Latest / Military Broadcast Radio | MBR Talk / Conversations With A Vet - AF Veteran Teanna Lambert
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- 1:07Well, good evening everybody and welcome to Conversations with a
- 1:10Vet this Sunday. Hopefully everybody's had a
- 1:13wonderful weekend. I would like to start off by
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- 2:17you know your thoughts. So thank you all for watching.
- 2:21I do have a wonderful guest waiting.
- 2:24Her name is Tiana Lambert and so please help me welcome her to
- 2:29the stage. Hi.
- 2:31Hi, good evening. How is your weekend doing?
- 2:35It has been a great weekend. Lovely weekend actually.
- 2:39So. That's a good thing.
- 2:41Yeah. That's a wonder.
- 2:43Yeah. It's been good.
- 2:45The weather hasn't been too bad. Got the lawn mowed before it
- 2:48started to storm. I felt like I accomplished
- 2:51something just by doing all of that.
- 2:55That's always the hard part, right?
- 2:56Is, is timing of things? Yes, so.
- 3:01Well, thank you so very much for agreeing to come on the channel
- 3:04and telling your story. I'd like to usually ask my
- 3:08guests when at the start to tell me a little bit about who you
- 3:13were as a child. So who was Tiana as a child?
- 3:17Wow, that's a good question. First of all, I just want to say
- 3:21thank you so much for having me and thank you for facilitating a
- 3:26podcast like this where veterans do have the opportunity to come
- 3:29on and share their stories and who they were before, during and
- 3:32after service. So it's sometimes multiple
- 3:35different people in there. Exactly right.
- 3:39It's that whole growth process. And yeah, so thank you.
- 3:43Yeah. So I was, prior to military
- 3:48service, I grew up in a small, very rural, very poor area of
- 3:54northern New York, about two miles South of the Canadian
- 3:58border, in the middle of nowhere.
- 4:01So much so that when I was a little girl, before I went to
- 4:04kindergarten, my mom had asked me who the president of the
- 4:09United States was. And I did not know.
- 4:12I knew who the Prime Minister of Canada was because we did not
- 4:16get. Cable where I.
- 4:18We had rabbit ears and that we only got Canadian television
- 4:25stations. So that's that's what I watched.
- 4:28And the ironic thing was my mom worked for the cable company and
- 4:33so. You went to work the.
- 4:34Next day and within a week we had cable because the guys at
- 4:39work were like, no way is that little girl going to grow up and
- 4:41not know that she's American. So, yeah, so I grew up just, you
- 4:49know, the oldest of three kids had, you know, my parents ended
- 4:54up divorced and remarried and all that, all that stuff.
- 4:58And so, yeah, just that's that's who I was.
- 5:01I was a good student. I was a cheerleader in high
- 5:04school. I.
- 5:06Went to like 4 different high schools.
- 5:08So it was we moved around a lot and we were not a military
- 5:13family, so. Yeah, that does make a
- 5:16difference, doesn't it? It's hard.
- 5:19How was it for you with, you know, making friends and and
- 5:24moving all the time? Was that a difficult thing?
- 5:26It was definitely difficult. It was, it was very difficult.
- 5:30I mean, I went to four different high schools.
- 5:32So I mean, high school is only four years long.
- 5:35So I was, I was somewhere different quite frequently.
- 5:40And it was definitely a challenge because you just, you
- 5:44know, at that, at that stage of life, you're coming into people
- 5:48already have their friend groups and things like that.
- 5:51And you're trying to figure out who you who you are already in
- 5:55that age demographic. And then you're trying to figure
- 5:58out where you fit in. And do you fit in in this group
- 6:02at the last school where you in you were in?
- 6:04But are you fitting in with those people here or is that not
- 6:07going to work out? And it just definitely was
- 6:10challenging, but I had some great friends, you know, that I
- 6:14ended up graduating high school with so.
- 6:16Right, which is wonderful that you had that.
- 6:20So all right, did you do any sports or probably no time when
- 6:24you were a cheerleader, did you? That was my sport.
- 6:29OK, I apologize profusely. Yes.
- 6:32Outside of cheerleading, did you do any other sports?
- 6:35Not in high school, no. OK.
- 6:37No, I did not. What was it then that made you
- 6:42decide that you wanted to join the military and specifically
- 6:47the Air Force? So I actually didn't join the
- 6:50Air Force straight out of high school.
- 6:53I actually went to college for a year and just was probably not
- 6:59making the best life decisions. And so I had taken a little
- 7:03break from from school and I actually did the Miss New York
- 7:08US USA pageant. And so the the person who won
- 7:14that year was actually in the Navy at the same time as she was
- 7:18competing in the Miss New York USA pageant.
- 7:20And I was really actually very inspired by the talk that she
- 7:24gave and the way she carried herself and just some different
- 7:28things, you know, that that she had.
- 7:30And I was like, OK, that that was really inspiring to me.
- 7:33As a. Fellow contestant and I, I kind
- 7:38of knew I didn't want to go back to school at that time and I
- 7:42literally just woke up 1 morning and was like, I'm going to go
- 7:45talk to a recruiter today. And if I don't do it now, I'm
- 7:48never going to get out of this place.
- 7:50That's really what happened, right?
- 7:53So I joined the Air Force. My, my stepdad was in the Air
- 7:57Force prior to him and my mom being married.
- 8:00So I did, you know, hear his stories.
- 8:03My grandpa was a World War 2 veteran.
- 8:05And so I, I had heard stories and just had that sense of
- 8:10pride. And I had also while I was in
- 8:14college, was during 9/11 happened when I was in college.
- 8:18And so just seeing that, I think there's, there's a lot of people
- 8:23probably in my, in my age group that went one way or another,
- 8:27right? We're like, OK, we're going to
- 8:28stand up and we're going to, we're going to serve our country
- 8:31and, and, and do that. And so that that's what I chose
- 8:35to do. And, and I think that's such a
- 8:38great thing. It's a lot of people don't
- 8:41understand, especially nowadays, you know, the drive or the want
- 8:48to join the military. And then you have the opposite
- 8:52side of the spectrum, who I mean, you're all volunteers.
- 8:56Every one of you at this stage are volunteers.
- 9:00And so to me, that speaks volumes about the kind of person
- 9:07that you are and to serve the country and be able to at a
- 9:16moment's notice, you know, fight to defend our freedoms.
- 9:22So thank you for that. Thank you.
- 9:27How was it when you get to your base, your training, basic
- 9:36training? What was it like when you first
- 9:40get there? You first step foot?
- 9:42What was going through your head?
- 9:45What the heck have I done? That's absolutely what was going
- 9:50through my mind. I was like, I I don't know that
- 9:53I've made the best choice right now.
- 9:56You know, you're getting yelled at to get off the bus, to hurry
- 9:59up, get off the bus. Prior to even getting there.
- 10:03I had never flown by myself before.
- 10:06I had never ridden on a bus by myself before.
- 10:09I had to take a bus from where I lived in rural New York to get
- 10:12to an airport like 3 hours away. And so I had to do that first.
- 10:18And then I get there and, you know, changing planes, all that
- 10:22kind of stuff. And so I had never, ever done
- 10:24any of that by myself before. And I had only ever been on a
- 10:28plane one other time. So it's not like I had flown
- 10:31regularly or anything like that. And you get there and you're
- 10:33tired and you don't know what to expect.
- 10:35And you what you should expect is just to get yelled at.
- 10:40Well, and your nerves are already on high alert because I,
- 10:44I remember what you were Speaking of as far as the first
- 10:49time flying by yourself, even I mean for you this first time
- 10:53ever, but first time flying by yourself, you, it's your
- 10:57experience. It the same way you don't know
- 11:00where anything is. You don't know where these gates
- 11:02are. You don't know, you know, So
- 11:04you're struggling to figure this all out because the worst thing
- 11:08in the world is going to be to miss a flight, right?
- 11:11Right, yes, for sure. So, yeah, it was definitely a a
- 11:17challenge and getting there and, you know, hurrying up, getting
- 11:20off the bus and, and all of that was interesting.
- 11:25Yeah, at least. I I can only imagine.
- 11:29Definitely memorable. That's not a bad thing 'cause
- 11:33that's what we're all about here tonight.
- 11:35Memories. Yes, yes.
- 11:39So tell me about what it was like during a basic training.
- 11:44Do you have any funny stories that you groom or call?
- 11:49Actually, I've gone through a a few funny stories recently, but
- 11:52the one that really stands out to me that I have had brought to
- 11:58my mind for some different reasons was I was what they
- 12:01called the study monitor. So it was my responsibility at
- 12:05that time. We had these big black zipper
- 12:08pouches that we had to March around with everywhere that
- 12:11actually had like binders of papers that we had to memorize
- 12:16the information of, right, Like so ranks and all, just
- 12:21everything, everything we needed to know was in these.
- 12:24And we, there, there is a written test.
- 12:26And so, and they, they still have a test today and stuff like
- 12:30that. Like it's not like I'm that
- 12:31ancient, but, but they, I, I had to go up and down the, the ranks
- 12:38and quiz my flight and my brother flight actually.
- 12:42And just going up and down and asking people questions.
- 12:46And I remember my TI yelling at me and like he wanted to make
- 12:51sure we had the best score and it was going to be my fault if
- 12:54we didn't. And just just having those, that
- 12:57pressure sort of like, I can't, how am I supposed to make sure
- 13:01that Johnny over here knows, you know, what rank a senior master
- 13:06Sergeant is and how many stripes they're supposed?
- 13:08To be right you. Know different things like that.
- 13:10So that was just looking back. I'm like that was so dumb.
- 13:17That was my job and that's not even a job that people have any
- 13:22longer. So that's not a thing.
- 13:24So it's it's. Which is a good thing, because
- 13:29it's hard enough to stay, you know, take responsibility for
- 13:33yourself, get alone, let alone. Yeah, but you're you are one
- 13:37team, so you got to figure it out together also, but.
- 13:40Exactly, Yeah. I would say the other funniest
- 13:43thing that happened pretty early on when I was at basic training,
- 13:48I have two other things. One was, I remember my TI
- 13:53yelling at me, what did you do, wake up 1 morning and decide you
- 13:57were going to join the United States Air Force?
- 13:59And I was like Sir, yes Sir. Actually like that is what
- 14:04happened. And here I am.
- 14:07Oh, goodness gracious, that's. Funny, I did actually just wake
- 14:11up 1 morning and decide I needed to get out of here and I'm going
- 14:15to join the Air Force. And within a month I was gone.
- 14:19So, so that is true. And then the other one was I
- 14:23didn't know that it could get cold in Texas.
- 14:27You know, Air Force basic training is in San Antonio, and
- 14:31we had freezing rain. And it happened to be on a day
- 14:34that I got to call home. And when when I went through
- 14:38basic training, the 321st Training Squadron was called
- 14:41Hotel Hell. It's no longer called that, but
- 14:45it was Hotel hell. And I remember calling my mom
- 14:47and I, I was crying and I was like, mom hell has officially
- 14:52frozen over. Like, I am there and there's ice
- 14:56everywhere. Yeah.
- 14:58So it was, those were my, like, funny, funny moments.
- 15:02Everything else was just get in, get stuff done, get through.
- 15:08And honestly, I, I think it's probably a miracle.
- 15:13I think a lot of people probably feel that way for, for different
- 15:16reasons, you know, that, that they made it through the
- 15:20training that they needed to get through.
- 15:22So. Right, right.
- 15:24I think too, before I forget, when you decided you wanted to
- 15:31join the military, I'm assuming you had the conversation with
- 15:36your mother. You did not.
- 15:39I did not I when I say I woke up, I literally woke up.
- 15:44I, I felt I can look back now and for me, I know that that was
- 15:50absolutely the Lord was speaking to me to say, get up, go and get
- 15:55out of here and this is what you're going to do and this is
- 15:58how you're going to do it. In that moment, I probably
- 16:01didn't feel that way. I was just like, I got to do
- 16:03something. So I did not have a
- 16:05conversation. I got up, I got dressed, I
- 16:07walked down the stairs and I said, I'm going to go talk to a
- 16:10recruiter today. And I walked out the door and
- 16:12left. That was that was it.
- 16:15There was no conversation before I went and talked to the
- 16:19recruiter and I completely signed up.
- 16:21I did all the paperwork, everything I needed to do.
- 16:23I, I mean, I was, you know, an adult when I signed.
- 16:26I didn't need anybody's permission.
- 16:28So, right, So no, there was no conversation.
- 16:32There was. None.
- 16:33When did so? When your mom found out?
- 16:37Yeah, when I came home, there was a conversation because I had
- 16:41actually done my testing and I qualified for EOD, explosive
- 16:48ordinance disposal. And so my I came home and my my
- 16:52dad was like, oh, my step dad was like, yeah, that's great.
- 16:54Glad you joined the Air Force. It'll be so great for you.
- 16:56What job did you pick? And I said EOD and he said, do
- 17:00you want to come home with all your fingers and toes?
- 17:03And I was like, well, yeah. And he said that's not the job
- 17:06for you. I was like.
- 17:08OK, but they were going to give me this?
- 17:11Great signing bonus and he's. Like that's.
- 17:14That's not the job for you. That's not what you need to be
- 17:16doing. And he, he's like, OK, here's a
- 17:18list of other jobs that would be, you know, that would be well
- 17:23suited to you. And so I went back to the
- 17:26recruiter and I was like, I don't think that's going to
- 17:28work. And I want to go into finance
- 17:31instead. And I'd really like to leave as
- 17:33soon as possible. So that's what I ended up doing.
- 17:37It's finance. Wow, and the fact that you
- 17:40actually got your choice is impressive.
- 17:43Yes. Yes, it is.
- 17:45Yeah, Very, very rare. I know.
- 17:50That happened. So the horror stories I've heard
- 17:53about not getting that first choice.
- 17:57So, so as far as the training went, did they have it broken
- 18:04down like, you know, the first week you'd do, you know,
- 18:09receiving, getting all your gear.
- 18:11The second week you'd, you'd do, I don't know, some, some kind of
- 18:15field training. The next week it'd be firearms.
- 18:18Or did did you have a favorite out of all of those?
- 18:23I actually love the firearms training.
- 18:26That's probably my favorite. I mean, even still to this day,
- 18:30I absolutely love, I love shooting.
- 18:33It is one of my favorite things to do.
- 18:35It's just such a great release, like a stress reliever.
- 18:38And my husband is actually a police officer.
- 18:42And we love to go in the backyard.
- 18:44We have a couple acres and we have a shooting range back
- 18:47there. And we love to go in the back
- 18:49and just have a little shooting competition and have to carry a
- 18:53gun and work, you know, for work every day.
- 18:54But I don't. And let's see who's better at
- 18:56it. So.
- 18:58That's awesome, That's amazing. Same.
- 19:01It's one of my, my favorite hobbies is, is to get out and,
- 19:06and shoot and, you know, just take out my stress on, on, you
- 19:14know, a piece of steel. Yes, exactly.
- 19:17It's lots of fun. It is all right.
- 19:20Well, in basic training, so you said you had, you know, trying
- 19:26calling home and hell, freezing over, which I can't.
- 19:29I get that. Were you outside of that time?
- 19:33Did you have an opportunity to to call home again or was it
- 19:38just had to wait till the end of your training?
- 19:41No. I'm I'm sure I did get a couple
- 19:44of phone calls home, but that's the most memorable one for me.
- 19:47I don't really remember, you know, those each, each phone
- 19:51call, I know I got a few letters and that kind of thing, but it
- 19:54wasn't, you know, it wasn't something that I really, I don't
- 20:00remember those except for that one conversation and maybe one
- 20:03of, you know, here's the information for graduation,
- 20:08which. Air Force graduation when I
- 20:11graduated, you know, 20 some years ago versus Air Force
- 20:15graduation today are two different, different
- 20:18experiences, so. Really.
- 20:20Yes, yeah, yes. So tell me what yours?
- 20:24Today of ours was very short and just the parade and, you know,
- 20:30basic kind of things like in dress Blues the whole time.
- 20:35And then I've recently, you know, within the last year or
- 20:38so, got to experience two different Air Force graduations
- 20:42and just seeing it's a 2 day event.
- 20:45Like it is an event. They're there.
- 20:47It's great because you get more time with your, your airmen and
- 20:50that kind of thing to be off base and have that liberty.
- 20:53But yeah, just, it's just different.
- 20:56And I, I love, I love the way they do it now.
- 20:59Honestly, like it, They've worked so hard, like to go
- 21:02through all of the training and just really getting that giving
- 21:06the families that experience both days is an.
- 21:10Awful. So yeah, I think that's great.
- 21:12That's wonderful. You get through your training
- 21:18and where do you go from there? Then I go to Keesler Air Force
- 21:25Base in Mississippi for training, for my job, for
- 21:30finance, so. OK, so I got to ask this
- 21:33question. Here is, you know, this Eastern
- 21:37girl from New York, Northeastern in in the Deep South.
- 21:45Yes. How did you feel there?
- 21:51I mean, the beauty of that is you're still in in tech school
- 21:56and so you're, you're really not experiencing really the Deep
- 22:00South necessarily. You know, I'm not, not that
- 22:03that's not something beautiful to experience.
- 22:05It is a great thing to experience, but for me at that
- 22:10time, that wasn't my experience. I didn't, I didn't know what I
- 22:13didn't know or didn't know really have anything other than
- 22:17that base experience and some, you know, some time off base
- 22:21with friends and that kind of thing.
- 22:22So that the heat was different. I can tell you that that was
- 22:28drastic change from, you know, below freezing temperatures in
- 22:32New York and switching that to Mississippi was drastically
- 22:39different, so drastic. Different.
- 22:43OK, I have to ask this question first before we get too far in.
- 22:48What was it like for the chow hall in with the Air Force?
- 22:55Well, I mean in basic training, not great, but I actually like I
- 23:00had to gain weight while I was there.
- 23:03And so I actually had to gain weight before they would even
- 23:07let me leave to go. Like I needed to put on some
- 23:10weight to go. So I I did that and then, you
- 23:15know, I had to gain weight. So I had to eat a lot and it was
- 23:17just so fast and I was not used to eating that way.
- 23:20And so I don't remember the food being great.
- 23:24I can tell you that there is nothing that's there's not a
- 23:27single thing that I ate in BMT that is memorable.
- 23:33I you know, that that little where the different branches
- 23:39talk about, you know, the air forces, the spoiled branch gets,
- 23:44you know, the lobster and all of that.
- 23:46So I was kind of curious how they how they served the
- 23:50recruits. During.
- 23:53Basic training. You just.
- 23:55Never know, never know. No, I will say I don't want to
- 24:00get too far ahead of ourselves either, but I did have one of my
- 24:03kids was there over the holidays.
- 24:06She was at Air Force basic training for Thanksgiving and
- 24:09Christmas last year. And so they did serve them a
- 24:13fantastic meal for Thanksgiving and let them call home.
- 24:18And by that I mean, actually the command staff came in and served
- 24:23the meal to the recruits, like the base commander kind of
- 24:27thing, like it was or the Wing Commander, I'm not sure exactly
- 24:30who. But it was, you know, really,
- 24:33really special for her to have that experience.
- 24:36So they did take care of them over the holidays, but I wasn't
- 24:40there over a holiday. So I don't know about that for
- 24:42me. That's fair.
- 24:44That that is fair. You OK?
- 24:47So you're in Mississippi and tell me what it was like.
- 24:51So finance, it was your MOS and had you ever, I mean, dealt with
- 24:59anything like that previously? So you're just like, I'm going
- 25:04into finance. Well, what my major in college
- 25:08was business. So I, I and I had taken some
- 25:12accounting classes and I really liked working with numbers.
- 25:16So, so I think that's why I was kind of steered in that
- 25:19direction. But no, I had never and I don't,
- 25:24I'm sure this is going to come as a shock to everybody
- 25:27listening, but the way the government handles finances is
- 25:30way different than the way people handle finances.
- 25:32So I know Talker. I know I I I have a hard time
- 25:40believing that nobody. Has a hard time believing that
- 25:44doesn't matter where you sit on the political spectrum,
- 25:47everybody believes that I. Know and so you're learning this
- 25:55you've got numbers you know you're you're good with numbers
- 25:59I am not and I know my faults right numbers are not my thing
- 26:04so thank goodness for calculators and computers and
- 26:10how long was the training that you had to take for for finance
- 26:14it's. About 11 weeks I think.
- 26:18That's a long time. Yeah, it's, I mean, I feel like
- 26:22it was about 11 weeks. It could have been a little bit
- 26:25less than that, maybe 9, I don't know.
- 26:28It wasn't it wasn't that long. I think my when my daughter just
- 26:31went through. She's also in finance, but my.
- 26:35Mother like daughter, I love it. Yeah, and I mean, it's actually
- 26:39kind of ironic that she actually went into the Air Force at the
- 26:42same rank that I left the Air Force doing the same job.
- 26:46So it's kind of, it's really an interesting, my ceiling was her
- 26:52floor kind of thing heart. And so that's kind of that's a
- 26:55special thing I feel in my mama's heart.
- 26:58So ANYWAYS, yeah, but yeah, I think hers was maybe a little
- 27:02bit less time than mine, but I want to say it was about 11
- 27:06weeks, so. Wow.
- 27:09And during this time, any funny stories you can recall?
- 27:14Probably not. That should be repeated and
- 27:16recorded. Nobody's listening.
- 27:18It's all good. No, I don't.
- 27:22I don't think. I mean, I did get, I got into a
- 27:24little bit of trouble while I was there, but I made it
- 27:27through, so it's fun. That's good.
- 27:30That's always good. You finish your training.
- 27:35Yeah. What?
- 27:36What happens for you next? Well, right before we finished
- 27:40training, I get my duty assignment and it was in Utah
- 27:46and I had no idea where Utah was.
- 27:48I did not. I was like, I don't even know
- 27:50where that is. So I literally had to get on a
- 27:54map because that was pre like I can't look it up on my phone
- 27:57'cause that wasn't a thing then. So I had to get out the map and
- 28:00look and see where I was actually going.
- 28:02And I was going to Hill Air Force Base in Utah.
- 28:05So yeah, that's that's what happened next.
- 28:08And then you get on on a plane again and go to your go to your
- 28:12base. So.
- 28:13And you get there. And of course, the scenery is
- 28:16completely different. Yeah, it's so different.
- 28:19So Utah was really definitely something that I did not
- 28:24appreciate the beauty of until after I left and came back to
- 28:29visit. That's what I would say.
- 28:35That's crazy. Yeah, I.
- 28:38Just didn't didn't appreciate it.
- 28:40I mean, I grew up in in the, in the woods and mountains and that
- 28:43kind of thing. And so I just don't think I
- 28:46appreciated the scenery and the differences of terrain that the
- 28:53state of Utah encompasses, honestly.
- 28:56Like it's, you know, you can be in the desert or you could be in
- 28:59the mountains skiing. Like it's so, so different.
- 29:03And you can do both of those things on the same day, you
- 29:06know? Exactly right, yeah.
- 29:08Yeah, yeah, it's just kind of crazy, but it's a beautiful,
- 29:11beautiful state, so yeah. And so you're there, you're
- 29:17starting. And what was it like for you
- 29:24your first day of being on the job, you know, doing the
- 29:31finances? Yeah.
- 29:33So there's a couple different aspects to finance and I there's
- 29:37like the customer service side of things and then there's more
- 29:40of the accounting and the business side of things.
- 29:42And so I was kind of thankful that I got put in the business
- 29:46side of things and not the customer service side of things.
- 29:51So that that, that first day and even, you know, that just that,
- 29:56that first, you know, week or two, really just kind of trying
- 30:02to figure out I'm an adult now and this isn't like a legit job.
- 30:09I have to show up and I have to do things like, you know, I'm
- 30:13expected to be a certain certain places at a certain time, but
- 30:16nobody's yelling at me and telling me when and where to be
- 30:19there, you know, that kind of thing.
- 30:20It's just this is what's expected of me to do the right
- 30:23thing. Yeah, and I bet you felt a sense
- 30:26of freedom. Yeah, yeah, a freedom I had
- 30:30never really had before, but also restricted at the same.
- 30:36Time, right, Right. You have your parameters, but
- 30:39definitely a freedom I had never really had before because I, I
- 30:44was a young, young adult and I had gone to college for a little
- 30:47bit. But I've always been the person
- 30:50who would help to look after my younger siblings and just things
- 30:54like that. And so it was a freedom where I
- 30:56only had me to worry about and I so, so far away from anybody
- 31:01else. I had no other responsibilities.
- 31:04So it was it was good and challenging and new to learn
- 31:08those things all at the same time.
- 31:10Right. I think that's great that you
- 31:12had that opportunity. How long were you there in Utah?
- 31:16I I was stationed there for about two years.
- 31:21And then in that time, shortly after I got there, I actually
- 31:26met my husband. And so he and I got married and
- 31:32he deployed a couple times to Iraq.
- 31:35And so within that time, I also got pregnant and decided I was
- 31:39going to get out of the Air Force because we were on the
- 31:43same deployment cycle. And what do you do with a baby
- 31:46when you know a girl from a small town in New York where
- 31:50he's a guy from a small town in Ohio and no family is around you
- 31:55and you're going to deploy together like that doesn't that
- 31:57doesn't make sense. That doesn't really work well.
- 32:00So I chose to to separate a little bit early and had our
- 32:06daughter and you know, was was able to actually go back to work
- 32:12sitting at the at the same desk doing the same job in civilian
- 32:16clothes instead. Oh.
- 32:17Wow. Yeah.
- 32:21So all right. And so you then get out of the
- 32:28Air Force. Tell me a little bit about any
- 32:34kind of resources that the Air Force provided you in how to
- 32:43reintegrate back into civilian life.
- 32:47You know, I, I think that we had a class that I had gone through
- 32:53kind of a, a debriefing, if you will, of, you know, this is,
- 32:59this is what you're going to experience and that kind of
- 33:01thing. And I'm, I'm sure that they gave
- 33:05me some papers with some information for resources on it,
- 33:10but I also was young and pregnant and my husband had just
- 33:17come back from 1 deployment and he was getting ready to go on
- 33:21another. And so I don't know that I
- 33:24focused as much on the resources at that time or paid attention
- 33:30to them as I probably should have That makes.
- 33:35Perfect sense, actually. Our minds when we're pregnant do
- 33:39not. Yeah.
- 33:41No, those brain cells are gone. They are.
- 33:45We're just trying to make it from day-to-day.
- 33:47Yes. Yes, absolutely.
- 33:50All right. And did you have a job already
- 33:53lined up when you got out? Not exactly because I was going
- 33:58to have a baby soon, but I had. I knew that they were going to
- 34:03have a couple of positions come open within the finance
- 34:06department for civilians. And my job towards the end of my
- 34:11time within the Air Force actually ended up being a
- 34:14twofold kind of thing I was doing.
- 34:17I was certifying orders, making sure that there was money for
- 34:23deployments, basically. So when at that time, when
- 34:27orders came down, they would end up at my desk and I would have
- 34:33to say, OK, we have the money for this many people to go and
- 34:37this is the line of accounting. It's going to go on that kind of
- 34:40thing. So I would have to stamp them.
- 34:43Fun fact, I actually signed my husband's first deployment
- 34:47orders before we were married. So that was that's what I was
- 34:50doing for. That is, that's pretty funny.
- 34:54Yeah, the, it's kind of neat to see my my name with his, you
- 35:00know, my maiden name on his deployment order.
- 35:02So it's kind of kind of interesting.
- 35:05And that was probably one of the most impactful things for me.
- 35:08We were dating at the time. And he, the Sergeant who always
- 35:12brought those orders over, he came and he would always just
- 35:16sit and chit chat with me while I certified things and that kind
- 35:19of thing. And one day he came over and he
- 35:20sat this big old thick folder on my desk and patted it and said,
- 35:25I'll be back for these tomorrow. And I was like, I have time
- 35:27right now. And he's like, Nope, you're
- 35:29going to. I need some time with those.
- 35:31And I was like, OK, so yeah. So I signed my husband's
- 35:37deployment orders and knew where he was going before he did.
- 35:40So. Yeah.
- 35:42So that was interesting, but. Yeah, that's crazy.
- 35:45I can imagine. Yeah.
- 35:46That you knew he was going to be deployed and exactly where that
- 35:52is. That's kind of a crazy story.
- 35:54Yeah, it's, it's interesting. So, so that was part of my job,
- 35:58that was a finance part of my job, but I was also the
- 36:01commanders that are squadron commanders, administrative
- 36:05assistant. So I was doing both roles at the
- 36:07same time. And so that was, you know,
- 36:12that's that's what I was doing. And I knew they were going to
- 36:14open up a few positions within finance.
- 36:16And so after I had my daughter, I was able and, and the
- 36:22commander came back from a deployment I had put in for a
- 36:25couple of the positions and I, I was able to go back.
- 36:29So I did kind of have a job lined up, but not officially
- 36:33because I still had to go through the same application
- 36:35process right as everyone, everyone else.
- 36:38So there were, you know, a few positions open and I got one of
- 36:42them, so. Nice, very nice.
- 36:45And how difficult was it being a mom and going back to work?
- 36:52Yeah. And having your spouse deployed.
- 36:57Yes, yeah, that was definitely challenging.
- 37:01I don't know that I was fully ready for that, but apparently
- 37:04the Lord thought I was because that's how life played out.
- 37:07So I definitely learned a lot about myself and got to grow and
- 37:16I'm grateful for the the family of fellow airmen that I had then
- 37:23as well as the civilians that worked within the finance
- 37:27department. Right before I left, there was
- 37:30another civilian there who is getting ready to retire.
- 37:34She was a sweet lady who is named Deanne.
- 37:37And she actually said by the time you get to go back to work,
- 37:42I'll be ready to do something. And I would love to watch your
- 37:45daughter. And so she like I had child care
- 37:49lined up and I would take her. It was like my daughter had, you
- 37:53know, a little grandma that she would go to grandma's house
- 37:55every day while I went to work. And so that was really the
- 37:59community and the family and the way that I hope that it's like
- 38:04this in all branches. But I do feel this for the Air
- 38:07Force specifically was you just support each other and you help
- 38:11each other figure it out. And, you know, especially a
- 38:15friend of mine had a, a baby exactly a month before me.
- 38:19So we were kind of going through those things together and just
- 38:22having that, you know, helping each other grow through those,
- 38:25right? Yeah, yeah, And you got to learn
- 38:28from hers. A.
- 38:30Little bit, a little bit. You're just, you're just a
- 38:32little bit ahead of me. So it's funny.
- 38:36Yeah. So yeah.
- 38:38And and so you go through that role where you're working in
- 38:42finance still as a civilian and what happens next for you?
- 38:50How long are you there for? And then what happens next?
- 38:53My husband deployed another time and then we were there probably,
- 38:59I mean we were there a total of our four years.
- 39:01His four year term ended and we decided that that was kind of
- 39:05enough for us. And so we decided to move back
- 39:11to Ohio where he was from. So that's that's what we did.
- 39:15And when I left, I did have an opportunity that I could have
- 39:20put in for a job at Wright Patt Air Force Base, but I chose not
- 39:24to. We kind of I wanted to be able
- 39:26to stay home with our daughter. So we were moving and, and that
- 39:33that's what I did when we got here.
- 39:34About a couple weeks after we got here, I found out I was
- 39:37pregnant with our son. And so I was like one, I'm
- 39:40really not going back to work right now.
- 39:42We'll just kind of play this out and see how it goes.
- 39:44So yeah. You know, and we, we had some, a
- 39:49lot of our relationship at that up to that point, you know, he
- 39:52had been deployed twice. So we had a lot of time apart
- 39:56and I had figured out how to be a mom without him there.
- 40:00And now I needed to figure out how we could be a family.
- 40:03And you know, that was a huge part of of why we decided to
- 40:08separate also from the Air Force.
- 40:10At that time was when he came back from his second deployment,
- 40:13our daughter didn't know who he was.
- 40:14And that's not the kind of dad that he wanted to be nor the
- 40:19kind of dad that I wanted for for our children.
- 40:22So it was important to us that we had present parenting.
- 40:26We were present parents. And that's not something we had
- 40:31when we were growing up, so it was important for us to give
- 40:34that to our kids. Right.
- 40:36And so, all right, so you have a second child.
- 40:40Yep, I have. A son?
- 40:42Yeah. Congratulations.
- 40:44And then what happens once he's born?
- 40:50Oh well, I don't know, it's a blur after that, no.
- 40:58It flies by it. Does fly by, but after that, I
- 41:01mean, I, I did, I spent a good amount of time being able to be
- 41:04a stay at home mom and with both of the kids.
- 41:07And my husband was going, he, he became a corrections officer and
- 41:12was going through the police Academy and became a police
- 41:14officer. And so we, you know, we went
- 41:18from a point of life where a season felt like he was, he
- 41:23would deploy for chunks of time at, you know, for a good chunk
- 41:26of time. And then sometimes being a
- 41:30police officer's wife, sometimes you feel like you're sending
- 41:32your husband out to a deployment every day, you know, and so it's
- 41:36just a different, different kind of danger and a different kind
- 41:40of stuff that they deal with. And I feel like I do feel like
- 41:44my time in the Air Force helped me to develop some resiliency
- 41:51that's necessary for having a husband who's a police officer
- 41:57who is, you know, a Iraqi war veteran.
- 42:01He's got things that he deals with from that and just the job
- 42:07of being police officer. And now I have two kids who are
- 42:10also in the Air Force. So I think that my time taught
- 42:14me a lot of things about resiliency and the strength and
- 42:19the understanding that's required to love and support
- 42:23people in those career fields. I think that's wonderful.
- 42:28And to be able to support the people, the people, excuse me,
- 42:31the people who support those people, you know, just even even
- 42:36having our kids go through basic training, both of them went
- 42:38through basic training in the same year.
- 42:41I back-to-back, I had kids. Dad had to.
- 42:45I couldn't have done it. That was.
- 42:47That was a challenge. It was, it was rough, so.
- 42:51Oh my gosh, and basic training for them now is how long?
- 42:55That is 7 weeks, 8 weeks, I don't remember.
- 43:00That sounds so bad. It was just like literally last
- 43:02year. But I want to say it's 8 weeks
- 43:05or just a little less. I think it's 7 1/2, but but
- 43:09yeah, so back-to-back pretty much one graduated, we went to
- 43:13his graduation and then just shortly after that, within two
- 43:17months, the next one was going to basic training.
- 43:22So. Wow, as a mom, right, that's
- 43:27that I can't speak for dads. I don't want to speak for dads,
- 43:31but I know as a Marine mom that you know, just not being able to
- 43:38and there in the Marines, they don't get to call home, right.
- 43:43You, you're lucky if they write, I think you, you will get one
- 43:49like they will make you write one home.
- 43:53But you know, I mean, sometimes you, you'd get a letter,
- 43:58sometimes you wouldn't get a letter.
- 43:59It just would depend. Heck, I didn't even get the
- 44:02actual phone call to say that they made it there 'cause he was
- 44:06at he was at A at a booth, little phone booth that wasn't
- 44:10hooked up. Oh.
- 44:13And so he'd hold it up to his ear.
- 44:15He'd dial the number and not even a dial tone.
- 44:19And, you know, and he'd wait and he'd wait.
- 44:21And then, you know, enough time that he thought he should wait.
- 44:25And then he'd hang it up and he'd say, you know, this recruit
- 44:28was unable to get in contact with anybody.
- 44:31Try again. OK.
- 44:33Oh, my God. So that's funny.
- 44:39And all I could tell myself as a mother is no news is good news.
- 44:44No news is. Good news is good news.
- 44:47Yeah, but even still, you know, I mean, I came this close from
- 44:50calling the recruiter's office to check and see did he actually
- 44:53make it? I mean, was he on the bus?
- 44:55We. Actually sent him off or not
- 44:58yeah right. Yeah, yeah.
- 45:00So it's kudos too different now they call home with their own
- 45:03cell phones. At least for the Air Force,
- 45:05they. Turn their the Marines.
- 45:06They still cannot have them. They don't get to have them
- 45:10except for that one thing. They can only make a phone call,
- 45:14that is. That is it.
- 45:15So nothing. OK.
- 45:17All right. Text message, no FaceTime, no
- 45:21anything of like that. It was just just a phone call,
- 45:25so. And is it as fast as as you see
- 45:28on YouTube, this is, you know, recruit so and so blah, blah,
- 45:32blah. I've made it to this like that,
- 45:34OK. And very scripted and and I was
- 45:37like, oh, OK, well, good luck to you.
- 45:40I'll be praying for you. Love you.
- 45:45So, so how did you go from your your having your second child
- 45:54and then going back? Did you go right back to work
- 45:58with them or did you start your own business?
- 46:03So I, I think over the years I've done a lot of things I, but
- 46:06primarily I was a stay at home mom, but I did dabble in some
- 46:11direct sales business that got us in a whole lot of debt.
- 46:16I made some really bad financial choices and I mean, we together
- 46:22because even though I was in finance within the Air Force,
- 46:26like I said earlier, government finance and people finance are
- 46:29two different things. So, you know, it's just I didn't
- 46:33really, I never really learned how to handle money in a good
- 46:38healthy way. So I grew up, you know, with a
- 46:41single mom and we spent everything that came in.
- 46:45My husband, on the other hand, grew up with a single mom and
- 46:48she is very frugal and very diligent about saving money and
- 46:52you know, and that kind of thing.
- 46:54And so it's too different worlds and trying to to blend those
- 46:58things and figure out what we do with money and made a whole lot
- 47:02of bad decisions with money and got into quite a bit of debt.
- 47:07And so we spent some time doing odd jobs for myself.
- 47:11My husband always had a, a main, you know, job, like, he was
- 47:16always the primary breadwinner for our family.
- 47:20But I would do odd, odd things, but not odd, like weird, just
- 47:26odd jobs. Like I babysat for other people,
- 47:29you know, just, I would, I grew produce and I sold it.
- 47:34I've, you know, canned Pickles and salsa and sold those things
- 47:38and just little things here or there to, to make some extra
- 47:43money to be able to pay off the debt that we had incurred.
- 47:47And yeah, that's, that's was really what I did over the
- 47:51years. But really my, my main focus was
- 47:54always in doing some ministry and then also taking care of our
- 47:59kids and raising them in a good solid home and giving them a
- 48:04place that they could come to and feel safe.
- 48:07And just just raising them how we felt like they needed to be
- 48:12raised. And not letting somebody else do
- 48:14that for us was important to to us and how we wanted to have our
- 48:18family so. Yeah.
- 48:21Well, and that is important and I'm glad that you had that
- 48:23opportunity to do that. Yeah, I'm very fortunate and
- 48:26very blessed that I that I did get to have that opportunity.
- 48:30So I don't take that for granted.
- 48:31So. So tell me how you became then a
- 48:34financial coach? Because I made a whole lot of
- 48:36bad decisions with money. That's really what it boils down
- 48:42to in a nutshell. But we, we did a whole lot of
- 48:45dumb things with money one time and we dug ourselves out of
- 48:48debt. And you know, then we didn't
- 48:52learn our lesson. And so we like tripled the
- 48:55amount of debt we were in and did it all over.
- 48:57And, and none of it even included a mortgage.
- 49:00It was house and a travel trailer or not house, a car and
- 49:04a truck and a travel trailer and this and that and the other
- 49:07thing. And so we just did a whole lot
- 49:09of normal dumb things as well. So many, so many people do.
- 49:15And it just. Exactly.
- 49:17It became a point for us where it was no longer OK to be living
- 49:22like that. That's not how we wanted to
- 49:23live. And so the second time, you
- 49:26know, by the grace of God, we got out of debt again.
- 49:29We, we worked super, super hard to do that a second time.
- 49:32I was like, no, I'm not going to do this again.
- 49:34And I am going to help other people to get out of this hole.
- 49:40Because sometimes when you've gone through something, the best
- 49:42thing you can do is reach your hand down and pull the next
- 49:46person up, you know, and, and help somebody else to do that.
- 49:49And so that's, that's what I do. I started my own business doing
- 49:52financial coaching. I went through the training that
- 49:54I needed to to become a Ramsey certified financial coach.
- 49:59I'm sure there's a different way I'm supposed to actually say
- 50:01that, but I doubt that. You I won't do.
- 50:04Listening so no, you know, whatever I'm sure there's a
- 50:08there's a specific term I'm supposed to use and I don't
- 50:10remember what it is, but I did go through that training and now
- 50:15have kind of adapted some of the things because I do think that I
- 50:19find value in cutting back what you need to.
- 50:22But I also have found times where we really just need to
- 50:25also be able to live our lives and enjoy our life and not feel
- 50:30like we can only eat rice and beans, beans and rice kind of
- 50:33thing. Unless that's your jam, then go
- 50:35for it, but that's not mine. So you know, I think that that's
- 50:39important. So that's that's what I do.
- 50:41I love to be able to help other people and coach them through
- 50:45some things and and just walk alongside them.
- 50:48It's really an and a privilege to be able to walk through that
- 50:52with somebody else and and offer that guidance.
- 50:56I that's wonderful. Now is this a a nonprofit or a
- 50:59for profit business? No, it is a for profit business.
- 51:02So I'm not not done the paperwork to become a nonprofit.
- 51:06I don't know that that's something that I really I want
- 51:09to do, but I do offer a free strategy session for people.
- 51:15Like it's not, you know, everything isn't paid.
- 51:17Like there are some free resources and that kind of
- 51:19thing. And so just that private
- 51:22one-on-one time with me regularly, you know, is is a
- 51:29paid writing. So yeah.
- 51:33And if somebody were interested in retaining your services,
- 51:39where's the best place for them to go?
- 51:42Yeah, they can visit my website, tianalambert.com it there,
- 51:47there's lots of information on there and there is a link to
- 51:52even book that free strategy session.
- 51:54So I do typically work with primarily women and couples.
- 51:59I don't generally work with men by themselves, such as not I
- 52:03can, but I prefer not to because it's just not a, not a situation
- 52:08I really enjoy being, to be perfectly honest.
- 52:12Like, no, that's perfectly fine. But I, I don't mind working with
- 52:16couples. I really love working with
- 52:17couples, honestly, because there's a lot of different
- 52:20dynamics to work through and figuring out who's the spender,
- 52:24who's the saver, who's the, you know, doing, doing different
- 52:28things and in the relational aspect of that.
- 52:30But I don't primarily work with, I don't work with men on their
- 52:34own kind of thing. Yeah, I was going to try and
- 52:38bring it up, but for some reason it's saying that it can't OK,
- 52:44let me it said it can't be reached.
- 52:47It took too long to respond. So I don't know if the Internet
- 52:51is just freaking out. I have no idea.
- 52:53I our connection is great, but I know in the chats at the
- 52:57beginning they there was some buffering and such.
- 53:00So OK, who knows? I know the bill was paid so.
- 53:06Let's see, I put it in the the chat.
- 53:09I don't know if you can see it or not, but.
- 53:11Let's see if it pops. There we go.
- 53:13OK, And I'm going to go ahead and share that so that everybody
- 53:17can see it. OK, let's see.
- 53:27There we go. OK, So if somebody is interested
- 53:35in retaining your services, they can go here and I'm just split
- 53:41my screen so I can see what I'm doing here.
- 53:44And so it's a six week coach. Yeah, I have a group coaching
- 53:51program that starts again in October.
- 53:55And then if you Scroll down just a little bit there, there's a
- 53:58little bit more, a little bit further, there's a little bit
- 54:03about me you can actually read. Like I wrote a couple of blog
- 54:07posts on there about our financial story and just some of
- 54:11the things we've been through. But right there where it says
- 54:14free real life money strategy session, they could book a free
- 54:17session with me right there. It's like a 30 to 45 minute
- 54:20session. We'll talk through what's going
- 54:22on with their money and I'll offer some practical tips and
- 54:26things like that that I would do if I were in their shoes and
- 54:29they can, you know, decide if they want to work with me
- 54:33further. But there's no hard sales pitch
- 54:35coming Like it's, it's just like that basically what I just said.
- 54:38If you want to work with me further, here's the options.
- 54:41And if not, that's OK. I hope you you found value in
- 54:45our time together. So.
- 54:46Wow, that's wonderful. And so before we get to to
- 54:54wrapping things up, if there's anybody that's in the chats who
- 54:57has any questions for Tiana, go ahead please and get those put
- 55:01out there. Now let's see.
- 55:07I will offer a slight disclaimer, I I am not a
- 55:10financial advisor or financial planner, so I'm not doing any
- 55:15investing. I don't sell any insurance
- 55:17products, nothing like that. It's just coaching and getting
- 55:21people through whatever they're dealing with and giving them
- 55:24somebody to ask questions to who's a real person and not
- 55:28ChatGPT. Always A+.
- 55:35So all right, let's see. It's so you can always get your
- 55:43name out there more by doing the Misses USA contest.
- 55:48I think I'll pass. Thank you.
- 55:51I'll pass on that. OK.
- 55:55So yeah, go ahead and get your your questions in the chats for
- 56:00Tiana. And then again, make sure if you
- 56:03haven't already, hit that subscribe button and then the
- 56:10notification bell as well. Tell me about so your kids, when
- 56:19they decided that they wanted to join, is it something that you
- 56:23as a family talked about in advance or was it something that
- 56:27they came to you and said, I want to do this?
- 56:31I think for our son, we always knew like that was the route he
- 56:36was going to go. He, you know, did some like went
- 56:41to a career technology Center for criminal justice and, and
- 56:46that kind of thing. And we like school is just not
- 56:49his favorite thing. And so we knew that that was the
- 56:52avenue he wanted to go. And so those conversations were
- 56:57happening for years with him, which branch.
- 57:00And in fact, when as soon as he turned, I think it's like 16
- 57:03that could he could sign his delayed entry paperwork.
- 57:06He was like, when can we go to the recruiter?
- 57:09Like, I am ready to do this. And so I was like, I'm not ready
- 57:12for you to do this. But we did finally go and do
- 57:16that. And so that's the route he went.
- 57:18My daughter was a little bit more of a surprise, but it was
- 57:22still the, you know, probably late, mid to late of her junior
- 57:27year. And we were having those
- 57:28conversations. And she had actually started out
- 57:31in ROTC and her program changed. And so she ended up deciding she
- 57:38would go into the National Guard instead.
- 57:41And so that's, that's what she did.
- 57:44And it was it's, it's different sitting on the side of the mom
- 57:50than it is the side of the Airman, for sure.
- 57:52Just thinking of. Like, you know, man, at least
- 57:56I've already done these things. And so I I knew a little bit
- 58:00more what to expect and, and that kind of thing.
- 58:02But I don't know that anything really prepares you for that.
- 58:06But it's, it was helpful, I suppose.
- 58:09But yeah, it was just conversations we had.
- 58:11And I think she never wavered from Air Force.
- 58:14It was always Air Force. I think our son, his rebellion
- 58:17times was talking about doing the Marine Corps at one point.
- 58:21And I was like, that recruiter is going to have to get through
- 58:23your Mama. So I don't think that's going to
- 58:25happen, you know, But all, all branches are phenomenal and, you
- 58:32know, serve well. I've just got to make a little
- 58:35bit of fun at another branch. So there was no way he was going
- 58:38that route. I was like, no, it's Air Force
- 58:41or bust, buddy. That's great.
- 58:47You have this moment, this opportunity to speak to the
- 58:52younger generation of military. What words of wisdom do you have
- 59:00for them? I think I would start with
- 59:03speaking to somebody who's not decided to join yet.
- 59:07I would start with them and say it is the the best decision I
- 59:12ever made in my whole life. It has set me up and open doors
- 59:16and opportunities and given me built character within me and
- 59:24taught me lessons that I didn't know that I needed to learn.
- 59:27And I don't see people learning and developing skills outside of
- 59:32of military service. So I think that there's a pride
- 59:35that comes with that and just a sense of community and
- 59:41brotherhood or sisterhood or whatever that you don't get
- 59:45anywhere else. And so I would, I would highly
- 59:47encourage those considering to join those that are already in
- 59:52make it the be the best that you can be and make it the best that
- 59:58you can make out of it. It may not be the the location
- 1:00:01you want to be in right now. You may not be in the job you
- 1:00:04want to be in right now. You.
- 1:00:08But you have the ability to make it the best of any situation
- 1:00:13that you're in. And so I would definitely say
- 1:00:16that. And to those in, I would also
- 1:00:18say I'd be remiss if I didn't say get your finances in order.
- 1:00:23Like seriously, like you don't even have to have a conversation
- 1:00:27with me. But really make sure that you're
- 1:00:29investing, especially those young, young service members,
- 1:00:34make sure that you start out the gate taking some money out of
- 1:00:37your paycheck for the TSP. And if you can, open a Roth IRA
- 1:00:41and put some money away for that because time is your best friend
- 1:00:46when it comes to investing for your retirement.
- 1:00:48And it may feel like it's so far away, but it happens like that
- 1:00:55blink of an eye and and you're at the age that you can retire
- 1:00:59from, from service. And then you have the ability to
- 1:01:02choose if you've invested wisely whether you are going to have a
- 1:01:05second career or not, depending on what you have done
- 1:01:09financially. So those would be my biggest
- 1:01:11things that I would say. Yeah, that's that's some great
- 1:01:15advice. I know a lot of just from
- 1:01:21experience from mine, right, my children who are in the military
- 1:01:26and finance was not their thing. No, and it's.
- 1:01:30Not most of their thing. Right.
- 1:01:33I didn't want to, you know, generalize, but I could speak
- 1:01:37definitely to mine. And it's so important to have
- 1:01:42that get in the habit of watching those expenditures and
- 1:01:47saving some money. Nowadays, especially I can speak
- 1:01:52to my youngest Marine who he would order food in.
- 1:01:58So you had, you know, I mean, as it is, they're taking 400 and
- 1:02:02something dollars out a month just for the chow hall, whether
- 1:02:07you eat there or not. And he's ordering Uber eats or
- 1:02:13DoorDash for a pizza or Taco Bell or goodness knows what.
- 1:02:21And so he's putting out there seven hundred $800 a month,
- 1:02:28depending upon how how often you know he's doing this.
- 1:02:32And because it's not cheap, you know, but with between the
- 1:02:35delivery fees and such. So it to me it's it's like
- 1:02:40that's just basic and and I said I'm not good at numbers, but I
- 1:02:43am good with common sense. That was, yeah, that made no
- 1:02:48sense to me. No, it doesn't and it and I
- 1:02:51will. I don't also don't want to
- 1:02:52general generalize either too much, but I will say just in
- 1:02:57conversations that I've had with my kids and some, some of the
- 1:03:02other Airmen or other service branches of the service that are
- 1:03:06younger, they, they, those people do not have a grasp
- 1:03:12because they're also not taught. Like they're not taught how to
- 1:03:15manage money well. And the military doesn't teach
- 1:03:18you that either. No, it's not, It's not something
- 1:03:21that's taught and it should be and probably could be, but it's
- 1:03:25just not, that's not what they're great at.
- 1:03:27So I think that it's super important just to have a grasp
- 1:03:31on that. And, and you are absolutely
- 1:03:33right, DoorDash, Uber Eats, subscription services, doesn't
- 1:03:38matter if you're a young service member or, you know, in your 50s
- 1:03:43and a coaching client. Like it's people are paying so
- 1:03:47much for subscription services and it is wild.
- 1:03:51So it's, it's, it's stealing their retirement for sure.
- 1:03:55And their ability to even have money for a basic emergency of a
- 1:03:59flat tire. Yeah, that's that's the thing.
- 1:04:03I'm, you know, you sit there and you're like, OK, my water heater
- 1:04:07goes out. It's not just a couple $100,
- 1:04:10it's a couple thousand. Yes, it is, right.
- 1:04:13You've got to be. I mean, it's one thing to plan
- 1:04:17for new Windows, plan for things of that nature for a home, but
- 1:04:23it's those little incidentals that have a big impact on, you
- 1:04:29know, you got to be able to wash your clothes, clothes and wash
- 1:04:32your dishes. Some hot water comes in pretty
- 1:04:34darn handy, but the shower so. Yeah, and it is.
- 1:04:39It is a, you know, even $1000 starter kind of emergency fund
- 1:04:44almost isn't enough. You know.
- 1:04:47But it's a great place to start. It's better to have $1000 set
- 1:04:51aside in case something happens as opposed to having nothing and
- 1:04:55then, you know, you have to put it on a credit card or maybe you
- 1:04:58don't have credit cards because you have no credit and you
- 1:05:01can't, can't do anything like that.
- 1:05:02You know, you're really up a Creek.
- 1:05:04So I think that it's so important to, you know, find
- 1:05:09somebody that you feel like you could be mentored by to give you
- 1:05:14some good financial pointers. Like there's, there's great
- 1:05:16advice out there on YouTube on, you know, social media, on
- 1:05:21wherever podcasts, wherever you want to listen to things, but
- 1:05:25there's also some really, really bad advice.
- 1:05:27So make sure that you are finding somebody who's solid and
- 1:05:30has, you know, a good basis that they're they're teaching so.
- 1:05:38I think that's great. So Ron Wayne says thank you for
- 1:05:41your service, Tina, great story. Thank you.
- 1:05:44Jim says great story and resilience in your service, your
- 1:05:48life. Bravo, thank you.
- 1:05:50Jason says thank you for your service, ma'am.
- 1:05:54Thank you. And Jim says compounding
- 1:05:57interest does wonders. It's a miracle.
- 1:06:00That compounding interest, man, how that math works, it's
- 1:06:04amazing, yeah. He also says you could do a
- 1:06:06seminar for every branch of service, new recruits on
- 1:06:09financial planning for their future.
- 1:06:11At least the, you know, those highlights that we've briefly
- 1:06:14talked about that, you know, something to maybe put out
- 1:06:19there, expand the business a little bit, yes.
- 1:06:22Yes, absolutely, that's a great idea.
- 1:06:25Yeah. So Jim says rule of thumb back
- 1:06:27in the day was six months reserved for reserve of what
- 1:06:30your monthly living costs are. I can't even fathom that
- 1:06:37happening today with our youth. Yeah, I think that it's
- 1:06:42important to have like a good three to six month emergency
- 1:06:46fund of your basic living expenses.
- 1:06:48So that doesn't mean three to six months worth of your
- 1:06:51paycheck. That means what does it take for
- 1:06:53you to be able to survive if you don't have a paycheck.
- 1:06:56So, and I especially think that's important for people who
- 1:07:01are married, who have children, that kind of thing.
- 1:07:04You know, hopefully they have some sort of life insurance.
- 1:07:06I know service members do, but sometimes it takes a while for
- 1:07:10that stuff to come in. And what are you going to do to
- 1:07:11pay your bills if something happens to your spouse and so or
- 1:07:15you're laid off and you can't work because you know you're no
- 1:07:18longer in the service and you didn't save?
- 1:07:20Like there are so many variables, but that three to six
- 1:07:23month emergency fund is super important.
- 1:07:26And I will tell you that there are younger service members who
- 1:07:30are actually doing it. It's possible they do exist so.
- 1:07:35That warms my heart, yes. I'm not going to go on them
- 1:07:38completely, you know, for for that the younger generation, I
- 1:07:42don't want to be that person, but they do exist there.
- 1:07:45There are those that are making good financial choices and
- 1:07:48hopefully they can be a good light to others around them as
- 1:07:53well and a good example to others so.
- 1:07:55Yeah, I think that's great. Jason says.
- 1:07:58Great show. I think he meant to say, Tiana,
- 1:08:02you type a little fast, you know that?
- 1:08:03Yeah. Thank you again for service.
- 1:08:05Also, please tell your husband and kids the same as well.
- 1:08:08Thank you. And of course, oh.
- 1:08:12My gosh. Oh, Lambert outdoors.
- 1:08:16He's my favorite veteran. I bet, Jason says.
- 1:08:19Are you a little biased? He might.
- 1:08:21Be. So well, I think and Terry,
- 1:08:26Terry Lynch says thank you for sharing your story and your
- 1:08:29insight. It has been an absolute pleasure
- 1:08:32having you on. And if you want to hang tight
- 1:08:34for me for just just a few, we're going to go ahead and get
- 1:08:37things wrapped up. So thank you for having me.
- 1:08:41It's been my pleasure for everybody else.
- 1:08:43Please have a wonderful, wonderful rest of your week
- 1:08:47coming up. Join me next Sunday.
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