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Credlin | 8 January · Credlin

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Speaker 1: Peter Kredlin live on Sky News Australia. Good evening and
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Speaker 1: welcome to the program. I'm James Morrow filling in for
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Speaker 1: Peter Kredline. I'm gonna have the latest on the Prime
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Speaker 1: Minister's decision to call a Royal commission into the Bondai
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Speaker 1: terror at attack. Shortly, but we've got a lot more
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Speaker 1: coming up tonight, including mayhem in the US after an
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Speaker 1: anti ice protester is shot and a governor makes what
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Speaker 1: sounds like a call for insurrection. Plus Bondai hero Ahmed
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Speaker 1: al Ahmed goes to New York and you'll never guess
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Speaker 1: who he wants to meet, and the carbon tax is back.
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Speaker 1: Ram Lloyd reveals the backdoor effort to bring back this
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Speaker 1: very bad idea. But first tonight, a weakened Prime Minister
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Speaker 1: Anthony Albonizi finally does the right thing and calls a
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Speaker 1: Royal commission into anti Semitism. Now, finally, twenty five days
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Speaker 1: after the horror that unfolded at Bondai Beach, the Prime
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Speaker 1: Minister has done what everybody has been begging him to do,
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Speaker 1: call a royal commission.
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Speaker 2: Which it's clear to me that a royal commission is essential.
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Speaker 2: Today I announced that I will be recommending to the
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Speaker 2: Governor General in an Executive Council meeting that will be
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Speaker 2: held tomorrow, that a Royal Commission on any Semitism and
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Speaker 2: Social Cohesion be established. Dennis Richardson's work will become part
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Speaker 2: of the Commission, and he will support its work with
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Speaker 2: delivery of an interim report by the Commission in April.
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Speaker 1: Well, you know, that's all very well and good, but
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Speaker 1: let's put what he has done in perspective and consider
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Speaker 1: the politics of this announcement that came after weeks and
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Speaker 1: weeks of christ not only from Jewish groups, but business leaders,
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Speaker 1: legal organizations, sporting fraternities, religious bodies and civil society. What
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Speaker 1: an unnecessary delay. And speaking of delays, it is remarkable
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Speaker 1: to consider the reversal of fortune suffered by Anthony Albanesi.
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Speaker 1: Remember in early twenty twenty five he also delayed something.
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Speaker 1: He delayed what was expected to be an April election,
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Speaker 1: but that was in order to give himself space to
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Speaker 1: lead the country through Cyclone Alfred's landfallen aftermath. When he
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Speaker 1: did that delaying, he did so from a position of strength.
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Speaker 1: Back then, Albanesi looked like a man taking charge of events,
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Speaker 1: and when Australians finally went to the polls in May,
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Speaker 1: the Prime Minister won a thumping parliamentary majority, hoped that
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Speaker 1: no small part, it must be said, by a rudderless
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Speaker 1: opposition campaign. But as we launched now into twenty twenty six,
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Speaker 1: Albanesi is leading from a position of weakness, having foolishly
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Speaker 1: delayed four weeks his ultimately inevitable decision to launch a
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Speaker 1: Royal commission into the Bondai Beach terror attack. Paul acts
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Speaker 1: by the massacre and facing the wrath of a Jewish
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Speaker 1: community which felt ignored after more than two years of
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Speaker 1: rabid anti Semitism, harassment, arson attacks, docksing in worse Albinizi
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Speaker 1: presumably hoped that the demands for a Royal commission would
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Speaker 1: peter out over the summer holidays. Well, as we all
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Speaker 1: know now, he was wrong. And now Anthony Albini appears
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Speaker 1: to have done the right thing finally, after as Winston
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Speaker 1: Churchill once d of the United States, after exhausting all
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Speaker 1: the other options. And yet though despite this, let's give
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Speaker 1: him some credit, there is some room for hope from
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Speaker 1: this process. The best thing that can be said about
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Speaker 1: the Royal Commission into anti Semitism and Social Cohesion announced
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Speaker 1: by the Prime Minister is that it finally answers the
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Speaker 1: calls not just as I say, from the Jewish community,
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Speaker 1: but from the majority of Australians who believed that the
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Speaker 1: mos terrible assault on our way of life at Bondai
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Speaker 1: Beach demands only the highest level of response from the government.
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Speaker 1: And to be fair, there are other things here that
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Speaker 1: I think we should be thankful for. Albanizi acknowledged, for one,
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Speaker 1: that the attacks were again not just on the Jewish
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Speaker 1: community but on the Australian way of life. This is
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Speaker 1: a key point I think that needs to be underlined
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Speaker 1: time and time again to ensure that the fight against
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Speaker 1: anti Semitism is not seen as a niche concern but
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Speaker 1: something which affects us all. And while the devil may
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Speaker 1: be in the details, the key areas for the Royal
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Speaker 1: Commission announced by Albanesi are more promising than I had worried.
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Speaker 2: One, tackling anti Semitism by investigating the nature and prevalence
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Speaker 2: of anti Semitism, examining its k drivers in Australia, including
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Speaker 2: religious and ideologically moti extremism and radicalization. Two making any
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Speaker 2: recommendations to assist law enforcement, border control, immigration and security
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Speaker 2: agencies to tackle any Semitism, including through improvements to guidance
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Speaker 2: and training within law enforcement, border control, immigration and security
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Speaker 2: agencies to respond to any Semitic conduct. Three examine the
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Speaker 2: circumstances surrounding the Bondai terrorist attack on the fourteenth of
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Speaker 2: December twenty twenty five, and the work of Dennis Richardson
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Speaker 2: will be central to this. And four make any other
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Speaker 2: recommendations arising out of the inquiry for strengthening Social Cohesion
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Speaker 2: in Australia encountering the spread of ideological and religiously motivated
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Speaker 2: extremism in Australia.
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Speaker 1: So all in all, that is frankly better than it
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Speaker 1: could have been. One thing that people were concerned about
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Speaker 1: did not happen. There will be no simultaneous inquiry into Islamophobia,
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Speaker 1: which among other things, suggests the Labor government has finally
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Speaker 1: learned its lesson from seeming to create false equivalencies while
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Speaker 1: pandering to large Muslim voting blocks in Labor held seats.
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Speaker 1: As well, it was very important that the question of
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Speaker 1: immigration got an explicit mention in those terms of reference,
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Speaker 1: which is only fair given that jihadism that appears to
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Speaker 1: have inspired the alleged attackers is indeed an entirely important ideology,
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Speaker 1: and indeed also simply large amounts of immigration are doing
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Speaker 1: quite a bit to strain social cohesion. I mean, when
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Speaker 1: people can't afford a house or to rent an apartment
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Speaker 1: because they feel like they're being priced out by a
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Speaker 1: growing population, well, that's also a way in which immigration
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Speaker 1: can yes harm social cohesion. Yet at the same time
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Speaker 1: there are reasons I have deep concerns about this process
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Speaker 1: because that term social cohesion I just mentioned, that's a
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Speaker 1: woolli one. And certainly Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke did
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Speaker 1: his part to undermine the hope for unity of all
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Speaker 1: this talk of social cohesion when he took a cheap
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Speaker 1: shot at the opposition in today's press conference.
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Speaker 3: Some of the terms of reference that had been floated around,
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Speaker 3: in particular from the Opposition in recent weeks would have
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Speaker 3: left something that gave us no answers for a very
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Speaker 3: long time, would not have had the expertise of someone
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Speaker 3: like a national security expert like Dennis Richardson, and also
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Speaker 3: would have had the would have failed to have the
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Speaker 3: priority of social cohesion in the structure that's been given.
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Speaker 1: Here, how tasteless, And as the press conference was going on,
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Speaker 1: I could only wonder what the Prime Minister was thinking
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Speaker 1: about there when the Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke wound up,
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Speaker 1: as I say, undermining that call for unity. But you know,
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Speaker 1: I suppose Tony Burke now that after all of this
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Speaker 1: he will never be Prime Minister, and maybe he was
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Speaker 1: just acting out well, poor Didams. But if the Royal
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Speaker 1: Commission is to be genuine about this idea of social cohesion,
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Speaker 1: then it must, as I say, look at every area
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Speaker 1: of life where social cohesion has been weakened and where
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Speaker 1: anti Semitism has been allowed to take root, including labour
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Speaker 1: strongholds in their constituencies, in the arts industry and in
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Speaker 1: academia where anti Semitism is rife. And even it must
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Speaker 1: also look at the Prime Minister's Office itself, which was
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Speaker 1: warned repeatedly about anti Semitism, the rising tide of Jew
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Speaker 1: hatred and the danger that this posed to all of this,
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Speaker 1: but which decided to ignore those warnings and as a
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Speaker 1: result was caught flat footed. Now there's other questions too.
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Speaker 1: Another one is staffing, depending on how this Commission is staffed,
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Speaker 1: and what it's terms of reference. With the final terms
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Speaker 1: of reference turned out to be, we could also wind
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Speaker 1: up saying the worst things about it, namely that it
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Speaker 1: was a politically engineered stitch up designed to quell community anger,
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Speaker 1: but which fails in its primary mission. And what is
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Speaker 1: that mission? Well, it is to prevent a replay of
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Speaker 1: the horrors of December fourteen. And finally, of course, there
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Speaker 1: are concerns about the commissioner herself, former High Court Justice
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Speaker 1: Virginia Bell. And while Bell is well regarded as a jurist,
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Speaker 1: she is also a progressive who has a long history
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Speaker 1: in so called progressive legal circles, having worked at the
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Speaker 1: Redford Legal Center and for the Royal Commission into the
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Speaker 1: New South Wales Police in the nineteen nineties. She was
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Speaker 1: also the judge who replaced Michael Kirby on the High
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Speaker 1: Court and was appointed by Kevin Rudd, which have an
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Speaker 1: awful lot of people concerned, including people in the Jewish community,
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Speaker 1: and among their greatest concerns is that Bell was part
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Speaker 1: of a High Court ruling that struck down Tasmanian laws
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Speaker 1: about political protests, in a case that later became precedent
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Speaker 1: for the decision that allowed pro Palestine demonstrators to march disgracefully,
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Speaker 1: I might add across the Harbor Bridge last year. Even
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Speaker 1: more pertinently, she has zero in the way of national
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Speaker 1: security experience. There are other petfalls too, and as I
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Speaker 1: mentioned before, staffing is a big one. How this Commission
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Speaker 1: is ultimately staffed will have a big impact on how
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Speaker 1: its investigations proceed and what its final outcome is. Labor,
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Speaker 1: of course, is going to be tempted to revert to
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Speaker 1: form and staff it with counsel and lawyers connected to
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Speaker 1: the ALP, much in the same way Labor stacks out
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Speaker 1: bureaucracies and benches whenever it is in power. But if
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Speaker 1: the government is true to the ideal of let the
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Speaker 1: Commission go where it will, letting the facts fall where
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Speaker 1: they may, they must resist this temptation and instead staff
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Speaker 1: the investigation with lawyers and experts with real criminal law
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Speaker 1: and national security expertise. All right, let's bring in our
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Speaker 1: panel to get their thoughts on this breaking news. Jemma
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Speaker 1: Targnini from GT Communications and Sky News contributor Carolyn Derusso
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Speaker 1: joined me. Now, thank you so much for coming on
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Speaker 1: tonight here. Jemma Let's start with you. The decision to
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Speaker 1: finally announce this inquiry was inevitable. How did you read
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Speaker 1: what has come out of the Prime Minister's office today?
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Speaker 1: Was it too little, too late? Or is there some
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Speaker 1: cause for hope in all of this?
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Speaker 4: James, I'm always the one who looks for hope. As
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Speaker 4: you probably well know. I agree with your editorial in
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Speaker 4: the sense that it is so much better than what
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Speaker 4: we sort of feared in terms of terms of reference
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Speaker 4: and things like that. Caroline talk to the appointment of
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Speaker 4: Virginia Bell. Because I'm not a lawyer, but what I
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Speaker 4: will say is this is not I mean, if the
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Speaker 4: Prime Minister expects us to think he's done deep reflection,
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Speaker 4: I think he's taking us for a bunch of mugs.
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Speaker 4: Because this is a prime minister who has been dragged, kicking, screaming, reluctant,
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Speaker 4: and you know, in every other way resistant to the
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Speaker 4: idea of exposing his government to scrutin me over how
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Speaker 4: we got to bond Eye. I'm usually the person who
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Speaker 4: congratulates a government or a person who changes their attack,
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Speaker 4: but in this case I don't, and I'll tell you why, because,
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Speaker 4: as you said, it was twenty five days and not
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Speaker 4: just twenty five days, but twenty five days of the
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Speaker 4: Prime Minister gas light in the population and saying you know,
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Speaker 4: oh no, no, no, you won't get what you need
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Speaker 4: from a royal commission. It be too sensitive, the victims
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Speaker 4: might be triggered. We're not going to do that. You know,
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Speaker 4: the real experts. So like my question to the Prime
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Speaker 4: Minister would be, have the actual experts he's been hiding
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Speaker 4: behind the last couple of weeks changed their mind. I mean,
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Speaker 4: it's just to shamozzle and he's not a strong leader.
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Speaker 4: He's been missing in action. This is a good outcome
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Speaker 4: for Australians, for all of us because we might get
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Speaker 4: the answers that we need and we know how much
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Speaker 4: is at stake. But it is not a good come
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Speaker 4: for the Prime Minister. This is a capitulation. This is
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Speaker 4: not conviction. This is capitulation.
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Speaker 1: And Caroline, you are a trained lawyer, you've practiced as
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Speaker 1: a lawyer. What does your reaction legally to what's just
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Speaker 1: come out here. I've said in my editorial that the
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Speaker 1: devil is going to be in who as the lawyers
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Speaker 1: who wind up being counsel assistant and who worked for
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Speaker 1: this wind up being do you buy this road to
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Speaker 1: Damascus conversion?
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Speaker 5: Well, I don't think it's a road to Damascus conversion.
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Speaker 5: I think it is you know, it is rolling the
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Speaker 5: proverbilan glitter and trying to make the most of it
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Speaker 5: and pretend that it's leadership.
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Speaker 6: But it is.
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Speaker 5: It is better than what the alternative was, which was
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Speaker 5: simply just the departmental review. And I think, look, if
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Speaker 5: nothing else comes from this, we're highlighting a very significant issue,
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Speaker 5: will be highlighting it on the national stage. And like
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Speaker 5: you said, this here is you know, a Royal Commission
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Speaker 5: can compel evidence and the production of documents and all
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Speaker 5: sorts of things which no other review can do. So
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Speaker 5: it will bring to the surface a lot of uncomfortable
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Speaker 5: things for a lot of people. And I think it's
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Speaker 5: really important we have this conversation. As far as as
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Speaker 5: Virginia Bell goes, Okay, she may not have a particular
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Speaker 5: subject matter specialty in national security, but she sat on
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Speaker 5: appellate courts for a very long time and so she
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Speaker 5: would have dealt with these sorts of matters in the
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Speaker 5: course of sitting, particularly on those appellate courts, and you're
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Speaker 5: never going to get there's no such thing as the
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Speaker 5: perfect judge right for anything at all. But she is
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Speaker 5: incredibly experienced, and I note that some people you know
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Speaker 5: probably have some reservations, but I think as best that
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Speaker 5: she's given a go and as far as you know,
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Speaker 5: the lawyers and the other people her involved, it will
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Speaker 5: be whatever it will be. But no doubt some very
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Speaker 5: interesting things will rise to the top. And they're the
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Speaker 5: things that particularly the journalistic profession needs to be ready
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Speaker 5: for so that the rest of Australia can know what's
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Speaker 5: actually going on here.
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Speaker 1: Yes, we all know what rises to the top. Hair
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Speaker 1: why do we want to another topic here? Some other
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Speaker 1: news tangentially related to this, The Adelaide Festival has canceled
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Speaker 1: the scheduled appearance of outspoken author Randa al Fata. In
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Speaker 1: the statement they released today, the festival said, we have
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Speaker 1: today advise scheduled writer doctor Rhanda abdel Fata that the
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Speaker 1: board has formed the judgment that we do not wish
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Speaker 1: proceed with their scheduled appearance at next month's Writers Week. Jemmatagnidi.
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Speaker 1: This is a woman who has been involved in some
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Speaker 1: shall we say, fairly controversial and colorful statements about the
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Speaker 1: Israel Palestine conflict. Do you think that groups that are
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Speaker 1: in the arts, such as the people organizing this festival,
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Speaker 1: are starting to wake up now finally to the problem
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Speaker 1: that results from platforming some of these views.
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Speaker 4: I hope, so is the short answer. It's always extraordinary
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Speaker 4: to me, James, that the art sector. I mean, it's
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Speaker 4: a walking contradiction. It's the people that you know down
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Speaker 4: with capitalism, but gosh, you better fund us, you know,
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Speaker 4: mining companies and you know production company's a bit of
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Speaker 4: fund us because no, but seriously, these are the people
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Speaker 4: who want to smash capitalism. But without the profit that
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Speaker 4: comes from capitalism, that pays taxes that fund them or
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Speaker 4: gives direct grants for them to actually exist, they would
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Speaker 4: just be, you know, doing skits in their backyard. So
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Speaker 4: I think they are actually a bunch of you know,
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Speaker 4: heavily entitled people to start with. But in relation to this,
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Speaker 4: it is extraordinary to me that it has taken so
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Speaker 4: long for something like this to happen. You know, flip
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Speaker 4: the switch and imagine any other author or artist saying
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Speaker 4: the things of the nature that doctor Putter has said
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Speaker 4: about another cohort, and you know, it is a two
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Speaker 4: speed economy in the art section in the art sector.
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Speaker 4: According to me, I think this is a wise decision
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Speaker 4: by the festival and for those kind of going, oh,
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Speaker 4: freedom of speech. Freedom of speech does not mean freedom
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Speaker 4: of consequences. That is the beauty of a democracy. So
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Speaker 4: bravo to the Adelaide Festival, and may we see more
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Speaker 4: of this sort of you know, even keeled approach to
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Speaker 4: you know, the people who love a safe space. It
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Speaker 4: can't be just a safe space for the people you
17:32
Speaker 4: want to be safe and everybody else gets pummeled if
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Speaker 4: you want to if you want to go into that,
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Speaker 4: you know what I mean, It's just this ridiculous thing,
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Speaker 4: you know.
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Speaker 1: But I'm just gonna say Caroline though too, because there's
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Speaker 1: this whole issue of this Well commission is social cohesion.
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Speaker 1: If the arts and academia, Carol, are undermining social cohesion
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Speaker 1: with platforming radical views on the left. I mean, the
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Speaker 1: Prime mister loves to talk about radical is one the right,
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Speaker 1: but they've got to face up to this radical is
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Speaker 1: on the left.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, one hundred percent they do. And I think, well,
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Speaker 5: and I don't know the reason for this decision, but
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Speaker 5: you know, we look at the consequences that flowed after
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Speaker 5: the theater the Sydney Theater Company incident, and there was
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Speaker 5: a huge issue post then in relation to donations and
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Speaker 5: funding and attendances and all those sorts of things. And
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Speaker 5: like I said, I don't know the basis for the decision,
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Speaker 5: but I can only think that there was the risks
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Speaker 5: were weighed up by the people who were responsible here
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Speaker 5: to say, well, we know the things that she has
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Speaker 5: said before in the current environment, are we comfortable with
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Speaker 5: dealing with the backlash of that, because ultimately she wouldn't
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Speaker 5: be the person to suffer from the consequences. The organizers
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Speaker 5: of the event would and are they happy to deal
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Speaker 5: with that? And I would say that they probably got
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Speaker 5: to the point where they were like, nah, actually.
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Speaker 1: Well yeah, look at finally, I just want to add
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Speaker 1: our panel on a little fun note here, Bondi tearror
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Speaker 1: attack hero Ahmed Alahmed, well, he's in New York now
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Speaker 1: for further treatment. As he touched down and who was
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Speaker 1: met with the meat by the media on the tarmac,
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Speaker 1: he's a global phenomenon now and he shared these thoughts.
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Speaker 1: Have a listen to this, you guys, mister.
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Speaker 7: Trunk, while you're here, I wish you want to see him.
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Speaker 7: He's a hero of course of the ward. I love
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Speaker 7: him well.
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Speaker 1: I'm sure Anthony Albaniezi would have loved hearing that. But
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Speaker 1: Caroline and Jebba, do we think it is time to
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Speaker 1: reach out to the White House, mister Trump. If you're watching,
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Speaker 1: mister President, schedule a meeting with Ahmed Alahmed.
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Speaker 4: I do it just to see all of the massive,
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Speaker 4: you know, tantrums in head explosions that we're resulting that.
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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm here for I'm here for the lowls.
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Speaker 5: James, I'm all for it, absolutely, God absolutely, I've got
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Speaker 5: nothing to add to that.
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Speaker 7: I totally agree.
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Speaker 6: I reckon the meldown would just be.
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Speaker 1: S the pop fantastic. Thanks so much, Jebba Tagnini, Caroline
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Speaker 1: Russa really appreciate you your time and yes, mister President
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Speaker 1: put that invitation now, bring Ahmed Alahmed to the White
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Speaker 1: House please. Now let's move on here, because of course,
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Speaker 1: lots of things are happening in the world of the
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Speaker 1: environment as well. Joining me now is the Australians Environment
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Speaker 1: editor Graham, Lloyd Graham. There's so much news happening here today.
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Speaker 1: But I was absolutely shocked to hear the news that
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Speaker 1: there is backdoor talk about a carbon price coming back
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Speaker 1: on the agenda with new proposals, reigniting debate over whether
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Speaker 1: Australians are being quietly walked back into this.
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Speaker 7: According to a.
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Speaker 1: Report in the Australian Financial Review, tell us what is
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Speaker 1: going on? Are we already paying a carbon tax by stealth?
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Speaker 8: Well, hi, James, we're paying a carbon tax in the
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Speaker 8: form of subsidies we're handing over to the renewable energy
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Speaker 8: industry at the moment. But I think it's fair to
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Speaker 8: say the Albanezi government would like a debate over a
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Speaker 8: carbon tax about as much as our hole in the head.
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Speaker 8: But this is a proposal that has been put by
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Speaker 8: an individual to the rule making body of the electricity
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Speaker 8: sector saying that there should be consideration of putting a
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Speaker 8: carbon tax into the electricity market. Of course, it's all
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Speaker 8: geared towards raising funds that can then be handed on
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Speaker 8: to renewable energy and to penalize fossil fuel producers to
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Speaker 8: make them shoulder the bill. But it's not something that
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Speaker 8: has to be accepted by the rule maker and I
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Speaker 8: think they'll be thinking long and hard before they put
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Speaker 8: it into the political arena.
21:39
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I suspect, considering the way the economy may
21:42
Speaker 1: be going between now and the next election, I think
21:44
Speaker 1: LABEL would want to run a million miles from this.
21:47
Speaker 1: But they are still on the hook for other things,
21:50
Speaker 1: including their renewables fantasy, which is facing even more obstacles today.
21:54
Speaker 1: There was a report in the ABC that found kent
21:57
Speaker 1: Brook Green Energy Hub has passed or planning her well.
22:00
Speaker 1: But there's a report that highlights huge environmental concerns around
22:04
Speaker 1: what this might wind up doing to marine life. This
22:07
Speaker 1: is an offshore windfarm coastal ecosystems all the lake, and
22:11
Speaker 1: again we have this case of regional communities feeling that
22:16
Speaker 1: their concerns are being ignored. Tell us about this project
22:19
Speaker 1: on the Victorian coast. I thought these things couldn't find
22:22
Speaker 1: any financing, that they were going under, but apparently.
22:25
Speaker 7: Not well that tried.
22:26
Speaker 8: This one's really in wetlands near the coast, and the
22:30
Speaker 8: concern is that it will threaten some bird population and
22:36
Speaker 8: sort of rams are listed wetland areas. But it's another
22:40
Speaker 8: case of well, look, climate change trumps everything, so you
22:45
Speaker 8: have to kill the environment to save it. If you
22:48
Speaker 8: were looking for places to cite these industrial facilities, fragile
22:54
Speaker 8: ecosystems and wetlands are probably the last place you would
22:59
Speaker 8: have a look.
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Speaker 1: Well. Yeah, and meanwhile, there's other problems with these wind
23:02
Speaker 1: turbines because over in Victoria, under proposed laws, farmers could
23:06
Speaker 1: be rereaded from building buildings on their own land if
23:10
Speaker 1: it's going to be too close to a wind turbine
23:13
Speaker 1: on their neighbor's joint. This is just an unbelievable abrogation
23:17
Speaker 1: of property rights, isn't it.
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Speaker 8: Well. This has been a huge concern for the whole
23:23
Speaker 8: area for a long time. The fact is that wind
23:27
Speaker 8: farm developments cover a huge area of land. They're often
23:31
Speaker 8: put on host farms at the furthest boundary, which puts
23:36
Speaker 8: them closer to the neighbor. And what they're saying here
23:39
Speaker 8: is the neighbor is not allowed to build anything that
23:43
Speaker 8: might be interfered with by wind turbines that are on
23:46
Speaker 8: a neighboring property. And it's really scandalous for people who
23:52
Speaker 8: find that the neighbor's getting the money and they're getting
23:55
Speaker 8: all harm.
23:57
Speaker 1: Graham, Lord, you're absolutely right, Thank you so much for
23:59
Speaker 1: joining We We're gonna have to leave it there because
24:01
Speaker 1: there's so much else going on. So let's go get
24:03
Speaker 1: an update on the extreme weather we're seeing around the
24:05
Speaker 1: country with Sky News meteorologists tams and Green Tamsen. What
24:09
Speaker 1: is the latest on the weather conditions, particularly with extreme
24:13
Speaker 1: heat and bushfire risk.
24:15
Speaker 9: Yeah, we still have emergency bushfire warnings enforce across Victorian. Actually,
24:20
Speaker 9: the fires burning have produced significant pyrocumulonimbus clouds. These clouds
24:25
Speaker 9: behind me, which are essentially generated by the fires. They're
24:29
Speaker 9: thunderstorm clouds generated by the fires that are producing significant
24:33
Speaker 9: amounts of dry lightning, worsening the conditions, obviously igniting further
24:37
Speaker 9: fires there as well. So some very severe extreme conditions
24:41
Speaker 9: across the south. We do have that extreme fire danger
24:44
Speaker 9: across northern districts of Victoria. There are those two emergency
24:48
Speaker 9: bushfire warnings still in force for today, still burning and
24:52
Speaker 9: uncontained today and tomorrow. We are looking at deteriorating conditions now.
24:57
Speaker 9: Not only are the temperatures up and not from what
24:59
Speaker 9: we seen today with temperatures for Melbourne expected to be
25:02
Speaker 9: up forty two degrees and widely forty to forty five
25:05
Speaker 9: degrees across the state there, but we're also looking at dry,
25:09
Speaker 9: gusty conditions. In fact, pretty windy conditions are expected through
25:13
Speaker 9: the course of tomorrow. We're looking at widespread wind gusts
25:16
Speaker 9: in excess of eighty kilometers an hour, severe damaging winds
25:20
Speaker 9: across the state, really fanning the potential for any flames there.
25:24
Speaker 9: So we're looking at a real nasty situation heading through
25:27
Speaker 9: tomorrow with that fire danger, and as a result, we
25:30
Speaker 9: do have catastrophic fire danger across portions of Victoria, which
25:34
Speaker 9: essentially means that any fires that do start in these
25:37
Speaker 9: areas will be uncontrollable and unpredictable. So the kind of
25:42
Speaker 9: the information is from authorities right now is to leave
25:45
Speaker 9: now if you are in these areas, if you can
25:47
Speaker 9: do so, and if it's obviously is safe to do so.
25:50
Speaker 6: We do also have.
25:51
Speaker 9: Extreme heat wave conditions still in place from Wednesday through
25:54
Speaker 9: to Friday, with the peak of that heat through tomorrow
25:57
Speaker 9: for Victoria. But then in the days to follow we
25:59
Speaker 9: will we'll start to see that heats push eastwards into
26:02
Speaker 9: New South Wales, so we can see Thursday through to
26:04
Speaker 9: Saturday extreme heat wave warnings in place all the way
26:07
Speaker 9: up towards Sydney there, with Saturday being the peak of
26:10
Speaker 9: the heat across New South Wales. And looking at those temperatures,
26:14
Speaker 9: we do have quite high temperatures and also elevated fire
26:17
Speaker 9: danger there as well, so we're still looking at extreme
26:19
Speaker 9: fire danger for New South Wales into Saturday. Now, in
26:23
Speaker 9: terms of those temperatures on Saturday, we're looking at forty
26:26
Speaker 9: two degrees there for Sydney, and also across the board
26:29
Speaker 9: excess of forty degrees further to the west as well,
26:31
Speaker 9: and actually Western Sydney might even get closer to forty
26:34
Speaker 9: five degrees. So some very hot weather on the way
26:38
Speaker 9: for Saturday. But the good news is we will have
26:41
Speaker 9: the reprieve on Sunday, so we do have that cool
26:43
Speaker 9: Sutherly change then sweeping in from the south, impacting Victoria
26:47
Speaker 9: into the Act and New South Wales into Sundays. So
26:50
Speaker 9: between Saturday and Sunday we really will have a dramatic
26:53
Speaker 9: drop off in those temperatures. But first of course, we
26:56
Speaker 9: do have a very few few days of significant weather
27:00
Speaker 9: an extreme heat to get out the way that fast.
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Speaker 1: Wow. Well, thank you very much for that update there,
27:05
Speaker 1: and stay safe everybody in Victoria. Thank you there. Tams
27:07
Speaker 1: and Green Now stick around because after the break there's
27:10
Speaker 1: a lot happening in the United States too. We're going
27:12
Speaker 1: to talk to former Trump Chief of Staff Mick mulvaney
27:15
Speaker 1: on the shocking scenes that are unfolding in Minnesota and
27:19
Speaker 1: what some people are calling an insurrection. Well, it's all
27:27
Speaker 1: kicking off in the US right now, particularly in the
27:30
Speaker 1: state of Minnesota. And a warning some viewers might find
27:33
Speaker 1: what I'm about to show you a little bit distressing.
27:36
Speaker 1: Earlier today, in a suburb of the capital city of Minneapolis,
27:39
Speaker 1: this woman, Renee Good, was shot while protesting against an
27:44
Speaker 1: Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency action. Now, ICE officials say
27:48
Speaker 1: she tried to ram an agent with her car, but
27:51
Speaker 1: her supporters, including the hard left governor Tim Waltz and
27:54
Speaker 1: Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Fray, say otherwise, and they are now
27:58
Speaker 1: threatening a standoff with the Trump administration that could see
28:02
Speaker 1: the National Guard mobilized against federal law enforcement. Here to
28:07
Speaker 1: sort it all out is former Trump chiefs Staff and
28:09
Speaker 1: senior advisor Bondai Partners Mick Mulvaney. Mick, Happy New year,
28:14
Speaker 1: Good to see you. This shooting is now the absolute
28:17
Speaker 1: top story coming out of the US, not just because
28:20
Speaker 1: of what happened, but because of the reaction. Already, protesters
28:24
Speaker 1: are attacking government buildings. Have a look at this, Mick,
28:35
Speaker 1: what's the latest on what's happening here?
28:38
Speaker 10: Yeah, James, this is a very volatile situation. When the
28:42
Speaker 10: governor of Minnesota referenced the National Guard. What I think
28:45
Speaker 10: folks in Australia have to understand is that the president
28:47
Speaker 10: controls the ICE and other federal agencies, but typically there
28:51
Speaker 10: are exceptions, but governor's control generally the National Guard. And
28:55
Speaker 10: if Tim Walls, the Democrat Senator of Minnesota, is to
28:58
Speaker 10: call up the National Guard, you could, in theory and
29:02
Speaker 10: maybe very much in practice, have a situation where there
29:04
Speaker 10: are federal law enforcement and state sort of quasi military
29:09
Speaker 10: on the ground going against each other under certain circumstances.
29:13
Speaker 10: This is a very very unusual and again volatile situation.
29:17
Speaker 10: It is a tragic, tragic sort of occurrence, and it's
29:21
Speaker 10: not really clear yet exactly what happened. It's going to
29:24
Speaker 10: be a long time, I think before we know who's
29:26
Speaker 10: at fault. There's a lot to sort of go through,
29:28
Speaker 10: a lot of videos to review and so forth. But
29:31
Speaker 10: this is to say it's an incendiary type of situation
29:34
Speaker 10: as an understatement.
29:35
Speaker 1: And of course you know Minneapolis has that long history
29:38
Speaker 1: with this sort of protest. Of course, it's where the
29:39
Speaker 1: George Floyd protest kicked off when George Floyd was killed
29:42
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty. But I'm glad you talked about this
29:45
Speaker 1: standoff here because Governor Tim Waltz, and we know him
29:48
Speaker 1: from the Kamala Harris Tim Wallt's campaign, he is really
29:51
Speaker 1: trying to turn this into a standoff with the Feds.
29:54
Speaker 1: Have a listen to this.
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Speaker 11: Donald Trump and Christy Nome, you've done enough. More important
30:00
Speaker 11: than Minnesota and safety. I've issued a warning order to
30:03
Speaker 11: prepare the Minnesota National Guard. We have soldiers in training
30:06
Speaker 11: and prepared to be deployed if necessary.
30:09
Speaker 1: But not only that, Mickey's also trying to turn this
30:12
Speaker 1: possibly into a national movement. Here's what else he had
30:14
Speaker 1: to say.
30:15
Speaker 11: If you're in Portland, or you're in la or you're
30:17
Speaker 11: in Chicago, or you're wherever they're coming next, stand with us,
30:23
Speaker 11: stand with us against this.
30:26
Speaker 1: Look, Mick, this sound starts to sound I hate to
30:29
Speaker 1: say it, but a little bit insurrectionary here.
30:32
Speaker 2: Yeah.
30:33
Speaker 10: Again, there's a lot of variables here, a lot of
30:35
Speaker 10: different dynamics of play. Keep in mind Tim Walls, the
30:38
Speaker 10: governor of Minnesota and the former Democrat nominee for Vice
30:41
Speaker 10: president just announced this week that he will no longer
30:45
Speaker 10: be standing for re election for governor of Minnesota because
30:48
Speaker 10: of a scandal involving a federal fraud in his state
30:53
Speaker 10: to the tunes of billions of dollars. That's hard to
30:56
Speaker 10: imagine a governor not running for reelection because of a
30:58
Speaker 10: fraud scandal. That's just how large that particular issue is.
31:03
Speaker 10: And you cannot help but wonder whether or not Governor
31:05
Speaker 10: Wallas is trying to figure out a way to sort
31:07
Speaker 10: of salvage his reputation. You leave the office under the
31:10
Speaker 10: cloud of scandal. What a great way for a progressive
31:14
Speaker 10: Democrat to try and salvage his reputation, but pick a
31:16
Speaker 10: fight with Donald Trump. So there's a lot of other
31:19
Speaker 10: sort of dynamics at play here. Again that adds to
31:22
Speaker 10: all of the volatility.
31:23
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, and including that volatility too. We're seeing reports,
31:26
Speaker 1: I'm seeing reports that there are now organized protest movements.
31:30
Speaker 1: Antifa may be involved in trying to start some protest
31:33
Speaker 1: actions in Minnesota. It feels like, in possibly trying to
31:39
Speaker 1: distract from his own political troubles and the democrats own
31:42
Speaker 1: political troubles, he is really playing with fire here he is.
31:48
Speaker 10: Calling up the National Guard. If he were to do
31:50
Speaker 10: that again, He's not done it yet. I don't remember
31:53
Speaker 10: that happening in my adult lifetime and in my lifetime,
31:55
Speaker 10: where the federal government wants to do one thing and
31:57
Speaker 10: the governor wants to do the exact opposite, and in
32:00
Speaker 10: order to counterbalance that brings up the State National Guard.
32:05
Speaker 10: I'm not sure how that even plays out, James. I mean,
32:07
Speaker 10: will the National Guard prevent the federal ICE agents from
32:11
Speaker 10: doing their job?
32:12
Speaker 7: Kemp on.
32:12
Speaker 10: The Federal ICE agents are there to enforce the immigrations
32:15
Speaker 10: and customs rules. That's what I ce ICE stands for
32:20
Speaker 10: Immigration and Customs enforcement, so that they're enforcing federal law.
32:24
Speaker 10: And I don't remember a time in my lifetime when
32:26
Speaker 10: the State Guard might be called up to prevent federal
32:29
Speaker 10: agents from enforcing federal law. It's very much sort of
32:34
Speaker 10: a new frontier here because we don't really know how
32:36
Speaker 10: to deal with this, and I hope it.
32:38
Speaker 7: Doesn't come to that.
32:39
Speaker 10: I hope that things are able to calm down over
32:41
Speaker 10: the next couple of days. The DHS Secretary Christy Dome
32:45
Speaker 10: gave what I thought was a really good press conference
32:47
Speaker 10: today Her tone was calm and measured, and I think
32:52
Speaker 10: that's exactly what is called for right now. I think
32:55
Speaker 10: the last thing we need is folks looking to escalate
32:58
Speaker 10: this situation.
32:59
Speaker 1: Well, you know that question of escalation. Where do you
33:02
Speaker 1: think this is going to go with the White House?
33:04
Speaker 1: Because I'm sure you know Donald Trump, who's had a
33:07
Speaker 1: pretty good week here with the capture of Nicholas Maduro,
33:10
Speaker 1: with the seizure of that Russian tanker successfully, he's been
33:14
Speaker 1: looking pretty good. He's had quite a number of wins here,
33:17
Speaker 1: but this could throw him off track. Having worked for him,
33:21
Speaker 1: where do you think he is going to take this?
33:23
Speaker 1: Is he going to be up for taking up a
33:26
Speaker 1: fight with Tim Waltz and escalating it further? Oh?
33:29
Speaker 10: Sure, I mean that's what Donald Trump likes to do.
33:32
Speaker 10: He likes to fight with people. He likes to divide
33:34
Speaker 10: and conquer. That sort of how he's won the two
33:36
Speaker 10: elections that he has won. It's his management style. And
33:40
Speaker 10: keep in mind, what is the administration on the other
33:42
Speaker 10: side of the coin. So we've already talked about Tim
33:44
Speaker 10: Walls and how he's handling this. What is the administration doing?
33:47
Speaker 10: Despite Christinenhomes excellent press conference, today, what was her message
33:50
Speaker 10: that this was domestic terrorism. Not ice, by the way,
33:54
Speaker 10: but the protester who was shot to death was engaged
33:57
Speaker 10: in domestic terrorism. I'm not sure that's going to be
34:01
Speaker 10: a very easy thing to sell to the American people
34:03
Speaker 10: in Charlottesville. When the guy drove his car into a
34:06
Speaker 10: crowd of people trying to kill people, that's domestic terrorism.
34:10
Speaker 10: When Charlie Kirk was assassinated, that's domestic terrorism.
34:13
Speaker 7: I'm not sure an ordinary.
34:14
Speaker 10: American will watch these videos and say that this was
34:17
Speaker 10: domestic terrorism. Yes, the woman apparently hit a nice agent
34:21
Speaker 10: with her car as she was apparently trying to get away,
34:24
Speaker 10: and it seems like at first blush so far that
34:27
Speaker 10: the agent was legally justified in what he did. That
34:31
Speaker 10: being said, I don't think it's going to rise to
34:33
Speaker 10: level where most people think the woman was engaged in
34:36
Speaker 10: domestic terrorism against federal agents as part of this. So
34:40
Speaker 10: it's the administration is walking a sort of a fine
34:44
Speaker 10: line as well.
34:44
Speaker 1: At the same time, Mick Malvadiy, We're going to have
34:47
Speaker 1: to leave it there, but thank you so much for
34:48
Speaker 1: walking us through. This isn't absolutely fascinating and as you say,
34:51
Speaker 1: really explosive situation, Nick Lavaty.
34:54
Speaker 7: Thanks so much. Thankes, SAMs.
34:57
Speaker 1: Stick around because the Trump administration has flipped the food
35:01
Speaker 1: pyramid upside down and guess what, it's good news for
35:04
Speaker 1: US carnivores. Plus an arson attack leaves Berlin residence in
35:08
Speaker 1: the dark committed by the left in their fight against
35:13
Speaker 1: fossil fuels. Stick around after the break, Welcome back to
35:21
Speaker 1: the program. I'm James Morrow, filling in for Peter Kredline.
35:24
Speaker 1: Joining me now our Sky News contributor James Bolt and
35:27
Speaker 1: research fellow at the Institute for Public Affairs Mia Schlickt. Guys,
35:31
Speaker 1: everything you thought or had been told previously about eating
35:35
Speaker 1: apparently has been flipped on its head. The United States
35:38
Speaker 1: has just overhauled its food pyramid and finally decided to
35:43
Speaker 1: place protein and healthy fats over carbohydrates. But there was
35:47
Speaker 1: a very funny movement when US Health Secretary Robert F.
35:50
Speaker 1: Kennedy Junior was announcing the changes. Have a look at this.
35:54
Speaker 3: We only released these earlier two days earlier.
35:58
Speaker 7: I'm sorry it's.
36:03
Speaker 8: Also high in protein.
36:06
Speaker 1: I love that Darth case ringtat is a duck. James Bolt.
36:10
Speaker 1: Let me go to you first on this Here we
36:12
Speaker 1: all kind of knew instinctively that this whole idea that
36:15
Speaker 1: we should be eating tons of grains and carbohydrates wasn't good,
36:18
Speaker 1: didn't we.
36:20
Speaker 12: I do find it quite hard to trust people that
36:22
Speaker 12: have comical ringtones. Sorry, I've got a lot of conflicting
36:25
Speaker 12: emotions right here. But I'll tell you what I've been told. Literally,
36:29
Speaker 12: everything is both good for me and can kill me.
36:32
Speaker 12: I mean, coffee is like shroding is beverage. It's both
36:34
Speaker 12: killing me and keeping me alive at the same time.
36:37
Speaker 12: Mate's good, then it's not good. Now carbohydrates are good,
36:39
Speaker 12: and now sugar's bad.
36:41
Speaker 7: I'll tell you what. It always comes back to.
36:43
Speaker 12: If you're eating more calories than you're exerting, that's not
36:45
Speaker 12: a great thing if you want to keep fit.
36:47
Speaker 7: I'll be sticking to that one.
36:49
Speaker 1: Miah. It's interesting though, because of course that American food
36:51
Speaker 1: pyramid originally, which was so grain heavy, was the product
36:55
Speaker 1: of lobbying from the grain lobby back in the Knickson administration.
36:59
Speaker 1: Is this se what happens when politics starts to interfere
37:03
Speaker 1: with actually true expert science.
37:07
Speaker 6: Well, I think that's right.
37:08
Speaker 13: I think it's quite interesting to see a number of
37:10
Speaker 13: people now kind of freak out. They're in the zone
37:12
Speaker 13: of their whole lives. Have been told to trust the experts,
37:14
Speaker 13: do what the experts tell you, but now they'ren't like
37:17
Speaker 13: who the experts are. They're a bit stuck and they
37:18
Speaker 13: don't know what to do. But look, I think this
37:20
Speaker 13: is a great call. Good on the Trump administration. Not
37:23
Speaker 13: only are they pro octane, they're also pro protein people.
37:26
Speaker 6: They've got a finger on the poles.
37:27
Speaker 13: People want to be eating more steak less baked beans.
37:30
Speaker 13: Unfortunately here in Australia, with the way our economy is going,
37:33
Speaker 13: we might be stuck on baked.
37:34
Speaker 6: Beans a little bit longer.
37:36
Speaker 13: But if Trump can get the economy under control in
37:38
Speaker 13: America and they can all afford more steak dinners, and
37:41
Speaker 13: good for them.
37:42
Speaker 1: Good for them absolutely.
37:43
Speaker 7: Hey.
37:43
Speaker 1: On another note that's a little bit related actually, because
37:46
Speaker 1: it's about you know, greenies and things like that. The
37:49
Speaker 1: shocking story out of Berlin where forty five thousand households
37:54
Speaker 1: in Berlin have been left without power after a far
37:58
Speaker 1: left extremist group carried out an arson attack on high
38:01
Speaker 1: voltage cables near the Lichtorfeld power station southwest of the
38:06
Speaker 1: capital of James Bolt. This is obscene to me. It
38:09
Speaker 1: is freezing cold winter in Berlin. Tens of thousands of
38:12
Speaker 1: people have been left without power by let's call it
38:15
Speaker 1: what it is, a terrorist attack, and yet is getting
38:17
Speaker 1: no attention around the world. James Bolt had a right
38:20
Speaker 1: wing group done something like this, we'd never hear the
38:23
Speaker 1: end of it.
38:23
Speaker 12: Yeah, I think this The grip that put out Sorry,
38:27
Speaker 12: the cook that committed that attack put out a statement
38:29
Speaker 12: in which they said, well, we're aiming it towards the
38:32
Speaker 12: wealthy suburbs, and they apologized nicely to less wealthy people
38:37
Speaker 12: that would get caught up in it, but they said
38:38
Speaker 12: that it was a price they needed to pay to
38:41
Speaker 12: target the wealthy. What an absolute clear example of how
38:45
Speaker 12: the radical left view individual people. We are not individuals,
38:48
Speaker 12: We are not worthy of respect. We are all pawns
38:51
Speaker 12: in a class game, and some people are going to
38:53
Speaker 12: have to be hurt if you know the justice is
38:57
Speaker 12: to be said. But I'll tell you this, if you
38:59
Speaker 12: are a radical and you are thinking of making it
39:01
Speaker 12: very very hard for people to turn on their homes,
39:04
Speaker 12: do not do it as a free says, and become
39:06
Speaker 12: a politician and get paid for it.
39:08
Speaker 1: Absolutely right, Mia, it is appalling though that we haven't
39:11
Speaker 1: heard much about this, you know, in the rest of
39:14
Speaker 1: the world, because it does seem to me that this
39:16
Speaker 1: is where the bias of the media comes in, because
39:20
Speaker 1: you know, on a certain level, we've seen it the
39:22
Speaker 1: way they cover climate protests. We've seen the way they
39:25
Speaker 1: adored Greta Tunnberg. They kind of agree with this, Well,
39:31
Speaker 1: that's right.
39:32
Speaker 13: You can just see how they hold Greta Thunberg up
39:34
Speaker 13: on this pedestal despite all the chaos shes cause. And
39:36
Speaker 13: I think you're right in saying that if this was
39:38
Speaker 13: a right group who cause trouble like this, it would
39:41
Speaker 13: be all over the media.
39:42
Speaker 6: I'd be front page even here of our ABC.
39:45
Speaker 13: But I do think this was some of the most
39:47
Speaker 13: dysfunctional political activism I have seen in a very very
39:51
Speaker 13: long time. As James said, they came out and said
39:54
Speaker 13: basically that it wasn't their intention to hurt any of
39:57
Speaker 13: the lower class that were going for the ruling class,
40:00
Speaker 13: and it just shows how these groups have no idea
40:03
Speaker 13: how the world actually works.
40:05
Speaker 6: When you dismantle the energy system.
40:06
Speaker 13: When you have an energy system that doesn't work, the
40:09
Speaker 13: people that hurt the hardest and first is the working class.
40:13
Speaker 13: It's not the rich, and we've seen that here in
40:15
Speaker 13: Australia with our energy system that's quickly crumbling before our eyes.
40:19
Speaker 13: It is working class families who are having to make
40:22
Speaker 13: the decision between.
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Speaker 6: Heating and eating.
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Speaker 13: It is our farming communities who are having their properties
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Speaker 13: and their businesses destroyed are all in the name of
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Speaker 13: the renewables roll out.
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Speaker 6: Those are the ones who are hurting first.
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Speaker 13: And it's political groups like this who are elitist and
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Speaker 13: they're completely out of touch.
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Speaker 1: Well, and you know the thing is anybody who is
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Speaker 1: not poor they hate and it's actually kind of refreshing
40:43
Speaker 1: to have them be honest about it. Hey, James, this
40:45
Speaker 1: is somebody asked about this real quick here. LIBRA has
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Speaker 1: again fallen short of housing targets, with a new analysis
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Speaker 1: saying Australia's going to miss targets by more than fifty
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Speaker 1: thousand homes, deepening the affordability crisis.
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Speaker 7: Again.
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Speaker 1: This just strikes me that why, hey, does this government
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Speaker 1: keep insisting on pumping the country full of more and
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Speaker 1: more people, most of them without the skills that we
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Speaker 1: supposedly need in the face of a housing crisis and
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Speaker 1: a social cohesion crisis.
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Speaker 7: I think that's one. Yeah, that is an important part
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Speaker 7: of it.
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Speaker 12: But I swear this headline comes out every single month,
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Speaker 12: maybe every six months, that whatever target labor is said
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Speaker 12: for itself, it hasn't built on housing. The reality is
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Speaker 12: it is far too hard to build new houses in
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Speaker 12: Australia and to build apartment blocks in the cities. And
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Speaker 12: until the regulation is wound back and until it's easy
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Speaker 12: to build, we're just going to be stuck in a
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Speaker 12: lap where perspective harm buys like myself are just priced
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Speaker 12: out of the market in definitely.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, James, but you know, if they're going
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Speaker 1: to keep building all these apartment blocks, I wish they
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Speaker 1: didn't have to be so ugly. James bolt mea schlick.
41:47
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for your time. Now stick around
41:49
Speaker 1: because we've got gb News as Patrick Christy joining me
41:52
Speaker 1: from London to breakdown how DEI rules are tying up
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Speaker 1: UK police. You wouldn't read about it much more as well.
42:01
Speaker 1: Coming up after the break, don't go away, We'll be going
42:06
Speaker 1: back to the program now over the UK, where a
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Speaker 1: review has revealed that over one hundred officers and staff
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Speaker 1: at the Metropolitan Police were wrongly hired, including two get
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Speaker 1: this serial rapists. Thanks to a relaxation of the force's
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Speaker 1: recruitment process, a vetting panel, which partly aimed to improve diversity,
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Speaker 1: which of course we all know is our strength, overturned
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Speaker 1: more than one hundred previously denied applications, including the application
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Speaker 1: of a man who was alleged to have sexually assaulted
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Speaker 1: a child. Joining me now to talk about this and
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Speaker 1: more is star host of gb News, Patrick Christie's Patrick,
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Speaker 1: this is a shocking story. Just when I thought these
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Speaker 1: things couldn't get any.
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Speaker 14: Worse, Absolutely bonkers, this is jaw dropping, is mind boggling,
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Speaker 14: and surely this has to be the final nail in
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Speaker 14: the coffin for the Diversity Brigade. Sadly it probably won't.
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Speaker 14: So the Metropolitan Police Force, a force that's already been
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Speaker 14: blighted by a lot of scandal, inaction, huge crime waves,
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Speaker 14: all of this stuff, they decided that the best thing
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Speaker 14: for them to do was to introduce essentially diversity quotas.
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Speaker 14: The problem for them was that they didn't meet their
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Speaker 14: diversity quotas, so they went back to look at a
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Speaker 14: load of applicants who had failed to become police officers.
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Speaker 14: They'd failed, and they thought we'll give them another go,
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Speaker 14: and then they let them in, and unfortunately for the
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Speaker 14: Metropolitan Police and unfortunately for all of us, that included
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Speaker 14: people like a man who is now serving seventeen and
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Speaker 14: a half years in prison for thirteen counts of rape
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Speaker 14: and several against a child under the age of thirteen
43:42
Speaker 14: as well. And the even more damning thing here is
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Speaker 14: that he had already been investigated for pedophilia, but that
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Speaker 14: case was dropped. He'd failed a decision initially to let
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Speaker 14: him into the police because he'd failed their background checks.
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Speaker 14: They decided to relax that let him in singularly because
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Speaker 14: he happens to be a black man and they wanted
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Speaker 14: to hit their diversity quotas. It is astonishing. In all,
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Speaker 14: one hundred and fourteen decisions were overruled and they were
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Speaker 14: allowed to come into the police force. Twenty five of
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Speaker 14: them involved going on to commit criminal offense's or misconduct.
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Speaker 14: So we literally, just for the sake of ticking diversity boxes,
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Speaker 14: employed people who ended up committing some of the most
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Speaker 14: horrendous crimes in the police force. I mean, you couldn't
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Speaker 14: make it up really.
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Speaker 1: Well, I mean you couldn't. But of course it's the truth.
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Speaker 1: And I always love having guests like yourself from the
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Speaker 1: UK over on this program with my programs, because this
44:44
Speaker 1: is a warning system for Australians that this is where
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Speaker 1: we are heading. Which brings me to the next topic here,
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Speaker 1: which is the UK's Home Secretary, Shabab Mood, who has
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Speaker 1: been accused of acute of hoodwinking Britons after she threw
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Speaker 1: in the Trump style visa crackdown on a trio of
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Speaker 1: African nations who refused to take back citizens that were deported.
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Speaker 1: But it doesn't sound like that quite happened. Patrick, tell
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Speaker 1: us a bit more about this one.
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Speaker 14: I mean, this is utterly laughable. So Shabaama Mood is
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Speaker 14: our Home Secretary. She threatened some African countries and said, hey,
45:21
Speaker 14: if you don't take back your were llegal migrants, we're
45:24
Speaker 14: going to block visas legal visas for you. She said,
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Speaker 14: the days of Britain being a soft touch are over. Okay, great?
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Speaker 14: What countries did she go for? Did she talk about Somalia,
45:34
Speaker 14: did shok about Eritrea, Sudan, Nigeria?
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Speaker 10: No?
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Speaker 14: She went for Angola, Namibia, in the Democratic Republic of Congo.
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Speaker 14: In total, Angola and Namibia had three illegal migrants into
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Speaker 14: the UK in the last few years. They have now
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Speaker 14: agreed to take them back, but the Democratic Republic of
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Speaker 14: Congo is now playing hardball with Great Britain. There are
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Speaker 14: eleven illegal migrants apparently that came over last year from
45:59
Speaker 14: the DRC and they're refusing to take them back. So
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Speaker 14: absolutely astonishing this. It turns out that Modern Britain has
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Speaker 14: absolutely no leverage over the Democratic Republic of Congo because
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Speaker 14: the DRC knows that they can just appeal things in
46:14
Speaker 14: human international human rights course. I mean, it is an
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Speaker 14: absolute shocker of a story. It's completely not worth the
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Speaker 14: paper it's written on in terms of these threats to
46:23
Speaker 14: these countries. Meanwhile, we've had around forty odd thousand illegal
46:27
Speaker 14: migrants arrive in Britain last year. We've already welcomed welcomed
46:30
Speaker 14: our first batch of illegal migrants across the Channel so
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Speaker 14: far this year. It is And do you know that
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Speaker 14: fifty percent, fifty percent of all new homes in Britain
46:41
Speaker 14: by twenty thirty will be occupied by newly arrived migrants. Yeah,
46:46
Speaker 14: obviously loads of those will be legal, don't get me wrong,
46:49
Speaker 14: but still pretty damning situation when you think that you
46:52
Speaker 14: know We're not. We're obviously not really in control of
46:55
Speaker 14: our borders, are we. I mean, it's an absolute nightmare.
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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, exactly, and that's why I say that things
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Speaker 1: like the Courts of Human Rights and also the Refugee
47:02
Speaker 1: Conventions need to be strongly reconsidered, including here in Australia. Hey,
47:06
Speaker 1: just quickly, Patrick, tell me about this proposal to lower
47:11
Speaker 1: the blood alcohol limit for drink driving in England and
47:15
Speaker 1: Whales and how even a single pipe now could prevent
47:19
Speaker 1: you from getting behind the wheel. A lot of people
47:21
Speaker 1: are saying this is a war on traditional country pubs,
47:26
Speaker 1: and God knows England needs to save these as much
47:30
Speaker 1: as they can. What's going on here?
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Speaker 14: Yeah, look, just quickly. Left wing socialists don't like fun
47:36
Speaker 14: and they certainly don't like British culture, which means that
47:38
Speaker 14: pubs are firmly in their cross has. At the moment,
47:41
Speaker 14: you can have about two pints in drive now. What
47:43
Speaker 14: they want to do is make it so that you
47:45
Speaker 14: can have basically less than one pint and drive, which
47:47
Speaker 14: will stop you going to the pub. It's not really
47:49
Speaker 14: about drink driving and road safety. They already do this
47:52
Speaker 14: in Scotland. The figures show that road traffic collisions went up.
47:55
Speaker 14: They also show that alcohol consumption remain the same. People
47:58
Speaker 14: just stop going to the pub and so this is
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Speaker 14: going to end up being the death of pubs, especially
48:03
Speaker 14: in rural areas and labour basically the stanleycues of like
48:06
Speaker 14: I said, going to war with pubs. And I do
48:09
Speaker 14: think that maybe, like every single supervillain, there's an origin story,
48:12
Speaker 14: isn't that Will Cirkis Starmer was very famously booted out
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Speaker 14: of a pub during COVID by a landlord who said,
48:18
Speaker 14: get that man out of my pub. And I can't
48:21
Speaker 14: help but wonder whether or not ever since then he's
48:22
Speaker 14: thought I'm going to come for you. But they don't
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Speaker 14: understand British coach, this labor government, they don't understand British life,
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Speaker 14: and they don't they don't want to see us at
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Speaker 14: carry pub there also, yeah, leave it to you.
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Speaker 1: Look, I'm going to let you go to the pub now.
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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining me and explaining this,
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Speaker 1: and you know, we got to save our pubs, both
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Speaker 1: in Britain and in Australia because that's a pretty important
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Speaker 1: gathering place. Thank you so much, Patrick Christy for your
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Speaker 1: time and thank you for your time. Stay tuned here
48:48
Speaker 1: because the Bull Report with James McPherson is coming up
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Speaker 1: now