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Troy Perkins on Wearable Art, Jewelry Business, and Economic Insights · The Scene Projects

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Welcome into this exciting episode of Real Biz.
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I am your host, Bubba Starts.
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And with me today from Platinum nineteen eleven, Troy Perkins.
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Troy, welcome to the show.
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Hey.
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Great to be here.
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Thanks, Bubba, for having me.
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So excited to chat with you.
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Yeah.
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Well, I'm glad you could be here with me.
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I think what you do is pretty incredible.
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And, you know, I I know that it's been a long journey to get to where you are now.
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So I'd like to start off with just, giving you an opportunity.
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Give us a little bit of your backstory, and then we'll kinda pick it up from there.
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Man, I've now been in jewelry, which is wearable art, for the last twenty years.
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Quick run through.
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Grew up in in Phoenix, Scottsdale, Arizona.
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Got my business degree from Northern Arizona in three years.
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Did a year of fashion school in New York City at FIT.
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Saw the second tower come down in person.
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That was crazy.
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Moved to, UT in or Austin to start my MBA at UT, dropped out of that, moved to Newport Beach
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to be a beach bum, found a bunch of jobs.
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One of them, was a high end training job where I trained, professional athletes, wives, and
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other rich people.
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One lady there was a jeweler, kept working for her company.
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It was called Jude Francis.
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Two women, worked there six and a half years.
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A family friend then taught me the estate business.
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And at first, I I was reluctant who would sell old jewelry.
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Then once I learned it, I fell in love.
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And, so I've been doing that about fifteen years.
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Did take a job in there with a big dealer in town, but I've been back on my own the last six
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and a half years.
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And God's blessed me with so many things.
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I I work really hard.
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I've got a wife and two kids, a wife of twenty years, a 15 and 11 year old.
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So just really god first, family second, and then work.
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And I call, you know, work is play because I, I always enjoy what I'm doing, and I I get to do
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what I want as well.
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So
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Yeah.
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Your job isn't, like, the most awful thing to have to go to.
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You know, as a former beach bum myself, I was in Venice Beach, you know, twenty some odd
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years ago busking, with my guitar, to babes in bikinis and the sun in the sand.
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It's a good life, but it doesn't pay the bills.
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So, really, I I love what you said off the top there.
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Right?
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Wearable art.
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And I think that gets glossed over in the jewelry business and and a lot with, you know,
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especially with gold and silver prices going through the roof now that, you know, it it is
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an investment for some.
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Right?
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But it's also art, and it it is also heirlooms.
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And I think that's something we touched on in our discovery call as well as these things that
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are passed down from generation to generation.
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And I know from personal experience, my in laws, you know, my mother-in-law, her father
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loved gold.
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And he always had gold rings and gold watches and things on, and these were coveted items
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when it came time you know, when they passed away and and those came down.
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Not for the value necessarily, but because it was a piece of their father and something that
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was very memorable, to them.
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So I loved a few things you touched on there.
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I would love off the top for you to just kind of talk about the difference working in jewelry
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as working for someone like a dealer and doing it on your own.
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I mean, look.
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I've in my blood is entrepreneurship.
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So I've been meant to do on my own.
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I did it on my own.
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Yeah.
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When when you work for somebody, I mean, look.
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That paycheck is nice.
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That paycheck is addicting too because when you go out on your own, there is no like, you are
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your paycheck.
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So it definitely is hard, and most people are afraid to not have that paycheck.
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As far as working, I mean, at the end of the day, you're someone's servant.
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And, look, bosses can be great.
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So I strive to be a great boss.
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I don't micromanage.
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I just say, hey.
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Here's the task.
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Get it done.
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I really don't care how.
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But if you're not doing it right and and maybe, look, I have some I I have a couple managers
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where I put my foot down in a couple areas.
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But at the end the day, I let that roll.
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Advice to employees then show up five minutes early, leave five minutes late.
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It doesn't take a lot.
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You know, learn your job so well and then ask to help out in someone else's job.
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So I just think as an employee, you have the opportunity to learn somebody else's business
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while you're getting paid.
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So there are a lot of positives to getting jobs.
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I've had so many jobs, and I've learned so much in every different area from I set up blow up
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bouncy houses.
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I've been a a caddy.
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I've I've been a janitor because because I made, like, big money.
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I mean and so you name it.
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I've literally done it.
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But then working for yourself, I mean, the sky's the limit.
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It's what you want it to be.
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So, I mean, I'll I'll I'll I'll work days on end and make no money.
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And then my jewelry sits, and I can make a bunch of money while I'm sitting on the beach
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with family on spring break.
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So, that's where entrepreneurship, depending on your business, you you get all the risk, but
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you also get all the reward.
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And you get your time as your time and not someone else's.
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You know, a big big issue that I had, especially working in the factory as a welder,
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was, you know, them coming up to me on Thursday and be like, cool.
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We're working a mandatory Saturday because we're behind in this area or that.
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And I was like, but I'm not I'm not behind.
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Like, I did my job this week, and my kids got a ball game on Saturday.
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And they're like, cool.
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Well, you know, you're gonna come in on Saturday or you're gonna take, you know, a a
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disciplinary point.
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And I was like, you can just give me the point right now because I ain't coming.
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Like, my kids come before this job every single day of the week.
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Right?
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So I I I don't know who you are and who other who else you deal with.
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But, yeah, if it means I get fired because I was at my kid's ballgame, then so be it, man.
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I would not give it up on you.
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That's I mean, that's factory work.
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Right?
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That and and that's what, you know, here in the community that we live, it's not in our town,
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but, you know, the the town 30 miles away.
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It's all manufacturing jobs.
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And to just kinda see that world for me, because I had never really entered the
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workforce.
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I was a rock star, Troy.
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I was I was out and, you know, playing music and, you know, other other things that led me
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down some different paths, but that, I hadn't really ever worked that regular consistent job.
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And and I could see why, I never wanted to do it again.
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I've always had an entrepreneurial spirit as you do.
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My dad's owned his own business my entire life, a landscaping company, whether it was in the
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Chicago area or when we moved to South Dakota.
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You know, he worked for a few years for a log home company, but that was even, like, an
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ulterior motive was just to get the cheap logs and building so he could build this house that
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he wanted to.
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Right?
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So I I've always kinda just seen a different way of doing things.
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But, something you touched on there, the jobs that you have had and kind of the way that you
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talked about being a good employee, how has the jobs that you've had, say, a caddy helped
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informed you now as a salesman and as an entrepreneur, you know, owning your own
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business?
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Well, actually, I would say that I I'm a golf I grew up golfing.
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The caddy job was about the hardest job I ever had.
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So I don't I mean, like, because you gotta be paying it.
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Like, you you can't space out.
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Like, you're paying attention, watching the ball ahead of the people.
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It's, like, nonstop carrying the bag.
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And I I worked at a course, a private course when I was in college called, oh my gosh.
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I'm spacing on the on that.
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But it was very hilly course, forest something.
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But, anyway, like, we walk, like, five miles.
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So, anyway, I would say that's the hardest job.
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Other jobs, I think what really hit me is as I delve into other and now I've been in and I
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have a handful of other businesses, and I've delved in so many.
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Most of the owners and they don't take this wrong.
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Like, they're not that smart, or they don't have something that I don't have.
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Maybe let's just say it that way.
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Like, there's not some secret.
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The secret is hard work and taking action.
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I mean, I think that's it.
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A lot of people are caught up in inaction, and they're caught up with busyness.
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I mean, if you look at your screen time report, if you have an iPhone that comes every week and
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you see that you're spending eight hours a day on your phone and those aren't business hours,
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like, what are you doing with your life?
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So if you take action and you're passionate about something, you will be successful.
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And I think that's something that every successful person kind of repeats.
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If you've gotten there, it's it's not because you are necessarily the smartest person in the
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room.
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I I think there's a certain degree of intelligence that everyone has to have that
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makes it to a certain level, but intelligence can be learned.
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You can learn by being in the room, and you're only in the room if you show up every day.
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And for business owners, we don't really have a choice.
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And I think some people get into business thinking that it's going to be like their nine
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to five, and it's more like a five to nine or five to 12:30 at night and then wake up and do
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it again and again and again and again, you know, times maybe twenty years before you can
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actually come back and say, no.
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You know what?
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I'm gonna work ten hours a day, and then I I have to give my time to my family.
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And I think a lot of people miss on how much time it takes to become successful.
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Things do not happen overnight.
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No.
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Totally.
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I mean, someone may see me now and say, oh, look at you.
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You're you're just an overnight success.
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But then I it's hard for me to even say, man, I started this twenty twenty years ago in
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jewelry.
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Woah.
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Do I I don't feel that old.
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I feel so young at heart.
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So, I'd love to get in a little bit, you know, the nitty gritty of the jewelry business.
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Obviously, Obviously, with the increase in gold and silver prices over the last year has been
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absolutely incredible.
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Does it become harder for you to do your job because the prices have gone up, or is it, is
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it a little bit easier because people are looking to get into the market, say, in the
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last twelve months as they saw the trends?
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I'm in a unique spot being in secondhand jewelry, so I can make money kind of in a in a
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in a boom and in a bust.
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Because when thing when people when the economy is doing well, people are buying jewelry.
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When the economy is not going well, they're selling jewelry.
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So I can make the money on the buy.
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So it's really I I can work both sides.
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So with what you're saying and what's happened the last six months year, I've really made a
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living on the buy.
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There's so much gold and jewelry coming.
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I'm able to buy right and, and and kinda make make a margin there.
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Now it's a smaller margin, but it's still a margin and the volume is huge.
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So, I think that that's one part of your question.
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The other part is, hey.
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Are people not buying?
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Yeah.
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It this definitely weeds out the lower end of the market, and it's it kinda sucks because if
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you, say, have a $1,000 and you wanna buy your wife a piece of jewelry in gold, you don't get
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a lot.
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It's a chintzy little necklace, a smaller ring just because gold is so expensive.
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So this really puts it into the market people that have that have more money.
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So for me right now, the 5 to $30,000 pieces are what's selling more, versus because there's
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just not a lot for a thousand.
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Well, exactly.
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And I think that's something that gets overlooked, and I'm very glad that my wife and
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I have been married, now for three years and that that ring was purchased five years ago,
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because I I don't know if we could afford the same piece now just because of the increase in
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the precious metals.
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And I think that's maybe a part that gets overlooked in this because we look at gold
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prices on the stock market or or, you know, in the markets, you know, not necessarily stocks,
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but that we we see that as just like gold bars.
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Right?
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And but it is everything.
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It's everything that gold touches.
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It drives up the prices of technology because we forget how much gold is used inside of our
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our cell phones, our computers, our tablets.
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It is a it is it's more to our daily lives than I think most people would understand.
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No.
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That that's correct.
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Yeah.
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Goal I mean, gold is reason gold's important even in the technology side is it's it it has a
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wonderful conductivity, and it's very durable.
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So now in tech I know in in in tech in the technology side, they're able to make real thin
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layers, like, thin, and they coat things with gold.
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It still holds up, but it still, it adds up when they're making, you know, tens of
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thousands of electronic devices a day.
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It adds up.
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You're you're correct.
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They're using that more.
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And I'm hearing in the silver market, they're saying they need more and more for the
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batteries and all these chips.
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I don't know what the truth is, to be honest.
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And I feel like a lot of these prices are manipulated by the big banks.
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I do feel with the US dollar now, everyone's talking about it being shaky and a lot of other
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countries wanting to get off the US dollar.
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I think that's going to stop some of the manipulation, but but but the big banks still
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know how to dump the market so they can buy back in.
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So, again, I'm jumping to another topic, but we're riding this roller coaster.
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It it's it's kind of a crazy time.
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Well and and, obviously, your business is in the jewelry side of this, but everything in
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what you're talking about and maybe this other rabbit hole, it it is very not just parallel to
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yours.
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It may intersect and and interweave with what you're trying to do in your business very
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intricately and can have massive effects on your business.
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So while it's not an end all, be all the price of gold for you because, obviously, you're
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working with diamonds and these things as well inside of the jewelry, but it definitely has an
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effect on it.
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Yeah.
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No.
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I guess, yeah, we're was in my head.
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I didn't say I also buy and sell bullion.
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So I do a lot of gold trading in my business.
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So I have customers that wanna put money into silver or gold.
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In fact, I just had a deal with a 100, one ounce gold coins.
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So if you can do the math real quick in your head, that's $500,000 of gold.
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So those kind of deals come through.
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I need to buy it at a small you know, a little bit less where I can sell so I make a make make
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a few percentage points, but, you're solving a problem on both sides.
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Yeah.
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Incredible.
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And and I think most people that, you know, don't have amounts of money like that aren't
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looking to invest into those things, although maybe they should even on a smaller level
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because now you've seen that if you would have bought some gold coins a year ago, some one
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ounce gold coins a few years ago, you would have come up quite a bit.
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That would have been a solid investment.
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I had friends that were telling me to, and I was like, look.
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I don't have the $1,200 for an ounce of gold right now.
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So much less, you know, now when gold is what?
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I is it approaching 5 or over 5 now?
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Don't think It was it it hit 52 yesterday.
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It pulled back to $51.50 this morning.
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Look.
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I I I do not I am not someone that says, hey.
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You need to put money in gold.
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Look.
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Gold doesn't make money.
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It doesn't pay a dividend.
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It only when it goes up, you have to sell it to make that money.
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So I definitely think it's a good hedge.
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I do have a lot of my wealth in gold, but it's mainly in jewelry because I can make a better
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margin than just the gold going up.
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But, you know, I love to encourage people on business ways.
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Hey.
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If you have like, invest in yourself first.
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Once you have money, yeah, you should diversify with some of the gold.
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And look.
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Because I'm an expert in the gold and the jewelry market, I do help people move in and
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out of it.
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And just so you know, yeah, coming up with half $1,000,000 is hard for me too.
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Every day, I'm I'm hustling, trying to make things happen.
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And it's not like I I'm I'm I'm working that to turn it just just to make the deal happen.
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Yeah.
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I so I have a unique story, with gold myself.
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I actually grew up in, Leeds, South Dakota, where the Homestake Gold Mine is, the largest
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gold mine in the world now closed and has become the Sanford Fermi lab, where they're
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studying neutrinos.
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But, we had a very close relationship when gold bottomed out in the late nineties, and and
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kinda dropped.
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And because they were digging down into the ground over a mile in some cases with these
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shafts, that the cost of getting the gold out of the ground for what they were getting just
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wasn't, it wasn't profitable any longer.
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And, we do still have some gold mines out there in the Black Hills of South Dakota.
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Black Hills gold, being, something its own, sector.
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Right?
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It is gold, but includes a little bit of the copper.
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And so I've grown up around it.
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I've seen the effect that gold prices can have on a local economy from the mining
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manufacturing, you know, refinement side.
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Yeah.
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Totally.
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I I, you know, most, new mines, it's gambling.
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Existing mines, like what you're talking about, it's it's it's a straight business factor.
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So if it costs, like, for okay.
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If if if to pull one ounce of gold out, however that is, if it costs a thousand dollars an
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ounce to get it out, then gold has to be over 1,000 an ounce to for it to be viable.
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If it costs $4,800 an ounce, it wasn't viable till a few months ago.
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Now that it's over 5, now they can start producing again.
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So, and, of course, costs have gone up.
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Few fuel is down, but the cost of labor is up, equipment's up.
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And then when they find gold in the earth, it's rarely in big nuggets.
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A lot of times, it's like, if you have a one ton or 2,000 pounds of dirt, sometimes they're
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microscopic dots in the rock.
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They have to crush it all down, then extract it.
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So that that costs a lot more.
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So gold you know, when we see gold doesn't come in, like, a fist sized nugget.
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If it does, that's, like, crazy rare.
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Yeah.
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Well and we had a few big ones that came out of the hills in the, you know, late eighteen
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hundreds.
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You know, Deadwood's famous for, the Potato Creek Johnny Nugget that I think was about this
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big.
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I think it was a a four or five ouncer.
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Pretty I mean, it was massive.
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Right?
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And in the late eighteen hundreds, they were just panning in the creeks, but the open cut
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gold mine I mean, so it was all shafts inside of the hill, and then eventually it imploded, I
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think, in the nineteen seventies maybe.
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And then they just started just piling it all out, massive trucks that would drive down into
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this hole and drive back out.
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It's right in the middle of our town, Troy.
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If you ever come and visit South Dakota, I think you would get a kick out of going there
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and be like, I've probably touched gold that's come out of this mine.
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Yeah.
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But then half of the town half of the town was the cyanide treatment plant.
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Right?
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They would bring it out.
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They would crush it down.
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They would treat it with cyanide.
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All of the environmental factors that comes along with that spewing into, you know, as much
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as they try to clean it.
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But, yeah, I mean, it it completely changed the look, nat the natural look of this town.
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And when the mine left, it left just as much of a change because, when it left, all the
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buildings came down, and the hole in the ground is definitely still there.
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Wow.
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Yeah.
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I definitely I definitely wanna wanna check that out.
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I do I have bought and sold Black Hills Gold.
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When I see that, typically, it's 10 to 12 carat, and it's it's like a tricolor gold.
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So they do it in yellow, rose, and white.
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That's what I know of.
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Maybe there's a company, Black Rose Gold, who started making that with, like, a leaf or a
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leaf or organic design.
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And then speaking on the environmental side, I know now they use different methods where they
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don't have to use cyanide.
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They do different acid leasings, which are actually safer.
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But something to touch on what I do, I'm basically a recycler.
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So I put new life into jewelry.
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So I'm looking for these jewelry.
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I even if I can take an ugly piece and take half of it, maybe I scrap half, the other half,
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I make into a new piece.
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So that's something cool that we don't talk about.
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What I do is pretty green to really help pieces, not not only from the heirloom side,
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but also for the environment side.
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Like, I'm keeping new pieces alive where a lot of jewelers that I buy from, if I don't buy it,
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they're just gonna melt it down.
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So I'm out there searching, or those dealers know I'm gonna pay a premium, so packages are
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coming to me on a daily basis.
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Incredible.
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Well, yeah, I I didn't realize this about your business, but you're actually, creating the
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jewelry, the some of the jewelry that's available on your website as well.
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You know, I manufacturing's a real small part, but but maybe I I wouldn't call manufacturing,
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but I I, I create, like we we call it a marriage.
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I I fix pieces, or I'll make it sellable.
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Let's say it's a big brooch, which is a pin that nobody's gonna wear, and I'll make it into
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a pendant.
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You know?
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Or I just actually took a broach, and one of my customers said, hey.
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If that was a ring, I'll buy it.
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I'm like, done.
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So that's actually came back this morning, and it's now a ring, and she's gonna come pick that
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up later this week.
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So we take things.
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So it may sit for years as a pin, but now that it's a ring, it's gonna get on someone's hand
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and in their collection and put smiles on their face.
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Yeah.
21:49
That's incredible.
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And because of the pliability of gold, you have that that ability to, you know, go in, re I
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know.
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Is it re smelting it that that you would call to kinda melt it back down then?
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Well, I'm not doing that.
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Like, we're literally just taking one piece and then soldering another piece on it.
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Maybe we have to cut some other areas.
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But, yeah, what's great about fine jewelry is it's all repairable.
22:12
You know, I mean, within reason, obviously, gemstones, if you crack it in half, you can
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polish it, but now you got smaller stones.
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But most fine jewelry is all repairable.
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We can redo it.
22:23
So the reason I don't manufacture in general is you have all the labor costs, and people come
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to me for having that old jewelry or used piece because they're not paying for the labor.
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So they're saving that value.
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Well and because they mean something to them.
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Right?
22:41
These heirloom pieces that maybe came from a a great grandparent.
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Right?
22:45
They may be passed down for generations, and and they would like to wear it.
22:48
They would like it to be something instead of just sitting in a box maybe somewhere or in a
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case that they could turn it into something.
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I think that's a very unique position that you have.
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Albeit a small part of what you do, there's probably very few people that are willing to do
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that at all.
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Yeah.
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No.
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At the end of the day, a lot of jewelers, hey.
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They're looking to make a buck.
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So, look, if someone wants to manufacture, I will.
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I know other jewelers will.
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Where my just my experience of seeing so many pieces of jewelry, I can be straight up and
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honest with the person.
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Hey.
23:21
We can do that, or you know what?
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That's not gonna work.
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Your one question because I get this a lot.
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People take their old jewelry, and they wanna take the diamonds from that, melt that gold
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down, and use that gold to make one piece.
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Now at the end the day, you really can't do that because to melt one like, when gold gets
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melted, they do it, like, hundreds of ounces at a time.
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So to take your one little piece, it's just not cost effective.
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Now I've done it before.
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I told the customer, hey.
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It's gonna cost you a thousand dollars extra to do that.
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Most of time, they don't wanna do that.
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Some jewelers will just appease them.
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Oh, yeah.
23:56
Yeah.
23:57
We're taking your old gold.
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But if I just take their old gold too, the alloy mix, it may be it may not cast correctly
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or the it always creates issues.
24:07
So I just I Well, in
24:08
piece each individual piece is different in itself.
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We think of gold as just being gold, but like you said, the alloy are different.
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Some you know, the difference between ten, fourteen, 24 carats.
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Right?
24:20
You can't just mix it all together, and it's gonna be perfect.
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Well, yeah, if you okay.
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So 24 karat gold, everybody knows that.
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That's a 100% gold.
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Then you have 18 karat gold.
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Well, the fraction 18 out of 24 is 75% gold.
24:34
So there's 25% other alloys, and different jewelers use it different.
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Now 14 out of 24 is 58 and a half percent.
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10 out of 24 is, point four one one.
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So that other percentage is other metals, copper, nickel, palladium, different different
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metals.
24:51
So every jeweler, every manufacturer used a different alloy.
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So that's why gold can come in different colors.
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24 carat gold is always the same color.
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Other carats, it's lower.
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So does that if that helps explain a little bit about gold.
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Yeah.
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It's a nice little tidbit in there for people who don't know, you know, all their
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terminologies and and what what it meant.
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Right?
25:14
A lot of people know, you know, 24 carat gold just from Bruno Mars.
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Right?
25:19
So there's you know, we all we all get our education from different spaces.
25:23
Troy, what's your favorite part of your job?
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Is it the, you know, finding the heirloom pieces and dealing with people that are maybe,
25:31
you know, looking to reclaim a piece, or is it, you know, getting out, selling at I know you
25:36
were just at, you know, a a convention or or, you know, I I don't I forgot what you do.
25:40
A trade show rather.
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You know, is it the people part of it and the selling and and bringing it out and seeing
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people kind of in awe of the pieces that you have?
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What's your favorite part?
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Well, you know, I'd say the the the best and most exciting part is every day, I don't know
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what I'm gonna get.
25:58
Either a package comes in the mail or multiple.
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Someone comes in my office to sell, So you just don't know.
26:05
I get you know?
26:06
So I I get to see something new all the time.
26:08
Or I I pop into a dealer's office, and I you don't know what I'm gonna come across.
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So, like, finding something new every day like, literally, I'm buying every six days a week.
26:18
Usually, Sunday, not, but sometimes I get a text and I buy by text.
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So that's probably the most exciting.
26:25
If I had to flip flop it, the least exciting now is I've got 17 or 18 employees now, and so
26:31
there's every day, there's a fire.
26:33
In fact, this morning, I just one of my employees had a car accident, so I'm trying to
26:38
help him, as he's, you know, trying to get to work on on Lyft and Uber.
26:43
We're just I'm I'm giving him a little bump here to help him on that.
26:46
So that's just one example, but every day, that's that's probably the I wouldn't say I
26:51
don't enjoy it.
26:52
I I wanna help people, but it's just, like, it's just never ending the like, those
26:57
challenges.
26:57
So at least the excitement of seeing new pieces outweighs all the challenges.
27:03
Right.
27:04
The the problems that we forget about as a business grows, sure, you get to make more
27:08
money, but then you need more people.
27:10
And with more people becomes more problems, and you have to be you know, kinda solve those
27:15
problems as the boss.
27:16
It is what we do.
27:19
Troy, a thrilling conversation here with you.
27:22
I want you to go ahead and plug anything that you want on there.
27:24
We got the pod or the website scrolling across the bottom on here on the video version, but go
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ahead and plug the website where people can find you and where they can bring their gold
27:32
to.
27:33
Hey.
27:34
Thanks, Bubba.
27:35
Okay.
27:35
So platinum1911.com.
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I've got a couple thousand pieces up on the website.
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Beautiful pictures.
27:42
If you want if you're in the Phoenix area, you definitely need to schedule an appointment with
27:46
us.
27:46
You can find our contact there.
27:48
Yeah.
27:49
If you've got jewelry to sell, you can email me pictures.
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I'll be honest.
27:52
I can send you a label to send it in.
27:54
If we can agree on a price, I can pay you immediately whichever way you want, or I can
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mail it right back to you if we don't agree.
28:02
You can find me on Instagram at platinum dot nineteen eleven.
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That's probably a great place to connect.
28:08
I also have a slew of other businesses I'm working on right now.
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I'm in the car business.
28:14
So I do buy and sell NT classic cars.
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If you have that, you wanna toss my way.
28:19
And I'm I'm also in the gun business.
28:21
So, but platinum nineteen eleven is the most right now.
28:25
And later on, I'll share all the tech businesses I'm working on, but I appreciate
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you, Bubba.
28:31
About to have your own pawnshop show, Troy.
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I mean, yes.
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It it it could be there.
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You know, I I put off filming myself, but, I know a of that's TV too.
28:44
But, yeah.
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No.
28:46
There I we actually were in the works to do that with the last company I was at.
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We we had talked to TVs.
28:51
It just I knew they're gonna they paint everybody in the negative light, so no one
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Well, we won't.
28:58
Maybe we'll start our own show here with the scene projects, and we'll get Troy some more
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camera time because you're great on it, man.
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I appreciate you spending some time with me this morning, and I appreciate you being part
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of the scene.
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No.
29:11
Thank you, Bubba.
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Yeah, man.
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What you're doing is awesome.
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Keep out there.
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Work hard, man.
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You're doing it.
29:16
I don't have to tell you.
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But for your listeners who wonder, hey, man.
29:19
How's Bubba doing this?
29:20
He's putting the work in, and you're doing it, man.
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Great job.
29:24
I appreciate that, Troy.
29:26
Stick around.
29:27
I wanna chat to you after we're done here, on on the pod, and, we have some more talking to
29:32
do.
29:33
So thanks for being here today.
29:34
Thank you.
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