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- 0:08SPEAKER_02: My name is Darren.
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- 0:21SPEAKER_02: Well, actually, no, it was 80, 85.
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- 0:25SPEAKER_02: Right?
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- 0:28SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely.
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- 1:07SPEAKER_02: So first thing we want to talk about is some Utah Jazz basketball.
- 1:10SPEAKER_02: So let's go ahead and roll that.
- 1:12SPEAKER_01: Let's do it.
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- 1:30SPEAKER_02: That's right.
- 1:32SPEAKER_02: Less than a month away, AJ, for Utah Jazz basketball, man.
- 1:36SPEAKER_02: I am getting excited.
- 1:38SPEAKER_01: Oh, dude, excitement is like the most understatement of the century, man.
- 1:43SPEAKER_01: Like, we're gonna be able to watch jazz basketball, and guess what?
- 1:46SPEAKER_01: They're actually gonna try to win.
- 1:47SPEAKER_02: I know it's gonna be insane.
- 1:48SPEAKER_02: I don't know what to do with myself.
- 1:50SPEAKER_02: Like, it's gonna be crazy.
- 1:51SPEAKER_02: It's gonna be fun.
- 1:52SPEAKER_02: Looking forward to it.
- 1:53SPEAKER_02: I'm sure you guys are too.
- 1:54SPEAKER_02: Uh, one of the things we want to talk about again, because what we're talking about here, AJ, is we are in brand new territory here when it comes to the Utah Jazz.
- 2:02SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 2:02SPEAKER_02: This is the first time in the Will Hardy era, AJ, that the Jazz are actually going to try and win some basketball games.
- 2:10SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 2:11SPEAKER_02: And it's easy for us as fans just to watch the game and just enjoy it, right?
- 2:15SPEAKER_02: Like, oh my gosh, they're trying to win.
- 2:16SPEAKER_02: This is great.
- 2:17SPEAKER_02: We're we're watching basketball.
- 2:18SPEAKER_02: We're not pulling out all of our starters at the end of the in the middle of the third to make sure we lose this game.
- 2:22SPEAKER_02: We're actually trying to win.
- 2:23SPEAKER_02: This is awesome, right?
- 2:24SPEAKER_02: Yep.
- 2:25SPEAKER_02: But we know that all the Utah Jazz DNA and the DNA sports recap uh followers out there.
- 2:31SPEAKER_02: You we all know you guys are big brain, right?
- 2:34SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
- 2:34SPEAKER_02: You guys got plenty of wrinkles on those craniums there, up in those brains.
- 2:38SPEAKER_02: That gray matter is working, those synapses are firing, all that good stuff.
- 2:43SPEAKER_02: You probably want to be a little bit more in-depth on this jazz team, other than just simply, oh, this is great, we're trying, right?
- 2:48SPEAKER_02: So we're causing this set, we're calling this segment that we're gonna be talking about a few subjects here uh throughout the rest of the pre-preceason.
- 2:55SPEAKER_01: For the next three, four weeks, absolutely.
- 2:57SPEAKER_02: Of you know, what to look for uh early on uh for the jazz.
- 3:01SPEAKER_02: And AJ, this week, our first subject that we're gonna be discussing is gonna be Coach Will Hardy.
- 3:07SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 3:07SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely.
- 3:08SPEAKER_01: And and really, Will Hardy is such a great subject for this first kind of, you know, one to kick off this new thing we're talking about because Will Hardy has had a really, really hard job.
- 3:19SPEAKER_01: I mean, in a nutshell, this guy's been tasked with putting this team in the best position to get the highest draft pick possible.
- 3:26SPEAKER_01: And and the thing is, is like there's only one way to do that, and it's you gotta lose.
- 3:31SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 3:31SPEAKER_01: You know, and and telling a coach to go out there and do your best.
- 3:34SPEAKER_01: We're gonna draft really talented players, we're gonna acquire really talented players, and we need you to go out there and lose.
- 3:40SPEAKER_01: That's just that's not fun, right?
- 3:42SPEAKER_01: And losing as a professional athlete, that's just that's just one of those things that you you can't teach players how to lose.
- 3:51SPEAKER_01: And then he's been tasked with making sure we lose, but also making sure this team is getting better because at some point we're not gonna want to lose.
- 3:59SPEAKER_01: Um, so we're gonna learn a lot about this team, and it's gonna be probably in the first couple of weeks.
- 4:03SPEAKER_01: It's gonna be really early, right?
- 4:04SPEAKER_01: But I think it'll be really interesting to see how how Coach Hardy really adjusts to when this team starts to face adversity, which side of Coach Hardy are we gonna see, right?
- 4:15SPEAKER_01: Because he's gonna have he's gonna have the the like the task to put different lineups on the floor, you know, to make defensive adjustments, to make offensive adjustments.
- 4:24SPEAKER_01: What is the other team doing?
- 4:25SPEAKER_01: Did they just switch in a big guy?
- 4:27SPEAKER_01: You know, they pulled out, now they've got two fives on the floor, or they got two fours on the floor.
- 4:31SPEAKER_01: How are we gonna adjust each one of these different situations?
- 4:34SPEAKER_01: Um and then I'm also really curious to see how is he going to continue with player development, right?
- 4:41SPEAKER_01: Because you do still have some young guys, and and you know, we'll talk a little bit more about that, you know, uh in then a couple segments.
- 4:47SPEAKER_01: But this team uh has talent, and and I think his first uh real challenge is gonna be how does this team continue with chemistry?
- 4:58SPEAKER_01: Um because his challenge starts before the season starts, right?
- 5:01SPEAKER_01: So now we've got some good signs, right?
- 5:04SPEAKER_01: He's been out of the country with Triple J and Keontae and Lari.
- 5:07SPEAKER_01: You know, you see him all over social media doing kind of the things that you you hope they do.
- 5:12SPEAKER_01: Um but it's really it's really kind of an interesting thing to see how Coach Hardy is going to um face adversity at the beginning part of this season.
- 5:22SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'd have to agree with you, man.
- 5:24SPEAKER_02: And there's really two things on this one that I want to make sure that we hit.
- 5:27SPEAKER_02: Uh the first one I want to hit hard here is gonna be um, you know, we've heard it from jazz fans, right?
- 5:33SPEAKER_02: Um there's literally, you know, one way that we can look at this as a as a jazz fan is that this team has been doing nothing but trying to lose basketball games.
- 5:42SPEAKER_02: That's something we've talked about way too much.
- 5:44SPEAKER_02: Um, glad it's in the rear view, rear rear view mirror.
- 5:48SPEAKER_02: But this is gonna be the first time where we're actually gonna try and win.
- 5:50SPEAKER_02: And what we're gonna see right out the gate is how Coach Hardy is gonna switch from a team with a losing culture to a winning culture.
- 6:00SPEAKER_02: Um, head coach or player, it's on to Will Hardy to be able to flip that switch and turn this team's culture around into a winning one, both in the locker room and on the floor, and as well at Zions Bank uh basketball center.
- 6:14SPEAKER_02: That's number one, right?
- 6:15SPEAKER_02: To me, that's the key thing there.
- 6:17SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you could say, oh, you know, he's a great coach, you know, he's kept their heads up the whole time.
- 6:20SPEAKER_02: It doesn't matter if you're losing basketball games, you have a losing culture, especially when you're not trying to win.
- 6:25SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know what I mean?
- 6:26SPEAKER_01: Like losing is one thing, but trying to lose is a whole nother thing.
- 6:30SPEAKER_02: It is a whole nother thing, and it's creating bad habits within the team that they've probably seen.
- 6:34SPEAKER_02: They bowled out for three quarters and you pulled them off.
- 6:36SPEAKER_02: That does not have an impact on your team.
- 6:37SPEAKER_01: And it's just zero pressure, dude, right?
- 6:39SPEAKER_01: To go out there and know that you can give your all, and at the end of the game, you're not even gonna be on the floor because the Jazz aren't trying to win.
- 6:44SPEAKER_01: How do you coach play how do you coach players to be better in those scenarios and and then still keep morale up?
- 6:51SPEAKER_01: Like, dude, that could you imagine how difficult that's had to be for the last few years?
- 6:54SPEAKER_02: Can you imagine trying to teach Keontae George to be uh a point guard who's averaging six assists a game just to be like, okay, good job now, come back off the court.
- 7:02SPEAKER_02: We're gonna bench you.
- 7:03SPEAKER_01: Yeah, now you're sitting because you did too good of a job and we're up 10 points going into the third.
- 7:07SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
- 7:07SPEAKER_02: Isaiah, you're doing too good.
- 7:09SPEAKER_02: Come sit down.
- 7:09SPEAKER_02: You know, actually, you're gonna be the shooting guard for the rest of the game.
- 7:12SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that kind of stuff is really tough, and that's a winning culture shift that you're gonna have to turn around.
- 7:17SPEAKER_02: Yep.
- 7:17SPEAKER_02: So we'll see if he can do it and how fast he can flip that switch, right?
- 7:20SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 7:21SPEAKER_02: Number two on this one is uh is what will Will do late in the third or early in the fourth when the team they're playing punches back and goes on a run.
- 7:33SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 7:34SPEAKER_01: You know, and this is this is gonna be really good because when you see some of these runs, right, like you're you gotta expect that this team is going to have to make some defensive adjustments, right?
- 7:44SPEAKER_01: When and we talked last week kind of about some of the defensive lineups and stuff that they might have, but like, is that gonna be enough?
- 7:51SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
- 7:52SPEAKER_01: Like, what is Will Hardy gonna do in these scenarios?
- 7:54SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so up to this point, it's just basically been okay, development.
- 7:57SPEAKER_02: We've we're winning, you know, and they punch us back.
- 7:59SPEAKER_02: That's exactly what we want.
- 8:00SPEAKER_02: We're gonna throw the young guys out there for development, see what we can do, teach them how to play in these fast-paced scenarios.
- 8:05SPEAKER_02: Well, what are they gonna do now?
- 8:07SPEAKER_02: What's Will gonna do now, AJ?
- 8:09SPEAKER_02: It's not just simply change the lineup.
- 8:11SPEAKER_02: Is it gonna be more about playing the matchups?
- 8:13SPEAKER_02: Or is it gonna be more about switching a heavy defense to a heavy offense?
- 8:17SPEAKER_02: Like if you're like, okay, these guys are putting up a run, let's either A put out a defensive lockdown lineup to where we can stop the run, or B, hey, let's go out there and try to outscore them.
- 8:27SPEAKER_02: Yeah, absolutely both of these are options that he's gonna have to figure out or bet blend it between the two.
- 8:31SPEAKER_02: But because honestly, AJ, we have not seen AJ, yeah, we have not seen AJ Will Hardy in any type of adversity for this team up to this point.
- 8:39SPEAKER_01: Exactly what I was gonna say, dude.
- 8:41SPEAKER_01: Is is the big thing is is like we're we're assuming Will Hardy's a good coach because we've seen this team shine in moments, right?
- 8:47SPEAKER_01: We've seen times where it's like, wow, the Jazz are on it.
- 8:50SPEAKER_01: Like, I feel like this team has some great energy, they've got some momentum, like they look like they're gelling really well, but we haven't seen them win.
- 8:58SPEAKER_01: So that means absolutely nothing in the NBA if you have great energy and you know what I mean, everyone looks like they're having fun on the court because now you've got to win basketball games.
- 9:07SPEAKER_01: And that this is the time where you're gonna see if Will Hardy is actually the coach of this team for the future, or if he was just an interim coach until we can get through this really tough spot and the Jazz can make some roster transitions this season really early.
- 9:20SPEAKER_01: We're gonna see what the difference is and if Will Hardy's really ready to coach his team to win.
- 9:24SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and we're gonna see it really quickly.
- 9:26SPEAKER_02: Love this comment here from McKinley Cutler.
- 9:27SPEAKER_02: Let's go ahead and get this one up on the screen here.
- 9:30SPEAKER_02: Um, I honestly don't think we need to worry, uh, we don't need to work about, or I think I might worry about.
- 9:36SPEAKER_02: Uh I don't think we need to worry about a winning culture.
- 9:39SPEAKER_02: Locke had a lot of data on this, but losing culture is more of a media head line than it is a real problem.
- 9:46SPEAKER_02: On that, I would strongly disagree with uh coach with David Locke on that.
- 9:50SPEAKER_02: I would strongly, strongly disagree.
- 9:53SPEAKER_02: And you know who else would probably disagree with that?
- 9:55SPEAKER_02: That would be uh the late great Kobe Bryant.
- 9:57SPEAKER_02: Uh there is definitely a more than just an on-the-court numbers aspect to losing or winning.
- 10:04SPEAKER_02: You can see when a team, exactly like I mentioned on this one, what happens when you have a lead, you're riding high, you're putting up 30 points a quarter, you're knocking down threes, and all of a sudden that team punches you back in the mouth hard.
- 10:16SPEAKER_02: What do you do at that point?
- 10:18SPEAKER_02: It's not going to be simply, oh, you know, the stats show that we have a, you know, that we have we close out quarter stronger than the you know top five players, top five teams in the NBA.
- 10:27SPEAKER_02: We have a stronger closeout than you know, none of that data matters when it becomes time.
- 10:33SPEAKER_02: Because if if it was that, if it was all just stats, then we wouldn't need to worry about playing the season or playing the games at all because the stats would always win out.
- 10:40SPEAKER_02: In this case, I think culture, winning culture and losing culture very much depends on who's pointing who's you know driving the ship and how is he pointing that how is he pointing that battle man?
- 10:52SPEAKER_02: I think that's really important.
- 10:53SPEAKER_01: No, I and and honestly, I think you're absolutely right, dude.
- 10:56SPEAKER_01: I think the big thing is is like the the culture of this team, we don't know what it is at this point.
- 11:02SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
- 11:03SPEAKER_01: Like we we know that they've lost, we know that they were trying to lose, but but switching from a a team that like you can't see that statistically, and and I love David Locke, I'm a huge fan.
- 11:15SPEAKER_01: I I listen to his podcast quite a bit.
- 11:18SPEAKER_01: I think he's got a lot of really good stuff, but I think in this particular situation, you can't dive into statistics of losing culture and winning culture.
- 11:25SPEAKER_01: This team's lost a lot of basketball games for a really long time.
- 11:29SPEAKER_01: And the fact is, is there's just not anything that you can do to show if they're going to be a winning team.
- 11:35SPEAKER_02: Yeah, absolutely.
- 11:36SPEAKER_02: And I think that's gonna definitely be something we're gonna see.
- 11:38SPEAKER_02: And again, the other thing about the whole stats is this isn't gonna be the same team.
- 11:41SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 11:41SPEAKER_02: You know, this team, I bet if they would have tried and like not tried to intentionally lose games, this was a playing team last year without Walker Kessler on it.
- 11:50SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, I agree.
- 11:51SPEAKER_02: So seeing what this team can do now in that same aspect could really kind of change things.
- 11:56SPEAKER_02: But again, we don't know because we haven't seen it yet.
- 11:58SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 11:58SPEAKER_02: So it's really be interesting to see.
- 12:00SPEAKER_02: We got a couple more comments here from McKinley on this.
- 12:03SPEAKER_02: I want to hear from him on this.
- 12:04SPEAKER_02: Uh, also looking at the new roster.
- 12:06SPEAKER_02: We have so many guys on this team that either have been on winning teams, but also, but all most also most of the players that don't know how to win aren't here anymore.
- 12:16SPEAKER_02: Um, also that says just looking at this new rooster.
- 12:20SPEAKER_02: So yeah, looking at the new rooster.
- 12:22SPEAKER_02: I love it.
- 12:23SPEAKER_01: That's uh I'm not looking at any new roosters.
- 12:25SPEAKER_02: That is a major league to call out right there.
- 12:29SPEAKER_02: Have you seen the movie Major League?
- 12:31SPEAKER_02: No.
- 12:32SPEAKER_02: Oh my gosh.
- 12:33SPEAKER_02: So good.
- 12:33SPEAKER_02: You're like, hey Serato, I'm on the rooster.
- 12:36SPEAKER_02: So good.
- 12:37SPEAKER_02: So good.
- 12:37SPEAKER_02: Hopefully, you did that on purpose, make it like this.
- 12:39SPEAKER_02: Or just claim that you did, because that was great.
- 12:41SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's fine.
- 12:42SPEAKER_02: Um, but yeah, also he he's he also up here.
- 12:44SPEAKER_02: I mean, when we played all of our guys and we had one of the best crunch time win rates.
- 12:49SPEAKER_01: I I mean, I don't know how that's even possible to have a best crunch time.
- 12:53SPEAKER_01: We won like 12 games last year, man.
- 12:54SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think those 12 wins were against teams that actually wanted to lose more than we did.
- 12:58SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you know, like it's when you have two or three players hitting a triple-double in the same game, that tells you that neither team wanted to win that game.
- 13:06SPEAKER_01: And I do understand it was more than 12 wins just for the record.
- 13:08SPEAKER_01: Yeah, right.
- 13:09SPEAKER_02: Someone can say something in the comments.
- 13:10SPEAKER_01: Yeah, for sure.
- 13:11SPEAKER_01: But it's I do understand we won more than 12 actual games last year.
- 13:15SPEAKER_01: But the Jazz were bad and they weren't trying to win, and we were all okay with it.
- 13:19SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and I would argue that um all the people that were with the team when they weren't trying to win are are gone.
- 13:23SPEAKER_01: I I would really argue against that because you know there are a lot of them are still here, like Keontae, Lari, Isaiah Collier, uh, Bryce, Bryce Sensaba, Kyle Filipowski.
- 13:35SPEAKER_02: We brought in losers.
- 13:36SPEAKER_02: We brought in, not that they are losers, but they were on a losing team, triple J.
- 13:41SPEAKER_02: Memphis Grievous's were not good the last two years.
- 13:43SPEAKER_02: No, you know, so I mean they were better without uh what's his name on the court, uh John Morant.
- 13:48SPEAKER_02: So that's big shot to freaking Triple J.
- 13:51SPEAKER_02: He was a facilitator on that team practically, and which helped him to win.
- 13:55SPEAKER_02: But um, yeah, there's a lot of them that are still here, and a lot of them that are gone, you know, that were scoring on this team were our offense, like uh JC.
- 14:06SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 14:06SPEAKER_02: So yeah, while I agree that the stats can tell us a lot, and I'm usually a big stat guy, also a big fan of David Locke.
- 14:12SPEAKER_02: Um, I have to do I don't think this is one thing that you can measure with a stat sheet, I don't think.
- 14:18SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, I I I totally agree.
- 14:21SPEAKER_01: Um so on on the next subject though, I I actually love this.
- 14:25SPEAKER_01: Um, and I think it's kind of a great time to kind of roll into it because over this offseason, the Jazz have made quite a few additions, right?
- 14:31SPEAKER_01: And their primary mission during this whole offseason was let's add defense, let's add shooting, and they go out and they get Josh Kogi and they trade for Josh Green.
- 14:40SPEAKER_01: And I think it kind of raises the question, and that question is how does Bryce fit along, you know, some of these players who are similar in size?
- 14:48SPEAKER_01: Um, and you love that the Jazz drafted Bryce and and really he's been a player that's been really fun to watch.
- 14:54SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, they got him from Ohio State a few years ago.
- 14:57SPEAKER_01: He did a great job.
- 14:58SPEAKER_01: Um, but I'm curious, Darren, like what are your thoughts on like how do you see him fitting in this rotation from uh like an offensive perspective?
- 15:08SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so I I really like this subject because this is something we saw um some conversations on.
- 15:13SPEAKER_02: Uh there's an article I can't I'm gonna remember where we were reading it from.
- 15:17SPEAKER_02: Where are we where were we seeing this one?
- 15:19SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah, S I or E S.
- 15:21SPEAKER_01: Yahoo.
- 15:22SPEAKER_01: I think it was Yahoo, actually.
- 15:23SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Yahoo Sports.
- 15:24SPEAKER_02: Um, anyway, we were talking about how that he's gonna either be the odd man out or the odd man in based off of this.
- 15:29SPEAKER_02: And one thing I wanted to mention that is let's go ahead and talk about what he how what a player he is currently, right?
- 15:34SPEAKER_02: Bryce, 6'6, 235 pounds, uh, 28th pick of the draft in the 23rd draft first round.
- 15:42SPEAKER_02: Uh three seasons with the Utah Jazz so far, he's averaging 12 points per game, 1.7 assists, shooting 55% from the field, as well as 37% from three, averaging 21.2 points per game.
- 15:56SPEAKER_02: So when it comes to what this kid's been able to do offensively, AJ, I think it's been really kind of impressive.
- 16:02SPEAKER_02: Again, these are on averaging 20 minutes a game on a also on a team that's not trying to win.
- 16:07SPEAKER_02: So these are these are not, I wouldn't say they're necessarily stat fillers, you know, for basically garbage time and it's like bad players, bad players on a bad team still are gonna score points.
- 16:18SPEAKER_02: I think these are very much because of the minutes and the way they facilitated him, these offensive numbers are only gonna go up when he's with surrounded by more talent.
- 16:26SPEAKER_01: Oh, absolutely.
- 16:27SPEAKER_01: Uh, and it's but it's much easier to score points when you have players on the floor that can also score points, right?
- 16:32SPEAKER_01: Right, it takes a lot of pressure off of you.
- 16:33SPEAKER_01: Well, when Bryce was out on the floor in this last couple of seasons, they kind of knew that he was out there strictly for offense.
- 16:39SPEAKER_01: And I think you saw that um by some of his kind of true shooting percentages, you know, like he he did struggle because he would see a lot more double teams.
- 16:47SPEAKER_01: Um, but but defensively, I think it's a whole different story, and I think it tells a lot because Bryce does have really good size.
- 16:54SPEAKER_01: I mean, at six foot six with a six's eleven wingspan.
- 16:57SPEAKER_01: Um, do you realize how that kind of matches up with the two defensive guys that we just got?
- 17:01SPEAKER_01: Uh Josh Okogi is six four with a seven-foot wingspan.
- 17:05SPEAKER_01: Josh Green, who is six six with a six ten wingspan.
- 17:08SPEAKER_01: So he's got a wingspan right in the middle, height on the higher end.
- 17:12SPEAKER_01: Like this guy is a physical specimen.
- 17:15SPEAKER_01: And and I think that he moves better than people kind of realize um for being 6'4, or sorry, for being 6'6.
- 17:23SPEAKER_01: Um, and I think that um this is one player that the Jazz are still kind of holding on to purely because he does have defensive potential.
- 17:32SPEAKER_01: Um, we moved away from Cody Williams and we moved away from Taylor Hendricks, and and that those those two moves were because this team was in win now mode, right?
- 17:40SPEAKER_01: We had to be.
- 17:41SPEAKER_01: We had to switch this roster.
- 17:42SPEAKER_01: We had to say, hey, we've got to win basketball games now.
- 17:45SPEAKER_01: These guys are probably a little bit out of our potential timeline.
- 17:48SPEAKER_01: We've got to, we've got to, we can't have all these players that are all just prospects that we're we're gonna put a development, a ton of developmental effort into.
- 17:56SPEAKER_01: Um so, but I think Bryce is the one guy that kind of made the cut, and it's because of his elite size, right?
- 18:01SPEAKER_01: Six foot, six, eleven, six eleven wingspan.
- 18:04SPEAKER_01: He's one of those players that if he can kind of develop and become even a serviceable defender, and the best part is is he's a guy that can really score the basketball.
- 18:14SPEAKER_01: He he's really talented offensively.
- 18:16SPEAKER_01: Um, so if you can become a service to the a serviceable defender like Josh Okogee, like Josh Green, some of these guys that are, you know, these guys are obviously on the higher end, these guys are closer to elite defenders of their size.
- 18:27SPEAKER_01: Um, but if you can get Bryce Sensibaugh in that kind of realm, I think the whole reason for bringing these guys in was to show Bryce Sensiball, hey, similar size, similar capabilities, you score the ball better, go out there, learn some of these tricks of the trade, right?
- 18:42SPEAKER_01: They're the same size.
- 18:43SPEAKER_01: Look, these guys don't have any problems, garden guys that are six, eight, six, nine.
- 18:47SPEAKER_01: You can do the same thing, you know, like Bryce, this works, dude.
- 18:51SPEAKER_01: You're you're the right size.
- 18:52SPEAKER_01: Um, so if they can go out there and kind of mentor Bryce, um, who is a better offensive player, teach him how to use his size to advantage.
- 18:59SPEAKER_01: This this whole thing plays out, and I think it's a really, really nice fit for Bryce Sensobal moving forward.
- 19:04SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean, if you look at it defensively, his numbers from last season for the year before, you're already starting to see an increase.
- 19:11SPEAKER_02: Yeah, absolutely.
- 19:12SPEAKER_02: I think he got the message last year after Coach Hardy benched Keontae and put him to the bench.
- 19:19SPEAKER_02: But he had to.
- 19:20SPEAKER_02: Because he's like, listen, you need to learn to play defense.
- 19:22SPEAKER_02: You cannot be a starter in the NBA if you just don't play defense.
- 19:24SPEAKER_02: Yep, absolutely.
- 19:25SPEAKER_02: So I think he kind of saw the running on the wall there and the stats went up.
- 19:29SPEAKER_02: And I think you're spot on on this one.
- 19:31SPEAKER_02: I think he is seeing who's gonna be bringing in, and he's gonna know that he's gonna just have to take it to another level there for sure.
- 19:36SPEAKER_02: There's the article that what their point was is that because they brought in an extra couple of wings that can be locked down defenders, that he can be more free to be offense.
- 19:45SPEAKER_02: But I don't think that's the way Will is gonna coach this team.
- 19:48SPEAKER_02: No, I think you need to be able to stay in front of your guy regardless of who you are on the floor.
- 19:52SPEAKER_02: Uh, but yeah, if you look at it, man, the stats, you know, he had four more blocks last season than he did the year before.
- 19:58SPEAKER_02: He had eight more steals and he had 21 more rebounds, and that's all in the same amount of minutes per game.
- 20:04SPEAKER_02: Uh, so he's gotten, I think he's gotten the message, in my opinion, that it's he's got the assignment of this season that that's what he's gonna have to be, that he's gonna have to get better defensively, um, and he will have minutes on this team for sure.
- 20:16SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, and I and that's the thing is I I just I think that's absolutely right.
- 20:20SPEAKER_01: They they they have to get him to a defensive position where he can guard guys and stay in front of them because if he can stay on the floor offensively, he's just such a weapon.
- 20:29SPEAKER_01: He can he can score from all three levels, he can shoot the three, you know, like so.
- 20:34SPEAKER_01: If he can become defensive, he like with his skill set, he's just he's got such a potential to have a spot on this team.
- 20:41SPEAKER_01: Oh, for sure.
- 20:41SPEAKER_01: Right, and this team, this team could be good, man.
- 20:44SPEAKER_01: Like this, this isn't a team that I I I really don't believe this team is just going to be, you know, lower half, barely make the play.
- 20:50SPEAKER_01: And I think this team has a chance to be really good, and I think Bryson's spot could be a huge part of it.
- 20:55SPEAKER_02: Agreed.
- 20:56SPEAKER_02: Yeah, agreed.
- 20:56SPEAKER_02: I know it's not great uh great for sports talk uh when the hosts always agree, but you know, on this thing, I don't think we're gonna be arguing too much.
- 21:04SPEAKER_01: No.
- 21:04SPEAKER_02: You got anything else on the jazz?
- 21:06SPEAKER_02: I don't.
- 21:06SPEAKER_02: All right.
- 21:07SPEAKER_02: I got one more thing, man.
- 21:08SPEAKER_02: One more thing.
- 21:09SPEAKER_02: This is gonna be kind of like a let's let's clear the air a little bit here, AJ.
- 21:13SPEAKER_02: Let's bring in some good vibes, let's get out some of the stuff.
- 21:16SPEAKER_02: Love some vibes.
- 21:17SPEAKER_02: I've I follow a lot of the lock local talking heads, right?
- 21:21SPEAKER_02: Yeah on this sport on this team.
- 21:23SPEAKER_02: I've I listen to a lot of radio, I watch a lot of podcasts, follow a lot of folks on YouTube, right?
- 21:29SPEAKER_02: And can we put to bed this BS about this whole point floating around uh from the talking heads in this market?
- 21:36SPEAKER_02: Um now it's gotta be like four or five shows, you know, that are doing this.
- 21:41SPEAKER_02: And I, you know, I get it, guys.
- 21:42SPEAKER_02: I really do.
- 21:43SPEAKER_02: You know, these shows you having to put up four or five shows a week, and it's the off season.
- 21:48SPEAKER_02: We already are starting to feel the lack of things to actually talk about when it comes to the show.
- 21:53SPEAKER_02: Uh, and we're only doing this show once a week, right?
- 21:55SPEAKER_02: Um, but I've heard way too many times people suggesting that Will Hardy is.
- 22:00SPEAKER_02: Not going to be starting Darren Peterson with this team.
- 22:04SPEAKER_02: There's only one way that happens, and that's if his is if he is not 100% when they're coming out of preseason.
- 22:11SPEAKER_02: He's going to be a star on this team.
- 22:13SPEAKER_02: He's going to be the star on this team.
- 22:15SPEAKER_02: And he's you got to play.
- 22:17SPEAKER_02: You've got to start a player at that level at this talent, at this talent level.
- 22:34SPEAKER_02: You know, of course he didn't start them, right?
- 22:37SPEAKER_02: Darren Pearson is starting.
- 22:39SPEAKER_02: That's what's going to happen.
- 22:40SPEAKER_02: Now, if you want to have the argument that potentially Ace Bailey may start versus not, that conversation can be had and seriously something that can be taken seriously.
- 22:50SPEAKER_02: We've actually talked about it on this show.
- 22:51SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
- 22:52SPEAKER_02: But this top this particular topic screams content for the sake of content for me.
- 22:57SPEAKER_02: And I think it's, you know, I've never heard anything more egregious when it comes to that.
- 23:01SPEAKER_02: There's just no way that and people always throw it back to Darren Williams, right?
- 23:06SPEAKER_02: Odd that it's both Darren guys.
- 23:08SPEAKER_02: But that was a different coach, different owner, different MBA, different front office.
- 23:12SPEAKER_02: And yeah, he was the number three pick, you know, but it was a completely different scenario, right?
- 23:17SPEAKER_02: This is not the same team.
- 23:19SPEAKER_02: This is not the same MBA.
- 23:20SPEAKER_02: These aren't going to be the same type of guys.
- 23:22SPEAKER_02: This guy would have been a number one overall pick, hands down, if it wasn't for this draft being as loaded as it was.
- 23:27SPEAKER_02: Yep.
- 23:28SPEAKER_02: And we are lucky that we got the number two pick in this situation.
- 23:31SPEAKER_02: He is going to start.
- 23:33SPEAKER_02: I don't know why you wouldn't.
- 23:34SPEAKER_02: And honestly, like I said, it's just sake uh content for the sake of content.
- 23:39unknown: Okay.
- 23:40SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and I think that's kind of what we've tried to avoid in a lot of it.
- 23:43SPEAKER_01: And that's the reason we haven't continued to just hammer some of these points, right?
- 23:46SPEAKER_01: Because yeah, we we could make content every week saying that is he going to be a starter, is he not?
- 23:50SPEAKER_01: Look, we we did.
- 23:51SPEAKER_01: We went into Ace Bailey really hard, right?
- 23:53SPEAKER_01: We we said I think he could be a sixth man of the year.
- 23:56SPEAKER_01: We got a ton of feedback on that video.
- 23:58SPEAKER_01: I mean, a ton of feedback.
- 23:59SPEAKER_01: And and the big thing was is hey, Ace is a really talented player.
- 24:02SPEAKER_01: He ended up starting for the Jazz last year.
- 24:04SPEAKER_01: And then we looked at it and we said, you know what, maybe Ace could start on this team.
- 24:08SPEAKER_01: And it wasn't just content for the sake of content, there was a valid argument there.
- 24:12SPEAKER_01: Ace Bailey's a great player.
- 24:13SPEAKER_01: He did start on the team last year, and I think he does fit in the lineup with Darren Peterson.
- 24:17SPEAKER_01: And I think if we continue to kind of dissect the Darren Peterson situation, this kid is a potential superstar.
- 24:24SPEAKER_01: You this is this is a once-in-a-lifetime.
- 24:26SPEAKER_01: Like you said, in any other draft, he's number one, no questions asked.
- 24:31SPEAKER_01: Um we're we're really happy to have Darren Peterson on this team, and you have to get him as many minutes as early as possible.
- 24:39SPEAKER_01: You've got to see what you have with this player, you've got to see where he needs to develop.
- 24:42SPEAKER_01: That's Quinn Hardy's job right out the gate is to say, hey, can this kid really score it like we think?
- 24:47SPEAKER_01: Hey, can this kid defend like we think?
- 24:49SPEAKER_01: There is a lot going on that we've got to know about what's going on with Darren Peterson so that we can say this kid's everything we dreamed he was gonna be and more.
- 24:57SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, absolutely, man.
- 24:58SPEAKER_02: Could have said it better myself, man.
- 25:00SPEAKER_02: And I just, yeah, I've heard it out there and I've had friends talk to me about it.
- 25:03SPEAKER_02: There's just so much of that floating around.
- 25:05SPEAKER_02: I'm just like, there's just no reason to talk about this other than just you don't have anything else to talk about, which I get, which we get.
- 25:10SPEAKER_02: Totally.
- 25:11SPEAKER_01: No, but uh uh if there's anybody in the world that gets it, it's us.
- 25:13SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because there is times where we come and we're just like, what are we gonna talk about with the gym?
- 25:17SPEAKER_02: Yes, what are we gonna talk about?
- 25:18SPEAKER_02: What have we seen?
- 25:19SPEAKER_02: What have we heard?
- 25:20SPEAKER_01: But but the thing is what we try to do is we try to think of things that burning questions between you and I, right?
- 25:25SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 25:25SPEAKER_01: Hey, what questions do we have?
- 25:27SPEAKER_01: Let's engage our audience with that kind of content.
- 25:29SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because you know, you can only hear so many people complaining about the same topic over and over again before you get bored with it.
- 25:34SPEAKER_02: And we and we hope that that's why you guys subscribe to the channel because it's a little different take.
- 25:38SPEAKER_02: And again, we don't have our hands in the pie anywhere.
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- 25:43SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we don't have yeah, except for Amazon.
- 25:45SPEAKER_02: Yeah, exactly.
- 25:47SPEAKER_02: We don't have anybody that's like you know, sponsored with the channel that we have to watch or watch our takes.
- 25:52SPEAKER_02: So um, again, I hope that's why you guys like what we do here, and I really appreciate everybody for showing up, joining us live, uh, and uh watching us after the fact as well.
- 26:01SPEAKER_02: A couple more comments to hit here before we wrap up the jazz content.
- 26:04SPEAKER_02: One from McKinley here, and so I think the Kid Glubs are off now and they're trying to win uh with no free minutes.
- 26:10SPEAKER_02: I think that Bryce doesn't improve.
- 26:12SPEAKER_02: I will see him losing his spot to Spear Green.
- 26:15SPEAKER_02: Actually, yeah.
- 26:16SPEAKER_02: Um honestly, I think Green might actually have an upper leg already.
- 26:20SPEAKER_02: Like, I think he's going to potentially lose some of those early 20 minutes because we did trade for this guy, right?
- 26:25SPEAKER_01: Like it's we yeah, we did trade for him, and he is a solid three-point shooter where um Bryce has not been as great from the three-point line.
- 26:35SPEAKER_01: I think his production increases, you know, as we get him into this position where he's on the floor with starting level NBA players.
- 26:42SPEAKER_01: Um I don't know if they have any commitment to you know to Bryce that way.
- 26:46SPEAKER_01: Like I said before, I think the Jazz are committed to developing Bryce, and I think that's a great thing.
- 26:51SPEAKER_01: But if you can't develop a player and win basketball games, the Jazz aren't gonna do that.
- 26:56SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, I'd have to agree with you on that one for sure.
- 26:58SPEAKER_02: Another comment to back that up.
- 26:59SPEAKER_02: Uh, yeah, especially the health concerns uh from his college season, I would see the Jazz wanting to start him slow like they did with Ace last year.
- 27:08SPEAKER_02: Uh, he got sick right before the season.
- 27:10SPEAKER_02: Yeah, good point.
- 27:10SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
- 27:11SPEAKER_02: So, yeah, I forgot about the sickness.
- 27:13SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he got sick right before the start of the season.
- 27:15SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 27:15SPEAKER_02: That's probably why he didn't go gung-ho.
- 27:18SPEAKER_02: He probably would have started sooner.
- 27:19SPEAKER_02: Uh, we've got Karen for Darren right here.
- 27:22SPEAKER_02: Uh Hardy doesn't Hardy doesn't want to pull another Darren uh with Darren.
- 27:26SPEAKER_02: Uh Sloan played rookie, Darren Williams less uh than a point guard.
- 27:31SPEAKER_02: Uh luminar oh, such as point guard uh luminaries.
- 27:37SPEAKER_02: What does that say?
- 27:38SPEAKER_01: Luminaries?
- 27:39SPEAKER_02: Luminaries like Keith McLeod, Milt Palacio, and Andre Owens.
- 27:43SPEAKER_02: Uh this caused a rift between Jay Sloan and D Will.
- 27:47SPEAKER_02: Yeah, um, we actually had uh a subscriber to the channel mention that to me as well, talking about how uh D Will kind of came in with a chip on his shoulders and what Jay Sloan did is basically just kind of bench him, put him way back on the bench.
- 28:00SPEAKER_02: He's like, you know what, you're gonna earn your spot here.
- 28:02SPEAKER_02: This isn't a free ride.
- 28:03SPEAKER_02: Then he came back bigger, stronger, healthier, lost a ton of weight, and just came out and balled out of his mind.
- 28:09SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 28:09SPEAKER_02: And they're saying that he probably wouldn't have played that well if he was given the keys to the kingdom right away.
- 28:14SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 28:15SPEAKER_02: And I don't know, man.
- 28:16SPEAKER_02: I seen it, I could see it that way, but I could also kind of see it the other way.
- 28:18SPEAKER_02: Like maybe Jay Sloan's approach was a a little long in the tooth.
- 28:23SPEAKER_02: You know, maybe he managed a year or two a little bit.
- 28:25SPEAKER_01: But like you said, a different NBA.
- 28:26SPEAKER_02: Different NBA and a different player.
- 28:28SPEAKER_01: Much different player.
- 28:29SPEAKER_02: I don't think Darren Williams is coming in here thinking like he's you know the greatest thing since sliced cheese, you know.
- 28:33SPEAKER_02: So um, we do love sliced cheese, though.
- 28:36SPEAKER_02: It is pretty good.
- 28:36SPEAKER_02: It is pretty good.
- 28:38SPEAKER_02: Uh, I mean, I personally think that uh triple J starts at center and we play ace.
- 28:42SPEAKER_02: Darren, I think the the hoops need, let's see, I think the hoops need is speaking truth.
- 28:49SPEAKER_02: Uh the hoops nerd is speaking truth on SSC Dunk.
- 28:52SPEAKER_01: I think Triple J is better at center than people think.
- 28:54SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, and that's something we talked about before.
- 28:56SPEAKER_02: If if that case was the case, we made the def we made the case for like, okay, this is how this team, this is how this player would be defensively at the five.
- 29:05SPEAKER_02: Um he's typically statistically a better power forward than he is a five.
- 29:10SPEAKER_02: And even though he's mentioned, the the rumor is he doesn't like playing a five, although you can't really find any media quotes on that either.
- 29:17SPEAKER_01: Well, he didn't actually say that.
- 29:18SPEAKER_01: It's never been quoted that he said that.
- 29:20SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I couldn't find that.
- 29:21SPEAKER_01: It's just purely a purely an assumption.
- 29:23SPEAKER_02: I got to deep subreddits to try and find that one, man.
- 29:26SPEAKER_02: Oh my gosh, it was tough.
- 29:28SPEAKER_02: Uh well, that's comment here from McKinley Cutler.
- 29:30SPEAKER_02: Uh see here.
- 29:31SPEAKER_02: And the Jets have had a unique uh lineup.
- 29:33SPEAKER_02: Each can cover uh for his rebounding.
- 29:35SPEAKER_02: And honestly, I think his rebounding is gonna go up this year.
- 29:38SPEAKER_02: I think the issues that he's had with other teams is, I mean, when he last year white when he played with uh that team, Zach Eady was in the way, there wasn't a whole lot of availability in the post, right?
- 29:49SPEAKER_02: And this time there's gonna be so much movement.
- 29:51SPEAKER_02: I think that helped the helper type defense is gonna open it up for more rebounds for him anyway.
- 29:56SPEAKER_02: So different lineup, different organization.
- 29:58SPEAKER_02: I think they're gonna try and maximize his talents, in my opinion.
- 30:01SPEAKER_01: No, I totally agree.
- 30:02SPEAKER_01: I think I think they have to.
- 30:03SPEAKER_01: I think you're in the position where you have to maximize those talents in any situation that you can get, because again, you've got to win ball games this year.
- 30:10SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
- 30:11SPEAKER_02: And we're looking forward to it, man.
- 30:12SPEAKER_02: Once again, everybody, thank you very much for joining us on Utah Jazz DNA.
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- 30:58SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's what it's called.
- 31:00SPEAKER_01: Close enough, Darren.
- 31:01SPEAKER_01: You're fine.
- 31:02SPEAKER_02: I'm there.
- 31:02SPEAKER_02: We'll get there.
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- 31:15SPEAKER_02: That's right.
- 31:21SPEAKER_02: A lot to talk about when it comes to the Utah football team, man.
- 31:24SPEAKER_02: Utah the Utah football team, the Utah football team.
- 31:27SPEAKER_02: Stay with your chest.
- 31:28SPEAKER_02: Yeah, absolutely.
- 31:29SPEAKER_02: The Utah football team.
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- 31:50SPEAKER_01: Make sure you smash that like button for your boy Darren.
- 31:53SPEAKER_01: That's right.
- 31:54SPEAKER_02: Oh man, I'm just betting a thousand over here.
- 31:56SPEAKER_01: Just killing it, dude.
- 31:58SPEAKER_01: Just killing it.
- 31:58SPEAKER_01: Help before off mute, though.
- 31:59SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
- 32:03SPEAKER_02: It auto-butes whatever we do.
- 32:04SPEAKER_02: The elite is.
- 32:05SPEAKER_02: Good work, Darren.
- 32:06SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 32:06SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
- 32:06SPEAKER_02: Way to go for me.
- 32:07SPEAKER_02: It's fine.
- 32:08SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 32:08SPEAKER_02: All right, man.
- 32:09SPEAKER_02: Well, hey, let's first talk about this.
- 32:10SPEAKER_02: I want to jump right into it and not spend too much time bantering because lots to cover when it comes to the Utes.
- 32:15SPEAKER_02: We want to talk a little bit about the conference as well.
- 32:17SPEAKER_02: So McKinley stick around.
- 32:19SPEAKER_02: Um, so when it comes to this, man, let's talk a little bit about Utah versus Arkansas.
- 32:23SPEAKER_02: Let's go ahead and do a quick recap on that.
- 32:25SPEAKER_02: Um, so Utah absolutely dominated uh this game after a slow start, AJ.
- 32:31SPEAKER_02: Um Arkansas actually did control the opening possession when they took an early 3-0 lead.
- 32:36SPEAKER_02: Uh, but Utah settled in uh really quickly and flipped the game completely.
- 32:40SPEAKER_02: Uh turning in a uh the turning point for this game was the second quarter.
- 32:44SPEAKER_02: Uh the Utes did put up 22 points in that quarter, uh, including three touchdowns, and they win the half up 29 to 3.
- 32:52SPEAKER_02: And from there, it was basically pretty much over.
- 32:55SPEAKER_02: Uh throw a dead touchdown each two of the each additional two quarters there, and uh let them score once, just so you can say, hey, you know, congrats, you guys got to score.
- 33:04SPEAKER_02: And the youths get the win uh 43 to 10.
- 33:08SPEAKER_02: Uh the youths finished with a total of 422 total yards against Arkansas.
- 33:13SPEAKER_02: That is 301 passing, 141 rushing, uh an average of 7.1 yards per play, which is huge, um, and 24 first downs.
- 33:24SPEAKER_02: Arkansas had 305 total yards, and uh Utah outgained them by 137 yards, AJ.
- 33:31SPEAKER_01: Arkansas outgained them?
- 33:33SPEAKER_02: No, they outgained Arkansas by 100 yards.
- 33:34SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay.
- 33:35SPEAKER_01: I was like, wait.
- 33:36SPEAKER_02: Outgained Arkansas by 100 yards.
- 33:37SPEAKER_01: That doesn't seem right at all.
- 33:38SPEAKER_01: Okay, yeah.
- 33:39SPEAKER_01: No, that makes perfect sense.
- 33:41SPEAKER_01: Um this game was fun.
- 33:44SPEAKER_01: This game was really fun to be at.
- 33:46SPEAKER_01: Um the the atmosphere at Rice Eccles was electric.
- 33:53SPEAKER_01: Um it was probably one of the loudest games I've gone to, especially in that first half while while it was still a game and while we were still really, you know, this team was really focused on making sure that we put the beat down that we were trying to put on them.
- 34:05SPEAKER_01: And it was really, it was a lot of fun.
- 34:08SPEAKER_01: Um I think as far as performances in this game, I think the one that really stuck out to me was probably Noah Benny.
- 34:13SPEAKER_01: Um the tight end.
- 34:14SPEAKER_01: He started his career as Utah at Utah as a walk-on.
- 34:17SPEAKER_01: Um, he ended up transferring up to Utah up to Weber State.
- 34:20SPEAKER_01: Uh, and then he came back to play with his brother Jackson.
- 34:22SPEAKER_01: And you know, he had four receptions for 113 yards in this game and scored a touchdown.
- 34:27SPEAKER_01: The offense just did not miss a beat.
- 34:30SPEAKER_01: Uh, I think we had two punts the whole game.
- 34:32SPEAKER_01: Um, both of them kind of came on passes that were, you know, routes that were miscommunicated.
- 34:37SPEAKER_01: You know, the the receiver went left and Dampier threw it through it right, that kind of stuff.
- 34:41SPEAKER_01: So um it was nice.
- 34:44SPEAKER_01: Uh it was really nice to see, you know, the offensive line.
- 34:47SPEAKER_01: Uh they they played really well.
- 34:48SPEAKER_01: That was kind of one of our concerns coming into the season.
- 34:51SPEAKER_01: Was how does Dampere play?
- 34:52SPEAKER_01: You know, was he gonna have enough time with his offensive line?
- 34:55SPEAKER_01: Um, but but he had plenty of time.
- 34:57SPEAKER_01: Uh Kevin McKevin McGivin just kept drawing up absolute gems of plays all game long.
- 35:04SPEAKER_01: Uh, he did a really good job.
- 35:05SPEAKER_01: It was nice to see Weyshawn Parker.
- 35:07SPEAKER_01: His production was stellar.
- 35:08SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, we did a video on on Weyshawn a couple of weeks ago saying that he could really have a breakout season.
- 35:13SPEAKER_01: And and so far he's just right on track, man.
- 35:15SPEAKER_01: Um, he's catching the ball the backfield really well.
- 35:18SPEAKER_01: Uh, he he he does a great job blocking, and of course, he's just he's just out there punishing people while he's running the ball.
- 35:24SPEAKER_01: So uh this this season was this season was really real this game was really, really fun to watch.
- 35:29SPEAKER_01: Um and I uh I think this was everything we needed, wanted, and needed from this this game against Arkansas.
- 35:35SPEAKER_02: Nice.
- 35:36SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 35:36SPEAKER_02: I mean, I'd have to say that there's uh a lot to be happy about when it came to this game.
- 35:41SPEAKER_02: Uh we saw a lot of this, and again, AJ, I know you and I are not on the same page when it comes to this.
- 35:45SPEAKER_02: I don't see I don't like seeing Devin Dampier and Bert Ficklin out on the field at the same time.
- 35:50SPEAKER_02: We are playing with fire there, AJ.
- 35:52SPEAKER_02: This team does not have a good track record when it comes to not using up their third and four string quarterbacks to start games.
- 36:01SPEAKER_02: We don't need our QB1 and QB two out there running these trick plays back there.
- 36:05SPEAKER_02: I just think it's asking.
- 36:08SPEAKER_02: It's just playing with fire, my guy.
- 36:10SPEAKER_02: I I don't know.
- 36:10SPEAKER_02: It's exciting to watch, don't get me wrong.
- 36:12SPEAKER_02: But in the back of my mind, I'm just like, should we be doing this?
- 36:15SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 36:15SPEAKER_02: Especially this early in the season.
- 36:17SPEAKER_01: No, I and I get your point there, but the thing is, is it is so much fun to watch those two.
- 36:21SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh, it's so fun.
- 36:22SPEAKER_01: And the thing is, is like the the possibilities, the combinations are endless when Bert Ficklin's on the field, dude.
- 36:28SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like you watch him line up in different positions every single time.
- 36:32SPEAKER_01: Dude, as a defense, you've got to just have your like your head in your hands.
- 36:36SPEAKER_01: You're just like, what are they doing with him?
- 36:38SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he'll run into the backfield, he'll launch it 40 yards down the field, he'll run a slot route and catch a ball over the middle.
- 36:44SPEAKER_01: He could come, you know, running around and then catch it and run it up the like run it straight up the middle.
- 36:49SPEAKER_01: You know, he could just fake the handoff to you know from Dampier.
- 36:52SPEAKER_01: Dude, you have no idea.
- 36:53SPEAKER_01: And the fact is, is the guy can throw the ball.
- 36:56SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like you you've got to be scared of that at some point.
- 36:59SPEAKER_01: So you've got to respect, you've got to keep defenders down, which now you've got all those people on the backside of your defense in one-on-ones, and he can still throw the ball.
- 37:08SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and then on top of that, like I really love what uh McGivin uh McGivin said on this um af before the game.
- 37:17SPEAKER_02: There was an interview that was pre-game on that.
- 37:20SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 37:20SPEAKER_02: I don't know if you saw this, but he's like, What do we look why we showed this so early, right?
- 37:24SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they're like, there's like this conversation where they were asking him, like, why, you know, going into against SEC and going up against, you know, whoever they played Idaho, like, are you showing the whole playbook?
- 37:34SPEAKER_02: Are you just, you know, you give them a little bit?
- 37:35SPEAKER_02: What's your taste?
- 37:37SPEAKER_02: What he did, he's like, we're gonna show him a little bit of everything.
- 37:39SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 37:40SPEAKER_02: He's like, because what I just did is I just did for every other opponent we're gonna speak.
- 37:44SPEAKER_02: Now they're gonna have to spend 10 minutes game planning off of this play.
- 37:47SPEAKER_02: Now they're gonna have to spend 10 minutes on how we're gonna play both Bird and Devin Damp here when we actually do a handoff and then Bird flicking and throws it down the field versus him.
- 37:56SPEAKER_02: And now we have to run a now they have to game plan for each one of these different scenarios that they're gonna have both of those on the field versus not.
- 38:03SPEAKER_01: Could you imagine planning as a defensive coordinator, dude?
- 38:07SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 38:07SPEAKER_01: It is an absolute nightmare.
- 38:09SPEAKER_01: Not to mention you've still got Wey Sean Parker you can hand the ball off to and averages four yards of carry.
- 38:13SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 38:13SPEAKER_02: So it's just, you know, you've got so much you're already having to plan for against this team offensively, and just to add in those additional plays that you're like, okay, he can run the ball, he could be a slot receiver, you know, he can run deep.
- 38:25SPEAKER_02: You know, they could there's so much stuff you can do when they have it both on there, just knowing that you're robbing their defensive coordinator of valuable time to prepare.
- 38:32SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 38:34SPEAKER_02: Is I think the fact that he's thinking about that kind of stuff, so cool.
- 38:37SPEAKER_01: This is this has been one of the funnest offenses that Utah's ever ran in my long memory.
- 38:43SPEAKER_01: Like it just hasn't been this fun to watch.
- 38:46SPEAKER_01: It's always something different.
- 38:47SPEAKER_01: There they use every single inch of the field to the edges.
- 38:51SPEAKER_01: Um, they've got wide receivers that that are good and can catch the ball.
- 38:55SPEAKER_01: They've got tight ends that are just going to punish you over the middle if you don't you know bring a receiver, you know.
- 39:01SPEAKER_01: And the fact is, even if you bring a linebacker onto some of these tight ends, it's like they're not big enough.
- 39:07SPEAKER_01: And and the thing is, is if he doesn't go tick pick up that route, now he pulls the ball, hands it back to Weyshawn, and he's going up the middle for six, seven.
- 39:14SPEAKER_01: You can't do that all game.
- 39:16SPEAKER_01: Like, you pick your poison.
- 39:17SPEAKER_01: This Utah offense is going to get you.
- 39:20SPEAKER_01: I absolutely love it.
- 39:22SPEAKER_01: That was such a fun game to be at, dude.
- 39:23SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
- 39:24SPEAKER_02: And and uh again to everybody who watched our short there of him uh rehapping the game afterwards, appreciate thank you for doing that.
- 39:30SPEAKER_02: And the 5,000 views we got on that Arkansas video.
- 39:34SPEAKER_02: Loved the chat down there.
- 39:36SPEAKER_02: Didn't have a chance to screen grab the other one we wanted to share.
- 39:39SPEAKER_02: Somebody put in an absolute gem of a Pulitzer surprise winning like comment in there about being an Arkansas fan and not being delusional about how he's you know.
- 39:49SPEAKER_01: It's like guys, can you just you know if you guys have a minute, go go read through our comments and yeah, on that video?
- 39:55SPEAKER_01: Check it out, dude.
- 39:56SPEAKER_01: It's it's funny because there's there's a bunch of them of people just saying that Arkansas by 50.
- 40:01SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I don't know what, yeah.
- 40:02SPEAKER_01: Darren was very respectful when he responded.
- 40:04SPEAKER_01: How did that work out for you?
- 40:06SPEAKER_02: I tried to be nice, you know.
- 40:07SPEAKER_02: I I think and we were spot on.
- 40:08SPEAKER_02: I'm like, hey, they have a chance to do some good stuff defensively that may throw the Utes off, and it took uh a you know, three drives to figure it out, I guess.
- 40:16SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
- 40:16SPEAKER_02: You know, they got to the second quarter and pretty much dominated after that.
- 40:19SPEAKER_02: But um, but yeah, speaking of being uh teams that are good, AJ, who would have thought when we're talking about week three that this would be going up against Utah State is when they're gonna be going up against the best team they've seen so far.
- 40:33SPEAKER_01: Um, no, that is not correct, my friend.
- 40:35SPEAKER_01: Oh, maybe the best team they've seen so far.
- 40:37SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 40:38SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Utah State, yeah.
- 40:39SPEAKER_02: Okay, but I mean, Utah State did lose to Idaho State.
- 40:42SPEAKER_02: Are you gonna let me intro the segment or not?
- 40:44SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I am, but we should probably get to some of these comments so we don't get too far off the subject.
- 40:48SPEAKER_02: Fair enough.
- 40:48SPEAKER_02: Fair enough.
- 40:49SPEAKER_02: Let's go ahead and do that.
- 40:49SPEAKER_02: Let's go ahead and hit some of these up.
- 40:51SPEAKER_02: You go ahead and read that, dude.
- 40:52SPEAKER_02: First one.
- 40:53SPEAKER_01: First one.
- 40:54SPEAKER_01: Good week for college football in the state of Utah.
- 40:56SPEAKER_01: Both teams performed good, and Texas Tech looked way worse than last year.
- 41:00SPEAKER_01: Looking forward to Holy War 2.0 and the Big 12 championship game.
- 41:03SPEAKER_01: Boom.
- 41:04SPEAKER_01: That is absolutely right.
- 41:05SPEAKER_01: Would love to see that.
- 41:06SPEAKER_01: We're gonna have to cover that a bit.
- 41:08SPEAKER_01: Yeah, uh a little off topic, guys.
- 41:10SPEAKER_01: You see the open letter sent to local and federal governments signed off by the big five sports leagues requesting regulation on sports family.
- 41:16SPEAKER_01: Boom.
- 41:17SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
- 41:17SPEAKER_01: This is a great, this is a great topic.
- 41:19SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that is something we're definitely gonna talk about.
- 41:21SPEAKER_02: I want to give it a little bit more time before we actually dive into it because we need a little bit more information.
- 41:26SPEAKER_02: Well, because there's a little bit, there's the whole the enough's enough article.
- 41:29SPEAKER_02: I don't know if you saw the article.
- 41:30SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 41:30SPEAKER_02: Uh where they talked about it's very rare that both and all professional leagues have both the leagues and the players' associations all signing off on this.
- 41:38SPEAKER_02: Yep.
- 41:38SPEAKER_02: And we talked about this at great detail when Coach Whit was here and his way of announcing injuries.
- 41:42SPEAKER_02: Like, hey, dude, you can't do that.
- 41:44SPEAKER_02: You're putting the officials and you're putting your own coaching staff's lives at risk by doing this.
- 41:48SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 41:48SPEAKER_02: You know, you've got to be more transparent.
- 41:51SPEAKER_02: He just simply wasn't.
- 41:52SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 41:52SPEAKER_02: So we'll definitely cover that a little bit more detail.
- 41:54SPEAKER_02: I absolutely thanks for bringing it up, McKinney.
- 41:56SPEAKER_01: We appreciate it, buddy.
- 41:57SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we'll we'll table that for another episode for sure.
- 41:59SPEAKER_02: Um, because we got a lot to cover here.
- 42:01SPEAKER_02: We got another comment here.
- 42:03SPEAKER_02: Sounds like we're getting an increasing amount of death threats.
- 42:06SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, exactly what we were talking about in family members of the teams for sure.
- 42:09SPEAKER_01: Um, I'll read this one.
- 42:11SPEAKER_01: Greg Hawkins, no, I like both Dampier and Ficklin out there.
- 42:15SPEAKER_01: Dynamic offense, shackles off.
- 42:17SPEAKER_01: Get on the train, Darren.
- 42:18SPEAKER_01: Choo choo.
- 42:21SPEAKER_01: Love it.
- 42:22SPEAKER_01: Fair enough.
- 42:22SPEAKER_01: Love it.
- 42:23SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
- 42:23SPEAKER_02: Channel legend, Greg Hawkins, everybody.
- 42:25SPEAKER_02: Um, McKinley Cutler, uh, interested to see how this offense, uh, interested to see this offense when they aren't playing defensive line mains with paper, wet paper.
- 42:34SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean, you're not wrong.
- 42:37SPEAKER_02: You're not wrong.
- 42:38SPEAKER_02: Um, we'll talk about that here in just a second.
- 42:40SPEAKER_02: Uh, I'd rather see Weishawn run more either uh than either of our QBs.
- 42:44SPEAKER_02: 100%, dude.
- 42:45SPEAKER_02: That's what I'll I love that you're watching Wei Sean run for like 70 yards on a drive, and then Devin Dampier walks in on the last eight eight yards, and he's like, Yeah, like, dude, whatever happened to helping the guy out that got you there.
- 42:58SPEAKER_02: Um, but yeah, yeah.
- 43:00SPEAKER_02: Um, yeah, let's see, let's say Rose and let Rose bloom off of the pitch over screen and throw a trick pass every once in a while.
- 43:09SPEAKER_02: Oh, and Aggies by 50.
- 43:11SPEAKER_02: Love it.
- 43:12SPEAKER_02: Pacific Northwest Ute nailed it for sure.
- 43:14SPEAKER_02: Aggies by 50.
- 43:15SPEAKER_02: I love it.
- 43:16SPEAKER_02: I love it.
- 43:17SPEAKER_02: So now again, our uh number 17 ranked Utes are taking on uh an 0-2 uh Utah Aggies team.
- 43:25SPEAKER_01: Utah State Aggies team.
- 43:27SPEAKER_02: What did I say?
- 43:27SPEAKER_01: You said Utah Aggies.
- 43:29SPEAKER_02: Okay, it's part of the Utah.
- 43:30SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 43:31SPEAKER_01: They're Utah State though.
- 43:32SPEAKER_02: I think I made a distinction between when I said Aggies instead of Utes.
- 43:36SPEAKER_01: You did, but let's see.
- 43:37SPEAKER_01: But we need to be a little bit more clear on that.
- 43:38SPEAKER_02: Okay, fair enough, fair enough.
- 43:40SPEAKER_02: So yeah, just again, I want to see you missed the you I think you just you know skipped over the lead there.
- 43:45SPEAKER_02: Our number 17 ranked Utes.
- 43:48SPEAKER_01: Go Utes.
- 43:49SPEAKER_02: Took down are taking on an 0-2 Utah State Aggies.
- 43:53SPEAKER_02: But AJ, um let's not sleep on the dogs up north, AJ.
- 43:58SPEAKER_02: Yeah, the Aggies held the number.
- 44:00SPEAKER_02: 19 ranked Washington to 16 points while on the road in Washington last week.
- 44:06SPEAKER_02: Their defense is solid, and the Aggies, um, you know, they, you know, the Aggies are known, you know, on this team, right?
- 44:15SPEAKER_02: They know this Utes team.
- 44:17SPEAKER_02: You know, the scripture quoting head coach Bronco Mendenhall is facing this team a lot from the boys down south there.
- 44:27SPEAKER_01: You are killing me.
- 44:29SPEAKER_01: If you know, you know.
- 44:29SPEAKER_01: You just you just throw this shit in here, dude.
- 44:32SPEAKER_01: I'm just supposed to not say anything.
- 44:35SPEAKER_02: I mean, I'm pretty sure, like, you know, I'm pretty sure McKinley, you back me up on this, man.
- 44:40SPEAKER_02: That is some of that stuff was really corny, you know, even for the active LDS folks out there.
- 44:44SPEAKER_02: They're just like, okay, Bronco, tone it down, man, you know, just a little bit.
- 44:49SPEAKER_02: Um, but yeah, I do think the Utah's uh Utah State's defense is going to be um good enough.
- 44:55SPEAKER_02: Um, and they're definitely gonna be the best that we've seen so far uh when it comes to that.
- 44:59SPEAKER_02: And they're gonna make Dan Pure and and uh Co.
- 45:02SPEAKER_02: uh work early.
- 45:04SPEAKER_02: I think I think it's gonna be a good testament to what this team's gonna be able to do offensively because this will be the better defense we've seen so far this year, and you know, I'm you know love to see it, man.
- 45:16SPEAKER_01: I completely disagree.
- 45:18SPEAKER_01: Um, I think that as good as you may think this offense is or this defense is, did you watch any of the Utah State at Washington game?
- 45:26SPEAKER_01: Washington beat themselves the whole game.
- 45:30SPEAKER_01: This is the Oregon thing all over again.
- 45:31SPEAKER_01: Justin Williams Jr., I'm telling you, this kid, this kid is a stud quarterback and he runs the ball really well, and he runs like a 4-440, and he is super fast.
- 45:41SPEAKER_01: He does not throw the ball well.
- 45:42SPEAKER_01: And the offensive line, the defensive line, the sorry, the offensive line for Washington looked horrible.
- 45:49SPEAKER_01: They were just getting beat time and time again, and they were putting a ton of pressure on them.
- 45:54SPEAKER_01: It's not that they were good, the Washington blocks were just really bad.
- 45:58SPEAKER_01: They were just missing assignments.
- 46:00SPEAKER_01: We we had guys stepping out of position and letting like defensive ends just run straight at him, forcing him to the other side, crazy throws.
- 46:09SPEAKER_01: I think that this team is, yes, you may be correct, one of the better teams we've seen so far this season.
- 46:16SPEAKER_01: I think absolute, this is an absolute bus roll for Utah.
- 46:22SPEAKER_02: Okay, again, let me clarify: this is going to be the best defense that the youths have seen so far.
- 46:29SPEAKER_01: But not even the most talented defensive team.
- 46:31SPEAKER_01: Like Arkansas is a more talented defense by far.
- 46:34SPEAKER_01: And I understand you said best, and I understand you say the season, but Arkansas was a much more talented.
- 46:40SPEAKER_01: Do you understand the payroll difference from the Arkansas defense to Utah State is probably 10 to 15 million dollars difference?
- 46:48SPEAKER_02: Something we're gonna talk about in probably about a half an hour, AJ.
- 46:51SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
- 46:52SPEAKER_02: Payroll.
- 46:52SPEAKER_02: Especially at the rate we're going.
- 46:55SPEAKER_02: Payroll does not matter.
- 46:56SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 46:57SPEAKER_02: Uh, but no, man, I think you're dead on, man.
- 46:59SPEAKER_02: And when I say I think they're gonna make them work, they're gonna make them work early.
- 47:02SPEAKER_02: I just think they're gonna have a little bit of a harder time, you know, basically having their way with the team that they had before.
- 47:09SPEAKER_02: I think they're gonna make it into the second second half before this team runs away with it.
- 47:12SPEAKER_01: I I think this team is absolutely broken by halftime.
- 47:15SPEAKER_01: I think the youths will have Utah State full on given up by halftime.
- 47:19SPEAKER_02: Interesting.
- 47:20SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 47:20SPEAKER_01: I I I really do.
- 47:21SPEAKER_01: And I don't think Utah State's a bad team.
- 47:23SPEAKER_01: I I really like McKay Hillstead.
- 47:24SPEAKER_01: He's a BYU transfer.
- 47:26SPEAKER_01: He's one of those, he actually originally signed with Utah State, transferred out of Utah State after he had a few good games, went to BYU.
- 47:32SPEAKER_01: Um, Bear Bachmeyer obviously came out of the woodwork, ended up winning the starting job.
- 47:36SPEAKER_01: He ends up transferring back to Utah State.
- 47:38SPEAKER_01: Um, he really struggled in that game again uh against Idaho State, uh, threw a couple of interceptions.
- 47:44SPEAKER_01: He ends up getting pulled in the fourth quarter.
- 47:47SPEAKER_01: Utah State has their offense actually looked okay, but the problem is it just looked okay against Idaho State.
- 47:55SPEAKER_01: And and then it and they still didn't win that game that they were really, really supposed to win, especially at home.
- 48:01SPEAKER_01: Uh, and and you kind of go on, and the offensive line struggled to protect.
- 48:06SPEAKER_01: Um, their their best pass protector on this team is Javen Jacobs.
- 48:11SPEAKER_01: Guess what position he plays?
- 48:12SPEAKER_01: Running back.
- 48:14SPEAKER_01: Uh, he he was the best the best pass protector that they had the whole time.
- 48:18SPEAKER_01: And he's a really good player.
- 48:19SPEAKER_01: He's he's really versatile, he can catch out of the backfield, he runs hard, and he does a really, really good job in pass protection.
- 48:24SPEAKER_01: And uh, from from an offensive perspective, their best receiver is Eli Wood.
- 48:29SPEAKER_01: This kid is a receiver, he's probably one of the better receivers that I've seen in both of the games that we play uh uh against both of the teams that we played so far.
- 48:40SPEAKER_01: He goes up and gets it, he's not scared.
- 48:42SPEAKER_01: I mean, on scramble drills, he gets open, gives your quarterback a position, you know, someone to throw it to.
- 48:46SPEAKER_01: Um, offensively, this team looked like they have they have the ability to score, but Washington didn't look good.
- 48:54SPEAKER_01: Um and and Husky Stadium is a tough place to play.
- 48:57SPEAKER_01: Uh and they they just they just didn't look great.
- 49:00SPEAKER_01: Um, I don't know what happened against Idaho State.
- 49:03SPEAKER_01: I don't know how you look that bad against a team that is so um inferior in a in talent level, and they lost that game.
- 49:12SPEAKER_01: So I don't know, man.
- 49:14SPEAKER_01: I I think uh I'm just gonna go out and say it.
- 49:17SPEAKER_01: My prediction this game is gonna be Utah 45, Utah State 10.
- 49:20SPEAKER_01: I I don't I don't think this thing is anywhere near close.
- 49:23SPEAKER_01: Um, I think it'll be over very quickly.
- 49:26SPEAKER_01: Um, I think we could see some extended minutes for Brandon Rose in this one.
- 49:29SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
- 49:30SPEAKER_02: Um gosh, you just don't let me be nice to the other in-team schools, man.
- 49:34SPEAKER_02: I I mean in-state schools.
- 49:35SPEAKER_02: I'm trying to be nice here.
- 49:37SPEAKER_02: I my you know, my friend of the channel is a BYU fan, and he's coming in here, and I'm just trying to be nice, so we're not dunking on other teams here in the state of Utah.
- 49:45SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no.
- 49:46SPEAKER_02: You're not giving me any room to breathe on that.
- 49:47SPEAKER_01: My wife is a Utah State alum.
- 49:49SPEAKER_02: So I'm just saying, yeah, you know, not everything is just like, no, Darren, you're wrong.
- 49:53SPEAKER_02: I'm completely dunk on your thing.
- 49:54SPEAKER_02: I'm sometimes I'm just trying to be a little nicer to her in state schools.
- 49:58SPEAKER_02: Whatever.
- 49:58SPEAKER_02: My prediction, Utah wins 35 to 18.
- 50:01SPEAKER_01: That's my prediction.
- 50:02SPEAKER_01: Hey, you're calling a much closer game than I am.
- 50:04SPEAKER_02: I say I'm calling a closer game.
- 50:05SPEAKER_02: I don't, you know, the reason why I think so is exactly to your point uh when it comes to this team.
- 50:09SPEAKER_02: While I do believe that they are gonna, this will be the best defense they face statistically.
- 50:15SPEAKER_02: I do absolutely agree with you on this one.
- 50:17SPEAKER_02: Uh, I do think that this one's gonna be over by the second half, and a lot of this points are gonna be garbage mitts.
- 50:23SPEAKER_02: And, you know, we're just gonna see what happens with Rose, you know, for like probably a quarter and a half.
- 50:28SPEAKER_01: A full quarter, absolutely quarter and a half.
- 50:29SPEAKER_01: I'm not gonna play around.
- 50:30SPEAKER_01: We got a couple comments for sure.
- 50:32SPEAKER_02: I love this one because I think this is a shot directly at me, Greg.
- 50:35SPEAKER_02: Uh, the defense is solid, and you know, and you know, uh, it's not happening.
- 50:40SPEAKER_02: You by 100.
- 50:41SPEAKER_02: I think that's a great shot of me.
- 50:42SPEAKER_01: Definitely a shot at you.
- 50:43SPEAKER_02: Um, I like Utah State.
- 50:44SPEAKER_02: I think it's what I think the one game that uh stuck in my craw was like 2011.
- 50:50SPEAKER_02: Chucky Keaton, man.
- 50:52SPEAKER_01: Back in the day, Kerwin Williams, Chucky Keaton.
- 50:54SPEAKER_01: Those were some good teams, man.
- 50:56SPEAKER_02: Love Chucky.
- 50:56SPEAKER_02: He just couldn't stay healthy, bro.
- 50:58SPEAKER_02: Like he was so good.
- 50:58SPEAKER_01: And it's funny because that's when my wife went to that school.
- 51:01SPEAKER_01: So she was like there cheering for those teams.
- 51:05SPEAKER_01: Nice.
- 51:06SPEAKER_01: So I I I love it.
- 51:07SPEAKER_01: And those, but those were those were some fun teams, man.
- 51:09SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean, Bronco's uh Bronco's a great head coach.
- 51:13SPEAKER_02: He's definitely one that made his name with BYU and then came up, went to go be uh Wahoo, right?
- 51:19SPEAKER_02: And then just I don't know how long he stayed there, but obviously did not take an increase his pedigree there because he's back to Utah State.
- 51:26SPEAKER_02: So um, I don't know, man.
- 51:28SPEAKER_02: I just don't I'm I don't think highly of him as a head coach at this point in his career.
- 51:32SPEAKER_02: I think his better years are behind him with BYU.
- 51:35SPEAKER_02: Um, and yeah, I just don't think this one's gonna be close.
- 51:38SPEAKER_02: But it's gonna be still a fun game to watch because I love and I love what when we play teams in our own state.
- 51:42SPEAKER_01: Yeah, the these in-state rivalry games are always close because a lot of the guys know each other, you know, they all played together in high school.
- 51:48SPEAKER_01: Um, it it is it is always fun from that perspective.
- 51:51SPEAKER_01: But um at the end of the day on this game, uh Utah is a much more talented football team.
- 51:57SPEAKER_01: This game will be over quickly.
- 51:58SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you heard our predictions, man.
- 52:00SPEAKER_02: It's gonna be great.
- 52:01SPEAKER_02: Um, McKinley, can you remind me what Bronco wanted to change instead of having the names on the back of the jerseys?
- 52:09SPEAKER_02: There was like three words that he wanted to use instead.
- 52:14SPEAKER_02: He was just he was just a weird cat down there.
- 52:16SPEAKER_02: Like he just it was it was interesting.
- 52:18SPEAKER_02: I don't know if you remember McKinley.
- 52:20SPEAKER_02: It was weird, but it was weird.
- 52:22SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 52:22SPEAKER_02: Anyway, AJ, I think it's funny.
- 52:24SPEAKER_02: Uh, you look around the conference right now, AJ.
- 52:26SPEAKER_02: BYU had a great test against uh Arizona.
- 52:30SPEAKER_02: Um, and that's a team that we thought uh were gonna be in the mix for the conference.
- 52:34SPEAKER_01: Yeah, top five team this conference, yeah.
- 52:35SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
- 52:36SPEAKER_02: Uh OK State takes down Oregon, which was huge.
- 52:39SPEAKER_02: Like you mentioned, again, that was almost just as much Oregon making getting in their own way, too.
- 52:43SPEAKER_02: You know, again, is this gonna be the new tagline, AJ, of the defense not playing anybody?
- 52:48SPEAKER_02: Is that our new thing for this season?
- 52:50SPEAKER_01: No, no, I'm I'm done with the tagline.
- 52:52SPEAKER_01: That was that was so two years ago, man.
- 52:54SPEAKER_02: Okay, I'll just say maybe that's the new tagline this year.
- 52:56SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
- 52:57SPEAKER_02: But yeah, okay state takes down Oregon, Houston and Texas Tech both are undefeated so far.
- 53:03SPEAKER_02: Um, I know that I said that Utah State's gonna be the biggest challenge for the three teams that we face so far, uh, but what can we say?
- 53:09SPEAKER_02: Uh we've, you know, we got to face who we're gonna, you know, who we're in front of and who we schedule.
- 53:14SPEAKER_02: But what do we know about this team at this point so far this year?
- 53:19SPEAKER_01: Uh I think we've learned quite a bit about this team.
- 53:21SPEAKER_01: Uh I think this team has been has been pleasantly surprising, um, which which is obviously a good thing because we're winning games the way we're supposed to win them.
- 53:30SPEAKER_01: We're winning games, you know, and we weren't supposed to beat Arkansas the way we beat them.
- 53:35SPEAKER_01: You know, Utah went out there and they took care of business.
- 53:37SPEAKER_01: See, I don't I don't think that's the case.
- 53:39SPEAKER_02: I think it was pretty well driven.
- 53:40SPEAKER_02: Like you look on paper, there's no way that team was beating it was gonna be even close to the youths.
- 53:46SPEAKER_01: I favored by 24 and a half.
- 53:49SPEAKER_01: That was the that was the opening line.
- 53:51SPEAKER_01: So we beat them the way we were supposed to beat them.
- 53:54SPEAKER_02: Okay, so what was all this discourse then on they're supposed to be a good team?
- 53:58SPEAKER_01: No, I mean they're just an SEC team.
- 54:00SPEAKER_01: The the thing is that to me means nothing.
- 54:02SPEAKER_01: They're they're an SEC team that has SEC money that pays players way more than Utah pays players, right?
- 54:11SPEAKER_01: Like their their NIL again, the money budget is is way higher than Utah's.
- 54:17SPEAKER_01: So you look at it, this team should have more talented players.
- 54:20SPEAKER_01: They just went and got a head coach, it's got a really long rap sheet of winning football games.
- 54:24SPEAKER_01: Um, Ryan Silverfield's, you know, supposedly done such a great job with Memphis.
- 54:27SPEAKER_01: The problem is, is the Memphis is in a subpar conference.
- 54:30SPEAKER_01: And when you go get a bunch of players from a subpar conference and put them in the SEC, guess what happens?
- 54:35SPEAKER_01: You don't win football games.
- 54:36SPEAKER_01: No, you don't have enough talent.
- 54:38SPEAKER_01: Now you paid all these players from Memphis to come to play in the SEC, and you have to play teams that are really good every single week.
- 54:47SPEAKER_01: And Ryan Smith, right?
- 54:49SPEAKER_01: Sorry, Ryan's not Ryan Smith, Ryan Silverfield was not ready for that.
- 54:53SPEAKER_01: No.
- 54:53SPEAKER_01: So um, what have we learned from this team?
- 54:56SPEAKER_01: I mean, our biggest concern coming into this the end of this season was can the O-line give Devin Dampier and company enough time to really execute this offense?
- 55:04SPEAKER_01: And we're not talking just execute and get it done.
- 55:08SPEAKER_01: Can he make this offense fun?
- 55:11SPEAKER_01: Can he make it exactly what we need it to be?
- 55:13SPEAKER_01: We know these guys are good, right?
- 55:15SPEAKER_01: But if you don't have blocking up front, there's just no way you can successfully run an offense, especially with what we were talking.
- 55:22SPEAKER_01: You know, we knew this team planned on throwing the ball more.
- 55:25SPEAKER_01: And if you can't block for Devin Dampier while they're trying to throw the ball more, guess what?
- 55:29SPEAKER_01: You can't do anything, and it's gonna be a bad season.
- 55:33SPEAKER_01: Um now, up to this point, that they've been great.
- 55:36SPEAKER_01: I mean, I mean, really, this offensive line's been great.
- 55:38SPEAKER_01: And I and even against Arkansas, um, they held up some nice blocks, you know, they gave nice holes for running backs.
- 55:44SPEAKER_01: Um, really, they the quarterbacks just had plenty of time to throw the ball.
- 55:47SPEAKER_01: And and not only throw the ball, but they opened up and and allowed them to really be effective all the way.
- 55:54SPEAKER_01: So um offensively, we've learned quite a bit.
- 55:57SPEAKER_01: I mean, that this this Arkansas team, as bad as they were, they have big talented guys that are supposed to be good enough to compete at this level, and Utah held their own with the O line, they did what they were supposed to.
- 56:09SPEAKER_01: Um, so I'm I'm really proud of the way this offensive line handled Arkansas.
- 56:13SPEAKER_01: It's really important.
- 56:14SPEAKER_01: Um defensively, we're still all in, man.
- 56:18SPEAKER_01: RSNB, you know, relentless, smart, nasty ball hawks, this defense's been flying around the field.
- 56:23SPEAKER_01: Our defensive backs have been really, really good in coverage.
- 56:26SPEAKER_01: Um, and and and it's and it's shown, dude.
- 56:29SPEAKER_01: On even on plays like being at the game, you don't always see what players are doing down the field.
- 56:35SPEAKER_01: But I'm telling you, you if you just watch some of these other backs, the the coverage is just spot on.
- 56:41SPEAKER_01: The the reason that we had time to get to this quarterback and get to quarterback so much is because he has nowhere to throw the ball.
- 56:48SPEAKER_01: Um our defensive, our defensive backs were just um were just great.
- 56:51SPEAKER_01: I think they have the second highest grade in all of college football um passing grade, which is just fantastic to hear.
- 56:58SPEAKER_01: It's good to see that these guys are out there getting it.
- 57:01SPEAKER_01: Um I I would love to see our defensive line get to the quarterback a little bit more um and and just cause chaos.
- 57:07SPEAKER_01: That's kind of what we're going to need into these games moving forward, especially when we get into conference play.
- 57:11SPEAKER_01: Um, but but you see these guys growing, you know, getting better as a unit and hopefully gaining some confidence before sorry, gaining some confidence before we get into conference play.
- 57:21SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean it's it's gonna be a good week.
- 57:23SPEAKER_02: I I don't see any real road bumps on this one.
- 57:25SPEAKER_02: Uh once that I noticed when I was looking stuff up, AJ.
- 57:28SPEAKER_02: Yeah Utah has put up 30 30 points or more in eight straight games.
- 57:35SPEAKER_02: Yeah, which is wild.
- 57:36SPEAKER_02: That's not nothing, my friend.
- 57:38SPEAKER_01: No, no, that's not.
- 57:39SPEAKER_01: And and I mean, and obviously, if you go look back into eight straight games, right?
- 57:42SPEAKER_01: There there is there's going to be some previous offensive coordinator stuff there.
- 57:46SPEAKER_01: You know, but the last three are gonna come from Morgan Scalley calling the plays, um, and then the last two specifically are going to be Kevin McGiven calling the plays.
- 57:54SPEAKER_01: And and the last two games, this offense has looked like something it has never looked like before, and that is really exciting.
- 58:01SPEAKER_01: Um, they they are more willing to run some trickery plays, they are more willing to put guys in positions that are gonna make the defense ask questions.
- 58:10SPEAKER_01: This offense is really, really fun to watch.
- 58:12SPEAKER_01: If you are not a Utah football fan, watch these games.
- 58:15SPEAKER_01: You will be when you're done.
- 58:17SPEAKER_02: Comment here from McKenley Cutler.
- 58:19SPEAKER_02: Sorry, I can't remember.
- 58:19SPEAKER_02: That was before my time.
- 58:20SPEAKER_02: Thank you for making me feel really, really old.
- 58:23SPEAKER_02: Uh, that's always awesome.
- 58:24SPEAKER_02: Appreciate it.
- 58:25SPEAKER_02: Another comment here from Pacific Northwest.
- 58:27SPEAKER_02: You uh first hard, uh, sorry, first hard is good and it's kind of good.
- 58:33SPEAKER_02: It's really good.
- 58:34SPEAKER_02: Bronco Mendenhall.
- 58:37SPEAKER_02: Aggies nice, nice.
- 58:39SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 58:40SPEAKER_02: You love it.
- 58:41SPEAKER_02: You love it.
- 58:42SPEAKER_02: Uh definitely sounds like a Bronco Mendenhall quote there.
- 58:44SPEAKER_02: Um, they got an SE SEC player rating dump.
- 58:49SPEAKER_01: I think you're absolutely right.
- 58:51SPEAKER_01: I I'm gonna be completely honest.
- 58:53SPEAKER_01: I understand that they did get the SEC player rating bump.
- 58:56SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 58:57SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I anyway.
- 58:59SPEAKER_02: We'll see about that.
- 59:00SPEAKER_02: Um, you got anything else you want to add on this?
- 59:02SPEAKER_02: No, no, I don't think so.
- 59:04SPEAKER_01: I think I have to because I didn't talk enough.
- 59:07SPEAKER_02: We want to hear from you folks to let us know what your thoughts are in the comments down below.
- 59:10SPEAKER_02: Uh when it comes to this week, uh, let us know what your thoughts are.
- 59:13SPEAKER_02: Uh score predictions again in conference.
- 59:16SPEAKER_02: We've got a lot to talk about.
- 59:17SPEAKER_02: Maybe kind of more next week, we can talk about how the conference seems to be running through Utah.
- 59:22SPEAKER_02: I think it's definitely gonna be something we want to talk about because whether it's Utah or BYU, it definitely feels like if you're going to be somebody in this conference, it's got to go through us first.
- 59:32SPEAKER_02: Yep.
- 59:32SPEAKER_02: So I think it's interesting.
- 59:34SPEAKER_02: Might want to have a conversation about that.
- 59:35SPEAKER_02: Let us know what you guys want us if you guys want us to talk about it.
- 59:38SPEAKER_02: Uh, once again, folks, thank you all very much for joining us about uh Utah football DNA.
- 59:42SPEAKER_02: Uh, let's switch on over and let's talk a little bit about baseball, shall we?
- 59:45SPEAKER_01: Let's do it.
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- 1:00:05SPEAKER_01: Do it.
- 1:00:06SPEAKER_01: This is, dude, we've we've got so much more good stuff to talk about baseball.
- 1:00:10SPEAKER_01: Because you know what?
- 1:00:11SPEAKER_01: It's that time of year, man.
- 1:00:13SPEAKER_01: Like we're not just in the middle of the season where teams are just playing games to play games and get them done.
- 1:00:17SPEAKER_01: And you know, some teams are.
- 1:00:19SPEAKER_01: Well, yeah, you're right.
- 1:00:21SPEAKER_01: You're absolutely right.
- 1:00:22SPEAKER_01: But but I think more importantly, we're we're kind of kind of starting to get to crunch time, right?
- 1:00:26SPEAKER_01: Where we've got teams that um, you know, as the time we're recording, we have four teams that have clinch playoff bursts, right?
- 1:00:33SPEAKER_01: And those teams being uh the Tampa Bay Rays, the New York Yankees, the Milwaukee Brewers, and of course the LA Dodgers.
- 1:00:41SPEAKER_01: Um, as of today, um nothing?
- 1:00:46SPEAKER_01: Nothing.
- 1:00:47SPEAKER_01: Okay, that's fine.
- 1:00:48SPEAKER_01: That's fine.
- 1:00:50SPEAKER_01: As of today, the the Brewers have clincer division, but uh they're they're really the only team that's actually clinse their division.
- 1:00:57SPEAKER_01: So um you gotta love this part of the year, man, where uh really every single game kind of means something.
- 1:01:03SPEAKER_01: And you know, and for some of these teams, it kind of seems like the store the scores start to go down, um, and and you see teams get a little bit more scrappy.
- 1:01:11SPEAKER_01: So I don't know.
- 1:01:12SPEAKER_01: What are your what are your thoughts on the current races across the American League and the National League?
- 1:01:16SPEAKER_02: I mean, I think you're spot on when it comes to like defining it as crunch time, right?
- 1:01:19SPEAKER_02: I mean, there's no surprises.
- 1:01:20SPEAKER_02: The Brewers have been one of the best teams in baseball all year.
- 1:01:24SPEAKER_01: Yeah, just good.
- 1:01:25SPEAKER_02: You know, and it just really kind of speaks to the way they've been for like the last several seasons.
- 1:01:29SPEAKER_02: They're always at the top of their division, they're always at the top of baseball.
- 1:01:32SPEAKER_02: Uh, they've just been getting it done, man.
- 1:01:33SPEAKER_02: Obviously, the Dodgers are exactly where you expect them to be uh at this point of the year.
- 1:01:38SPEAKER_02: Um, and it's you know been real fun uh talking about them as well.
- 1:01:42SPEAKER_02: Um special shout out, by the way, to the AL East.
- 1:01:46SPEAKER_02: Um at there's this one point uh during the division race there uh where all three, all teams in the AL East had their teams in post have a playoff spot over that same weekend.
- 1:01:58SPEAKER_02: Every single team last month was pretty crazy.
- 1:02:01SPEAKER_02: Uh but yeah, the Rays, um the Rays, they do this every year.
- 1:02:04SPEAKER_02: They go in there and they and they you know basically show why they're the best team in the American League, year in and year out.
- 1:02:09SPEAKER_02: They just do it differently down there.
- 1:02:10SPEAKER_02: You know, if your team made a trade with the Rays, you lost that trade, especially when it comes to involved with pitchers, because they just see things that other teams just simply don't.
- 1:02:18SPEAKER_02: Um, you know, it shows what you know how they basically just show you how the best teams in baseball should be ran.
- 1:02:24SPEAKER_02: Um, and then so you know, you hold that together um with the Yankees there.
- 1:02:28SPEAKER_02: They're basically trying to get it done there.
- 1:02:31SPEAKER_02: Uh let's face it, the rest of the American League is kind of trash.
- 1:02:34SPEAKER_02: So they were kind of dealing with a lot of injuries.
- 1:02:36SPEAKER_02: Judge, Freed, Cole, Staten, Rodon, and the list goes on and on.
- 1:02:40SPEAKER_02: I believe Jazz Chisholm Jr.
- 1:02:41SPEAKER_02: is in there as well.
- 1:02:42SPEAKER_02: Um, that team still held together enough to keep it locked down to maintain their spot.
- 1:02:48SPEAKER_02: Uh, but there's lots of races that are undecided.
- 1:02:50SPEAKER_02: I mean, just yesterday, uh from yesterday to today, the AL Central was taken over from the White Sox by the Guardians.
- 1:02:56SPEAKER_02: And so now the Guardians, while um they are now the ones that are leading that division, they are the ones with the buy over the White Sox.
- 1:03:05SPEAKER_02: So that just changed from when we talked on our pre-show production meeting.
- 1:03:10SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
- 1:03:10SPEAKER_02: So it all just kind of changed uh kind of there quickly.
- 1:03:14SPEAKER_02: There's still some division races that still need to be decided.
- 1:03:16SPEAKER_02: Um the Dodgers still haven't locked down their division yet.
- 1:03:19SPEAKER_02: Um uh again, a win today or a loss for the Padres today would have done that, but I don't think they lost.
- 1:03:25SPEAKER_02: Um, and there's also uh the ability to clinch the uh bye weeks still that are still up to grounds there for sure.
- 1:03:33SPEAKER_02: Um without getting in the wild card stuff.
- 1:03:35SPEAKER_02: Obviously, there's a lot to we're gonna talk about that a little later.
- 1:03:38SPEAKER_02: Um, but yeah, it's been interesting, man.
- 1:03:39SPEAKER_02: It's been an interesting, um interesting couple of weeks just to see how this all shakes out because like I said, most American League's been garbage.
- 1:03:47SPEAKER_02: So we have a team that simply just doesn't want to win.
- 1:03:51SPEAKER_02: Uh we have a whole division that doesn't seem to want to win baseball in the American League East.
- 1:03:55SPEAKER_01: It's just it's literally a whole division, dude.
- 1:03:57SPEAKER_01: It's the wildest thing.
- 1:03:59SPEAKER_02: Anyone wants to take the division, dude.
- 1:04:00SPEAKER_02: Anyone, just have at it.
- 1:04:02SPEAKER_02: I mean, is the funny thing is you have the Seattle Mariners, the Texas Rangers, and the Houston Trash Dros.
- 1:04:07SPEAKER_02: Yes, I said it that way.
- 1:04:08SPEAKER_02: I'm never gonna not to.
- 1:04:10SPEAKER_02: Those three teams played the Anaheim Angels and the Athletics 36 times, and still none of those other three teams have a winning record.
- 1:04:24SPEAKER_01: Isn't that comical?
- 1:04:26SPEAKER_02: That is two of the bottom three teams in baseball, my friend.
- 1:04:29SPEAKER_02: The only other team that's worse is the Colorado Rockies, and for some reason, nobody in that division wants to have a winning record.
- 1:04:33SPEAKER_02: Blows my mind.
- 1:04:34SPEAKER_02: But yes, right now I think the Astros have it, or it's tied between them and the Rangers.
- 1:04:39SPEAKER_02: I'm not sure.
- 1:04:39SPEAKER_02: But yeah, good stuff, man.
- 1:04:41SPEAKER_02: Interesting.
- 1:04:41SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, it has.
- 1:04:43SPEAKER_01: It's been it's been really good.
- 1:04:44SPEAKER_01: Um, and and really it's it's just an exciting time, right?
- 1:04:47SPEAKER_01: It it's just this is such a fun time of year to watch baseball.
- 1:04:50SPEAKER_01: Like, yeah, the playoffs are great, but this is a time where games start counting a little bit more, you know.
- 1:04:54SPEAKER_01: You just you love getting in there and seeing some of these teams that these games are starting to mean a little bit more.
- 1:05:00SPEAKER_01: You know, you need a win here, you need a win here.
- 1:05:02SPEAKER_01: You know, how does this series play out?
- 1:05:04SPEAKER_01: Do we need to play our ace here?
- 1:05:06SPEAKER_01: Um, so you get a little bit more of the chess match, and it just makes it a lot more fun to watch.
- 1:05:10SPEAKER_01: So um yeah, so we just broke down some of these teams, right?
- 1:05:15SPEAKER_01: That that have either clinched or are leading.
- 1:05:17SPEAKER_01: Um and you know, some of these teams are just our are close, right?
- 1:05:21SPEAKER_01: Should clinch soon.
- 1:05:22SPEAKER_01: Um but something that really stood out to me as I'm watching these teams is these aren't the teams that we hear about all season or sorry, all off season.
- 1:05:36SPEAKER_01: And you know, teams that we're hearing big spending or signing huge contracts, and really like aside from the Dodgers, three of these four teams um that are currently on place to have a first round buy in the playoffs are not the biggest spenders in major league baseball.
- 1:05:53SPEAKER_01: No, right?
- 1:05:54SPEAKER_01: And like the Tampa Bay Rays, they they got a top three record in baseball, but but their spending going into the Into the season was 28th of 30 teams.
- 1:06:03SPEAKER_01: And they only had$90 million on payroll to start 2026.
- 1:06:06SPEAKER_02: That's gross, dude.
- 1:06:07SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 1:06:08SPEAKER_01: The Cleveland Guardians, I mean, they looked like they, you know, could be the other team out of the American League to get the first round by.
- 1:06:14SPEAKER_01: Their payroll was 29th out of 30 teams with 86 million in payroll to start 2026.
- 1:06:20SPEAKER_01: And then last but not least, the Milwaukee Brewers have the best record in baseball this year.
- 1:06:24SPEAKER_01: Their payroll was 19th in the league with 142 million in payroll to start 2026.
- 1:06:30SPEAKER_01: Um obviously big spenders right there.
- 1:06:33SPEAKER_01: But now obviously the Dodgers are in there too, and they do have one of the highest payrolls in the league.
- 1:06:37SPEAKER_01: But what are your thoughts on the other three teams that are that are in there, Darren?
- 1:06:40SPEAKER_01: And and how does this kind of speak to coaching and performance and getting the most out of your team, not just spending money?
- 1:06:49SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think I think you hit it on the head there, man, because there's three out of the four teams that have uh clinched uh a buy in the first round, right?
- 1:06:57SPEAKER_02: That's what we're kind of talking about here.
- 1:06:58SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely.
- 1:06:59SPEAKER_02: Um don't have a top 10 payroll.
- 1:07:03SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 1:07:04SPEAKER_02: The only team that does is the Dodgers, right?
- 1:07:05SPEAKER_02: They have the biggest payroll in baseball, but the rest three, the Rays, the Brewers, the Guardians, or the White Sox, depending on which day you're looking at it, neither one of those teams have a top 10 payroll in baseball.
- 1:07:17SPEAKER_02: And so it kind of just kind of goes off to if you, you know, not necessarily buying your team is gonna get you a buy, right?
- 1:07:22SPEAKER_02: It's just kind of how we title this one.
- 1:07:23SPEAKER_02: It almost speaks to like we've talked about several times on this channel that payroll isn't everything.
- 1:07:28SPEAKER_02: Payroll may get you into the postseason, and absolutely it does help.
- 1:07:32SPEAKER_02: I mean, I'm not gonna argue that, like, with the exception of the Mets, man, it sucks to be a Mets fan, but all the top 10 payroll teams have a spot in the postseason as it sits right now today, uh, with the exception of the Blue Jays, who actually right now are only a game and a half back of a wild card spot in the American.
- 1:07:47SPEAKER_01: So they're still right in the running, they're still not like they've been eliminated from playoff contention.
- 1:07:51SPEAKER_01: That team's still there.
- 1:07:52SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so while while we're looking at that, absolutely there is definitely the possibility for that to happen for sure.
- 1:07:57SPEAKER_02: But that's kind of my point.
- 1:07:59SPEAKER_02: While it can get you there, it doesn't necessarily mean you're gonna get a lot of wins.
- 1:08:02SPEAKER_02: And we got the Mets, like I said, who didn't even make the playoffs.
- 1:08:05SPEAKER_02: And you know, we've got the uh Padres who are gonna be playing in a wildcard game.
- 1:08:09SPEAKER_02: There's also a top four.
- 1:08:11SPEAKER_02: Two of the, I think two of the see, one, two, three.
- 1:08:17SPEAKER_02: So with the exception of the Dodgers, all the other top five teams have to play in the wild card wildcard round.
- 1:08:23SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 1:08:23SPEAKER_02: Of the top five in the playoffs.
- 1:08:25SPEAKER_02: So I think it just goes mostly into again, it's not necessarily money.
- 1:08:29SPEAKER_02: Again, like you mentioned, the Rays.
- 1:08:31SPEAKER_02: I this team is one of the best teams in baseball year in and year out, simply because they know how to develop talent, they know when to trade away, and they know which prospects they're gonna go after when they got somebody they really want.
- 1:08:41SPEAKER_02: That they're just gonna keep turning and flipping, developing talent, and flip them before they have to pay a massive contract to them, bring in some rehabbing arms, you know, and then just try and keep doing that over and over again.
- 1:08:51SPEAKER_01: And it's just the endless cycle of death, isn't it?
- 1:08:54SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and believe it or not.
- 1:08:55SPEAKER_01: Because they never get anywhere in the playoffs.
- 1:08:56SPEAKER_02: Well, no, uh 2020 is when they made it to the World Series, right?
- 1:08:59SPEAKER_02: But they they lost that one.
- 1:09:01SPEAKER_02: But ever since then, like their methodology for being great in the regular season doesn't translate to the postseason well.
- 1:09:06SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 1:09:06SPEAKER_02: So it's kind of tough there.
- 1:09:07SPEAKER_02: Like you can't rely on that pitcher to go eight innings when the metrics say you need to pull them before the third time through the rotation, and they'll die on that hill, regardless of how good the guy's pitching, right?
- 1:09:17SPEAKER_02: Shout out to Blake Snell.
- 1:09:19SPEAKER_02: Um, when it comes to that, the other team that does that really well is also the Brewers, right?
- 1:09:23SPEAKER_02: They do the exact same thing.
- 1:09:24SPEAKER_02: You and I have sit here on this show for three years in a row talking about how the Brewers are going to trade away their best pitcher for prospects because they don't want to pay him when he comes up for a contract.
- 1:09:32SPEAKER_01: And that's how it happens every year.
- 1:09:33SPEAKER_01: It happens every single year.
- 1:09:34SPEAKER_01: And then we watch it and then it happens, and we're just like, well, we we did kind of call this.
- 1:09:38SPEAKER_02: Yes, and they're still at the top of the division every single year, which is just again goes to show you that the front office, coaching, and player development, making sure you have the right scouts in place, making sure you have the right trainers in place, making sure you have a savvy front office means more than a paycheck ever will.
- 1:09:53SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 1:09:53SPEAKER_01: Do you think they trade the Ms.
- 1:09:56SPEAKER_02: Yes?
- 1:09:57SPEAKER_02: They'll do it again, right?
- 1:09:58SPEAKER_02: Absolutely they will.
- 1:09:59SPEAKER_02: Not this year, but yeah.
- 1:10:00SPEAKER_01: And right, he's not up for a contract this year.
- 1:10:02SPEAKER_01: I think he's still got two more on his contract.
- 1:10:04SPEAKER_02: Uh arbitration eligible, I think, for three more seasons.
- 1:10:07SPEAKER_01: Okay, yeah.
- 1:10:08SPEAKER_02: So I think.
- 1:10:09SPEAKER_02: Well, it depends because it all changes after the end of this year, right?
- 1:10:12SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, because we got the CBA.
- 1:10:13SPEAKER_02: We got a new C BA.
- 1:10:14SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
- 1:10:15SPEAKER_02: So uh, but yeah, I definitely don't I definitely do not think he's gonna make it out of his last year in his contract, you know.
- 1:10:20SPEAKER_02: Especially him more than anybody else.
- 1:10:22SPEAKER_01: Which is why, but honestly, though, I mean and I and I I love the biz.
- 1:10:26SPEAKER_01: I think he's a great pitcher, but that is a scary arm to have.
- 1:10:29SPEAKER_01: He's not gonna last.
- 1:10:30SPEAKER_01: You just you can't throw like that for four, five, ten, fifteen seasons.
- 1:10:36SPEAKER_01: It's just not gonna work.
- 1:10:37SPEAKER_02: Or even five, dude, you'll have like five good years, and you gotta show you.
- 1:10:41SPEAKER_01: Especially when you rile real you rely so much on velocity.
- 1:10:44SPEAKER_01: I mean, his control is mid-tier, it hasn't been fantastic.
- 1:10:48SPEAKER_01: He throws really hard, he's got a gray change up, yeah.
- 1:10:53SPEAKER_01: And then and then you've got this, you know, mimicked Chris Sale slider that you try to use and you know get get guys looking at it, but still found a way to drop his name in an episode.
- 1:11:02SPEAKER_01: Jesus.
- 1:11:02SPEAKER_01: Hey, that's what I'm here for.
- 1:11:03SPEAKER_01: Chris Dale, go braves.
- 1:11:05SPEAKER_01: Um, anyways, um gotta bring that up, don't you?
- 1:11:09SPEAKER_01: But anyways, you're the one who brought him up, dude.
- 1:11:11SPEAKER_01: I didn't see it.
- 1:11:12SPEAKER_01: I didn't I didn't bring him up.
- 1:11:13SPEAKER_01: Okay, you brought up the midst too.
- 1:11:16SPEAKER_01: I brought up the biz, too.
- 1:11:17SPEAKER_01: You brought the myth just so you could drop Chris Dale.
- 1:11:19SPEAKER_01: You know that, right?
- 1:11:20SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
- 1:11:20SPEAKER_01: That's exactly what happened.
- 1:11:21SPEAKER_01: Okay, but anyways, I I just I would be surprised if he makes it, you know, as long and as as is as effective as he has been the last week.
- 1:11:30SPEAKER_02: You and I have talked about this, and I think that these types of players, these types of pitchers are not long in the tooth, man.
- 1:11:35SPEAKER_02: It's great to be able to throw 104, but you are not lasting long in this league.
- 1:11:38SPEAKER_02: Whatever remember, who was this guy last year?
- 1:11:40SPEAKER_02: It wasn't Mizowski, who was the guy that was the Miz last year?
- 1:11:44SPEAKER_02: Before Miz was the Miz.
- 1:11:46SPEAKER_01: Before Miz was the Miz.
- 1:11:47SPEAKER_01: I I don't know.
- 1:11:49SPEAKER_02: Uh his girlfriend's Olivia Dunn.
- 1:11:51SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, Paul Skeens.
- 1:11:53SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 1:11:53SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
- 1:11:53SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he was he was the guy we were.
- 1:11:55SPEAKER_01: Not having a good year this year.
- 1:11:56SPEAKER_01: Not having a good year.
- 1:11:57SPEAKER_01: And he, I mean, he looks nothing like Chris Hale.
- 1:11:59SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
- 1:12:01SPEAKER_01: Sorry, I had to throw it in again.
- 1:12:02SPEAKER_01: Whatever.
- 1:12:03SPEAKER_02: So good.
- 1:12:04SPEAKER_02: So good.
- 1:12:05SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but we got a little off track there.
- 1:12:06SPEAKER_02: But yeah, I think it's really kind of awesome there that again, it just speaks to the narrative we talk about on this channel.
- 1:12:11SPEAKER_02: Like everybody can bark at the teams that are spending money.
- 1:12:14SPEAKER_02: I would argue that those teams are the only ones actually trying, but um, you know, it is what it is.
- 1:12:18SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know what they say you ain't cheating, you ain't trying.
- 1:12:20SPEAKER_01: No, not that one.
- 1:12:21SPEAKER_01: Oh, sorry.
- 1:12:22SPEAKER_01: That's that's awesome.
- 1:12:23SPEAKER_02: I honestly think this is the only sport where that is not the state.
- 1:12:26SPEAKER_02: That's not the case.
- 1:12:26SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay.
- 1:12:27SPEAKER_02: If you are cheating, you are greatly disrespecting this league.
- 1:12:33SPEAKER_02: If you're not spending money, you're not trying to win.
- 1:12:35SPEAKER_01: Like on like on Major League DNA, you will get called the trash dros for the entire existence of the show.
- 1:12:41SPEAKER_02: Or yeah, get accused of eating eating giving bears, whatever, right?
- 1:12:44SPEAKER_02: You know, there's just cheaters wear orange.
- 1:12:46SPEAKER_02: It's in there.
- 1:12:46SPEAKER_02: It's in there.
- 1:12:47SPEAKER_02: Uh, we got a couple of comments from Greg Hawkins, Channel Legend, Greg Hawkins, the NLCS may be better than the World Series this year.
- 1:12:53SPEAKER_01: Ooh.
- 1:12:54SPEAKER_02: Um, yeah, the National League Championship Series.
- 1:12:56SPEAKER_01: Ooh, that's fair.
- 1:12:57SPEAKER_02: Maybe, maybe.
- 1:12:59SPEAKER_02: Uh, we've got to break down the bracket at some point this year because there's a team out there that scares the ever-living daylights out of me.
- 1:13:04SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I know.
- 1:13:05SPEAKER_02: On the on the American League side.
- 1:13:07SPEAKER_02: Uh the Brewers, uh, the Brewers are bad pitching merchants.
- 1:13:10SPEAKER_02: Uh, that's that.
- 1:13:12SPEAKER_02: That's why they fall in the playoffs.
- 1:13:15SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
- 1:13:16SPEAKER_02: I mean, I don't know.
- 1:13:19SPEAKER_01: Their transaction, their pitching transactions just don't make sense, right?
- 1:13:22SPEAKER_02: Well, if you got you got them you when you face Mill, when you're facing the Brewers, right?
- 1:13:27SPEAKER_02: Who are you gonna face?
- 1:13:29SPEAKER_02: You're gonna fa in a f in a in a three-game series, he's only gonna play once, right?
- 1:13:33SPEAKER_02: He's not gonna be in a three-game, he's gonna be a five game.
- 1:13:35SPEAKER_02: So what are they gonna do?
- 1:13:36SPEAKER_02: Are they gonna try and pitch him twice in a five-game series?
- 1:13:38SPEAKER_02: Game one starter and try and start him if I highly doubt it.
- 1:13:41SPEAKER_01: I mean, that they don't play every other day, they play every day in a five-game series, still, right?
- 1:13:44SPEAKER_02: I think it's like you get a day off between, but yeah.
- 1:13:47SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay.
- 1:13:48SPEAKER_01: So, but I think it's two off, two again, and then off and then the fifth.
- 1:13:52SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, day for travel, yeah.
- 1:13:53SPEAKER_02: Okay, that yeah, that makes sense.
- 1:13:55SPEAKER_02: So I don't know.
- 1:13:55SPEAKER_02: It's it's like it's him and then there's the rest of them, right?
- 1:13:58SPEAKER_01: And I mean, that's right on.
- 1:13:59SPEAKER_01: If you start in the first game, yeah, you got a chance at making them, you know, getting him to that to that sixth day and maybe using him for the fifth game.
- 1:14:06SPEAKER_01: Um if you're if your pitching staff can get you to the fifth game.
- 1:14:10SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
- 1:14:11SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
- 1:14:11SPEAKER_02: This is a really good point here, because uh they're they're what we mean by that, they're bad pitching merchants.
- 1:14:16SPEAKER_02: Like what they're doing is they're feasting on bad pitching.
- 1:14:18SPEAKER_02: Majority of the time you're not facing you're you're not facing ace level pitchers, you're usually facing you know, the rest of their pitching staff they put together.
- 1:14:26SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 1:14:26SPEAKER_02: So basically what they're able to do is capitalize those wins off of that, and then they're losing to really good pitchers.
- 1:14:31SPEAKER_02: But um, yeah, I mean the Dodgers have the great opportunity of making teams with a nine ERA look like freaking Cy Young.
- 1:14:37SPEAKER_02: So um, I mean the Brewers are disproportionately better against bad pitching than average, but they are the worst against good pitchers than average.
- 1:14:46SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so it's it's it's a fair point there for sure.
- 1:14:48SPEAKER_02: So we'll see how that shakes out.
- 1:14:50SPEAKER_02: Did not shake out well for him in the playoffs last year.
- 1:14:52SPEAKER_02: Uh, I think they get swept out of the championship series in the NLCS.
- 1:14:56SPEAKER_02: Um what's your call there, uh, Greg?
- 1:14:59SPEAKER_02: What are you seeing in in the NLCS?
- 1:15:01SPEAKER_02: Are you thinking because that means it's gonna be who do you think is gonna come out of that?
- 1:15:07SPEAKER_02: Because one thing I think is really gonna be interesting is if it sits the way it sits.
- 1:15:11SPEAKER_02: I think a wild card game in the uh wild card series in the American League is gonna be the best series in the American League uh coming out of that.
- 1:15:17SPEAKER_02: And it's gonna be the Red Sox versus Yankees in the wild card.
- 1:15:19SPEAKER_01: Oh, dude, that is such a good series, too.
- 1:15:21SPEAKER_01: Shame there's gonna be the so much bad blood in that series.
- 1:15:24SPEAKER_02: Yeah, shame it's gonna be so early, but yeah, yeah, I want to see it.
- 1:15:27SPEAKER_02: I think it'd be good.
- 1:15:28SPEAKER_02: It'd also be really cool to watch the White Sox take the Houston Trashros out of it.
- 1:15:32SPEAKER_02: I think that'd be so cool.
- 1:15:33SPEAKER_02: A game, a team that in back-to-back years had a hundred lost seasons that happen to make the playoffs that just you know and then just then just start cruising.
- 1:15:41SPEAKER_02: Well, yeah, again, the Astros are in the E in the West where nobody wants to.
- 1:15:45SPEAKER_02: Nice, Craig.
- 1:15:46SPEAKER_01: I love I love that idea.
- 1:15:48SPEAKER_01: Love it, Greg.
- 1:15:50SPEAKER_02: Okay, that's great.
- 1:15:51SPEAKER_02: Cubs and Breakers.
- 1:15:52SPEAKER_01: Could you imagine dude?
- 1:15:53SPEAKER_01: If it's just for the record, if this happens, you and I will get together when you are watching at least one of these games.
- 1:15:59SPEAKER_01: Darren, you can come, dude.
- 1:16:01SPEAKER_01: You can come.
- 1:16:01SPEAKER_01: I didn't, I mean, your team's out at that point.
- 1:16:04SPEAKER_01: So I think you're you're invited to come hang out.
- 1:16:07SPEAKER_02: Okay, let's see how it is.
- 1:16:08SPEAKER_02: Yeah, just see how it is.
- 1:16:09SPEAKER_01: Greg, let me know if you're down in the comments.
- 1:16:11SPEAKER_02: Uh, but yeah, so I just think it's pretty interesting.
- 1:16:13SPEAKER_02: But let's go ahead and get on to our last subject there, and that's gonna be the wild card race, man.
- 1:16:17SPEAKER_02: So much changes are happening there.
- 1:16:20SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, I mean, and that's the thing, is in the National League, that like really there there's like there's a race for the race, right?
- 1:16:28SPEAKER_01: Because really, I mean, over you know, these last couple weeks have just been super entertaining.
- 1:16:32SPEAKER_01: The Padres have just absolutely been on a tear.
- 1:16:35SPEAKER_01: Um, and you know, and I'm I'm not a huge fan of this race of the race because my Braves are kind of stuck right in the middle of it, but but really the Cubs, Phillies, Padres, Diamondbacks, though the all three or all four of those teams, they're just right there um for those last three wildcard spot.
- 1:16:50SPEAKER_01: And I mean it's close.
- 1:16:51SPEAKER_01: I think there's four games or so between you know all these teams.
- 1:16:55SPEAKER_01: Um, obviously the Cubs won tonight, so that makes it even closer.
- 1:16:59SPEAKER_01: They beat the Braves.
- 1:17:00SPEAKER_01: I don't love that, Greg, but we're still cool.
- 1:17:03SPEAKER_01: Um Yeah, so I mean, like really, who do you see coming out of the National League to take the these last couple wildcard spots?
- 1:17:11SPEAKER_02: I think it's pretty, I think it's pretty much the lock.
- 1:17:13SPEAKER_02: I don't think the Padres won eight straight uh coming into this uh community loss against the Rockies.
- 1:17:19SPEAKER_02: So I think in my opinion that they're gonna be uh they're gonna be the ones, right?
- 1:17:23SPEAKER_02: That they're gonna be they're gonna be the ones to get in the third spot.
- 1:17:25SPEAKER_02: Everybody, Arizona, Miami.
- 1:17:27SPEAKER_01: I just don't know if Arizona can win enough games to catch the Padres at this point.
- 1:17:31SPEAKER_02: And I don't know who they play throughout the rest of the season.
- 1:17:34SPEAKER_01: Well, I can I can look that up real quick.
- 1:17:35SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they're playing against Miami.
- 1:17:37SPEAKER_02: They're gonna win it, they're gonna beat the Marlins, right?
- 1:17:39SPEAKER_02: So the next closest team behind them is gonna be the Marlins, and they're eight games away.
- 1:17:44SPEAKER_02: So it's basically just gonna be between the Padres, the Phillies, and Arizona, who gets that last wildcard spot, right?
- 1:17:52SPEAKER_02: It's gonna be those three teams.
- 1:17:53SPEAKER_02: I think the Cubs, even though they're having a rough go of it the last couple of games, they're four and six out of the last ten.
- 1:17:58SPEAKER_02: Uh they still have a better run differential than pretty much any other team uh in the National League that's playing on the wild cards.
- 1:18:04SPEAKER_02: So I think they're gonna be safe.
- 1:18:06SPEAKER_01: I don't know, man.
- 1:18:06SPEAKER_01: Diamondbacks got the Yankees.
- 1:18:08SPEAKER_01: I mean, they're they're they're going into a series with the Yankees, so they could potentially win the or lose those games.
- 1:18:13SPEAKER_01: Yep.
- 1:18:14SPEAKER_01: But then they got three games versus the Rockies.
- 1:18:17SPEAKER_02: Those are wins.
- 1:18:18SPEAKER_01: Those are wins, and then they got three more against the Padres to finish their season.
- 1:18:21SPEAKER_02: Oh, so it could come down to that final series.
- 1:18:23SPEAKER_01: It could come down to that final series for the Diamondbacks.
- 1:18:26SPEAKER_01: I mean, realistically, winning the Rockies games, obviously they should sweep that series.
- 1:18:32SPEAKER_01: If you're if you're pushing, you gotta win those games.
- 1:18:35SPEAKER_01: But those Padres games are gonna be huge.
- 1:18:37SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think if they hold four game swings every single one of them, yeah, and they're only what?
- 1:18:42SPEAKER_02: Three games out.
- 1:18:43SPEAKER_02: Oh, three games.
- 1:18:44SPEAKER_02: Do those decide who maybe yeah, it depends on what the head-to-head is.
- 1:18:47SPEAKER_01: And obviously it depends on what the Padres do, right?
- 1:18:50SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but I just think that's gonna be pretty interesting, man.
- 1:18:52SPEAKER_02: It's gonna be really cool to see that.
- 1:18:53SPEAKER_02: And we were talking, we were gonna talk about something completely different on this last segment.
- 1:18:57SPEAKER_02: And then I'm like, dude, you're right.
- 1:18:58SPEAKER_02: We need to talk about the wild card because the Padres just came out of nowhere and won like eight straight and put themselves right back in the race.
- 1:19:04SPEAKER_01: But the Padres got a tough series coming up, too, dude.
- 1:19:06SPEAKER_01: They got three.
- 1:19:07SPEAKER_01: I mean, so they're in a they're in a series going into a series with the Mar with the Marlins.
- 1:19:11SPEAKER_01: They got one more against the Rockies, right?
- 1:19:13SPEAKER_01: And then they got three at the Dodgers, right?
- 1:19:15SPEAKER_01: So those games are gonna impact how they end up for the Dodgers.
- 1:19:20SPEAKER_01: Right, and and being that the Dodgers have locked, you're not gonna see all of their aces, right?
- 1:19:24SPEAKER_02: They could be I don't know, it depends on how well the Braves do, like, because we want to maintain that second spot.
- 1:19:30SPEAKER_01: Absolutely, yeah.
- 1:19:31SPEAKER_01: But you know, then so I don't know, man.
- 1:19:33SPEAKER_01: Dude, it's this is so much fun.
- 1:19:35SPEAKER_01: Like, there is there is so much good baseball that's about to happen, and you know, really is you know, being a national league team, you're gonna have eyes on all of these games, like ah, and even outside that way down to it.
- 1:19:46SPEAKER_02: You can say whatever you want about the commissioner baseball, but expanding the playoffs in the way they did it, how the wall occurred, how they're doing it, having these buys in the first round, every game seems to matter down the stretch.
- 1:19:56SPEAKER_02: Like you and I are going head to head, our teams are going head to head to find that to get that last uh spot for this for the bye.
- 1:20:02SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you know, and then you've got all these teams that are competing for positions.
- 1:20:06SPEAKER_01: And that doesn't even bring in like, do you really want do you really want the buy?
- 1:20:10SPEAKER_01: Like, I my team does.
- 1:20:11SPEAKER_01: I I know your team does, right?
- 1:20:13SPEAKER_01: But like my team does.
- 1:20:14SPEAKER_01: Tommy needs it, baby.
- 1:20:15SPEAKER_01: But but if my team gets into a rhythm and start, you know, and we get into a winning streak in these last you know, 12 games, I don't know if I want to see them take, you know, three games off.
- 1:20:25SPEAKER_02: I don't want to see you take three games, uh, you know, three days off, four days off, whatever the buy is, right?
- 1:20:30SPEAKER_02: Maybe five, and then have you have to go in and face a hot Padres team.
- 1:20:34SPEAKER_02: I mean, it's terrifying.
- 1:20:36SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
- 1:20:36SPEAKER_02: You know, I mean, actually, no, you'd be facing a para player you'd be facing them uh in the bracket.
- 1:20:42SPEAKER_02: But to me, I think it's gonna be pretty interesting to see what happens there.
- 1:20:46SPEAKER_02: If we go over to the uh American League side, again, the Yankees have their spot smashed, right?
- 1:20:51SPEAKER_02: They're guaranteed uh to have theirs.
- 1:20:53SPEAKER_02: They're actually still uh in competit in competing for the uh, I believe, for their division.
- 1:20:59SPEAKER_02: I believe that they haven't clinched their division.
- 1:21:02SPEAKER_01: No, they have not.
- 1:21:02SPEAKER_02: Yeah, the race have not clinched their division yet, so that one's still up for play.
- 1:21:06SPEAKER_02: So either way, the Yankees are either A gonna win the division or B have the top wildcard spot.
- 1:21:10SPEAKER_02: The next closest team to them is the Red Sox.
- 1:21:13SPEAKER_02: I think they're also a lock to get a team because they're plus five over the next wildcard team, which is gonna be the White Sox.
- 1:21:18SPEAKER_02: Uh the White Sox currently are sitting right now as the last wildcard team, but right behind them are again the Texas Rangers, the Blue Jays, and let's not count out the Blackface Orioles.
- 1:21:29SPEAKER_01: Did you just call them Blackface?
- 1:21:32SPEAKER_01: That doesn't seem like you should be able to say that.
- 1:21:34SPEAKER_02: Look at their logo and tell me that's not blackface.
- 1:21:37SPEAKER_01: I guess that's true.
- 1:21:39SPEAKER_02: The Baltimore Orioles.
- 1:21:41SPEAKER_02: Um, sorry.
- 1:21:42SPEAKER_02: But yeah, so we have we have the Baltimore Orioles, the Blue Jays, and the Texas Rangers all within a game and a half of that last wild card spot.
- 1:21:51SPEAKER_02: Um, so I mean the Baltimore is two and a half games, but they're you know playing some good teams right now, and you know, they just came off of a great win in New York.
- 1:21:58SPEAKER_02: I think we're gonna see a lot of good things from them.
- 1:22:00SPEAKER_02: They've won three straight, kind of putting themselves right back in the mix of it.
- 1:22:03SPEAKER_02: So again, while the White Sox, I thought they were locked for that first spot, the the Guardians came in and took it from them.
- 1:22:10SPEAKER_02: It could easily switch again because there's like I said, there's a game difference between them right now.
- 1:22:14SPEAKER_02: So while we're still waiting for a couple divisions to change up there, we're also still waiting for a couple of uh wildcard seasons to shake out.
- 1:22:20SPEAKER_01: It's really funny to see the win total difference from the National League to the American League.
- 1:22:23SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh, it's gross.
- 1:22:25SPEAKER_01: These team, these teams are still chasing 80 wins.
- 1:22:27SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 1:22:28SPEAKER_01: You know, like, oh, if we can if we can finish the season strong, we can hit 80.
- 1:22:33SPEAKER_01: And and all of the National League teams are like, okay, we're we're we're right at 80.
- 1:22:37SPEAKER_01: You know, we're pushing to hit 80, 85 wins.
- 1:22:40SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so the Houston Astros um are leading the West in the American League with an exact 500 record.
- 1:22:47SPEAKER_01: Ah, that's horrible.
- 1:22:50SPEAKER_01: Makes you a little bit sick, doesn't it?
- 1:22:52SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that tells you, and then like there are like, you know, three teams that are not uh at 500.
- 1:22:59SPEAKER_02: They're technically in the running for a wild card still.
- 1:23:01SPEAKER_02: It's just the American League is just kind of garbage.
- 1:23:03SPEAKER_02: There are a few good teams, the Rays, obviously, and the Yankees, and then the Red Sox are doing well, but like, yeah, a lot of teams don't even have close to 80 wins, you know, which should be what you should need to be a playoff team if you're an old Dodger.
- 1:23:14SPEAKER_02: I'm sorry, an old baseball hat, like we are, for sure.
- 1:23:18SPEAKER_02: Um, not so much you, you're more of a new baseball fan than you are.
- 1:23:20SPEAKER_01: Newer baseball fan, for sure.
- 1:23:22SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 1:23:22SPEAKER_02: Well, I can appreciate some of the changes that they made recently, and I like a lot of them.
- 1:23:26SPEAKER_02: Like Rob Manfred's done a lot of good things, like the pitch clock's been huge, the expansion of the playoffs makes these games more entertaining.
- 1:23:31SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
- 1:23:32SPEAKER_02: You know, not knowing, okay, well, you know, in the old days, like you'd have the division races and you have the wildcard teams, and then pretty much okay, that's it.
- 1:23:39SPEAKER_02: So like the last 20 games of the year, no one's doing anything.
- 1:23:43SPEAKER_01: So so pard my ignorance, but the the wild card used to be there used to be four teams that had buys, and there was just one wildcard team, right?
- 1:23:50SPEAKER_02: There wasn't buys.
- 1:23:52SPEAKER_01: There wasn't buys.
- 1:23:53SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 1:23:53SPEAKER_02: So there was no wildcard round either.
- 1:23:55SPEAKER_02: So it's not that big a deal.
- 1:23:56SPEAKER_02: This all didn't change that recently.
- 1:23:58SPEAKER_02: I think it was like 2016, 2017 when they changed the format.
- 1:24:01SPEAKER_02: Teffy Price, uh fan of the channel.
- 1:24:03SPEAKER_02: Let me know if I'm wrong on that one.
- 1:24:05SPEAKER_02: But basically what they did is they just they create when they expanded the playoffs, they created the wild card round.
- 1:24:10SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 1:24:10SPEAKER_02: So now the second and so now there's two additional wildcards.
- 1:24:14SPEAKER_02: It used to just be the division winners and then the next best team in the league.
- 1:24:18SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 1:24:18SPEAKER_02: We'll get to play, you know, the best team in the league, and then, you know, so you only had like the LCS, the championship series, then the World Series.
- 1:24:25SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 1:24:26SPEAKER_02: Okay, I gotcha.
- 1:24:27SPEAKER_02: Yeah, baseball used to not be, you know.
- 1:24:29SPEAKER_02: It's one thing you ever want to talk to a Yankees fan and they talk about how their championships and how they won so many.
- 1:24:34SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they only had to win like sometimes only one game to win a World Series because the team from the American League and National League, no, one game, and they would just play each other one game, and then that's it.
- 1:24:44SPEAKER_02: That's the world series.
- 1:24:45SPEAKER_01: That was it.
- 1:24:45SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and then they have to play like one series sometimes.
- 1:24:48SPEAKER_02: So yeah, it's a fun story though.
- 1:24:49SPEAKER_01: Speaking of the Yankees, did you see Aaron Judge exit of the game?
- 1:24:52SPEAKER_02: No, what dude?
- 1:24:53SPEAKER_02: He's on my team, man.
- 1:24:54SPEAKER_02: What's going on with Judge?
- 1:24:55SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Aaron Judge exited the game after so he just played six straight games, um, and then they had to sit him down.
- 1:25:00SPEAKER_01: He had some lower leg tightness.
- 1:25:02SPEAKER_01: So I'm I'm kind of curious because I mean, like you said, the Yankees are they're in there, they've got their playoff spot locked, right?
- 1:25:07SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they're pretty much locked.
- 1:25:08SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they're locked, but they could still win their division, though.
- 1:25:11SPEAKER_01: But how deep did the Yankees make it if this injury keeps him out for a prolonged period?
- 1:25:16SPEAKER_01: Not long.
- 1:25:17SPEAKER_01: Not long.
- 1:25:18SPEAKER_01: Not long.
- 1:25:18SPEAKER_01: And that's a big time problem, man.
- 1:25:21SPEAKER_02: Maybe, maybe not.
- 1:25:22SPEAKER_02: Like it depends.
- 1:25:23SPEAKER_02: Like, honestly, dude, uh I'll blow my wad a little early here.
- 1:25:26SPEAKER_02: Pause.
- 1:25:27SPEAKER_02: But what I'm talking about that when it comes to this is that I think the team the scariest in the American League is gonna be the Yankees.
- 1:25:32SPEAKER_02: That would be a good one.
- 1:25:33SPEAKER_01: Even without Aaron Judge, it doesn't matter, dude.
- 1:25:35SPEAKER_01: That rotation is disgusting.
- 1:25:36SPEAKER_01: The their pitching rotation.
- 1:25:38SPEAKER_02: Cam Schlitzer.
- 1:25:39SPEAKER_02: Um you also have uh uh gosh, what's his name?
- 1:25:43SPEAKER_02: Max Fried's back from in street.
- 1:25:45SPEAKER_02: Max Fried's back, yep.
- 1:25:46SPEAKER_02: Really good.
- 1:25:47SPEAKER_02: You you know, Cam Slater's gonna win the Cy Young.
- 1:25:49SPEAKER_02: You also have um Colton.
- 1:25:52SPEAKER_02: I mean, sorry, Colton, what's his name?
- 1:25:54SPEAKER_02: Plays pitches for the Yankees, was a guy who was on the mound in game five.
- 1:25:57SPEAKER_02: Deathstare won a Cy Young.
- 1:25:59SPEAKER_02: Gosh is gonna kill me.
- 1:26:01SPEAKER_02: Oh anyway, they got him.
- 1:26:04SPEAKER_02: Garrett Cole, thank you.
- 1:26:05SPEAKER_02: Garrett Cole, you know, he was their frontline ace, he was absolutely you know a stud for them.
- 1:26:11SPEAKER_02: You know, and then you also don't forget Carlos Rodan, he's also really good.
- 1:26:15SPEAKER_02: Like those are just their starters, dude.
- 1:26:17SPEAKER_02: And then just like they have a really decent bullpen too.
- 1:26:20SPEAKER_02: It's really, really tough.
- 1:26:21SPEAKER_02: This team's just, you know, it's really gonna be a tough team.
- 1:26:25SPEAKER_02: Yes, Cole, that's what it was to everybody.
- 1:26:27SPEAKER_02: Thank thank you very much for that.
- 1:26:29SPEAKER_02: Um, but yeah, dude, it's I don't know.
- 1:26:30SPEAKER_02: I think it's gonna be it's gonna be tricky, but yeah, I mean American Lean they might make it all the way because a lot of the other teams are just kind of garbage and they don't put up a lot of offense, so you just have to basically try to outscore them.
- 1:26:40SPEAKER_01: Yeah, if you can go out there and just outscore them, you're you're in you're in perfectly good shape.
- 1:26:44SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's really interesting.
- 1:26:45SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
- 1:26:45SPEAKER_02: What do you think?
- 1:26:46SPEAKER_01: I I think I think the Yankees if you get into one of those situations where you're just trying to outscore them, it sure does help to have a guy like Aaron Judge out there.
- 1:26:55SPEAKER_02: Yes.
- 1:26:56SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
- 1:26:56SPEAKER_01: Like that's yeah, you've got great pitching, but if you've got to go out there and just put some runs on, you know, do they have enough offense that they can kind of keep generating runs and and making sure this team goes further?
- 1:27:07SPEAKER_02: So um, yeah, my one that I want to talk about is Ellie De La Cruz.
- 1:27:11SPEAKER_01: Oh, nice.
- 1:27:12SPEAKER_02: This guy.
- 1:27:13SPEAKER_02: Have you okay?
- 1:27:14SPEAKER_02: We watched we talked about it last week.
- 1:27:16SPEAKER_02: We talked about that throw from center field against the Dodgers.
- 1:27:18SPEAKER_02: Stupid.
- 1:27:18SPEAKER_02: What you don't know is he hit a home run in every single game that series.
- 1:27:22SPEAKER_02: Did he really?
- 1:27:22SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and now the Dodgers are playing the Cincinnati Reds in Cincinnati.
- 1:27:26SPEAKER_02: And I kid you not, this guy has hit a home run in five of the six games he's played against the Dodgers.
- 1:27:33SPEAKER_02: He's just like, this is my team.
- 1:27:34SPEAKER_02: This guy is putting up serious stats.
- 1:27:36SPEAKER_02: He's batting 340 in the month of September.
- 1:27:39SPEAKER_02: He's his on-base streak is just, I think he's at 28-game on-base streak or something crazy like that.
- 1:27:44SPEAKER_02: Oh, sorry, 20 games.
- 1:27:46SPEAKER_02: Um, yeah, this guy's just been absolutely nuts.
- 1:27:48SPEAKER_02: He's been fun to watch, absolutely, but he's been absolutely torching this team.
- 1:27:52SPEAKER_02: I'm just like, why are we even pitching this guy?
- 1:27:54SPEAKER_02: Dodgers have the lead, one-nothing.
- 1:27:56SPEAKER_01: Because if you put him on base, he just steals second on you immediately.
- 1:27:59SPEAKER_02: He's you walk him, you're walking him in the scoring position.
- 1:28:02SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
- 1:28:03SPEAKER_02: It's absolutely ridiculous.
- 1:28:04SPEAKER_01: It's like rec league softball rules, man.
- 1:28:06SPEAKER_01: So you know what I mean?
- 1:28:07SPEAKER_01: Just put him on second.
- 1:28:08SPEAKER_02: You really need to, because it's just been insane to watch.
- 1:28:11SPEAKER_02: But he's hit like the furthest home run.
- 1:28:13SPEAKER_02: I think he hit like the furthest home run in Dodger Stadium.
- 1:28:16SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 1:28:17SPEAKER_02: He hit it out of the stadium, and then he hit the furthest.
- 1:28:20SPEAKER_02: Oh, so yeah, I'm sorry, I'm talking about so he hit the hardest, farthest ball at Dodger Stadium last week.
- 1:28:25SPEAKER_02: And then against in uh in Cincinnati.
- 1:28:28SPEAKER_02: Cincinnati, yeah.
- 1:28:29SPEAKER_02: 4, 67 feet.
- 1:28:31SPEAKER_02: Dude, he hit it out of the whole stadium.
- 1:28:34SPEAKER_02: 57 feet.
- 1:28:35SPEAKER_02: Yeah, sorry.
- 1:28:36SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 1:28:37SPEAKER_02: 457 feet.
- 1:28:39SPEAKER_02: Dude, that that highlight is so crazy to watch.
- 1:28:41SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 1:28:42SPEAKER_02: He just smokes that thing.
- 1:28:43SPEAKER_02: And when you're throwing these pitches, it's not like they're all strikes.
- 1:28:46SPEAKER_02: There are high fastballs that are like at his neck and he's just on it.
- 1:28:49SPEAKER_02: Connecting and just barreling them up.
- 1:28:51SPEAKER_02: It's just it's a beautiful thing.
- 1:28:53SPEAKER_02: He's so fun to watch, dude.
- 1:28:54SPEAKER_02: So much fun to watch.
- 1:28:55SPEAKER_02: He is fun.
- 1:28:56SPEAKER_02: He's not a great defensive second baseman, but he's just, you know, you put him in the outfield, that guy would be a gold gov platinum glover every single time.
- 1:29:02SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he's just he's just fast enough.
- 1:29:04SPEAKER_01: Like, yeah.
- 1:29:05SPEAKER_02: He's got a great arm.
- 1:29:06SPEAKER_02: He should be a two-way player.
- 1:29:07SPEAKER_02: I've said it.
- 1:29:08SPEAKER_02: I'll say it again.
- 1:29:09SPEAKER_02: Let him pitch.
- 1:29:10SPEAKER_02: Let him pitch for sure.
- 1:29:11SPEAKER_01: Let him pitch.
- 1:29:11SPEAKER_02: Uh, of course, I I'm down.
- 1:29:14SPEAKER_02: Let's do that.
- 1:29:14SPEAKER_02: Okay, that's from good.
- 1:29:15SPEAKER_01: That's what I'm talking about, Greg.
- 1:29:16SPEAKER_02: Uh, comment here from a friend of the channel, Temi Price.
- 1:29:18SPEAKER_02: Dodgers need to avoid the wild card.
- 1:29:21SPEAKER_02: Yeah, absolutely, man.
- 1:29:22SPEAKER_02: I just I don't really, I'm not a fan of the wild card round.
- 1:29:25SPEAKER_02: Uh, we were in it last year.
- 1:29:26SPEAKER_02: It's dangerous.
- 1:29:27SPEAKER_02: And we played the Reds.
- 1:29:28SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 1:29:29SPEAKER_02: You know, and yeah, I just don't want to do it again.
- 1:29:31SPEAKER_02: It's not fun.
- 1:29:33SPEAKER_02: Um, your your heart rate can't take it either.
- 1:29:35SPEAKER_02: No.
- 1:29:36SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
- 1:29:36SPEAKER_01: Like you're you're not you're not a you're not a spring chicken anymore.
- 1:29:39SPEAKER_01: Like you're out there just like, oh I appreciate that.
- 1:29:41SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
- 1:29:42SPEAKER_02: I got you, dude.
- 1:29:42SPEAKER_02: You're absolutely right.
- 1:29:43SPEAKER_02: Oh, uh, he is fun to watch.
- 1:29:45SPEAKER_02: Yeah, absolutely.
- 1:29:46SPEAKER_02: It's gonna be great, man.
- 1:29:46SPEAKER_02: Uh, we're coming into the crunch time.
- 1:29:48SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
- 1:29:48SPEAKER_02: We always tease this.
- 1:29:49SPEAKER_02: We're gonna live stream, uh, we're gonna do a live stream during a game there.
- 1:29:52SPEAKER_01: I think we can we live stream, we bring Mr.
- 1:29:54SPEAKER_01: Greg Hawkins on, man.
- 1:29:55SPEAKER_02: Bring him in.
- 1:29:56SPEAKER_02: We got an extra mic, dude.
- 1:29:57SPEAKER_02: We could find an extra chair for you, buddy.
- 1:29:58SPEAKER_01: Let's do it.
- 1:29:58SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we can get him, we can get him a wireless mic, see what see what his opinion is.
- 1:30:01SPEAKER_01: Great.
- 1:30:01SPEAKER_01: Bring him in studio.
- 1:30:02SPEAKER_01: You can tell us what you think, man.
- 1:30:03SPEAKER_02: Yeah, bring him in studio.
- 1:30:04SPEAKER_02: We can do it for sure.
- 1:30:05SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we can put one more chair right here.
- 1:30:06SPEAKER_01: It'd be just fine.
- 1:30:07SPEAKER_02: We'll be good.
- 1:30:08SPEAKER_02: We'll be good.
- 1:30:08SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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- 1:30:31SPEAKER_02: That is AJ, and this has been an episode of the DNA sports recap.
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