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- 0:49here tonight. Dean Ryan joins night writing
- 0:54passenger seat with me. Because I start hitchhiking on
- 0:58the road, then it is the wonderful Endeavor.
- 1:00So, pleasant Jenna, how are you doing?
- 1:02Jenna and well, thank you. How are you?
- 1:07I'm no, I'm good. I'm pleasantly pleasantly.
- 1:11Well, I'm swell as well. Yeah.
- 1:15Well, this is late night, thoughts.
- 1:18And if you're new to this podcast, I'll come greetings,
- 1:25this is a show where we talk about everything and nothing at
- 1:30all. And then the directions and the
- 1:34pathways to The next chapter or never written in fine detail
- 1:39printer otherwise but sometimes we do have guests on and tonight
- 1:44we have someone special Jenna. You'd be surprised.
- 1:49Yeah in town. Okay.
- 1:51Well since you asked and because I was probing for a question, we
- 1:59have a given author on tonight and his name is John Johnson and
- 2:04he's going to be joining in his new book, that you actually took
- 2:09a took a glance in a Rita, don't you?
- 2:13It did I, did I read the manuscript?
- 2:17Yes. Yes.
- 2:18So we're going to get into it and the title of the book pimps
- 2:23prostitutes in tricks in actually joining us right now.
- 2:27John Jones, welcome to late night, thoughts.
- 2:30Are you doing good? Good, thanks for having me.
- 2:34No, thanks for. Thanks for coming on.
- 2:36I know we've been trying to schedule this for quite some
- 2:40time and it's just been a just one thing after another, you
- 2:44know, in the natural right now, as you can imagine.
- 2:47This year is the busy season for everybody.
- 2:50A media. Oh wow.
- 2:54You know I can't even play it. I can't even plan my tomorrows,
- 2:58you know, right. It's so hard.
- 3:01Just, the world is show changing but it was you have a new book
- 3:05which we're going to get into in a little while here.
- 3:08But you're joined tonight by myself, of course.
- 3:13But Jen, who's gonna be my co-pilot in case I passed out.
- 3:17Want to crash the plane is enter if you were a pilot you.
- 3:22So that's your copilot. They must do like pilot jokes
- 3:25the these guys. It Fly.
- 3:26Don't you think so? They're only they get.
- 3:29Yeah, it's just them to in the cabin pressure.
- 3:36Yeah, cuz cuz you know what? Because if I heard that passing
- 3:39the cockpit I'm blacking out, you know.
- 3:52It's like if a dentist said to you, he has Tourette's and he's
- 3:54like, working on your mouth with the, you know, the scalp, right?
- 3:58But anyways, that John Johnson is a actually John.
- 4:07It's very interesting how we met, right?
- 4:10We go, we have some history and you can explain Splendor Jonah
- 4:16and the audience how that all came about, because it's a
- 4:19fascinating Journey when you, when you break it all down.
- 4:22Well, we that right? When you started to go, Yeah,
- 4:28and I think we're just like looking for some content and I
- 4:35happen to be listening to you and I am really, you know,
- 4:41interesting topics that you were going over.
- 4:43And I thought I could add a little bit to it because I was
- 4:48gift, came out of federal prison from The Pimps prostitutes and
- 4:52tricks but they ask. Oh and I was in prison with pink
- 4:57dick, who is Tim Allen from Home Improvement and give me Baker
- 5:05and a host of other people. And when we talk, we were just
- 5:10beginning your journey with real deal media.
- 5:13And I just went through your of old thing with you from the
- 5:18beginning until now, and we've talked along the way.
- 5:24Well, you were in prison with Tim Allen.
- 5:29Yeah isn't real. Name is Kim dick?
- 5:31No. Yep.
- 5:33Does that give him dick and John Johnson.
- 5:37I love it. Wait a minute.
- 5:41We have to harp on this because you know this really begs the
- 5:47topic of how many people in the world have the last name you
- 5:52know dick or is It Richard and he just shortened it for dick.
- 5:56You know, I don't know. Everybody just called him.
- 5:59Wow. Tim really funny hair here.
- 6:04Was it, was he a nice guy? Cuz this whole time you were
- 6:06here me this. I thought you were just calling
- 6:08him. You know, like we do know.
- 6:12He's actually a really nice guy. Yeah, okay.
- 6:16Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he is, I used to love, I
- 6:18show. Really fine.
- 6:21You know, is he still with us, or am I having like the Mandela
- 6:26effect? He's past year.
- 6:33I mean okay. That's a no yeah, no.
- 6:39He's not passed. No, he's not passed.
- 6:41I was joking. Yeah.
- 6:43It's the Mandela effect. Yeah.
- 6:45That's what I'm saying. You know why you're thinking of
- 6:50Your thing a Bill Paxton who yeah people can who people then
- 6:54confused with Bill Pullman, who then people confused with Tim
- 6:59Allen. Hi yeah I got to Google this.
- 7:06Well, what was so you what was he in jail for?
- 7:10Do you remember John you, do you want to talk about what you're
- 7:12in jail for? I'll tell you know, not year, if
- 7:14you tell me yours John, I meant Tim Allen.
- 7:17I'm dick. Okay.
- 7:18Well, either or you could tell It's a boy.
- 7:23I don't know too much details and I don't really want to say
- 7:27too much about him. I think it has something to do
- 7:32with drugs. Yeah, I remember the remember
- 7:36his photo like the mug shot. Yeah.
- 7:39Yeah, I mean, he's clean himself up and sure yeah.
- 7:43What and what an amazing job he's done and really good.
- 7:46You know, he was one of those like Roseanne types, he was just
- 7:50kind of that last really Americana organic Just like a
- 7:56quality TV show, you know? Yeah, yeah.
- 8:01I mean it wasn't going for the, the low-hanging fruits.
- 8:05It was it's just one of those shows you just, you know, you
- 8:09don't have to turn the channel if there's people that are, you
- 8:12know, like, you know, right. And there's, there's nothing
- 8:16wrong with that and that's actually the subculture or The
- 8:19Counter Culture. Of today, is being a peg square.
- 8:23Is that crazy? But as a person he was on the
- 8:27other person he was just a really you know nice even be
- 8:30going guy. And yeah it's he was funny there
- 8:33to kind of amazing. So you know I want to get into
- 8:39your book here because you know John is you heard John is he
- 8:46found me with the real deal report on.
- 8:50Just two and a half years ago, now came back.
- 8:52Almost three years, virtual can't wait that long.
- 8:55I know it's like I can't even remember 2019 and you have gone
- 9:02through a lot of stuff. I'm telling you what they show
- 9:04and with the people you've had on and this is okay, this is
- 9:09Jenny, you don't even know like John Johnson owns my timeline.
- 9:12He's John has seen it all. Hmm and John, what is it fair to
- 9:17say that? Normally people that you know
- 9:21and just normal life don't go through so many Torpedoes and
- 9:25just Piranhas after him like I have no not at all.
- 9:29You really dodged it quite a few bullets and you were gone
- 9:38through some stressful times. I remember when the big booming
- 9:43bombs are coming up from underneath the ground and away
- 9:46and you had drones following you and yeah it was really crazy.
- 9:51Wow. Yeah yeah Jenna it's so bad.
- 9:55That they base the entire movie of Terminator on my life.
- 10:00I don't know if you knew that. Yeah.
- 10:01I'm John Connor. Yeah, it's document.
- 10:06True I turned down the role, that's why, and how many people,
- 10:09you know, we had on the show. And yeah, it was really
- 10:13something else and with some of the things that the people have
- 10:17done, you know, it's just really crazy because it's been a quite
- 10:21a show. Yeah.
- 10:22Yeah. It's like, you know, it's like
- 10:25it's like a A Greek tragedy waiting to happen, you know?
- 10:28Yeah, and I was like, for the longest time I was scared of
- 10:33turning 27. Then I was scared of turning
- 10:36like 33 because John Belushi died at 33 and Chris Farley.
- 10:43I said, okay, well I'm not that big but a job, you know?
- 10:48So, but I've survived what I'm saying.
- 10:49And I've certainly survive the past two and a half years for
- 10:53now, but Yeah, it's been, it's been a, it's been a journey.
- 10:57But so anyway, that's kind of ordinary.
- 11:02Oh God, too close for comfort to borrow the term or a good
- 11:06literally. I mean, it's like, hanging out
- 11:09at a high Riser on the ledge. You know, eating a tuna
- 11:13sandwich. Just like you see those
- 11:15pictures. It's just like we did some late
- 11:17night discussions. Do you know when I was trying to
- 11:19tell you or like certain people where I felt like they had found
- 11:23out to you and you didn't really do.
- 11:24See that at the time because you were involved with other things
- 11:27that I was like, hey, you better watch out for this person
- 11:30insured up to show true. Yeah, exactly.
- 11:35Jen and will were you at the time?
- 11:36But why didn't you tell me anything?
- 11:38I know I would have if I would have just like her sits on her
- 11:43thumbs and doesn't tell me anything.
- 11:49No, you're right. It's scary.
- 11:51It's scary to know that. Someone you know you think
- 11:57you're close with that you're working with hand.
- 11:59In hand is actually the Judas goat you know the Judas have
- 12:02Iscariot who it's a, it's frightening but but since then
- 12:12John reached out to me, Maybe a month ago, I think around that
- 12:18time some some end of summer or whatever and they told me I had
- 12:21this book and I said, wow, I had no idea and I'm glad you did.
- 12:25But so let's kind of maybe get into your life in what the books
- 12:31about and get into all the the sub Pathways to it all because
- 12:38I'm sure there's going to be a few rabbit holes that we might
- 12:40just step in. And yeah, let's get into the
- 12:44book. And it's a Sex book about the
- 12:47sex industry. And I'm going to let you I'm
- 12:50just I'm gonna let you have the floor and just kind of take us
- 12:53on the journey, what it's all about.
- 12:55Okay. Well, I mean my No, good piece
- 13:02of wife, her name was Pam. We were trying to look for a
- 13:08particular point in our lives. We're looking for something to
- 13:10do to, you know, gain sort of employment and making money and
- 13:16you don't really know what to do.
- 13:18And we were involved with a lot of, you know, I guess criminal
- 13:24things. When I take several things out.
- 13:31And all things like, God bless and stuff.
- 13:35And we weren't really do, by the way.
- 13:37This was, this was like, over 20 years ago, all this stuff and We
- 13:44decided to. Get into the the stripping
- 13:48industry and he became a featured dancer and that's where
- 13:52he was. So she was a really beautiful
- 13:53girl so that's where you become a feature like at a different
- 13:58city and they have like their regular girls with any creature,
- 14:02one girl from out of town. And they make her the part of
- 14:05the center piece for the Center Entertainment.
- 14:08Right? Right.
- 14:10I know exactly what you're talking about.
- 14:13A friend of mine told me once, but yeah, I know what you mean.
- 14:16Kind of like how Heather Locklear was always the special
- 14:19guest star on Melrose Place when we all know damn well know it
- 14:23wasn't but no I get what you mean.
- 14:26Yep. And so he was doing that and we
- 14:31were put our money together and because we wanted to start a
- 14:34nude maid service and we just had this idea that maybe due
- 14:39dates would go really well. And so we started putting that
- 14:43together and we Bought this big Murphy building and we converted
- 14:52it into different rooms with different.
- 14:58Things in it. Like a one-room would be.
- 15:00It's like the wet room and that's where people would come
- 15:04in and want to get urinated on believe it or not.
- 15:07And So I think, yeah, I know, I can't imagine the clean-up on
- 15:28them, like a dog kennel. Yeah, exactly.
- 15:34Just yeah. That room looks like it was made
- 15:37just for that though. And then we had a combination
- 15:40dungeon. I'm sorry.
- 15:41Go ahead. Wow.
- 15:41And if we could, what should he particularly talking about here?
- 15:46We talk about North Hollywood or know.
- 15:48We're talking about non Minneapolis.
- 15:51It was important Minneapolis in a re in the 80s.
- 15:55The 90s at this point 90s early 90s early 90s Minneapolis so
- 16:01this was at a time, too. That Minnesota's demographic
- 16:05just to put it in a overall context was changing you guys
- 16:09heard of bringing over the? Who are they?
- 16:11The Ethiopians are whatever the Marlins.
- 16:15Yes, some thank you so much Ian's.
- 16:17God. I'm sorry for Europeans.
- 16:19Yeah, but yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember that.
- 16:22That was the time. Huge profits.
- 16:36Why it is so bold States? Miss you could also you go to
- 16:40Minnesota. It's the whitest of all states
- 16:42and then you go to some places. They're the most liberal of all
- 16:44white people in the state who may not understand.
- 16:48But her again overtaken by the The Somalians, not the
- 16:54Ethiopians. And it was just so weird because
- 16:57I went there a few years ago, I saw what your local baseball
- 17:00team play. Oh, they're in, but when you
- 17:03hapless, no, no local. It was over there Minneapolis,
- 17:08and there's local baseball, little cities versus other
- 17:11cities. Oh okay.
- 17:13Yeah, yeah. But continue.
- 17:15So this is the early 90s. We're talking Minnesota, right?
- 17:19And Different room. We are one of the room was like
- 17:23the domination dungeon and a lot of guys we want to know role
- 17:27play. And you know what have they
- 17:30would get chained up to a wall and get whipped and one
- 17:36particular gentleman, he liked this is the oddest thing.
- 17:39I don't know why he liked it, but he would have, he would come
- 17:42in and he'd have one of the girls place a bedpost, the
- 17:46corner of the bed on his chest. And given that, he would have
- 17:51the girl dumped on the corner of the bed, and he would come out.
- 17:54So Bruce, I'm surprised. Somebody didn't it.
- 17:56Didn't tell him. Wow!
- 17:59This is what he got off on and it was the strangest thing he
- 18:03come out. Just sore, could barely move but
- 18:06happy, no, crazy, isn't it? Yeah, Jen.
- 18:13I got to ask you because you're a woman and From what you've
- 18:20told me, it eluded you and the Earth in real life.
- 18:25In the real life of women is this something that women think
- 18:29of the the year, the the water sports.
- 18:32As you heard earlier, the whipping, the change, or are
- 18:35these kind of just fixtures in stem and originated for men's
- 18:40imaginations? Well, I think that's why they
- 18:44might have to pay to do it, you know?
- 18:48So yeah, I would I would say that it's not okay.
- 18:51The average I've got angry baby. Correct, correct?
- 18:57No, no, I can't say, I have partaken in any of that and
- 19:01we're seeing it. Okay.
- 19:04All right. Well, that's good point.
- 19:05You just never know who's wearing their Viking horns, you
- 19:08know, to bed in there just cause Place.
- 19:11Well, they've normalized it all, and they just call it cosplay.
- 19:15No, you know, there's no relationship but So anyways this
- 19:19is all happening out before this was all kind of rolling out in
- 19:24this kind of new business. You started in Minnesota which
- 19:27because overall you know, this kind of shedding light on the
- 19:32sex industry, you know, the elephant in the room, no one
- 19:34wants to talk about but the oldest profession in the United
- 19:37States and if not the world. But up until that point where
- 19:42were you a just a sexual admirer.
- 19:48ER it of pornography, no. You know, how did this all come
- 19:52about? Because I knew nothing of this
- 19:55industry. And it just came from an idea
- 19:59because I knew that sex made money and I had a friend of mine
- 20:03who did Birthday bashes and things like that weddings, do
- 20:13you know, bachelor parties? And so he was in girls out of
- 20:16that and I watched him do it and he was making a lot of money.
- 20:20So I it was strictly just a money thing for me.
- 20:23And as I got into it, it really opened up with you could not
- 20:29believe the type of people that came to my business where, you
- 20:33know, judges Doctor, please let me know different types of
- 20:41people that you would never think you should priest like
- 20:44priests no police please holy shit.
- 20:47Yeah we good. What a brisket You would be
- 20:55probably would have declined about the door.
- 20:56You're like you know I wouldn't have I wouldn't let him are now,
- 21:01I don't discriminate now. So was this like in Downtown
- 21:05Minneapolis? No, it wasn't actually one of
- 21:08the suburbs and really prestigious suburb to Central.
- 21:14I would did, you have like a very liberal minded upbringing
- 21:21like, you know, anything goes nothing.
- 21:23Service. No Republican.
- 21:29Yeah, no. I had no upbringing like that at
- 21:32all. And so my mom and dad, you know,
- 21:34at the time they were not so pleased with me and I remember I
- 21:40told my dad and my dad want a big concrete business.
- 21:45And I told my dad, I could, I'm not walking into my future for
- 21:48the concrete. Crawl in my hand. and, What a
- 21:53stupid thing to say, you know and I'm gonna I'm gonna have
- 21:57stalkers dad, you know. I mean if it wasn't a thing he
- 21:59wanted to hear. Yeah.
- 22:02Who wants to hear that? We all?
- 22:04Yeah, it's hard to hear but I mean I would have understood but
- 22:07you didn't, you know? So okay.
- 22:10So this is all happening and I'm sure the money is rolling in and
- 22:14it was fun to it was at the time.
- 22:16It was fun. No, but let's get into the
- 22:21obviously. JC D element to the section
- 22:27astray. Just like, there's a seedy
- 22:28element to truck driving, you know, they call a lot lizards,
- 22:31there's the element to the music business is probably the worst
- 22:34out of all the past, two edges sin, and just some, some of
- 22:39these shitty things are talking about or some of them are just
- 22:42more polarized and others. But obviously, the section is
- 22:45tree is a You know, it's very polarized because it's all
- 22:50around us exhales, you know, it sounds and music, it sells in
- 22:54advertising, we look at it, you look at a Coca-Cola bottle.
- 22:59It's shaped like a, if the female figure, that's right.
- 23:06So, we're in and just like any kind of story where was The
- 23:13Tipping Point of a sea change for you?
- 23:15And in this section is free. What do you mean by that?
- 23:20Good point because we're was a, was there a turning point in at
- 23:25all? Because I know we spoke about
- 23:28one incident where there are some gentlemen, that that showed
- 23:32you something, you know? Oh yeah.
- 23:34Yeah, well it wasn't really a turning point where your but it
- 23:38was a quite a shocking experience.
- 23:41It was two gentlemen that came to my business and they wanted
- 23:46me to go into this type of business and I didn't know what
- 23:50they were talking about at first, but they came in and they
- 23:53showed me this video tape and It was this girl when you first,
- 24:00okay, you got to picture this? He cares on the VCR at the time
- 24:05it would do we have any fears that the basic version on and
- 24:08all of a sudden you just see this girl tied in his chair.
- 24:13And she's blindfolded, and she can't move and all of a sudden a
- 24:17guy comes in with a big mask over patent leather mask.
- 24:19We can't see him. and, He puts a drill through the girls kneecap
- 24:29and then, you know, it finishes off with him with a bat inserted
- 24:35up in this woman and he wrenched her open and what it was was a
- 24:38snuff film and they wanted to see if I would get involved with
- 24:42that. And I was freaked out now and
- 24:45I'm like, you guys got to go get out of here and but I don't know
- 24:49what he wanted. I you know what they wanted?
- 24:51I don't know if they wanted me to, like, give them my girls, so
- 24:54they could get home. I have no idea.
- 24:57And yeah, right. And knowing they left and I
- 25:02never seen him again, but they were kind of people are out
- 25:06there. Wow.
- 25:10They certainly are, you should Jenny it.
- 25:12You had a good flip through of them, John's doing Blanco, what
- 25:17are some of the some things that popped your mind?
- 25:20Because I'm sure this, you know, some of these things are hard to
- 25:23hear. But you know, what was crawling
- 25:26through your Your cranium at this six injuries.
- 25:31It's not something. We really even address too much
- 25:35on real New Media. So this is kind of a new Venture
- 25:37for the listeners. I'm sure.
- 25:41I feel like I had so many thoughts and so many further
- 25:45questions, you know, one being like, how many people continue
- 25:51to come back? Where there's like certain
- 25:54people that just seem to come often more than others.
- 25:58Not. In particular, you know, who
- 26:00they were whatever. But, you know, where their
- 26:02people like that, of course we had regular thumb but the funny
- 26:06thing was, when I first started for three months, I didn't make
- 26:11a cent, not one cent and I thought, well, maybe we made a
- 26:15mistake here and then, if this will happen, one guy came in,
- 26:20and right after that, it just exploded and it became its own
- 26:23breathing Street where I could not even control it.
- 26:26It has so many people. And the girls were forward.
- 26:30Just yeah. It was just unbelievable.
- 26:32And well, that was an interesting little take their
- 26:35Jenna asked. If people come off and John
- 26:37replied people. It exploded.
- 26:40Ha ha, ha, wonderful. Wonderful.
- 26:44Just step into introduce. Yeah, here late night every
- 26:47wait. Oh, I bet ya in some.
- 26:53So okay. So now, how long did you take?
- 26:56Take on the business for how long?
- 26:58Five years. Well, five years, five years in.
- 27:05Why did it come to a close and well one of my girls she agreed
- 27:13to have sex with an undercover agent and she got busted because
- 27:16you don't have to actually engage in the ACT but you all
- 27:18you have to do is verbally agree to it and so she gave me.
- 27:21She gets busted for prostitution and he went down and completely
- 27:31Told them that allured made me do it.
- 27:36And so they raided my business, they raided my home, and I was
- 27:40in jail and somebody woke me up and said, hey, is that you?
- 27:42And I said, yeah, that's me and you're like, wow.
- 27:46And she if you took the whole thing down pretty much and yeah,
- 27:54you know, so you're going to jail, you get out in naturally,
- 27:58you would think something so lucrative, what do I get back
- 28:01into that? Well, it was kind of time for it
- 28:07to stop and plus I had to I signed a deal where I had to
- 28:12close the business down, otherwise they're always going
- 28:15to look at a lot of time. So yeah, was it like the movies
- 28:22where you're like you're just rolling in the dough and the
- 28:26drugs and the well yeah, it was. You know, people think, you know
- 28:37like maybe 300,000 you know, in a year is not that great but
- 28:42it's a lot of money yeah we see them cash and everything like
- 28:46that it's not a lot of money and especially not having to be
- 28:51there after a while, you know you just you know, have all your
- 28:54other people just run it for you and you have your one girl, they
- 28:58call her the bottom, bitch. That's right.
- 29:24So you ventured out into other avenues of Life, obviously, and
- 29:29ya know what is it about this book that?
- 29:35I should ask you this before that.
- 29:37What inspired you to write a book?
- 29:39Because I've been wanting to write a book for like, almost
- 29:43eight years now and I think it's just hard to what was the
- 29:46inspiration? Well, people that I would talk
- 29:48to David. They were you know I as I got
- 29:50into this story and told him about her they couldn't believe
- 29:53it. You know, they were just like
- 29:55well you just don't seem like that kind of guy and I said well
- 29:57yeah, I know, but I did do that. They said you should write a
- 29:59book and by trying to go after numerous people told me.
- 30:04You know, write a book. So that's what I did.
- 30:08I love it. Yeah, so but we know what is the
- 30:15overall message of this book using that you're trying to
- 30:19convey to a global audience. I don't really have a message in
- 30:22it. I just wanted to share my
- 30:23experiences with it and all that other people kind of take out of
- 30:27it what they want. Well here's why I ask because
- 30:32you're going to have a you're going to have a set of people
- 30:34say you know, just because there's going to be various In
- 30:38GOI just everything I do to. There's always in pain but
- 30:41people say, you know what he contributed they would.
- 30:44Some people would view you and none of us here tonight.
- 30:48I don't think there's some people would view as a
- 30:51contributor to the trafficking and exploitation of women.
- 30:58Who what do you say to that kind of criticism?
- 31:01Because it's such a very polarized industry right now.
- 31:04Sex industry, especially as information of trafficking is
- 31:09reached a fever pitch with the general population first time
- 31:12the driver, right? Well I would exempt.
- 31:16Well I mean everybody has their opinion but I wasn't a
- 31:19trafficker and all my girls you know that worked there.
- 31:23They fully made it their own decision to do this.
- 31:27It's nothing that I ever had to you know, push for make them do
- 31:31anything and this is something like they chose three willingly
- 31:35and yeah. They like it, you know, they
- 31:41wouldn't do anything else. Jen, I'm going to ask you, what
- 31:46do you what is the, like, the overall, you know, from your
- 31:49experience, your group of girlfriends?
- 31:52How does that Circle or similar circles?
- 31:55What is their take on sex industry?
- 31:57Because I've noticed too, if a dancer is, you know, you would
- 32:03say she's very limited and who she tells she's an exotic dancer
- 32:08to because you know, women are catty.
- 32:11They can be catty judgment. They'll break your heart, leave
- 32:15you broken on the side of the road and they just don't give a
- 32:18damn about you at times. You don't say that.
- 32:24Like do they thumb their nose till at people in the sex
- 32:27industry? Sex workers?
- 32:30I would say if they knew someone personally and well then they
- 32:35probably wouldn't like myself. I know someone who used to dance
- 32:42and and I think she enjoyed, you know, the thrill of it at first
- 32:48and then it became a money thing, you know?
- 32:50It was like, wow, I can make a thousand.
- 32:53Us a night. And so then I just yeah, it
- 32:57became about the money and less about the thrill.
- 33:00And I mean, I still respected her and I kind of understood
- 33:05like, you know, if this is, you know, how you want to make your
- 33:09money and like, I don't know, I never judged her for it.
- 33:11I suppose, I could never do it, but she just had that
- 33:14personality where she she just had the confidence to do that
- 33:20and then a lure. Yeah, people don't realize it.
- 33:23It's really a lot of work with these girls today.
- 33:26There's not an easy job. Yeah, well, you have to cater to
- 33:34multiple people's preferences. So you're a chameleon, probably
- 33:38in a sense, you know what? It's like.
- 33:41Because it's like being a DJ. I used to be a DJ wedding DJ
- 33:45which is probably one of the worst jobs you can ever have in
- 33:47life. You know, they made a show
- 33:51called bridezilla and they called it that for a reason I've
- 33:55had you deal with the Bridezillas at weddings.
- 33:59You deal with a just so many people like, oh, you're playing
- 34:03the shittiest music. And then on the other side of
- 34:05the room, it's that's the greatest song of all time.
- 34:08Thank you for playing that. You know, like never nobody's
- 34:11ever happy and the same applies with, you know, strip clubs too.
- 34:18Like I would see like a chest, just to be frank, I would see,
- 34:23like, a nasty-looking, you know skank, like has no business like
- 34:28somewhere in, you know, what is it called legit?
- 34:32But fuck, Illinois. This is this actually real story
- 34:41where the day shift so you know no one else was available sir.
- 34:47During the lunch buffet. Yeah, yeah.
- 34:55Yeah. You can't get any worse than me
- 34:57right now. I was just thinking, you know,
- 34:59maybe she got pregnant and so glad I don't know.
- 35:01It's terrible. Well no they don't know maybe
- 35:04dr. She just there's been some
- 35:08strippers over the years. When I used to go to strip
- 35:11clubs, you know you go with a bunch of friends or whatever.
- 35:16It's thrilling at first as you know, Sam and then it's like,
- 35:20all right. It's going to be someone trying
- 35:21to con me out of money or someone who I'm talking to and
- 35:24then gets up and says that's going to be 5 songs.
- 35:26You owe me. $300 in like what? We're just talking, she says to
- 35:32me, this was in Dallas. She says me, yeah.
- 35:34Tell that to the Samoan bodyguard behind you and I said,
- 35:36oh God. Oh wow.
- 35:39I know you look like the bad bad guy from James Bond.
- 35:43That threw his hat. Is that sumo wrestler guy?
- 35:46Anyways. Yeah, so it's I me personally, I
- 35:52don't enjoy it. Like going to The strip club.
- 35:56I just think it's a waste of money now.
- 35:58I mean, maybe I used to be a long time ago, but I can't let
- 36:03specially now. I mean, you don't know who is
- 36:06triple quadruple, miracle jabbed and it's just virus shedding on
- 36:11you guys that cannot operate in a regular normal bar.
- 36:16They only go to strip clubs. Yeah.
- 36:21Yeah. Because they, I mean, they they
- 36:24you get hit on in the strip clubs, you know, the girls give
- 36:26them attention. They go to a regular but nobody
- 36:28pays any attention. Yeah, it's trucks.
- 36:30There Eco. I Love type.
- 36:33I know the type. So what do you say?
- 36:39I mean, but the atmosphere and some of them is it's really
- 36:42comfortable, you know. It the Ambiance it's darker.
- 36:46You know, you got these nice comfy seats with usually but
- 36:50wheels on the bottom. You know what Jenna did last
- 36:55weekend that I haven't been in so long but my girlfriends and I
- 36:58we used to go and just just hang out and sometimes Times we would
- 37:02you know pain. You know I don't know what.
- 37:06Sure right. But what do you sit at the front
- 37:08row? You know thing we used to do
- 37:09that. Just for fun.
- 37:10Oh but yeah we call that panty sniffers.
- 37:12Roll ha ha. Well yeah I mean we've had a lot
- 37:21of fun but yeah Ambiance but we also knew that these places
- 37:27stayed open till 3:00 a.m., you know, if we were going to be out
- 37:30all night, but some of the Bars in the Indianapolis area.
- 37:34It's like, based on, you know, how many people are in the bar?
- 37:38Yeah, that's where I live. Yeah.
- 37:39Oh my gosh. They have a lot of strip clubs
- 37:41there. Do, there's one light on every
- 37:45side of town within 15-20 miles. And that grade, you, the pts
- 37:50Petey's is one of the more famous ones, very familiar with
- 37:53these guys know each other Jan 8, Yeah, wait a minute.
- 38:03Jen, is there something you want to one time?
- 38:06It was one time. One reveal what your day job is
- 38:10in the the day shift. Hmm.
- 38:15I would have to do it like out of town or something.
- 38:18There's no way. I would do perfect John set that
- 38:20up. Now, make the call dead serious.
- 38:25That would have been in my more of my Prime, you know, come on,
- 38:31we're all in our Prime. This is it bro.
- 38:32Armageddon is coming what shopping?
- 38:36All right, well, I did hear that Peak is 35 and I'm only 36 so
- 38:43well, which calendar the Gregorian calendar or which.
- 38:48Oh, all right. See, that's the problem.
- 38:51I will say after my methodical thinking, I just been doing
- 38:55here. That the Hustler Club in Vegas
- 39:00is actually, is a really nice place because I used to live in
- 39:04Vegas and it's a great place to watch, you know, the games on
- 39:08Sunday, they do a whole thing. The food's, pretty good to know
- 39:12I'm thinking about it. Hey, ding, yeah, you know what
- 39:15that I actually have right here next to me?
- 39:19Who's my girlfriend now, but he used to be a dancer in Vegas at
- 39:24the Cheetah club, okay, I've been the chicken.
- 39:27If you have any, if you want to ask any questions about it, you
- 39:29can just ask her Stephanie if you want to try something.
- 39:52What was your go-to song? What was the song that was like?
- 39:55That was your song that you might be the fast lane writer.
- 39:59That's what was your song is your stage name?
- 40:07Constants constants. Cool.
- 40:12But your stage name biddy. I couldn't remember it.
- 40:35My stage name was Bono. And ships with like a lot of the
- 41:06dancers, like, they helped him out friends.
- 41:09I wish there's actually, there's actually, it's the biggest
- 41:11misconception is that it's just a bunch of creeps that go to
- 41:15strip clubs. There's actually people that
- 41:17just go for attention, like you said, and they actually went to
- 41:19making great friends with everybody.
- 41:22Yeah. And those are the type of guys.
- 41:24A lot of those guys that came to see me, believe it or not, they
- 41:28didn't, you know, their marriage wasn't going so well.
- 41:34I had a guy who had Parkinson's disease and he had not had any
- 41:40attention from a woman who said so long that he would ask you,
- 41:43you know, want to get the heat pay for it and just get it and
- 41:46he was so happy by just coming there.
- 41:49Well, yeah, there we go. Again, exploded.
- 41:55But to come there and he was a really lonely person.
- 42:03Yeah, so you just described me John.
- 42:08Thank you only world only in the budget.
- 42:13You know, that's what I think. Really if there's a point to get
- 42:17across and if you haven't, if you want to check out John's
- 42:22book, I believe. Now he's on Kindle and good.
- 42:27Are you on good reads as well, goodreads.com?
- 42:30Not yet, but I will be and Barnes & Noble.
- 42:33Amazon. Yeah.
- 42:36Is that is that by download or hardback?
- 42:39Yeah, well, you can get, you can get a hard copy and soft.
- 42:43There we go again to get. Yeah, there's a theme here
- 42:47tonight. Yeah.
- 42:49Yeah. And I'm assuming there's Eagles
- 42:54and the pictures could send a pictures in there, but you
- 42:56opens. Oh, no.
- 43:00Well well you won't get to see John Johnson in his early 90s
- 43:04mullet there in Minnesota, right?
- 43:06The hockey gear start. Yeah unfortunately but yes but
- 43:12our strip clubs I guess I should have Jenna since she's in
- 43:15Indiana. The the home of the strip club
- 43:21you think strip clubs are a dying industry.
- 43:24Because I kind of think they are a kind of think they are.
- 43:27They might be, I haven't been in so long.
- 43:29I don't know. I would maybe.
- 43:33I mean, you think about the younger generations and you
- 43:36know, you have to wonder if that's their type of thing or
- 43:40not. Well there's been a huge Wing
- 43:43now over for you know where you can get live action you know
- 43:46with the to the internet now just on camera people don't have
- 43:49to leave their home you know it's going to find a way.
- 43:54Survive. You will always?
- 43:59Yeah. Yeah.
- 44:00That makes sense. Whether I mean, but you got like
- 44:04Fox News, Right? York Times like, putting out all
- 44:08these articles. Like, we covered it on are just
- 44:12a while back, how to engage in sex, during times of covid.
- 44:18Then it's now it's how to engage in sex during the times of the
- 44:22monkey pox. And you know, we see it, as for
- 44:27what it is, completely just stupid rubbish.
- 44:32Comic book just nonsensical directives from a bunch of
- 44:38bureaucrat, nobody's whatever, right?
- 44:40But there's people that don't see that they Co it.
- 44:44So LA Times is putting it out there and they're freaking out
- 44:49there like, oh God, I'm not dating.
- 44:52I'm not going to go kiss this person or that because or
- 44:54touching, you know, it's that level of fear because it's the
- 44:58fear and the lack of knowledge and the lack of History, the
- 45:02lack of discernment. Movement there does create the
- 45:06this new Collective mindset of the 21st century that's going to
- 45:10be just accelerating now as people are dropping like flies
- 45:15everywhere and that's why I think the programming that we
- 45:18saw on the all these movies. Like Demolition, Man, were, you
- 45:22know, people engaging in fornication through VR virtual
- 45:25reality? Yeah, was happening it by Design
- 45:29and I think that's, you know what I'm saying.
- 45:32The the In contact Industries, the service sectors of all
- 45:35types. They want to get rid of that as
- 45:38the these new smart City. Initiatives are now certain to
- 45:42be roll out. I got probably a part of the
- 45:44agenda 2030 which is, yeah, rid of all of it is well, I mean,
- 45:53until they have to rename it agenda, 2035, right?
- 45:58Don't cross this line. You know what?
- 46:06I was so pissed when that happened, I sold so many
- 46:09agenda21 t-shirts. They do know.
- 46:14But I know people that did this they are can't say you know too
- 46:28broken up about it but yeah it's gin 2030 now you know you know
- 46:34there Showing when the world economic Forum in the UN had to
- 46:37have a like not so secret meeting somewhere at some Cafe
- 46:41in Brussels write and sign in sign a proclamation recently to
- 46:46accelerate the the time and the pace of agenda 2030.
- 46:50They're like shit you're finding out too fast quick.
- 46:54Yeah and see the other wave coming very soon and blah blah
- 46:59blah. Well that's what that's what I'm
- 47:01afraid of do though because cuz, the other way that happened in
- 47:07the 60s like you know, getting away from the the very militant
- 47:13The patriarch if you will, like there should have been like a
- 47:17happy even like median balance, right?
- 47:20No, it didn't stop. There is no brakes.
- 47:22So when all the way to the extreme polarized, other
- 47:25opposite of the spectrum and now it's showing in back and I hope
- 47:30we don't go back into like Mussolini type of, you know,
- 47:34fascist structure which if we do, I don't think we'll see you
- 47:38in our lifetime but the Next Generation it's gonna have to
- 47:40fight that. Hmm.
- 47:43That's going to suck. And now I can bet on a civil
- 47:48war, you know, my my opinion. But well, let's get into this
- 47:56now is After we've just kind of exploded the thoughts of the sex
- 48:04industry, which will dive right back into If Civil War.
- 48:10But do you think we're in a civil war, Jenny things?
- 48:12We we are. You do it?
- 48:15Yeah. Well, I don't know if we
- 48:18Americans are good at banding together like that, that's the
- 48:23LIE. Because you really should be at
- 48:31the same, right? I agree.
- 48:34Well, I think you're both right and aspect and then I think
- 48:39you're both kind of maybe there's a missing course to the
- 48:45mill here and I think the first course I would say, I think, as
- 48:50far as a physical War I think people are too fat and lazy to
- 48:54do that, you know, remember to decadent, you know, to fight
- 48:59physically like that, right. You have to be hungry.
- 49:04Yeah. You have to be very down and
- 49:06out, which we're not there yet, but you have to be just have
- 49:10nothing left to lose. You have to have dirty finger,
- 49:12fingernails, you don't, you don't have anything to eat and
- 49:17you have to want that. I think it's the prison.
- 49:21Yeah, alternative. Yeah, I mean the whole prison
- 49:28thing that oh God the prison industrial complex, but the for
- 49:32the other point. Yeah, I want to bring that up
- 49:35but the other topic I was, I would say that we already are in
- 49:39a civil war but it's not the Civil War that you expect.
- 49:43Not, they do it right. It's not that like, the movie
- 49:46Glory, you know, the bringing the cannon, and right.
- 49:49We only get to the battlefield in a way.
- 49:52We are in one. Yeah, yeah.
- 49:54It's Civil War of of, you know, like Kanye West's just got
- 49:58cancelled out of you know, JPMorgan Chase because in like
- 50:01his politics Real Deal media. We got cancelled from stripe
- 50:05payment processor. No reason no room, no reply, no
- 50:10recourse right. You know about which is you know
- 50:17what, I'm glad they did that because they overplayed their
- 50:20hand They really did really older plating, oh, overplayed,
- 50:26where I'm starting to think the whole trial is fake and stupid.
- 50:31It, can you imagine when the jury said that where they had
- 50:34juryman was, you know, damn, well.
- 50:36They had their pinky right next to their mouth, as he said, 1
- 50:38billion dollars, right? One petting, a cat to be
- 50:45incredible. Yeah.
- 50:51On right into the Trap. Sure that's just it.
- 50:54The the Civil War is the attacking of the the confines
- 50:59the structure of basic Communications Necessities.
- 51:04The censorship the right now, right?
- 51:07Speech. You know?
- 51:07I mean that's gone right? We can't express ourselves any
- 51:14more excuses. It's not the same place that.
- 51:17You know, when I was a kid, I grew up in, it's really not and
- 51:20literally Lee. Yeah.
- 51:22A violence all over Minnesota. Totally different demographic.
- 51:26Well, and is it really fair for these companies that some of
- 51:29these companies are monopolies? You know, to get in, you know,
- 51:33their hand in these politics and say, well I don't like what they
- 51:36say and then cancel people are mean.
- 51:39It seems like someone's bank account is a huge deal but and
- 51:44it's like I don't understand why they feel the need to be so
- 51:49involved. Why can't they play both?
- 51:51Sides. Wouldn't that be the, you know
- 51:52what? Why, why do you?
- 51:56Well, thank you for asking. As I'm choking on my we're
- 52:02choking coming and exploding tonight.
- 52:04That's what we're doing. What here, you know, why they do
- 52:08it? Because we let them, where was
- 52:11everybody in 2011? Where was everybody in 2011?
- 52:14When the TSA started to put their hands up oooooh people's
- 52:17orifices, right? There was talking about that.
- 52:212011 was the first attempt to stop in Texas actually led by
- 52:27Alex Jones. I was, I was, I think I was on
- 52:30board with that one and Obama was going to put a are blockade
- 52:33Over Texas. If they did that they would have
- 52:35let the cat out of the bag. But where was everybody?
- 52:38I go to TSA. Now, when I go to find and I put
- 52:42up, you know, I put up a whole medicine, I don't go through the
- 52:46whole thing and people get annoyed at me and then they
- 52:49purposely make sure I hear them, they'll say.
- 52:51Thank you for keeping us safe, right?
- 52:54You know, just some ticket scalper, show stereos in the
- 52:57back of his truck and a parking lot, which now he's got a shiny
- 53:00badge. You got from Toys R Us and I
- 53:02think she knows. Yeah, we are reactive Society, I
- 53:05think and is it our fault? Probably.
- 53:09What's going to be the The proverbial straw that breaks the
- 53:13camel's back. I mean, we'd learn to, you know,
- 53:16really bear a lot of weight now as it's progressively being put
- 53:20upon us and we do our Rock Bottom's out for Americans.
- 53:23You know we all have crap doors, we could take a little bit more.
- 53:26We can take a little bit more oppression you know.
- 53:28I mean is this a crazy people aren't trying no line anymore?
- 53:32All right. Yeah, exactly.
- 53:36You know what started off as white guilt?
- 53:39Then turned into Straight guilt. Which then turned into gender,
- 53:45guilt. Oh, you can't say that.
- 53:48You're a man, you don't have what, you know, it's just It all
- 53:53stems from something that happened.
- 53:56Really it major turn in the 1980s, it was the empowerment of
- 54:02in the building and development of China and when the USSR fell,
- 54:09the ideology of the USSR didn't fall like like the Third Reich,
- 54:13you just change uniforms and they brought it over here to the
- 54:15US and behest of China. It's called ideological.
- 54:18Subversion, Up Is Down, Down is up.
- 54:22Female females male and it's done is a tactic to take down
- 54:27one of the last superpowers nation states without firing one
- 54:30bullet.