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RRR W/Rob - Memento Mori · The Lone Gunman Podcast : JFK Assassination

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Speaker 1: What Random research tramblings with Robin, digging through the details.
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Speaker 2: That's his job.
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Speaker 1: Some Dallas days and no reports, he breaks hit down
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Speaker 1: in friendly shows. Random research tramblings with Robin.
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Speaker 2: What's up, everybody? Welcome in to some random research ramblings
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Speaker 2: with Rob. I hope everybody's having a nice weekend. I
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Speaker 2: know I am hot off the heels of a fantastic
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Speaker 2: show with our friend bart Camp Friday night. Uh. Definitely
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Speaker 2: more to think about when it comes to the Helsinki passage,
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Speaker 2: so check that out if you haven't yet. And oh,
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Speaker 2: I'm in my feels a little bit and this might
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Speaker 2: be a little bit of a gloomy show, if you will,
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Speaker 2: But I feel like some things like this need to
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Speaker 2: be talked about every once in a while. Memento Maury. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: it's an old Latin saying basically means remember you're going
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Speaker 2: to die at some point. Maybe not that at some
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Speaker 2: point I added that, but remember you're gonna die. And
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Speaker 2: it's a good thing to keep in mind when going
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Speaker 2: about one's daily life activities. You know, it helps bring
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Speaker 2: some levity to certain situations that maybe sometimes we might
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Speaker 2: take ourselves a little too seriously for this life, and
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Speaker 2: we must remember, look, it's really not that serious. Life
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Speaker 2: will go on, things will happen, people will move on,
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Speaker 2: things will happen, Things will happen that we like, things
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Speaker 2: will happen that we don't like. But ultimately, we, me
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Speaker 2: and you are responsible for our own happiness and the
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Speaker 2: way we choose to live our life on a day
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Speaker 2: to day basis, whether or not you want to fill
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Speaker 2: that time doing something good for other people, whether you
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Speaker 2: want to fill that time doing things that are meaningful
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Speaker 2: and productive for yourself. You know, I know we all
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Speaker 2: have to clean the house. We all have to do laundry,
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Speaker 2: we all have to do the dishes, we all have
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Speaker 2: to cook. You know, we all have to mow the
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Speaker 2: yard unless we're rich and have gardeners and all of
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Speaker 2: that stuff. But I think sometimes we take ourselves a
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Speaker 2: little too seriously in this whole jfk assassination milieu lots
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Speaker 2: on if you will, but only because and I can
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Speaker 2: only speak for myself, it's about the passionssion, I'm passionate
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Speaker 2: about this subject, damn it, I am. But I also
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Speaker 2: at times think to myself, you know, you're not as good,
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Speaker 2: You're not as good of an analytical mind as a
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Speaker 2: lot of other people that have come before you. You're
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Speaker 2: not as good of an analytical mind as some of
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Speaker 2: the best that are out there alive today. I do
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Speaker 2: I think that sometimes, and I know that's not a
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Speaker 2: healthy thoughts, But just to contradict that thought for a moment,
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Speaker 2: and you think back on some of what we in
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Speaker 2: the conspire, the community considered to be greats. You know,
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Speaker 2: people like Mark Lane, people like Harold Wiseberg, people like
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Speaker 2: David Liften, people like Robert Grodin. You know the people
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Speaker 2: that I named that I could go on and on
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Speaker 2: and on and on and on, and just because I'm
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Speaker 2: leaving some off the list here does not mean their
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Speaker 2: contributions were any less than any other. I just simply
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Speaker 2: don't have time to name them all here. But you
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Speaker 2: get the point, okay, For a lot of these men
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Speaker 2: and women out there who have decided to dedicate their
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Speaker 2: life to researching and trying to figure out what happened
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Speaker 2: to our thirty fifth president On November twenty second nineteen
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Speaker 2: sixty three. Because we don't believe the official story. Then
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Speaker 2: I commend all of the all of them, all of you,
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Speaker 2: all of them, all of you for doing so. It
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Speaker 2: isn't it is important in the big scheme of things
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Speaker 2: for a better mindset and understanding about how the world
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Speaker 2: truly works. I think sometimes we get so distracted by
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Speaker 2: the bullshit and monotony of our daily lives and the
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Speaker 2: stuff that they spoon feed us through mainstream media narratives,
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Speaker 2: talking heads. The way we're bombarded by social media today,
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Speaker 2: it's kind of insane if you really stop to think
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Speaker 2: about it. And for people like me who are Gen
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Speaker 2: xers who remember what life was like before the Internet. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 2: people existed before the Internet, folks, we truly did you know?
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Speaker 2: I was born at a weird time in history. I
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Speaker 2: guess you could say that what we call the beginning
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Speaker 2: of the end. And these are the children of the
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Speaker 2: baby boomers, Yes, and I fit right along in that.
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Speaker 2: Born in the seventies, nineteen seventy and four to be exact.
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Speaker 2: You know, I remember going to see Star Wars in
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Speaker 2: the theater and Jaws in the theater, Indiana Jones in
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Speaker 2: the theater, et in the theater Return of the Jedi
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Speaker 2: Empire strects back all of that good stuff. Having to
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Speaker 2: actually go to a toy store to buy toys, you know,
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Speaker 2: you couldn't just order them online, if you will. But
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Speaker 2: you can mail order a gun in nineteen sixty three, apparently,
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Speaker 2: which is crazy. And then came the birth of the
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Speaker 2: personal computer. Now, computing systems have been around since the
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Speaker 2: fifties and but very simple, very large machines, very impractical
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Speaker 2: for one's personal use, if you will. But then in
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Speaker 2: the eighties we got personal computers, computer gaming systems. And
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Speaker 2: then in the nineties, of course, we got pagers, laptops,
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Speaker 2: home computers, the Internet. Ah, yes, the Internet. Boy did
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Speaker 2: that make did that? It was a game changer, I'm
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Speaker 2: not going to lie to you, A game changer when
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Speaker 2: it comes to being able to share information with anyone
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Speaker 2: in the world at any time for free, well except
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Speaker 2: for the cost of your dial up internet back then
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Speaker 2: whatever that was nine ninety five a month or something,
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Speaker 2: I think roughly, I don't know, but I digress again.
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Speaker 2: I ramble sometimes, so pardon me. But to get back
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Speaker 2: to my original train of thought here, you know, when
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Speaker 2: mentioning all the greats, the people that we consider great
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Speaker 2: minds of the case. They didn't solve it. They didn't
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Speaker 2: solve it, and if they did, they didn't get recognized
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Speaker 2: for it. It seems like a lot of the greats
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Speaker 2: always did something stupid to tarnish their legacy. Sometimes you
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Speaker 2: need to leave well enough alone, okay. And what I
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Speaker 2: mean by that is, you know, Mark Lane was one
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Speaker 2: of the first, okay, rust to judgment the book, being
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Speaker 2: involved in the case, putting himself in debates with Warren
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Speaker 2: Commission lawyers, offering to represent Oswald, you know, for the
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Speaker 2: Warren Commission. He was trying to set the record straight
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Speaker 2: from all the Warren Commission obfuscation and Orch's assery that
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Speaker 2: they were doing. It was a commendable thing. And look,
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Speaker 2: his book rushed the judgment, the film rushed the judgment.
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Speaker 2: Great things from a very early early researcher when it
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Speaker 2: comes to this case. But then here comes the seventies
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Speaker 2: and he gets himself entangled in some odd things like
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Speaker 2: Jonestown and oh look, here comes the eighties and the
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Speaker 2: whole liberty lobbies shit, the whole liberty lobby scandal and lawsuit.
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Speaker 2: And by being involved in these things, it kind of
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Speaker 2: tarnished his image a bit. It kind of gave him
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Speaker 2: a little less credibility, if you will. And look what
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Speaker 2: Harold Weisberg did for Foyer and requesting documents and getting
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Speaker 2: documents out of the government was amazing, amazing work. What
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Speaker 2: he was doing under the table and trying to network
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Speaker 2: and look into things is commendable. Sure. But he also
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Speaker 2: had very few allies in the JFK research community back
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Speaker 2: then because he found flaws in most of them and
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Speaker 2: wasn't afraid to speak about them. Now, if Harold Weisberg
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Speaker 2: wasn't such a dick, and if he maybe applied his
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Speaker 2: hoarding skills to his research skills and his people skills
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Speaker 2: a little bit, you know, maybe he could have been
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Speaker 2: even greater than what he was, you know. And uh,
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Speaker 2: you know David Lifton, you know, he started off a little,
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Speaker 2: a little kookie back in the sixties, but he stumbled
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Speaker 2: across some good information here and there, and then he
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Speaker 2: had some really out there, wacky goofy somebody's dressed up
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Speaker 2: like a tree in Dealey Plaza, you know, shooting the
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Speaker 2: president type of shit. But he was able to redeem
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Speaker 2: himself in the eighties with the book Best Evidence, with
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Speaker 2: the supporting documentary movie as well, Best Evidence David Lifton.
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Speaker 2: Lots of good stuff in there. Hard to refute when
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Speaker 2: you've got a lot of eyewitness testimony and a lot
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Speaker 2: of fokery around the medical evidence. Yeah, the problem with
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Speaker 2: mister Lyfton is he just didn't know when to quit.
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Speaker 2: And that's a bummer. That's a real bummer, you know.
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Speaker 2: And some of his interviews towards the end of his life,
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Speaker 2: we're a little out there claiming more crazy things, you know.
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Speaker 2: And you look at some of the folks that are
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Speaker 2: around today researching the case. And I'm not talking about
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Speaker 2: folks my age. I'm talking about boomers, baby boomers, folks
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Speaker 2: that are pushing in their mid seventies to eighties that
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Speaker 2: are still still heavily involved in this case. And most
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Speaker 2: of them have made good contributions throughout the years to
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Speaker 2: trying to find the truth about what happened to John F. Kennedy.
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Speaker 2: Folks like to focus on the why instead of the who.
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Speaker 2: I'm more concerned about the who than the why. But
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Speaker 2: I understand that if you can figure out one, then
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Speaker 2: you get the other. Allegedly. The only problem with those
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Speaker 2: theories are that there was so many, so many possible
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Speaker 2: enemies to choose from. It seems like JFK had managed
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Speaker 2: to piss off the entire world uh in three short years.
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Speaker 2: But you know, when you're a person making difficult decisions
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Speaker 2: and you're putting in very precarious places to make such decisions,
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Speaker 2: not always going to be mister popular with folks. The
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Speaker 2: problem I run into and I'm not going to mention
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Speaker 2: any names except for the ones that have already passed,
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Speaker 2: but just out of respect for the ones that are
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Speaker 2: still here, I will say this. You know, we make
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Speaker 2: fun on the show at some people because it's just
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Speaker 2: comical to me. Sometimes can just want to hang on
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Speaker 2: so badly because at one time they contributed something, something
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Speaker 2: meaningful to the case. Yet in the past twenty or
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Speaker 2: thirty years ever since they did not a You can
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Speaker 2: only rest on your laurels for so long, okay. And look,
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Speaker 2: I've got bookshelves after bookshelves after bookshelves of books written
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Speaker 2: by the greats and some not so greats. There's a
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Speaker 2: lot of dead people sitting on my dusty bookshelves, Okay,
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Speaker 2: And that's the legacy they left behind. A dusty, old
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Speaker 2: fucking book sitting on my bookshelf that I probably read
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Speaker 2: ten years ago, twenty years ago. There might be one
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Speaker 2: or two decent nuggets in one. Okay, nothing you couldn't
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Speaker 2: find today by a simple Google search or a simple
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Speaker 2: document search. And it's sad. It's sad to me. You know,
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Speaker 2: when you talk about the legacy of things past, I mean,
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Speaker 2: look no further than Dallas and what it's become. I mean,
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Speaker 2: this whole conference thing is a joke. No more press releases,
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Speaker 2: no more mainstream news coverage, no more local news coverage
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Speaker 2: of great grand revelations. You know. Like I tried to
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Speaker 2: explain to Joe, just so he can understand how irrelevant
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Speaker 2: conferences have become in twenty twenty six, I said, Joe,
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Speaker 2: you do realize, okay, that we do the equivalent of
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Speaker 2: four conference presentations a week here on this show. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: when you break it down, we do two live shows
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Speaker 2: at least two hours long apiece. At a conference, you're
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Speaker 2: lucky to get a half hour forty five minutes an
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Speaker 2: hour if you're lucky right on a subject. And I'd
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Speaker 2: like to think that this show is not just rehashing
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Speaker 2: the same old, boring bullshit that you've all heard for
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Speaker 2: years and years and years and years and years, and
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Speaker 2: I realize they can't all be bangers. But one of
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Speaker 2: the core parts of this show is to try to
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Speaker 2: bring you new information, new documents, and new insights into
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Speaker 2: these documents and revelations, a different way to think about
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Speaker 2: things sometimes if you will, because look, there's only so
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Speaker 2: much out there. Short of another Malcolm Blunt camping out
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Speaker 2: of the archives and just copying shit that is not
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Speaker 2: online and then putting it online for everybody to see,
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Speaker 2: will we get anything new Because you can declassify all
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Speaker 2: the documents you want, but if Nara never puts them
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Speaker 2: online for us to see, well then we're fucked. And
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Speaker 2: you know, Joe can tell you from his most recent
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Speaker 2: trip to NAR that they do not make it easy
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Speaker 2: for you to do research there, hence the problem that
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Speaker 2: we're in. But yeah, when you stop and think about it,
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Speaker 2: I told Joe, I said, you know, we do the
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Speaker 2: equivalent of four conference presentations a week, that sixteen conference
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Speaker 2: presentations a month, That is over roughly between one hundred
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Speaker 2: and seventy and one hundred and eighty conference presentations a year.
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Speaker 2: When you have some people working all year to do
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Speaker 2: one thirty or forty five minute conference presentation. I mean,
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Speaker 2: just think about that for a second. I think if
23:22
Speaker 2: you break down any hour of our show except you know,
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Speaker 2: take away the beginning, you know, sometimes in the end,
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Speaker 2: sometimes when we caffuse around a little bit. But the meat,
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Speaker 2: the actual meat of our shows, where we actually get
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Speaker 2: into something interesting, could be a conference presentation. I mean,
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Speaker 2: if you look at some of the subjects from last
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Speaker 2: year and the year before that, Uh, what we do
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Speaker 2: here on the Loncoming Podcast should be blowing everybody socks off.
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Speaker 2: And look, I look, I love the youth of today
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Speaker 2: and I'm not knocking anybody, but seriously, there there's some
24:28
Speaker 2: never mind, I'm not even gonna get into it because
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Speaker 2: I'll just say this, when it comes to a conference presentation, okay,
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Speaker 2: it should be about something that we don't already know.
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Speaker 2: And the best example of this that I can tell
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Speaker 2: you from most recent memory, the only person that I've
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Speaker 2: seen do it is John Newman bringing out his Antonio
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Speaker 2: Vessiana things. Now, his process sucks, okay, his skills at
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Speaker 2: his presentation skills suck, but and his people skills. He's
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Speaker 2: a dick, but his work speaks for itself. You can't
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Speaker 2: argue with the documents. That's something that I've always said
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Speaker 2: here on the show. You cannot argue with the documents.
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Speaker 2: And this year the presence in Dallas has been reduced
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Speaker 2: to one conference. I don't know what the hell the
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Speaker 2: answer is doing. I know there were some issues there
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Speaker 2: last year and since then and some things have had
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Speaker 2: happened and it's unfortunate, But I don't don't know what
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Speaker 2: the future of Lancer is at this point. And that's
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Speaker 2: fine because this whole thing needs to be reconfigured anyway.
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Speaker 2: But this year you have the presence of one conference
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Speaker 2: in Dallas, and they can call it whatever they want.
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Speaker 2: They can call it the JFK Historical Society or whatever
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Speaker 2: they call it. I don't know what they call it,
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Speaker 2: but it is and always will be Judy con Judith
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Speaker 2: very Baker. Yeah. Yeah, despite get putting a different dress
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Speaker 2: on it, a little make, it's still very much the
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Speaker 2: Cuckoo Conference. Yes, as long as you let that crazy
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Speaker 2: bitch speak there, you will always be known as the
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Speaker 2: Cuckoo Conference. And I believe JFK Conference is LLC is
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Speaker 2: Judas Baker's copyright, and y'all can, like I said, y'all
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Speaker 2: can put lipstick on a pig. But I'm gonna call
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Speaker 2: it for what it is. It is what it is.
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Speaker 2: And for those of you out there who choose to
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Speaker 2: speak at these conferences that are asked and choose to
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Speaker 2: say yes, like why you would say yes, I don't know.
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Speaker 2: By saying yes, you're actually discrediting yourself because you are
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Speaker 2: aligning yourself with frauds in the JFK community. At least
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Speaker 2: to me, if you're on the same bill, okay as
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Speaker 2: people like Tosh Plummey and Judy Baker and James Files
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Speaker 2: and whoever else they want to roll out in a wheelchair,
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Speaker 2: you are doing yourself a disservice if you want to
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Speaker 2: be taken seriously as a JFK assassination researcher. Doesn't matter
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Speaker 2: if you have something great to present, I automatically disqualify
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Speaker 2: you from hearing anything you have to say because of
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Speaker 2: who you associate yourself with in this community. I'm sorry,
28:51
Speaker 2: but it is what it is. It is what it is.
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Speaker 2: I don't know if it's an ego thing with some
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Speaker 2: of these people. You know, anybody can write a book
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Speaker 2: these days. Anybody can self publish a book on Amazon
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Speaker 2: these days. You're nobody special. Okay again, I orally write
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Speaker 2: a book every week, fifty books a year, and I
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Speaker 2: pack a lot more information in these oral books than
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Speaker 2: it's in a written book. You know, this is a
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Speaker 2: fantastic medium because I can get on here and I
29:44
Speaker 2: can say whatever I want. I can show you documents,
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Speaker 2: I can show you pictures, I can give you analysis,
29:56
Speaker 2: and you can consume it for free. You might have
29:59
Speaker 2: to watch a couple yes, I know, I know, but
30:03
Speaker 2: even if this show wasn't monetized, you two would be
30:08
Speaker 2: putting ads in front of you, in front of everything anyway.
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Speaker 2: And then they get the money, and they still get
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Speaker 2: some of the money. Okay, they're just being very gracious
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Speaker 2: to share with the content creators a certain percentage of
30:23
Speaker 2: said ad profits, which is fine. It's fine. Again. People
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Speaker 2: always say, well, we don't write jfkbooks to get rich. Yeah, no, shit, Okay,
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Speaker 2: Well I'm not doing this to get rich, Okay. I
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Speaker 2: simply want to talk a little bit about legacy. You know.
30:51
Speaker 2: Keanu Reeves was once asked what do you think happens
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Speaker 2: after you die? And instead of getting into some kind
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Speaker 2: of deep religious or political angle or esoteric angle, he's
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Speaker 2: been said very simply. I think the people that love
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Speaker 2: you will miss you a lot. And that's what it
31:21
Speaker 2: all boils down to, folks. How many times a day
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Speaker 2: do you think about Mark Lane? How many times a
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Speaker 2: day do you think about Harold Wiseberg? How many times
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Speaker 2: a day do you think about Marilyn Monroe, Joe Dimasio,
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Speaker 2: I mean the Muhammad Ali. How many times do you
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Speaker 2: think about these great important, the most some of the
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Speaker 2: most well known stars ever born, musicians, the great music
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Speaker 2: of that have ever been the greatest orators. How often
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Speaker 2: do you think about these people every day? You don't.
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Speaker 2: It's only when we get occasionally reminded of them that
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Speaker 2: we pay them any mind at all. And that is
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Speaker 2: why I am going to keep talking about the JFK assassination.
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Speaker 2: Because the minute we stopped talking about it and meeting
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Speaker 2: behind closed doors in exclusive little clubs to talk amongst ourselves,
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Speaker 2: that's the moment that everybody forgets all about it. I mean,
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Speaker 2: look no further. James Douglas came out with a book
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Speaker 2: that was supposedly very good for the time, you know,
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Speaker 2: JFK and The Unspeakable, and he just came out with
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Speaker 2: another book, and you know what, nobody's talking about it.
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Speaker 2: Nothing great in it. It's like, wow, Wow, you fell
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Speaker 2: off that much. You fell off that much. Damn that's crucial.
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Speaker 2: But again he got away from the horse that won
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Speaker 2: him to race, and that's fine. I'm sure it did. Okay,
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Speaker 2: not great. Josiah Thompson one another early guy, Six Seconds
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Speaker 2: in Dallas. Fantastic early researcher. Fantastic book, raised some very
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Speaker 2: good questions. Very analytical released a book a couple of
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Speaker 2: years ago called Last Second in Dallas. Where's the fanfare?
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Speaker 2: Where's the revelations other than the fact that you finally
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Speaker 2: admitted that you got it wrong in nineteen sixty six
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Speaker 2: and you were setting the record right now, which is
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Speaker 2: what I don't know. And I have his book. It
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Speaker 2: is sitting over there on my bookshelf. Yeah, Mark Lane again,
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Speaker 2: rush to judgment, plausible denial. Last word? What was Mark
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Speaker 2: Lane's last word? Folks? You tell me what Mark Lane's
34:52
Speaker 2: last word was? Oh? Fuck? I don't know. You know,
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Speaker 2: you think about folks that are around today that have
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Speaker 2: done made really great contributions to things, And I do know.
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Speaker 2: It's the secret Boomer cabal that meets behind closed doors
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Speaker 2: on private Zoom calls and private email chains to discuss
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Speaker 2: among themselves things that would make you chuckle today, things
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Speaker 2: that would make you chuckle, you know, like I can't
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Speaker 2: believe that this guy would have done this great piece
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Speaker 2: of research and then all of a sudden be worried
35:50
Speaker 2: about the placement of vehicles in the motorcade, Like what
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Speaker 2: you're really going from that to that? And this is
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Speaker 2: supposedly one of the greatest analytical minds of the case
36:16
Speaker 2: when it comes to the CIA, the structure of the CIA,
36:21
Speaker 2: the flow of information in the government legal matters, that
36:26
Speaker 2: you go from a brilliant two brilliant pieces as a
36:30
Speaker 2: matter of fact, to I wonder why they moved the
36:35
Speaker 2: press car in this Dallas motorcy? Was it a conspiracy? Like?
36:43
Speaker 2: What are we doing here, folks? And I know everything
36:47
Speaker 2: old is new again? I get it. I see it
36:51
Speaker 2: all the time in Facebook groups. It makes me roll
36:54
Speaker 2: my eyes heavily into the back of my skull on
37:01
Speaker 2: a daily basis. But you're never going to be able
37:08
Speaker 2: to reach everybody, and everybody who thinks differently than you
37:17
Speaker 2: is not going to like you. And I get that.
37:24
Speaker 2: We all have our own various personal biases. When it
37:27
Speaker 2: comes to this thing. We're all in different places in
37:34
Speaker 2: our research journeys, you know, And I've sat on here before,
37:44
Speaker 2: you know, been looking at this case for thirty five years,
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Speaker 2: heavily conspiracy oriented, heavily, heavily a believer in the fact
37:56
Speaker 2: that Oswald was really a good guy, possibly a great American,
38:08
Speaker 2: possibly working for our government undercover, doing things, being sheep dipped,
38:19
Speaker 2: pretending to be something he's not when the whole time, well,
38:23
Speaker 2: maybe maybe this dude is who he says he is.
38:33
Speaker 2: And then I think to myself, oh shit, man, am
38:35
Speaker 2: I becoming a fucking lon nutter? No I'm not. But
38:43
Speaker 2: even if we can agree that based on the available
38:50
Speaker 2: documentation that's out there, and sure, you might run into
38:53
Speaker 2: some things where you might think, well, this is this
38:55
Speaker 2: is odd. Why does this guy say that he's doing that?
38:59
Speaker 2: And why does this guy say that he's doing this?
39:01
Speaker 2: And why is he doing this? And why is he
39:03
Speaker 2: doing that? And we may not have all the answers.
39:09
Speaker 2: I mean, this case has been so convoluted and skeffusified
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Speaker 2: throughout the years that we'll probably never know the truth.
39:22
Speaker 2: And as much as people don't want to hear it,
39:25
Speaker 2: you have to understand We're sixty three years on now
39:30
Speaker 2: and we still don't have a consensus view of the assassination,
39:37
Speaker 2: who did it, why they did it. Other than the
39:41
Speaker 2: lone nutters, they have their answer. They know who did it,
39:47
Speaker 2: they think they know why he did it. Look no further,
39:51
Speaker 2: nothing to see here, folks. End of discussion. But for me,
39:58
Speaker 2: that's not the end of the discussion. Even if Oswald
40:03
Speaker 2: was what he said he was and who he portrayed
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Speaker 2: himself to be, it does not preclude a conspiracy to
40:16
Speaker 2: set him up to become the patsy. And as I'm
40:24
Speaker 2: ever ever inching my way towards being comfortable with an
40:31
Speaker 2: understanding of what I believe could have possibly taken place,
40:42
Speaker 2: then only will I rest on my laurels until I'm
40:46
Speaker 2: disproven off that theory. The one thing that you must
40:50
Speaker 2: be able to do in this community to have longevity,
40:54
Speaker 2: to be taken seriously, is to be able to understand
41:01
Speaker 2: when you got it wrong, to acknowledge the fact that
41:07
Speaker 2: maybe you got it wrong, and to be willing enough
41:12
Speaker 2: to look at new evidence that proves that you got
41:15
Speaker 2: it wrong, or else you're going to be a sad,
41:21
Speaker 2: sorry sack, still holding on to a thirty year old
41:27
Speaker 2: theory that's been debunked. And you can be the old
41:31
Speaker 2: man shallow get to sea and shaking your fist, and
41:36
Speaker 2: you look around and nobody is there to hear you,
41:38
Speaker 2: but a billion grains of sand under your feet. And
41:47
Speaker 2: I don't do this because I want to be remembered, No,
41:51
Speaker 2: it's not it at all. I do this because I
41:58
Speaker 2: believe that we all deserve the truth of what happened
42:03
Speaker 2: that day. And I don't think we were told it. Okay,
42:09
Speaker 2: I don't think we were told it. And maybe they
42:12
Speaker 2: thought they had a good reason for not telling us
42:14
Speaker 2: at the time. That they being the government, they being
42:20
Speaker 2: government organizations, they have a lot of responsibility when it
42:27
Speaker 2: comes to governing millions and millions and millions of people
42:36
Speaker 2: and keeping us all in line and keeping us fat
42:40
Speaker 2: and happy and keeping us occupied with bread and circuses.
42:49
Speaker 2: When it comes to the actual truth about something and
42:54
Speaker 2: about what our government is doing, a lot of them
42:57
Speaker 2: think it better to just keep it hidden from us.
43:02
Speaker 2: You don't need to know that, you know, disclosing the
43:05
Speaker 2: fact that there's aliens among us and we've been visited
43:07
Speaker 2: by UFOs for the past seventy years. Oh my god,
43:12
Speaker 2: that would just throw everybody into an upheaval. You know,
43:16
Speaker 2: religion would fall apart. People would be panicking in the streets.
43:22
Speaker 2: Really really, But you can make billions and billions of
43:29
Speaker 2: dollars off of making movies and video games and writing
43:33
Speaker 2: books about aliens. Right, the possibility that there's aliens, the
43:41
Speaker 2: possibility that there's big foots out there, the possibility that
43:48
Speaker 2: there is magic in this world, things beyond our understanding,
43:56
Speaker 2: Things the government would rather keep hidden because we as
43:59
Speaker 2: a people wouldn't be able to handle it. We would
44:05
Speaker 2: just lose our minds, well, would we? Most people are
44:15
Speaker 2: just worried about paying their rent, paying their mortgage, buying
44:21
Speaker 2: groceries this week, being able to put gas in their
44:23
Speaker 2: car to get to work, being able to keep a job,
44:27
Speaker 2: being able to have a job. That's what it all
44:36
Speaker 2: boils down to. You know, I am more than this,
44:43
Speaker 2: although I was thinking earlier today that you know, it's crazy,
44:53
Speaker 2: you know when you think about just for shits and giggles,
44:57
Speaker 2: and I'm not comparing myself to this man, except maybe
44:59
Speaker 2: from the waist down. Elvis Presley, for example, right, great Americans,
45:07
Speaker 2: served his country, groundbreaking musical artist, probably stole some of
45:15
Speaker 2: his stick from the Black People and Rhythm and Blues,
45:25
Speaker 2: but one of the most famous people ever in this world,
45:30
Speaker 2: the king of rock and roll, Elvis Presley and his
45:34
Speaker 2: contribution to music, film and just being a good looking dude.
45:41
Speaker 2: I mean, but how many times do you think about
45:48
Speaker 2: Elvis Presley on a daily basis unless you're a super fan,
45:52
Speaker 2: like I have a superfan aunt who there's literally shit
45:57
Speaker 2: in her living room, like Elvis Presley, lamps, clock, you know,
46:00
Speaker 2: with dolls, whatever. Unless you're looking at something like that
46:04
Speaker 2: every day in your home, how often do you think
46:07
Speaker 2: about Elvis Presley? Hardly ever, hardly ever. And when people
46:15
Speaker 2: are looking into this case ten twenty thirty years from now,
46:18
Speaker 2: how often well they think about me. I've never written
46:23
Speaker 2: a book. They're probably not gonna know what a book
46:26
Speaker 2: is in thirty years, right, I'm guessing you know, it's
46:31
Speaker 2: gonna be like the kids nowadays, you know, collecting vinyl
46:34
Speaker 2: like these are cool. It's it's retro man to actually
46:38
Speaker 2: have a physical book like what is this? What is
46:41
Speaker 2: this thing with paper and words on it? Like you know,
46:47
Speaker 2: who knows? By then they can just you know, plug
46:50
Speaker 2: their USB finger into the computer and download, you know,
46:55
Speaker 2: a PDF file of a book and okay, I got all.
47:03
Speaker 2: I'm not even joking. Who knows what's on the horizon
47:07
Speaker 2: for us? And God help our children and grandchildren. But
47:14
Speaker 2: I digress. You know, does it make me feel a
47:19
Speaker 2: little better that if, by some weird chance, my kids
47:27
Speaker 2: or grandkids would want to see what old Rob was
47:30
Speaker 2: like back in the day, they can always come on
47:35
Speaker 2: YouTube as long as YouTube's around and cue up some
47:41
Speaker 2: old longum and podcast episodes and see me for what
47:46
Speaker 2: I am, See my passions, Hear me talking, Hear me laugh,
47:52
Speaker 2: hear me make jokes, Hear how serious I was about
47:58
Speaker 2: this subject and my passion for it, and maybe just
48:03
Speaker 2: maybe smile memento mori. Folks, Remember, we're all gonna die,
48:20
Speaker 2: So what are you gonna do with your time? Just
48:25
Speaker 2: saying anyway is it for me? Thanks for hanging out
48:30
Speaker 2: for some random research ramblings with Rob. Until next time, folks,
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Speaker 2: we'll see you. Peace and the Reasons
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