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Deadspace - Reed my mind · Trapped Souls Podcast

0:26
SPEAKER_02: We try to get answered.
0:32
SPEAKER_02: You're listening to Trap Souls.
0:39
SPEAKER_03: Hey, welcome to Trap Souls.
0:41
SPEAKER_03: You're listening to another episode of Dead Space.
0:44
SPEAKER_03: I'm here with my friend, my boy Reed.
0:47
SPEAKER_03: Uh he went on our last adventure, Madison Seminary.
0:52
SPEAKER_03: It was his first, I guess, real paranormal investigation.
0:56
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, for sure.
0:57
SPEAKER_03: And we'll talk about that a little bit.
0:59
SPEAKER_03: But what I want to get into is what was your first paranormal experience that kind of got you into wanting to investigate?
1:09
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, sure.
1:10
SPEAKER_00: So, I mean, when you're a kid, you think you hear and see a lot of things, but uh you never really know until something real happens to you, right?
1:18
SPEAKER_00: And I was always a believer in if you don't see it, how do you believe it?
1:22
SPEAKER_00: My dad always beat that into me, you know, not in the abusive father kind of way, but yeah.
1:27
SPEAKER_00: Um but I had an uh apartment in Conyat, Ohio, and it was an old mansion that was divided into like seven different apartments, and we had a lot of really weird things happen in that place from doors opening on their own, footsteps walking up to you on furniture, and then eventually I was assaulted, and that was my final straw in that house.
1:49
SPEAKER_00: And after that happened, I packed up my stuff and I was out.
1:53
SPEAKER_03: So besides that one experience, what was the one experience that you say, yeah, this shit's real?
2:00
SPEAKER_00: Besides that, I've never really run into anything that I've experienced that I believe just 100% it's real.
2:09
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
2:10
SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, you always see lights flicker on and off, or you'll go to turn on a light switch and the lights are out, the power's out, but then the power comes back on, you get a weird feeling, you know, you think you hear something in a house, but you know there's always a reason for it.
2:25
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
2:25
SPEAKER_03: So it's your one experience, is that the reason you wanted to investigate?
2:30
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
2:31
SPEAKER_00: So I, you know, watch a lot of shows.
2:33
SPEAKER_00: I watch a lot of haunting shows.
2:34
SPEAKER_00: The haunting was a big show, I binged all the time, and uh I wanted to actually experience it because before I was hit in that apartment, um I never thought anything could hurt you, like physically, because you're always told, yeah, you can, you know, you'll see things, you'll hear things, but it can't hurt you.
2:51
SPEAKER_00: Well then when I found out that it can hurt you, it opened my eyes up in two different ways.
2:55
SPEAKER_00: Um there was, hey, uh something can hurt you, so let's check it out.
3:00
SPEAKER_00: And then there was something can hurt you, so be more aware.
3:03
SPEAKER_00: So in a way, it kind of made me want to run towards it.
3:06
SPEAKER_00: On the other hand, it made me respect it because uh we used to go on you know ghost hunts as kids, like in a basement or a family member's house, and we go around asking questions, our phones would die, something like that, and be oh, you know, the paranormal.
3:20
SPEAKER_00: And my cousin would always go around and scream at it, swear at it, you know, try to make a point.
3:24
SPEAKER_00: And after what happened to me, I was like, uh, that's not the approach to go to when you're actually looking at spirits.
3:30
SPEAKER_00: One, you don't want to disrespect them, too.
3:32
SPEAKER_00: I know they can hurt you now.
3:34
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I mean that's the big thing when you're younger, you always see these people like yawning at them or whatever.
3:42
SPEAKER_03: And that's I mean, that's not the way to go about it.
3:44
SPEAKER_03: I mean, you do have to respect them.
3:46
SPEAKER_03: I mean, if you have a healthy respect, hopefully they respect you.
3:49
SPEAKER_03: I mean, in your instance, 99% of paranormal stuff won't hurt you.
3:57
SPEAKER_03: You just had bad luck, I guess.
3:59
SPEAKER_03: I mean, but you can go into that an area that there's a bad spirit there.
4:05
SPEAKER_03: Doesn't mean it's demonic.
4:07
SPEAKER_03: It's just you know, I always say that like everything's a bad spirit is demonic.
4:13
SPEAKER_03: Like it's going to possess you or whatever.
4:16
SPEAKER_03: We all know as living that there's assholes.
4:19
SPEAKER_03: Right.
4:20
SPEAKER_03: So how come there can't be an like an asshole ghost?
4:23
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
4:25
SPEAKER_03: You know, and I always tell people like, well, this person's doing this or this spirit's doing this, must be evil.
4:31
SPEAKER_03: If you die and become a spirit, you know, trapped in between, would you mess with your friends?
4:39
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and I think I think a lot of it comes down to, like I was mentioned before, but a respect factor.
4:45
SPEAKER_00: So I a lot of these movies and shows you see always starts out with, you know, the couple moving into a new house, and little did they know.
4:52
SPEAKER_00: But I think a lot of it is, I mean, you know, they're gonna protect what was last theirs, or that's just how they lived.
4:58
SPEAKER_00: I don't know how it works on the other side, but I would assume there's some kind of connection factor that they're still gonna go on with their daily activities, even though they're gone.
5:07
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and that's a lot of people argue that it's an argument that a lot of people have that like if someone passed in this house and this is their house, they build it, they remodeled it.
5:20
SPEAKER_03: But when you start changing stuff, it becomes more active because that's not the way they're used to it.
5:26
SPEAKER_00: Right.
5:27
SPEAKER_03: But it also could be like residual.
5:30
SPEAKER_03: Do they know they're dead?
5:31
SPEAKER_03: Are they are they just going about their daily lives?
5:35
SPEAKER_03: Like they don't maybe they don't see us, and they're just going about their daily lives.
5:40
SPEAKER_03: We'll never know.
5:42
SPEAKER_03: Right.
5:42
SPEAKER_03: But when you start remodeling stuff and all that, that's usually when stuff gets active because you're changing their house.
5:50
SPEAKER_03: It was always their house.
5:52
SPEAKER_03: Right.
5:52
SPEAKER_03: So especially like back in the day, like families live a married couple live in the same house for you know 70 years.
6:03
SPEAKER_03: And now someone new comes in and like, oh, nice wallpaper.
6:08
SPEAKER_03: Like, no, we're gonna take the wallpaper down, or I want a door here, or whatever.
6:12
SPEAKER_00: So it could it could well then how how long ago it was, you know what I mean?
6:18
SPEAKER_00: I mean house was built in the 1800s or you know, even respectfully the late 1700s, and how are they gonna how are they gonna deal with you coming in and you have washing machines now and dishwashers and stuff, and they've never seen anything like that, so that's one thing I never really understood.
6:38
SPEAKER_03: Like, we go to all these, like, do these investigations and we're like, hey, there's a REM pod here.
6:46
SPEAKER_03: They have no idea what a freaking REM pod is.
6:49
SPEAKER_03: Like, they didn't have batteries back in the day, like it's kind of stupid.
6:53
SPEAKER_03: Like, hey, talking to my cell phone.
6:55
SPEAKER_00: They're like, right, the hell's that?
6:58
SPEAKER_00: And you know, to lead into you know, my first investigation with you guys, you know, we went to the seminary in Madison, and you guys use a bunch of equipment that I've never seen before, except for maybe a couple things on a show or something, and you you mentioned talking into these, you know, spirit boxes and so forth, and I I I wouldn't even know, you know, as somebody that watches ghost shows what that even means.
7:22
SPEAKER_00: So when you guys are asking them, it I I don't even know if they would know what you're talking about.
7:27
SPEAKER_00: And then some people get kind of aggressive with it, you know.
7:30
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
7:30
SPEAKER_00: If you're not afraid, talk to me in this box or whatnot.
7:33
SPEAKER_00: And a big thing that I don't really care for is you go into these haunted houses, like at the seminary, I get that, you know, you kind of build up the rooms and stuff to how you imagine it, like Sarah's room, you know, and they start people donate and they drop off dolls and stuff like that.
7:51
SPEAKER_00: But to me, when you put demonic-looking dolls and propaganda into a house, it kind of takes away from the authenticity, you know.
7:59
SPEAKER_00: I mean, that's just the way I look at it, but I also get the point of maybe it's something they can talk through or move or but I'm not sure.
8:08
SPEAKER_03: I mean, I think that's why I like EVP so much.
8:10
SPEAKER_03: It's a recorder and it's just a red light.
8:13
SPEAKER_03: You know, you can talk into that red light.
8:15
SPEAKER_03: And usually I don't say that.
8:17
SPEAKER_03: I just try to have conversations with someone that's maybe they're not there.
8:22
SPEAKER_03: And the EVPs pick up a different, you know, we can't hear it, but the recorder can.
8:28
SPEAKER_03: And you listen to my podcast, we do get a lot of EVPs.
8:31
SPEAKER_03: Right.
8:32
SPEAKER_03: And so I think that's something instead of like the spirit box.
8:36
SPEAKER_03: Maybe they don't know what AMFM is, right?
8:39
SPEAKER_03: Or they use that energy.
8:41
SPEAKER_03: You know, you got dowsing rods and all that.
8:44
SPEAKER_03: But you know, the recorder is just recording, they don't know.
8:48
SPEAKER_03: They're trying to talk to you, but they don't have the strength to say those words out loud where you can hear them.
8:56
SPEAKER_03: And we go back and we'll be able to hear them.
8:58
SPEAKER_03: So that's why I'm an EVP junkie.
9:01
SPEAKER_03: I mean, I love EVPs.
9:02
SPEAKER_03: And that's probably my main thing I'll always use.
9:06
SPEAKER_03: I mean, you saw me at Madison.
9:07
SPEAKER_00: I mean, that's all I did.
9:09
SPEAKER_03: I didn't do Spirit Box, I didn't do SS Method, I didn't do dowsing rods.
9:14
SPEAKER_03: Like, I just carry recorder around everywhere.
9:17
SPEAKER_03: That's why like I barely do video.
9:19
SPEAKER_03: Not a big fan of video.
9:21
SPEAKER_03: Too much crap can so many people have pictures out there.
9:25
SPEAKER_03: So many people have videos of shadow.
9:28
SPEAKER_03: But you can't see behind what's actually creating that shadow.
9:31
SPEAKER_03: Is it cool?
9:32
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
9:33
SPEAKER_03: I think EVPs are a way to go.
9:36
SPEAKER_03: That's what I always do.
9:38
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and that was that was a big thing that I brought up to you when you know we've worked together for years, but I I never got into this until you had an opening to go into Madison.
9:47
SPEAKER_00: And a big thing that I can't stand when you watch these ghost huntings, and it's things we talked about before off the record, but I can't stand when people get crazy and they start saying they're hearing these crazy things, and then you play back the audio.
10:00
SPEAKER_00: And I mean, even the stuff that you guys play, I can barely hear what you guys are talking about because I'm too new.
10:06
SPEAKER_00: But when you start watching these ghost shows and without you know disclaimers on what the shows are out there, you know, every episode someone gets possessed or someone gets assaulted, or you know, they hear these crazy screams.
10:18
SPEAKER_00: But in reality, I like yours because you guys go out there and you guys put out information that could actually be legitimate.
10:24
SPEAKER_00: And like you've always mentioned, you want to run towards something so you can find out what's going on rather than run away from it, or you know.
10:32
SPEAKER_03: I mean, we're there to get answers.
10:33
SPEAKER_03: Right.
10:34
SPEAKER_03: That's all there is to it.
10:35
SPEAKER_03: I mean, you as a human, you're always gonna have that fight or flight factor.
10:40
SPEAKER_03: Right.
10:40
SPEAKER_03: I mean, that's that's all it is, and me, I'm always gonna run toward it.
10:45
SPEAKER_03: Not gonna lie, there's sometimes I maybe take a couple steps back.
10:49
SPEAKER_00: Right.
10:50
SPEAKER_00: Especially on the initial spook.
10:52
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
10:53
SPEAKER_03: But I was a sports player as a competitive player, like I take that two steps back, and I'm like, yeah, fuck you.
10:59
SPEAKER_03: Like, right.
11:00
SPEAKER_03: No, I'm going after you.
11:01
SPEAKER_03: Hell yeah.
11:01
SPEAKER_03: You know, that happened at Trans Allegheny when I saw that Shadow Man, the great apparition.
11:07
SPEAKER_00: Was that the thing that spooked Bird or something in a cell?
11:10
SPEAKER_03: Or no, it was actually I was I told a story before in the podcast, but we're in the hallway, and we're just we kept hearing noises down down the hallway, it was like 20 feet away.
11:19
SPEAKER_03: There's two rooms at the end, and I'm like, we kept hearing stuff, we kept looking.
11:24
SPEAKER_03: It was me, Bird, and Ashley.
11:27
SPEAKER_03: I looked over and this thing came out of the one room, and it was gray.
11:32
SPEAKER_03: I didn't like see clothes or anything.
11:34
SPEAKER_03: But you can actually tell it stopped and looked at me and just walked into the other room.
11:41
SPEAKER_03: I never had my stomach tightened up so much.
11:44
SPEAKER_03: But I was like, oh shit.
11:46
SPEAKER_03: I wanted to run out.
11:48
SPEAKER_03: And I was like, no, screw you, and that's why I ran toward it.
11:51
SPEAKER_03: Stupid, whatever, nothing happened to me.
11:54
SPEAKER_03: I'm still here, so right.
11:55
SPEAKER_03: But it was a cool experience.
11:57
SPEAKER_01: Right.
11:58
SPEAKER_03: Um, Bird and Ash did actually did not see it, but they felt it when we tried to go in there.
12:03
SPEAKER_03: So again, go toward stuff, try to find answers.
12:07
SPEAKER_03: That's why we do this.
12:08
SPEAKER_03: Right.
12:09
SPEAKER_03: Um, we have people in my group that were rather run.
12:16
SPEAKER_03: Not gonna mention names, Sarah.
12:19
SPEAKER_03: But she's getting better.
12:21
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'll tell you, I was actually really impressed because you know, we we joked a lot.
12:25
SPEAKER_00: You know, I used to work with her too, and we joked a lot going into the seminary, but she even there were a couple times when I didn't know what was going on, and I looked to her and I said, Why aren't they doing this, or why are they doing this?
12:37
SPEAKER_00: And she gave me a great answer on why, and she held her composure really well.
12:41
SPEAKER_00: I was actually really impressed.
12:42
SPEAKER_00: So I think she's getting used to it, and I think she's really getting over whatever that fear is, or at least coping with it well to be able to do a full investigation.
12:49
SPEAKER_03: I sh I mean she still has a huge fear, I think she respects it a little more.
12:54
SPEAKER_03: I was scared about her caught semi-solo because she's with Carly.
12:58
SPEAKER_03: Right.
12:59
SPEAKER_03: But Carly's never done anything like this.
13:01
SPEAKER_03: I don't think she watched ghost shows.
13:03
SPEAKER_03: What she wanted to do there would be for Sarah.
13:05
SPEAKER_03: And honestly, that's probably one of the best.
13:08
SPEAKER_03: Even watching TV, the questions she asked.
13:13
SPEAKER_03: One of the best investigations I've ever seen anybody do.
13:17
SPEAKER_03: Is when she was up in that attic.
13:18
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
13:19
SPEAKER_03: I mean, she took it, she took a personal experience, her personal life.
13:23
SPEAKER_03: Because she kept texting me, because we were down below, right?
13:26
SPEAKER_03: She kept texting me, what do I ask?
13:27
SPEAKER_03: What do I ask?
13:28
SPEAKER_03: And I didn't answer because I just want her to do it.
13:30
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
13:31
SPEAKER_03: And she took, like, you know, her being a female in a male dominant world, which that was, right, and asking those questions.
13:41
SPEAKER_03: And she did a great job and she got some good answers.
13:44
SPEAKER_03: Like, I had someone at work the other day, a new hire working overtime, came in a cast, and he's like, hey, he's like, you do that podcast?
13:55
SPEAKER_03: And I'm like, maybe.
13:57
SPEAKER_03: He's like, the one Craig told me about.
13:59
SPEAKER_03: Like, oh yeah, that's me.
14:01
SPEAKER_03: He's like, yeah, that's that Madison one.
14:04
SPEAKER_03: He's like, no.
14:06
SPEAKER_03: He turned it off after that one EVP where Sarah says, I did that.
14:13
SPEAKER_03: He's like, I turned it off, like, I can't even listen to it.
14:17
SPEAKER_00: So you played that like two or three times, and I tried to hear it, and I don't think I'm in tune to it yet, but I couldn't really hear that.
14:24
SPEAKER_03: It's probably one of my best EVPs ever.
14:26
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
14:26
SPEAKER_03: Um so when I listen to mostly my EVPs, I told people that I'll sit with earbuds in.
14:33
SPEAKER_03: And when you're listening to this podcast when we're doing evidence, we're headphones because it's a whole different experience.
14:39
SPEAKER_03: Right.
14:40
SPEAKER_03: But usually I'll be in my living room, lights off, and I'll just play it.
14:45
SPEAKER_03: Sometimes I'm playing on my phone because I don't I don't expect to hear anything.
14:50
SPEAKER_03: Did I hear that?
14:51
SPEAKER_03: I was like, holy shit.
14:52
SPEAKER_01: I got it.
14:53
SPEAKER_03: I got it.
14:54
unknown: Okay.
14:55
SPEAKER_03: And throughout Madison, talking about being at Madison, there wasn't much after that.
15:00
SPEAKER_03: After Sarah's, there were some EVPs, and we had some experiences.
15:05
SPEAKER_03: But overall, there wasn't much.
15:08
SPEAKER_03: So I'm glad she got to experience that.
15:11
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you mentioned something in you know the last podcast I was listening to, and uh it made a lot of sense that I've never really thought of was that it was around Halloween, so that place was getting a lot of attention, plus it's becoming a bigger, you know, investigation site.
15:27
SPEAKER_00: So I think you made a good point when you said maybe their energies are getting drained by the amount of people in and they're getting worn out and tired.
15:35
SPEAKER_00: So that made a good point on why maybe we didn't pull as much.
15:38
SPEAKER_00: Plus, I have to say, you know, there were so many of us in that building that there was so much movement through that building.
15:43
SPEAKER_00: I think it was hard to be able to gather as much as you could.
15:47
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I think that's a they had Madcon 7 there, which is a huge event.
15:51
SPEAKER_03: Um, getting bigger and bigger every year.
15:54
SPEAKER_03: Again, which is a great thing that Adam does for everybody.
15:59
SPEAKER_03: Makes a lot of donations.
16:01
SPEAKER_03: But with Madcon 7, whatever it was, like 2,000 people going through there.
16:07
SPEAKER_03: Then we did a week after, and we had 15 people there.
16:11
SPEAKER_03: It was a lot.
16:12
SPEAKER_03: I mean But in the end of it, why we started this group is to give people like you, you know, Ba, Ritt, Chelsea, an experience that you wouldn't have an opportunity to do anywhere else.
16:26
SPEAKER_00: No, absolutely.
16:27
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I went there when they when they filmed um Melodimention movie names or no copyright reasons, uh no no rights reserved, but um The Devil's Toy Box, I went there when they filmed that, and it was super cool because you know the the cast showed me around, I got to meet the characters and everything, and uh that was neat.
16:46
SPEAKER_00: But to actually go in and have that little bit of insight because they gave me a tour on the different floors and stuff, they made a comment that the second and third floor always seemed like it flip-flopped, and they they could they would forget what floor they were on.
16:58
SPEAKER_00: And uh after the investigation with you guys, I thought I had it down.
17:02
SPEAKER_00: I was like, no, I know that people said that, but at certain points, like I didn't even know till the end of the night where you know the prop, the devil's uh toy box even was until the very end of the night because I just got flip-flopped so many times between the second and third floor.
17:15
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you guys want you guys want the devil's toy box.
17:18
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, at the very end.
17:19
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so I didn't go there at all.
17:21
SPEAKER_03: Um, not a big fan of it.
17:23
SPEAKER_00: Like you said, it's a prop, so it's a prop.
17:25
SPEAKER_03: I mean, can something be there?
17:27
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
17:27
SPEAKER_03: I mean, we've had a good SS methods in there.
17:31
SPEAKER_03: But that's not the reason I wanted to go there last time.
17:34
SPEAKER_03: Like Sarah's room is just and everybody who's done Sarah's room will probably say the same thing, besides the sensitive people out there.
17:45
SPEAKER_03: There's no answers.
17:47
SPEAKER_03: I've been there seven times.
17:49
SPEAKER_03: And I spent a lot of time in Sarah's room.
17:52
SPEAKER_03: And Adam does some videos too, and he says, like, what is there a Sarah?
18:00
SPEAKER_03: Honestly, I don't think there is.
18:02
SPEAKER_03: I think Sarah's room is just uh guess urban legend.
18:05
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
18:07
SPEAKER_03: But you know, he like he talked in one of his videos that so many people go in there to try to find Sarah, try to get answers that there may be an old lady next door that's like just comes across like, hey, I'm Sarah, and that's where people get.
18:22
SPEAKER_01: Right.
18:22
SPEAKER_03: Like, I've never really got a definite answer if there's a Sarah.
18:26
SPEAKER_03: We've had some good action in there.
18:28
SPEAKER_03: We did that toward the end of the night.
18:29
SPEAKER_01: Right, yeah.
18:30
SPEAKER_03: But I mean, nothing really say that there is a Sarah.
18:35
SPEAKER_03: Like they say it's a little girl, they say it's a demonic energy, which nothing even close.
18:41
SPEAKER_03: I mean, if there's a demonic energy named Sarah, that probably times I investigated that room, I would have known as a demonic energy.
18:50
SPEAKER_03: And if it is, Sarah, if you're listening, try me out next time.
18:54
SPEAKER_03: I'm game.
18:55
SPEAKER_03: It's your boy Ryan.
18:56
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I'm game.
18:57
SPEAKER_03: Like, I'm cool for some scratches.
19:00
SPEAKER_03: Could it be, or it could be an old lady with dementia that thinks she's a young girl?
19:05
SPEAKER_03: No one knows.
19:06
SPEAKER_03: I don't think there's really much in there besides maybe a couple of spurs that jump in and out.
19:12
SPEAKER_03: That's it.
19:12
SPEAKER_03: Right.
19:13
SPEAKER_03: We're doing haunted bourbon tonight.
19:15
SPEAKER_03: Haunted bourbon, another bourbon night for our Kentucky friends.
19:20
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'll tell you the the two spots that really stood out to me.
19:25
SPEAKER_00: So nothing actually jumped out at me really that I I felt anything big.
19:30
SPEAKER_00: Um, the only place I felt awkward were two locations, and that was in the attic space at the very top.
19:37
SPEAKER_00: And then if you went to where uh I believe the um insane residents were psychiatric kept, all the way at the very end of the hallway on the left-hand side, there was a small room, and there were about three of us standing over there, and we could hear scratching on the walls.
19:54
SPEAKER_00: And you know, you hear scratching, you think, okay, you know, there's another group.
19:58
SPEAKER_00: There were like 12 groups running around that night.
20:00
SPEAKER_00: Someone's either underneath us or on the other side of the wall, and they're just doing an investigation, they're scratching, they're knocking, and uh Ritt went down to check underneath of us to see if he could pull up a sound.
20:11
SPEAKER_00: He came back up, and he's like, Oh, okay, I heard you guys knocking while you were down there, so I think that's what it was.
20:16
SPEAKER_00: And we were like, Rit, we weren't knocking, we were waiting for you to knock.
20:19
SPEAKER_00: And he was like, uh, he went back down to check it out again, and then we heard more noises when we all split up in the different rooms up there.
20:27
SPEAKER_00: So I think that room definitely has a feel to it.
20:30
SPEAKER_00: And then I had a second feel where we were in the Civil War section, and I think it was the second floor, and uh one of the rooms had a Ouija board sitting there, and then that's when I came back to you and I was like, Hey, there's a Ouija board up on the second floor.
20:43
SPEAKER_00: Did you know that?
20:44
SPEAKER_00: And you were like, uh.
20:46
SPEAKER_00: So those were the two rooms I got a little feel for, and I think Ba even got a feel for that Civil War room.
20:53
SPEAKER_00: That's funny because Baha went there a couple weeks after.
20:58
SPEAKER_03: Oh, did he really?
20:58
SPEAKER_03: He took his son.
20:59
SPEAKER_03: Good for him.
21:00
SPEAKER_03: His son's really big, like his young, I don't know his exact age, but you know, he went on Amazon about a little paranormal kit, and but they actually went to a flashlight tour there and they had a lot of action.
21:14
SPEAKER_00: Really?
21:14
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like well, good, then maybe that got him more into it because I know he he really enjoyed it, and when me and him and Rick and you were running around, it was kind of nice because you know, my thing was I didn't want anything fake, I wanted everything to be known.
21:28
SPEAKER_00: And you'll see a lot of these shows where every noise is paranormal.
21:32
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
21:32
SPEAKER_00: And every time that I had the equipment and my belly gurgled or something, or I you said don't be like bird and nose breathe or whatever.
21:40
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, nose breathing sucks.
21:41
SPEAKER_00: So every time I my belly gurgled or something, I looked at Rit and I went, that was my belly.
21:46
SPEAKER_03: So you did that in Sarah's room.
21:50
SPEAKER_03: I don't remember the exact D V P, but there was something beside your belly.
21:55
SPEAKER_00: Really?
21:55
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
21:56
SPEAKER_00: I heard you say that, but I couldn't I couldn't take it if it was maybe That you heard something from me in the room, or if it was a misspoke, or no, there was actually something else because Rid was so I met Red a couple of days after that, and he asked me, he's like, dude, that wasn't Reed's stomach.
22:13
SPEAKER_03: Like you have to go over the EVP, and I did.
22:16
SPEAKER_00: Now, was it was it Sarah's room, or was it the room that you went in the closet, and you were like, things felt a little weird when I came out of the closet here, which was the other side.
22:25
SPEAKER_00: Sarah's room.
22:26
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
22:26
SPEAKER_03: Because I remember you saying we're sitting on the bed and Rit was sitting in that chair, and Red's like, Did you hear that?
22:31
SPEAKER_03: You're like, Oh, that was my belly.
22:33
SPEAKER_00: Oh, okay.
22:34
SPEAKER_03: So, no, there was something there.
22:36
SPEAKER_03: No shit.
22:37
SPEAKER_03: So I don't I don't remember exactly what it was, but it's on the podcast.
22:42
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'll have to listen to it again, because I remember the podcast you said it.
22:46
SPEAKER_00: But I think I think it'll be big uh I think sometime soon we need to get a small group to go do another one there.
22:52
SPEAKER_00: Maybe next year, whatever you guys are planning.
22:55
SPEAKER_00: But just something small to move around in a non-energetic time frame.
22:59
SPEAKER_03: I I've been looking, trying to get that before the end of the year, just you know, time and work and all that fun stuff.
23:08
SPEAKER_03: But uh life.
23:09
SPEAKER_03: Um the biggest issue is it's cold.
23:14
SPEAKER_03: Right?
23:14
SPEAKER_03: Madison's not heated.
23:16
SPEAKER_03: Maybe a little bit, but it's not heated.
23:20
SPEAKER_03: But the first time I took before we were a group, I picked Madison because I really never got anything out of that.
23:28
SPEAKER_03: Sarah was scared, you know.
23:30
SPEAKER_03: Lane and Aaron are always freaked out.
23:33
SPEAKER_03: I mean, they're better now.
23:36
SPEAKER_03: So I'm like, let's do Madison's right down the street.
23:38
SPEAKER_03: It was cold out.
23:40
SPEAKER_03: I think it was like February or March.
23:42
SPEAKER_03: Probably February because it was like 20 degrees in there.
23:45
SPEAKER_03: It was active as shit.
23:47
SPEAKER_03: Like that's probably the most active besides Bel Air House.
23:51
SPEAKER_03: Do you think the temperature has something to do with it?
23:54
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
23:54
SPEAKER_03: That's why I want to do it again when it's cold.
23:57
SPEAKER_03: I want to find out.
23:59
SPEAKER_03: I mean, who knows?
24:01
SPEAKER_03: I mean, maybe temperature does have something to do with it.
24:03
SPEAKER_03: Or maybe it's just because we had Aaron, we had Lane, we had Sarah, that they were freaked out.
24:11
SPEAKER_03: Because everybody knows I'm a big I believe fear brings out some spirits, especially bad spirits.
24:17
SPEAKER_03: It's an interesting concept.
24:19
SPEAKER_03: So I think when you have someone that is scared, you know, as a spirit, you're like, yeah, let's go mess with these people.
24:26
SPEAKER_03: Like it's gonna be fun tonight.
24:28
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
24:28
SPEAKER_00: So I mean that's Do you think it makes them more powerful to where they can be physical, or do you think it's just uh a presence thing or a temperature change, or what do you think?
24:38
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
24:38
SPEAKER_03: I mean, I think the fear hole thing is, I mean, as I said, if you died, I talked to my neighbor about this, he had a lot of experiences when he was young.
24:47
SPEAKER_03: But anyways, he had a lot of experience paralysis, sleep paralysis.
24:52
SPEAKER_03: Um and he saw a lot of stuff when he was young, got choked a lot when he was trying to sleep.
24:58
SPEAKER_03: Oh wow, and he is scared shitless about this stuff.
25:02
SPEAKER_03: And I'm like, could it just be like your buddy?
25:06
SPEAKER_03: He's like, What?
25:07
SPEAKER_03: I'm like, dude, like listen, you're a goofball too, dude.
25:11
SPEAKER_03: Like, if you died and you can hop people, would you fuck with people?
25:15
SPEAKER_03: He's like, hell yeah.
25:16
SPEAKER_03: I'm like, okay, well think about it.
25:19
SPEAKER_01: Right.
25:20
SPEAKER_03: You know, not everybody thinks spirits are like just cut and dry.
25:24
SPEAKER_03: Like you have the lady in white that floats around that misses her kid, and yeah, that's all she cares about.
25:31
SPEAKER_03: But you know, human, we're human, like we like to have fun too.
25:34
SPEAKER_03: So if you're dead.
25:36
SPEAKER_00: I don't think there's one of us that wouldn't mess with bird.
25:39
SPEAKER_00: Oh, dude, I would bird.
25:42
SPEAKER_00: He would get two hours of sleep at night, maybe.
25:44
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
25:45
SPEAKER_03: I'll be dressed up as a plow.
25:47
SPEAKER_03: Love you, bird.
25:47
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
25:47
SPEAKER_03: I'll be dressed up as a plow.
25:51
SPEAKER_00: We all float in here, bird.
25:52
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
25:53
SPEAKER_03: You know, we all done that.
25:54
SPEAKER_03: Like if I die, you know, or you know, I thought about like when I was if I got sick and I knew I was gonna pass, you know, which would suck.
26:02
SPEAKER_03: But you know, being at work, I have a lot of friends, you know, there's hundreds of people there.
26:06
SPEAKER_03: Like I'd probably write a letter saying, hey, you know, this is my last day, you know, sorry, you know, stuff happens, life happens.
26:15
SPEAKER_03: But Bird, I'm gonna hunt the fuck out of you, you know.
26:19
SPEAKER_03: I'd I'd have to.
26:20
SPEAKER_00: I mean You have no choice.
26:22
SPEAKER_03: You have no choice.
26:22
SPEAKER_00: You really don't.
26:24
SPEAKER_03: I might just stay on this earth just to haunt Bird.
26:27
SPEAKER_03: It's noted, Bird.
26:28
SPEAKER_03: It's noted.
26:29
SPEAKER_03: It's noted.
26:30
SPEAKER_03: So when you hear that knock, Bert, 20, hopefully 40 years, when you hear that knock, it's me, dude.
26:37
SPEAKER_03: But the way you look, you'll be haunting me way before I haunt you.
26:41
SPEAKER_03: So no, I mean, but I mean, think about it.
26:47
SPEAKER_03: I mean, why does everybody think everything's cutting dry?
26:49
SPEAKER_00: Right.
26:50
SPEAKER_03: I mean, there has to be some goofball spirits out there.
26:54
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'd have fun.
26:55
SPEAKER_00: How could there not be?
26:56
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
26:56
SPEAKER_00: It's it's their personality when they left, right?
26:58
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
26:59
SPEAKER_00: And that's what a spirit is, right?
27:00
SPEAKER_00: Your internal spirit.
27:01
SPEAKER_00: So your energy.
27:02
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
27:03
SPEAKER_03: Everybody's so like, oh, this lady just walks around looking for a kid the whole time.
27:07
SPEAKER_03: Or this kid's just looking for its mom.
27:10
SPEAKER_03: Like, it's a kid.
27:13
SPEAKER_03: Wants to have fun, wants to play.
27:15
SPEAKER_00: And I think that's where like you see a lot in the movies where they exaggerate it, but it there has to be some kind of old storyline to it.
27:22
SPEAKER_00: But where even they talk about Sarah's room where it's potentially, you know, a demon representing a little girl.
27:28
SPEAKER_00: But you see in the movies all the time where it shows a child, but it's a demon actually puppeting a child.
27:33
SPEAKER_00: So definitely possibilities.
27:36
SPEAKER_00: Now, I don't I don't know from what I would what I experienced from my two times at that location, you know, once investigating, once just you know, doing a tour.
27:43
SPEAKER_00: I don't feel there's any demonic energies at Madison.
27:47
SPEAKER_00: But no, I mean not to shadow.
27:49
SPEAKER_00: I mean, there was a lot of bad things that happened there.
27:52
SPEAKER_00: I mean, you look into the history, it was nasty.
27:54
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it was nasty.
27:55
SPEAKER_03: That's what addicts, because mostly happened in addicts.
27:57
SPEAKER_00: Right.
27:58
SPEAKER_03: And, you know, you hear Sarah's like the little video I made of her and her investigation.
28:04
SPEAKER_03: I mean, there's a lot of bad stuff.
28:06
SPEAKER_03: And Project Fear went up there.
28:08
SPEAKER_03: We got some stuff that's it's sad.
28:11
SPEAKER_03: I mean, not gonna lie, like the stuff they did, and I talked about my one podcast, like we treated psychiatric psychiatric patients and you know, the poorhouse, right?
28:24
SPEAKER_03: They're guinea pigs, that's all they were.
28:26
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and it was a money thing, that's all it was.
28:29
SPEAKER_03: Um, trans-Allegheny lunatic asylum.
28:32
SPEAKER_03: A doctor came in and did lobotomies all the time.
28:35
SPEAKER_03: Right.
28:35
SPEAKER_03: Like whoever thought like driving a freaking screw into your head, pounding it with a hammer was a good idea.
28:42
SPEAKER_00: Well, it was revolutionary then, too.
28:44
SPEAKER_00: They were doing it everywhere.
28:45
SPEAKER_03: But never worked.
28:46
SPEAKER_03: Didn't work with the first person.
28:47
SPEAKER_00: Right.
28:48
SPEAKER_03: Why would we work?
28:49
SPEAKER_03: I mean, we were stupid back in the day.
28:51
SPEAKER_00: And I mean they did all that stuff during the world wars when they had, you know, prisoners of war, so it's how we get to where we are with modern medicine, even though nobody wants to talk about it.
29:00
SPEAKER_00: Things we won't talk about on this podcast, but but I mean, like, driving a spike in someone's eye, like, come on.
29:09
SPEAKER_03: If it didn't work the first thousand times, it's not gonna work thousand and one.
29:13
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
29:14
SPEAKER_03: But that was our belief, like they really thought it would do whatever it was supposed to do and make him sane, which no, they're insane for a reason.
29:24
SPEAKER_00: Uh besides Madison, I mean what else in Madison that they did uh, like you mentioned, we we went into me and Bert actually went, they have a sound chamber on the second floor.
29:34
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I didn't go in there.
29:35
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so we they found I found there was a sound chamber with a plaque in front of it on the second floor, and I asked Ryan what it was, and he said it was a prop a piece of prop that they added uh to the building, so it has no spiritual reasoning to it.
29:51
SPEAKER_00: But what it does is uh you set you go inside and you set you start it, and you sit inside of a room with two different um frequency sounds, and it's pitch black when you're in there.
30:02
SPEAKER_00: And after 15 minutes, I think the time frame is when you come out, you're supposed to be more sensitive to what's going on in the building.
30:08
SPEAKER_00: And I'll tell you, we sat in it for about I know we didn't do the whole thing, seven minutes, maybe ten minutes, and uh you know, it's long enough for me to sit in a room with Bird in the dark.
30:18
SPEAKER_00: So we went out and we didn't really catch, we didn't feel there was any difference.
30:21
SPEAKER_00: So I think it's just a prop.
30:23
SPEAKER_00: But that in the devil's toy box is just a prop.
30:25
SPEAKER_00: So if anybody's listening to this to get information for Madison, I don't want to stray you away from doing those things because they're fun, but they're not the historical haunting things for Madison.
30:38
SPEAKER_03: But with that, I mean it's a good idea, you know, trying to increase your senses.
30:43
SPEAKER_03: Right.
30:44
SPEAKER_03: I mean, it's a prop, but that's you know, the SS method is the same concept, like your headphones on blindfolded, so you use one sense.
30:54
SPEAKER_03: So it could work.
30:56
SPEAKER_03: Try it out, let me know.
30:57
SPEAKER_03: I didn't go in there.
30:59
SPEAKER_03: Um, I saw that they built that right before Mad Con 7.
31:05
SPEAKER_03: Um kind of excited.
31:07
SPEAKER_03: Hopefully, I have Mad Con 8 off.
31:09
SPEAKER_03: It'd be cool to go to see all those people.
31:12
SPEAKER_03: Um, so coming up, we are gonna be doing Ross House.
31:16
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'm pretty excited for that.
31:18
SPEAKER_03: So Ross House is in Bel Air, Ohio.
31:21
SPEAKER_03: As you know, it's my last podcast, not the last one, a few podcasts before we did Bel Air.
31:26
SPEAKER_03: I actually got three podcasts out of that.
31:29
SPEAKER_01: Wow.
31:30
SPEAKER_03: I mean, we did two, had a lot of evidence.
31:33
SPEAKER_03: We ended up doing two, then Erin had her recorder.
31:37
SPEAKER_03: I went over that, I'm like, we gotta do a third, because there's a lot of stuff.
31:42
SPEAKER_03: Um, if you ever get a chance to go to Bel Air House, do it.
31:45
SPEAKER_03: We'll let you know about Ross House coming up.
31:48
SPEAKER_03: Obviously, everybody knows I don't do any history of the place.
31:53
SPEAKER_03: First time when I go there, I don't get a walkthrough.
31:57
SPEAKER_03: I don't do anything.
31:59
SPEAKER_03: Because I don't want to be influenced by stories.
32:03
SPEAKER_03: So the first time we're gonna go there, we're gonna go in blind, like I like calling it.
32:09
SPEAKER_03: Do a couple solos right off the bat before anybody even walks in there.
32:13
SPEAKER_03: Erin and I are gonna do a solo.
32:14
SPEAKER_03: I gave her a choice, second floor or basement.
32:17
SPEAKER_03: She chose second floor as her choice, she's gonna have to live with it.
32:22
SPEAKER_03: Basement, I'm gonna do.
32:24
SPEAKER_03: And that's before Tegan, Reed, Chelsea, Craig even step foot in that house.
32:30
SPEAKER_03: We're gonna go in and do this in the dark and see how it goes.
32:35
SPEAKER_03: I mean, hopefully we get some good stuff.
32:37
SPEAKER_03: A lot of people get a lot of stuff out of Ross House.
32:40
SPEAKER_03: Um, I was asked, it was on Facebook, someone mentioned Bel Air, and I said, Yeah, you gotta do this.
32:47
SPEAKER_03: It's a cool place.
32:49
SPEAKER_03: Because they were talking about Ross House, and they were talking about is Ross House connected to Bel Air?
32:58
SPEAKER_03: It's only a mile away.
33:00
SPEAKER_03: Is it possible?
33:01
SPEAKER_03: They think the mimic, which I know is in Bel Air, can portal through to Ross House.
33:07
SPEAKER_00: Really?
33:08
SPEAKER_00: Like not like an underground railroad type thing, but like a portal dimension thing?
33:13
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
33:14
SPEAKER_03: Because supposedly Bel Air has seven portals.
33:17
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
33:18
SPEAKER_03: So with it being pretty much sorry, a run downtown um and a lot of history, yeah.
33:25
SPEAKER_03: Is it possible that the mimic can go back and forth?
33:28
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
33:29
SPEAKER_03: We're gonna find out.
33:30
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so that was a big thing for me, is you know, when you invited me to go do the Ross House, um, you guys mentioned it at the Madison Seminary, and I was kind of biting my tongue.
33:40
SPEAKER_00: I didn't want to invite myself, so I waited, and when you you messaged me, like, hey, do you want to go?
33:44
SPEAKER_00: I jumped all over it because I want to do as many as I can.
33:47
SPEAKER_00: And I'm kind of like you in the aspect of, you know, I've had a past with this stuff, so if it happens, I want to run towards it because I already know that it can hit me, so we'll see what it does.
33:58
SPEAKER_00: But I'm not afraid of it.
33:59
SPEAKER_00: But I didn't I wanted to go in like you do.
34:02
SPEAKER_00: So I wanted to go in.
34:02
SPEAKER_00: I haven't researched it.
34:03
SPEAKER_00: The most I did was I I distanced it.
34:05
SPEAKER_00: I think it's like two and a half hours from us, so it'll be a nice road trip.
34:09
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
34:09
SPEAKER_00: And uh, it seems like it's a small location because I believe it's just a home.
34:13
SPEAKER_03: So it's it's actually attached to an antiques door.
34:16
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
34:17
SPEAKER_03: So the second floor actually has a door from the I looked at some pictures.
34:22
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
34:23
SPEAKER_03: And I saw I think Q2 or whatever, Paranormal Group did it.
34:28
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
34:29
SPEAKER_03: Um there on Facebook.
34:31
SPEAKER_03: It she did like a walkthrough before.
34:33
SPEAKER_03: I think the second floor has a door until like again, I'm not sure, but it looks like the overload of the antiques.
34:41
SPEAKER_03: Stuff can carry into possession.
34:44
SPEAKER_00: Sure.
34:45
SPEAKER_03: The objects.
34:46
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
34:46
SPEAKER_03: And that's why I gave Aaron the choice.
34:48
SPEAKER_03: Like I saw pictures of the basement.
34:51
SPEAKER_03: I can tell you right now, Aaron wasn't walking down in that basement.
34:54
SPEAKER_03: No.
34:54
SPEAKER_00: No.
34:54
SPEAKER_00: Alright, just too much stuff.
34:56
SPEAKER_03: It looks like a dungeon.
34:57
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
34:58
SPEAKER_03: It's it's old.
34:59
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
34:59
SPEAKER_03: It's an old 120-year-old basement.
35:03
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
35:04
SPEAKER_03: But I have a feeling the second floor is gonna be a little more active in the basement.
35:08
SPEAKER_03: We'll find out.
35:09
SPEAKER_03: I mean, we're gonna do so.
35:10
SPEAKER_03: It's gonna be neat.
35:11
SPEAKER_03: We're gonna actually go Facebook Live, do this, do Ross House, do our solos.
35:19
SPEAKER_03: Then we're gonna do a podcast.
35:20
SPEAKER_03: It won't be a live podcast, you guys won't hear it after, but you'll get the right after feelings of Aaron and I.
35:29
SPEAKER_03: Then we'll do some other stuff and we'll do more podcasts.
35:32
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
35:33
SPEAKER_03: I think it'll be kind of the experiment.
35:35
SPEAKER_03: Um, someone asked me, you know, with it being connected, if we can do a podcast on Ross House too.
35:42
SPEAKER_03: So hopefully it's connected, and I am working on doing our big trip next year, like I talked about.
35:50
SPEAKER_03: I think I might add Ross House and Bel Air on the same night.
35:54
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and I'd you know, just say I'd be biting my tongue waiting for the invite for that one too.
35:59
SPEAKER_00: So if anybody in this group decides they don't want to make it to that.
36:03
SPEAKER_00: So read.
36:06
SPEAKER_03: So I you know, we're doing Ross House, and you know, I always like to get, you know, some people down there, so I finally text him, like, hey, you're interested in Rosshaus, his text, which I should bring it up.
36:19
SPEAKER_03: Was it like, I've been waiting for this text.
36:21
SPEAKER_03: This man has been You're not wrong.
36:25
SPEAKER_03: Like he's just sitting by his phone for three months waiting for this text.
36:28
SPEAKER_03: Three months, just watching my phone, waiting for that text to come through.
36:32
SPEAKER_03: He doesn't know it yet, but there's a reason why he's gonna Rashause.
36:35
SPEAKER_03: Oh, there's a reason?
36:36
SPEAKER_03: Yes.
36:36
SPEAKER_03: Oh, I like that.
36:37
SPEAKER_03: Not for Ross House itself, but for the group itself.
36:41
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
36:41
SPEAKER_03: Um surprise.
36:43
SPEAKER_03: It is a surprise, I'm not gonna tell you now.
36:44
SPEAKER_03: Oh, that's fine.
36:45
SPEAKER_03: I like a surprise.
36:46
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so you just have to wait and see what happens.
36:49
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
36:50
SPEAKER_00: I have to bring jerky, you told me, so I know that.
36:52
SPEAKER_00: Does beef jerky have anything to do with the surprise?
36:55
SPEAKER_00: Or it helps.
36:57
SPEAKER_00: It helps.
36:57
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
36:58
SPEAKER_00: What kind of jerky though?
36:59
SPEAKER_00: Noted.
37:00
SPEAKER_00: Uh I know you like the um the cheese-filled jerky.
37:05
SPEAKER_00: That's smoking.
37:06
SPEAKER_00: I know, but that's what you always brought in the cast, so yeah.
37:08
SPEAKER_00: Hillbilly jerky.
37:09
SPEAKER_00: Hillbilly, okay.
37:10
SPEAKER_00: I I know you said that, but I didn't know if there was a hillbilly jerky or if it was all the same, but you were just calling us hillbillies out there in Trumble.
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SPEAKER_00: Think of Craig.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh, okay.
37:19
SPEAKER_00: Fair jerky.
37:20
SPEAKER_00: Fair.
37:20
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
37:20
SPEAKER_00: I have to ride with Craig.
37:22
SPEAKER_00: I'll be riding with Craig down there.
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SPEAKER_00: You'll be riding back with me, though.
37:24
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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SPEAKER_00: We'll go fast on the way back.
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SPEAKER_00: Fair.
37:28
SPEAKER_00: I'm in the back in the fetal position from my surprise.
37:31
SPEAKER_00: We'll be riding back with Feaster.
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SPEAKER_03: Alright, well, you got the meet read.
37:37
SPEAKER_03: Um, you'll be hearing from again from Ross House.
37:40
SPEAKER_03: Then I'd like to thank you for listening to Trap Souls.
37:44
SPEAKER_03: Obviously, comment on Facebook.
37:48
SPEAKER_03: Follow us on Facebook, Trap Souls.
37:51
SPEAKER_03: You can follow us also on Nuclear Soul Seekers.
37:54
SPEAKER_03: That is our group.
37:56
SPEAKER_03: And you can always email me at Trap Souls, the number zero at gmail.com.
38:01
SPEAKER_03: Polo.
38:02
SPEAKER_00: Talk about your merch.
38:03
SPEAKER_00: Talk about your merch.
38:05
SPEAKER_03: We got merch.
38:06
SPEAKER_03: Ryan's got merch.
38:08
SPEAKER_03: If you want a shirt, hit me up.
38:12
SPEAKER_03: Also, for all the other groups out there that do listen, I need some group stickers because I'm going to put those up in my podcast room.
38:20
SPEAKER_03: We're going to start doing video podcasts.
38:23
SPEAKER_03: People want me to do video podcasts for some reason.
38:26
SPEAKER_03: I don't even have a face for radio.
38:28
SPEAKER_03: The face.
38:29
SPEAKER_03: But we're going to do video.
38:31
SPEAKER_00: The face behind the radio.
38:33
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
38:34
SPEAKER_03: Aaron always says, Oh, you should see Ryan's face.
38:36
SPEAKER_03: So people are like, Well, you should do a video podcast.
38:39
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, okay.
38:41
SPEAKER_03: No, we're going to start doing video podcasts, put that out there.
38:45
SPEAKER_03: So, you know, if you want to send a sticker to me, you know, drop me an email, I'll throw some merch at you.
38:53
SPEAKER_03: And I just want to get all the groups that are on Facebook.
38:57
SPEAKER_03: They're awesome.
38:59
SPEAKER_03: You know who you are.
39:00
SPEAKER_03: I always talk to you or respond to you.
39:04
SPEAKER_03: Throw me a sticker, I'll throw it up behind our little wall for podcasts, and we'll go from there.
39:10
SPEAKER_03: Again, thank you for listening to Trap Souls, another episode of Dead Space.
39:14
SPEAKER_03: As Aaron always says, stay spooky.