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Mom Blames Her Teenage Son For Needing To Open Her Marriage · Papa Gut

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  When we talked about having an open marriage, one of his
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  questions for me was like, aren't we OK?
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  Be enough for you? Who's?
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  We What the hell is that? And it kind of broke my heart,
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  but then I. Wait, this is her teenage son?
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  Asked her this question. Aren't we enough for you with
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  this? Would you tell your teenage son
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  if you're going to go Polly? I guess maybe you should, but
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  then why should you? I don't know.
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  What the fuck? Are you going to have strange
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  men in the house? I feel like if I was going to do
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  an open marriage, which I wouldn't with my wife, I
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  wouldn't have. I why would you need to tell
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  your kids? This is something that you
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  should. I'm going to be real with you.
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  Be ashamed of a little bit, you know, like do it outside the
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  house. Keep it to yourself, you and
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  your husband. You know, you guys don't have to
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  publicize it. I don't understand why you
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  wouldn't tell your kids about this.
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  What? Thought about it and I said like
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  no. You said no, your kids are not
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  enough to your kids. Your kids asked if they're
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  enough and that's what you said. What?
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  What? Dude, that's crazy.
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  Why not say if you're going to tell your teenage son that
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  you're in an open relationship with your husband?
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  Which is fucking crazy to me, but OK, Why would you put it on
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  them? That's like like imagine they
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  got divorced and it's like, I thought we were enough for you
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  and then this and you're like, no, you're not like that's
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  you're putting it on your kid. Because listen, listen, I get
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  it. Some people are different and
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  like they do open marriages and maybe that's good for them.
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  To me, it seems like they're trying to subsidize like a
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  failure in their relationship. But I could be wrong, right?
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  But it's seen like stigma wise, it's seen as a negative, like
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  something is irregular. Like why am I why?
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  Like, hey, why are you getting a divorce?
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  Why are you know what I mean? So when you say you're not
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  enough, you're just telling your kid it's their fault for your
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  relationship not doing well instead of that's the that's the
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  default indication in their brain instead of sitting down
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  and saying, listen, this has nothing to do with you, me and
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  your dad. You know, we love each other a
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  lot. And this is just something that
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  we're doing to keep everything, everything fresh so that we stay
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  together forever. I don't know, something like
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  that, you know, maybe that's what something productive, you
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  know, like your dad really likes and I'm just not going to give
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  it to him. Say that's your 12 year old son,
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  but have an open communication because it's already something
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  that's seen as like a regular and they're going to internalize
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  it as they made a mistake and said you're just like damaging
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  your kids mental health because you want some.
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  It's kind of pathetic. Sorry, sweetie, no, I'm like,
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  you don't want a mom who's living for you and through you.
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  What what? Why would you even say that to
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  your kid? That sounds so selfish.
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  I would. If I was your kid, I'd have a
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  significant mental health distress.
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  You know, trust me, I've seen those moms and they are no fun,
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  but I think. You don't seem very fun.
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  I'm going to keep it a stack with you girl I.
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  Think just normalizing that for women.
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  I I don't think we expect men to feel like having wife and
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  children is enough. We we allow what men to have a
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  full rich life outside of their marriage.
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  I think I'm getting brain warmed, sorry.
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  So just to be absolutely clear, it's not socially acceptable for
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  men to cheat, right? It's seen as worse if a woman
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  cheats because of the relationship many women have.
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  It's right. We can talk about that, but I
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  don't, we don't need to because what we need to talk about right
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  now is the fact that you're comparing this classical idea.
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  And I understand where you're at.
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  And it's insane where like historically, women would be the
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  ones at home. They would be taking care of the
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  kids and the house and all this and the, the, the dad would be
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  outside and he'd be working and he'd be able to have financial
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  control, which gave someone more fulfilling life because it's
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  more acceptable for him to go have hobbies.
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  So that's the fulfillment that he has outside of the
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  relationship. And she's comparing wanting to
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  have other men and then explaining it really poorly to
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  her husband to her kids as just fulfillment outside of the
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  marriage. But this is 2026.
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  It's totally normal for you to be able to go outside the house
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  and get a hobby. Unless you're just talking about
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  him having a mistress. I don't know.
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  But like you could do, you could go and have a side piece, a side
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  wean without expressing it to everybody.
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  So regardless of the direction that she's going here, it
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  doesn't make any sense. She's just like horrifically
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  rationalizing this. And it's such an unintelligent,
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  excuse me, unintelligent anti intellectual expression of what
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  she's doing and rationalization that like it's very clear she
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  knows that she's wrong, but she was just being selfish.
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  She just wants to do something and she's finding out like the
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  worst rationalizations of it, right?
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  Like you've thought about this a lot and it's in the wrong way.
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  Sit down with your kids and talk to them.
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  If you're going to talk to them, like what the Also, it sounds
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  like you want to bring these weird men around the house.
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  That's really disrupting and strange.
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  Nobody wants a husk of a person as a mother.
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  OK, this person's terrible.