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The Sarah Kellen Congressional Transcript (Part 4) (6/13/26) · The Vault: The Epstein Files

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  Speaker 1: What's up everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
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  Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to pick up
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  where he left off with the Sarah Kelln conversation with Congress.
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  Question how did the abuse change over the years? Answer?
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  It was pretty consistent, It wasn't It had a period
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  of slight reprieve when he was in jail for a
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  short period of time and then he got out on
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  work release. It wasn't as bad in the years that
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  followed his when he got out of work release, but
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  it was still it still continued, just not to the
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  frequency as much as the last few years. Question when
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  was the first time he abused you? Answer? I don't
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  remember exactly what happened on the first time on the island.
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  The first time I met him, he gave me a
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  tour of the island and then he took me to
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  his bedroom, and I have a visual of him walking
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  up to me and starting to pull up my shirt,
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  but I don't know exactly what happened after that, mister Tolin.
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  And how old were you at the time? Kellen twenty two?
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  Brignac did miss mac Maxwell abuse you? Answer? Yes? Question
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  can you tell us more? Answer? We were on the island,
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  and it was in the bedroom, and I remember Glaine
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  just being on the bed naked, and I was not
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  expecting her to be there, and I was just very
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  surprised and extremely uncomfortable, and I just remember her kind
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  of like touching me and showing me how to touch
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  Jeffrey and what he liked. Question did anyone witness when
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  Maxwell would abuse you? Answer no, Jeffrey. Question who did
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  you tell about the abuse? Answer nobody until twenty nineteen.
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  Question who did you tell in twenty nineteen? Answer the SDNY,
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  my attorneys, my husband for the first time, other one
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  of my best friends. Question did anyone associated with mister
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  Epstein abuse you? Answer yes? Question who answer Frederick Focai,
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  also Philip Levine, Gulayne Obviously, Well, so much for Jeffrey
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  Epstein not trafficking to other people. Huh, Brignac. When did
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  Frederick Fokai be use you? Answer in Maui when he
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  asked me to come be in a hair show that
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  didn't exist, and then he had me staying in his
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  hotel room and I didn't have any money to get
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  my own room or to fly back, and he took
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  advantage of me that night. Question did mister Epstein facilitate
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  that abuse? Answer no, because then Frederick introduced me to
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  Jeffrey Epstein. Question did mister Epstein facilitate the abuse by
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  Philip Levine? Answer? I don't know what he knew. It
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  was my first or second year working for them. They
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  rented a house in Santrope one summer, and Philip was
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  really good friends with Golene and he came to stay
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  with us at the house, and Jeffrey and Golene had
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  gone to bed, and Philip and I were still love
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  and he he came up to me and he was like,
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  you know, must be so lonely for you working with them,
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  because you're with them all the time and you can't
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  have your own life, so you must be really lonely,
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  and he basically forced himself on me. Question did anyone
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  witness the abuse by a Frederick Focai or a Philip Levine? Answer? No?
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  Did you tell anyone? Answer no? Question do you believe
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  that mister Epstein knew about the abuse? Answer? I believe
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  he would have known about Frederick. Clearly, he was not
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  a Victoria's secret scout, and that's what they were posturing
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  him to be. Question did Frederick Focai abuse any others? Answer?
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  I don't know. Question did Philip Levine abuse any others? Answer?
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  I'm not sure. Question when did you first learn that
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  mister Epstein was not Victoria's Secret Scout? Answer? When I
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  went to his island, I learned he was a money manager.
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  Question were any others involved in the Victoria's Secret scheme? Answer? Well,
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  I had learned that one of his main clients was
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  Les Wexner, so it didn't seem too far fetched then
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  that they that he would have had some I mean,
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  he had like a big connection to them. I knew
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  that he was friends with Ed Razik, who was the
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  guy in charge of hiring all Victoria's Secret models, so
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  it kind of seemed to make sense that he could
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  have been a scout. Question when did you first learn
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  learn that he was not a scout? Answer? I don't
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  know exactly. I kind of felt that he had influence
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  in the arena. I know that someone that he knew
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  was in the Victoria's Secret catalog, and he was friendly
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  with like another Victoria's Secret model, so it wasn't necessarily
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  like just a scout, but he was mostly a money manager.
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  Mister Tolan are you aware of any other instance where
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  mister Epstein presented himself as a Victoria's secret scout. Miss Kellen,
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  I've read about that, but I don't recall who exactly
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  it was, Miss Brignac. Did anyone else abuse you? Miss Ham?
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  Can you clarify the time period, Miss Brignac, Did anyone
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  else abuse you during the time period you work for
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  mister Epstein? Answer? There was an incident related to Frederick.
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  I don't know that Jeffrey knew about it. Frederick introduced
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  me to Patrick de Marcier, a very famous fashion photographer,
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  and I went to his studio and he did photos
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  of me and then walked over to me with his
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  pants down. Question and who is the Marchier? Answer? He
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  is a very famous fashion photographer in all the vogues
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  and bazaars, and very well regarded in the fashion industry.
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  Mister Tolan, what year was that? Kellen? Probably two thousand
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  and two, Miss Brignac. Question Who's Philip Levine? Answer? Who
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  is he? He was a really good friend of Gallayne's.
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  He worked, he had a business, something to do with
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  cruise ships, and then later he became the mayor of
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  Miami Beach. Miss Ham, Sorry, to clarify, was he mayor
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  then Kellen? No? I think I don't know what company
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  was exactly, but I know it had something to do
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  with cruise ships. Mister Biggs, would you mind? I know
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  this is weird, but d Martier, can you spell that
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  last name for me? Kellen? I have to write it,
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  mister Biggs. Oh, here we go. How about Kellen? It's
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  French like Biggs jumps in D E M A R
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  C H E L I E R Kellen yep, Bigs. Okay,
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  that helps me. Thank you, Tolin. Just to go back
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  to Philip Levine, what year was that, Kellen? It would
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  have been two thousand and two or two thousand and three,
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  Miss Brignac. Was Les Wexner aware of the abuse? Answer?
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  I don't think so. Question. Can you describe your interactions
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  with Les Wexner? Answer? I met him very briefly. On
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  a few occasions. I went with Jeffrey to his office
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  in Ohio. I remember him and Less going into an
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  office privately, and I was wedding outside with his assistant,
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  and I think there was another worker there and we
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  were just talking and he was like, oh, you work
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  for Jeffrey. They're like, we're terrified of him, like he's
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  very scary. I was like, yeah, I know, but I didn't.
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  I wasn't in the room with them. And then there
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  was one time I remember being like it was outside
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  in the field. It was like a horse thing or
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  something like that, and I believe Abagail was there. And
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  then there was one time on his yacht Mayorca. They
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  docked in Majorca and we went onto the boat for
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  like an hour or so. Question is there anything else
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  you believe facilitated your abuse during the period of time
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  you work with mister Epstein? Answer? No other than the
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  ones I've already said. Question is there anyone who witnessed
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  the abuse of Jeffrey Epstein? Ham the abuse of miss
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  Kellen Brignac? Yes, Kellen Golaine. Sorry, I'm not sure if
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  I can answer the others. Ham. Can we go off
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  record for a second? Brignac, can you answer the question?
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  We can go off record, they come back on record.
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  Question by Brignac. So the question was is there anyone
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  who witnessed the abuse by mister Epstein? Answer? So there
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  was specifically three occasions with other people present. Let me
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  just preface that by saying that I also had my
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  like nude photographs of me displayed around the houses, So
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  anybody that would have been at the houses would have
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  seen that, all the staff members and the guests. So
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  there was an occasion with Glaine, and then there were
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  two other occasions with two other women, once on the
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  island and once in New York. Question can you tell
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  me about those instances? Answer? So the island was I
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  don't know how else to call them. Had a girlfriend
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  of his in his bedroom that he directed me how
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  to interact with her. Question did any of mister Epstein's
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  clients witness the abuse by mister Epstein? Answer not that
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  I'm aware of. Question which visitors would have seen the
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  nude photographs of you? Answer anyone. In the Paris apartment,
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  he had a massive, almost life sized nude photo of
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  me in the gym above the fireplace on the island.
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  In the gym, he had a massive, I don't know,
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  like eight foot photo of me naked. On his desk
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  at the ranch, he had a photo of me. Gleayne
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  blew up like a massive, probably three by four foot
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  photo of me mounted into a foam corps. I believe
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  that was on the island. He had a nude photo
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  of me in the gym in Palm Beach. So I
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  guess whoever, any visitors, any staff members. Question can you
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  recall any clients in mister Epstein that you witness seeing
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  the nude photographs? Answer? I don't remember a lot of
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  clients being at houses. I remember if they were at
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  the house, they probably mostly would have just been in
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  the common spaces that they may not have been, but
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  not where the photographs are. Within his dining room in
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  New York, that's where he usually had his meetings. I
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  don't remember a lot of clients visiting houses in general.
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  I do remember New York was probably the most often question.
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  You mentioned in your opening statement that you did not
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  feel like you could leave. Can you describe any threats
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  that were made towards you that made you feel that way?
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  Answer that I think is one like. I think the
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  most important thing to understand in all of this that
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  it wasn't so obvious and it wasn't so like in
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  your face. It was covert, behind closed doors, the grooming
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  process of you know, being targeted as a vulnerable person
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  and then him gaining your trust and then making you
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  dependent on him and making false promises to you. It
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  was like he kept you trapped and you know, making
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  him seem like he was your savior. And then you
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  saw the power and balance and the power dynamic of
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  him knowing everybody in the world. And I remember during
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  my employment talking to one of my friends and they
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  were like, Sarah, you work twenty four to seven, traveling
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  every two to three days. The amount of hours that
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  you work, you should be making two to three hundred
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  thousand a year. And I was like, yeah, but anybody
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  that could hire me or would hire me in that capacity,
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  like they're all friends with Jeffrey and he's not gonna
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  let us leave, Like he won't let me, he won't
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  let them hire me. So it was just knowing that
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  he really had full control over everything, and then just
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  the fear of not knowing where else to go and
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  not wanting to upset him. Mister Higgins, ma'am, thank you
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  for your calm demeanor. I'm sorry for what you have
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  suffered in your life. Kellen, thank you, Thank you, Higgins.
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  I hope that this time for disclosure and discussion can
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  bring you some peace. Kellen, thank you. I've been waiting
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  a long time to speak. Higgins. Did you have in
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  the course of your time and interactions with Epstein's cabal.
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  Did you have reason to suspect that very young children
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  were also being abused? Pre pubescent children. Did you have
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  any reason to suspect that, Kellen no Higgins, You never
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  saw that, Kellen no ham I think we don't, though,
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  as I mentioned at the beginning, want her to talk
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  about other victims. She can talk about her own experience
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  as a victim, but she's not prepared to talk about
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  other victims, mister Higgins. To the gentle Lady's point, I
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  was careful to phrase my question within her own assessment.
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  I will absolutely respect the parameters at this time on
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  the island. How much time did you spend on the
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  island Kellen quite a bit. That was his main residence, Higgins.
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  Did you have a chance to explore the island very much?
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  Kellen yes, Higgins. Would you be or did you have
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  any knowledge of any secret areas, secret rooms that might
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  be difficult to detect if you did not know that
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  they were there, Like doors that look like walls, things
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  like that, Kellen no Higgins. Okay, thank you for answering
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  those questions. They're helpful for us to dispel some of
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  some of the murmurs that are out there. My final question,
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  your assessment of Jeffrey Epstein, by all accounts was he
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  was a monster? Miss Kellyn Yes, Higgins, did you ever
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  see him as a type of monster that would commit suicide? Kellen? No,
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  I don't believe he did. Higgins. You said that very affirmatively.
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  Can you speak to your assessment there, Kellen. I believe
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  he was too much of a narcissist, that it was
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  too soon. It was just a month and from him
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  getting arrested, and I think that he I'm sure that
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  he thought he'd get off again. He was a coward.
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  I just don't see him going through something like that.
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  I feel like reading kind of like Michael Boden or
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  Boden's assessment of the markings on his neck, the broken
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  bones in his neck. I don't know how that would happen,
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  kind of leaning forward from a bedpost with sheets, none
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  of it. None of it made sense to me. And
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  just knowing them in general, don't leave it, Higgins. So
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  you believe he was murdered, kell and I do, Higgins.
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  Thank you for answering my questions, mister chairman. That's all
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  I have. All right, folks, We're gonna wrap up right here,
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  and in the next episode dealing with the topic, we're
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  gonna pick up where we left off. All the information
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  that goes with this episode can be found in the
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  description box.