make it make sense at
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  Speaker 1: least somewhat. Yeah, Allison dropped out completely. She'll be back. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: she's got like red bars, so I don't think it's me.
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  Speaker 1: I'm looking at my computer's memory. I actually did a
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  Speaker 1: lot of work over the weekend trying to like optimize
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  Speaker 1: like James Brown, and I think now it's like able
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  Speaker 1: of amazing because OBS is usually the thing that it's
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  Speaker 1: a second. Let me see how it looks. It's not
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  Speaker 1: really how it looks in the preview window that matters.
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  Speaker 1: It's how it looks in OBS. When I connect the browser.
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  Speaker 1: All right, let me raise your volume a little bit again. Okay,
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  Speaker 5: Right, that's a bit. That's a bit better. It's still
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  Speaker 5: I don't know you're it is what it is. We
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  Speaker 1: So there's two more time coses, twenty seconds left in
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  Speaker 6: Philosophy, And we've talked about this countless times in this
• 29:51
  Speaker 6: Spoiled early support group, Like we don't need to teach
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  Speaker 6: women how to be confident, because women are born confident,
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  Speaker 6: Like we have so much to be confident about. But
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  Speaker 6: what we do need to teach women is how to
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  Speaker 6: handle the consequences of their confidence.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: That's like writing flaws for like a character and a
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  Speaker 1: young Adelian novel.
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: What are her flaws?
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: Well, she's too confident sometimes.
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  Speaker 2: Didn't you just get go get through telling us that
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  Speaker 2: if men say something then you're unable to go against them.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: That certainly sounds like confidence to me. Yeah, that that
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: these insinuations.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: Well, she says that they're born confident, it's natural, so
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  Speaker 1: they just have to learn how to deal with the
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  Speaker 1: consequences of their ability.
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  Speaker 2: You know that. Yeah, women tend to have this sort
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: of interesting way of thinking about their the effects of
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: their actions. So she's regarding confidence as an ability and
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  Speaker 2: something inherent, right, No, No, it's due to effort. And
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: the reason why I point that out is is when
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  Speaker 2: people attribute their successes to ability, or so that their
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  Speaker 2: successes to effort and their failures to ability, it is
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  Speaker 2: actually paralyzing. So men generally attribute their failures to effort
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  Speaker 2: and their successes to ability, and that's actually probably the
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  Speaker 2: way to go because if you think about it, when
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  Speaker 2: you fail and you attribute effort, what you do, you
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: put forth more effort. If you attribute it to ability,
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: like women do, then you are paralyzed. But if you
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: attribute successes to ability, then you're basically attributing it to
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  Speaker 2: something outside of your hands, and your ultimate achievement is
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: going to be more about how you deal with failure
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: than success. And this is something that I think that
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  Speaker 2: sort of escapes a lot of women, especially the women
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  Speaker 2: in her audience. So don't attribute confidence to ability. Attribute
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  Speaker 2: it to effort, you'll get a lot further.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, that's fair. Okay, so let's play the
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  Speaker 1: next clip.
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  Speaker 6: And I've gotten some pushback on that too, like.
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  Speaker 9: Oh, what about X, Y, and Z circumstance where this
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  Speaker 9: advice does it apply?
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  Speaker 6: Like okay, then it's not about that, then, okay, like
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  Speaker 6: what about this? What about that? Then it's not about that? Okay,
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  Speaker 6: Like I swear, like the no nos Nellis are the
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  Speaker 6: beane of our existence because.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: You're right, yeah, like, if you point out that this
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: idea doesn't apply in every instance, then that still makes
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: you wrong because suddenly we're not talking about that, we're
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: talking only about her experience. Is this just the way
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: that women like this argue where it's like, I feel
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: this way about this thing, and you're like, yeah, but
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: that's that doesn't mean this thing is a problem.
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: I think it is.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: Because I feel this way about it, But here's all
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: the data that shows that it's not. Well, that's just
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: that's just you. That's just that instance. That doesn't mean
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  Speaker 1: anything to me. You know, you're a You're a nuance
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  Speaker 1: Nelly or whatever it is that she just said. So
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  Speaker 1: all right, we go to the next thing. Here unless
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: you want to say anything else about this, and you
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: want to make we should leave some time for these
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: other things that you sent me, like the study. But okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so we're going to jump ahead to the mental load
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  Speaker 1: of women because of course this is a problem because women.
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: Have like a mental loaded. Men are labor and men
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  Speaker 5: are risk. As she says, right, so let's go here.
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  Speaker 6: Philosophy hasn't done us any favors as women. It's not
• 33:43
  Speaker 6: solely on us to demand society spaces to be more inclusive.
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  Speaker 6: But if we ourselves stay stuck in this harmful thinking
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  Speaker 6: that we don't deserve to be here or that we
• 33:51
  Speaker 6: don't deserve to be heard, these spaces will never feel welcoming.
• 33:55
  Speaker 6: Now let's get into another issue, and this issue is
• 33:57
  Speaker 6: how women's occupation is to be occupied by her husband
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  Speaker 6: and children.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: Oh boy, here we go, just shitting on married people again,
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: very exciting stuff.
• 34:11
  Speaker 6: Canaluna asserts that a barrier to women's engagement in philosophy
• 34:14
  Speaker 6: is a rather obvious byproduct of patriarchy, which is that
• 34:18
  Speaker 6: women have been kept from engaging in creative passions or
• 34:22
  Speaker 6: philosophy by default because we carry the burden of housework
• 34:26
  Speaker 6: and childcare. In other words, a woman's occupation is to
• 34:29
  Speaker 6: be occupied by her husband and children as pens.
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: So patriarchy kept women from where are you trying to talk?
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: I don't know where. What's she going with?
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: This?
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: Patriarchy keeps women from pursuing a fulfilling life of philosophy,
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: philosophical pursuits because she's too busy occupied with the husband
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  Speaker 1: and children.
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  Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I doubt the husband is really
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: that much of an occupation, especially in previous eras he
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: probably was very much occupied with running the parts of
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: the farm that required the amount of physical strength that required,
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: or the parts of the business that required you know,
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: that particular expertise or strength.
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: Like, I'm not sure what she's like.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: Also, most people didn't engage in philosophy, like yeah.
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: Most people were just busy doing crap.
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Or they're just busy surviving. I mean, I don't know.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: They make vague statements about all of history. Be more specific,
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: what part of history are you talking about? Are you
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: talking about the nineteen fifties when mechanized servants essentially turned
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: a household running a household into a part time job
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: in which you could definitely fit in all kinds of
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: philosophical endeavors. If you wish, like seriously, it went from
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: a six day a week twelve hour a day job,
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: then you apply all of the mechanization, the laundry machine,
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: the dishwasher, the indoor plumbing, the es, central heating, the
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: electricity for lighting. All of the things that women used
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: to have to provide for the home suddenly are being
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: provided by utilities and machines. And you take that job
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: twelve hours a day, six days a week, and it's
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: now three hours a day, five days a week. Plenty
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: of time, especially when you're considering that, you know, you
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: have public schools, which at the time weren't that bad.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: You know, you could tend your kid women at the
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: age of six, to a public school five if you
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: went into wanted them to go to kindergarten.
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: You and if you want to pursue that, you have time.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: You now have time to do all kinds of philosophy.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: Did in response to women's bonus time women's leisure time?
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: Did television create the Philosophy Channel. No, It created the
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: Lifetime Channel. It created soap operas, it created radio dramas,
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: It created huge amounts of light reading, all kinds of entertainment.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: Why do you think that women's entertainment dominates daytime TV?
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: Because women had leisure time at that time to be entertained. Okay,
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: that's where all that came from. So the question is like,
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: what was wrong with that? And in exchange, you are
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: preoccupied by a man who most likely took care of
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: himself for the most part. Occasionally, I guess you had
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: to be affectionate towards him because presumably he's your life
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: partner and you're supposed to actually like that person to
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: some degree. But mostly it would have been maybe your kids.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: But you know, that was still a time where kids
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: were expected to do chores and be somewhat self reliant,
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: and they're not quite as hothouse mothered as.
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: They are there.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean, but I'm talking about the fifties,
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: so they might not be part of the workforce. So
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: now they're starting to be more at home with their mom,
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: which was very different. But you know, like it's you
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: have plenty of time, but you didn't have the philosophy channel, right,
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: you didn't. You had soap operas. That's what you occupied
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: your extra time with. So I mean, are you gonna
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: be like, Oh, wow, that's a that's just because of men.
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah, of course, okay, why not blame men?
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: Why not that we haven't tried that a billion times?
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, shall we move on? It's been much better.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: I don't know what you did, but seems to be working.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna play the.
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: Video we go.
• 38:58
  Speaker 6: Peneluna puts it philosophy. He was an expensive activity to
• 39:01
  Speaker 6: have the leisure to get lost in abstractions and ponder
• 39:04
  Speaker 6: the nature of the universe. A philosopher could not spend
• 39:06
  Speaker 6: his days worrying about dinner, laundry or the incessant demands
• 39:09
  Speaker 6: of a young child. Where did his freedom come from?
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: Oh my god, are you freaking kidding me?
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: That's exactly.
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: Lady men in the nineteen fifties.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, madam, I can't. I can't mow the lawn.
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  Speaker 1: I have to think about existence. I'm going to go
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: into my cave now, see you in forty days sufficiently fast.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: The cynic I think it was Dio Jenny's Yeah, I.
• 39:41
  Speaker 5: Know, I know.
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: I don't want to barrel a bunch of dogs like what.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: These philosophers weren't living the life. A lot of them
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: were iterant bombs like, if that's okay, if you're okay
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: with that lady living in a barrel with a bunch
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: of dogs, then go ahead, Like what are you even
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: talking about? But again, women had incredible leisure time a
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: couple generations ago in the fifties. You could have done
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: anything with it, ladies, anything, anything, And what did you do?
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: What did women create out of the fifties feminism?
• 40:24
  Speaker 5: Like this is it.
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: This is what you did with your leisure time, this
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: is what you chose to do with it. And then
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: basically you said, well, this is.
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: Oppression of women. Never do it again, guys.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, men gave women in the nineteen fifties
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: the most amount of leisure time of any large group
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: of people in all of human history, and women have
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: never forgiven them for it, never and possibly never will.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: Yep, all right, I want to read this, so let
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: me play the rest of it and then i'll read it.
• 41:01
  Speaker 6: Oh one way of luck, said one ancient philosopher, And
• 41:04
  Speaker 6: not to have been born a woman, said another.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: All right, just so you guys can hear how ridiculous
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: this is. Somebody wrote this. Therefore, I guess it's a
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: good It's called It's by Reagan, Penaluna Reagan, probably Reagan.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: I think that's a woman, how to think like a woman.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, you can do a whole stand up
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: routine on this book, I bet. But anyway, philosophy was
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: an expensive activity. Was it to have the leisure to
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: get lost in abstractions and ponder the nature of the universe.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: A philosopher could not spend his days worrying about dinner,
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: laundry or the incessant demands of a young child. Where
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: did his freedom come from? You need good luck, said
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: one ancient philosopher. And not to have been born a woman,
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: said another. Or a slave, which means women are basically
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: slaves or really lucky men.
• 42:04
  Speaker 5: I don't know. All right, Well, you want me to
• 42:07
  Speaker 5: play some more? Do you want to say something to that?
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: I muted?
• 42:13
  Speaker 5: Uh no, I'm not, Yeah you're not muted.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm a slated. I'm like oppressed by
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: the mute button. Not to have born a woman, I don't.
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: I have a doubt that this is anything. But again, like,
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: if if men totally screwge you over in like six
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: hundred BC, they certainly gave you a whole bunch of
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: leisure time.
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: In nineteen.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: You know, sixty B A D. So what'd you use
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: it for? You got that leisure time, ladies, you got it,
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: You one hundred percent got it. What did you use
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: it for?
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: Okay, let's keep going time.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: Okay, did she actually ever talk about lack of empathy?
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: Did she ever get to the point about lack of empathy?
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: Or I didn't hear it because none of the chapters
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: are named after empathy. But I think it's in the
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: mental load of this section I'm in. And there's another
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: one later that might have it empowerment and empowerment, privilege
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: and philosophy, privilege and philosophy.
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: But okay, it's play some more of this.
• 43:35
  Speaker 6: Of those tests, it's about being the one who's in
• 43:38
  Speaker 6: charge of making mental running lists of everything that needs
• 43:41
  Speaker 6: to be done and when those tasks need to be done,
• 43:44
  Speaker 6: and who those tasks need to be delegated to. And
• 43:47
  Speaker 6: a study published in the American Sociological Review describes it
• 43:50
  Speaker 6: as the responsibility of anticipating needs, identifying options for filling them,
• 43:55
  Speaker 6: making decisions, and monitoring progress. A recent report from the
• 43:59
  Speaker 6: children's profit.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: So what she's doing in this chapter is building the
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: case that women do more mental labor than men.
• 44:07
  Speaker 5: Therefore their life is harder than men.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: So and also they're doing it because men lack empathy and.
• 44:16
  Speaker 5: They're not like thinking of them.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: So she goes into some TV stuff, but I'm gonna
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: skip that, so let me jump ahead to this.
• 44:29
  Speaker 5: Do you want to hear about this study? Yeah?
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: I can't hear you. Don't do anything? Goofy, I can't
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: hear you still according to this, what are your audio?
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: Now I hear you. Okay, Oh no, no, I don't.
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: It was on and then it turned off. There you're
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: going here there here, you know.
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, for some reason, the road microphone is now fucking up.
• 45:08
  Speaker 5: Okay, okay, but.
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: That part okay, that should solve the echo, right, yeah, correct,
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: all right, this is gonna be crack your sound because
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: it's going through my mac my mac microphone. Yeah, there's
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: no U okay, So I don't know what's going on.
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: Everything sort of is screwing up on my end. I'll
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: try re putting that in and seeing if it recognizes it.
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I just I don't know what everything is,
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: just screwed.
• 45:51
  Speaker 5: Up, all right, And uh, you did something? Yeah, that's good.
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: So I returned to my previous mic.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: All right, so we're back at that. Okay. Anyway, so
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: do you want to hear the study that she he
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: brought up? Sure, okay, let's play it.
• 46:14
  Speaker 6: Horizons paints a pretty accurate picture of this. A child's
• 46:17
  Speaker 6: school day isn't just about the physical jobs of pick
• 46:19
  Speaker 6: up and drop off. It's also about the perpetual mental
• 46:22
  Speaker 6: awareness of schedules, including early release days, carpools, doctor's appointments,
• 46:26
  Speaker 6: play dates, special events, field trips, class parties, science fairs,
• 46:30
  Speaker 6: Who needs to bring what in which day? Requires special supplies?
• 46:33
  Speaker 6: And those are only some of the items on the
• 46:35
  Speaker 6: family list that require a working mother's constant mental presence.
• 46:39
  Speaker 6: The mind share versus timeshare equation is at the heart
• 46:42
  Speaker 6: of the mental load, the requirement on women to be
• 46:45
  Speaker 6: not just parents and caretakers, but also unofficial keepers of
• 46:49
  Speaker 6: where the entire family needs to be and when, and
• 46:51
  Speaker 6: perpetual guardians against anything falling through the cracks.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: So somebody made this modern family index, apparently to scare
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: the crap out of women that want.
• 47:02
  Speaker 5: To be mothers, That's what I'm guessing.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: And it lists a bunch of stuff that I guess
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: women just have to deal with.
• 47:09
  Speaker 5: And there is no way around it.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: Like, do you want me to read that a child's
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: school day isn't just about the physical jobs of pick
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: up and drop off, It's about the perpetual mental awareness
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: of schedules, including early release days, carpools, doctor's appointments, playdates,
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: special events, field trips, class parties, science fairs, who needs
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: to bring what and which day requires special supplies? And
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: those are only some of the items on the family
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: lists that require a working mothers contint mental presence. So
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: and of course, you know they say that if there's
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: a larger mental load on women because of this, blah
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: blah blah, I guess you're just gonna have to balance
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: life more.
• 47:50
  Speaker 5: Is that just cruel of me to say?
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: How many?
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: How much of this is necessary for kids? Not a lot?
• 48:00
  Speaker 5: I mean, like I don't.
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: Recall my mother needing to do all of this, Like
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: maybe once a year I had a doctor's appointment and
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: then the rest of the time she said, there's.
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: The door and entertain yourself.
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: Don't play in traffic, but you know, if you do,
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to cry about it. No, that kind
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: of thing, like what are these mother Like this seems
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: to be something that has been chosen. And the other
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: thing is that where is the mental load of being
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: the one who's primarily responsible for paying the bills because
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: men mostly still occupy that role even.
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: When paying for car pools, doctors, well, the car doctor's appointments, playdate,
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: special events, field trips, class parties, the stuff for science fairs,
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: those kinds of things, special supplies.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, actually, come to think of it, my father
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: did most of the science fair stuff and like all
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: of the activities with me, Like, is it not possible
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: if you don't want to do these things just give
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: it to your husband?
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: Like was did he suffer in silence while he had
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: to do that? Was it something that was like the
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: last thing on his mind that he wanted to do.
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: Well, maybe he.
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: Was suffering while doing something engaging with his daughter.
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: I don't know. They kept it to himself. If he did.
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: Seems like, uh, it seems like it wasn't that big
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: a deal. I mean, that was sort of like it
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: seemed like it was more fun stuff because you know,
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: you do like crafts and reading and all kinds of
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: other stuff like I maybe my mother was particularly not interested,
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: but she seemed to get away with not doing any
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: of this, Like if if I wasn't able to keep
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: track of my field trips and my hobbies, I didn't
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: get to do them.
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: Like, yeah, it was the track of people's hobbies. Like
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: what freaking weird.
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: To be fair, I lived in sort of a planned
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: community that was you know, it was gated in in
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: the middle of a you know a yeah, yeah, Saudi Aramco.
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: But still like if you maybe you should keep your
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: kids' activities to things that they can manage, you know,
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: I mean after a certain point, aren't they autonomous enough
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: to do it? I mean, like I walk around this community.
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: I constantly see these these herds of kids doing things
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: not necessarily. I mean, yeah, there's there's there's women's supervision sometimes,
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: there's some men's supervision sometimes. But go to a community
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: where you can tell your kid there's the door entertain yourself,
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: Like is that not possibility? Like how much of this
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: is chosen? And then it's so unbelievably dishonest to choose
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: it and then blame everyone else for it, right, Like,
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: if you don't want to do this stuff, don't do it.
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, It's like they don't they they don't want, they
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: don't want to have to ask permission or even take
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: the initiative. They just want someone to invite them to
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: free themselves of this, like, oh, yeah, I don't want
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: you you know, I don't know. It's like they're they're
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: waiting for people to take the initiative and give you
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: what you want.
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, did your husband ask you to do it? I'm
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: guessing no.
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: Like, honestly, your kids are probably better off learning to
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: manage their own time and entertain themselves.
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: Especially if you if you don't want them depending on you. Yeah,
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: I mean that's that's not good for the kids. And
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: how would that make you feel? If your mom's like,
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I just you just have.
• 51:47
  Speaker 5: Too many needs? Why did I bring you into this world? Then?
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: But honestly, like this.
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: Is this is a self It sounds like a self
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: made problem. But what isn't a self made problem as
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: being ltimately the one and who has to pay the
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: bills for everything, and that's nowhere considered. The emotional load
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: of that isn't considered anywhere. And it is an emotional
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: load when you're somebody who has to make sure that
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: that bills get paid, that can be emotionally exhausting. Right,
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: Where is that in all of this nowhere, and men
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: aren't even bringing it up. It takes me, someone like
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: me even bring it up and even point it out.
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: Most men are like, oh, yeah, I guess, I guess
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: my wife.
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: Really is doing a lot.
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: No, wait a second before you listen to the herod
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: and listen to me.
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: How much are you doing? How much load are you carrying?
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: How much do you have to deal with in terms
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: of paying bills? How much do you have to deal
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: with in terms of stress with what are those things called?
• 52:54
  Speaker 5: What are you talking about?
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: Ah?
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: God, the more I try to find a word, the
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: worse it gets. Commutes right, dealing with having someone breathing
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: down your neck for performance. And here's the other thing
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: we found during COVID that men actually focus on work
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: when they work right, They are single minded about work,
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: whereas women don't work at home. What they do is
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: they do everything else but work.
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: Because it all calls to them.
• 53:22
  Speaker 10: Right.
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: Maybe that's why we partitioned things in the way that
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: we did in the past.
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: And nobody considers that.
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: Nobody considers the load of a man at work because
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: they think, well, it's all the same as a woman.
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: But now we know it isn't when a man is.
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: At work, he's taking more of the mental load of
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: the work. And we know that because when everybody was
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: at home in COVID, men were doing their work.
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: Women were doing their work.
• 54:00
  Speaker 11: And their chores and making playdates and checking their email
• 54:07
  Speaker 11: and you know, men work, women work, and you know
• 54:12
  Speaker 11: that kind of thing.
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: And that's something we found out.
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: So when men at work, they have a higher load
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: at work.
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: Anyway.
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: But you know what, it doesn't have to be a competition.
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: Who started the competition. But the truth is that if
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: you start a competition and then you say, oh, the
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: only way where this competition ends is if you lose,
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: that's not fair.
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: Like women started this.
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: Competition, women like Manifestel, feminist women, all of this resentment
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: towards men that started the competition. And now basically if
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: you say, well wait, why don't we look at the
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: mail side of the equation, They're like, oh, you make
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: it into a competition. No, you made it into a competition.
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: I'm just bringing the.
• 54:59
  Speaker 5: Other side mm hm.
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: Oh good lord. But I see this all the time.
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: Men will be just like, yeah, you got a point. No,
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: she doesn't have a point. She doesn't have a point.
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: There's no point here, no.
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: Points, there is none.
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: There's none to be had here. I ward you no points.
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: We're all stupider for having.
• 55:22
  Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, okay, let's play the next bit.
• 55:26
  Speaker 6: And in one conversation Claire has with Gloria, Claire compares
• 55:30
  Speaker 6: the two of them and says that while Gloria lives
• 55:33
  Speaker 6: with two adults, her husband Jay and their very mature
• 55:36
  Speaker 6: son Manny, she has four children, her three actual children.
• 55:40
  Speaker 5: Okay, I'm sorry, this is the wrong time, coach.
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: She's talking about the show Modern Family, which is like
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: not reality. But like these people always they love their
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: favorite thing. Oh I saw this in a book, TV, whatever,
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: piece of fiction. Not relevant because it's not real. So
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: but okay, here we go for help.
• 56:03
  Speaker 6: Okay, Like when we tell women that it's still their
• 56:06
  Speaker 6: responsibility to remind their husbands to pull their weight out home,
• 56:09
  Speaker 6: we're telling them that it is their sole responsibility to
• 56:13
  Speaker 6: know how to run the household, that when it comes
• 56:15
  Speaker 6: to child rearing chores, that everything certain the family. Men
• 56:18
  Speaker 6: and women aren't really partners, like men are supposed to
• 56:21
  Speaker 6: be heads of household, but plenty of them don't even
• 56:24
  Speaker 6: know how to run one.
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: Yes, that was that's actually common throughout all of human history,
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: right that that's pretty much been the deal.
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: Throughout all of human history.
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: And women didn't want men running the household because that
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: was their thing.
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, if we if we basically make everything
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: men's responsibility, which is where we're headed, but let's say
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: we include everything that used to be the domain of
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: the woman. Isn't that going to make women feel purposeless
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: and depressed and nihilistic and maybe more likely to get
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: on medication to deal with it. It's not going to
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: be a problem because like I think that people like Manifestel,
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: they seem to think that what people want is to
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: be completely comfortable, like never have a job, never have
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: to worry about, you know, making money or creating value
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: in some way or growing something, and you know, taking
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: care of their children and cleaning themselves and taking showers
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: and baths and you know, vacuuming the floor, like mowing
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: the lawn, grow tending their gardens.
• 57:39
  Speaker 5: She seems to think that.
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: People like don't want that at all, and all they
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: want to do is get out of doing any work
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: and just being like essentially on the couch eating bondbonds,
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: watching the days of our lives. Really, Yeah, and that
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying is is that because there's the iron
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: Law Vook projection, she is telling us what the life
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: she wants, and she's saying this is what all women want,
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: because it's what she wants. But what ultimately she doesn't
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: seem to get is and I think this is really
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: sad for her. You don't really want that. Like people
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: will say, oh, man, it'd be great if I didn't
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: have to work, but I think you would find that
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: without a purpose. It doesn't have to be a job,
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: but without some purpose, without some meaning, where you're like,
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: I'm here because my children depend on me. I'm here
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: because my family depends on me, whatever, right, my father,
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: my mother.
• 58:35
  Speaker 5: My siblings. I'm here to serve the.
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: Society, assuming that the society like likes me back. And
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: you know, men of losing that meaning because they are
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: essentially living in a culture that is hostile towards.
• 58:50
  Speaker 5: Them for being men.
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: And they're they're they're like working to live, but they're
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: not exactly like doing it in service to something like
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: they don't.
• 59:00
  Speaker 5: See that as important. And it's not their fault.
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: It is what happened, Like we have taken them for
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: granted and they're reacting accordingly in my opinion. But now
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: women likes these spoiled girlies, these what do they call it,
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: the female dating strategy types, which I think.
• 59:16
  Speaker 5: She is one of.
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: They're basically like, well, my goal is to basically sit
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: on my ass all day and have a man take
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: care of me and then I'm like gonna be completely
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: safe and comfortable and maybe I'll have some kids with him,
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: but I'm not gonna put that high on my list.
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: And so it's like, well, then you are not serving anybody.
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: I mean, you're not even really serving yourself because you're
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: you're going to remain weak and unable to essentially do
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: anything if your situation changes for the worst, like if
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: your husband loses a job or he dies on the
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: job or something, or he cheats on you or he
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: divorces you, like then you're like gonna have no ability
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: to do anything and you have done nothing to essentially
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: like serve of your community. And it's not like the
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: society's hostile towards women, So there's actually a reason for
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: them to be like I think I want to give
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: back to the society that is, you know, like loving
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: on me so much for just being a woman, but
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: of course they're convinced that the opposite is true and
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: that they're actually oppressed and in constant danger.
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  Speaker 5: So yeah, I just think it's gonna be disastrous.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: I think that if you want to like be super depressed,
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: try to like get away from any and all.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 5: Meaning essentially, well.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: Okay, I'm trying to find.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: You're right. This is about believing that the ultimate utopia
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: is one with no struggle and no strife. And I think,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: I honestly think this must have some element to do
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: with the fact that women, you know, they evolve to
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: take care of infants, and the ability to completely tend
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: every single need an infant has is the ultimate goal, right,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: And maybe that's what she sees and somehow's projected on
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: herself as like the infant in the scenario as opposed
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: to the adult. And I totally agree, like having nothing
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: to live up to, nothing to stand for, nothing to
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: strive for, what's the point of your life?
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure, the point of your life.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: You're just going to spend your entire life in this
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: state of wanting to be placed in suspension. You know,
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: I just reminded of Lindsay Sterling. I think it's Lindsay
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: Sterling the violin shatter me. Like she talks about being
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: put in a snow globe, you know, and she wants
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: to be shattered open so that she can live. It's like,
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: it's yeah, no, no, no, should like snow globes shattered
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: open because she's imprisoned in it, not her like a
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: snow globe.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: What she's imprisoned in.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not doing any kind of gore thing,
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: but it just reminds me of that, and it's.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: Like, do you want to actually live? Like what? Why
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 3: do you even have a life?
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: Like when I when I listen to people, I mean, yes,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: what she says offends me.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 3: What about men? Because I care about men, you know, and.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: Not just that I feel that I feel that caring
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: about men has improved my understanding of myself and my capabilities.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: So I find it personally beneficial. It's not necessarily the
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: only reason why I do. It's just sort of like
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: an emergent property. And I look at a life like
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: this and I'm like, you know, no matter what you
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: end up obtaining, no matter who you you manage to
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: get picked by the perfect man, your life is just worthless.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: It's it sucks. I mean, that's what it looks like.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: There's no adventure to it.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: There's no striving, there's no self reliance.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 5: Like, it's just there's no growth, there's no growth.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: It's just pure, unadulterated suckism. Yeah, at some point, hell
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: isn't hedonism if it doesn't make you, it doesn't make
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: you happy, because that's the thing people sort of miss. Well.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: I think you can be hedonistic to the point where
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: it does actually destroy your soul because you know, if
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: you're only doing what you want in the moment all
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: the time, which is a hedonist, then it will in
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: a very short amount of time reveal to you that
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: you should have been, you know, challenging yourself in some way,
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: because now you're just you know, uh fat, or you're
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: you have disease or you have an SCD or something
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: because you would just for the sake of it, because
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: you wanted to. And I think, I think it can't
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: destroy you. I think that you need you need like
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: to reward yourself. So I'm not saying you shouldn't enjoy anything,
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: but I think that if you treat it as a
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: reward and you're gonna get more out of it, or
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: at least you feel like you earned it, because I mean,
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: I don't like getting handouts, so maybe I'm speaking from
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: like personal experience.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 5: I despise it.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: It makes me feel like I'm in somebody's pocket. I
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: can't stand the idea of owing somebody so and I
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: think that that's because I'd rather.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 5: Earn my key.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: I'd rather earn my place, because then I feel better
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: about it, because I'm like, Okay, I tried to do this,
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: and I did well, and then you know, now it's done,
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: as opposed to just gimme, gimme, gimme, because I think
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: that you don't value anything when everything comes easy.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 5: You don't value anything.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and so honestly, your life is the value you
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: put into it, and she's putting no value into her life, Like, yeah,
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: this is just I guess she's achieved this fricking YouTube channel. Congrats,
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: but yeah, it's just like I think it's a fundamental disconnect.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: Maybe it's just a fundamental disconnected values. Like for me,
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: if I haven't achieved something new in a day, if
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: I haven't moved towards one of my goals which I
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: set myself, you know, I don't like I don't. I
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: don't feel happy. I don't feel I'm not happy.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 3: I don't feel fulfilled fulfilled.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: You know, I don't feel content. I feel like I
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: want to get these things done. I want to have
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: something that I'm striving for. And maybe maybe you can
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: just live like this with nothing but your own comfort
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: as your guides done well, you want to.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 5: Achieve anything, yep, And I'll look, I don't.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: And I think that even in Manifestel's case here, you
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: could say that these videos are labor but they're not really,
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: Like she just sort of sits there and you know,
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: fucking pontificates. Yeah, she gets that, but then like she
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: might have people doing all this stuff for her for her,
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: you know, when all she has to do is put
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: on her makeup, put on her outfits in front of
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: her white wall, and start recording from her laptop. And
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying that it's easy, but I'm saying that
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: it's it's not like this is really hard work. And
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: she probably gets a lot of money. I mean, she's
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: got sponsors, she's got hundreds of thousands of subs.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 5: She's she does, she gets sponsors.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: I don't know, like if sponsors don't care if you're
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: if you're big enough, they will you know, they want
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: you to plug them.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 5: So but I think she did when we did one
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 5: of her response video.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: I think she did something to do it was like
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: a VPN and then she probably did like one for
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: makeup or or something something girly. So it's all about
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: what fits. But anyway, all right, let's see what just
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: the next bit here, Yeah, it's coming up, okay, way
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: more it.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: Comes to the mental load.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 12: One of the biggest complaints that women have typically is
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 12: that their partner will say, just tell me what to do,
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 12: tell me what to do, and I'll do it. And
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 12: that in itself is obviously a mental load. But not
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 12: only is it a mental load, it's very frustrating because
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 12: oftentimes they have said what they need or what to do.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: They've said, hey, it'd be really helpful.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 13: If every day you empty the dishwasher, or if you
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 13: could get the kids ready, and then what happens is
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 13: the partner either forgets, doesn't know how to do it,
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 13: continues to ask how to do it, or requires their
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 13: partner to tell them every single time.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 12: So they can't just tell them one time, they have
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 12: to tell them.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: All right, So she's complaining about men because sometimes men
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: forget stuff. Maybe it's because they have like other things
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: on their mind. I don't know, you know, are you there? H?
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 5: Are you talking? I can't hear you. Christ Let me
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 5: go to the next time call while you figure out
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 5: your audio situation.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: Let me seem yeah, I got the red h what?
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: This is? This is again the.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 3: It's here you go. How's that?
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 5: I can hear you.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: There's a little bit of like weird like lag between
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: when you talk and when your mouth moves.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 5: But that's okay, maybe it'll fix itself a problem.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 3: Is it still a problem now?
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah? It's like, oh it's not.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: I can Your camera's fine, but there's like a delay
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: from when you say something and then when the like
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: your camera you says something.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 5: You know what I mean, your lips and voice are
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 5: out of sync.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: I have to change it to the the air airbook microphone.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: Is that working better?
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 5: Same thing?
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: I don't know what it is, but same delay. Yes,
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: the sound is different, but the lay is the same.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: That's I I could not even begin.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 5: And now I can't hear you.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: All right, you should be able to hear me. I
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: returned it to the road microphone.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 5: All right, let me do a refresh.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: Let me try refreshing your camera really quick, and maybe
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: that's all it needs.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 5: Okay, go ahead and say something something. Okay, yep, it's good.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 3: All right, that's good.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 5: All right. It's been an adventure.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 3: It's been an adventure. Yeah, that's a good way of
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 3: putting it.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: It's been an adventure, and we have endeavored to keep
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: keep on.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: So, oh, by the way, somebody said somebody said they
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: were going to report us.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 5: I don't think that's real. They're just trolling.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: Was it in the It might have been in the
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: vertical chat when they said it in the vertical chat,
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: that's yeah, that's probably a random person came across and
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: they were like, I'm reporting this channel by bullhorned Betty.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 5: Well, okay, Betty, report us. We'll see what happens.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: It's the is the it is the potentially the cost
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: of being famous.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 5: So people want to cancel you.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: And except we're not particularly famous, but maybe it'll make
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: us famous.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: All right, anyway, what was I go, oh, yeah, did
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: you want to say anything about that? Because you were
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: I pause it and then you had the camera problem.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: So this was Do we to play that clip again?
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 3: No, it's okay, I remember. Yeah.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: Essentially, she's upset because women need to tell their husbands
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: what they want them to do.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 3: Okay, I'm done with it.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 5: It's a mental it's mental load. I can't do.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: Ladies. You need to start embracing some stoicism, and that
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: means that when there's something that needs to be done,
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: you take a personal sense of satisfaction in doing it,
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: and you don't want anyone else to do it because
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: that takes away your personal satisfaction in doing it.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 3: Because this is aggravating.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: I am watching women destroy their relationships, destroy any possibility
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: of intimacy over this endless resentment towards men. Shut up
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: and do the work. If you want it done, and
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: if you don't want to do it yourself, then let
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: him do it in whatever way.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 3: That he's gonna do it right.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: And if it's more important to you that it gets done,
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: then you do it. And if you want to. If
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: if it's not, just go through the list and decide
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: what is not important for you to do and don't
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: do it. And if it is important to you, then
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: it's important to you, and don't make other people don't
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: drag other people into what's important to you. And the
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: other thing is that they keep offloading stuff and none
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: of it, like you were saying, Brian, none of it's
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: making them happy. No amount of indulging women in this
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: resentment is making women happy. It's making them more and
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: more resentful.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 3: So I usually, like.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: You know, I'm a little skepticism about the pickup artists,
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: but I'm beginning to wonder if all of this isn't
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: a shit test and she simply wants her husband to say, no,
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: I do the work. You decide what chores need to
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: get done, You do them. If you want me to
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: do chores, I will decide what chores need to get done.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 3: Now that is it tastes closed? Moving on?
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: And this is the thing, like and again, this is
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: hard for men. It's hard for men to put their
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: feet foot down with their wives.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 3: It's even harder in.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: A society where there's absolutely no cultural framework for women
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: to actually listen to men, which I think is what
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: they really mean by submit that. And incidentally, the submit
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: to men thing, every single major religion that I have
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: studied has it. Shintoism, Hinduism, Confucianism, Islam, Christianity, Roman, Greek paganism,
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: Norse meganism, a mere Indian paganism, all of it.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 3: All of it.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: You see a civilization of any worth where people aren't
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: just scrumming in dirt to survive. They have that same edict,
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: and I honestly believe that all it is is giving
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: men a chance to be listened to and trusted.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 3: But anyway, the point is, if you.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: Want him to do the chores, give him the control
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: over them, because this is where men are at now.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: They go to work and they're told what to do.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: They go home and they're told what to do, and
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: then their wives divorce them because they're too subservient and boring.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you, guys, you're married, you start on this treadmill. No,
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: if you want me to do those chores, I'm going
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: to grant the control over where and when and how much,
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: and you will not the end, full stop, good night.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 5: So I got a rumble rant from O. C.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: For a dollar, and I forgot to read from earlier,
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: and he says women are not allowed in the philosophy.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 5: Loll, women are NPCs, all right.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: So let's play the next bit. This is the last
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: sound bite. Or sound clip I have, So she doesn't
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: ever really address. Essentially, what she does is just to summarize.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: She brings up these things that feminists have written about.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: She even quotes Nami Wolf, who doesn't write about feminism
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: anymore as far as I know, and essentially builds the
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: case that women have more mental load because they raise
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: children and.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 5: Take care of the household.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: And she also claims, and that's what this clip is
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: going to be, that they make better leaders and men
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: don't have to do any of those things. They just
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: have to work a job. And apparently that is a
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: lot less stressful.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 5: And of course men don't. They're not dads.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: They don't do their part in maintaining a home, you know,
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: they don't pay for everything. They're not net tax contributors
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: or anything like that. They're not the ones that have
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: to have everything together before they even attract a woman
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: to begin with.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 5: No, no, no, none of that. It's all women's labor.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: Like women are essentially propaganizing themselves into believing that everything
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: that women do as like as a biological consequence of
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: being female, like having children, is seen as an inconvenience.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: That's how they're phrasing this now being a mom is inconvenient,
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: and it's all because of these things that change the
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: life endscape of family and jobs and the economy, et cetera,
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: without considering that women were part of the reason why
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: that happened. And then but it's all it's like they're
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: they're literally being they're acting in a way that is
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: contradictory to their nature, and they're miserable.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 5: It's no surprise.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: But anyway, let's play this clip about leadership to see
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: if you do you have to sound still, yeah, I just.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: I just want to point out that unfortunately this angle,
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: you're going to see a lot of hand action.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 5: That's all right, that's all right.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: I also liked Spector Man's arch nephsis doctor Gory, who
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: also used his hands a lot when he talked, probably
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: from sicily, I'm just.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 6: Guessing, okay, and he study conducted by doctor Ellis Eagley,
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 6: a scholar on the topic of women's leadership, she had
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 6: found that women make better leaders because women tend to
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 6: be more transformational leaders that compared to their male counterparts.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 6: Women leaders are more found to seek to develop others
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 6: and listen more effectively. In addition to generally thinking more
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 6: outside the box and a.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: Very okay, I'm just positive for the banana that just
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: we're going to get into some things about the.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: Professor who is in charge of finding how women are
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: superior to men has found.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 5: That are indeed superior to men.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: I'm guessing if I looked at this scholarship, I would
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: be able to poke it apart very easily, remarkably easily.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm I'm I'm actually curious if this isn't just
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: either her citing herself or her being her own subject,
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: or her selecting a pool. But you know, like in
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: a study conducted that's really nebulous. Uh, let me see
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  Speaker 2: if I can find it.
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  Speaker 3: But let's continue with what she.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you got to hear this, this great, this great
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  Speaker 1: shout out that she does for an organization that we
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: all have a.
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  Speaker 5: Lot of respect for and admire very much.
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  Speaker 2: Oh wait, wait, actually here's the thought before we continue.
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  Speaker 2: So what makes better women better leaders is the steric
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  Speaker 2: feminine stereotypical feminine behavior traits that are attributed to them.
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  Speaker 2: Therefore they events because of patriarchy. Well, okay, so women
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: are better leaders because of patriarchy.
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  Speaker 5: That anterest that's one way to look at it. Okay,
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  Speaker 5: let's play this clip.
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  Speaker 6: Sports, including the World Economic Forum's Feature of Jobs report,
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 6: also state that the top skills needed to be successful
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 6: leaders of tomorrow are emotional intelligence, empathy, listening skills, coaching
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 6: and mentoring, and innovation and creativity.
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  Speaker 3: No know that I got all right?
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: Coaching and mentoring. Women don't do that. They don't coach
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: and they don't mentor.
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  Speaker 5: Also, this is.
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  Speaker 1: Whose report was that can we go back? I just
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  Speaker 1: want to show you this is the leaders of tomorrow.
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  Speaker 6: Okayan women leaders were more found to seek to develop
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 6: others and listen more effectively, in addition to generally thinking
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  Speaker 6: more outside the books and various reports including the World
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  Speaker 6: Economic Forum's Future of Jobs Report.
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  Speaker 1: Also the World Economic Forum Future of Jobs Report. You
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: know the World Economic Forum klub schwab eat the bugs
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: live in the pod. These people were trying to create
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: a global government government. They believe in sustainability goals, reducing
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: the population. Not themselves, mind you, just the pleabs. She's
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: reading their reports and that's where she's getting her and
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: that's why they would say things like emotional intelligence and
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: empathy because there they are like the globalist feminist organization,
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: like they are, and they're always talking about women, and
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: they're always giving money to women's causes and whatnot and
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: building them up.
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  Speaker 5: So w EF, that's right to the w EF.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: She's quoting them as a source, So I wonder if
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: they're paying her now that we think about it.
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  Speaker 2: I just took a look at this, at least the
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: report of the named female scientists. These are attitudes that
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: these women leaders are apparently reporting on a study. So
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: women say they are more.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 3: Interested in mentoring others.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: In reality, women don't mentor at all, Like seriously, no,
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  Speaker 2: this is this is something they have a problem with
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: and they we that does not help by pretending it
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 2: doesn't exist. A study in mentorship in science found that
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: women don't mentor other women. Women don't mentor, you know,
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: younger male scientists. It's only older male scientists that are
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: mentoring younger male scientists. And possibly part of the reason
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: why they're not mentoring young female science this is because
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: of the me too stuff. Maybe right, so this is
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: an issue that women have and pretending like a self
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: reporting study in which women say, oh, of course, I
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: think it's vitally important for me to mentor others and
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: nurture them while their actual actions say the opposite, does
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 2: nothing except continue to perpetuate the problem. We need to
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: tell women the things that they have problems with that
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: they stumble at, and we need to tell them you
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: need to work more on this, all right, you need
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: to work more on this.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 3: We don't have to.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: Say, hey, don't do it. We just say this is
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: a flaw. You need to work on it, Okay. You
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 2: need to put effort into it to improve that failure
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: and turn it into a success. And the funny thing
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: is is that while I've talked to a lot of
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: people about bosses, most people say that their worst boss
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 2: was women. But there's a lot of people who also
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: say that their best boss was a woman for whatever reason.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 2: So maybe when women work on these problems, they can
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: actually become pretty good bosses. Right, But you need to
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: acknowledge the problem. You need to realize that you need
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: to put effort into solving the problem, and then you
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 2: need to make it happen. And you don't do that
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 2: by just blowing smoke up in women's asses with this crap.
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  Speaker 5: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: All right, so I'm gonna play the rest. This is
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: the last time COVID. It's probably the best one. So
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: we'll play the rest of this. It's it's a little
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: bit long. I have to stop it a few times,
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: or we could just play it through a Manifestel. Please
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: don't huh.
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  Speaker 5: She's making her money no matter what.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: No, And I don't even think she gives a fuck
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: about the thing she's saying. She's getting a paycheck to
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 2: tell women to destroy their lives. And this is this
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: is what astounds me. I'm gonna go a little segue.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 2: This is what astounds me about conservatives and the Republican Party.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: They're constantly on about immigration. It is increasing the party
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 2: of single women. That's the real problem.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 3: That's where the majority.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 2: Of Democratic voters are coming from. And I'm not even
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: saying this is like having Okay, honestly, one side is
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 2: doing a threat narrative that's really dangerous. So I can't
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 2: say I support them in any capacity, but let's leave
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: it that way. This is an outside observer's opinion. That's
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: where the Democrats' power is coming from, not just immigrants
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 2: and probably lesser immigrants. It is the party of single women,
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: and women like Manifestel are ensuring more and more and
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 2: more and more of them.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: Also ensuring those women opt out of the one thing
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 2: that is going to make them most the most likely
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: thing to make them happy in their life, which is
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: a successful relationship with an adult human of the opposite sex. Right,
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 2: That's what's good likely make you happy. That's that is
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 2: the biggest.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 3: Causal factor to happiness.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: And she's telling these women that instead of just not
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 2: settling because it's but realizing the benefit of having a
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 2: man and just getting on with your life, right, instead
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: of doing that, she's basically putting all of these conditions
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 2: on whether or not she'll actually respect you when you
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 2: choose a man for your life. So, and God knows,
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 2: God knows, I am deeply motivated by Manifestel's respect.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 10: Like, like, seriously, ladies, you're listening to her to your detriment,
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 10: but to the benefit of very large forces that have
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 10: no interest in your happiness, your contentment, your fulfillment, or
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 10: your lives.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: Okay, I think it's yeah, I think it's on purpose.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 5: I think it's to create more voters, honestly.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: But okay, so let's play the rest of this clip.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: And it's, like I said, it's going to take a
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: couple maybe a minute or two.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 6: Will state that the top skills needed to be successful
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 6: leaders of tomorrow are emotional intelligence, empathy, listening skills, coaching
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 6: and mentoring, and innovation and creativity. Not only that, but
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 6: research has also revealed that women tend to be better
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 6: at using these soft skills than men. And if you're
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 6: not convinced, let's science make the case for women even more.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 6: A study by the University of Southern California found that
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 6: under high stress situations, men tend to behave riskier than women,
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 6: often causing negative impacts and costly outcomes. That is, because
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 6: men and women respect to the rest of cortisol.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 3: We go back a bit. What was the name of that.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: Study, Acute stress increases sex differences in risk seeking in
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: the balloon analog risk task.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 5: I mean, I think that's probably true.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: I think that men are more likely to take risks
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: because they're more risk, whether less risk averse or less afraid.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: And I'm unfortunately the truth is is that some of
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: the great discoveries we've made is because people were willing
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: to take risks, and so therefore most of those people
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: were probably men.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 5: Just because of their nature. So I don't think it's untrue.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: But she's basically trying to imply that because men are
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: more likely to be risk.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 5: Takers, that is bad again.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: She's living in the lap of luxury in a world
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: built by men who took risks historically, and she's like, well,
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: this is proof that women would be better. But if
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: women were in charge, we would never take risks to
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: the same degree, so we wouldn't progress as much.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 5: I mean, that'd be my guess. Anyway, Alison, you're muted again.
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 5: I can't hear you.
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  Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I should be back.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 3: Let me just.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 5: I hear.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 2: I know, I know. I'm just going to uh reduce
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: how many freaking things.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: Are plugged in, fighting for fighting for power, fighting, buying
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: for influence, attention.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: Yes, exactly exactly. I'm just going to do something here
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 2: and hopefully this will might assist things. Okay, let's see.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 3: What's going on.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 2: I really wish my everything didn't go to ship. Sorry guys,
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 2: my apologies, but apparently my entire setup just decided to
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 2: crap out today. Let's see what we got here. Uh, well,
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 2: this is the correct one. Yep. Okay, it's not showing up,
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 2: but I did take a look at this. I didn't
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 2: this one, but I'd find a different one sex differences
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 2: in the effect of ultimatum game.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 5: Are going to sell it to me or something more
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 5: juice fare.
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 2: We can take a look at this, but I can
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 2: read the abstract as well. I'll send it to you
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 2: via discord.
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 3: There you go.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 2: So acute stress affects human decision making and what they
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 2: found in this We induce stress via Theior Social Stress
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 2: test and then immediately after measured how participants reacted to
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 2: two offers made in the ultimatum game by a male proposer.
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 2: We found that the female participants were more was less
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 2: likely to reject offers under stress and equals twenty five
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 2: versus no stress and equals thirty thirty seven, independent of
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 2: how fair these offers were. Cooperative behavior consistent with the
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 2: ten and befriend hypothesis. Male participants when stress did not
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 2: show differences in rejection rates compared to the control condition. Incidentally,
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 2: men tended not to reject unfair offers. Again, they were
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 2: fine with twenty five bucks even if somebody else got fifty, so,
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 2: but women tended to actually accept those offers more unfair
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 2: offers when stressed. Men didn't show any result at all.
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 2: So this is an effect under stress. Men are more
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 2: consistent in their decision making, and essentially they just continue
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 2: to accept offers low ball offers even if someone benefits more,
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 2: Whereas women go from absolutely refusing a low ball offer
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 2: if somebody benefits more. So I'm not going to take
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 2: twenty five dollars if you get fifty to being like,
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: oh yeah, I guess I will take twenty five dollars.
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 2: You know you get fifty. If it's more stress, they're
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 2: under more stress, which I don't know if that really
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 2: reflects well on women.
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 3: I'm still trying to find the one that she referenced.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 2: I'll just put in balloon and sue that one balloon.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 5: What's balloon?
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 2: Uh? In risk seeking? Cute stress instances in risk seeking
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 2: in the balloon analog risk task.
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 5: Oh oh oh, I see, yeah, this is what.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 2: She's talking about. Acute stress amplifies sex differences in risk seeking,
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 2: making women more risk avoidant and men more risk seeking.
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 2: Evolutionary principles may explain these stress and do sex differences
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 2: and risk taking behavior. So this study is pretty neutral,
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 2: but it's pretty clear as well, like when you put
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 2: women under stress, they become more more cloistered, more wanting
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 2: to withdraw men apparently want to risk more. They go out,
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 2: you know, they hunt the bear, right.
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 5: I mean yeah, it's like, how does this We have testicles.
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: Which gives assistants erone, which gives us like the you know,
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: confidence and wherewithal to like do something crazy like hunt
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: a monster an animal and bring it back. I mean,
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: it's just evolution. I thought, I thought these people believe
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: in science.
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 2: Okay, so I'm looking okay, So that basically they just
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 2: found that men are more likely to risk take risks,
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 2: and these these differences amplify under stress.
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that like essentially what Manifestel is doing is
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: she's sort of like cherry picking the study to say, look,
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: when men take like, are in a stressful situation, acting more,
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: she they're adding more, Yeah, they act more recklessly, which
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: could you know, and she even says it could or
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: is more likely or often yeah, yeah exactly could cause harm.
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: And it's like yeah, but it also gets things done,
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: like everything, Like again, women not they talk about risk
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: like it shouldn't exist, but it just does. Like you're
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: sitting there making your video, you're you are putting yourself
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 1: in some danger.
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 5: There could be a fire, or somebody could break in or.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 2: A pair of narrow do wells could start picking it apart.
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah right, right, or yeah, like us right exactly, this
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 1: is risk, This is emotional labor for you anyway, all right,
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: let me play the rest.
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 5: Of the clip.
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 6: Bornia found that under high stress situations, men tend to
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 6: behave riskier than women, often causing negative impacts and costly outcomes.
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 6: Study respond to the rise of cortisol differently, with research
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 6: showing that a woman's brain can manage cortisol levels more effectively,
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 6: allowing her to respond with more grace under pressure. So
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 6: maybe instead of commending a woman for responding elegantly to
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 6: a highly stressful situation and pinning it all on her
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 6: women's intuition, let's call it for what it is. Intelligence.
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 5: All right, that's the last clip.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 2: So okay, all right, there's a bit more. I could
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 2: probably read it instead of listening to her anymore.
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: Just the sex differences and the effects of acute stress
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 1: or the balloon thing.
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 2: Well, we already covered the balloon thing. It doesn't look
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 2: like any part of the conclusion. Did they test the
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 2: idea that men's greater risk texting taking results in more
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 2: damage or destruction or anything. It could just result in
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 2: a solution to the problem at hand. But regardless, like
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 2: if a problem requires uh a decision that it lies
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 2: outside the norm, that's a risk.
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 3: And this is actually what comes to.
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 2: Mind is the World Trade Center right during the when
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 2: the first plane oh.
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: Nine reference coming. Guys, that was only like a few
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: days ago.
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 2: You know, sorry, guys, I'm not saying, yeah, do you.
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 5: Need to say the jet jet fuel can't melt steel beams?
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 1: I don't think that. I don't think we're going to
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: get DG. This was like twenty years ago, so three
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 1: years ago.
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 3: But when that happened.
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 2: And there was actually there, it's really interesting to read
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 2: some of the testimonials from the Second Tower because the
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 2: people were in that tower and they witnessed this, this happened,
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 2: and there was all kinds of discussion on what they
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 2: needed to do. Right. Unfortunately, the building management told them
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 2: to stay put, which was exactly the wrong thing. But
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 2: there was like people are like, oh, we must be
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 2: in like the safest place in the world now because
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 2: you know this, you know that, how could that ever
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 2: happen again? Right? And people were basically either just they
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 2: were frozen in place because they didn't know how to
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 2: respond to it. It's not within your vocabulary. You don't
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 2: know what to do in that circumstance, right, And they
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 2: the logic of, well, that's a really unlikely event, so
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 2: it's really unlikely it's going to happen again to our tower.
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 2: It's it's persuasive, it's a persue logic. But there were men,
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 2: specifically men in the C suite that that is the
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 2: executive suite, right, the ones who are in charge of
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 2: taking risks, who saw this and immediately started to tell
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 2: people we're leaving because that was a risk. People didn't
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 2: know that it was a risk to stay because they
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 2: were thinking, oh, hey, what if the likelihood another plane
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 2: will hit our tower?
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 14: Huh?
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 2: You know, But these guys said, no, we're going to
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 2: something fundamentally wrong about this. There is a reason why
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 2: that tower was targeted, and we need to leave. And
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 2: those guys got everyone out because they took the risk,
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 2: the risk of embarrassment, the risk of delaying everybody's work,
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 2: the risk of they took the risk of being blamed
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 2: for doing something stupid against the what the building authority
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 2: was saying. But they did it, and they were getting
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 2: people out and they were still getting people out when
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 2: the second plane hit. That's risk taking, and it's risk
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 2: taking is why many women survived the World trade disaster
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 2: or terrorist attack. Okay, That's why it matters, because when
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 2: you're in a situation where there's no scheme, there's no explanation,
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 2: there's no pattern that you can follow, you need people
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 2: who can break the pattern, and those are the risk takers.
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 2: This is bullshit what she's saying. Bullshit. Yeah, okay, And
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 2: that's what I wanted to say about that, Okay. And
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 2: the other thing is is that she constantly refers to
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 2: it being something that's put on men the way women are.
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 2: So patrin yorkey is responsible for all of these supposed
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 2: benefits that women have. You see what I'm saying, Ye,
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 2: Like men are gatekeeping women's thoughts. Well, doesn't that mean
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 2: that men are responsible for women's greater empathy and everything else?
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 5: Like, yeah, exactly.
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 2: But then she starts talking about how let's see, Okay,
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 2: so we're talking nature, nature, and this acknowledgment I'm quoting
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 2: manifesto here that women aren't actually less than men. Shouldn't
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 2: even stop in the workplace, okay, in our relationships, we
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 2: should also work on dispelling the idea that men are
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 2: the logical ones. Okay, like men are not.
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 3: Yes, And the man is giving the woman.
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 2: Okay, logic okay, on why she shouldn't be feeling a
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 2: certain way okay, And he is not understanding why she
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 2: is that certain way.
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 2: That doesn't mean that he's more logical.
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 5: Stop, make it makes sense.
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 2: When he's being more emotional, that simply just means that
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 2: he's lacking empathy.
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 2: So there are two types of empathy, right, there's cognitive
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 2: empathy and there's emotional empathy. Now, cognitive empathy is when
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 2: you fundamentally understand why a person is feeling a certain way.
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 2: For example, if someone were to die, you can logically
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 2: understand why they're feeling a certain.
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 3: Way, right.
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 2: Or if you get slapped in the face and the
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 2: person gets mad, and you can understand why they feel
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 2: in that way, right, that's logical.
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 2: So if your man isn't fundamentally understanding why they're feeling
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 2: a certain way, that doesn't mean he's more logical why
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 2: you are feeling a certain way. It's the opposite. Okay.
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 2: But what about women? What if they don't fundamentally understand
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 2: why men feel a certain way. Like it's funny because
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 2: I've watched shows where women have said I've looked at
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 2: the opinions of women on the male characters in the show,
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 2: and they were like, oh, they were so devoid of
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 2: any emotion. Like, for example, one example I'm thinking is
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 2: Deckred and Blade Run, the original Blade Runner played by
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 2: Harrison Ford. I'm like watching that entire movie and I'm like,
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 2: holy man, this guy's deeply vulnerable, you know, scared most.
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 3: Of the time while he's doing this thing.
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 2: And you can see it on his face. There's all
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 2: this incredibly tumultuous emotion going on. And I go and
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 2: I read women's comments and like, ow, the main character
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 2: was so stoic.
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 3: It was so boring.
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 2: He didn't have emotions like what are you do? You
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 2: are you face blind? I mean realistically, a lot of women,
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 2: young girls between the ages of nine to seventeen, having
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 2: gone through the last five years, are now face blind.
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 2: But but it's like he didn't notice how much he
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 2: was emoting.
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 3: What did you want him to do?
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 2: Cry and wail and gnash his teeth and pull his
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 2: hair out.
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 3: You could see it.
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 2: And I was like astounded that these these female, these
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 2: femal audience didn't even see that. And I know I'm
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 2: using an example, but I think it's a legitimate examp
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 2: in this case. Now emotional empathy. This is quoting manifesto.
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 2: Now emotional empathies when you are empathizing with a person
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 2: because you are feeling the exact same way. For example,
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 2: if one died in a TV show, a character died
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 2: and all the other characters are crying, you start crying too.
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 2: You are empathizing with them because you are feeling the
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 2: exact same emotion that they are feeling.
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 3: Which is great.
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. You understand why they are feeling that
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 2: same way. So the next time your man say that
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 2: you're being illogical and emotional, tell him, no, you are
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 2: being illogical because you cannot logically understand why I'm feeling
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 2: a certain emotion.
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 5: Do you want to play that time code? Where's that at?
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 1: Uh?
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 2: It's at twenty nine fifty three?
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 1: Oh So I was like, yeah, okay, I was getting
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 1: clod So sorry, I.
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 5: Just got too upset with her. All right, I'll play
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 5: it now.
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 2: Well I gave you a break. Then you can hear
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 2: her words coming out of my mouth. I don't know
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 2: if that helped, and we're not hearing it. I'm not
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 2: so wrong.
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 5: You don't well, you don't.
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 1: Oh, I'm not sharing the tab. I'm sorry to come
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 1: back a little bit. Twenty nine to thirty three.
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 2: Logically, three man is fifty three man.
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  Speaker 14: Why you are feeling a certain way for empathizing with them,
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 14: because you are feeling the exact same emotion that they
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 14: are feeling, which is grief, which is lost because you
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 14: are feeling the.
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 2: Same Oh, it wasn't heard somebody else.
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 5: The same way.
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 14: So the next time your man say you are being
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 14: illogical and emotional, tell him, no, you are being illogical
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 14: because you cannot logically understand why I'm why I am
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 14: feeling a certain emotion. Remember, emotion actually two different things, right, Also,
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 14: empathy and logical empathy is not an emotion. Empathy is
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 14: the understanding of emotions. Always remember that.
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 2: Okay, this is something that I've noticed with women. They
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 2: can feel something I've also, you know, fallen prey to myself.
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 2: You can feel bad about something that you've done or
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 2: something else, and then it can come out in a
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 2: completely different situation and it's totally unfair. So you're not
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 2: that the emotion isn't related to the activity that's just
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 2: taking place, right, Your partner isn't responsible for this shitty
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 2: thing that you're accusing them of. You actually feel bad
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 2: because you failed a deadline, or you've eaten an extra
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 2: donut or some other stupid thing, and you're taking it
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 2: out on your partner, right, Is there any acknowledgment that
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 2: this often happens? Okay? And and also women can make
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 2: men responsible for their emotions when they can't possibly be
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 2: responsible for your emotions they're yours. Oh wait, I forgot
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 2: men gatekeep men's women's brains.
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 5: We're all up in their brains making them feel things.
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, what well.
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 2: So this is all predicated on the idea that men
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 2: have less empathy than women.
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 1: Okay, the other study that that the uh this academic
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 1: dot com thing?
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 5: Are women more empathetic than men?
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 2: Okay, now, let's just let her go. Let's let's keep.
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 5: Going with her, let's keep it all right, all right.
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 6: I love that empathy is understanding of emotions. So if
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 6: you don't have empathy, you don't understanding, you're not being logical.
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 6: Let's get into the comments.
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 1: Oh wait, wait, wait, no, no, wait a minute. No,
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but that doesn't actually like understanding that you
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 1: are upset. That is just that, but like it's what
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 1: comes next, Like okay, So then if you're just like, well,
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 1: I'm mad at you, and and you're supposed to just
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 1: understand that I'm mad at you even though I and
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 1: you're probably saying.
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 5: Well, why are you mad at me? Well, I don't
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 5: have to answer that because you're not being logical. I'm upset.
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 5: That means it's you know, like it's like I feel
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 5: a certain way.
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 1: Therefore it's justified. Like there's nothing, there is nothing you
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 1: can do to like understand it, fix it. You just
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 1: have to leave, like that's what you have to do.
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 1: You have to just get up as a man, and
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 1: you have to go to the other room and just
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 1: do something else because you're being It's a trap. It's
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: just a trap. It's like understand how I'm feeling. Otherwise
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna call you illogical?
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 5: What sorry, Alison? Go ahead? What were we gonna say? Oh,
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 5: I can't hear you, You're not I would need it.
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 5: Oh okay, okay, okay.
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 2: Okay, it's okay, all right, nothing nothing imploded. Understand and
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 2: validate my emotions, but not your own. Like I don't
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 2: have to actually extend myself to understand how you might
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 2: be feeling put upon my anger. Usually it's anger that
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 2: they're talking about her. You know, validate my emotions or
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 2: you aren't logical, you don't have emotional intelligence.
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 5: You know, it's abusive. That's just straight up abusive to me.
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, men did this to women, we would call it abuse,
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 2: and it would be justified in calling it abuse. It's
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 2: justified into calling it abuse here too. Yeah, all right,
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 2: let's keep going.
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 9: All right, it's your too emotional and can't think logically.
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 9: Never I lack the emotional intelligence to empathize with you.
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 9: Emotion and logic are not opposites. Emotions are quite logical
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 9: once you understand them. Ignoring them is illogical.
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 6: So before you accept that you're just not logical enough,
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 6: you're too emotional. Whenever you bring up perfectly valid issues,
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 6: I want you to question whether logic and emotional intelligence
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 6: actually are mutually exclusive.
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 3: You have to have.
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 6: Emotional intelligence to make logical decisions. Those two things are
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 6: not mutually exclusive. And unfortunately, even with all this data
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 6: supporting women's intelligence, it still stands that women's intelligence today
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 6: is still overlooked and downplayed, like, oh, it's intellition.
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 2: Well, the fact that we have a professor of seeing
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 2: women finding women is more intelligent than men, that's uh.
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 2: That means that we've have entire branch of academic study
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 2: devoted to proving that women are more intelligent than men.
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 2: That certainly means that women's intelligence is overlooked, or it
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 2: means that somebody has a bit of a self confidence issues,
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 2: shall always say, or a group of people, yeah, finish.
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 6: Intelligence like men are more logical. Women are so emotional. Meanwhile,
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 6: men do the most irrational things ever, out of ego,
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 6: out of stress, out of the whole.
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 2: Yes, it's irrational, isn't it. I mean, the safest place
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 2: in the world is the second World Trade building after
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 2: the first one's been hit with a bear plane. What's
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 2: the likelihood that that's gonna happen again? That's a totally illogical,
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 2: totally illogical to tell people to evacuate.
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 1: Okay, Allison, we're on a list now, Yeah, I know,
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 1: all right, play some more.
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 6: Okay, men are the heads of household meanwhile, not knowing
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 6: how to run one, Like, give me a break. Okay,
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 6: this is not what we would expect from the born leaders.
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 3: So that all, do you want men to be born leaders?
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 2: Or do you not want men to be born leaders?
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 2: This is what I don't understand about women with this
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 2: particular con They want to judge men for not having
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 2: the traits of born leaders. Will have men tell them
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 2: that they're equal, that we win and women are equal.
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 2: So they want to hold men to a higher standard,
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 2: but still have men say, oh, yeah, we're equal to women.
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 3: Hmmm.
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 2: Seems a little illogical and also unempathetic.
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 3: Funny that.
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 5: Yep, all right, keep playing.
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 2: Let me see whether if there's anything God really witters
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 2: a lot, you know what, I'm good because all of
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 2: this is based on bullshit, and I'm gonna show you
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 2: right now. We're going to go through it. If Brian
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 2: can put it up.
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah, what do you want me to put up right now?
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 2: The empathy study? Okay, because this is this is it.
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 2: This is this is the actual situation when it comes
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 2: to empathy.
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 5: All right, Well, I have it up. Can you see it? Yep?
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 2: I can see it? All right? This is are women
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 2: more empathetic than men? Questionnaire and EEG estimations of sex
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 2: gender differences in empathetic ability. Right, do you want me
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 2: to read it or show?
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 1: Sure? Go ahead, I mean, like when we just do
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 1: the abstract.
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, put the abstract up, I'll read it. Okay. Guys,
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 2: Remember we've just had almost two hours of this woman
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 2: making all kinds of assumptions based on the idea that
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 2: men are less empathetic than women. So everything that she
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 2: said is utter bullshit abstract. The debate regarding whether women
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 2: are more empathetic than men has broad scientific, social, and
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 2: clinical implications. However, previous independent questionnaires and brain imaging studies
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 2: that tested different samples reported inconsistent results regarding sex, gender
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 2: differences and empathetic ability. We conducted three studies to investigate
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 2: sex gender differences in empathetic ability. It's a bit difficult
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 2: for me to read the abstract while you're moving around.
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 5: I'm sorry. I just want to make the whole thing fit,
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 5: so all right.
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 2: We conducted three studies to investigate sex gender differences and
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 2: empathetic ability using large stample questionnaires and electro and cephili
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 2: graphate GRAPHI and electro and cephalography EEG measures. We showed
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 2: that the estimation of empathetic ability using the interpersonal reactivity
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 2: in index questionnaire showed higher rating scores and women than
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 2: in men. In all studies, however, are EEG measures of
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 2: empathy indexed by both phase locked and non phase locked
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 2: neural responses to others painful versus neutral facial expressions support
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 2: a null hypothesis of the sex gender difference in empathetic ability. Translation,
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 2: women are not more empathetic than men.
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 3: They aren't.
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 15: It's been an artifact of women's saying they're more empathetic
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 15: than men. In addition, we showed evidence that priming social
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 15: expectations of women and men's ability to share and care
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 15: about others feelings eliminated the sex gender difference in questionnaire
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 15: measures of empathetic ability. So essentially, what they did is
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 15: they do something like it's manly to understand other people's emotions,
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 15: and then they would ask men, do you understand other
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 15: people's and the sex difference disappears.
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 2: You just have to prime them to have it not
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 2: be in contradiction to their identity, and of course it
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 2: becomes consistent with the readings of brain scans. Our large
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 2: sample EEG results challenge the notion of women's superiority and
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 2: empathy that is built on subjective quick questionnaire measures that
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 2: are sensitive to social desirability. Our findings indicate that whether
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 2: the notion of women's superiority and empathetic ability reflects a
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 2: biological social difference between women and men or a gender
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 2: role stereotype remains an open question. I think it's actually
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 2: pretty much a close question. The close question is whether
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 2: or not men or women are more empathetic. Truth is,
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 2: women are not more empathetic than men, the full stop.
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 2: They're not more apathetic than men. Now, I also sent
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 2: another thing to you. Let's look at whether or not
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 2: women are more capable.
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 1: The seven year cognitive puzzle that still divides the sexes. Yes,
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 1: I'll read this one curtain open. It's called the w
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 1: LT or short for water level task. I want to
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 1: introduce it to you by asking you to attempt it,
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 1: and please don't look ahead to the answer.
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 5: Figure shows what.
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's let's let's put our audience to the test.
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 2: Go ahead.
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think that they could answer this.
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 1: But let's see. I mean, they can't draw online, that's
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 1: the thing.
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but they can tell us approximate the line.
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 1: With Yeah, they can tell you what it would look like. Okay,
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 1: So it says. Figure A shows a glass, put some
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 1: water in it. Right here, Figure B the glass has
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 1: been tilted. Draw a line to show where the water
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 1: line should be. Seems like pretty straightforward.
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 2: Pretty straightforward. Let's let's not tell anybody the answer. You guys,
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 2: just look at that. Try to figure it out.
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 5: Draw a line to show where.
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 2: You imagine a glass full of water, and then just
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 2: tilt it, you know, forty five degrees, and what does
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 2: the water line look like? Okay, what is its approximate direction?
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 2: All right, let's keep going.
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 5: All right, have you done it?
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 1: Please do if you didn't, and show your answer in
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 1: the comment section. All right, in the if the line
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 1: you drew is anything other than horizontal, you answered wrong, dude,
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't go into the physics of why liquids follow
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  Speaker 1: gravity instead of the orientation of their container, as there
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  Speaker 1: are at steam stem authors who can do a better
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  Speaker 1: job of that thing.
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  Speaker 6: Is.
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  Speaker 1: If you can read, then you should have enough real
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  Speaker 1: life experience to know that it's invariably what happens. You'd
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 1: never be able to drink a glass of water by
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  Speaker 1: tilting the glass if the water level followed the bottom
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 1: of the glass like some kind of jelly females disproportionately
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 1: give this wrong answer to this puzzle give the wrong answer.
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  Speaker 5: In their efforts to.
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 1: Level the results, the researchers tried using photos instead of schematics,
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 1: using a container with rounded sides so that there'll be
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 1: less interference with the horizontal water line, having the water
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 1: lines pre drawn, and just asking the participants which line
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 1: looked correct, and just generally making it easier and easier.
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 1: It didn't matter. After decades of variations of the puzzle,
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 1: a significantly higher proportion of female adults and adolescents still
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 1: draw a slanting line for fairness. I must mention that
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 1: not all interventions are failures.
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 2: So this is the Google backup I want to read worked.
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 2: The intervention that finally worked to get women to understand
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 2: what happens to water levels and a tilted glass is this.
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 2: Thomas Jamison and Hummond Hummel demonstrated that when previously inaccurate,
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 2: college women were allowed to view the actual water level
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  Speaker 2: in a bottle tilted to the same angle as the
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 2: test item they copy accurately. So you literally had to
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  Speaker 2: show the women the glass with the water in it
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 2: and then tilt it over, and then they were like, oh,
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 2: I can copy that on the test paper. And this
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 2: is college women that did this like women, Okay, let's
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 2: move on, as it says.
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  Speaker 5: Let's move on, all right.
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  Speaker 1: You won't learn a whole lot about the water level
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  Speaker 1: task from its Wikipedia entry. It's shorter than this post
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 1: opening section. Yeah, I bet it is. At least it mentions.
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 1: It was developed by Pha. His college inc In Helder's
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 1: part was in this. His college in Helder's part in
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 1: this was apparently co signed or consigned to oblivion. Those
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 1: of you who know him know Pha's work was primarily
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 1: in child development.
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 5: The WLT is no exception.
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 1: He developed it in order to probe children's emerging spatial
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  Speaker 1: concepts and reasoning. It was by accident that a sharp
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 1: sex division in the subject's ability to complete the.
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 5: Task was noticed. More on this in a bit PHA.
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  Speaker 1: And then there's like five stages or although five I
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 1: mean six examples here, I don't know, but let's keep going.
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 1: Phja distinguished five stages in the developing ability of children
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 1: to solve the puzzle. The first stage is drawing squiggly
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 1: lines basically a big middle finger pointed in the direction
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 1: of the researcher.
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  Speaker 5: Then the lines follow the bottom of the container.
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 1: Then in the third stage, the line starts tilting, as
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 1: if trying to negotiate the gravity from the Earth with
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 1: the gravity from the bottom of the container. In the
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 1: fourth stage, they figure it was all it figured it
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 1: out in all cases where straight angles are involved, but
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 1: get it wrong whenever the glass is tilted. In the
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 1: fifth and final stage, they get it right. The children
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 1: reached the final stage by age nine, and there was
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 1: nothing to indicate that adults would have any difficulty with
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 1: the task. That was until one Rebelski, true to the
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 1: rebel part of her name, came along and disturbed the
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 1: waters by reporting that some of her graduate and undergraduate
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 1: students had great difficulty correctly completing the task. But most importantly,
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 1: in addition, Rebelski reported that females were less accurate than
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 1: males of finding that has been replicated by virtually all
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 1: subsequent researchers. Why a number of hypotheses has been proposed
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 1: as so why women underperform men so much.
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  Speaker 5: My favorite is socialization. If you think that and.
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 2: Gate keep women's brains.
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 5: That's what it is. Yeah, that's what it is.
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  Speaker 3: It's men. It's men whispering to women.
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 2: In their inner ear. The choose the don't choose the
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 2: slanted line, anything but the slanted line.
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 1: If you think that amounts to trying to explain why
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 1: women have less experience with drinking glasses of water compared
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 1: to men, you're right, and that's what that means. But
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 1: in fact, the WLT is often used precisely to falsify
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 1: the argument that large sex differences between the cognitive skills
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 1: and men and women are always the result of greater
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 1: experience or socialization that favors the men. The water level
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 1: task exhibits large sex differences despite the fact that every
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 1: Western child, male or female, has daily experiences with fluids
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 1: and transparent containers. To be fair, there is clear evidence
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 1: that boys and girls have different experiences and that those
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 1: experiences favor males.
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 5: I don't know about that.
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 1: Here's some concrete examples relating to mathematics. Girls attribute success
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 1: and math to their effort. Boys attributed to their ability.
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 1: Girls attribute their failure in math to their lack of abilities.
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 1: Boys attributed to their lack of effort.
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 2: Remember if you attribute to failures to effort, you're more
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 2: likely to succeed. Right.
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 1: Parents blame bad math scores of their sons on bad
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 1: teachers and attribute bad math scores of their daughters to
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 1: lack of effort by teachers.
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 2: I haven't had real suspicion about that, but probably the
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 2: parents aren't wrong considering boys are grade and worse, and
• 1:59:42
  Speaker 2: that's proven in studies in at least one study.
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's true.
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 1: Math teachers treat boys and girls differentially, and female math
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 1: teachers make self deprecating remarks about their own abilities. So
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 1: our girls and boys differentially expose to mathematics and spatial
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 1: related training and expectations. Sure can mathematical and spatial abilities
• 2:00:04
  Speaker 1: be influenced by experience? And do boys get more of
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 1: that experience?
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 5: Certainly? I don't know about that. Did they go is
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 5: there more to this or I'm going to read the whole.
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 2: Thing is that. I think it's pretty much done. So
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 2: they just go on and on and on about it.
• 2:00:19
  Speaker 2: I just wanted to point it out. I mean, they
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 2: did try to do some No matter what they do,
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 2: women always do worse on this test, and it's a
• 2:00:29
  Speaker 2: very simple test of logic like space logic and spatial awareness.
• 2:00:34
  Speaker 5: I guess yeah.
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 2: So, I mean, and when she says, you know, men
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 2: are more are less empathetic. No, women are more logical
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 2: or as logical. No, at least not in this in
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 2: this capacity, and not when it comes to like spatial
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 2: I guess spatial projection or spatial manipulation, they have trouble
• 2:01:01
  Speaker 2: with it. They go okay. So none of this is
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 2: something that women as a group can claim. I mean,
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 2: most women do pass this test. It's just a sizeable
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 2: minority that are incapable of it. So I mean, and
• 2:01:18
  Speaker 2: maybe they're all in Manifesto's audience. Who knows, Maybe they
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 2: all became feminists and they attribute their inability to truly
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 2: understand systems and spatial reasoning and logic to I guess
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 2: the little patriarchy on their shoulder.
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 3: That's keeping their.
• 2:01:35
  Speaker 2: Thoughts and what they need to do. Got ladies, what
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 2: you need to do is you need to manifest the
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 2: mother goddess on the other side, and she can whisper
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 2: the slanted lines correct and not correct. It's the torsonal
• 2:01:49
  Speaker 2: line you can whisper the correct answers. That's what you
• 2:01:52
  Speaker 2: need to do. You need to manifest your inner mother
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 2: girth goddess to counteract the patriarchal gatekeeping in your right
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 2: or you can just throw all this shit out, recognize
• 2:02:03
  Speaker 2: that there are some limitations you operate under as a woman,
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 2: and employ your effort to overcome them.
• 2:02:12
  Speaker 5: That's crazy.
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 2: That's crazy talk. I mean that's the way I've always
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 2: sort of looked at it. I mean, because there's some
• 2:02:19
  Speaker 2: things that I've you know, Jonathan I said to point
• 2:02:23
  Speaker 2: out that I do because I'm a woman, and I
• 2:02:26
  Speaker 2: you know, I'm still a woman. I still have you know,
• 2:02:29
  Speaker 2: female hormones and stuff. So a lot of this stuff
• 2:02:32
  Speaker 2: is something that I also have done. And it takes
• 2:02:36
  Speaker 2: an effort to just stop and think and say, Okay,
• 2:02:41
  Speaker 2: is that logical? Is that reasonable?
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 3: Is it rational?
• 2:02:44
  Speaker 4: Is it just?
• 2:02:45
  Speaker 2: And step away from it. It's it isn't. And sometimes
• 2:02:49
  Speaker 2: it's just you know, being being a mammal, and we're
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 2: all mammals, so we sometimes just get feisty. It's the
• 2:02:56
  Speaker 2: way of the beast. But but but it's like, it's
• 2:03:00
  Speaker 2: these limitations that women operate under are just limitations, Like
• 2:03:05
  Speaker 2: they are not fate unless you refuse to acknowledge them
• 2:03:09
  Speaker 2: and refuse to see them in terms of your own
• 2:03:11
  Speaker 2: personal individual effort. And I think that's the real problem here,
• 2:03:18
  Speaker 2: that's the real socialization. That's The problem is that women
• 2:03:23
  Speaker 2: think everything comes out of other people's opinions of them
• 2:03:26
  Speaker 2: an innate ability, when almost everything really comes out of
• 2:03:29
  Speaker 2: effort and your willingness to hold yourself to standards and
• 2:03:33
  Speaker 2: strive for them. Okay, all right, what we need to
• 2:03:37
  Speaker 2: do for women and girls and then maybe that most
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 2: of them will pass this test.
• 2:03:44
  Speaker 5: I had that in the start. I think it's a start.
• 2:03:47
  Speaker 5: So I got a rumble rent from.
• 2:03:49
  Speaker 1: O C for a dollar and he says the water
• 2:03:52
  Speaker 1: level is just a manifestation of the white male system
• 2:03:55
  Speaker 1: affecting the reality that we live in a patriarchy. Women
• 2:03:58
  Speaker 1: need to reject the horizontal line and to connect their
• 2:04:00
  Speaker 1: solar plexuses.
• 2:04:02
  Speaker 5: There you go.
• 2:04:04
  Speaker 2: You got to get astrology in there somewhere, good friend.
• 2:04:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like the you know, Pisces is rising and and
• 2:04:13
  Speaker 1: uh Taurus is in I don't know, well whatever they say.
• 2:04:18
  Speaker 5: It's in recession. Met retrograde, Yeah, retrograde. There you go.
• 2:04:25
  Speaker 2: All right, Well we have I think we've done a
• 2:04:28
  Speaker 2: good job and responding to this. So yeah, my last
• 2:04:33
  Speaker 2: statements is, uh uh, this isn't destiny, but it is
• 2:04:40
  Speaker 2: destiny if you refuse to acknowledge it, if you refuse
• 2:04:43
  Speaker 2: to use effort to overcome it. Okay, So that's what
• 2:04:47
  Speaker 2: I would say. It's probably not a welcome statement to
• 2:04:50
  Speaker 2: any woman there watching this, but it's like, yeah, you can.
• 2:04:53
  Speaker 2: You can manage this stuff. You just have to be
• 2:04:55
  Speaker 2: aware of it and put effort in overcoming it.
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 5: That's it, because like.
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 1: You know, men that men in your life might like
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 1: call you out, and you have to be willing.
• 2:05:09
  Speaker 2: To be like you're listen, willing to listen to them,
• 2:05:12
  Speaker 2: which is which is I honestly think that's what really
• 2:05:16
  Speaker 2: is going on with that whole submission thing. It's just
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 2: giving men a chance to be heard and the way
• 2:05:21
  Speaker 2: that they view the world to be seen as valid, valid,
• 2:05:24
  Speaker 2: and honestly it is valid. There's no reason to believe
• 2:05:27
  Speaker 2: that men have any less empathy, and they do have naturally,
• 2:05:31
  Speaker 2: it seems certain skills and abilities that women don't necessarily
• 2:05:36
  Speaker 2: have or don't have as consistently, and that includes greater
• 2:05:40
  Speaker 2: tolerance for risk taking, which leads to very good outcomes
• 2:05:44
  Speaker 2: when you're in a situation where you have to take
• 2:05:47
  Speaker 2: a risk or die. Okay, So I mean and it's okay,
• 2:05:51
  Speaker 2: like it's it's fine that men have their own thing.
• 2:05:55
  Speaker 2: We're not going to melt into oblivion if that's the
• 2:05:58
  Speaker 2: case as women, And ultimately, you know, if you want
• 2:06:02
  Speaker 2: to overcome limitations, then you put your effort in and
• 2:06:07
  Speaker 2: you can do that. And I think women have their
• 2:06:10
  Speaker 2: own thing that they add to the world, and I
• 2:06:13
  Speaker 2: could get into that, but that would be a whole
• 2:06:15
  Speaker 2: other show. So I'm just gonna say, let's all treat
• 2:06:20
  Speaker 2: each other with excellence, but not lie about our limitations, right,
• 2:06:25
  Speaker 2: and not pretend like if we all imagine something then
• 2:06:28
  Speaker 2: that's that it becomes so, or say bizarre things, or
• 2:06:32
  Speaker 2: try to excuse the fact that our own chosen as women,
• 2:06:37
  Speaker 2: our own chosen.
• 2:06:40
  Speaker 3: Path of not putting effort in.
• 2:06:43
  Speaker 2: Not recognizing potential pitfalls and putting effort in and enduring
• 2:06:47
  Speaker 2: our failures is why our outcomes aren't as good. We
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 2: don't recognize that. So instead of what we what do
• 2:06:54
  Speaker 2: we do? We blame it on the patriarchal earworm that's
• 2:06:58
  Speaker 2: gatekeeping our thoughts. Are you freaking kidding me?
• 2:07:01
  Speaker 1: No?
• 2:07:02
  Speaker 3: All right?
• 2:07:02
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• 2:07:08
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• 2:07:13
  Speaker 2: I thought it was an important one because there is
• 2:07:16
  Speaker 2: an assumption out there and people are use this assumption
• 2:07:20
  Speaker 2: to make additional stupid statements about the sexes. And the
• 2:07:24
  Speaker 2: assumption is that men are less empathetic than women.
• 2:07:27
  Speaker 3: No, they aren't.
• 2:07:29
  Speaker 2: We now know that all of the studies, and this
• 2:07:32
  Speaker 2: is something that I was actually pointing out years ago,
• 2:07:35
  Speaker 2: So I'm really glad that someone did a large scale
• 2:07:37
  Speaker 2: study improved this effect. I was pointing out that, you know,
• 2:07:41
  Speaker 2: if you do reflex studies or studies that do brain
• 2:07:44
  Speaker 2: imagery and you don't find any difference in empathy between
• 2:07:48
  Speaker 2: men and women. And I was saying this like ten
• 2:07:50
  Speaker 2: fifteen years ago. It's great to see this study now
• 2:07:54
  Speaker 2: because it feel vindicated that I'm right, and they have
• 2:07:58
  Speaker 2: proven that the the reason why women are seen as
• 2:08:01
  Speaker 2: more empathetic is because they feel it socially desirable to
• 2:08:06
  Speaker 2: be seen as more empathetic, which also ties into that
• 2:08:08
  Speaker 2: whole leadership survey that we talked That manifestel talked about
• 2:08:13
  Speaker 2: with is some this professor in charge of showing women
• 2:08:17
  Speaker 2: how women are more awesome th ever and always over men.
• 2:08:21
  Speaker 2: You know that actually if you ask female leaders what
• 2:08:25
  Speaker 2: do they value, they will say things that they believe
• 2:08:30
  Speaker 2: are socially desirable, but they won't necessarily be doing those
• 2:08:34
  Speaker 2: things at all. In fact, they may be doing them
• 2:08:39
  Speaker 2: considerably less than men. So there's a difference between these
• 2:08:43
  Speaker 2: surveys that ask women to report their empathy and those
• 2:08:47
  Speaker 2: surveys that actually look at empathy, that look at the
• 2:08:52
  Speaker 2: brain responses, the reflexes, and those surveys are those studies
• 2:08:58
  Speaker 2: show no difference. So anyway, anytime a woman beaks off
• 2:09:03
  Speaker 2: about women being more empathetic, Nope, they aren't. Sorry, get
• 2:09:08
  Speaker 2: to claim that for yourself. That's not an inheritability for women.
• 2:09:11
  Speaker 2: In fact, empathy is a result of taking the effort
• 2:09:16
  Speaker 2: to understand other people. Have women taken a lot of
• 2:09:20
  Speaker 2: effort to understand men don't think so anyway, So once again,
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• 2:09:33
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• 2:09:37
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• 2:09:39
  Speaker 2: one because of that study, because I feel vindicated. I
• 2:09:42
  Speaker 2: think men should feel indicated. You're not less empathetic, Like
• 2:09:46
  Speaker 2: anybody with a brain could have told you that but yeah,
• 2:09:50
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  Speaker 1: All right, Well, before I end this thing here, I
• 2:10:42
  Speaker 1: did get some super childs that for some reason aren't
• 2:10:44
  Speaker 1: showing up on my social stream ninja, so I'm just
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  Speaker 7: Okay, So Pepito, Pepito gives us five dollars and says
• 2:10:55
  Speaker 7: it's funny how she says women have been gate kept
• 2:10:58
  Speaker 7: out of philosophy while historical records.
• 2:11:00
  Speaker 5: Of the Roman era. Oh I already read that, didn't I.
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  Speaker 5: That's what That's what the Pizzo sent us.
• 2:11:09
  Speaker 1: Women are born confident Manifestel twenty twenty four. They cry
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  Speaker 1: of confidence out of the womb.
• 2:11:15
  Speaker 5: Lol. And then Richard Bierre gives.
• 2:11:17
  Speaker 1: Us five bucks and says, when Alison is quoting Manifestel,
• 2:11:20
  Speaker 1: she needs to do so in her Raven Moondragon voice.
• 2:11:23
  Speaker 5: No okay, yeah, no.
• 2:11:26
  Speaker 2: No Raven Moon Dragons to to not evil for Manifestell.
• 2:11:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, I need.
• 2:11:34
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• 2:11:35
  Speaker 1: A need the channel like Rachel Ziggler. That's the ultimate
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• 2:11:59
  Speaker 1: guys so much are coming on the show and enduring
• 2:12:01
  Speaker 1: all of our little technical issues and we will talk
• 2:12:04
  Speaker 1: to you all in the next video.
• 2:12:07
  Speaker 5: Yes are machines, dude. Okay, they are literal machines. They
• 2:12:13
  Speaker 5: are talking point machines.
• 2:12:15
  Speaker 1: They are impossible to fucking deal with, especially if you
• 2:12:17
  Speaker 1: have like especially if you have like a couple of
• 2:12:19
  Speaker 1: dudes who have good memory.
• 2:12:20
  Speaker 5: On top of that too, holy shit, you're fucked