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USF WR Bryson Rodgers Joins 4th AND BULL · 4th AND BULL

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to 4th and Bowl presented by Blue Terra. My
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  Speaker 1: name is Nick Wise. Thank you guys so much for
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  Speaker 1: listening and watching. I'm very excited for you guys because
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  Speaker 1: I think you're going to like today's show. Bryson Rogers,
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  Speaker 1: USF wide receiver, going to join us. This was a
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  Speaker 1: really fun conversation. We talked about the game against UTSA.
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  Speaker 1: We talked about rivalries in general because he was off
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  Speaker 1: on Saturday since they played on Thursday. So he got
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  Speaker 1: to watch Oklahoma, Texas. We talked about him playing in
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  Speaker 1: the Michigan, Ohio State stuff. Just a really fun conversation.
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  Speaker 1: We even talked about the ALCS because he's got ties
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  Speaker 1: to Ohio. Obviously, me being a race fan. So that
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  Speaker 1: was a good conversation. But you guys are really going
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  Speaker 1: to enjoy this interview. I really enjoyed talking to him.
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  Speaker 2: Great dude.
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  Speaker 1: part of 4th & Bowl. All right, guys, I won't
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  Speaker 1: make you wait any longer. I take you to my
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  Speaker 1: conversation with Bryson Rogers, wide receiver, USF.
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  Speaker 3: Enjoy.
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  Speaker 2: What's up, dude? How are you?
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  Speaker 3: I'm good, bro. How about yourself?
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  Speaker 2: Doing all right.
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  Speaker 1: I just got a new follower on Instagram. Are you
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  Speaker 1: familiar with Bryson Rogers Lover on Instagram?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm familiar. I've been hearing about it, bro.
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  Speaker 2: Even John Gruden follows this account.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, that's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Which I thought was interesting. So appreciate the new follower.
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  Speaker 1: My name is Nick, by the way. I appreciate you
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  Speaker 1: joining us here on 4th & Bull.
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  Speaker 2: You play NCAA 27?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I do.
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  Speaker 1: I was just looking. They might be done making that game.
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  Speaker 1: What's the process like for you guys? Like, do they get, like, everything,
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  Speaker 1: all the details about you, and then just send you
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  Speaker 1: a couple?
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  Speaker 2: Like, how does that whole process with them work out?
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  Speaker 2: I know they, like, hook up.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so they pretty much go through the facility for, like,
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  Speaker 3: all statistics and stuff. So, like, they go through USF on, like,
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  Speaker 3: your numbers from, like, your metrics. So, like, in the
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  Speaker 3: weight room, that's how they do your metrics on the
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  Speaker 3: game and then your metrics on last year. So like
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  Speaker 3: if you'd had a certain amount of metrics last year,
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  Speaker 3: they go off pretty much based off that. But that's
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  Speaker 3: like all like in building stats, like whatever you run
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  Speaker 3: your 10 yard split out there when we do summer training.
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  Speaker 3: So therefore they'll use those numbers. So like all the
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  Speaker 3: numbers they use are based off what you do actually person.
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  Speaker 2: Got it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I tried to, uh, I, I wanted to do this
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  Speaker 1: bit with you cause I get, you know, I talked
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  Speaker 1: to one of you guys every week. I wanted to
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  Speaker 1: do the bit to see if you guys all like
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  Speaker 1: the way that you look and I started it with
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  Speaker 1: Grayson Pop Howard and he kind of thought it looked
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  Speaker 1: like him. And then as I went further into it,
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  Speaker 1: they kind of got more realistic and like, I haven't
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  Speaker 1: seen any crazy ones. So it didn't really last very long.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: But, uh, what did you, uh, what'd you do on
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  Speaker 1: your day off with, uh, with Saturday? And then since
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  Speaker 1: you guys had a Thursday game, did you get to watch, uh,
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  Speaker 1: any college football?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Watch football all day. Watch all day. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Oklahoma, Texas game was, uh, What is it about those
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  Speaker 1: rivalry games? You've played in rivalry games with Ohio State, too.
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  Speaker 1: You guys lost to Michigan in 24. You beat them
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  Speaker 1: in 25. I think I can bring up the loss
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  Speaker 1: in 24 because you went on to win the Natty,
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  Speaker 1: so it was probably.
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  Speaker 3: But.
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  Speaker 1: What is it about those rivalry games where the team...
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  Speaker 1: Oklahoma's never supposed to be in that game. Same with
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  Speaker 1: Michigan in 24, right? What is it about those rivalry
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  Speaker 1: games that's just a little bit different?
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  Speaker 3: I say with being at Ohio State, it was always
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  Speaker 3: tough playing them last game of the year because, one,
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  Speaker 3: they're either in a really good position or a really
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  Speaker 3: bad position. So, like, that 24-year, they was in a
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  Speaker 3: really bad position. So that was like their Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 3: They knew that was their last game of the year. So, like,
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  Speaker 3: you kind of get their absolute best shot. With, like, those, now, like,
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  Speaker 3: with Texas and Oklahoma, I kind of want to, I
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  Speaker 3: wanted to see, like, because one of my boys that
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  Speaker 3: played at Wiregrass Ranch named Grayson Littleton, I was asking, like,
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  Speaker 3: how does it feel like playing a rival so early?
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  Speaker 3: And he said, like, it's like kind of weird because
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  Speaker 3: you're kind of gaining momentum, but you know that's going
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  Speaker 3: to be a game no matter what. No matter the
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  Speaker 3: X's and O's, no matter the scheme, no matter what,
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  Speaker 3: it's always going to be a dogfight. I think that's
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  Speaker 3: the biggest thing with Rivals. It's more about really the
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  Speaker 3: mental space of it than it is the X's and
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  Speaker 3: O's because when you get out there, those really go
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  Speaker 3: out the window. It's all about the team that plays
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  Speaker 3: harder almost.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because in 24, you guys were no doubt more talented.
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  Speaker 1: Was it more just like a mental thing? Like, we
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  Speaker 1: haven't done this in a while. We got to go
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  Speaker 1: out there and do it. And then it just kind
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  Speaker 1: of backfired.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we just underestimated the opponent. Like, all right,
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  Speaker 3: they ain't really shit. Like, they don't got too much
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  Speaker 3: on their team. Like, talent-wise, we blow them out the water. Like,
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  Speaker 3: we're just going to come through and do what we do.
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  Speaker 3: But it's always an extra, especially in that rivalry, it's
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  Speaker 3: just an extra edge to it. So if you come
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  Speaker 3: out BSing, then you get caught lacking. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So this weekend you got to watch football. That's awesome.
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  Speaker 2: What about tonight?
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  Speaker 1: You're watching baseball tonight. I know you have ties in Ohio.
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  Speaker 1: You're also from Tampa. So let me get this straight.
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  Speaker 1: Are you from Ohio and then moved down here to
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  Speaker 1: play high school football and then back to play college
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  Speaker 1: and then back to– or are you originally from here
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  Speaker 1: or Ohio?
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  Speaker 2: It was really– I couldn't understand.
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  Speaker 3: I was born in Ohio. I moved here when I
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  Speaker 3: was two months old. I had a tragedy happen like–
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  Speaker 3: like in this in the state like we were staying
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  Speaker 3: in warren ohio at the time and it was like
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  Speaker 3: a kind of like a violent thing that happened like
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  Speaker 3: right next to our home so my mom ended up
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  Speaker 3: raising me down here so i've been here literally since
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  Speaker 3: i've been two three months.
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  Speaker 1: Years old okay and then went back to ohio and
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  Speaker 1: then came back down here got it so you watching
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  Speaker 1: baseball at all race.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah so i'm actually i'm actually a guardians man yeah
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  Speaker 3: i don't know because like so like during the summers
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  Speaker 3: like I used to always go to Ohio every summer
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  Speaker 3: since I was five, probably to, like, maybe seventh grade.
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  Speaker 3: And my papa has a man cave. My grandpa has
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  Speaker 3: a man cave. And every time the Indians played, it
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  Speaker 3: didn't matter what you were doing. You had to come
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  Speaker 3: and watch the game, all nine innings of the game. So, like,
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  Speaker 3: I grew up more on Cleveland Indians baseball than I
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  Speaker 3: did Tampa Bay Rays. But, like, I always root for
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  Speaker 3: the home team. But now, like, in this type of predicament,
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  Speaker 3: I got to go for the Indians, bro. I got
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  Speaker 3: to go for the Guardians.
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  Speaker 2: Ah, that's not what we want to hear.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's going to be a good series. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: the Guardians got game one. Game two is tonight. I'm
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  Speaker 1: excited for that. You think it's going to go six
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  Speaker 1: or seven, or you think the Guardians are going to
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  Speaker 1: be able to pull off the sweep?
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  Speaker 3: I think it'll go six or seven. I think it'll
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  Speaker 3: go six or seven. I think the biggest thing with
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  Speaker 3: the Guardians is bullpen rotation. But, I mean, offensively, they
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  Speaker 3: got the bet. But I think that with the Rays,
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  Speaker 3: I think they're a little deeper in the bullpen, so
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  Speaker 3: they can definitely extend. And then they also got some
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  Speaker 3: weapons on offense as well.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that bullpen looked good last night for Cleveland. Not
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  Speaker 1: so much for the Rays, unfortunately.
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  Speaker 2: But Cleveland, they're very experienced, man.
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  Speaker 1: They've been there before. They just never can get over
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  Speaker 1: the top. And I think it's cool for baseball. Like,
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  Speaker 1: they're a low-spending payroll. So are the Rays. And you
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  Speaker 1: got the Brewers on the other side. And, you know,
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  Speaker 1: they're up 2-0 on the Dodgers right now.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a series right there. That's a really good team,
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  Speaker 3: the Brewer-Dodgers. That's a really good series.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm enjoying it right now.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I meant to bring it up when I
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  Speaker 1: was playing NCAA 27. I made myself the coach at USF.
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  Speaker 1: I had to, like, fight with you to get you
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  Speaker 1: back to come back. I do appreciate you coming back
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  Speaker 1: to my team.
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  Speaker 3: Definitely, for sure.
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  Speaker 2: We had a great year together. Take me through.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit about Thursday's game, that 42-yard touchdown.
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  Speaker 2: Just take me through that play. It was a great catch,
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  Speaker 2: great throw.
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  Speaker 1: What did you see when you got to the line
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  Speaker 1: of scrimmage in the defense? Just kind of take us
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  Speaker 1: through that. You know, that's one of the highlights on Thursday.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we was working at condensed look all week at practice.
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  Speaker 3: We kind of knew a little tendency they had to
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  Speaker 3: condensed lift, trying to get a certain check. So I
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  Speaker 3: knew we got about around midfield, anywhere around that midfield mark,
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  Speaker 3: we wanted to get a shot up. And I think
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  Speaker 3: that's one thing in the offense we really wanted to grow,
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  Speaker 3: is just being very explosive. We always chase explosives as
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  Speaker 3: an offense. That's any offense in the country. But for us,
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  Speaker 3: I feel like it's been a really vocal point that
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  Speaker 3: we want to get the explosives, and I'm willing to
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  Speaker 3: do that job. I got an opportunity to get a
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  Speaker 3: look that we really liked. Mike trusted me. He threw
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  Speaker 3: the put earlier on the boy through absolute dot, and
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  Speaker 3: we got the exact look we wanted, and it ended
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  Speaker 3: up being seven points.
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  Speaker 1: What about on the, there was also another play, I
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  Speaker 1: think it was early in the second half, where I
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  Speaker 1: thought you were kind of wide open, but watching on
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  Speaker 1: TV doesn't always tell the whole story. I couldn't tell
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  Speaker 1: if Michael Van Buren Jr. was just under a lot
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  Speaker 1: of pressure, but it looked like you had The coverage
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  Speaker 1: kind of broke open. You were wide open, and if
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  Speaker 1: the ball gets to you, it was going to be
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  Speaker 1: another touchdown. Do you know what play I'm talking about?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you're talking about second half, second drive. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: we got third down. You're talking about the third down,
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  Speaker 3: corner route. Yeah, they went zero, so they kind of
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  Speaker 3: caught us by surprise, honestly. After we hit the post
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  Speaker 3: for the touchdown, we really, coming out second half, we're like,
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  Speaker 3: all right, we're going to back up, really control this game,
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  Speaker 3: hit our underneath stuff, run the ball, run the clock,
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  Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying? Yeah. And they ended up
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  Speaker 3: second half– second drive of the second half going cover
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  Speaker 3: zero on third down. So we were using that motion
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  Speaker 3: to kind of get man's own tails. And once I
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  Speaker 3: came down in motion, I kind of see the guy
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  Speaker 3: follow me with some low– with some low body tendencies.
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  Speaker 3: And I was like, okay, this is zero. It's going
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  Speaker 3: to be another touchdown. And I kind of saw it
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  Speaker 3: as that was the point we were supposed to really
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  Speaker 3: break that game open right there. I think that would
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  Speaker 3: have took the air out of him, you know, getting
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  Speaker 3: that touchdown. Another explosive right there. But, yeah, it's just–
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  Speaker 3: They went zero. They kind of caught us lacking, if
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  Speaker 3: that's the best way to say it. They went zero.
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  Speaker 3: They mugged up, went zero. I ran a good route,
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  Speaker 3: and it's unfortunate that we couldn't get the ball out.
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  Speaker 1: When you see cover zero as a wide receiver, do
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  Speaker 1: you just get super excited?
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  Speaker 3: I almost jumped off sides. I was so ready to
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  Speaker 3: take off in motion. I was like, because I've seen
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  Speaker 3: them on film. They ran the same. They run the same.
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  Speaker 3: they run the same two defenses on third down all week.
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  Speaker 3: So I was like, well, if they pop this zero,
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  Speaker 3: it is a touchdown. And that's what we had to
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  Speaker 3: play for. We had it for zero free access. Like,
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  Speaker 3: we had answers. And once I saw it, I was like, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it's me versus this guy covering me at eight yards.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to go score.
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  Speaker 1: You guys have the 17-10 lead at halftime. What changed
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  Speaker 1: at halftime? Because, you know, for most of the season,
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  Speaker 1: it's like I think the offense kind of starts off
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  Speaker 1: a little bit slow, and then you guys get into
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  Speaker 1: your groove in that second half. This game, it kind
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  Speaker 1: of felt like it was the opposite. Did you guys
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  Speaker 1: change things up at halftime, or did they change up
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  Speaker 1: some things defensively for you guys?
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  Speaker 3: Nah, I mean, they really kept everything what we expected
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  Speaker 3: defensively on our end. I think our defense made some
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  Speaker 3: solid adjustments, and they did some stuff that they didn't expect.
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  Speaker 3: The quarterback, we knew he could throw, and he knew
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  Speaker 3: he was trying to get the ball out fast, but
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  Speaker 3: he was dropping back a lot, delivering. He was dropping back, delivering.
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  Speaker 3: when he didn't have it on third downs, he was
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  Speaker 3: taking the rushing lanes and getting the first. And I
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  Speaker 3: think that kind of, you know, caught us by surprise
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  Speaker 3: a little bit on that first drive where defense went
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  Speaker 3: out there. But, I mean, I think, like I was
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  Speaker 3: telling the guys at halftime, I felt like we had
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  Speaker 3: them right where we wanted, up seven at third place.
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  Speaker 3: They felt an urgency to score. I felt like if
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  Speaker 3: we got a turnover or even a three and out
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  Speaker 3: in that position that, like you said, we come out
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  Speaker 3: pretty much blazing in the second half offensively that we
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  Speaker 3: were going to go score. And we've been really good
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  Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter as well. So, yeah, when we
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  Speaker 3: started out the first two drives, I was kind of
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  Speaker 3: surprised by it. me but i mean they didn't stop
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  Speaker 3: us we stopped ourselves and that's really been kind of
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  Speaker 3: the main thing we've been honing in on is how
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  Speaker 3: good we could be as an offense because every time
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  Speaker 3: we really get stopped we've been stopping ourselves it's p
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  Speaker 3: and 10 behind the sticks if it's a penalty you
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  Speaker 3: know i'm saying off explosive we've really just been hurting
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  Speaker 3: ourselves but i think once we take care of those
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  Speaker 3: those issues man this offense can be really dynamic as
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  Speaker 3: you can see when we're rolling we're rolling we we
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  Speaker 3: can go right down the field in a couple minutes
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  Speaker 3: and we're probably maybe one or two tempo plays in there,
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  Speaker 3: but I think we just got to do a better
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  Speaker 3: job of just being the little details. I think they
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  Speaker 3: caught us by surprise defensively when they came out in halftime,
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  Speaker 3: and then once we got into that 17-7 type of
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  Speaker 3: ball game, we really wanted to score, and we kind
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  Speaker 3: of missed our opportunities that first two drives.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it definitely doesn't feel like a talent issue. It
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  Speaker 1: feels like you guys are loaded on offense. Is it
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  Speaker 1: just the little details that are keeping it from being
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  Speaker 1: you've mentioned explosive plays. Is it just the little details
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  Speaker 1: that is keeping the explosive plays from being consistent or
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  Speaker 1: more consistent for you guys on offense?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I say so, bro. Like I said, we got
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  Speaker 3: talent in every department and receivers, running backs, our quarterbacks, talents,
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  Speaker 3: our offensive line does a great job. It's not a
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  Speaker 3: talent issue. We just got to really hone in on
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  Speaker 3: the little details because, I mean, that's the thing. When
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  Speaker 3: you have talented guys, the little details kind of slip
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  Speaker 3: up because of how talented and skilled they are, you
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  Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, to kind of get overlooked. So
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  Speaker 3: I think we just– A talented offense, we've got to
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  Speaker 3: just key in on the little details and just doing
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  Speaker 3: those little things right to make us even better and
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  Speaker 3: put us in a better position.
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  Speaker 1: Since Hartline was calling the plays and it was offensive
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  Speaker 1: coordinator at Ohio State and then you guys both come
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  Speaker 1: here together, is the offense still pretty much similar? Because
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  Speaker 1: I know Tim Beck obviously wasn't at Ohio State. Is
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  Speaker 1: it a combination of the two of them coming together
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  Speaker 1: or is it the same system that you guys were
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  Speaker 1: running with Ohio State?
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  Speaker 3: I think it's very similar. I think they're making it
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  Speaker 3: their own and trying different ways, again, different formations and
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  Speaker 3: different personnel packages. But I see it very similar, and
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  Speaker 3: that was a main reason why I came here, just
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  Speaker 3: how comfortable I was with this offensive scheme and how
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  Speaker 3: explosive it can be. Like we were talking about earlier,
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  Speaker 3: the flashes, you see how explosive it can be in
• 13:55
  Speaker 3: the drop back, in the run game, in the quick pass.
• 13:58
  Speaker 3: This offense has answers everywhere. So I say it's very familiar,
• 14:02
  Speaker 3: and I think the more our guys, get become masters
• 14:07
  Speaker 3: at it and we really truly understand everybody is you
• 14:09
  Speaker 3: know understanding everybody's job like just doing their 111 is
• 14:14
  Speaker 3: going to be exceptional but and I hate to be
• 14:16
  Speaker 3: like oh you got to give us time you got
• 14:18
  Speaker 3: to give us time but it truly is like this
• 14:20
  Speaker 3: is a pro style offense this ain't no and I'm
• 14:22
  Speaker 3: not throwing no discs but it's not like Tennessee just
• 14:24
  Speaker 3: go splits out there and run digs go balls and
• 14:27
  Speaker 3: curls all day like it's not that you know I'm
• 14:29
  Speaker 3: saying an option routes like It's true. You have to
• 14:32
  Speaker 3: have a true understanding to play in this offense. As
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: a receiver, you've got to really understand the receiver position
• 14:36
  Speaker 3: from the slot to the outside to the boundary to
• 14:38
  Speaker 3: the field. You've got to really understand how to play receivers.
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: So I feel like once we keep doing that, our
• 14:43
  Speaker 3: backs keep learning. This offense, our quarterback and even us receivers,
• 14:47
  Speaker 3: just really having a diverse understanding of the offense will
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: be better and better.
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the Tennessee offense, which is kind of what they
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: were running last year, it's kind of like really a
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: one-read system.
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: They kind of simplify it for the quarterbacks, correct?
• 14:57
  Speaker 3: Exactly. Exactly that. Yeah. So.
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: you got you know you said you don't want to
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: use it as an excuse um trying to get it
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: together as the team is it I feel like college
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: football it's changed so much like expect it and a
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: lot of it's because of Indiana and Kurt Cignetti is
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: it is it is it like is it hard to
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: kind of come together as a team but it kind
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: of feels like every single year that's going to be
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: a thing where there's so many new players in and
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: out with the transfer portal and it's always going to
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: be a new team like How do you kind of
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: just get in that rhythm and figure it out quickly
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: as a team? Because that was always my concern coming in.
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: It's like looking at the offensive line, like all of
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: those guys, super talented, played a lot of ball, just
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: not a lot of ball together.
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: And, you know, you could see it in the beginning.
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: Like how do you guys kind of just get over
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: that knowing it could be like that next year too, right?
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: Right, yeah. I think we just– we're in a race
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: to make up for lost time, as we say in
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: the building. Like you said, none of these– none of–
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: Nobody on our offense has played together. You know what
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: I'm saying? So, like, that is becoming a tougher thing
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: because usually back in the day you had the same
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: quarterback for three years. You had the same running back
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: for a couple years. You had the same offensive line
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: that gelled and went day in and day out together.
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: So it's like with college football evolving, that's becoming more
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: and more slim of those chances. So, like you said, yeah,
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: we just got to keep finding ways to gel together
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: and make up for lost time because this is our
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: first year together and we do have high expectations. And
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: probably higher expectations than guys have ever– really had on
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: their plate, you know what I'm saying? Like certain people
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: come from certain places and the expectation wasn't that high.
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: When you come here under a Brian Hartline offense, now
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: you really got to have firepower. You got to be
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: at your best every weekend and week out, or if not,
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: you're failing, you're not succeeding. So just really understanding that role,
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying? And just, you know, just
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: trying to gel together at any moment possible, whether that's
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: on or off the field, you know, getting to know
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: each other's tendencies or, you know, just knowing how to
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: motivate a guy, just all those type of things, how
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: to communicate. And once we do that, man, we're going
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: to be special. We really are. I truly believe it.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, off the field, you guys seem, you know,
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: I got to meet a lot of you guys at
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: Bulls Fest. I didn't get to run into you, unfortunately,
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: but I did run into a lot of teammates at
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: Bulls Fest and then obviously talking to each of you
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: guys here once a week on 4th and Bulls. it
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: feels like you guys are super close as a group,
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: which I, I find really cool. In fact, I compared
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: you guys a lot to, since you are a baseball fan,
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: we talk baseball. I compared you guys a lot to
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: the race, like a team that just is really close,
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: loves each other. And I feel like we're just kind
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: of waiting for that to, to come out onto the field, to,
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: to get that four quarters of really good football. Like
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: you guys have it in spurts. We know it's in
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: there and we're just like, we're waiting for that four
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: quarter game. And you think that's just something that comes
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: with time then?
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah. I think it's time. I definitely think it's time, but, um,
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: It's a process. It really is. It truly is a process. Yeah,
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: you want the instant results, but that's just not how
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: life works, man. It's really a true process. With an
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: offensive system like this, it's going to take a little
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: bit of time, but once things start clicking, we can
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: really do some things here.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: Do you like running the offensive way? Do you like
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: when you guys kind of get into the up-tempo stuff?
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: You seem to have success.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: I couldn't tell. The Army game, obviously, was a huge one.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: It kind of felt like they kind of just really
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: dropped back into the soft coverage and kind of gave
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: you guys whatever you wanted, but Do you like when
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: you get into that up-tempo stuff, or do you enjoy
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: playing at the slower rate? Because obviously fans are like,
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: I want to see him slinging everywhere, and I want
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: him to go fast, more points, more points. What do
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: you prefer as a player?
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: I like both, man. I think it really just depends
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: on the team. Like Army, I knew we had really
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: advantage in two minutes because of how late they got
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: their calls in. They're calling off a lot of defensive coordinators,
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: call off formations. The fact that we can get into
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: a formation and don't let them get the call they want,
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: we can dink and dump and do whatever we want.
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: I feel like that's what we did for that game
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: to lead that comeback drive. I felt like even Delaware State,
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: when we came out, they were formation-based. They tried to
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: get their call from the formation. So we had early
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: success in that game and came out and scored. I
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: do like the tempo. It's easy touches. You can get
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: your guys going faster. We can get us receivers going faster,
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: get us some touches. and then create explosives that always
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: give you a better chance to lead the point. So
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: I've definitely been a fan of our tempo, and we've
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: had really good success in the two-minute drill. We had
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: very good success in being in two-minute offense. I think
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: we could enhance it and use it a couple more times,
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: but that just all comes with just trust, and the
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: coach is trusting us as players to get that done.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: So the more we keep doing it, the more they'll
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: trust us, the more we'll keep implementing that in our
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: game plans and get it up early.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: You talked about expectations and obviously come from Ohio State.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's not many schools that have higher expectations
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: and you come here. Expectations are high, too. How do
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: you guys stay focused, you know, with the outside noise?
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: How do you guys stay focused as a team and
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: kind of. uh avoid any distractions that that could be
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: out there after you know the last two weeks yeah.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: I just say keep playing for the love of your
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: brother um the outside noise is always going to be
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: there this is what you sign up for you play
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: this sport even in the professionals is even worse you
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: know what i'm saying so I mean, this is what
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: you do. You can't let the outside noise affect the
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: love you got for your brother and how hard you
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: play for him. So I think that's the little things
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: as well, trying to not get distracted and caught up
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: in the outside noise because everybody's going to have their
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: own opinion. That's what social media is for. They can
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: hide behind the screen and have their opinion. You know
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: what I'm saying? So that's how they want to do it.
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: That's how they want to do it. But you as
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: the player, you as the pro, you got to be
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: a pro and attack it as that. You know what
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: I'm saying? Like you want to. keep them talking good,
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: keep playing good. You know what I'm saying? If you
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: play bad, you give them, you give them, you give
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: them a window. So you're in control of your own fate,
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: but it's just us as a team, just playing for
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: the love of our brother and just staying united together.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: I always get a lot of positive comments from doing
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: this podcast. Cause the USF fan base is so they're just,
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: they're great group and they're very supportive radio show. For example,
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: like I'll get all kinds, like I said some things
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: about Florida state yesterday and, the comments that I get,
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: you know, they're the meanest things in the world. Do
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: you read the comments about yourself at times? Do you
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: just try to ignore it? Because there's times where I
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: see the notifications, I'm like, eh, I probably shouldn't even
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: open the notifications.
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: It ain't good in there. Yeah. I mean, I use
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: that type of stuff as motivation, bro. I mean, like,
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: people's words never affected me, you know what I'm saying,
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: mentally or physically. Like, I like that type of stuff.
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: It's fueling to me when I see bad stuff, you know? Like,
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: I add fuel to the fire. I'm the type of
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: guy that makes... turns negative into positive. So like anything
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: you do negative, negative towards me, I'm turning it into
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: a positive. I'm going to turn it into motivation. Uh,
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: maybe laugh. I might get a laugh. So I'm going
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: to be funny. Like for real, for real, they do
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: be funny. They are, they got, if you spend that
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: time out your day to make me laugh, like I'm just,
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: I'm going to just keep benefiting off your negativity. Cause like,
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: I just never been a negative person. So it's either
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: just a laugh, you know, a fuel to the fire, motivation,
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: something like that. Like I don't really see too much
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: negative stuff. Um, You know, if I see it, I
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: see it. If I don't, I most likely don't. But
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: if I see something negative, it doesn't really affect me
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: too much, man. You know, because they'll be the same
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: person next week talking about how good you are.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, I get a kick out of them, too.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: Sometimes I'll even reply like, hey, thanks for listening. So,
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: if you see the negative stuff, you just turn it
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: into a positive?
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: Absolutely. Every time, bro. It's the best way.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: Bryson, you can't catch, man.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: Now you're going to have a big game this weekend.
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: Hey, man, I really appreciate your time. I'll let you go.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: Baseball game going to start here pretty soon. We're both
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: going to be locked in. What's the prediction for tonight's game?
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: I got the Rays winning this one. They got to
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: get back in it tonight.
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the Rays get back in it tonight.
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: So I'll go they win tonight tied up 1-1.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Bryson, you're the best, man.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: I really appreciate your time this evening, actually. Enjoy the
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: game tonight, and hopefully we'll talk soon, man. I had
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: a lot of fun doing this.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, brother. Thank you. Appreciate you having me.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: Good luck the rest of the way.
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: Anytime, man. Thank you, bro.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: Talk to you soon.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: Yes, sir.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: He was great.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: I'll have another episode out for you guys tomorrow. We'll
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: preview the game this weekend. I think TJ Reeves will
• 23:02
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• 23:04
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• 23:07
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• 24:17
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