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The Bolt Report | 12 November · The Bolt Report

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Speaker 1: He's the gold.
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Speaker 2: Perform it tonight, Anthony, I an easy tells an untruth
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Speaker 2: as is caught out plotting the next election. And how
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Speaker 2: did more illegal immigrants land here without our officials even noticing?
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Speaker 2: Plus Donald Trump's form of spokesman says Kevin Rudd had
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Speaker 2: better say sorry to Trump or pack his bags. He
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Speaker 2: might be finished as ambassador. And our defense force doesn't
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Speaker 2: have the men or the weapons to fight China, that
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Speaker 2: says it. We'll fight the climate, aren't we lucky? But first, then,
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Speaker 2: speaking of this woke craziness that's all around us, Look, honestly,
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Speaker 2: this woke madness has gone too far, I mean dangerously far.
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Speaker 2: Now I've got victorious europe Justice Commission, sort of average
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Speaker 2: little Truth and Justice Commission, wanting to drag in Jamie Oliver,
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Speaker 2: the Select buddy chef, to tell him how to write
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Speaker 2: about aborigines. Now this is just breathtaking arrogance. This government
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Speaker 2: appointed race body, which actually has the power to subpoena
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Speaker 2: documents and summon witnesses, is now instructing authors on what
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Speaker 2: novels they may write and how they must write them.
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Speaker 2: I mean, Jamie Oliver is actually English decided to write
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Speaker 2: a children's book called Billy and the Epic Escape. I've
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Speaker 2: only read several pages of it and looking as well.
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Speaker 2: It's just trying to please kids with the adventure stories
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Speaker 2: sprinkled with food tips and a woo message about keeping
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Speaker 2: the world in balance. That are going to say it's
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Speaker 2: a plotting read. It's not really JK. Rowling or Tolkien
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Speaker 2: or Robbie Lewis Stevenson's. But that's not why Oliver and
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Speaker 2: his publishers have, six months after the book was published,
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Speaker 2: removed it from sale, saying oh sorry, sorry, sorry, that's
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Speaker 2: because some Aboriginal activists now have now taken offense. See.
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Speaker 2: Oliver's book is set mostly in Britain, but in one
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Speaker 2: chapter he writes about an Aboriginal girl in Alice Springs
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Speaker 2: living with a foster family, and she's then abducted. Now
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Speaker 2: the Aboriginal Torris Rate Islander Education Corporation was apparently big
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Speaker 2: Wheel now says Oliver's book must be banned because it's disrespectful. Apparently,
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Speaker 2: Oliver writing about an Aboriginal girl contributes, in its fevered
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Speaker 2: imagination to the erasire trivialization and stereotyping of First Nations
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Speaker 2: people and experiences And then now long comes Sue Anne Hunter.
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Speaker 2: She identifies as Aboriginal and is Deputy Commissioner of the
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Speaker 2: europe Justice Commission, and she said it was insensitive for
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Speaker 2: Oliver to include themes of child stealing given the painful
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Speaker 2: historical context of the stolen generations. And that's let's killed
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Speaker 2: Oliver's book. So scenes then that Oliver should have included
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Speaker 2: in his Children's story are rant about the stolen generations,
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Speaker 2: even though no quarters actually identified child stolen by racist officials.
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Speaker 2: Just for being Aboriginal should have made it even more fictional,
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Speaker 2: I guess now. Yes, there's also a complaint that Oliver
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Speaker 2: had his Aboriginal characters speak the wrong Aboriginal language for
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Speaker 2: Alice Springs what we do. Even weirder this Sue An
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Speaker 2: Hunter in her own commission here, and she has called
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Speaker 2: on the Great Bungle, you know, the mystical wedge tailed eagle,
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Speaker 2: called on him for guidance. And yet she's actually complained
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Speaker 2: that Oliver has stereotyped Aboriginal children by saying his heroine
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Speaker 2: was more connected with nature. I actually thought that was
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Speaker 2: the worite thing to say these days, closer to nature.
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Speaker 2: Just yesterday, our very Governor General told the Remembrance Day
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Speaker 2: ceremony in Acat Canberra, Aborigines had a deeper connection to
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Speaker 2: the land. You can't win with these people. A commissioner
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Speaker 2: Hunter though, really went too far. She'll say it, she said.
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Speaker 2: The most troubling aspects of Oliver's book include the complete
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Speaker 2: lack of consultation with First Nations peoples, despite the book
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Speaker 2: heavily featuring their culture and experiences. You got asked, what
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Speaker 2: on earth is this? What fresh hell? An author must now,
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Speaker 2: a foreign author that must now consult Race activists in
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Speaker 2: Australia before writing even a children's book to see what
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Speaker 2: is allowed to say and what he must include about
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Speaker 2: any Aboriginal characters reference to culture. This is tyrannical. Yet,
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Speaker 2: to his shame, Jamie Oliver he pulled his book from
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Speaker 2: sale and apologized for not writing more about the so
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Speaker 2: called Stolen Generation, saying I'm devastated to of course the
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Speaker 2: fence and apologize wholeheartedly. It was never my intention to
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Speaker 2: misinterpret this deeply painful issue, but that still wasn't crawling
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Speaker 2: enough to please the eurrop Justice Commission. It's now our
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Speaker 2: so Oliver to come before it as part of a
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Speaker 2: learning and healing process, to learn more about Aborigines, to
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Speaker 2: well in fact, the reality, be told what he must
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Speaker 2: believe and write. Now, I would have thought this imposition
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Speaker 2: on an author's freedom would cause a stink in the
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Speaker 2: literary world. But I mean, you know, shouldn't an author
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Speaker 2: be free to dream and to write and to leave
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Speaker 2: it to readers themselves to decide if the result speaks
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Speaker 2: to them, if if he's carried it off. But the
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Speaker 2: work rot has gone so far. Even in the Australian
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Speaker 2: newspaper I read this astonishing defense of banning Oliver's book
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Speaker 2: of making authors get permission from race activists literally. Editor
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Speaker 2: Caroline Overington writes, it's pretty much accepted in Australia these
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Speaker 2: days days that no book can be written about Indigenous
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Speaker 2: Australians without indigenous inboot. Really, really, and it gets worse.
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Speaker 2: The same rules, she says, apply to Australian filmmaking. I
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Speaker 2: didn't know this First Nations First is a key part
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Speaker 2: of the Alberti's of Government's cultural policy. Never would Patricia
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Speaker 2: Wrightson's award winning children's books based on dreaming stories get
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Speaker 2: published today. She might have been well meaning or well intentioned,
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Speaker 2: but she was white but she was white. But Jamie
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Speaker 2: Oliver is white. Tell me an Aboriginal writer writing about
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Speaker 2: white people those the same rule apply to them? Or
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Speaker 2: is this just a racist the gotcha game? You know? No,
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Speaker 2: you black authors, you cannot write about whites until you
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Speaker 2: consult Anglo Saxons until you get the nod from the
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Speaker 2: White Pride Alliance or something. Waitness is killing free speech,
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Speaker 2: it's killing imagination, it's killing truth. It's got to be destroyed.
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Speaker 2: But to the politics, Santey Albanezi, Look, it's all out
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Speaker 2: of ideas, and today it looked like you stopped governing.
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Speaker 2: Last month alban held an unofficial campaign launch already in Adelaide.
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Speaker 2: Get today had the heart to get upset when Jonas
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Speaker 2: asked them, well when would this election actually be?
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Speaker 1: Look, I'm focused on governing. That's what I'm focused on
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Speaker 1: and I'll leave the speculation to others.
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Speaker 2: Oh really, well, Albanes is very focused indeed on the
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Speaker 2: election date. That's the truth. And that became when the
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Speaker 2: West Australian Premier, Roger Cook said had taken legal advice
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Speaker 2: and changing the date of his state's election, which was
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Speaker 2: locked in for March eight. And why are the change? Well,
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Speaker 2: obviously because Cook would rather go have Albanza go first
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Speaker 2: and take the heat from angry voters. And it seems
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Speaker 2: that March is actually Albanese's preferred date or around the range.
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Speaker 2: Then again, it was very hard today trying to get
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Speaker 2: Albanese to even admit that, yes, he had talked about
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Speaker 2: just this with Western Australia's leader. This is what Albanese
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Speaker 2: said at his first press conference, this morning's.
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Speaker 1: Funny look about the election, the essentially moving the days action.
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Speaker 2: No no. But at a second press conference, Albanese was
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Speaker 2: forced to come clean.
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Speaker 3: Can you confinu you have not had to comment how
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Speaker 3: to discussion with WA Premier Roger Cook about the WA election.
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Speaker 4: I'm fugging we know when the WA election is.
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Speaker 5: It's on March eight, and I have had a discussion
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Speaker 5: about the WAO election obviously with him.
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Speaker 2: And to make it all the bigger joke, here's Albanizi
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Speaker 2: today claiming he's focused on governing, not that a next
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Speaker 2: election at a press conference two of them. In fact,
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Speaker 2: we're as announcing two new Labor candids for that election
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Speaker 2: while fending off Green protesters.
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Speaker 1: Yeah sure, sure, okay, far.
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Speaker 6: Deep your promise, no new excesion, deep your promise, no
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Speaker 6: new exceedures, deep your promise, no your excess.
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Speaker 2: And just the top off Albany is his bad day
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Speaker 2: highlight and highlighting too. How he's run out of ideas.
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Speaker 2: The latest Australian Unity Well Being Index survey done with
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Speaker 2: Speaking University, This latest one today shows Australian satisfaction with
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Speaker 2: life is at its lowest level in twenty one years.
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Speaker 2: Never in the life of the survey of Australia's being
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Speaker 2: this unhappy. How can the government win when voters are
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Speaker 2: so sour? And it was the same story with the US,
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Speaker 2: You mate, no, I mean Donald Trump won the US
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Speaker 2: election last week by asking Americans if they were better
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Speaker 2: off than they were four years ago, and Peter Duntin
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Speaker 2: today was very happy to make that link.
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Speaker 3: That families in the US are hurting under higher inflation
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Speaker 3: and unsurprisingly that's exactly what's happening in our country. Incumbent
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Speaker 3: governments that don't read the room and don't understand the
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Speaker 3: priorities that people have will be punished for it. I
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Speaker 3: just don't think any Australian can say that they're better
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Speaker 3: off today than they were two and a half years ago.
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Speaker 2: Joins Tuesday regular Matt Canavan, the National MP and former
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Speaker 2: Resources Minister Matt good to see you in March election
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Speaker 2: seems very much indeed on the Prime Minister's mind.
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Speaker 7: Well, it couldn't come soon enough, Andrew. I just think
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Speaker 7: bring it on people. I think a feeling a lack
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Speaker 7: of leadership in this country. The Prime Minister doesn't seem
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Speaker 7: to have any answers for the shocking decline in our
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Speaker 7: living standards we have suffered. Australians have suffered the biggest
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Speaker 7: drop in living standards in the developed world since COVID,
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Speaker 7: since this government came to power, and yet this last
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Speaker 7: week or so, the government's focus has been banning YouTube
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Speaker 7: for kids. I mean, I think we deserve better leadership
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Speaker 7: in this country to tackle the major issues we face.
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Speaker 7: We've had a collective meltdown over the last week about
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Speaker 7: Donald Trump potentially imposing a ten percent tariff on Australians
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Speaker 7: when we now pay energy prices three times the amount
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Speaker 7: that the US pays for What about that energy tariff?
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Speaker 7: I mean, that's a much bigger impost on the Australian
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Speaker 7: economy than anything Trump will do through trade policy. Yet
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Speaker 7: there's no effort here from this government to revise they're
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Speaker 7: clearly failing energy policy settings that have led to higher
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Speaker 7: power price despite their promises that they would cut power
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Speaker 7: bills by two hundred and seventy five dollars. There is
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Speaker 7: just a total lack of leadership in this country. There's
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Speaker 7: no plan, there's no ideas about how to make people's
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Speaker 7: lives better. People are struggling right now and they deserve
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Speaker 7: a government that actually has a plan to control government spending,
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Speaker 7: to control our migration intake and allow Ustrainers to have
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Speaker 7: a home, and to invest in energy sources that work
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Speaker 7: and will keep our manufacturing industries here in Australia.
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Speaker 2: I think the energy policy is a huge issue. Perhaps
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Speaker 2: I've been down on the list, but still yet another
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Speaker 2: boat of illegal immigrants has reached Australia. We only got
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Speaker 2: told today land on Croker Island off the Northern Territory,
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Speaker 2: leaving four people to wander the shore until they were spotted,
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Speaker 2: grabbed and whisked out of the country again. I presume
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Speaker 2: flown to Naurute again. Peter Dutton jumped in.
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Speaker 3: This is now the twenty third boat arrival and it's
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Speaker 3: another one that's been undetected. Our borders are not secure
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Speaker 3: under the urban ezy government. How can a boat make
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Speaker 3: it to the mainland without any detection whatsoever.
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Speaker 2: I think it's clear that the.
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Speaker 3: Prime Minister should have been honest with the Australian people
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Speaker 3: today when he addressed the media. He should have provided advice. Instead,
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Speaker 3: he got up and mentioned nothing about it, which I
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Speaker 3: think goes to show that the Prime Minister is not
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Speaker 3: being honest in relation to this debate, and it demonstrates
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Speaker 3: the fact that the government is seen as weak, not
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Speaker 3: just by Australians but by people.
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Speaker 2: Smugglers as well. Canavan this problem. I'm not going to
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Speaker 2: beat it up. It's nowhere near as out of control
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Speaker 2: as it was under the Rudd and Gillard governments. Twenty
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Speaker 2: three boats in two and a half years. But still
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Speaker 2: I do wonder how on earth it managed to get
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Speaker 2: another one to the coast without anyone noticing.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's right. I mean that does raise questions. We're
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Speaker 7: probably not going to get those questions answered by the
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Speaker 7: Prime Minister because he never tackles his issues. It's not
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Speaker 7: the first time he's pleaded there henorance about our nation's security.
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Speaker 7: You think he should be across these details and be
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Speaker 7: able to explain them to the Australian people. As you say,
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Speaker 7: this is not an a maata of boats as we
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Speaker 7: saw in the rather days. But then again, why would
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Speaker 7: you risk your life on a leaky boat across the
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Speaker 7: Pacific Islands when you can just apply for a hairdressing
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Speaker 7: course here and get in through the legal door. I mean,
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Speaker 7: this government has allowed our student visa programmed to be
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Speaker 7: totally abused and we've taken in five hundred thousand people
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Speaker 7: in net terms over the past two years each year,
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Speaker 7: adding up to a million people. And that is the
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Speaker 7: principal reason why we are seeing ten cities pop up
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Speaker 7: all around our major capitals. I never thought we'd see
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Speaker 7: this in our country, where people Australians, some of them
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Speaker 7: have jobs, they're just otherwise, good, hard working people are
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Speaker 7: having to live out of a tent because there simply
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Speaker 7: is not enough homes for Australians because this government has
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Speaker 7: not managed the reopening of our borders post COVID and
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Speaker 7: they're still not out of god on top of it.
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Speaker 7: So I'm not surprised not as many people trying to
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Speaker 7: come by vote. It's a lot easier just to come
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Speaker 7: in through the front door. Than the back door at
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Speaker 7: the moment under the Albanezi government.
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Speaker 2: Well maybe there's part of it. But mccanavan, just quickly
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Speaker 2: before I go run out of tim We've got to
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Speaker 2: ask you about this. Donald Trump's win, right, he says
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Speaker 2: he wants to wind the climate scam, that's what he
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Speaker 2: calls it. Now going to take America out of the
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Speaker 2: Paris Agreement to cut emissions. I asked you your opposition's
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Speaker 2: resources spokesman last startup, we should now leave two. She
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Speaker 2: seems sympathetic, but didn't dare say yes, which was a disappointment.
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Speaker 2: Should we also quit the Paris Agreement when the world's
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Speaker 2: top three emitters won't be bound by it to cut emissions?
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Speaker 2: That's more than half the world's submitsions in by volume,
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Speaker 2: that's right. Why doesn't the coalitioned leadership say.
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Speaker 7: Well, look, I can't speak for others. I can only
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Speaker 7: speak for myself. I think this agreement has not been
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Speaker 7: working for our country for a long time and we
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Speaker 7: should put the interests of Australians first. Even before Donald
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Speaker 7: Trump's election, our obsessive commitment to net zero has only
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Speaker 7: left us with higher power prices and the industrial and
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Speaker 7: the de industrialization of our country. I mean, keep in mind,
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Speaker 7: the US last year produced more oil than any country
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Speaker 7: in any year ever. And as I said earlier, they
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Speaker 7: have power prices that are a third of us in
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Speaker 7: our country. We're losing jobs in the US. Donald Trump's
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Speaker 7: going to supercharge that. So the Powis agreement that net
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Speaker 7: zero policy was counterproductive before Donald Trump's election, and now
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Speaker 7: it is completely and utterly baseless. Why would we stay
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Speaker 7: in this agreement when China, India, and Indonesia are ignoring
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Speaker 7: it now the United States as well. It makes absolutely
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Speaker 7: no sense. It is going to do nothing for the
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Speaker 7: environment if we met our net zero targets, which is
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Speaker 7: unlikely anyway. It's just going to cost Australian people more
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Speaker 7: in their power prices and is going to continue the
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Speaker 7: de industrialization of our nation. We need to do the
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Speaker 7: exact opposite, use our energy resources, get power prices down
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Speaker 7: and reindustrialize our nation so we can defend ourselves.
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Speaker 2: We've already lost the nickel industry under this government, thanks
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Speaker 2: in part to the high power prices, and it's just
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Speaker 2: going to continue. In mat Canavan, thank you so much
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Speaker 2: indeed for your time. But let's say talk briefly about
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Speaker 2: free speech. Another thing that Donald Trump says is going
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Speaker 2: to really put the pedal to the metal on this one. Well,
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Speaker 2: where we've got that misinformation bill being pushed through the
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Speaker 2: Parliament at the same time. Can you believe so government
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Speaker 2: appointed body will determine what you may say on the
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Speaker 2: Internet if it's a misinformation disinformation? It's just incredible And
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Speaker 2: really you've got it. People have got to know if
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Speaker 2: you don't defend free speech you count on it, you're
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Speaker 2: going to lose it. I mean, you just look at
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Speaker 2: Jamie Oliver giving in and actually banning his own children's book,
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Speaker 2: banning himself. You've got to fight. And I've got good
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Speaker 2: news about one man who did, Dave Pellow. I interviewed
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Speaker 2: him here a couple of months ago. You remember, as
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Speaker 2: a Christian minister was dragged before the Queensland Human Rights
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Speaker 2: Commission after he refused to hold the welcome to country
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Speaker 2: ceremony acknowledgment of country at the start of his Church
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Speaker 2: and State conference last May. And then he told someone
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Speaker 2: at this conference, so that was because he felt that
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Speaker 2: average traditional religion was incompatible with Christianity. Someone complained, one person,
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Speaker 2: David Pellow said in this case and now has news
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Speaker 2: for us. David, good to see you. What's happened, thank
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Speaker 2: you for having me back.
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Speaker 1: Andrew.
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Speaker 5: Well, since we last spoke otion with the Queensland Human
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Speaker 5: Rights Commission, and after that failed, we had something like
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Speaker 5: twenty eight days to wait for the complainant to decide
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Speaker 5: if he landed administrative tribunal for evidence and arguments and
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Speaker 5: penalties if found guilty of the accusations two days to spare.
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Speaker 5: In that time frame. The gentleman asked for a time
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Speaker 5: extension to get legal advice, and that legal advice was
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Speaker 5: something that we had actually recommended he get due to
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Speaker 5: the very low quality of the evidence and substance to
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Speaker 5: his complaint, especially after conciliation, and so that clock was
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Speaker 5: reset for another twenty one days. So some twenty three
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Speaker 5: weeks after the original complaint was made, the gentleman had
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Speaker 5: the timeline to actually escalate this case or let it go,
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Speaker 5: and he didn't communicate any further and the deadline passed.
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Speaker 5: And so the assumption is he got good legal advice
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Speaker 5: which told him there was no basis to his complaint
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Speaker 5: at all and no prospect of victory. And this really
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Speaker 5: bigs a question of why was the complaint received in
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Speaker 5: the first place.
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Speaker 2: That is a very that is a very good point.
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Speaker 2: And the problem is, of course too that even when
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Speaker 2: you've got the law inside and you're defending yourself your
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Speaker 2: free speech, as I well know, you can lose a
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Speaker 2: lot of money on lawyers and never get it back
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Speaker 2: even if when you're in the right. Why was it
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Speaker 2: important to you to fight this one.
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Speaker 5: Well, it's always important, as you said, to never apologize
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Speaker 5: to the woke mob. And I mean, that's a good
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Speaker 5: political principle even if you're not a Christian. But if
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Speaker 5: you're a Christian, you've got the countless examples in scripture
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Speaker 5: of where people were commanded to bow down to false
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Speaker 5: idols and risk paying the penalty otherwise, and they simply
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Speaker 5: refused to do so. And for me, I was being
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Speaker 5: asked to apologize for and get re education on the
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Speaker 5: things that one person believed I had gotten wrong about truth.
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Speaker 5: But Christian doctrine informs that there's the truth, and that
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Speaker 5: is really the point of free speech. And so in
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Speaker 5: the pursuit of free speech, I couldn't ever apologize for
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Speaker 5: pursuing truth with sincerity and good faith. And that's exactly
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Speaker 5: what I have done. And this is a very important
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Speaker 5: lesson for everybody. And the victory is really by the
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Speaker 5: lawyers at the Human Rights lawa Alliance as well as
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Speaker 5: everybody that donated to the fundraising campaign, because we raised
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Speaker 5: probably enough for another dozen cases like mine to be defended.
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Speaker 5: And so the message really is to never give up
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Speaker 5: because you're not fighting alone. There is right thinking people
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Speaker 5: like yourself in the media and like the Human Rights
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Speaker 5: Law Alliance and so many people who donated to this
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Speaker 5: campaign to make sure that there is a shield against
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Speaker 5: the sword of government.
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Speaker 2: Well, I hope that money does go to further defense
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Speaker 2: of free speech. Well done doing this and thank you
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Speaker 2: for standing up. David. Hello, thanks you so much for
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Speaker 2: your time. After the break of former top member of
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Speaker 2: Donald Trump's team warns Kevin Rudd must say sorry to
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Speaker 2: Donald Trump for being such an idiot in criticizing him,
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Speaker 2: or he should quit as our ambassador. This is interesting.
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Speaker 2: Donald Trump has started to appoint his team for government
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Speaker 2: and they include some very tough cookies, tougher than probably
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Speaker 2: any politician in our Parliament. I'll introduce you to them
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Speaker 2: in a bit. You'll get the picture. But this just
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Speaker 2: underlines why Anthony Albaneze he must now sack his old
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Speaker 2: mate and former Prome Minister Kevin Rudd as our ambassador.
22:41
Speaker 2: Rudd is simply not equipped to deal with Trump and
22:44
Speaker 2: his team. Now Rudd has not just been grossly rude
22:49
Speaker 2: about the incoming president, has also proved he does not
22:51
Speaker 2: get Trump, he does not get his agenda. And it's
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Speaker 2: a joke for Albani's to think that Ruds up to
22:57
Speaker 2: negotiating with Trump or any of who is loyalists is
23:01
Speaker 2: top officials. There's now more evidence what an arrogant fool
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Speaker 2: Rudd is insulting Trump back in twenty twenty one, this
23:08
Speaker 2: time calling him the village idiot.
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Speaker 8: In the last four years has been run by a
23:13
Speaker 8: village idiot, competent and international state craft, and the United
23:16
Speaker 8: States increasingly incompetent and international state craft under Trump.
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Speaker 2: That to all the other unhinged things Rudd has said
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Speaker 2: about Trump before he became ambassador, that he was the
23:26
Speaker 2: most destructive president in history, dragged democracy through the mard,
23:30
Speaker 2: used the Bible to justify violence, and was just crazy.
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Speaker 5: I think the general consensus amongst anyone concerned with the
23:39
Speaker 5: public policy process, domestic or international, thinks he's nuts.
23:45
Speaker 2: But it's also this Rudd was also so smug and
23:48
Speaker 2: sure of himself and wrong, so sure that Trump would
23:52
Speaker 2: not be president again that he didn't delete his insults
23:55
Speaker 2: from his personal websites until Trump was elected last week,
23:58
Speaker 2: which against shows you it doesn't get Erica, doesn't get Trump,
24:01
Speaker 2: and you look at the favors. Has now got to
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Speaker 2: go and ask Trump for like asking Trump to maybe
24:08
Speaker 2: excuse astray from the tariffs and imports that is threatened.
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Speaker 3: The ambassador has to have a functional working relationship with
24:15
Speaker 3: the administration, whether that's a Democrat or Republican administration. Of course,
24:18
Speaker 3: it's not just mister right. I mean, we're talking about
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Speaker 3: mister Albanisi and Senator Wong and others in the Labor
24:24
Speaker 3: Party who have seen fit to criticize, to criticize President
24:28
Speaker 3: elect Trump.
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Speaker 2: Yes, we sure do have a problem. You are Foreign
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Speaker 2: Minister Penny one having once said that Trump trashed alliances
24:35
Speaker 2: for personal gain. You've got Albanizi seven years ago saying
24:38
Speaker 2: Trump scared the excrement out of him. There's just so
24:42
Speaker 2: much anti Trump baggage that this governor has by riding
24:46
Speaker 2: off Trump, dismissing and rubbishing him. So you might think
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Speaker 2: it would be smart for ALBANIZI not just the dump
24:51
Speaker 2: rudders a sign of good faith, but maybe drop in
24:54
Speaker 2: on Trump during his ten day trip to economic summits
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Speaker 2: in South America this week and try to make good.
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Speaker 1: But no, if you have a look at the map,
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Speaker 1: it's actually not on the way. No.
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Speaker 2: Once again, Albanize is too stubborn to fix a mistake
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Speaker 2: or change your weakness. So I don't know, the whole
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Speaker 2: thing is very bad news for us. I think joining
25:16
Speaker 2: me is Sean Spicer, the first White House spokesman when
25:20
Speaker 2: Trump was first president. I talked to him a short
25:22
Speaker 2: while ago. Shawn Spiccer, great to see you again. Look
25:26
Speaker 2: an ambassador who in the past has called Donald Trump nuts,
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Speaker 2: a village idiot, the most destructive president in history, and
25:37
Speaker 2: has never recandied those comments. He simply pulled down his
25:40
Speaker 2: own social media posts only last week when Trump finally
25:43
Speaker 2: got elected, apparently to a surprise. Is that a person
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Speaker 2: is that, an ambassador that Donald Trump would respect and
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Speaker 2: deal with.
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Speaker 9: I think you're going to have some problems. So Number one,
25:57
Speaker 9: I find it shocking not only an ambassador, but a
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Speaker 9: former prime minister would say.
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Speaker 1: Stuff like that. Number two.
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Speaker 9: I think you contrast that with the relationship that former
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Speaker 9: Ambassador Joe Hockey had with the Trump administration. He did
26:10
Speaker 9: a phenomenal job on behalf of your country. He established
26:14
Speaker 9: a great relationship with not just President Trump. I met
26:17
Speaker 9: with him several times. He really understood the job of
26:21
Speaker 9: representing a nation building inroads, doing so in an extremely
26:26
Speaker 9: professional manner. And I think mister Rudd is going to
26:29
Speaker 9: have some problems. Donald Trump doesn't forget these kind of comments.
26:32
Speaker 9: And you see this over in the UK as well
26:35
Speaker 9: with mister Lammy. You saw how he kind of thanked
26:41
Speaker 9: Ambassador Haley and Secretary Pompeo if you will, for their
26:45
Speaker 9: previous service and said they will no longer be utilized
26:49
Speaker 9: in this next administration. It's just a further sign that
26:52
Speaker 9: Donald Trump may say the polite things to you in public,
26:55
Speaker 9: but he will not forget. And my advice to both
26:59
Speaker 9: the Australians and the UK government is to think about
27:03
Speaker 9: how you want that relationship to.
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Speaker 1: Go going forward.
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Speaker 9: It might be smart to sub them out if you will.
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Speaker 2: Well, you know, I see people say, well, look JD
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Speaker 2: Van said terrible things about yeah, Donald Trump in the past,
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Speaker 2: and Donald Trump picked them as Vice President. But isn't
27:20
Speaker 2: isn't the difference here that JD Evan's actually recanted his
27:24
Speaker 2: beliefs Yes explained by him? Was now Trump fan? Isn't
27:28
Speaker 2: that the difference?
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Speaker 1: One hundred?
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Speaker 9: And that's where I think again, I don't mean to
27:33
Speaker 9: use a different country, but number one, mister Rudd has
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Speaker 9: never done that. Number two mister Lemi in the UK
27:38
Speaker 9: has sort of explained it away and said, oh, we
27:39
Speaker 9: had dinner, everything's good.
27:41
Speaker 1: JD Vance ate humble pie. He said I was wrong.
27:44
Speaker 9: Here's why I explained it and become an outspoken advocate
27:48
Speaker 9: of not just Donald Trump, but the America First agenda.
27:51
Speaker 9: So Donald Trump, I think sincerely understands where Vice President
27:57
Speaker 9: Elect Advance was back then, why he had the position
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Speaker 9: he did, and I think it's an honest and authentic
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Speaker 9: recanting of his previous comments.
28:06
Speaker 2: I want to finish by introducing a viewers to the
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Speaker 2: two latest big appointments that Donald Trump has made for
28:14
Speaker 2: his new administration, and I want to play clips to
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Speaker 2: introduce them both because I think that says so much
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Speaker 2: about the kind of administration that's going to be hitting
28:23
Speaker 2: the ground running, absolutely running. It really shows how much
28:27
Speaker 2: he means business. He's put for the first one Tom Homan.
28:32
Speaker 2: He's put Tom Homan in charge of his borders. The
28:34
Speaker 2: board at TZARA is calling him in charge of deporting
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Speaker 2: potentially millions of legal immigrants. Homan actually worked in the
28:41
Speaker 2: last Trump administration on border policy. He did not put
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Speaker 2: up with handringers then. And I think from this exchange
28:49
Speaker 2: you will see the adults are back. Have listened.
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Speaker 6: You recommended family separation.
28:54
Speaker 2: I recommend a zero tolerance.
28:57
Speaker 10: Which includes family separation.
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Speaker 11: The same as whenever US citizen parent gets arrested when
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Speaker 11: they're with the child.
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Speaker 10: Zero tolerance was interpreted as the policy that separated.
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Speaker 1: Children from there.
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Speaker 11: If I get arrested for GUI and I have a
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Speaker 11: young child in a car, I will be separated. When
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Speaker 11: I also police officer in New York and I arrested
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Speaker 11: a father for domestic violence, I separate that mister.
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Speaker 6: With all two respect. Legal assyls are not charged with
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Speaker 6: any crime.
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Speaker 11: When you're in the country illegally as violation eight United
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Speaker 11: States Code thirteen twenty five, seeking asylum is legal. Do
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Speaker 11: you want to seek asilmon and go through the port
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Speaker 11: of entry?
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Speaker 2: Do it the legal way? So watching that, what does
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Speaker 2: that tell you about Herman's appointment.
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Speaker 9: It tells me something very clear that when Donald Trump
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Speaker 9: talked about taking the border seriously about border security, he mented,
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Speaker 9: I've known Tom a long time.
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Speaker 1: This guy means business.
29:54
Speaker 9: And I think it's sent a very strong signal not
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Speaker 9: only to those who are in this country illegally, but
29:59
Speaker 9: those thinking about coming to this country illegally to stop
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Speaker 9: right now, dead in your tracks, because Tom Holman will not.
30:06
Speaker 1: Stop, you will not yield.
30:07
Speaker 9: That man is going to put the country and its
30:10
Speaker 9: safety first and foremost. This is an issue of not
30:13
Speaker 9: just a rule of law issue, but an issue of safety,
30:17
Speaker 9: to protect young women and children that are being trafficked,
30:21
Speaker 9: to prevent drugs from coming into this country. And I'm
30:23
Speaker 9: telling you this right now, whoever you are, if you
30:25
Speaker 9: are thinking of coming to this country illegally, you might
30:28
Speaker 9: want to rethink your line of work because Tom Holman
30:31
Speaker 9: and this administration are going to be tough as nails
30:34
Speaker 9: when it comes to border security.
30:36
Speaker 2: Now, the other big appointment, it's Congresswoman at least Stephanick
30:41
Speaker 2: as you in ambassador Trump's ambassador to the United Nations.
30:45
Speaker 2: To me, it shows that Trump is absolutely fully behind
30:49
Speaker 2: Israel because this woman got famous spokes suppose of the
30:53
Speaker 2: anti Israel bias of the heads of America's top university.
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Speaker 2: This is in hearings and hunger is absolutely humiliating the
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Speaker 2: head of the University of Pennsylvania so badly that that
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Speaker 2: woman had to resign. This was brilliant.
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Speaker 6: I am asking specifically calling for the genocide of Jews?
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Speaker 6: Does that constitute bullying harassment?
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Speaker 2: If it is directed and severer pervasive, it is harassment.
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Speaker 6: So the answer is yes.
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Speaker 10: It is a.
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Speaker 1: Context dependent decision.
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Speaker 2: Congresswoman.
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Speaker 6: That's your testimony today, calling for the genocide of Jews is,
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Speaker 6: depending upon the context, that is not bullying or harassment.
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Speaker 6: This is the easiest question to answer, yes, Miss McGill.
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Speaker 6: So is your testimony that you will not answer yes
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Speaker 6: if it is if theory though, if the speech becomes conduct,
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Speaker 6: it can be harassment. Yes, conduct meaning committing the act
31:52
Speaker 6: of genocide.
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Speaker 2: What do you read into disappointment.
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Speaker 9: That Yahoo has got a best friend in Donald Trump?
32:03
Speaker 9: They will stand firm with the state of Israel, that
32:06
Speaker 9: Israel has no better friend than the United States right now.
32:10
Speaker 9: And if I were the folks that make up Hamas,
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Speaker 9: I would be very, very scared about What's what Donald
32:17
Speaker 9: Trump is going to come back to this office.
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Speaker 1: And do Elise is a very smart woman.
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Speaker 9: She's a very passionate woman when it comes to these issues,
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Speaker 9: and I think she's going to be a fierce advocate
32:27
Speaker 9: for Donald Trump at the un.
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Speaker 2: And the big picture shown sponser of the appointments you've
32:33
Speaker 2: already heard of the first woman appointed, for instance, the
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Speaker 2: chief of staff at the White House, what picture is
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Speaker 2: forming here?
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Speaker 9: These people in every one of these positions means business.
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Speaker 9: And that's the takeaway from that on process, the way
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Speaker 9: that they're going about this, Andrew, I think that everybody
32:53
Speaker 9: didn't realize it happened in plain sight. For the last
32:56
Speaker 9: four years, the America First Policy Institute, the Heritage Fund
33:00
Speaker 9: Nation have been planning a return to government, giving this
33:03
Speaker 9: president options to an act real subjective change in the
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Speaker 9: American government that benefits the American people.
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Speaker 1: And he is going to hit the.
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Speaker 9: Ground running on January twentieth like no one has ever
33:17
Speaker 9: seen before.
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Speaker 2: Sean Spicer, thank you so much for your time, Gibett.
33:24
Speaker 2: In fact, there are now reports that Trump is also
33:27
Speaker 2: about to name his secretary of State. This is not
33:31
Speaker 2: even a week after the election. He's a secretary State
33:34
Speaker 2: being in America's Foreign minist really Senator Marco Rubio, a
33:39
Speaker 2: Latino that got their indie policies there. But more seriously,
33:43
Speaker 2: more importantly, here's another hawk tough on China. This is
33:49
Speaker 2: looking like a very focused team after the break. How
33:54
Speaker 2: dumb laws and greedy politicians cause the tobacco war that's
33:57
Speaker 2: had one hundred and fourteen shops firebomb in just Melbourne alone. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: it's a rule that almost no politician wants to accept.
34:10
Speaker 2: Their rules. Their laws create criminals, and we're now seeing
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Speaker 2: that very thing in Victoria that's exploded there and it's
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Speaker 2: spreading to South Australia. A disaster of public policy made
34:24
Speaker 2: worse by their laws and by weak judges. Since March
34:29
Speaker 2: last year, criminals have been ramming and fire bombing one
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Speaker 2: hundred and fourteen shops in a war between Middle Eastern
34:37
Speaker 2: crime games, basically to control the trade in elicted tobacco,
34:41
Speaker 2: most of it's smuggling from Asia. It's a miracle that
34:43
Speaker 2: no one's been killed, including people living above or next
34:46
Speaker 2: to some of these shops. Now, the reported ethnic angle
34:50
Speaker 2: is obviously worrying, but I'll put that to one side.
34:52
Speaker 2: I want to focus on how bad laws help create
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Speaker 2: this mayhem. Politicians take to tax cigarettes here more than
35:04
Speaker 2: you'll find in any other country. A package is now
35:06
Speaker 2: around forty dollars for a pack of dat smoker. That's
35:10
Speaker 2: nearly thirteen thousand a year for the poor. That's unaffordable.
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Speaker 2: Our pologists say, oh, we're doing it for your health. Well,
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Speaker 2: I think most of them are doing it for the money,
35:20
Speaker 2: but the result has actually not been that healthy for
35:23
Speaker 2: the rest of us. A pack of legal cigarettes forty dollars,
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Speaker 2: a pack of illicit ones ten dollars. What do you
35:32
Speaker 2: think happens next? For the poor? It's a no brainer
35:37
Speaker 2: by the illegal ones they can't afford the expensive, but
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Speaker 2: the legal ones anyway. And it's a no brainer for
35:43
Speaker 2: crooks to get into that business and bomb any shop
35:46
Speaker 2: that won't sell what they're offering or that's selling their
35:49
Speaker 2: opponents stuff. So why in Victoria isn't so much worse?
35:56
Speaker 2: Not sure, but let me suggest a few things. Culture
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Speaker 2: may be nasty, bit sour, The communal bonds seemed to
36:03
Speaker 2: be breaking a bit more in Victoria than other states,
36:06
Speaker 2: and economically it's not that great. Bail laws very lax,
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Speaker 2: especially with the young offenders. So police have reported that
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Speaker 2: kids are getting paid as as five hundred dollars ago
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Speaker 2: and fire bombers shop and they know they probably won't
36:20
Speaker 2: get jail, almost certain out on bail. And by the way,
36:24
Speaker 2: that's not just the kids are there. In fact, three
36:26
Speaker 2: weeks ago police arrested as Zihidara. He's a Lamborghini driving
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Speaker 2: a leg ring leader of a thirty million dollar alicted
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Speaker 2: tobacco syndicate. They arrested him as he tried to board
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Speaker 2: a flight to do Bar and guess what, even he
36:38
Speaker 2: got bail. And then there's the weak sentences that judges
36:42
Speaker 2: hand out in Victoria. Two tobacco kingpins Dibb and Hassan Barcatte.
36:48
Speaker 2: Again notice the names Barakatte. One of them just got
36:53
Speaker 2: only two years jail, the other even less eight months.
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Speaker 2: These are guys send ERUs for smuggling in eight million
36:59
Speaker 2: cigarettes at avoiding paying four million dollars in taxes, and
37:03
Speaker 2: since then the here of Sunden reports at eighteen criminals
37:06
Speaker 2: were smuggling in about nineteen million cigarettes, avoided paying nearly
37:10
Speaker 2: twenty two million in tax and duties. They got an
37:13
Speaker 2: average sentence of just ten months ten months. The Victorian
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Speaker 2: governors today vowed to fix this disarter with more laws,
37:20
Speaker 2: more powers for police to search premises, massive funes up
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Speaker 2: to one point seven million dollars, a scheme to license
37:27
Speaker 2: tobacco businesses. Joining me is Roan Pike, a former senior
37:31
Speaker 2: police officer who led the Australian Border Forces Tobacco Strike
37:34
Speaker 2: Team and now heads Row and PIP Consulting, which gives
37:38
Speaker 2: financial crime investigation services. At Ron Pike, thank you so
37:42
Speaker 2: much for your time. Did you predict this mayhem?
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Speaker 4: I certainly didn't predict the nature and regularity of the
37:50
Speaker 4: fire bombans that we have seen in Victoria and other states.
37:54
Speaker 4: But I did predict that the illicit market would increase
37:56
Speaker 4: given the tobacco policy settings of the federal government. Predicted
38:00
Speaker 4: that there'd be more criminals attracted to this crime type,
38:03
Speaker 4: and predicted that that would have obvious criminal outcomes.
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Speaker 2: Well, for some of you get this much out of hand.
38:12
Speaker 2: There's a lot of things that have clearly gone wrong.
38:14
Speaker 2: But stripping it back, what is the best way, the
38:18
Speaker 2: easiest way to fight this epidemic of fire bombings and
38:21
Speaker 2: standover threats. Is it tougher laws or lower tobacco taxes?
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Speaker 4: Well, certainly two of the key drivers that have caused
38:31
Speaker 4: this problem have been a lack of enforcement and the
38:34
Speaker 4: exponential rise in the taxes. So it's natural to assume
38:37
Speaker 4: that if we did actually introduce tougher laws and actually
38:42
Speaker 4: enforce them. We have laws in most states, Victoria perhaps
38:46
Speaker 4: being an exception, but in most states do have decent laws,
38:50
Speaker 4: but they're just not being enforced. Plane packaging is a
38:52
Speaker 4: classic example that was touted has been world leading, but
38:57
Speaker 4: it's never enforced. No one gets fine for selling non
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Speaker 4: plane package cigarettes. And as for the price, we were
39:04
Speaker 4: supposed to increase that appropriately in order to discourage people
39:08
Speaker 4: from smoking. We increased it exponentially, and that's now, as
39:12
Speaker 4: you say, caused people to be attracted to the illicit variety,
39:18
Speaker 4: and that's happening more and more. So it's natural to
39:21
Speaker 4: think that if you reduce the price increased enforcement, that
39:24
Speaker 4: may have an effect, But the reality is that it's
39:27
Speaker 4: grown so large now and so entrenched that it will
39:30
Speaker 4: take a huge effort to turn it around.
39:34
Speaker 2: Well, just on your first point about how fearless people
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Speaker 2: they are the law in selling these things. Her journalists
39:41
Speaker 2: today say, even without asking, he walked into a strange
39:45
Speaker 2: shop and they just opened the drawer there. Yeah, take
39:47
Speaker 2: your pick of these asianeer elicit to tobacco packs. I mean, unbelievable,
39:54
Speaker 2: how fearless it is. I noticed a couple of times
39:57
Speaker 2: you've mentioned the lack of enforcement of laws, the weak
40:01
Speaker 2: law enforcement. I don't know if you want to dump
40:03
Speaker 2: on former comrades and all that, but what is the
40:06
Speaker 2: problem there.
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Speaker 4: No, certainly, I'm not going to dump on the ABF.
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Speaker 4: They're doing the best they can with the resources they have,
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Speaker 4: but they're not designed to stop every illicit product coming
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Speaker 4: across the border. There's a naivety with their Health department's
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Speaker 4: tobacco policy thinking that the ABF can stop everything that's
40:26
Speaker 4: illegal coming across the border.
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Speaker 2: They're not designed to do that.
40:30
Speaker 4: What has happened is that the criminals have been encouraged
40:33
Speaker 4: to import more and more or less at tobacco, and
40:35
Speaker 4: there's a tsunami of it coming across the border past
40:38
Speaker 4: the border. At the domestic level, police forces have been
40:42
Speaker 4: slow to catch on that this is a huge grime problem.
40:45
Speaker 4: They are reluctantly coming to that conclusion now and trying
40:50
Speaker 4: to upscale their activities to try and deal with it.
40:53
Speaker 4: But as I say, they're behind the eight ball and
40:55
Speaker 4: it will be a long time before it's fixed.
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Speaker 2: And why is it that so many Middle Eastern and
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Speaker 2: Southeastern Asian criminals are dominating this trade?
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Speaker 4: Well three reasons really. One is that they've always been
41:11
Speaker 4: involved in elicit tobacco. Middle Eastern in Melbourne have dominated
41:15
Speaker 4: the trade for more than thirty years, Southeast Asians more
41:18
Speaker 4: so in Sydney for a similar timeframe. Secondly, the illicit
41:23
Speaker 4: product often comes from that part of the world. Dubai
41:27
Speaker 4: makes a lot of manufactured cigarettes that come to Australia
41:30
Speaker 4: and same with China, and so they have contacts and pathways,
41:37
Speaker 4: corrupt pathways to get those products through the border and
41:41
Speaker 4: deceive our officials here. And thirdly, those cultures traditionally high
41:48
Speaker 4: smoking cultures, and so they're really just providing tobacco to
41:55
Speaker 4: those cultures here in Australia as well. So that's also
41:57
Speaker 4: helping fuel the demand for it.
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Speaker 2: And of course the family connections are very tighter. And
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Speaker 2: there are other factors too that I won't go into
42:08
Speaker 2: this time. At Rohan Pike, thank you so much indeed
42:10
Speaker 2: for your time. You know, after the break, we have
42:14
Speaker 2: an army that's so weak it can't definished from China,
42:17
Speaker 2: of course, but it has now declared war on the
42:19
Speaker 2: whether how folk can global warming only get You know,
42:27
Speaker 2: there's another UN Climate Change conference on because you can
42:30
Speaker 2: hear it the line, the exaggerating the hysteria all the
42:33
Speaker 2: way from it in Azerbayan.
42:36
Speaker 6: This is another s os to the plant.
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Speaker 9: If we can't stop the genocide in Palestine, we will
42:43
Speaker 9: not be able to stop the genocide that is common
42:45
Speaker 9: in terms of climate violence.
42:47
Speaker 2: And here you can hear the ABC once again pushing
42:50
Speaker 2: those dodgy scares like islands are drowning today Again.
42:54
Speaker 12: As the ice smelts in Antarctica, it doesn't stay there.
42:57
Speaker 12: It strongly impacts places like the Pacific, where are there
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Speaker 12: are many low lying islands.
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Speaker 9: He's worried that melting ice sheets could cause many meters
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Speaker 9: of sea level rise.
43:08
Speaker 12: When might we see progressive and unstoppable ice sheet retreat.
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Speaker 12: There are some studies that show this could be already underway.
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Speaker 2: Spirits. This is so irresponsible that the ABC did not
43:20
Speaker 2: admit today, but it was forced to admit three years
43:22
Speaker 2: ago that in fact, hundreds of Pacific islands were instead
43:25
Speaker 2: of getting bigger. One study of two hundred and twenty
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Speaker 2: one atoles said they've grown by more than sixty one
43:30
Speaker 2: square kilometer since the year two thousand. Earlier study in
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Speaker 2: twenty ten or twenty seven out of islands in the
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Speaker 2: Pacific over several decades showed forty three percent had stayed
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Speaker 2: stable in size and another forty three percent had actually
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Speaker 2: grown with the waves dumping sand, crash coral on them.
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Speaker 2: I mean, seriously, why does the ABC ignore this cool
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Speaker 2: science again and again and again? Joining me is the
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Speaker 2: panel Will Kingston host The far at Will the podcast
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Speaker 2: from The Spectator and politicis and Culture and Sconew's host
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Speaker 2: The Nakadi Georgia of Donika and James every Sunday here
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Speaker 2: at a PM. I mean, Will, there are three subjects
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Speaker 2: where you know our media can't be trusted tell the
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Speaker 2: truth of full truth? Is Donald Trump, race issues, global warming?
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Speaker 2: Way is that.
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Speaker 10: Because most journalists have become activists, Andrew, the fundamental conception
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Speaker 10: of the role has changed in the minds of most
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Speaker 10: young journalists from reporting what is going on in the
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Speaker 10: world to trying to shape what is happening in the world.
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Speaker 10: And it's a tragedy. And it's also why the public
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Speaker 10: no longer trusts what was once a highly trusted profession.
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Speaker 10: I'd also add, though, that I think there is a
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Speaker 10: strong culture of ideological coercion at places like the ABC.
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Speaker 10: If you're to come out and say what you just
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Speaker 10: said in an ABC news room, you would be socially ostracized,
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Speaker 10: you would be shunned, your future opportunities would probably be limited.
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Speaker 10: And so I think that also forces people into taking
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Speaker 10: those positions at places like the and most other news roots.
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Speaker 2: Tunicuous likely religion, isn't it. I mean, you know, for instance,
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Speaker 2: here we've got an army that's short of soldiers, short
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Speaker 2: of money, shorter of weapons. The Albinizi government's got a
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Speaker 2: defense forces to commit to and report on plans to
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Speaker 2: go net zero, saying oh, it's going to explore using
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Speaker 2: green aviation fuels and its jets or having electric bush
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Speaker 2: masters the vehicles. I mean, seriously, would China be doing
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Speaker 2: this kind.
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Speaker 13: Of thing, No, Andrew, China would be actually laughing at
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Speaker 13: us right now. In fact, our enemies would be laughing
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Speaker 13: at Australia, going look at them. They've got a woke
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Speaker 13: army who was obsessed with diversity and inclusion. They've even
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Speaker 13: got gender neutral names for some of their weaponry and machinery,
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Speaker 13: and we can't even get recruits.
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Speaker 1: And we're going down that path.
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Speaker 13: And now the cherry on top of the cake, Andrew,
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Speaker 13: we're going net zero. Now I can tell you that
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Speaker 13: China are not going net zero when it comes to
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Speaker 13: their army because they're too busy building their army. We
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Speaker 13: may as well say, hey, look we're open for business.
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Speaker 13: At the rate this army is going, it's just wrong
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Speaker 13: priorities again.
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Speaker 2: Honestly, will it makes you hope that China will take
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Speaker 2: pity on us and if we ever do have to
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Speaker 2: use our electric bush masses that we are fighting somewhere
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Speaker 2: where there's plenty of recharging station and the time to
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Speaker 2: recharge them. I mean, the whole thing is so insane.
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Speaker 2: You know. It's used to me a joke arguing with
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Speaker 2: the clouds. Now we're fighting them.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, it is insane. It's fascicle in one respect. I
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Speaker 10: want to laugh. But this stuff also infuriates me, Andrew,
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Speaker 10: because it's one thing doing the whole virtue signaling nonsense
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Speaker 10: in policy areas which are not life and death. Defense
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Speaker 10: is not one of those areas. If you are not
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Speaker 10: focused on the job at hand, Australian service men and women.
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Speaker 10: Their lives can be put at risk. So this sort
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Speaker 10: of diversionary nonsense is just so morally repugnant to me
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Speaker 10: because for that very reason that this is something which
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Speaker 10: we should be taking much more seriously than what we are.
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Speaker 2: I think. So look, Anika, look a couple of Versts
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Speaker 2: on the show earlier this week. I've forgotten who it
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Speaker 2: was with, and I was being assured that we're over
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Speaker 2: a sea of treva. I think it was we're over
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Speaker 2: the period of peak woke, and that Donald Trump has
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Speaker 2: helped push us over that that from now on, you know,
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Speaker 2: Wokers on the retreat. Do you see it that way?
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Speaker 13: Well, I actually feel quite optimistic, to be honest with you, Andrew,
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Speaker 13: because that's what the US election taught us, that people
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Speaker 13: were pushing back against the wok ideology, against dee eyes.
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Speaker 13: People have had enough, and when the silent majority have
47:38
Speaker 13: had enough, they've really had enough. Now I think certainly
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Speaker 13: it's set the time. I think Australia is still a
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Speaker 13: few years behind the United States when it comes to this,
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Speaker 13: and we certainly have hit pete woke in this country.
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Speaker 1: But I don't know, I personally feel a.
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Speaker 13: Sense of optimism that people are finally pushing back.
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Speaker 2: I don't know. We thought that the same after the
47:57
Speaker 2: Brexit vote in Britain, but it only got worse, didn't
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Speaker 2: it will.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm not as optimistic, unfortunately as Danika, for the
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Speaker 10: reason that our education institutions have been so successfully hijacked.
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Speaker 10: There are kids who are going to go through twelve
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Speaker 10: years of work brainwashing before they even get to university.
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Speaker 10: So I think this is a battle we're going to
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Speaker 10: be fighting for a long long time unfortunately.
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Speaker 2: Nikka to Jeojo Wilkinson, good to see you both. Thank
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Speaker 2: you very much for your time. I mentioned, by the
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Speaker 2: way that Jamie Oliver had self banned his own book
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Speaker 2: Now is Sherry Maxon good note,